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| 03:05 | * eythian | notes that prove t/Output_JSONStream.t relies on the order of a hash and will fail ~50% of the time. |
| 03:06 | eythian | mind you, I'm looking at an old version, maybe it's better now |
| 03:09 | ah yep, fixed in newer versions | |
| 03:10 | dcook | \o/ |
| 03:10 | Now if only I could figure out how to get this compiler to look in lib64 instead of lib... | |
| 03:11 | eythian: were you thinking of using chef or puppet? | |
| 03:19 | eythian | puppet yeah |
| 03:21 | dcook | How'd you choose puppet? |
| 03:21 | eythian | that's what we use internally here |
| 03:21 | dcook | Thought that might be it |
| 03:22 | I thought I heard Chef worked better with Amazon, so I've started looking at Chef.. | |
| 03:22 | eythian | yeah, I've heard that too. I've used puppet on amazon, it worked fine. |
| 03:23 | dcook | I like the look of Chef so far but might have to try switching to Puppet if I can't resolve this issue |
| 03:23 | Although the issue I think is with the options for gcc rather than Chef itself | |
| 03:23 | Damned nokogiri | |
| 03:24 | wizzyrea | is chef a rails app? |
| 03:24 | I know I could just go look that up. | |
| 03:24 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:24 | I'm not sure | |
| 03:24 | I don't think so | |
| 03:24 | eythian | puppet is a ruby app, though IIRC not rails |
| 03:24 | dcook | I used the install script they provide which used an rpm... and it looks like it's even embedded ruby within chef |
| 03:24 | Quite the self-contained little thing | |
| 03:25 | Well, at least it looks self-contained so far | |
| 03:25 | Didn't poke around the rpm at all | |
| 03:25 | wizzyrea | ah right ruby without rails |
| 03:25 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:25 | wizzyrea | the chef is off the tracks, look out. |
| 03:25 | dcook | Hmm, apparently it's Ruby and Erlang |
| 03:26 | wizzyrea | I don't think I've ever had a reasonable experience with a ruby app. |
| 03:26 | dcook | Mostly Ruby though I think |
| 03:26 | wizzyrea: Yeah, can't say I've really been keen on Ruby, but figured I'd use it just because Chef/Puppet use it | |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | well that's a reasonable thing. lots of people use puppet and chef, it must work alright |
| 03:27 | dcook | I was digging Python the other day, although the whole whitespace thing still annoys me |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | I've never tried to install it. |
| 03:27 | dcook | Chef/Puppet? |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | yeah |
| 03:27 | dcook | The Chef installer is pretty slick |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | we have people for that :P |
| 03:27 | dcook | :p |
| 03:27 | * dcook | wishes he had people for things |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | YOU ARE THE PEOPLE |
| 03:27 | dcook | Although it's fun being a jack of all trades I suppose |
| 03:27 | lol | |
| 03:27 | Yep | |
| 03:33 | Nope... no idea why this isn't working. | |
| 03:34 | I'm probably not understanding the gcc options, but it looks like it should be looking in both lib64 and lib | |
| 03:34 | But fails because it can't find them in lib because lib doesn't exist... | |
| 03:34 | Ran into this problem with Zebra ages ago, but we cheated for that one | |
| 03:34 | eythian | is /etc/ld.so.conf right? |
| 03:35 | dcook | I just saw that in my Google results :) |
| 03:35 | I'm guessing not | |
| 03:35 | Hmm | |
| 03:37 | I think it looks all right | |
| 03:37 | In hindsight, that's what you mentioned in the past when I had those Zebra problems, eythian | |
| 03:37 | eythian | it might be the build script is not taking it into proper consideration |
| 03:37 | dcook | That was my guess, but not sure how to figure that out yet |
| 03:38 | eythian | neither, that's around where my useful knowledge tends to end |
| 03:38 | I ought to learn autotools | |
| 03:38 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Errors..." (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/308 |
| 03:39 | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Gcc" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/309 | |
| 03:39 | dcook | It's a massive set of options |
| 03:39 | wizzyrea | is this a new server? |
| 03:39 | eythian | it's lookig in /opt, that not what I would expect, unless it's got everything in the package |
| 03:39 | dcook | eythian: yeah, it should have everything in the package |
| 03:39 | eythian | why don't you install the distro version? |
| 03:40 | dcook | eythian: that's probably my next step, but it should work on its own :/ |
| 03:40 | wizzyrea: Nope. It's been around a while. | |
| 03:40 | eythian | it should be the first step |
| 03:40 | because that way things tend to work | |
| 03:41 | dcook | Possibly |
| 03:41 | The package version of nokogiri has its own libxml2 and libxslt in it too though | |
| 03:41 | I wonder where.. | |
| 03:42 | wizzyrea | are you trying to gem install nokigiri? you might try it with a --use-system-libraries=true |
| 03:42 | dcook | I mean, I wonder how "gem install" works |
| 03:42 | wizzyrea: Yeah, I imagine that'll work | |
| 03:42 | As it won't have to compile them | |
| 03:42 | But it's... disturbing... that it's not working | |
| 03:43 | wizzyrea | could also be a ruby version mismatch |
| 03:43 | i've had lots of arguments with ruby. | |
