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| 12:31 | drojf | is this page still valid? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_to_dom_indexing |
| 12:32 | i wasn't sure so i did not pass it around on the mailing list | |
| 12:33 | we should have up to date information on that somewhere, there will be more people with the wrong zebra_*_index_mode | |
| 12:33 | and since gprs is deprecated and all… | |
| 12:38 | @later tell cait you mean like http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9248 ? ;) | |
| 12:38 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:38 | 04Bug 9248: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Failed QA , Add a German Zebra language definition file | |
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| 14:11 | drojf | the message for zebra_bib_grs_warn on about.pl suggests that setting zebra_bib_index_mode to 'dom' is enough to switch to dom indexing. is that true these days? (given the mail on the list, i assume it is not, but it sounds like it is supposed to?) |
| 14:34 | jcamins | drojf: not at all true, no. |
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| 18:48 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:49 | @later tell drojf then we should fix it :) | |
| 18:49 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:49 | drojf | @later tell cait ok :) |
| 18:49 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:49 | cait | oh hey :) |
| 18:49 | drojf | hi |
| 18:49 | that was fun :) | |
| 18:49 | cait | sorry, just got back from a weekend trip |
| 18:50 | drojf | oh nice |
| 18:51 | cait | we were at a chocolate christmas market... |
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| 18:59 | rangi | http://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences sweet aleisha fixed the scaling issue |
| 19:00 | morning | |
| 19:01 | drojf | hi rangi |
| 19:01 | cait: oh chocolate. what did you bring for us? :) | |
| 19:01 | cait | morning rangi |
| 19:01 | 2kg ritter sport surprise bag? :) | |
| 19:01 | and one roses and one with rapsberry... i think | |
| 19:02 | drojf | sounds great :D |
| 19:08 | i accidentally added >2mb translation stuff to a patch. that would have had a nice impact on my contributed lines ;) | |
| 19:09 | cait | heh |
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| 20:26 | * wizzyrea | gives a monday wave |
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| 20:45 | wizzyrea | ibeardslee: http://www.washingtonpost.com/[…]out-the-internet/ |
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| 20:59 | ibeardslee | wizzyrea: ohhh |
| 21:00 | Good to see things like that happen | |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | amazing eh |
| 21:01 | some libraries in kansas doing it too, I'm told. | |
| 21:02 | It is also testing its model with state library systems in Kansas and Maine. < NEKLS, to be exact. | |
| 21:02 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | forget it |
| 21:02 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot it |
| 21:02 | ibeardslee | NZ should be able to do something like that in all libraries |
| 21:03 | we have a UFB network going through the country, we should be able to have a solid backbone that have ISPs peered | |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | exactly |
| 21:03 | rural areas are a bit hard | |
| 21:03 | some places that still have line of sight phone | |
| 21:04 | though getting better maybe. | |
| 21:04 | ibeardslee | not that hard, .. although depends how you do it. if you can get network to a community centre and encourage people to use that, it is a start |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 21:05 | ibeardslee | sigh .. for a big lotto win |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | yeah, or less douchey politicians |
| 21:06 | ibeardslee | yep .. paying for carbon credits so we can increase emmisions seems to be more important |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | so dumb, I know we can do better at carbon emissions. |
| 21:08 | ibeardslee | unfortunately a big lotto win is more likely than less douchey politicians |
| 21:09 | * ibeardslee | is too young to be so cynical |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | it's part of the plan to make good people feel hopeless. |
| 21:10 | so they won't object. | |
| 21:15 | ibeardslee | that and subsidising reality TV |
| 21:24 | eythian | hi |
| 21:24 | wahanui | niihau, eythian |
| 21:34 | jcamins | wizzyrea: unfortunately, the libraries still aren't at times when people might want to go in to check out the access points. |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | aren't what? open? |
| 21:34 | eythian | yeah, that sentence no verb. |
| 21:35 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 21:35 | Yeah, open. | |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | :( that sucks |
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| 22:13 | * magnuse | waves at all the cool people then promptly falls asleep |
| 22:18 | ibeardslee | still need to find a way to bootstrap things like that .. do you still need to go irl to join a library? |
| 22:19 | dcook | ibeardslee, depends on the library, I suppose? |
| 22:19 | If it's a public library, you almost always need to show some proof of residence | |
