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| 00:06 | irma_ joined #koha | |
| 00:24 | dcook | Interesting... |
| 00:24 | wahanui | well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 00:24 | dcook | Apparently suggestions.pl also uses Koha::Cache... |
| 00:25 | Do the packages set up memcached by default? | |
| 00:25 | * dcook | was thinking a bit about how the Debian packages must work... |
| 00:25 | dcook | It's been a while since I've used them |
| 00:26 | Hmm... still using sharefile-koha-koha when I have MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE set anyways it seems... | |
| 00:26 | That's... surprising | |
| 00:27 | eythian | they don't set it up by default |
| 00:27 | it might create it, not sure if it'll use it. | |
| 00:27 | iirc it activates all the cache types on init | |
| 00:29 | dcook | Yeah, it does |
| 00:29 | init that is | |
| 00:30 | Who owns the Koha files with the packages? | |
| 00:30 | eythian | it's a user per instance |
| 00:30 | koha-instancename | |
| 00:34 | dcook | That's what I was thinking |
| 00:35 | So how does the web server factor in? | |
| 00:35 | As it would need to write... help files and some cache files | |
| 00:35 | eythian | it...serves web pages? |
| 00:35 | what's the question? | |
| 00:35 | wahanui | well, the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 00:35 | dcook | Well at the moment, when I go to supggestions.pl, I'm getting a fatal error because the web server can't write to that cache file |
| 00:36 | As it's owned by someone else | |
| 00:36 | eythian | oh, in the packages, the web stuff runs as the relevant user |
| 00:36 | dcook | Actually... |
| 00:36 | Sweet | |
| 00:36 | eythian | so it's never owned by someone else |
| 00:36 | dcook | That makes sense |
| 00:36 | (Although in hindsight, that might not be the problem I'm having atm) | |
| 00:38 | eythian | I regularly get it creating with the wrong permissions in my dev environment. |
| 00:38 | because it's switching between web and command line | |
| 00:38 | I should make them be the same user | |
| 00:38 | dcook | Mmm, that must be the case this time |
| 00:38 | eythian | ls -l will tell you |
| 00:38 | dcook | Yeah, I just did that |
| 00:40 | eythian | http://us2.campaign-archive2.c[…]fd3&id=174555d47c |
| 00:40 | err, probalby not useful for most of you | |
| 00:43 | wahanui: metadata is <reply>http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=1176 | |
| 00:43 | wahanui | ...but metadata is data... down with the distinction. ;)... |
| 00:43 | eythian | wahanui: metadata is also <reply>http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=1176 |
| 00:43 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 00:50 | dcook | On an unrelated note, does anyone know why Suggestions might filter by default to the user's branch only sometimes? |
| 00:52 | suggestion.pl is sure an interesting place to find oneself... | |
| 00:54 | eythian | because it's dumb |
| 00:54 | it's a constant annoyance | |
| 00:54 | though I thought it was fixed | |
| 00:54 | I could be wrong though | |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | I've seen that, it's an annoying thing. |
| 00:55 | dcook | So annoying |
| 01:02 | If I understand "$$suggestion_ref" correctly, it's absolutely ridiculous.. | |
| 01:02 | I probably don't understand it correctly though as it's all over the place | |
| 01:03 | eythian | it's just a scalar dereference |
| 01:03 | they're not common, but they're sensible enough | |
| 01:03 | dcook | Ah, that's not what I meant |
| 01:03 | eythian | it's just usually you don't need them |
| 01:03 | dcook | What I meant is... I don't know why the script uses the suggestion in a lot of places... |
| 01:03 | It looks like it's using the first suggestion it comes across... | |
| 01:03 | eythian | ah |
| 01:04 | dcook | So even though I have 5 suggestions for 5 branches, it's always going to use the first suggestion for the first branch :S |
| 01:04 | eythian | ah |
| 01:04 | dcook | But then I also see this |
| 01:04 | my $suggestion_ref = $input->Vars; | |
| 01:04 | :S | |
| 01:04 | eythian | eww |
| 01:04 | dcook | And deleting all sorts of stuff out of that and yeah... it's a bit of a mess |
| 01:05 | At least in 3.14.5 | |
| 01:10 | ka1vgm joined #koha | |
| 01:11 | dcook | my $branchfilter = ($displayby ne "branchcode") ? $input->param('branchcode') : ''; |
| 01:12 | my $displayby = $input->param('displayby') || ''; | |
| 01:12 | :S | |
| 01:12 | Huh... | |
| 01:12 | $$suggestion_ref{'branchcode'} = C4::Context->userenv->{'branch'}; | |
| 01:14 | There shouldn't be any input... | |
| 01:19 | wth.. | |
| 01:20 | $params .= $key . '=' . uri_escape($input->param($key)) . '&' | |
| 01:21 | Ah wait, that's not doing what I thought it was doing | |
| 01:21 | whew | |
| 01:22 | No idea at all how $input->param('branchcode') can possibly be set... | |
| 01:23 | Ah wait... | |
| 02:06 | eythian joined #koha | |
| 02:30 | dcook | Ok... glad to know I'm not going crazy... something weird is happening.. |
| 02:32 | ibeardslee | are they mutually exclusive? |
| 02:33 | dcook | Mmm |
| 02:33 | In this case, I think so | |
| 02:33 | Overall, no | |
| 02:33 | ;) | |
| 02:36 | Somehow $input is being changed but I have no idea how.. | |
| 02:36 | I'm guessing it's because of a reference somewhere... | |
| 02:36 | Which makes it super not obvious | |
| 02:37 | Yep, I'm pretty sure that's it | |
| 02:38 | $$suggestion_ref{'branchcode'} = C4::Context->userenv->{'branch'}; | |
| 02:38 | Because... my $suggestion_ref = $input->Vars; | |
| 02:39 | $suggestion_ref isn't a copy... it's a reference to the object | |
| 02:39 | I'm thinking this is something that got fixed.. | |
| 02:40 | Hmm... | |
| 02:40 | Nope. Code looks the same in prod and in dev... | |
| 02:41 | But it seems to work right in dev | |
| 02:41 | Unless that's coincidence... | |
