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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:06 | dcook | Yeah, that's a lot of what I do :p |
| 00:07 | papa joined #koha | |
| 00:07 | dcook | I'll be glad when I'm done this OAI client so I can upstream it |
| 00:07 | Then hopefully work on upstreaming other changes... or work on fixing the query building | |
| 00:13 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 00:14 | wizzyrea | well it is just not every day you get a 500 error from youtube. |
| 00:16 | JesseM joined #koha | |
| 00:17 | JoshB joined #koha | |
| 00:19 | cait left #koha | |
| 00:20 | dcook | oh nose |
| 00:20 | someone broke the intertubes? | |
| 00:21 | bag | hey anyone have this problem? A SIP2 self-checkout isn't respecting the holidays entered on the calender (but like everything - it's sporadic - during time periods of the day) |
| 00:21 | dcook | bag: Haven't heard anything but you never know... |
| 00:21 | bag | hmmm... maybe the it's the time settings - you know JesseM like that 12hr vs 24hr |
| 00:21 | thing | |
| 00:22 | nah probably not | |
| 00:26 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 00:54 | dcook | wizzyrea: In addition to having "OVerdue notice/status triggers" move from Tools to Admin, it would be great to move "Notices & slips" too |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | yes, agreed |
| 00:54 | and configuring holidays | |
| 00:55 | dcook | Actually, there's a fair number of "tools" that aren't tools |
| 00:55 | wizzyrea | yes. |
| 00:55 | dcook | It might make more sense to break up the administration area into more distinct sub-categories |
| 00:55 | Rather than having one epic page | |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | Notices & slips, overdue notice/status triggers, calendar, csv profiles, task scheduler |
| 00:56 | dcook | The "Additional parameters" should probably be under "Catalog" as well.. |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | well not the task scheduler |
| 00:56 | dcook | The task scheduler is probably still a tool yeah |
| 00:56 | bag | I love THE epic! |
| 00:56 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | if it's "set up" it should be in admin |
| 00:57 | if it's "manage" it should be a tool. | |
| 00:57 | dcook | ^ |
| 00:57 | bag | oh whoops dcook I was off topic :P |
| 00:57 | * wizzyrea | thought of beer |
| 00:57 | dcook | Mmm beer |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | which probably says something about my state of mind today. |
| 00:57 | dcook | Although administration does imply administering |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | Administration -> Configuration |
| 00:58 | dcook | Ooooh |
| 00:58 | I like that | |
| 00:58 | wizzyrea | or Settings |
| 00:58 | wahanui | Settings are in there |
| 00:58 | bag | yeah beer sounds excellent - but I'm a month of no drinking which ends Saturday :D |
| 00:58 | dcook | All stuff that should be done once really |
| 00:58 | wizzyrea | well, nobody ever goes in there just once. |
| 00:58 | dcook | True. Things get tweaked over time. |
| 00:59 | wizzyrea | There would probably be a mutiny if we changed the name. |
| 00:59 | dcook | Sadly yes :( |
| 00:59 | wizzyrea | could do it in stages |
| 00:59 | move the tools, leave a message "hey, some things have moved, check in Administration" | |
| 01:00 | remove the message, change the name of administration to "settings" or something. | |
| 01:00 | only show the message to superlibrarians, etc. | |
| 01:00 | force a news item "hey, we did stuff" | |
| 01:01 | dcook | Not a bad idea |
| 01:02 | wizzyrea | good things about kombucha, it's tasty |
| 01:02 | dcook | Although as long as the help and manual are up-to-date.. |
| 01:02 | wizzyrea | bad things about kombucha... slimy blobby things. |
| 01:03 | wajasu | got to feed your motha |
| 01:03 | wizzyrea | on a related note, I am now covered in kombucha. |
| 01:03 | because that was a texture my mouth disagreed with. | |
| 01:04 | dcook | lol |
| 01:04 | wajasu | pour through a coffee filter if you don't like the growth |
| 01:04 | dcook | Can't say I've ever had it. Not sure I want to. |
| 01:04 | wizzyrea | wajasu: good advice |
| 01:05 | the one I'm having is feijoa flavoured, quite nice. | |
| 01:06 | wajasu | also if you want cheap grolsch style bottles to store it, look for some cheap similiar bottle at an ALDI (if you have them nearby) |
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| 01:09 | bag | alright later peeps - I'll be back for the meeting in a few hours - hopefully catch all you wonderful people tonight :D |
| 01:10 | wizzyrea | this is a commercial one |
| 01:10 | * wizzyrea | is not brave enough to make her own kombucha |
| 01:12 | ibeardslee | Wow .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kombucha ".. in rare cases, to serious side effects and deaths" |
| 01:12 | eythian | from spillage? |
| 01:12 | wajasu | imy 1st two batches got tainted and grew mold. smelled bad, so had to start over. third batch worked (used coffer filter over jar top). too much work and time. |
| 01:13 | eythian | it sounds terrible |
| 01:13 | and looks pretty gross too | |
| 01:13 | wizzyrea | I suspect this is why they put it in brown bottles. |
| 01:14 | this one I have is pretty ok though. | |
| 01:14 | to be honest, I didn't realise it was a real kombucha when I bought it | |
| 01:14 | I saw "feijoa" and my brain turned off. | |
| 01:15 | wajasu | i put my scoby in the fridge for next year :) |
| 01:15 | eythian | did you get it from haere mai? |
| 01:15 | that sounds like the sort of place you'd find something like that | |
| 01:15 | wizzyrea | no, from nic nacz |
| 01:15 | nic nacs | |
| 01:15 | they have many kinds of strange drinks. | |
| 01:22 | * dcook | will stick to his water and iced tea he thinks |
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| 01:42 | eythian | http://search.cpan.org/~ferrei[…]ib/Carp/Always.pm <-- oh handy |
| 01:44 | rangi | ohh yes that is handy |
| 01:54 | schnydszch | anybody here from biblibre? |
| 01:54 | rangi | id doubt it, given the time |
| 01:56 | wizzyrea | I certainly hope they are sleeping :) |
| 01:56 | schnydszch | it's okay I wanted to feel attending koha meeting. If my timer is right, that's three hours away right? |
| 01:56 | wizzyrea | 4 hours I think |
| 01:57 | eythian | wasn't it at 6 NZ time? Or was it 7? |
| 01:58 | rangi | it 0500 utc |
| 01:58 | so i think thats 6pm nz time | |
| 01:58 | and the next one is at 2100 | |
| 01:58 | we repeat them so people can attend one or the other | |
| 01:59 | wizzyrea | well gosh, when I said 4 hours I didn't realise it was 14:55, so you're right, 3 hours SORRY |
| 01:59 | rangi | i liked it better when we were +12 |
| 01:59 | easier to work out | |
| 01:59 | wizzyrea | my brain computer is broken today. |
| 02:00 | * wizzyrea | blames the kombucha |
| 02:01 | schnydszch | it's 10AM here, so that's gonna be 1PM |
| 02:02 | i saw that Kombucha wiki, when it says food and bacteria, did not read it further | |
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 02:09 | eythian | http://elasticsearch.koha.cata[…]koha/opac-main.pl <-- there is now an elasticsearch server up and running |
| 02:10 | wizzyrea | oh look at that it even works! |
| 02:11 | * dcook | takes a gander |
| 02:11 | dcook | "It's gonna be weird." |
| 02:11 | hehe | |
| 02:12 | I really hope I'm able to find time someday to switch us over to using the QueryParser... | |
| 02:12 | Although I think that would make life potentially harder for eythian | |
| 02:12 | Or possibly easier I suppose | |
| 02:12 | eythian | hmm, well if you fit into my querybuilder api, then it's all good :) |
| 02:13 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:13 | I guess so | |
| 02:13 | I'm really keen to find a way to make QP work without requiring any syntactical changes in the templates | |
| 02:13 | (while also supporting the QP syntax) | |
| 02:14 | Or if I need to make those changes, I want to do them soon so that it's not an issue for ES | |
| 02:22 | wizzyrea | one thing I've noticed, search "fish" order by author a-z - why is Big Fish result 2? |
| 02:22 | mtj | woah, awesome eythian :0) |
| 02:22 | eythian | wizzyrea: because august comes after adams |
| 02:22 | It's the alphabet ;) | |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | mmm but why august and not wallace? |
| 02:23 | eythian | Because it has multiple authors, and it's sorting them as well, I guess. |
| 02:23 | (it splits them up for indexing.) | |
| 02:24 | wizzyrea | aha, interesting |
| 02:24 | I accept your explanation, assert that it will still befuddle librarians. | |
| 02:24 | eythian | oh, it sorts them according to the sort request |
| 02:24 | so if you invert the sort, it comes first still | |
| 02:24 | probably because of Zanuck Company | |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 02:25 | dcook | Tricksy |