| 03:43 | dcook | ruby version mismatch? |
| 03:43 | wizzyrea | they were not always civil. |
| 03:43 | dcook | I've only heard of that happening if you have multiple versions of ruby on your OS |
| 03:43 | wizzyrea | if you have 2.1, go back to 2.0, if you are using 2.0, go up to 2.1 |
| 03:43 | dcook | (not that I've heard lots) |
| 03:44 | wizzyrea | if you're doing things manually, ruby can (and does) get upset. |
| 03:44 | dcook | It's all automatic at the moment :/ |
| 03:44 | Which is why I'd be reluctant to switch versions | |
| 03:45 | wizzyrea | yeah fair enough |
| 03:45 | what OS? CentOS? | |
| 03:45 | dcook | OpenSuse :/ |
| 03:45 | Hmm, looks like there is a distro package for nokogiri | |
| 03:45 | Older version... possibly a less problematic version | |
| 03:46 | Not sure if it'll be high enough for Chef | |
| 03:46 | Well, the knife ec2 package | |
| 03:46 | Chef installed well enough | |
| 03:49 | Hmm, think I'm getting closer after analyzing those options.. | |
| 03:49 | While it's looking in lib64, it's trying to find those exact files in lib... | |
| 03:50 | And I have no idea what it's trying to do to them | |
| 04:23 | All right. Don't have time to waste on this. system libraries it is | |
| 04:29 | wizzyrea: --use-system-libraries did the trick | |
| 04:30 | I'm thinking there must be an issue with their build script... | |
| 04:32 | Mmm, I think I might've figured it out.. | |
| 04:37 | I think it's some zlib... although which package.. | |
| 04:37 | Already have zlib-devel... | |
| 04:37 | and zlib-devel-32bit | |
| 04:38 | Ah, maybe I'm wrong.. | |
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| 05:00 | dcook | eythian: Quoted from the nokogiri help forum: "The lib as part of the libxml2 and libxslt paths appears to be hard-coded in ext/nokogiri/extconf.rb in the nokogiri distribution" |
| 05:01 | Looks like CONFIG_SITE is used to prefer lib64 in most cases, but in nokogiri itself it's just hardcoded for lib | |
| 05:01 | So it'll never work | |
| 05:08 | liw | dcook, http://obnam.org/faq/private-key-for-backup/ -- obnam needs to decrypt things in the repository even just for backups |
| 05:09 | ddecka | should I ask my query? |
| 05:09 | dcook | liw: I figured that might be the case. I just wasn't sure if obnam stored the private key or if it just asked for it. |
| 05:09 | liw: Awesome that you're online though! I've been keen to chat about obnam :) | |
| 05:09 | ddecka: Sure! Help might vary depending on the question, but it's worth a shot | |
| 05:10 | ddecka | how can I connect or point directly to the server and start cataloguing? |
| 05:20 | dcook | As per another user's suggestion, disabled CONFIG_SITE, and nokogiri built correctly... |
| 05:21 | Yay multi-arch... | |
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| 05:36 | dcook | Huzzah, tool installed. Finally. |
| 05:36 | And with its own bundled libraries. | |
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| 07:02 | paxed | is it possible to prevent adding certain types of authorities, while allowing adding other types? |
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| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:38 | drojf | good morning #koha |
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| 07:57 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:57 | wahanui | what's up, alex_a |
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| 08:12 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:35 | cait | hi #koha |
| 08:41 | * magnuse | waves |
| 08:43 | magnuse | paxed: maybe delete the frameworks for the types you don't want? |
| 08:54 | mtj | hmm, that would be one way, yeah ^ |
| 08:54 | * mtj | waves to #koha |
| 08:55 | mtj | paxed, i read you ran out of memory when auth linking, some days ago.. |
| 08:55 | ..i was curious how much RAM your system had? | |
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| 09:21 | paxed | magnuse: but we do want. only admin should be able to add any auths, some other people should be able to add PERSO_NAMEs, but nothing else. |
| 09:22 | mtj: 8 Gb - this is just my laptop | |
| 09:23 | (because PERSO_NAMEs can be highly local, but eg. TOPIC_TERMs come from our national library) | |
| 10:03 | magnuse | paxed: ok, i don't think you can enforce that, then |
| 10:17 | ashimema | hmm.. |
| 10:21 | magnuse | hm? :-) |
| 10:54 | paxed | hmph. looks like it's imposible to rename the "Default" auth type via GUI. |
| 10:54 | +s | |
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| 12:10 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 12:10 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berolinastr., Berlin-Mitte, Berlin, Germany is 4.1°C (1:10 PM CET on December 09, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:17 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 12:17 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0°C (1:00 PM CET on December 09, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1029 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:17 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 12:17 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 1.0°C (1:00 PM CET on December 09, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). |
| 12:17 | magnuse | about 7 cm snow on the ground |
| 12:19 | drojf | your summer ended fast :D |
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| 12:31 | magnuse | drojf: yup |