| 02:42 | Yeah... I'm thinking it's coincidence | |
| 02:45 | And... dbic error | |
| 02:48 | wth... | |
| 02:48 | my $suggestion = $input->Vars; | |
| 02:49 | Mmm, rather old code... | |
| 02:58 | Ah, that's just a plain old accidental bug, me thinks | |
| 02:58 | The other one is... ugh | |
| 03:08 | Man... yeah... suggestions is ugly as sin | |
| 03:55 | AmitG joined #koha | |
| 04:18 | dac joined #koha | |
| 04:25 | AmitG | heya all |
| 04:25 | liz around? | |
| 04:28 | eythian | nope, she's gone |
| 04:53 | * eythian | notes that it looks like the /svc API sometimes returns XML, sometimes JSON. |
| 04:53 | eythian | I hope that's not true |
| 04:55 | * dac | is pretty sure that's true |
| 04:55 | dac | Like... 99.9% sure |
| 04:56 | eythian | that's dumb |
| 04:56 | one or the other, I don't care which | |
| 05:02 | dcook | Agreed |
| 05:02 | Koha isn't that great for consistency | |
| 05:02 | I wonder sometimes how many rules it would take to be consistent though.. | |
| 05:03 | If we went to a more service oriented structure, it would probably be easier to be consistent | |
| 05:03 | Maybe | |
| 05:03 | eythian | definitely |
| 05:03 | * dcook | counts how many super long emails he's just sent out |
| 05:03 | eythian | there's also this handy library for working with json, but to authenticate, you use the XML part. |
| 05:04 | dcook | ? |
| 05:04 | eythian | well, you call svc/authenticate and it responds in XML |
| 05:05 | then you can use svc/config/systempreferences/* and it responds in json | |
| 05:05 | there is no planet where this is sane | |
| 05:06 | dcook | Ahh, k. For a moment, I thought you were saying that it was sane |
| 05:06 | Almost pulled one of those O_o faces | |
| 05:49 | cait joined #koha | |
| 06:50 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:50 | dcook | heya magnuse && cait |
| 06:50 | btw, thanks for opening that report, cait :) | |
| 06:50 | I was a bit swamped today and couldn't confirm for sure | |
| 06:52 | magnuse | hm, is there somwhere we map between email domain names and institution names? |
| 06:53 | dcook | magnuse: How do you mean? |
| 06:53 | magnuse | i thought it was .mailmap, but it doesn't look like it |
| 06:53 | cait | magnuse: i think maybe in the release notes script |
| 06:53 | magnuse | ah, ok |
| 06:53 | cait | tomas said he had asked on the list, but i think imissed the mail |
| 06:53 | * dcook | isn't sure |
| 06:54 | magnuse | this looks promising: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=gitdm/domain-map :-) |
| 06:54 | cait++ | |
| 06:56 | also bug 13314 | |
| 06:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13314 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Fixes to .mailmap for the 3.18 release |
| 07:15 | * magnuse | sent tcohen an email |
| 07:16 | dcook | Ok. I got to bounce. |
| 07:16 | Night all :) | |
| 07:16 | magnuse | have fun dcook |
| 07:16 | cait | night dcook |
| 07:23 | laurence joined #koha | |
| 07:24 | ashimema | Monring #koha |
| 07:25 | magnuse | kia ora ashimema and laurence |
| 07:25 | * magnuse | wishes we had tons of integration tests |
| 07:25 | ashimema | Don't we all Magnuse |
| 07:25 | laurence | hi magnuse |
| 07:26 | ashimema | I'm still a bit hazy on writing integration tests (as apposed to unit tests) myself thouhg :( |
| 07:26 | Never could get Selenium working reliably... | |
| 07:26 | magnuse | i think of it as tests using Test::WWW::Mechanize or something similar |
| 07:26 | cait | ashimema: me neither |
| 07:27 | ashimema | indeed.. that's a more sensible route.. but also more work and my understanding was that selenium should be so simple that every day users could write/record tests |
| 07:27 | cait | that is maybe a bit too ambiious |
| 07:27 | ashimema | Would be fantastic to have a 'record' type testing framework.. to just record and replay actions |
| 07:28 | warning if they don't replay correctly of course | |
| 07:28 | else it would be a meanigless 'test' | |
| 07:29 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:29 | cait | with our templates changing too much, not sure if it makes sense to have them right now or focus on other clean up tasks first |
| 07:29 | there is soo crzay much we shoudl be doing | |
| 07:29 | magnuse | one step at a time :-) |
| 07:30 | liw | I've found the "recording" type test frameworks to be fragile against changes: you get to re-create the test too often when minute details change that don't really affect the thing being tested but ruin the recording |
| 07:30 | magnuse | good point, liw |
| 07:30 | ashimema | indeed... me to |
| 07:30 | liw | (but I have not enough experience with web stuff to be able to say anything actually useful that Koha _should_ do) |
| 07:31 | ashimema | doesn't stop me wishing they worked a bit better though ;) |
| 07:31 | cait | talking about steps... it's time to go to owrk :) |
| 07:31 | bbiab | |
| 07:31 | magnuse | have fun cait |
| 07:31 | one of these days i will get around to reading http://modernperlbooks.com/mt/[…]dom-and-mech.html | |
| 07:32 | * ashimema | thinks he may have to re-acquaint himself with 'dd' today. |
| 07:32 | cait | dd? |
| 07:32 | wahanui | dd is, like, Debian Developer |
| 07:32 | ashimema | dd is a linux tool to bit by bit copy stuff cait. |
| 07:32 | I got myself a shiny new latop on saturday.. | |
| 07:33 | before I strip it of windows and install linux I felt I aught to back up the spagetti of partitions they now call windows... just in case I eer needed to make a warranty claim (as they seem to claim warranties are now void if you wipe windows!) | |
| 07:33 | cait | ashimema: yay!!! |
| 07:34 | for the new machine | |
| 07:34 | boooo for the windows thing | |
| 07:34 | ashimema | I've never seen so many crazy partitions shippped on a machine before.. |
| 07:34 | it's madness | |
| 07:34 | cait | but good luck with the new machine |