| 02:25 | eythian | well, it's not a terribly hard thing to change if we want to. |
| 02:25 | dcook | Yeah, there's really no reason to privilege August over Wallace |
| 02:25 | cjh | so it is always sorting by the best case, heh |
| 02:25 | eythian | cjh: exactly |
| 02:25 | * eythian | steals that phrasing |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | is that the kind of thing you want us to point out? |
| 02:25 | * wizzyrea | wants to be helpful, and not annoying |
| 02:26 | eythian | eventually perhaps, probably not right now |
| 02:26 | wizzyrea | what is helpful now? |
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| 02:26 | eythian | I think it's more useful when almost everything is done and there's just polish needed |
| 02:26 | hmm | |
| 02:26 | code that makes authority searching work ;) | |
| 02:27 | wizzyrea | what I'm hearing is "keep your grubby hands off of it and be quiet until I say do stuff" |
| 02:27 | in nicer words. | |
| 02:27 | :) | |
| 02:27 | eythian | roughly :) though, I might create a thing for little weirdnesses like that, so do bring them to my attention. |
| 02:27 | also like the broader/narrower/related subject searches not working | |
| 02:27 | wizzyrea | yeah, I noticed that one |
| 02:27 | eythian | (which is odd, I thought I'd implemented that) |
| 02:28 | wizzyrea | and I noticed there were no authority searches :P |
| 02:28 | eythian | yeah, they should be getting indexed, but not searched yet |
| 02:29 | wizzyrea | hm, this test data should be sure to have some items that aren't available |
| 02:29 | mtj | interesting -> http://www.elasticsearch.org/g[…]ang-analyzer.html |
| 02:29 | eythian | the database has no users currently, so that's tricky :) |
| 02:29 | feel free to fix that if you want :) | |
| 02:29 | wizzyrea | I MAY JUST. :) |
| 02:30 | eythian | mtj: I'd be interested in experimenting with that |
| 02:30 | mtj | yeah, an impressive list already |
| 02:34 | dcook | Hmm, how many records in this catalogue, eythian? |
| 02:34 | ~500? | |
| 02:34 | eythian | 8679 |
| 02:34 | hmm | |
| 02:34 | dcook | Ahh |
| 02:34 | eythian | 8639 |
| 02:34 | dcook | 8639 |
| 02:34 | Just tried a local-number:* | |
| 02:35 | eythian | the database count and the number indexed differ. |
| 02:35 | dcook | Z for Zachariah, eh? |
| 02:35 | Weird book | |
| 02:35 | eythian | That might be important |
| 02:35 | dcook | Maybe :) |
| 02:36 | Hmm, what sort of speed differences should there be? | |
| 02:36 | I'm getting 8639 results in about 5 seconds with ES | |
| 02:37 | Getting 19897 results in about 5 seconds with Zebra on a different system | |
| 02:37 | eythian | probably not much, koha itself will have a bigger overhead. |
| 02:37 | this is not a production ES install running here :) | |
| 02:37 | dcook | Excellent |
| 02:37 | wizzyrea | that probably has more to do with the hardware :P |
| 02:37 | dcook | Those were my two thoughts as well :) |
| 02:38 | * dcook | wants an extra server at work just for him to play with... |
| 02:38 | mtj | eythian: wow, it looks like ES can use lucene lanaguage-analyzers too |
| 02:38 | dcook | ES is pretty rad |
| 02:38 | eythian | ES requires three servers for production |
| 02:38 | well, a minimum of three | |
| 02:39 | dcook | ^I've been wondering about that |
| 02:39 | Why's that? | |
| 02:39 | eythian | data safety, mostly |
| 02:39 | dcook | I was just about to ask besides redundnacy |
| 02:39 | eythian | it's less important for Koha where you can regenerate everything |
| 02:39 | it'll also be faster under load | |
| 02:39 | well, that's just saying it'll scale better | |
| 02:39 | which it will | |
| 02:39 | dcook | Hence all the load balancing stuff you've been doing as well, eh? |
| 02:40 | Would love that.. | |
| 02:40 | eythian | Nah, ES does it automagically. |
| 02:40 | dcook | Oooo :D |
| 02:40 | eythian | That's planning for it in a cloudy cloud type environment |
| 02:40 | dcook | I would love that for some of our million record catalogues.. |
| 02:40 | Righto | |
| 02:40 | eythian | yeah, it'd be good on them |
| 02:41 | I'd like to make the indexer multithreaded to work well on big systems | |
| 02:41 | dcook | So in production you'd have three dedicated ES servers? |
| 02:41 | eythian | I'm not going to just yet though |
| 02:41 | yeah | |
| 02:41 | maybe not for koha, but in general for ES | |
| 02:42 | if we ever put things into ES that are only in ES, then definitely | |
| 02:42 | dcook | Yeah, using ES for storage would be interesting |
| 02:42 | I think the paranoia in me would struggle with it a bit | |
| 02:43 | Yet not having records in a million places... | |
| 02:43 | * dcook | looks in biblioitems |
| 02:43 | dcook | We still have the MARC blob, eh.. |
| 02:43 | * dcook | wishes that he could scale himself |
| 02:43 | dcook | Three dedicated dcooks |
| 02:44 | eythian | heh |
| 02:44 | yes, we still have MARC there | |
| 02:44 | dcook | I can never remember what that one is for |
| 02:55 | It's actually kind of neat harvesting records from several different Koha instances per day via OAI... | |
| 02:55 | Some might only add/edit a couple records, and some are crazy busy... | |
| 02:57 | Hmm... no idea why these records are getting selected now though.. | |
| 02:58 | Mmm biblioitems timestamp isn't the same as the biblio timestamp | |
| 03:04 | bug 11891 | |
| 03:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Make Koha::Schema use C4::Context->dbh |
| 03:08 | dcook | bug 12725 |
| 03:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12725 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Show RDA tag 264 on Intranet Results and Detail XSLT view (MARC21) |
| 03:08 | dcook | Huh.. |
| 03:09 | wizzyrea | hm, if you turn off email in Koha, does it still email lists and things, or does it not send any email at all? Also, how did I not know this before. |
| 03:10 | dcook | wizzyrea: That's a good question |
| 03:10 | I mean the first question | |
| 03:10 | wizzyrea | hehe I read the intent of that :) |
| 03:10 | rangi | lists will still go |
| 03:11 | eythian | there are some things that don't use the mail queue |
| 03:11 | some bad, naughty things | |
| 03:11 | rangi | anything that doesnt use the queue |
| 03:11 | lists/carts | |
| 03:11 | i think is about it nowadays | |
| 03:11 | eythian | passwords |
| 03:12 | rangi | ah yeah, we should just accidentally stop it sending those at all |
| 03:12 | or at least timelimit them | |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea | passwords! |
| 03:12 | oh. right selfreg. | |
| 03:12 | rangi | self reg is tokens |
| 03:12 | its the feature you can switch on | |
| 03:12 | for staff side | |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea | oh right |
| 03:12 | rangi | that emails people when you make their account |
| 03:12 | its bad wrong and evil | |
| 03:13 | dcook | bug 12725 looks weird... |
| 03:13 | * wizzyrea | imagines rangi slipping with his code scalpel "oops I nuked your password sendy-thing!" |
| 03:13 | rangi | but at least its off by default |
| 03:13 | wizzyrea | yeah true. |
| 03:13 | so bad and wrong. | |
| 03:13 | ok thank you all for your excellent advice. | |
| 03:13 | * dcook | doesn't want to know how many people have it turned on.. |
| 03:13 | dcook | The password thing not the 264 thing |
| 03:14 | rangi | if you really wanted all mail off, you could switch off postfix :-) |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea | suggestion mails I reckon wouldn't go out |
| 03:14 | those are queued. | |
| 03:14 | and hold placed emails | |
| 03:14 | rangi | yeah |
| 03:14 | yep | |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea | right thanks |
| 03:16 | dcook | rangi: Did you get Koha::Email in? |
| 03:16 | I thought I saw it the other day | |
| 03:17 | rangi | yep, it should be in master now |
| 03:17 | all it does is handle the headers so far | |
| 03:17 | return path, reply to, from etc | |
| 03:17 | but it does it consistently | |
| 03:17 | wizzyrea | and boy do we like consistency |
| 03:20 | bag | hola |
| 03:20 | wahanui | niihau, bag |
| 03:20 | wajasu | hopefully it will set the charset to utf8 for header Subject, and Attachment filename. |
| 03:21 | rangi | yep |
| 03:21 | wajasu | yeah! |
| 03:26 | dcook | Coool beans :) |
| 03:26 | Cool* | |
| 03:26 | No three Os in this house | |
| 03:26 | which is actually an office... | |
| 03:28 | All right, I'm going to experiment more with DBIC | |
| 03:28 | Whenever we talk about DBIC and kohastructure.sql, we say "for now", but I don't know if anyone is actually planning to deprecate kohastructure.sql... | |
| 03:35 | Hmm, not as automagical as one would hope | |
| 03:41 | wizzyrea | ^ probably explains it's lack of wide adoption |
| 03:42 | dcook | Oh, I meant in terms of deploying the schema |
| 03:42 | DBIC itself is actually pretty decent :) | |
| 03:42 | A bit scary at first | |