| 12:31 | or it just took a break | |
| 12:31 | drojf | oh yes. it will definitely return at some point |
| 12:31 | liw | "We still have summer. It's just taking a winter holiday right now." |
| 12:32 | drojf | heh |
| 12:32 | exactly | |
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| 12:40 | cait | :) |
| 12:40 | our summer was not a workaholic this year | |
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| 12:42 | Joubu | ashimema: FYI: I have just commited in the contrib repo for the sandboxes (I don't know if you updated them automatically). |
| 12:42 | ashimema | cheers for the heads up Joubu |
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| 12:48 | TUBS | Hello |
| 12:48 | wahanui | bidet, TUBS |
| 12:48 | F0undation | Hello, Koha newbe here with a Q: I've got a bunch of MARC records in Dutch, and a bunch in French, with keywords in respective languages. If I search for 18th century books with query "18e eeuw" I also want the records with "18ieme siecle" returned. Anyone have any good pointers towards Koha installs for multilingual libraries? |
| 12:48 | drojf | hi TUBS |
| 12:48 | TUBS | I have a error message form a koha cronjob |
| 12:52 | "/etc/cron.daily/koha-common: <instance>: env: /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/automatic_renewals.pl: No Permission" | |
| 12:53 | so i changed the scripts permissions to "executible" | |
| 12:54 | now the scripr runs but gives error messages | |
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| 12:55 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:00 | drojf | TUBS: what kind of errors? |
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| 13:04 | TUBS | 18: /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/automatic_renewals.pl: =head1: not found |
| 13:04 | 20: /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/automatic_renewals.pl: automatic_renewals.pl: not found | |
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| 13:06 | TUBS | there are some more of that kin |
| 13:07 | cait | F0undation: that's a difficult one - we have lots of multi-langual libraries, but automatic translation/look up is a difficult problem |
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| 13:08 | cait | F0undation: normally i'd say that you should normalize the records to have the normlized publication year (numeric) in all of them - then the date range search would work nicely |
| 13:08 | TUBS: is that 3.18.0? | |
| 13:09 | drojf | library wifi :( |
| 13:09 | cait | TUBS: bug 13377 i think |
| 13:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13377 major, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , automatic_renewals.pl not marked executable |
| 13:09 | cait | you need to change the file permissions a bit - the bug report has a description |
| 13:11 | drojf | TUBS: and you need to add the first line ( http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]34083&action=diff ) |
| 13:11 | #!/usr/bin/perl | |
| 13:11 | cait | ah right |
| 13:12 | drojf: team work :) | |
| 13:12 | drojf | yay :) |
| 13:16 | F0undation | @cait, thanks! Well, it's not only for keywords that are about the time, but also general subject terms. We have them in multiple languages. Was thinking of whether I could do a pass through Google Translate, duplicating the keywords in several languages, before doing the actual query - but then I'd have to hack it into the search interface :p |
| 13:16 | huginn | F0undation: I suck |
| 13:17 | oleonard | Ignore huginn, F0undation, he's a bot who doesn't like it when you use the @ |
| 13:22 | ashimema | is it just me.. or should the commented sessionlog lines in Auth.pm really be bound to $debug |
| 13:25 | in fact.. that snippet should also be tenant aware :( | |
| 13:25 | to poitn the logs to a useful place. | |
| 13:28 | TUBS | huginn, drojf, @cait: thx very much. that did the trick |
| 13:28 | huginn | TUBS: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 13:28 | TUBS | RDA? |
| 13:28 | wahanui | well, RDA is my cataloguing standards are bad, and you should feel bad |
| 13:29 | drojf | TUBS: ignore huginn, it's a bot. and reacts to @ in a weird way :) |
| 13:29 | wahanui is a bot too ;) | |
| 13:30 | TUBS | thanx to the bots :) |
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| 13:54 | ashimema | anyone fancy a super simple signoff: bug 5511 |
| 13:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5511 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, ASSIGNED , Check for Change in Remote IP address for Session Security. Disable when remote ip address changes frequently. |
| 13:56 | TUBS | thx for the help and goodbye |
| 13:56 | drojf | bye TUBS |
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| 14:19 | Joubu | Who hosts translate.k-c.org? |
| 14:19 | It looks very sloooow | |
| 14:20 | jcamins | UNC, I think. |
| 14:20 | Joubu | 404 NOT FOUND 1m 17s |
| 14:20 | jcamins: ok thanks, I will sent an email to Tomas and Bernardo | |
| 14:21 | kivilahtio | Hi there! We need a improvement where in the circ/circulation.pl-view our librarians could see the enumchron of the Serial number the borrower has checkod out/reserved |
| 14:21 | jcamins | Joubu: Bernardo might be a better choice right now. ;) |
| 14:22 | kivilahtio | its is a bit hard in many vies to find the serial number whe there is no info on which enumeration is needed |