| 07:34 | hope it will stop you from falling out of irc all the time :) | |
| 07:34 | andnow... i amreally gone :) | |
| 07:35 | ashimema | and man windos 8.1 is really really naughty demanding personal details all over the shop |
| 07:36 | * magnuse | bought a laptop without an os |
| 07:36 | ashimema | @you'de like to login to your new computer would you... ok, you'll need a microsoft account for that.. tell me every tiny personal detail about you and i'll store it forever on my cloud.. then, maybe, if your locuky I'll let you sign in to your new computer |
| 07:36 | huginn | ashimema: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 07:36 | ashimema | I had to get one in a hurry magnuse.. my last one finally completely blew up last week and I'm meant to be out with customers this week.. |
| 07:36 | hense walking into a shop and getting one off the shelf | |
| 07:39 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 07:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:45 | rangi | ashimema: look at t/db_dependent/www/batch.t |
| 07:46 | also http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]th_WWW::Mechanize | |
| 07:46 | ashimema | will do.. thanks Rangi |
| 07:49 | * ashimema | wishes he had more time to focus on koha at the moment... but alas other projects are at the top of the pile right now :( |
| 07:55 | alex_a joined #koha | |
| 07:56 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:57 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
| 07:57 | the new library in Bodø: http://www.theguardian.com/art[…]MP=share_btn_link | |
| 07:57 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:57 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 AM CET on November 24, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:58 | magnuse | one problem with the integrations tests is example data. should we have a default set of sample data? should the tests create the data they need? or should the tests be configurable so they could work with different data? |
| 07:58 | cait joined #koha | |
| 07:58 | cait | hi #koha |
| 07:59 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 08:06 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 08:08 | paul_p joined #koha | |
| 08:12 | cait | morning paul_p |
| 08:12 | are you back home? | |
| 08:12 | paul_p | hi cait. Yep, back home |
| 08:12 | (after a week-end in Nazareth) | |
| 08:13 | cait | did you have a good time? |
| 08:14 | hm is pootle down? | |
| 08:15 | magnuse | maybe someone wanted to give translators the weekend off? ;-) |
| 08:16 | cait | heh |
| 08:24 | gaetan_B joined #koha | |
| 08:25 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:29 | akafred joined #koha | |
| 08:32 | magnuse | bonjour gaetan_B and akafred |
| 08:44 | marcelr joined #koha | |
| 08:44 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 08:44 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
| 08:44 | marcelr | :) |
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| 08:56 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 08:56 | * Oak | waves |
| 08:59 | magnuse | Oak |
| 09:01 | mveron joined #koha | |
| 09:01 | kivilahtio joined #koha | |
| 09:03 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 09:04 | Oak | magnuse |
| 09:04 | hello mveron | |
| 09:04 | Lady Katrin. | |
| 09:04 | mveron | hello Oak |
| 09:04 | ...and all the others | |
| 09:04 | kivilahtio | hello Oak |
| 09:04 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 09:04 | Oak | hey kivilahtio |
| 09:04 | wahanui | somebody said kivilahtio was working to integrate our SMS provider to Koha |
| 09:04 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 10.6°C (10:04 AM CET on November 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:05 | kivilahtio | wahanui: I already did, but we are canging our SMS provider |
| 09:05 | wahanui | OK, kivilahtio. |
| 09:05 | kivilahtio | @wunder Joensuu |
| 09:05 | huginn | kivilahtio: The current temperature in Kontiolahti, Finland is 0.5°C (11:04 AM EET on November 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:08 | mveron | wahanui: Are you a bot? :-) |
| 09:08 | wahanui | OK, mveron. |
| 09:08 | kivilahtio | wahanui is my friend |
| 09:08 | mveron | :-) |
| 09:08 | kivilahtio | I am looking for information regarding Zebra not indexing all records in our DB, and can't figure out could we search our mailing list? |
| 09:09 | I guess someone must have encountered a similar issue. | |
| 09:09 | CAn I search the mailing list archive? | |
| 09:09 | mveron | cait: I prefer Vor-Ort-Ausleihe (On-site-checkouts) |
| 09:09 | And hi :-) | |
| 09:10 | kivilahtio | Is Zebra still under development? I don't remember there being facets in zebra? |
| 09:12 | cait | hi Oak, mveron and kivilahtio |
| 09:13 | * mveron | is invited to a Glögi... Maybe kivilahtio can explain? |
| 09:13 | cait | kivilahtio: there have been facets for a while - we didn't use them until lately |
| 09:13 | kivilahtio: it's sitll being developed i think, if you look on the indexdata website you shoudl see when the last version came out | |
| 09:14 | kivilahtio: and congratulations for the prize :) | |
| 09:14 | kivilahtio: ther eis a script in the misc folder somewhere... something with slice - it could help you find the records that don't get indexed | |
| 09:14 | also maybe running a reindex with more verbosity? | |
| 09:15 | ... and Joubu++ for patching 13329 | |
| 09:15 | now we need a sign off.. | |
| 09:16 | Joubu | Hi cait, #koha o/ |
| 09:18 | kivilahtio | mveron, you should go. It is warm and tasty |
| 09:19 | cait: we won a prize? | |
| 09:19 | :) | |
| 09:19 | cait | hm, there was a video and lots of finish, hope google translate didn't mess up :) |
| 09:20 | kivilahtio | yeah, Ministry of Culture and Education gave us the annual library innovators award |
| 09:20 | cait: This is a bit silly guestion but can I search the mailing list? All I get is hte archive :( | |