| 03:47 | Hmm, looks like the deploy() method generates the SQL... | |
| 03:48 | But that would just be to dump the whole schema I think | |
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| 03:48 | amit_ | heya chris_n |
| 03:48 | hi rangi | |
| 03:49 | dcook | Oooh. I see that we have the Perl module there... |
| 03:52 | No idea why we have a Koha::Schema and a Koha::Database... | |
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| 03:53 | AmitG | chris around? |
| 03:53 | mtj | hey #koha, is there a good koha-master for testing, on the webs? |
| 03:53 | AmitG | hi mtj |
| 03:54 | mtj | yo AmitG |
| 03:55 | mtompset | Koha::Email? |
| 03:55 | mtj | ill try the BL vm's - for a start |
| 03:56 | does anyone have problems with the shelfbrowser in bootstrap, for non-EN langs? | |
| 03:56 | opac shelfbrowser, specifically | |
| 03:58 | the left/right buttons are giving me 500 errors | |
| 03:58 | "NetworkError: 500 Internal Server Error - http://mykohaxxx/cgi-bin/koha/svc/shelfbrowser.pl" | |
| 03:58 | eythian | that's not something I would expect bootstrap to cause |
| 03:59 | mtompset | I would check log files if you are getting a 500. |
| 03:59 | eythian | dcook: oh, apparently we are getting rid of biblioitems.marc |
| 03:59 | * mtj | switches themes... |
| 03:59 | mtompset | getting rid of biblioitems.marcxml?! |
| 03:59 | dcook | eythian: sweeeet |
| 04:00 | mtompset | how? |
| 04:00 | wajasu | whoa! |
| 04:00 | eythian | mtompset: try re-reading |
| 04:00 | dcook | Darn, eythian |
| 04:00 | I was going to say after we invert the OPAC | |
| 04:00 | eythian | heh |
| 04:00 | dcook | Or dismantle the flux capacitor :p |
| 04:00 | eythian | sorry :) |
| 04:00 | mtompset | oh. |
| 04:00 | dcook | Although getting rid of biblioitems.marcxml would be cool too... |
| 04:00 | * mtompset | is pleased at a duplication removal. |
| 04:01 | dcook | I think I see the purpose of Koha::Database now as handling the connection.. |
| 04:01 | mtompset | dcook: The problem with everyone having different standards is you need a place to dump values that don't make it to fields. |
| 04:01 | mtj | hum, bug happens with prog theme too |
| 04:01 | dcook | mtompset: O_o? |
| 04:03 | mtompset | Every possible MARC field/subfield is not represented in the physical data structures. |
| 04:03 | marcxml is a good catchall. | |
| 04:03 | dcook | o_O |
| 04:04 | Sorry. Not following. I'm going to go try to explode my server now :) | |
| 04:05 | Hmm, depending on which documentation I choose to follow... | |
| 04:05 | mtompset | Liblime's? ;) |
| 04:06 | dcook | nah, it's all DBIC documentation |
| 04:06 | But the Cookbook seems slightly different to the POD for the classes | |
| 04:06 | I think I get it though | |
| 04:06 | Seems a shame not to take more advantage of DBIC for managing upgrades | |
| 04:07 | Mmm, I think I understand now | |
| 04:07 | create_ddl_dir() will give you a dump of the whole database | |
| 04:08 | But if you've included verisons in your code, and in the method call, you can get "diffs" for upgrading too | |
| 04:08 | Which can be managed more automagically by DBIx::Class::Schema::Versioned | |
| 04:08 | Or in a pinch, manually | |
| 04:10 | All right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W6as8oVcuM | |
| 04:11 | Bollocks | |
| 04:11 | DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::create_ddl_dir(): Can't create a ddl file without SQL::Translator >= 0.11016 | |
| 04:11 | I had a feeling that might be a problem | |
| 04:11 | eythian | not bollocks, butts. |
| 04:11 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:11 | indeed! | |
| 04:11 | I should really keep my story straight | |
| 04:14 | I foresee perhaps one other problem... but fingers crossed | |
| 04:14 | Hmm, no warnings or errors, but that was too fast... | |
| 04:14 | Then again.. | |
| 04:15 | mtj | well... i cant replicate my bug on BL koha (3.17.00.016) |
| 04:16 | bootstrap and IT lang - thats good :) | |
| 04:16 | dcook | Hmm, I wonder how it decides what order to do.. |
| 04:17 | 480 differences between the dumped file and kohastructure.sql | |
| 04:17 | But how many are just because they're in different spots in the document.. | |
| 04:18 | eythian | mtj: see the link to Carp::Always I posted, run the script from the command line with that loaded, it'll give you a stack trace when it dies. |
| 04:19 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 04:20 | mtj | will do eythian |
| 04:20 | dcook | I suppose the way to do it would be to create a new schema using this dump... then dump it using mysql and see how that compares against kohastructure.sql... |
| 04:20 | Oak | @seen tcohen |
| 04:20 | huginn | Oak: tcohen was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 28 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <tcohen> jcamins++ # liguistic aid |
| 04:20 | dcook | maybe |
| 04:20 | mtj | fyi, i cant see your previous post eythian |
| 04:20 | Oak | tcohen++ |
| 04:20 | eythian | <eythian> http://search.cpan.org/~ferrei[…]ib/Carp/Always.pm <-- oh handy |
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| 04:21 | * Oak | waves |
| 04:21 | mtj | ah, i see it now :) |
| 04:22 | ebegin joined #koha | |
| 04:24 | * mtompset | waves back to Oak. |
| 04:27 | mtompset | Did anyone see my inquiry that circles about C4::Letters::EnqueueLetter? |
| 04:27 | mtj | does anyone have a method for building langs, for a koha-gitify koha? |
| 04:28 | mtompset | wouldn't it be the same after you make it a git? |
| 04:33 | RTerrenal joined #koha | |
| 04:34 | mtj | nah, koha-translate doesnt work for gitify setup |
| 04:34 | ...assumes /usr/share/koha | |
| 04:35 | dcook | Hmm, I don't think SQL::Translator likes "double precision" in itemtypes... |
| 04:35 | RTerrenal | hello everyone |
| 04:39 | mtompset | Greetings, RTerrenal. :) |
| 04:39 | Glad to see you online here, Ryan. :) | |
| 04:40 | mtj | looks like koha-translate could be patched to take non-default paths, pretty easily |
| 04:40 | hiya RTerrenal | |
| 04:41 | mtompset | Ryan, where's Eugene? |
| 04:43 | RTerrenal | idk |
| 04:43 | Oak | wdk |
| 04:45 | mtompset | He said he is here, but I don't know his nickname. |
| 04:46 | Hopefully we can pull in a Filipino contingent today. :) | |
| 04:47 | bag | :) |
| 04:48 | mtompset | Ryan, have you read the agenda for the meeting? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_19_November_2014 |
| 04:48 | RTerrenal | reading now |
| 04:54 | mtj | how do people feel about getting the koha-* CLI tools working with koha-gitify? |
| 04:54 | mtompset | I'm indifferent, though I can see a benefit for those who actually use koha-gitify. |
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| 04:56 | * cait | waves |
| 04:57 | bag | heya cait |
| 04:58 | kris joined #koha | |
| 04:58 | cait | heya |
| 04:58 | are we having a meeting or can i go back to sleep? :) | |
| 04:59 | bag | I think we are having a meeting |
| 04:59 | cait | :) |
| 04:59 | mtompset | I count 1 minute to meeting plus or minus a minute. :) |
| 04:59 | cait | ok |
| 04:59 | i better go look for the agenda :) | |
| 05:00 | bag | cait http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_19_November_2014 |
| 05:00 | cait | thanks bag |
| 05:01 | dcook | Man DBIC... |
| 05:01 | Ahhh | |
| 05:01 | Change the code dcook...not the POD | |
| 05:01 | wahanui | dcook: that doesn't look right |
| 05:02 | mtompset | cait: Are you chairing? |
| 05:03 | cait | i think i can |
| 05:03 | if noone else more awake wants to :) | |
| 05:03 | Oak | did you brush your teeth? |
| 05:03 | mtompset | It's midnight here. Not I. :) |
| 05:03 | cait | 6 am here |
| 05:03 | sshhh Oak | |
| 05:03 | :) | |
| 05:03 | ok | |
| 05:03 | Oak | :) |
| 05:03 | manny joined #koha | |
| 05:04 | dcook | (Damned "double precision" will stop create_ddl_dir() from doing a SQL diff...) |
| 05:04 | cait | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1 |
| 05:04 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Nov 19 05:04:15 2014 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 05:04 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 05:04 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 05:04 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_19_november_2014___part_1' |
| 05:04 | cait | #topic introductions |
| 05:04 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 05:04 | Topic for #koha is now introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 05:04 | cait | hi, please all introduce yourself with #info |
| 05:04 | mtompset | #info Mark Tompsett, Canadian contributor. |
| 05:04 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater |
| 05:05 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
| 05:05 | BobB | #info Bob Birchall, Calyx Australia |
| 05:05 | dcook | #info David Cook, Prosentient Systems |
| 05:05 | cait | ok, small meeting :) |
| 05:05 | * mtompset | pokes RTerrenal and manny |