| 14:22 | Joubu | jcamins: yep! :) |
| 14:22 | kivilahtio | just curious if there is a bug already in Bugzilal for hits |
| 14:22 | oleonard | Is tcohen missing? |
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| 14:22 | kivilahtio | what a typo spree! |
| 14:23 | Joubu | oleonard: Tomas is dad since yesterday! |
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| 14:23 | cait | kivilahtio: not aware of one for circ |
| 14:23 | oleonard | Oh I hadn't heard! That's a good excuse :) |
| 14:23 | chris_n | glad to see everyone back today :-) |
| 14:23 | cait | an i think it was friday even |
| 14:24 | the dad thing :) and he hasn't been here since... I think | |
| 14:24 | Joubu | cait: yep |
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| 14:25 | kivilahtio | cait: thxxx |
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| 14:29 | cait | oleonard: i think there is a picture on facebook - cute baby |
| 14:29 | _222V | Has anyone noticed that Koha SIP server starts checked out items from 0? This means a user can get one more item out than allowed in the circulation rules! |
| 14:31 | cait | you should file a bug report for that i think |
| 14:32 | _222V | Will do. Was hoping someone might have a quick fix! |
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| 14:34 | Joubu | oleonard: bug 7741, does it make sense for you to have a "clear form" button in the h2 tag? |
| 14:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7741 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, Failed QA , Clear search terms in Z3950 search page |
| 14:36 | oleonard | I will look Joubu |
| 14:36 | Joubu | oleonard: Actually the author of the patch copied the structure of the select|clear all links |
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| 14:43 | oleonard | AJAX circ has pretty much upped the specs required for a machine running Koha for checkouts |
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| 15:20 | ashimema | oleonard.. really? |
| 15:20 | I didn't realise ajax for circ was that intensive.. | |
| 15:21 | oleonard | I find that Firefox and Chrome both freeze up when trying to process the circ page datatable |
| 15:21 | ashimema | wow.. |
| 15:21 | oleonard | The browser is unresponsive for a moment while the table loads. |
| 15:21 | mtompset | AJAX is eeeeeevil. Can me make Koha HTML2.0 compliant. ;) |
| 15:21 | ^me^we^ | |
| 15:22 | oleonard | I'm not a fan of this implementation of AJAX circ, but AJAX is not inherently evil. |
| 15:23 | ashimema | have you noticed a certain size of circ history that affects it? |
| 15:23 | oleonard | circ history, or number of current checkouts? |
| 15:23 | ashimema | your right.. it should only be current checkouts that should affect it. |
| 15:25 | oleonard | Well maybe it's more of a server specs issue... My slow VM slowing down the AJAX processing? |
| 15:26 | ashimema | hmmm.. shouldn't be.. |
| 15:26 | the ajax calls certainly shouldn't lock the rest of the browser.. that was kinda the point of making thme ajax | |
| 15:27 | so it's feeling like the datatables part is the factor that's kicking you.. after the actual ajax calls | |
| 15:27 | oleonard | I'll have to do more testing to recognize the pattern |
| 15:34 | ashimema | I can't replicate any slow down.. but I'm on a farily well equiped machine here :(.. |
| 15:34 | I tried with a user with 87 current checkouts.. | |
| 15:34 | anywho | |
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| 16:12 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:10 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 18:39 | ashimema | anyone about? |
| 18:40 | cait | me :) |
| 18:40 | do i count? | |
| 18:41 | ashimema | you do indeed.. |
| 18:41 | I'm having issues with our multi-tenant server.. | |
| 18:41 | cait | oh |
| 18:41 | * cait | turns into rubber duck mode |
| 18:41 | ashimema | FastMmap is getting shared between instances.. |
| 18:41 | and of course the tmp file gets givine one instance's permissions so locks all other instances out | |
| 18:42 | resulting in really nasty errors.. | |
| 18:42 | ever seen that? | |
| 18:42 | cait | yeah |
| 18:42 | ashimema | Open of share file /tmp/sharefile-koha-koha failed: Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/Cache/FastMmap.pm line 640. |
| 18:42 | cait | uninstall the package |
| 18:42 | is the only solution i have | |
| 18:42 | as long as the fastmmap thing is instaled, i kept running into this | |
| 18:42 | i had it happen on a normal installation without caching or anything configured - it just assumes if the package is around you want to do something with it i think | |
| 18:43 | uninstalling the fastmmap thing fixed it for me... but i admit it#s probably not the best solution | |
| 18:43 | ashimema | that wants to remove kha-common though :( |
| 18:43 | cait | bug 12800 |
| 18:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12800 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Can't access MARC bibliographic frameworks and other pages |
| 18:43 | cait | maybe you should leave a new comment there |
| 18:44 | i think it's misbehaving... and also a new bug | |
| 18:44 | ashimema | this is in 3.18 :( |
| 18:46 | cait | yeah, they improved it a ibt, but it was not a fix |
| 18:46 | i have kept running into it | |
| 18:46 | i think they only fixed the test | |
| 18:46 | ashimema | crap.. |