| 09:21 | cait | i think you can probably, using one of the mirrors |
| 09:21 | nabble or something? | |
| 09:21 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 09:21 | cait | ... and you shoudl write something for the newsletter about that |
| 09:21 | kivilahtio | cait: Yeah, we are working on it |
| 09:21 | cait | it sounds like a pretty cool award :) |
| 09:21 | great :) | |
| 09:22 | kivilahtio | cait: so expect us :) |
| 09:22 | so gmane.org mirrors our koha-devel -mailinglist? | |
| 09:22 | cait | there are some |
| 09:23 | kivilahtio | then we search from gmane to find the entries in koha-devel? |
| 09:23 | cait | i think one should have a search funtion at least |
| 09:23 | kivilahtio | strange world |
| 09:23 | cait | you could probably also just use google :) |
| 09:23 | kivilahtio | nah |
| 09:23 | cait | or another search of your choice |
| 09:23 | kivilahtio | i use DuckDuckgo.org |
| 09:24 | *I think I need to read the zebra manual from top to bottom | |
| 09:24 | The more I work with Zebra the less I feel the need to change to elasticsearch | |
| 09:25 | but I can imagine issues with large catalogues of 100GB+ | |
| 09:25 | I mean I am finding solutions to manyu issues made possibly by clever use of XSLT | |
| 09:27 | marcelr | kivilahtio: see also bug 12872; i have to get it out of FQA again |
| 09:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12872 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Failed QA , Exclude some fields from Zebra indexing |
| 09:29 | cait | marcelr: sorry, haven't read the whole thread yet - thx for your patience :) |
| 09:29 | marcelr | np |
| 09:30 | magnuse | yeah congrats kivilahtio! |
| 09:31 | kivilahtio | thanks magnuse |
| 09:31 | lots of hard work :) | |
| 09:31 | magnuse | who was the guy on stage with you? ari mäkiranta? |
| 09:31 | kivilahtio | but I am getting out of the frying pan !! |
| 09:31 | magnuse | ...and into the fire? |
| 09:31 | kivilahtio | magnuse: Yes, Ari |
| 09:31 | lol | |
| 09:31 | maybe | |
| 09:32 | magnuse | cool, thought i recognized him |
| 09:34 | kivilahtio | magnuse: Any ideas why our Zebra doesn't index all records? In zebraqueue there definetely are entries where the given biblios have been indexed by rebuild_zebra.pl but I cannot find those records from Zebra using the Yaz-client? Even a full bibliographic reindexing doesn't help here. |
| 09:35 | now when I manually reindex those individual records, they become visible in the zebra. | |
| 09:35 | this is very strange and happens randomly | |
| 09:37 | AmitG joined #koha | |
| 09:37 | AmitG | chris around? |
| 09:38 | magnuse | kivilahtio: how do you "manually reindex those individual records"? |
| 09:39 | very weird if even a full reindex does not help | |
| 09:40 | kivilahtio | magnuse: I run the ModZebra( $biblionumber, "specialUpdate", "biblioserver" ); in a script to add the biblionumber to the zebraqueue and run the incremental rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 09:41 | this seems to work | |
| 09:41 | but we cannot manually reindex (or force reindex) every time we add new records. To add insult to injury, some old records are missing as well. We got a reservation for a book, which couldn't be found. | |
| 09:41 | cait | sounds indeed a bit weird |
| 09:42 | kivilahtio | Book was in DB and everything was ok but the zebra index record was missing |
| 09:42 | cait | seems like your script would do the same as the normal reindexing? |
| 09:42 | kivilahtio | yes |
| 09:42 | exactly, and the records are already normally indexed | |
| 09:42 | sometimes the normal indexing doesn't work | |
| 09:43 | I have a gut feeling this is an incredibly painful Zebra-problem | |
| 09:46 | cait | hm which version are you on? |
| 09:46 | could it be a runtime thing? | |
| 09:46 | one index run not finished when the next starts... | |
| 09:47 | and are you using ht enormal -z way of indexing? | |
| 09:47 | kivilahtio | yes |
| 09:47 | 3.16.04 | |
| 09:48 | rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z -v runs every two minutes. There is a lock file in place to prevent all our cronjobs from starting before the running cronjobs closes | |
| 09:48 | cait | yeah, 3.16.4 shoudl have that |
| 09:49 | kivilahtio | rebuild_zebra.pl waits for the zebraidx to end before closing hte process |
| 09:50 | cait: I made a wrapper for all koha-cronjobs to time them and to lock them from running on top of each others | |
| 09:50 | then log everything | |
| 09:50 | magnuse | anything special about the missing records? like a missing 000 or 001 or something? |
| 09:51 | kivilahtio | magnuse: zebraidx should throw errors if there are errors with the records |
| 09:51 | however | |
| 09:51 | magnuse | if you edit the missing record, does it get indexed by the normal process? |
| 09:51 | cait | kivilahtio: for the zebra script koha shoudl take care of that now itself |
| 09:51 | magnuse | -z |
| 09:54 | kivilahtio | magnuse: yes |
| 09:54 | magnuse: it works fine | |
| 09:55 | cait | so it's something with how the cronjob runs... occasionally? feels like we can rule out the record itself |
| 09:55 | kivilahtio | I have no idea. My guess is that the space for the zebra index is getting low, or is spent and maybe indexing new records make old records vanish? |
| 09:55 | is this crazy? | |
| 09:56 | or should Zebra just crash when the allocated disk space is used? | |
| 09:56 | you set the index space from the zebra config files | |
| 09:58 | magnuse | i think it will crash if there is no more space |
| 10:06 | * cait | agrees with magnuse |
| 10:07 | kivilahtio | I think I will crash :) |
| 10:07 | maybe there is a small gnome who randomly logs in to our server and randomly deletes stuff, like zebra index records | |
| 10:07 | or maybe some message_queue -etries | |
| 10:08 | cait | that sounds very likel |
| 10:08 | y | |