| 05:05 | BobB | hi all, I just came in |
| 05:05 | * cait | waits for a moment |
| 05:05 | manny | #info Manny, I am Koha- Philippines |
| 05:06 | Oak | #info Arslan Farooq, Pakistan |
| 05:06 | bag | heya BobB |
| 05:06 | BobB | :) |
| 05:06 | * mtompset | pokes RTerrenal |
| 05:06 | clint_ joined #koha | |
| 05:07 | cait | hi clint_ - here for the meeting? |
| 05:07 | * cait | waits a moment longer for #info s |
| 05:07 | clint_ | yes |
| 05:07 | #info Clint Anact | |
| 05:07 | * BobB | pokes mtj |
| 05:07 | cait | :) ok movig on |
| 05:07 | poked people can do their infos later :) | |
| 05:08 | #topic Announcements | |
| 05:08 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 05:08 | RTerrenal | #info Ryan Terrenal National library of the Philippines |
| 05:08 | mtj | #info Mason James, NZ |
| 05:08 | cait | any announcements? :) |
| 05:08 | #topic Update on releases (3.8 - 3.18) | |
| 05:08 | Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (3.8 - 3.18) (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 05:09 | mtompset | tcohen did an awesome video? |
| 05:09 | cait | right :) |
| 05:09 | Oak | yes! |
| 05:09 | cait | does someone have the link for an #info? |
| 05:09 | dcook | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]&feature=youtu.be |
| 05:09 | * dcook | isn't sure how you want to add that officially :) |
| 05:10 | cait | #info Koha, a community - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]&feature=youtu.be A video made during KohaCon14 in Argentina got published yesterday |
| 05:10 | me neither, hope that's ok | |
| 05:11 | ok, do we have any release managers or maints around? | |
| 05:11 | bag | cait++ |
| 05:11 | cait | #info String Freeze for 3.18 is on 20th this week |
| 05:11 | #info Release 3.18 is on 28th next week | |
| 05:12 | #info There is a list of critical bugs to be solved before release on the wiki: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ritical_circ_bugs | |
| 05:12 | ... and also 3.18 is gonna rock :) | |
| 05:12 | Oak | Amen. |
| 05:13 | cait | anything else? |
| 05:13 | bag | I'd like it if someone could look at http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 |
| 05:13 | huginn | 04Bug 11998: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues |
| 05:13 | cait | #info bug 11998 is waiting for sign off - syspref caching issues |
| 05:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues |
| 05:13 | bag | that should maybe be the last thing that we need for perhaps running the staff-side safely on plack |
| 05:13 | cait | would it be ok if we did the elections next? |
| 05:14 | schnydszch | #info Eugene Espinoza House of Representatives Library |
| 05:14 | cait | i'd like to get those done before discussing the other topics |
| 05:14 | bag | sure thing |
| 05:14 | mtj | go for it cait |
| 05:14 | cait | ok :) |
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| 05:15 | cait | #topic Elections! |
| 05:15 | Topic for #koha is now Elections! (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 05:15 | mtompset | Is there a page listing people? |
| 05:15 | cait | #info Nominations are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.20 |
| 05:15 | you will all notice... we still lack a 3.16 rmaint | |
| 05:16 | #info Wanted: 3.16 Release maintainer | |
| 05:16 | but as the release is next week ... I think we should still vote :) | |
| 05:16 | any preference on how to vote? | |
| 05:17 | the usual? i put the names and everyone +1 -1? | |
| 05:17 | mtompset | sounds good to me. |
| 05:17 | cait | so let's get started then :) |
| 05:17 | Oak | yes. raising hands won't work sadly. |
| 05:17 | cait | First, I am very happy that we got tcohen to do it again :) |
| 05:17 | bag | +1 for them all - no objections |
| 05:17 | cait | tcohen++ |
| 05:17 | Oak | tcohen++ |
| 05:17 | bag | yes |
| 05:17 | tcohen++ | |
| 05:17 | cait | Vote for Release manager please - candidate is Tomas Cohen Arazi |
| 05:18 | mtompset | tcohen++ # most assuredly. |
| 05:18 | cait | +1 ! |
| 05:18 | Oak | +1 |
| 05:18 | bag | +1 |
| 05:18 | mtompset | +1 |
| 05:18 | BobB | +1 |
| 05:18 | clint_ | +1 |
| 05:18 | schnydszch | +1 |
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| 05:18 | RTerrenal | +1 |
| 05:19 | cait | #agreed Meeting part 1 elects Tomas Cohen Arazi for release manager of 3.20 |
| 05:19 | Please vote for the listed Release Maintainers - we got 3.18 - Chris Cormack and 3.14 Fridolin Somers (cont.) | |
| 05:20 | mtompset | +1 for both. |
| 05:20 | cait | is that ok, if we do a group vote? |
| 05:20 | +1 +1 for me as well, no objections :) | |
| 05:20 | mtompset | Unless someone objects, I don't see why not. |
| 05:20 | Oak | +1 +1 |
| 05:21 | bag | +1 +1 |
| 05:21 | clint_ | +1 +1 |
| 05:21 | BobB | +2 :) |
| 05:21 | cait | #agreed Release Maintainers: 3.18 - Chris Cormack and 3.14 - Fridolin Somers |
| 05:22 | Next are the module maintainers, please refer to the wiki for those :) | |
| 05:22 | any questions for comments before we vote? | |
| 05:22 | mtompset | Who is PP? |
| 05:22 | cait | siileeence :) |
| 05:22 | paul_p | |
| 05:23 | bag | no objection |
| 05:23 | cait | Please vote on the module maintainers as listed on the wiki (auth, sip, holds, patron privacy) |
| 05:23 | BobB | +1 to all |
| 05:24 | clint_ | no objection |
| 05:24 | bag | +1 |
| 05:24 | cait | +1 to all from me too |
| 05:24 | Oak | +1 to all |
| 05:24 | cait | especially happy about patron privacy and sip :) |
| 05:24 | mtompset | What other work has Colin done? |
| 05:24 | cait | (sip tends to get stuck a bit) |
| 05:25 | bag | colin has done a lot with SIP |
| 05:25 | cait | colin works for ptfs europe, he has some plumbing/architecture patches in too, improving code |
| 05:25 | bag | he was a QA person awhile ago too |
| 05:25 | cait | yep, even qa manager |
| 05:25 | bag | yeah |
| 05:26 | cait | he usually comments on the sip patches too |
| 05:26 | mtompset | Okay, then I'm all in. :) +1 to all. |
| 05:26 | cait | #agreed Module Maintainers: Martin Renvoize (Auth), Colin Campbell (SIP), Kyle M Hall (Holds), Galen Charlton (Patron Privacy) |
| 05:26 | moving on | |
| 05:26 | Translation manager - comments or questions? | |
| 05:26 | schnydszch | +1 to all also no objection |
| 05:27 | cait | Please vote on Translation manager - Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel |
| 05:27 | +1 :) | |
| 05:27 | bag | +1 go bernardo ! |
| 05:27 | mtompset | +1 to everything... until we hit QA team. :) |
| 05:27 | cait | oh? |
| 05:27 | Oak | +1 |
| 05:27 | mtompset | I have a question about the QA team, that's all. nothing negative. :) |
| 05:28 | cait | BobB, mtj - where is Australia? :) |
| 05:28 | mtj | next to NZ :p |
| 05:29 | hey cait, i would be happy to do 3.16 RMaint role | |
| 05:29 | bag | mtj++ |
| 05:29 | awesome | |
| 05:29 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag |
| 05:29 | mtompset | Really?! |
| 05:29 | bag | +1 |
| 05:29 | mtompset | mtj++ # stepping it up nicely! |
| 05:29 | BobB | +1 |
| 05:29 | mtompset | +1 |
| 05:29 | cait | #agreed Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel |
| 05:29 | mtj: do you want to add yourself to the wiki? | |
| 05:29 | mtompset | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.20 |
| 05:29 | mtj | yes, will do cait |
| 05:30 | Oak | i can do it so mtj can focus on the meeting? |
| 05:30 | cait | i will just continue and put you at the end - in case you change your mind ;) |
| 05:30 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 05:30 | mtj | ok for me Oak :) |
| 05:30 | cait | i'd like to vote documentation togehter, that ok? |
| 05:30 | Oak | ok :) |
| 05:30 | mtompset | nicole is the queen of documentation. +1 |
| 05:31 | cait | So please vote for (Database) Documentation manager, candidate is Nicole Engard |
| 05:31 | bag | +1 |
| 05:31 | cait | +1 |
| 05:31 | clint_ | +1 |
| 05:31 | manny | +1 |
| 05:31 | RTerrenal | +1 |
| 05:31 | schnydszch | very much +1 for Nicole Engard |
| 05:31 | BobB | +1 |
| 05:31 | Oak | +1 |
| 05:31 | cait | #agreed (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard |
| 05:31 | #chair bag | |
| 05:31 | huginn | Current chairs: bag cait |
| 05:32 | * cait | hands voting for qa over to bag ;) |
| 05:32 | bag | umm ok |
| 05:32 | * cait | pokes bag |
| 05:32 | BobB | Good procedure Koha, ++ |
| 05:33 | bag | Please vote on the Quality Assurance (QA) Manager - Katrin Fischer |
| 05:33 | mtompset | cait++ # nice removing conflict of interest. |
| 05:33 | BobB | +1 |
| 05:33 | bag | +1 |
| 05:33 | mtompset | +1 -- like that is hard to vote on. :) |
| 05:33 | schnydszch | +1 |
| 05:33 | manny | +1 |
| 05:34 | RTerrenal | +1 |
| 05:34 | bag | #agreed Quality Assurance (QA) Manager - Katrin Fischer |
| 05:35 | please vote for the whole team for --> Quality Assurance (QA) Team | |
| 05:35 | schnydszch | i saw some of the QA in the very nice video produced by UNC (Argentina) |