| 18:46 | rangi | yeah id file a bug for it, there needs to be a line in koha-conf |
| 18:46 | ashimema | this has destroyed a live server |
| 18:46 | rangi | which specifies where you should be caching |
| 18:46 | they shouldnt be all trying to use /tmp | |
| 18:46 | ashimema | indeed.. |
| 18:47 | any hints on how to get this working in a hurry :( | |
| 18:47 | rangi | yep |
| 18:47 | ashimema | I can't uninstall fastmmap as it goes and nukes koha-common. |
| 18:47 | this didn't happen in my test upgrade this morning :( | |
| 18:47 | * ashimema | is feeling positive with rangi's yep response |
| 18:47 | cait | i am sorry, i didn't see it was so serious :( |
| 18:48 | rangi | http://search.cpan.org/~robm/C[…]stMmap.pm#METHODS |
| 18:48 | cait | i would have pushed for a proper fix more then |
| 18:48 | rangi | find where its creating the new object, it will be in Koha::Cache |
| 18:49 | sub _initialize_fastmmap { | |
| 18:49 | in Koha/Cache/pm | |
| 18:49 | .pm even | |
| 18:49 | 'share_file' => "/tmp/sharefile-koha-$self->{'namespace'}" | |
| 18:49 | ashimema | found it.. |
| 18:49 | rangi | make sure $self->{'namespace'} |
| 18:49 | is different for each instance | |
| 18:50 | $self->{'namespace'} ||= $ENV{MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE} || 'koha'; | |
| 18:50 | setting some ENV variables should fix this | |
| 18:50 | in your apache config | |
| 18:50 | and when you run any scripts | |
| 18:50 | that make sense? | |
| 18:51 | ashimema | I believe so |
| 18:51 | thanks rangi | |
| 18:51 | cait | rangi++ |
| 18:51 | rangi | no worries hope it helps |
| 18:51 | cait | being awesome :) |
| 18:51 | ashimema | I'm intrugued why $self->{'namespace'} is beign set the same for all instances on the server.. |
| 18:51 | but that's another questions. | |
| 18:52 | * cait | crosses fingers for ashimema |
| 18:52 | rangi | cos of that line |
| 18:52 | $self->{'namespace'} ||= $ENV{MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE} || 'koha'; | |
| 18:52 | its defaulting to koha | |
| 18:52 | cait | ah |
| 18:53 | shouldn't there be a way to turn of caching if you don't want to? | |
| 18:53 | it seems that will kick in always? | |
| 18:53 | rangi | yep |
| 18:55 | you can pass in a namespace when you call Koha::Cache->new | |
| 18:55 | eg | |
| 18:55 | ashimema | So... I can confirm that setting: |
| 18:55 | SetEnv MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE="instance_name" | |
| 18:56 | for each instance indeed does the trick. | |
| 18:56 | that's a nasty bug.. | |
| 18:56 | rangi | its not even a bug |
| 18:56 | its just that it should be configured out of the box | |
| 18:56 | cait | hm |
| 18:56 | rangi | i mean, its not a bug in caching |
| 18:56 | cait | but what if you don't want to use memcache? |
| 18:56 | ashimema | I'd certainly not drawn the conclusion that mmap needed a memcached namespace ot be set ;) |
| 18:57 | indeed.. | |
| 18:57 | cait | i mean you say no at installation time and it sitll tries to? |
| 18:57 | ashimema | it's not a bug in caching. |
| 18:57 | rangi | yep |
| 18:57 | ashimema | thanks rangi.. you've saved me allot of headaches. |
| 18:57 | rangi | its a bug in how we call KOha::Cache->new |
| 18:57 | i mean its there in the docs, but who reads those :) | |
| 18:57 | cait | so what i'd do is just make sure a Memchaced thing is set... even if we don't use memcache? |
| 18:58 | or will that make other bad stuff happen? | |
| 18:58 | like... turning it on? | |
| 18:58 | * cait | is confused but worreid to run into this soon |
| 18:58 | rangi | the real fix |
| 18:58 | wahanui | the real fix is to learn python and fix git-bz :-) |
| 18:59 | rangi | is to call Koha::Cache->new({cache_type => $cache_type, namespace => $namespace}); |
| 18:59 | the env is there only as a fallback | |
| 18:59 | ashimema | I don't like that an environment variable clearly named MEMCACHED is used for a non memchaced thing.. |
| 18:59 | rangi | i dont like its an env variable at all |
| 19:00 | the real fix is to actually pass in the namespace | |
| 19:00 | ashimema | I'e rather it just called CACHE_NAMESPACE making it generic if that's the case.. and set by default to somthing sensible on a per instance basis. |
| 19:00 | rangi | Koha::Cache expects you to |
| 19:00 | it just falls back to that | |
| 19:00 | ashimema | hmm.. so the bug is further up in the code.. |
| 19:00 | rangi | yep |
| 19:00 | ashimema | where we should be passing in a namespace. |
| 19:00 | rangi | in the places that call it |
| 19:00 | exactly | |
| 19:01 | ashimema | k.. |
| 19:01 | so.. | |
| 19:01 | rangi | cos env variables suck, when you are doing plack etc |
| 19:01 | and cronjobs | |
| 19:01 | wahanui | cronjobs are essential |
| 19:01 | ashimema | should I bother submitting a fix to the installer to set an env variable by default or not.. that is the question. |
| 19:01 | haha.. agreed.. | |
| 19:01 | cait | so... someone volunteering to do a real fix? it suddenly sounds quite complicated |
| 19:01 | rangi | no its really not complicated at all |
| 19:01 | cait | :( |
| 19:01 | rangi | just find the places that call Koha::Cache->new |
| 19:02 | and fix them to pass a namespace | |
| 19:02 | ashimema | just means tracking down all the calling routines and correcting the way they call it ;) |
| 19:02 | rangi | theres very few |
| 19:02 | one or 2 | |
| 19:02 | wahanui | 3 |
| 19:02 | ashimema | 3 ;) |