| 10:08 | you shoudl setup gnome traps | |
| 10:08 | kivilahtio | cait: I should |
| 10:09 | but it doesnt' explain why after a full reindex those records are not available | |
| 10:09 | magnuse | yeah, that is really weird |
| 10:10 | so you notice a record is missing from the index, do a full reindex, still missing, put it in the zebra queue and then when -z has done its thing it is searchable? | |
| 10:10 | kivilahtio | yes |
| 10:10 | exactly | |
| 10:11 | magnuse | wow, that is weird |
| 10:11 | kivilahtio | tell me about it, maybe there is something wrong with the full indexing |
| 10:11 | magnuse | i can't remember hearing about that before |
| 10:11 | kivilahtio | maybe it doesn't actually reindex fully |
| 10:11 | still there is the small gnome deleting those index records | |
| 10:14 | magnuse | could it be that the full reindex fails silently? |
| 10:14 | kivilahtio | then we shouldn't have a search index in the first place :) |
| 10:15 | lemme see | |
| 10:15 | magnuse | true |
| 10:16 | have you tried reindexing without the shadow indexing? that *will* make searching unavailable during the indexing | |
| 10:27 | kivilahtio | i htought the searching has always been unavailable during full reindexing |
| 10:29 | thanks for the tip. I'll try that | |
| 10:32 | magnuse | no, if you do a normal full reindex, it will build the new index in a temporary location, while serving new searches from the old index. then when the new index is finished it will replace the old index. or so i think... |
| 10:35 | kivilahtio | magnuse: When doing the full reindexing our searches have always been off when the zebraidx starts, without the -w -flag |
| 10:40 | magnuse | hm, that is not how it should work, i *think* |
| 10:40 | * cait | agrees |
| 10:54 | * mveron | can not open http://translate.koha-community.org (as yesterday) |
| 10:55 | cait | i dropped bernardo an email |
| 10:55 | mveron | Thanks, cait :-) |
| 11:00 | cait | argentina is a few hours behind us, not sure when he will see it |
| 11:02 | magnuse | tcohen often shows up around this time, i think? |
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| 12:15 | cait | morning tcohen |
| 12:15 | tcohen | morning cait |
| 12:15 | * tcohen | is uploading the french subtitles |
| 12:33 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 12:33 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 22.0°C (9:00 AM ART on November 24, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
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| 12:39 | marcelr | khall: i looked at bug 13019, have two questions on the report |
| 12:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13019 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add base classes on which to build Koha objects |
| 12:40 | cait | can someone please sign off the suggestion blocker? |
| 12:40 | it has a patch now and is on the circ bugs wiki page | |
| 12:40 | * cait | has to run off to a meeting |
| 12:41 | jcamins | magnuse: what did I do? |
| 12:41 | khall | marcelr: what are your questions? |
| 12:41 | ah, I see | |
| 12:42 | I'm not entirely sure about the encode question. i'll test and confirm if it's needed | |
| 12:43 | marcelr: I really don't see that advantage to having a find method in Koha::Object. We've already got it in Koha::Objects, which is where we have all object getting methods already | |
| 12:44 | in addition, it means we have two separate implementations of fetch which could deviate over time | |
| 12:44 | does that make sense marcelr? | |
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| 12:52 | ashimema | wow.. this new laptop comes with no less than 7 partitions out of the box.. |
| 12:52 | what happened to windows in the intervening years since I last played with it.. | |
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| 12:58 | tcohen | fredericd: did u see my followup for 13157? |
| 12:59 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:59 | khall | marcelr: I signed off on your last followup and set to passed qa. Please change the status if you weren't ready to pass it. |
| 12:59 | marcelr | i look |
| 13:00 | khall | I think renaming new_from_dbic was a good idea |
| 13:00 | marcelr | did you test the encode? |
| 13:01 | no problem with removing the last patch for find | |
| 13:01 | khall | doh! Let me test that right now. Haven't been sleeping too well. Daria's teething now ; ) |
| 13:01 | marcelr | ok |
| 13:01 | the two finds would get out of sync little bit | |
| 13:03 | oleonard | Hey barton, a belated happy birthday to you! |
| 13:03 | barton | ah, thanks! :-) |
| 13:04 | tcohen | khall and marcel, i'm sure you're testing the use of encode in the context of 11944, right? |
| 13:05 | marcelr | no |
| 13:05 | tcohen | barton: happy birthday |
| 13:05 | marcelr | i think the encode in bg 13019 must be removed |
| 13:05 | khall | tcohen: I'll test on top of bug 11944 |
| 13:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 13:06 | tcohen | yeap, we already have regression tests for UTF-8 |
| 13:06 | barton | thanks tcohen |
| 13:06 | khall | marcelr: I've tested from the command line and so far it looks like the encode is not needed |
| 13:06 | tcohen | probably at the beggining of the 3.20 cycle they'll have enough coverage we can feel confident on pushing |
| 13:06 | marcelr | khall: i tested with 遺跡発見 and with áéíóú in the surname in a modified Borrowers.t |
| 13:06 | the encode must be removed | |
| 13:06 | you do not need it | |
| 13:06 | khall | marcelr: I'll post a patch right now and you can sign off on it |
| 13:07 | marcelr | ok |
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| 13:09 | khall | marcelr: ok, patch has been uploaded! |
| 13:09 | marcelr | ok i look |
| 13:11 | khall: will still add a qa comment | |
| 13:11 | khall | excellent! |
| 13:11 | marcelr | and change status again |