| 05:35 | bag | (pasting in names - one sec) |
| 05:35 | mtompset | Just a quick question. |
| 05:35 | bag | Marcel de Rooy (continuing) |
| 05:35 | Jonathan Druart (continuing) | |
| 05:35 | Paul Poulain (continuing) | |
| 05:35 | Christopher Brannon (would like to be considered) | |
| 05:35 | Brendan Gallagher (continuing - some months stronger than others ;) ) | |
| 05:35 | Martin Renvoize (continuing) | |
| 05:35 | Kyle M Hall (continuing) | |
| 05:35 | yes go ahead mtompset | |
| 05:35 | mtompset | The "would like to be considered" |
| 05:36 | What does it take to be considered for QA? how long should you have worked on/with Koha? | |
| 05:36 | cait | ah forgot bag is also on the list - so much for the plan :) |
| 05:36 | i think we don't have a strict rule currently | |
| 05:36 | * rangi | is sorta here dealing with kids |
| 05:37 | bag | IMO mtompset I think as long as you volunteer - then lets give it a shot |
| 05:37 | cait | i think a decent amount of sign offs before would be good |
| 05:37 | but we all shoudl do sign offs... right? :) | |
| 05:37 | mtompset | AMEN! |
| 05:37 | We should all do signoffs. | |
| 05:37 | bag | I've learned more when I vounteered to be a QA person |
| 05:37 | rangi | All the qa team including Christopher Brannon have my vote |
| 05:38 | Bbiab | |
| 05:38 | bag | he wants to start small - not QAing the large patches - but the smaller ones |
| 05:38 | mtompset | Okay, given that clarified criteria, and rangi's vote of confidence... I'm +1 for all. |
| 05:38 | BobB | and RM has final call |
| 05:38 | cait | I am quite happy with the list |
| 05:38 | bag | no vote |
| 05:38 | cait | :) |
| 05:38 | i think i can? +1 :) | |
| 05:39 | bag | yes you can :D |
| 05:39 | BobB | QA team +1 |
| 05:39 | bag | objections? |
| 05:39 | mtompset | Nope. :) |
| 05:39 | cait | i will start typing :) |
| 05:39 | clint_ | no objection |
| 05:39 | BobB | no objections |
| 05:39 | mtj | +1 for all |
| 05:39 | bag | #agreed Quality Assurance (QA) Team (all listed on the wiki) |
| 05:40 | cait | #agreed QA team: Marcel de Rooy, Jonathan Druart, Paul Poulain, Christopher Brannon, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize, Kyle M Hall |
| 05:40 | bag | #chair cait |
| 05:40 | huginn | Current chairs: bag cait |
| 05:40 | cait | i am still :) |
| 05:40 | bag | oh yeah :P |
| 05:40 | mtompset | then how do you unchair? |
| 05:40 | cait | Please vote on Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat |
| 05:40 | BobB | +1 |
| 05:40 | cait | mtompset: i odn't know, but you can have a list of people chairing |
| 05:40 | mtompset | +1 -- eythian rocks. |
| 05:40 | cait | +1 |
| 05:40 | clint_ | +1 |
| 05:40 | bag | +1 |
| 05:40 | Oak | +1 |
| 05:41 | bag | #dechair |
| 05:41 | HA! | |
| 05:41 | cait | #agreed Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat |
| 05:41 | BobB | #standup? |
| 05:41 | bag | BobB++ |
| 05:41 | cait | Last but not least before we go back to the top: Bug Wranglers |
| 05:41 | Plase vote: Bug Wrangler - Magnus Enger | |
| 05:42 | bag | oh yeah!!! +1 magnuse! |
| 05:42 | Oak | +1 |
| 05:42 | RTerrenal | +1 |
| 05:42 | cait | +1 :) |
| 05:42 | mtompset | +1 |
| 05:42 | BobB | magnuse +1 |
| 05:42 | cait | #agreed Bug Wrangler: Magnus Enger |
| 05:42 | rangi | +1 |
| 05:42 | mtompset | Reading the job description, every so often, I guess I feel like one. |
| 05:43 | cait | mtompset: that might be right :) |
| 05:43 | do you want to add yourself? | |
| 05:43 | mtompset | Nah. I can't commit. |
| 05:43 | mtj | aah, # unchair -> http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html |
| 05:43 | manny | + 1 mtompset |
| 05:43 | mtompset | Conflict of interest, manny. :P |
| 05:44 | cait | hm don't see mtj on the wiki yet? |
| 05:44 | mtompset | I do. |
| 05:44 | Oak | added him here http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.20 |
| 05:44 | cait | ok, my browser was being werid |
| 05:44 | all good | |
| 05:44 | Oak | :) |
| 05:44 | cait | so please vote on rmaint for 3.16 - candidate is Mason James |
| 05:44 | bag | +1 for mtj for 3.16 |
| 05:45 | mtompset | And yes... +1 for mtj as 3.16 |
| 05:45 | cait | +1 |
| 05:45 | Oak | +1 |
| 05:45 | BobB | +1 |
| 05:45 | rangi | +1 |
| 05:45 | clint_ | +1 |
| 05:45 | RTerrenal | +1 |
| 05:45 | mtompset | Because it would be super weird to not have a 3.16 RM. :) |
| 05:45 | cait | #agreed Release Maintainer 3.16: Mason James |
| 05:45 | bag | yeah that would |
| 05:45 | mtj | heh, indeed mtompset :0) |
| 05:45 | cait | first part of the meeting is done with elections now :) |
| 05:45 | we almost got a release team! | |
| 05:46 | koha++ | |
| 05:46 | #topic Establish a roat map for Koha | |
| 05:46 | Topic for #koha is now Establish a roat map for Koha (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 05:46 | cait | sec |
| 05:46 | #topic Establish a road map for Koha | |
| 05:46 | Topic for #koha is now Establish a road map for Koha (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 05:46 | mtompset | ^roat^road^ |
| 05:46 | cait | can't leave that typo in |
| 05:46 | mtompset | :) |
| 05:46 | cait | BobB: do you want to explain a bit? |
| 05:46 | BobB | this arose on the sidelines of KohaCon14 |
| 05:47 | we used to have release specific roadmaps, like this: | |
| 05:47 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Roadmap_to_3.12 | |
| 05:47 | but if features were held up it got messy | |
| 05:47 | so now | |
| 05:47 | cait | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Roadmap_to_3.12 |
| 05:48 | BobB | #info the idea is to have a road map that is not time linked, |
| 05:48 | #info not linked to any one release | |
| 05:48 | so it becomes a bit of a strategic plan for the code, if you like | |
| 05:49 | #info so people can see what is coming up, but not necessarily when it might get there | |
| 05:49 | cait | so more.. general things we work towards to than a schedule? |
| 05:50 | mtompset | functionality plans? |
| 05:50 | BobB | #info The suggestion is to include both proposed new features and also plumbing improvements |
| 05:50 | #info It was suggested the Road Map could have just a brief description of each proposal ... | |
| 05:51 | #info with a link to a separate page where the full RFC might be | |
| 05:51 | that's it | |
| 05:51 | Oak | an aerial view :) |
| 05:51 | rangi | the idea is its reevaluated after each major release |
| 05:52 | BobB | oh yeah, thx rangi |
| 05:52 | #info It was also suggested .. | |
| 05:52 | cait | #info the idea is to reevaluate after each release |
| 05:52 | * dcook | likes this idea |
| 05:52 | rangi | so its not fixed, always moving, more of a aspirational list than a roadmap |
| 05:52 | cait | sorry BobB |
| 05:52 | BobB | #info that the meeting after each major release could consider updates to the road map |
| 05:52 | cait | I'd like to try it :) |
| 05:52 | BobB | #info but that its maintenance can also be a continuous process |
| 05:52 | bag | +1 |
| 05:53 | cait | but i think then the next question would be - how do we get started? |
| 05:53 | krs joined #koha | |
| 05:53 | mtompset | from bugzilla? |
| 05:53 | cait | hm I think as we are collectiing more general ideas, there might not be bugs |
| 05:53 | or many bugs :) | |
| 05:53 | rangi | cait: we dont have to decide that til after the release |
| 05:54 | BobB | there might be big bugs, but certainly not every bug, or even close |
| 05:54 | cait | thought we could collect some ideas |
| 05:54 | rangi | for now, lets focus our energy on it, and people can write notes and we can look at them post release |
| 05:54 | cait | sounds good to me |
| 05:54 | rangi | so part of the release process can be a retrospective meeting |
| 05:55 | Oak | yes! |
| 05:55 | rangi | what went well, what didnt, what can we do better |
| 05:55 | cait | #idea Have a retrospective meeting as part of the release process |
| 05:55 | rangi | and update the roadmpa at that |
| 05:55 | cait | +1 |
| 05:55 | Oak | +1 |
| 05:55 | cait | i like that |
| 05:55 | BobB | #idea so we could endorse the idea today, and list it for more discussion at the next meeting? |
| 05:55 | rangi | sounds good to me BobB |
| 05:55 | bag | maybe at the next meeting - we do it |
| 05:55 | mtompset | Actually won't the next meeting be after the release? |
| 05:55 | cait | i think the general response was positive - souns good tome too |
| 05:56 | BobB | exactly mtompset |
| 05:56 | mtompset | So it aligns nicely. |
| 05:56 | BobB | :) |
| 05:56 | cait | first retro and road map meeting than? |
| 05:56 | moving on? | |
| 05:56 | BobB | yep, ok |
| 05:56 | cait | #idea use the next meeting to have more discussion, past and future on the road map |
| 05:57 | * mtompset | likes that idea. |
| 05:57 | cait | #topic Establish new roles within the release team |
| 05:57 | Topic for #koha is now Establish new roles within the release team (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 05:57 | BobB | #info This arose from the same discussion |