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| 19:04 | ashimema | once in Koha::Cache itself.. but in this case it looks like it's meant to be shared.. |
| 19:04 | mtompset | wahanui: You said learn python?! Who taught you such a foul utterance? :P |
| 19:04 | wahanui | wish i knew, mtompset |
| 19:04 | ashimema | get_instance routine creates a singleton_cache? |
| 19:04 | no idea why. | |
| 19:04 | right... | |
| 19:04 | dinner | |
| 19:04 | rangi | id ask jcamins or eythian about that |
| 19:04 | ashimema | brb |
| 19:04 | rangi | but for now, the env variable will save you until thats fixed |
| 19:05 | jcamins | For the record, I expressed my distaste for environmental variables from the start. |
| 19:05 | rangi | *nod* i remember |
| 19:05 | jcamins | But my distaste for doing nothing was greater than my distaste for environmental variables. |
| 19:05 | rangi | as did i |
| 19:05 | yup | |
| 19:05 | when its configured it works well | |
| 19:06 | ashimema | thanks guys |
| 19:09 | rangi | ashimema: one of yours? |
| 19:10 | mtompset | python? |
| 19:10 | wahanui | i guess python is a bit ropey with its utf8 handling, but it can be made to work |
| 19:11 | oleonard | jcamins: Really? My distaste for doing nothing is at an all-time low! |
| 19:12 | rangi | heh |
| 19:12 | thanks for the followup oleonard | |
| 19:12 | on the z3950 thing | |
| 19:12 | * cait | is just confused |
| 19:13 | oleonard | Sure, I hope it was diplomatic. I wanted him to get his patch in too. |
| 19:13 | rangi | *nod* |
| 19:13 | i think so | |
| 19:14 | jcamins | oleonard: that was when I was young and naive. |
| 19:28 | kathryn joined #koha | |
| 19:33 | rangi | this weather is awful |
| 19:33 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 19:33 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (8:00 AM NZDT on December 10, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:35 | jcamins | Here, too. |
| 19:35 | @wunder 11375 | |
| 19:35 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Meadow Lake, New York, New York is 5.6°C (2:14 PM EST on December 09, 2014). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... |
| 19:36 | jcamins | No flood advisory? How odd. |
| 19:36 | * chris_n | hands jcamins a pair of hip waders |
| 19:36 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:37 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.3°C (8:35 PM CET on December 09, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:37 | cait | ... will you people stop complaining? :) |
| 19:37 | ok.. I like rain, cold not so much | |
| 19:37 | * jcamins | prefers cold to rain. |
| 19:38 | jcamins | At least if it's just cold you can wear a jacket and have some hope of not getting painfully cold. |
| 19:38 | When there are torrential downpours and it's below 10C, you are going to be in danger of hypothermia. | |
| 19:39 | cait | but rain sounds nice |
| 19:39 | can't say that about cold :) | |
| 19:40 | ibeardslee | wind cold rain .. I can handle two of those at a time, although cold & rain is probably the least prefered combination. |
| 19:41 | also where 'not cold' is 18°C+ | |
| 19:41 | mtompset | By the way, does anyone know how to upgrade debhelper on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? |
| 19:43 | jcamins | ibeardslee: that sounds reasonable. |
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| 20:15 | larryb | hello #koha |
| 20:16 | eythian, you here? | |
| 20:17 | rangi | hes in a training course all day |
| 20:17 | software defined radio | |
| 20:17 | larryb | sounds like fun |
| 20:17 | eythian handles the apt repository, right? | |
| 20:18 | rangi | https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/training/#e114 |
| 20:18 | yep | |
| 20:19 | larryb | ah okay. I noticed that the oldstable version is still 3.14, instead of 3.16 |
| 20:19 | rangi | ah yep |
| 20:20 | larryb | rangi, can you let him know? |
| 20:20 | rangi | will do |
| 20:20 | larryb | thank you sir |
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| 20:21 | larryb | I wonder too if we should start changing how the packages are built. I noticed the other day, when installing a package via dpkg on Ubuntu 14.04, that the later versions of dpkg don't like .deb packages where the version number doesn't start with a digit. |
| 20:21 | It refused to install it. | |
| 20:22 | I presume Wheezy will do the same | |
| 20:23 | rangi | it does start with a digit doesnt it? |
| 20:23 | larryb | I believe it starts with 'koha-common' |
| 20:23 | mtompset | Why are you using dpkg to install on Ubuntu 14.04? |
| 20:23 | rangi | koha-common_3.18.00_all.deb |
| 20:23 | larryb | because I was installing a custom package with some additional patches in it |
| 20:24 | mtompset | Ah. |
| 20:24 | rangi | ah well thats up to you when you make the package |
| 20:24 | ./debian/build-git-snapshot -v 3.14.11 -r /tmp | |
| 20:24 | you give it the version number you want | |
| 20:24 | larryb | yeah, and I fixed it on our packages, but there are also situations where you might want to download the .deb file from the repository and install via dpkg. |
| 20:25 | rangi | they look fine in the repo to me |
| 20:25 | larryb | it's rare, but there have been occasions where I needed to do that |
| 20:25 | okay, well maybe it's not an issue then | |
| 20:26 | * rangi | wgets it to test |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | I don't recall having that problem when I've done it on 14.04 |