| 13:11 | wahanui | marcelr: that doesn't look right |
| 13:12 | marcelr | no sir |
| 13:16 | magnuse | jcamins: you made an integration test and documented stuff on the wiki :-) |
| 13:18 | jcamins | magnuse: oh, yeah. |
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| 13:26 | tcohen | morning jcamins |
| 13:26 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 13:26 | wahanui | Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast. |
| 13:26 | druthb | wahanui: morning? |
| 13:26 | wahanui | druthb: bugger all, i dunno |
| 13:26 | * druthb | scratches her head, and goes back to her corner. |
| 13:26 | marcelr | tcohen: bug 13019 is for you now! |
| 13:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13019 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add base classes on which to build Koha objects |
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| 13:48 | tcohen | oh noes |
| 13:52 | mveron | cait: Bug 13329 is signed-off |
| 13:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13329 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Can't make new suggestion with AllowPurchaseSuggestionBranchChoice turned on |
| 13:52 | * mveron | has a meeting... |
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| 14:08 | magnuse | tcohen++ |
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| 14:23 | cait | mveron++ |
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| 15:06 | tcohen | @later tell rangi how are you calculating the new devs? |
| 15:06 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:32 | cait | tcohen: manually :) |
| 15:32 | tcohen | cait++ |
| 15:32 | rangi++ | |
| 15:32 | cait | afaik he updates that portion of the dashboard manually |
| 15:33 | tcohen | will create a new_devs_3.18.tt template ;-) |
| 15:33 | cait | ah for the release notes? |
| 15:34 | i think there is script from marcel on the about.pl omnibus bug that does soemthing like find missing people | |
| 15:37 | khall | oleonard: want to give bug 12123 a shot when you have a moment? |
| 15:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12123 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , HTML notices can break the notice viewer |
| 15:38 | khall | it's an easy test and I though you may be able to make it more prettier ; ) |
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| 15:50 | tcohen | i love this community |
| 15:58 | ashimema | cait you about..? |
| 15:58 | community++ | |
| 15:59 | cait | only half |
| 15:59 | well maybe about a third... | |
| 15:59 | ashimema? | |
| 15:59 | wahanui | ashimema is on qa now .) |
| 16:02 | ashimema | haha. |
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| 16:29 | mtj | hey #koha, have other people spotted weird behaviour around the 'visibility' stuff, for subfields in fwrks |
| 16:29 | Visibility: OPAC Intranet Editor Collapsed Flagged | |
| 16:31 | specifically with the 'editor' checked ^ | |
| 16:32 | when creating a new bib, with that fwrk - the 'checked' subfield shows in the editor (good) | |
| 16:32 | but then..enabling some of the other visibility options for the subfield, in the fwrk | |
| 16:33 | ..the subfield no longer shows in the editor, anymore?! | |
| 16:33 | in 3.14... and master too | |
| 16:36 | ashimema | any git bz pros here.. |
| 16:37 | mtj | whats up ashimema? |
| 16:37 | ashimema | randomly can't seem to attach a patch :( |
| 16:38 | mtj | a timeout error? |
| 16:38 | pastebot | "ashimema" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "git-bz" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/294 |
| 16:38 | ashimema | nah.. |
| 16:38 | really odd one I've never seen before. | |
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| 16:38 | ashimema | no idea where the biblibre branch is coming from.. |
| 16:39 | I removed the biblibre remote days ago.. | |
| 16:39 | seems like somthings got out of sync.. | |
| 16:39 | but surely bz shouldn't care about that.. | |
| 16:40 | @seen dpavlin | |
| 16:40 | huginn | ashimema: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 11 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <dpavlin> khall: take a look at bug 12729 -- I opted to use mysql to tell me if date is overdue which will probably have some performance advantage over using DateTime perl module |
| 16:40 | mtj | hmm, thats an 'interesting' one ashimema :/ |
| 16:40 | ashimema | yeah.. I'm baffled.. |
| 16:41 | What more weird is that I only push up another patch moments ago and that went fine. | |
| 16:41 | mtj | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]t-some-refs-could |
| 16:42 | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]igin-head-get-set | |
| 16:42 | all stuff ive never done before | |
| 16:43 | its one of those 'your repo is somehow out-of-sync with a remote repo' bugs, huh.. | |
| 16:45 | ashimema | very odd.. |
| 16:46 | could do without this headache today.. | |
| 16:46 | thanks mtj | |
| 16:47 | mtj | np |
| 16:47 | curious... | |
| 16:47 | $ git branch -a | grep biblibre | |
| 16:47 | what does that give you? ^ | |
| 16:48 | ashimema | sorted.. |
| 16:48 | there were some old refs lying around. | |
| 16:48 | the above command gave nothing.. | |
| 16:49 | But.. when I did a grep for biblibre inside my .git dir | |
| 16:49 | I found 11944 in a ref | |
| 16:49 | rm -rfv refs/biblibre nuked it.. | |
| 16:49 | the git gc | |
| 16:49 | wahanui | i think the git gc is fine |
| 16:49 | ashimema | and git started to work :) |
| 16:49 | odd indeed.. | |
| 16:50 | mtj | sweet :0) |
| 16:52 | ashimema | any ldap people in da' house? |
| 16:53 | need comments on bug 12831 and bug 9165 | |
| 16:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12831 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , local only logins should still work when ldap authentication is enabled |