| 05:58 | #info the proposal is to establish a Wiki Maintainer as a member of the release team | |
| 05:58 | #info and a Communications Manager | |
| 05:58 | mtompset | The agenda says curator nor maintainer. ;) |
| 05:58 | BobB | #info peeps thought these might be available to Librarians rather than developers ... |
| 05:58 | mtompset | ^nor^not^ |
| 05:58 | BobB | #info who are busy enough already |
| 05:59 | oops big correction, gives a whole different sense of, thx mtompset | |
| 05:59 | rangi | i like the idea, finding volunteers would be the trick, but we can ask and see if anyone does volunteer |
| 05:59 | BobB | #info /Wiki Manager/ Wiki Curator/ |
| 05:59 | mtompset | What is the idea for a communication manager? |
| 06:00 | rangi | pretty much what coms do at any organisation |
| 06:00 | press releases, get info out about the releases to places like librarytechnology.org etc | |
| 06:00 | BobB | I mailed the list about it but don't have that to hand .... |
| 06:00 | cait | nudge people to get their news into the newsletter.. on the blog... write something up etc |
| 06:00 | rangi | they dont have to write it, but they can learn who to ask to write things, and then where to send them |
| 06:01 | BobB | liaise with the newsletter eds, bash people to write articles, etc |
| 06:01 | mtompset | Isn't that part of what the newsletter folks are doing? or is that something more than that? |
| 06:01 | BobB | rangi ++ |
| 06:01 | cait | mtompset: i think reaching into other media/places a bit more |
| 06:01 | BobB | its broader imo |
| 06:01 | mtompset | A Koha Evangelist? |
| 06:02 | rangi | no |
| 06:02 | thats a whole other thing | |
| 06:02 | cait | help us do good things AND actually talk about it? :) |
| 06:02 | BobB | a coordinator of stuff that is already happening, and a stirrer to make more stuff happen |
| 06:02 | rangi | yes |
| 06:02 | mtompset | Public Relations person? |
| 06:02 | BobB | but not to do stuff, oneself |
| 06:03 | necessarily | |
| 06:03 | Oak | when you choose that person, i can be his/her assistant. |
| 06:03 | BobB | Oak +1 |
| 06:03 | bag | Oak +1 |
| 06:04 | BobB | #info, if agreed to, these roles would be defined and advertised on the list: a call for nominations |
| 06:04 | rangi | you know when you see somethign come across the list, 1000 libraries in turkey using koha .. someone who follows that up, finds out more info, gets it more widely circulated etc |
| 06:04 | more like a journalist than a pr person ... we dont expect them to actually lie ;-) | |
| 06:04 | mtompset | Okay, I think I got it. |
| 06:04 | Oak | i feel like i can do that. |
| 06:05 | cait | :) |
| 06:05 | mtompset | both journalists and pr people lie, rangi. Fox News. ;) |
| 06:05 | Oak | Fox News.... really bad example |
| 06:05 | bag | awesome Oak !!! |
| 06:05 | rangi | i think calling people on fox news journalists is a huge disservice to journalists :) |
| 06:05 | thats pr people and pr people :) | |
| 06:05 | mtompset | true, true. :) |
| 06:05 | cait | Oak++ :) |
| 06:06 | rangi | should we agree on the positions? |
| 06:06 | minute that at least | |
| 06:06 | mtompset | but back on topic... yes, let's put that out on the list for a call for nominations. |
| 06:06 | BobB | if we find people to fill them its a win, if we don't nothing is lost |
| 06:06 | rangi | *nod* |
| 06:06 | bag | +1 |
| 06:06 | schnydszch | media as in TV, newspaper and radio? |
| 06:06 | *other media | |
| 06:06 | cait | ok, any veto? |
| 06:07 | bag | I think part of the call for volunteers - will be they get to help create and shape this role too |
| 06:07 | BobB | good point bag |
| 06:07 | Oak | yes! i was thinking same thing. |
| 06:08 | cait | what can i put in the agreed? |
| 06:08 | #agreed Look for a Wiki Curator and Communication manager | |
| 06:08 | BobB | yep |
| 06:08 | cait | is somonewilling to write to the ml ?:) |
| 06:09 | BobB | yes I can |
| 06:09 | cait | #action BobB will email the mailing list about the new roles |
| 06:09 | BobB++ thx | |
| 06:09 | moving on? | |
| 06:09 | Oak | BobB++ |
| 06:09 | BobB | np |
| 06:09 | bag | thank you very much BobB |
| 06:09 | cait | #topic KohaCon15 |
| 06:09 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon15 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 06:10 | cait | i am not sure, is someone from Nigeria here? |
| 06:10 | gbengaadara: ? | |
| 06:10 | gbengaadara | yes |
| 06:10 | Sorry was late | |
| 06:10 | rangi | it must be early for you gbengaadara |
| 06:10 | gbengaadara | I did not just want jump in |
| 06:11 | cait | it's alright :) the meetings are at weird times |
| 06:11 | mtj | hiya gbengaadara :) |
| 06:11 | gbengaadara | hi all |
| 06:11 | BobB | hi olug |
| 06:11 | cait | late #info s are always ok too |
| 06:12 | gbengaadara | ok then |
| 06:12 | We have a suggestion to host from 19th Oct. to 25th Oct | |
| 06:13 | and follow the usual Kohacon pattern for conference and hackfest | |
| 06:14 | mtompset | http://kohacon15bid.projektlinkkonsult.com/ |
| 06:15 | cait | #link http://kohacon15bid.projektlinkkonsult.com/ |
| 06:15 | gbengaadara++ sounds good | |
| 06:15 | gbengaadara | Thanks cait |
| 06:16 | cait | any questions for gbengaadara? |
| 06:16 | gbengaadara | I just learnt today we can create the conference wiki page |
| 06:16 | and can edit that. | |
| 06:16 | May need help about that though | |
| 06:16 | rangi | yep, its a great place to put notes etc as you are planning things |
| 06:17 | gbengaadara: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon15 | |
| 06:17 | its all ready for you to start editing :) | |
| 06:17 | cait | gbengaadara: sure, just jump in here when there is a wiki problem |
| 06:17 | we can help figure it out | |
| 06:18 | gbengaadara | thanks rangi and cait |
| 06:18 | cait | rangi++ |
| 06:18 | #info http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon15 | |
| 06:18 | gbengaadara | We will keep the community posted as we move forward |
| 06:19 | and great thanks for allowing us to host this | |
| 06:19 | cait | thx gbengaadara for doing it |
| 06:19 | liw | http://imgur.com/ZfFPZjt may be amusing |
| 06:19 | Oak | gbengaadara++ |
| 06:19 | gbengaadara | Questions?? |
| 06:19 | wahanui | Questions are good :) |
| 06:20 | rangi | liw++ |
| 06:20 | mtompset | Nope. just a little sad that the Philippines didn't get their bid in on time. But we have 2016 already under way. :) |
| 06:20 | rangi | gbengaadara: if you could put up travel info asap that would be great |
| 06:20 | like what airport is closest, etc | |
| 06:21 | helps when researching flights/prices | |
| 06:21 | but no other questions | |
| 06:21 | gbengaadara | noted @rangi |
| 06:21 | thanks | |
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| 06:22 | schnydszch | rangi, its posted here http://kohacon15bid.projektlin[…]etting-to-ibadan/ but if the community wants a more detailed one then please Olug :) |
| 06:22 | Oak | and maybe what to pack specific to your part of the world, for example, sunscreen? |
| 06:22 | but October may not be hot i guess. | |
| 06:22 | gbengaadara | noted oak |
| 06:23 | dcook | @seen ribasushi |
| 06:23 | huginn | dcook: ribasushi was last seen in #koha 4 days, 22 hours, 23 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <ribasushi> dcook: can you tell me where in the docs does it say that chaining will work the way you expected? can't seem to find it... |
| 06:23 | mtompset | gbengaadara: You might want to fix the dates section. :) |
| 06:23 | gbengaadara | we will update both the wiki and http://kohacon15bid.projektlin[…]etting-to-ibadan/ |
| 06:23 | rangi | thanks gbengaadara |
| 06:24 | cait | moving on? |
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| 06:24 | bag | yup moving on |
| 06:24 | cait | #topic Koha on FLOSS weekly |
| 06:24 | Topic for #koha is now Koha on FLOSS weekly (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 06:24 | cait | this is from magnuse i think |
| 06:25 | who is sleeping now... tsk | |
| 06:25 | any thoughts? :) | |
| 06:25 | mtompset | Sounds like a Communications Manager thing. ;) |
| 06:25 | But yes, seems like a good idea to me. :) | |
| 06:26 | rangi | As long as it's not me, I'm for it |
| 06:26 | cait | i think it could be good, but i am not listening to it regularly |
| 06:26 | heh | |
| 06:26 | #info we generally like the idea, but no volunteer yet | |
| 06:26 | move on? | |
| 06:26 | #info Actions from General IRC meeting 22 October 2014 | |
| 06:27 | hm getting too tired | |
| 06:27 | #topic Actions from General IRC meeting 22 October 2014 | |
| 06:27 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from General IRC meeting 22 October 2014 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 06:27 | mtompset | Were there any actions? |
| 06:27 | cait | cheking |
| 06:27 | tcohen++ getting the film done :) | |