| 20:26 | not from the repository anyway | |
| 20:26 | larryb | hmm, maybe it was just a problem with the ones I built |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | nor, come to think of it, from a custom package that started with koha-common |
| 20:27 | rangi | works on debian sid |
| 20:27 | larryb | cool |
| 20:27 | rangi | i think if you forget the -v when you build or did -v somewords |
| 20:27 | it would complain | |
| 20:27 | rejigging the apt repository is on his list too | |
| 20:27 | larryb | no, I did include the -v when I built it, but the version I gave was something like 'bywater-v3.16.04...' |
| 20:28 | rangi | ah yeah, it wont like that |
| 20:28 | larryb | didn't like that so I set -v to '3.16.04-6.bywater' and that worked fine |
| 20:28 | rangi | i do -v 3.16.04~bywater |
| 20:30 | http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/1[…]ming-explanation/ | |
| 20:30 | if you want to name them the ubuntu way :) | |
| 20:31 | larryb | well, that's pretty close to what I'm doing |
| 20:33 | rangi | hmm we need to get rid of the last of the given and whens |
| 20:34 | 90% of our combined error logs are warns from those | |
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| 20:38 | forgetpasword | hi all |
| 20:38 | i need help about zebra indexer | |
| 20:38 | have anybody alive | |
| 20:41 | cait | rangi: some new must have sneaked in |
| 20:41 | rangi: thought we had got them all | |
| 20:43 | larryb left #koha | |
| 20:48 | forgetpasword | Zebra version:Zebra 2.0.59 (C) 1994-2014, Index Data Zebra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. SHA1 ID: c00bfddbf0f3608340d61298acc61dafb167f9b2 Using ICU |
| 20:48 | ErrorZebra server seems not to be available. Is it started? | |
| 20:49 | how i can solve this problem? | |
| 20:51 | cait | how did you install koha? |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | oh, cait |
| 20:56 | I had a question for you | |
| 20:57 | cait | yes? |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | we're having some librarians come for a bug squashing party |
| 20:57 | cait | ohcool |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | do you have some easy ones for signoff or fixing? |
| 20:57 | or do you know of some | |
| 20:57 | forgetpasword | i need one person , how can help me . i will pay for this |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | forgetpasword: you didn't answer cait's question - how did you install Koha? |
| 20:58 | packages? tarball? | |
| 20:59 | don't know? | |
| 20:59 | forgetpasword | i installed zebra, inside koha |
| 20:59 | it was 3 year ago | |
| 20:59 | i can’t remember | |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | searching faq? |
| 20:59 | wahanui | it has been said that searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | ^ see there |
| 21:01 | forgetpasword | i saw it |
| 21:02 | drojf | forgetpasword: what operating system are you using? |
| 21:03 | forgetpasword | debian |
| 21:04 | drojf | wizzyrea: there are some opac patches by oleonard which are usually easy to test/sign off |
| 21:05 | forgetpasword | Koha version:3.10.01.000 |
| 21:05 | Linux libami 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue May 13 17:14:12 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux | |
| 21:06 | cait | wizzyrea: everything owen is usually good to test yep |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | for fixing? |
| 21:07 | cait | ah, you want them to write patche stoo? |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | rather "what about for fixing" |
| 21:07 | cait | ah hm |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | it would be good to have both types :) |
| 21:07 | rangi | ideally yeah |
| 21:07 | any typos, mistakes in teh help etc | |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | we thought you might know best of those |
| 21:07 | I need to use more words. I blame being cold and wet. | |
| 21:08 | cait | i wonder if we could extend the use of the new price tt plugin |
| 21:08 | for formatting prices | |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | we thought you might know best of bugs that fall into this category. |
| 21:08 | cait | it would be easy to add to templates |
| 21:08 | but not sure if the plugin does all yet that is needed | |
| 21:09 | hm no easy bugs left in my list | |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | how |
| 21:10 | oh WW | |
| 21:10 | mtompset | With all this windows talk, I'm going to see how impossible it is under Windows Technical Preview. :) |
| 21:10 | cait | ? |
| 21:12 | drojf | mtompset: why? (and hello) |
| 21:12 | mtompset | I'm going to install apache, mysql, and strawberry perl (or some other windowsy perl).... |
| 21:12 | Well, we keep saying it isn't possible... perhaps it is now... maybe in the next to impossible chance it is, it would be nice to know. :) | |
| 21:13 | rangi | its still a horribly bad idea |
| 21:13 | drojf | forgetpasword: you could try 'apt-cache policy koha-common' to see if you installed packages |
| 21:13 | * cait | agrees |
| 21:14 | drojf | for starters |
| 21:14 | mtompset | Yes, it is... but one has to dream of the freedom to do really stupid things. :) |
| 21:14 | drojf | stupid nonfree things |
| 21:14 | rangi | not with proprietary software one doesnt |
| 21:14 | cait | ... and noone will be able to help - because we don't run windows |