| 16:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9165 enhancement, P4, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow preventing passwords from being stored locally when using LDAP | |
| 16:53 | bag | morning |
| 16:55 | ashimema | hey bag.. |
| 16:56 | nengard_phone | hi all is there a jquery way i can hide popularity as a sort option in the opac? |
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| 17:05 | mtj | $( "optgroup[label*='Popularity']" ).remove() |
| 17:05 | something like that? ^ | |
| 17:10 | hows this for a weird bug.. | |
| 17:10 | ..if you decide to hide a subfield in the OPAC, via the frameworks - it no longer shows in the cataloging editor | |
| 17:13 | oleonard | Has hiding a subfield in the OPAC ever really worked properly? |
| 17:14 | mtj | hmm, i recall reading a related bug to this... the bitwise math was buggy, for the subfield visibility stuff |
| 17:14 | heh, fair point owen :) | |
| 17:14 | the bug seems to be quite subtle... | |
| 17:15 | if you hide both opac and staff options, subfield displays OK in editor | |
| 17:15 | if you hide staff, display opac - subfield displays OK in editor | |
| 17:16 | but... if you hide opac, display staff - subfield *wont* display in editor | |
| 17:23 | looking fwd to fixing that one | |
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| 17:35 | reiveune | bye |
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| 18:20 | tcohen | oleonard: any thoughts about the <nav> tag? |
| 18:22 | oleonard | I don't know a lot about it tcohen |
| 18:23 | To my understanding most of the new HTML5 elements are interesting if you're concerned about semantics but that there aren't necessarily practical benefits from user agents yet | |
| 18:26 | * tcohen | is tidying the release notes templates |
| 18:27 | oleonard | tcohen: Perhaps I misunderstand your question? |
| 18:27 | tcohen | i'm refactoring (a bit) the release notes templates, and am adding a table of contents |
| 18:28 | just wanted to know if it would be fine to use it | |
| 18:28 | oleonard | Oh I see |
| 18:28 | tcohen | (<nav>) |
| 18:28 | i think it will fit well inside wordpress (the main purpose) | |
| 18:34 | oleonard: http://snag.gy/AFTBI.jpg | |
| 19:04 | rangi | i like it |
| 19:04 | fwiw | |
| 19:04 | tcohen: the history.txt | |
| 19:05 | new devs since the 3.16.0 release | |
| 19:06 | tcohen | ah |
| 19:06 | :-D | |
| 19:08 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 19:18 | Has anyone called for the death of MARC yet today? | |
| 19:20 | rangi | im sure |
| 19:24 | bag | death of marc |
| 19:25 | tcohen | bag++ |
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| 19:33 | cait | hi #koha |
| 19:48 | bag | hey cait |
| 19:52 | cait | hi bag |
| 20:09 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 20:10 | mtj | stupid dev question here... what techniques do people use to dump stuff to log files when debugging koha? |
| 20:10 | ..other that just the generic apache error.log file | |
| 20:11 | than | |
| 20:11 | cait | oh |
| 20:11 | bye tcohen | |
| 20:12 | mtj: normally using warns | |
| 20:12 | and that goes into the koha log files | |
| 20:12 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 20:12 | mtj | yeah... me too cait |
| 20:16 | i really need a way to turn off all that apache line noise stuff in the error.log | |
| 20:17 | i dont think i ever worked out how to do that! :) | |
| 20:18 | all the crap either side of the actual warn msg, itself | |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | line noise? |
| 20:19 | mtj | [Tue Nov 25 09:04:19 2014] [error] [client 192.168.10.107] XXXXX referer: http://master.xen1.kohaaloha.c[…]pl?frameworkcode= |
| 20:19 | [Tue Nov 25 09:04:19 2014] [error] [client 192.168.10.107] XXXXX referer: http://master.xen1.kohaaloha.c[…]pl?frameworkcode= | |
| 20:19 | [Tue Nov 25 09:04:19 2014] [error] [client 192.168.10.107] XXXXX referer: http://master.xen1.kohaaloha.c[…]pl?frameworkcode= | |
| 20:19 | ..all the stuff that is not 'XXXXX' ^ | |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | I'm sure the logfile definitions are in /etc/koha somewhere, in one of the shared |
| 20:19 | files | |
| 20:20 | a directive like "logformat" | |
| 20:20 | mtj | awesome :) |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | and if it's not there, it's probably in the apache config |
| 20:20 | you can specify your own logformat as well | |
| 20:22 | https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/logs.html might help (note, that's not really a "rtfm," it just looks like one - that's what I used the last time I was thinking about the contents of logs. | |
| 20:22 | mtj | ooh, i can almost taste the victory... |
| 20:23 | fwiw, i'm already on that page :) | |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 20:23 | mtj | well.. it was one of the many tabs i was reading thru... |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | but basically, what I'd do, is set up a logformat with just the things you want, give it a nickname |
| 20:26 | then make a CustomLog that uses that | |
| 20:27 | then you don't have to change the default ones. | |
| 20:27 | cait | hm need a sign off of for 13330 please |
| 20:27 | bug 13330 | |
| 20:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13330 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , All overdue items with fines returned via checkouts table will have fines forgiven! |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | O.o. |
| 20:28 | cait | yes exactly |
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| 20:46 | mtj | ive sort of just clicked on still on debian/apache 2.2, not 2.4 |
| 20:49 | no 'ErrorLogFormat' directive until 2.4 | |
| 20:59 | looks like its time to bump my box to apache2.4 :0) | |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | there's something similar for the older version though |
| 20:59 | I've used it... | |