| 06:27 | #link http://meetings.koha-community[…]-10-22-13.05.html | |
| 06:28 | mtompset | Yes, indeed. |
| 06:29 | cait | also, we figured out kohacon15... looking good to me on the list |
| 06:29 | BobB | all done there cait |
| 06:29 | cait | so next meeting... |
| 06:29 | mtompset | Actually, did Tomas get the presentations uploaded? |
| 06:30 | cait | some are on the wiki |
| 06:30 | i think if not it's probably on his list still :) | |
| 06:30 | #topic Set time and date of next General IRC meeting | |
| 06:30 | Topic for #koha is now Set time and date of next General IRC meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014 - part 1) | |
| 06:31 | cait | i am tired :) any suggestions? |
| 06:31 | maybe early december? | |
| 06:31 | rangi | 19 December? |
| 06:31 | cait | should work for me |
| 06:32 | any suggestions on the time? | |
| 06:32 | mtompset | That's the last friday before Christmas holidays. |
| 06:32 | cait | ah right, i was looking at november |
| 06:32 | * mtompset | shrugs. |
| 06:32 | Oak | mtompset++ |
| 06:32 | cait | maybe more mid-week? |
| 06:33 | 17th? | |
| 06:33 | BobB | what about Dec 17? |
| 06:33 | snap | |
| 06:33 | cait | ) |
| 06:33 | rangi | Fine by me |
| 06:33 | mtj | dec 17 +1 |
| 06:33 | cait | we can suggest a date and leave times to the other meeting heh |
| 06:33 | bag | +1 |
| 06:33 | cait | any veto? |
| 06:33 | Oak | +1 |
| 06:33 | mtompset | okay. |
| 06:33 | +1 | |
| 06:33 | cait | #agreed meeting part 1 suggests December 17th for the next meeting |
| 06:33 | mtompset | This is crazy late. :) |
| 06:34 | cait | anything else? |
| 06:34 | * Oak | hugs cait |
| 06:34 | cait | #endmeeting |
| 06:34 | Topic for #koha is now Please read the new code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/. The next Koha General IRC meeting is 19 November at 5UTC and 21UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
| 06:34 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Nov 19 06:34:22 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 06:34 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-11-19-05.04.html | |
| 06:34 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]4-11-19-05.04.txt | |
| 06:34 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]19-05.04.log.html | |
| 06:34 | cait | heh thx Oak :) |
| 06:34 | Oak | :) |
| 06:34 | BobB | thank you cait |
| 06:34 | cait | thx for staying with me |
| 06:34 | bag | thanks cait |
| 06:34 | cait | i am going back to bed for a bit before work now :) |
| 06:34 | mtompset | -- I was going to say nope, but that's okay. :P |
| 06:34 | cait++ # awesome chairing. | |
| 06:35 | bag++ # subchairing. :) | |
| 06:35 | Oak | cait++ |
| 06:35 | bag++ | |
| 06:35 | * dcook | sighs over SQL::Translator::Diff |
| 06:35 | Oak | everyone++ |
| 06:35 | rangi | I'm off to put kids to bed |
| 06:35 | gbengaadara | cait++ |
| 06:35 | bag | I'm off to bed |
| 06:35 | mtompset | Thanks to the Filipino contingent that made it: manny schnydszch RTerrenal |
| 06:35 | Oak | rangi only cait and mtompset need to sleep i think |
| 06:35 | gbengaadara | bye folks |
| 06:36 | manny | everyone++ |
| 06:36 | Oak | later gbengaadara |
| 06:36 | mtompset | @karma everyone |
| 06:36 | huginn | mtompset: Karma for "everyone" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. |
| 06:36 | mtompset | manny++ |
| 06:36 | bag | just a reminder --> http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 if anyone could maybe sign-off that last patch from eythian that would be rad |
| 06:36 | huginn | 04Bug 11998: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues |
| 06:36 | mtompset | RTerrenal++ |
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| 06:38 | dcook | night all |
| 06:38 | wahanui | goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
| 06:38 | schnydszch | you're welcome mtompset |
| 06:39 | mtompset | @karma manny |
| 06:39 | huginn | mtompset: Karma for "manny" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 06:39 | Malik____ | how to take schedule backup of koha |
| 06:39 | schnydszch | good night to all that's about to go to sleep. Good day to others! :) |
| 06:39 | Malik____ | can any one tell me |
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| 06:40 | mtompset | Malik____: There is a cronjob installed by default for a package installation that does 2 days automatically. |
| 06:40 | Malik____ | but i want hourly backup |
| 06:41 | schnydszch | set the settings to do it hourly |
| 06:42 | rangi | just write a cronjob that dumps the db every hour |
| 06:42 | bearing in mind it will lock tables etc as its doing it | |
| 06:42 | Malik____ | ok got that |
| 06:42 | rangi | so will cause lock ups/ go slows while you are doing it |
| 06:42 | mtompset | schnydszch: The backup script is written for daily purposes, there is nothing hourly. A DB dump hourly is quickest and easiest. |
| 06:42 | rangi | doing a full backup when the library is in heavy use is not a good idea, if you want it for hourly |
| 06:43 | id suggest doing actual replication | |
| 06:43 | and nightly full dumps | |
| 06:43 | schnydszch | as they say yeah it's a bad idea to backup hourly |
| 06:44 | okay, I''m setting some cron jobs on mine through webmin, it's easier to manage through an interface :) | |
| 06:44 | rangi | https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refm[…]/replication.html |
| 06:54 | Malik____ | hello to all i am working with sms configuration in koha so can anyone tell me that how it is possible to send notices to patrons in SMS |
| 06:57 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha schnydszch RTerrenal rangi mtj Malik____ dcook |
| 06:58 | schnydszch | Malik: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ha-td5727805.html |
| 07:01 | you enable in sms send driver in global system preference the driver for sending your SMS (SMSSendDriver) | |
| 07:01 | Malik____ | i have tried these but i am working with GSM device is it possible to configure this device with koha on ubuntu |
| 07:01 | mtj | you need to choose a good SMS company Malik____ |
| 07:02 | schnydszch | I haven't tried it. I actually wanted to test this, however there are none yet in the Philippines. |
| 07:02 | Malik____ | in GSM device i am using a mobile phone company |
| 07:03 | mtj | ...choose a company, that has a working driver for perl |
| 07:03 | Malik____ | i have tried but there API are not working in Pakistan |
| 07:03 | mtj | ok, then you have a problem |
| 07:04 | Malik____ | what |
| 07:04 | i think GSM has drivers those are compatible with pearl | |
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| 07:09 | mtj | Malik____: clickatell.com looks good for PK |
| 07:10 | Malik____ | ok let me check |
| 07:10 | mtj | https://www.clickatell.com/test-sms-gateway/ |
| 07:11 | ...and has perl driver too | |
| 07:11 | http://search.cpan.org/~nobull[…]end/Clickatell.pm | |
| 07:14 | Malik____ | nice and thanks now i will start working with Clickatell |
| 07:14 | littleboss | hello can help fixing the install for this dep on koha 3.16 Template::Plugin::HtmlToText |
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| 07:16 | Malik____ | quite: |
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| 07:24 | mtj | littleboss: you are installing koha using packages, yes? |
| 07:26 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze | |
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| 07:36 | mtj | hmm, i think Malik might be better off using this... |
| 07:36 | http://search.cpan.org/dist/SM[…]Send/DeviceGsm.pm | |
| 07:36 | with his GSM box | |
| 07:37 | i see Joubu had some problems with koha and clickatell, and needed to patch | |
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| 07:44 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:44 | wahanui | hello, reiveune |
| 07:44 | * cait | waves |
| 07:44 | runs off to work | |
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| 07:55 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:59 | Joubu | hello #koha |
| 07:59 | rangi | hi Joubu |
| 08:01 | eythian | hi Joubu, alex_a |
| 08:02 | Joubu | eythian: I will try to have a look at your new syspref cache patch |
| 08:03 | eythian | Joubu: thanks :D |
| 08:03 | littleboss | mtj: Yes |
| 08:04 | Joubu | mtj: I had problems with clickatell? Hum, it had to be someone else, I don't know what is clickatell :) |
| 08:04 | * eythian | makes like a tree and leaves |
| 08:06 | mtj | Joubu: https://www.mail-archive.com/k[…]org/msg06687.html |
| 08:06 | littleboss | mtj: Had to step away |
| 08:06 | mtj: pachkages yes | |
| 08:07 | Joubu | mtj: ha yes :) I forgot this email |
| 08:07 | mtj | aah Joubu, you made a general SMS patch? - not a patch for clickatell |
| 08:08 | littleboss: # apt-get intsall libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl | |
| 08:08 | Joubu | mtj: that's it, I did not write this module (Clickatell.pm) |
| 08:08 | mtj | ok, got it :) |