| 21:15 | drojf | my vision… a windows-based live-dvd of koha |
| 21:15 | rangi | heh |
| 21:15 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 21:15 | drojf | sorry :D |
| 21:15 | mtompset | If this works, I'll figure out how. :P |
| 21:15 | jcamins | lol |
| 21:18 | mtompset | And if it works, and I make a live-dvd of it, I'll be sure to call it "Drojf's Dream Koha Live-DVD" |
| 21:18 | drojf | lol |
| 21:18 | i'll volunteer as the "Drojf's Dream Koha Live-DVD"-manager | |
| 21:19 | cait | be careful what you get yourself into |
| 21:19 | * mtompset | worries he is making promises that may end up happening. :) |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | please don't. |
| 21:21 | I'm asking you with my brain. | |
| 21:22 | that basically creates a mess that nobody wants to deal with. | |
| 21:22 | and we have values to uphold. | |
| 21:22 | mtompset | You think I'm stupid enough to release it?! |
| 21:23 | I'd just burn a copy for drojf. ;) | |
| 21:23 | drojf | it will go somewhere. kohalivedvdleaks kohaonwindowsleaks. don't underestimate all these crazy people after these things |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa[…]bv.81449611,d.dGY |
| 21:24 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA this is a nicer url | |
| 21:24 | mtompset | Installing Strawberry Perl. ;) |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | you're dead to me. |
| 21:24 | ;) | |
| 21:25 | * wizzyrea | is only kidding |
| 21:25 | drojf | :D |
| 21:26 | mtompset | I hope not, wizzyrea. You're one of the fun people on this great channel. -- *whew* Glad you said that. :) |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 21:29 | mtompset | Well, I need to run. Guess I go back to the insanity later. |
| 21:29 | Have a great day, #koha. :) | |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | please don't |
| 21:29 | later :) | |
| 21:29 | go back to the insanity, that is. | |
| 21:48 | magnuse | oh, the insanity |
| 21:48 | rangi | heh |
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| 21:50 | cait | night #koha |
| 21:50 | cait left #koha | |
| 21:52 | magnuse | yeah, have fun #koha! |
| 21:52 | rangi | cya magnuse |
| 22:01 | drojf | one board to rule them all |
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| 22:23 | dcook | That sad moment when you have to restart your machine and close approximately a million tabs |
| 22:23 | Even though you weren't using 99.9% of those tabs anyway and you won't really miss them | |
| 22:31 | wizzyrea | tab bankruptcy. Though they'll probably ask to be restored when you start up again |
| 22:31 | firefox is good like that. | |
| 22:45 | rangi | oh good grief |
| 22:46 | way to post that to a public list | |
| 22:46 | *sigh* there goes teh rest of the fucking day | |
| 22:49 | bag | yeah that was umm debatable |
| 22:50 | rangi | its to do with the facets |
| 22:51 | drojf | oh. that's why it doesn't work for me then? |
| 22:51 | rangi | yeah you need to get results, 3.16 too |
| 22:51 | drojf | i have not added the koha-conf.xml entry |
| 22:51 | (i think) | |
| 22:51 | rangi | it shouldnt need an entry |
| 22:52 | just if you have any results and have facets on | |
| 22:53 | * rangi | will work on a fix |
| 22:59 | drojf | actually, i had the entry and that killed facet completely and saved me ^^ |
| 22:59 | * bag | sends rangi a cookie for now |
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| 23:07 | wizzyrea | have you already filed a bug for that? Was going to suggest he do so and post a general reminder that security bugs should be filed in the proper way. |
| 23:08 | actually we should add how to file a security bug to the footer of the list emails. | |
| 23:08 | rangi | that would be good, i did an offlist reply but an onlist one (That doesnt quote the mail of course :)) would be great |
| 23:10 | rambutan | bug 11341 |
| 23:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11341 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, XSS attack vector in facets in OPAC - prog theme |
| 23:10 | rangi | yeah its totally a regression of that |
| 23:10 | but lets not talk about it too much more on a publicly logged channel until we have a patch | |
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| 23:18 | rangi | its only in bootstrap |
| 23:18 | thats all im gonna say until ive put up a patch :) | |
| 23:19 | drojf | i'd test something within the next half hour or so, if already available. |
| 23:20 | (not meaning you have to be done by then, just that i'll go to sleep afterwards ^^) | |
| 23:20 | rangi | :) |
| 23:49 | bug 13425 | |
| 23:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13425 is not accessible. |
| 23:49 | rangi | has the patch |
| 23:51 | if i can get a signoff or 2 | |
| 23:52 | that'd be great | |
| 23:53 | drojf | i can't see the bug :P |
| 23:54 | rangi | hm yeah thats the trick |
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| 23:57 | rangi | drojf: now? |
| 23:57 | wahanui | now is good time with holidays coming up |
| 23:58 | wajasu | well. i might be able to test it if i can see it when i get back in 2 hours. |
| 23:58 | bag | rangi: still "Failed to retrieve bug information: NotPermitted" |
| 23:59 | rangi | i think drojf should be able to now |
| 23:59 | drojf | rangi: i can see it |
| 23:59 | rangi | cool |
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