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| 21:01 | mtj | hum really?!, the webs say its a no-go |
| 21:01 | http://serverfault.com/questio[…]r-log-in-apache-2 | |
| 21:01 | ahh... | |
| 21:01 | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/t[…]od_log_debug.html | |
| 21:02 | that perhaps? ^ | |
| 21:03 | * mtj | winces |
| 21:04 | mtj | hey, this has been a bugbear of mine for years |
| 21:06 | anyhoo, its great to hear its finally fkn fixed in 2.4 | |
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| 21:11 | mtj | aah, i do see a 'piped logs' example for 2.2 - that would actually work pretty ok :) |
| 21:11 | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/logs.html#piped | |
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| 21:16 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
| 21:19 | gah | |
| 21:19 | i have an item on my account... that is not on the record | |
| 21:19 | how??? | |
| 21:19 | but the title and all shows | |
| 21:20 | ok... so the record claims to not have physical items | |
| 21:20 | and the account claims it's a normal checkout | |
| 21:20 | whom to believe? | |
| 21:20 | kathryn | hallo cait :) |
| 21:21 | eythian | hi |
| 21:21 | cait | ok |
| 21:21 | the items table also agrees that the item is on the record | |
| 21:21 | so why... would the detai page claim no physical records? in staff? | |
| 21:22 | eythian | cait: I don't remember any situation where that should happen |
| 21:22 | cait | me neither |
| 21:22 | it#s quite scary | |
| 21:23 | he item is withdrawn... | |
| 21:23 | should that make a difference? | |
| 21:23 | in staff? | |
| 21:23 | eythian | I don't know, I shouldn't think so. |
| 21:23 | but maybe | |
| 21:23 | but I think that it should only ever not show up in staff if it's not there. | |
| 21:24 | cait | [Mon Nov 24 22:22:36.686597 2014] [cgi:error] [pid 24868] [client 127.0.0.1:41651] AH01215: [Mon Nov 24 22:22:36 2014] detail.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Not unique table/alias: 'issues' at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Items.pm line 1332., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]?borrowernumber=1 |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | there is a setting for withdrawn items |
| 21:26 | showing them in the staff client. | |
| 21:26 | cait | wizzyrea: it looks like all my items disappeared |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | all of them! |
| 21:26 | cait | could you check on your master install? a staff detail page? |
| 21:26 | where there shoudl be an item? | |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | hm mine are there. |
| 21:27 | cait | wizzyrea: which setting? |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | I"m looking hang on |
| 21:30 | not related: I like how we did this syspref: OpacAdvSearchMoreOptions | |
| 21:30 | cait | hm it's the patch from srdjan |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea: try an item checked out | |
| 21:30 | check it out and then check the detail page | |
| 21:31 | please | |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | sec |
| 21:32 | I see the items there | |
| 21:32 | cait | maybe it's related to the local use |
| 21:32 | mine def disappear | |
| 21:32 | they show up when i check them in again | |
| 21:32 | could you try an on-site checkout? there is a onsite pref to turn on | |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | just the one or both? |
| 21:33 | cait | you can turn on both, but the normal one should be enough |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | still ok |
| 21:33 | cait | hmmm |
| 21:33 | it works for me, but only if i remove the patch | |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | oh oh |
| 21:33 | cait | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4b7b8b1c33c64107f |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | no I didn't save it it's definitely to do with onsite. |
| 21:34 | cait | i think a side effect |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | no items when onsite is on |
| 21:34 | cait | *sigh* filing another blocker bug |
| 21:35 | removing the patch above fixes it for me - i think something was missed, the patch is old, onsite is new... boom | |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | yes, it must be because it doesn't cope with onsite. |
| 21:35 | can def call in papa for that one :) | |
| 21:36 | cait | it happens, filing a bug, will set a link to the other bug |
| 21:36 | maybe it can help track it down | |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | perhaps easiest to revert that for now |
| 21:39 | cait | dunno, maybe it#s an easy fix even |
| 21:39 | will have to leave that to more awake people tomorrow | |
| 21:40 | thx for helping test :) | |
| 21:40 | bug 13332 | |
| 21:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13332 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Items disappear from staff detail page when there is an on-site checkout |
| 22:06 | cait | found enough bugs for one night |
| 22:06 | bye all :) | |
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| 22:14 | dcook | morning |
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| 23:01 | tcohen | hi there |
| 23:07 | eythian | hi |
| 23:07 | btw I'm putting libtest-perl-critic-progressive-perl because that's where it should be | |
| 23:08 | tcohen | ah? |
| 23:08 | wahanui | ah is ? |
| 23:08 | eythian | it's needed for the qa tools |
| 23:08 | tcohen | mbeaulieu? |
| 23:12 | eythian | ? |
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| 23:49 | dcook | lol... |
| 23:49 | I'm looking at this email and totally confused by "LHS" and "RHS" | |
| 23:49 | I figure they're "hospital services" of some kind | |
| 23:49 | Nope. Left hand side. Right hand side. | |
| 23:50 | Only made sense once I read it outloud :p | |
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