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| 22:20 | ibeardslee | yeah true. But I suppose once that has happened then, online checkout/delivery of books/access points are possible although, I imagine, costly. |
| 22:21 | dcook | Hmm, good question |
| 22:21 | ibeardslee | .. feel free to tweak punctuation |
| 22:21 | dcook | hehe |
| 22:21 | I've heard stories about "libraries" that are essentially just post boxes | |
| 22:21 | But I suppose that's still shipping to a "central" location | |
| 22:21 | Not to the users | |
| 22:21 | online checkout would be rad | |
| 22:22 | Very rad in fact | |
| 22:22 | Damn it, why don't libraries do that... | |
| 22:22 | :p | |
| 22:22 | ibeardslee | yeah .. I had a discussion a while back with wizzyrea about how the library access is a tablet of some sort. |
| 22:22 | electronic delivery of books | |
| 22:23 | and other research, information access | |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | curated things |
| 22:23 | ibeardslee | yes |
| 22:23 | dcook | I'm not sure I understand? |
| 22:23 | Wait.. | |
| 22:23 | "I'm not sure I understand."* | |
| 22:24 | * dcook | is always confused when people put question marks instead of full stops. |
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| 22:24 | eythian | dcook: hello! |
| 22:24 | ibeardslee | instead of a library card, people get a tablet that gives access to the library's resources |
| 22:25 | eythian | what is this, star trek? |
| 22:25 | dcook | heya, eythian :) |
| 22:25 | ibeardslee: I'm also thinking star trek | |
| 22:26 | Sounds interesting. I wish I were more connected with my local library | |
| 22:26 | In the past, it was too far to walk from my house | |
| 22:26 | Now it's close enough to walk to, but it's a bit past my house... so I never go that far after work :p | |
| 22:27 | eythian | http://paste.koha-community.org/306 <-- related story about checking out the internet |
| 22:27 | ibeardslee | walk home a different way |
| 22:28 | eythian | http://youtu.be/9ZlBUglE6Hc <-- here's a guide |
| 22:31 | wizzyrea | yeah, libraries think they need complicated software to manage computers |
| 22:32 | but what they really need, and what I always advocated for, was exactly what he described there. | |
| 22:32 | a barcode, associated with a computer, with hourly loans and fines. | |
| 22:33 | ibeardslee | scan your card to 'login' and that kicks you off after your time. |
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | even that's too complicated. |
| 22:35 | eythian | ibeardslee: |
| 22:35 | <neale> ha, nice | |
| 22:35 | <neale> SpaceHobo, what you don't understand is that we must apply technology to everything. | |
| 22:35 | <SpaceHobo> haha yeah | |
| 22:35 | <neale> It is a moral imperative | |
| 22:35 | <neale> cf: voting | |
| 22:35 | (those are the bits immediately after the paste) | |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | yeah, it's always been a peeve of mine when people try to solve people problems with an overuse of technology. |
| 22:36 | often you don't have a technical problem - you have a people problem that seems like you might have to be confrontational so you seek a technical solution to that. | |
| 22:36 | "I can't do anything about it, the computer says your time is up" | |
| 22:36 | ibeardslee | if I don't have to deal with people that's a win ;) |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | haha. |
| 22:37 | ibeardslee | .. or maybe if people don't have to deal with me .. |
| 22:37 | dcook | hehe |
| 22:38 | * wizzyrea | is torn on being nice or being snarktastic |
| 22:38 | eythian | https://twitter.com/hypatiadot[…]41070697716412417 |
| 22:38 | dcook | It's a tough one. If you're only able to go to the library that day to print off your resume, and everyone else is hogging the computers (even if they are getting fines), that doesn't really help the person who needs to print off their resume :/ |
| 22:39 | wizzyrea | yeah, this is why libraries have staff. :P |
| 22:39 | rangi | i should get to see those in person tomorrow :) |
| 22:39 | wizzyrea | i want some of those beads for soren. |
| 22:39 | dcook | Those are rad |
| 22:39 | I need some of those beads :p | |
| 22:40 | eythian | I'll see if they have extras |
| 22:40 | it's possible they're only giving them out to people from overseas though | |
| 22:40 | wizzyrea | if they don't, at least find out where they got them ;) |
| 22:40 | eythian | locals should know that sun == death |
| 22:40 | wizzyrea | please and thank you |
| 22:41 | besides "the internet" though that's a valid answer - I just want to know if they walked into a shop and bought them. | |
| 22:41 | or ordered them online. | |
| 22:45 | dcook | Oh man... the sun in Greece was awesome |
| 22:45 | You could be in the sun all the time and not burn | |
| 22:46 | It was weird | |
| 22:46 | But awesome | |
| 22:48 | eythian | yeah, I found that in Europe too. |
| 22:48 | spend all day walking in the sun and might be a little red at the end of it | |
| 23:09 | dcook | Yep. It's pretty great. Now that summer is here/approaching, I need to remember that I can't go outside for 5 minutes without sunscreen. |
| 23:30 | @later tell tcohen back! I missed you too :) | |
| 23:30 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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