| 08:08 | littleboss | mtj: have an error on that |
| 08:09 | mtj: all the other modules install | |
| 08:09 | mtj | hmm, ok |
| 08:09 | paste? | |
| 08:09 | wahanui | i think paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 08:09 | mtj | littleboss: paste error there ^ |
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| 08:11 | littleboss | mtj: E: Package 'libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl' has no installation candidate |
| 08:11 | mtj: Package libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl is not available, but is referred to by another package. | |
| 08:11 | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or | |
| 08:11 | is only available from another source | |
| 08:12 | mtj | you have some mistake with your apt sources , i think |
| 08:13 | littleboss | mtj: what would be the work around |
| 08:14 | mtj: :) | |
| 08:14 | eythian | there is a version of libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl in all the Koha repos. |
| 08:14 | * eythian | is not good at leaving but it really doing it now |
| 08:14 | eythian | littleboss: it sounds like you might not have the Koha repo sources added correctly, I'll let mtj help with that :) |
| 08:15 | mtj | littleboss: are you following the good install instructions? |
| 08:15 | -> http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze | |
| 08:17 | 'To get the stable 3.16 release, add this to a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list file:' | |
| 08:17 | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | |
| 08:17 | . | |
| 08:18 | i think you miss this step? ^ | |
| 08:18 | Joubu | rangi: do you know when the spliter update its data? |
| 08:18 | rangi: I don't see patches I sent recently | |
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| 08:25 | littleboss | mtj: yes |
| 08:25 | :eythian bn checking it out in vain | |
| 08:26 | mtj: let me try tht will get back to you asap | |
| 08:27 | mtj | no probs littleboss |
| 08:27 | ..you can always create a new linux VM, to test :) | |
| 08:28 | * cait | waves |
| 08:30 | littleboss | mtj: true |
| 08:31 | rangi | Joubu: it should be running every morning, it might have died for some reason, ill check |
| 08:31 | just ran it manually, look better now? | |
| 08:32 | Joubu | rangi: yep! |
| 08:32 | So what the problem? | |
| 08:33 | rangi | not sure, the cron is set up, ill set it to mail me instead of > /dev/null so i can see if it throws an error |
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| 08:39 | schnydszch | hi sophiem of biblibre, i have question regarding koha-drupal koha connector |
| 08:44 | please correct me if I'm wrong, is the Koha connector module in drupal for UNIMARC only? | |
| 08:45 | paul_p | jajm ^ |
| 08:47 | jajm | schnydszch, hi, the koha connector is very configurable, but maybe some things are UNIMARC only, like 200$a for the title (but that could be changed easily in the source code) |
| 08:52 | schnydszch | so the koha.conf in one of the files in the module needs to be configured. However, when I run the drush opac-harvest I get this WD OPAC HARVEST: Can't determine the content type for record |
| 08:52 | WD OPAC HARVEST: Can't determine the content type for record | |
| 08:53 | is this related to the koha connector not configured for UNIMARC? or another thing | |
| 08:55 | i'm testing this in Koha 3.16.4 drush version 6.2.0 and drupal 7.28. hi paul_p :) | |
| 08:56 | paul_p | schnydszch (the author of the connector is jajm, not me. I'm jajm boss ;-) ) |
| 08:57 | jajm | schnydszch, you need to configure the content types for your opac server, in drupal admin |
| 08:58 | schnydszch, https://www.drupal.org/node/1780226 | |
| 08:58 | schnydszch | I've already configured. do i need to configure them all. I only configured one field |
| 08:59 | jajm | it seems that the rule you set doesn't match |
| 09:00 | schnydszch | the itemtype is 995. however the field for itemtype is 952 |
| 09:00 | as i see in the mapping | |
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| 09:02 | jajm | schnydszch, what do you have in koha.conf about itemtype ? |
| 09:04 | schnydszch | by the way, wheke.org is down, this was presented in Koha Con '13 :) |
| 09:05 | jajm | schnydszch, hmm... wheke.org is still up for me |
| 09:05 | schnydszch | it's inaccessible for me. right now, itype is 995 |
| 09:06 | it was the default | |
| 09:06 | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wheke.org | |
| 09:07 | jajm | schnydszch, maybe it's a bad idea to use an item field for guessing the content type, there could be multiple different values, also we never used an item field for that, so you probably found a bug |
| 09:11 | schnydszch | oh.. one question further. Is the koha-restful needed to be configured? or ILS-DI is enough? |
| 09:11 | I was thinking that could be one of the reason(s)? | |
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| 09:29 | mveron | hi #koha |
| 09:31 | * mveron | neded quite a time to find a three line fix for Bug 10956 freezing browser while highlighting... |
| 09:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10956 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Series of OPAC searches can cause a browser crash |
| 09:34 | Joubu | mveron: I have already fixed that! |
| 09:35 | weird, let me check | |
| 09:35 | mveron | Joubu: Fixed in master? |
| 09:35 | Joubu | at least submited a patch! |
| 09:37 | jajm | schnydszch, koha-restful is not needed for opac-harvest, it uses ILS-DI GetRecords |
| 09:38 | mveron | Joubu:I searchd Bugzilla first, but did not find anything. That's why I worked on it. Do you rmember the Bug number? |
| 09:39 | Joubu | mveron: 9419: |
| 09:39 | bug 9419 | |
| 09:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9419 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, The highlight feature can cause a browser freeze |
| 09:39 | Joubu | the patch fixed opac-results only... |
| 09:40 | mveron: maybe it could be good to have the same function | |
| 09:41 | schnydszch | jajm, okay. I have a item type RETRATO in Koha ILS. In Drupal, I have content type retrato. i tried in field value "/^RETRATO$/" and "/RETRATO /" But still giving me WD OPAC HARVEST: Can't determine the content type for record n° 19 [warning] coming from filipinas_library server. Title: . Switch this record when I issue drush opac-harvest --from=1 --to=20 --print-id -v |
| 09:42 | Joubu | mveron: see bug 8646 too |
| 09:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8646 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, CLOSED FIXED, Certain search terms cause browser "script taking too long" error |
| 09:44 | jajm | schnydszch, as i said, maybe it's not possible to use an item field for that, could you try with another field ? |
| 09:45 | schnydszch | can somebody using 3.16.4 confirm if they're getting the same. In circulation and fine rules, heard due date is non editable. Whenever it is edited it sets to None define. i've also tried this with bywater's http://intranet.bywatersolutio[…]in/smart-rules.pl which is 3.17.x Please confirm. Thanks! |
| 09:45 | jajm, okay i'll try | |
| 09:52 | littleboss | schnydszch: how did you get past Package libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl is not available error in 3.16.4 |
| 09:53 | schnydszch: building a test env to handle this any suggestions ? | |
| 09:57 | schnydszch | littleboss, is this for koha-restful? if it is, I was not successful installing it |
| 10:01 | littleboss | schnydszch: from here http://download.koha-community[…]oha-latest.tar.gz |
| 10:01 | schnydszch | jajm, i've tried with books field value "/^BK$/" and only mapping is ISBN because it was the only field I can edit on the fly (from 010 to 020). I'm still getting the same error |
| 10:02 | by the way, koha installation is debian package | |
| 10:03 | littleboss | running it on ubuntu :) |
| 10:03 | jajm | schnydszch, on which field do you try to match '^BK$' ? |
| 10:04 | schnydszch | Books content type |
| 10:04 | jajm, "/^BK$/" | |
| 10:04 | jajm, Books content type | |
| 10:04 | littleboss | schnydszch: stuck at web installer step 1 because of Template::Plugin::HtmlToText |
| 10:06 | schnydszch | littleboss try cpan |
| 10:06 | jajm | schnydszch, Books content type corresponds to a MARC field in koha.conf, do your Koha records have 'BK' in this MARC field ? |
| 10:07 | littleboss | schnydszch tried it |
| 10:07 | schnydszch let me share the error | |
| 10:07 | schnydszch | littleboss, you can follow this http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze I'm not sure if it's doable in Ubuntu |
| 10:09 | yes it's in 952$y | |
| 10:09 | which is the itemtype | |
| 10:09 | jajm | schnydszch, an item field ? |
| 10:10 | schnydszch | yep |
| 10:10 | i edited 995 to 952 | |
| 10:10 | ; Itype biblioFields[itype][label] = 952 Items type biblioFields[itype][description] = "items type in 952\$y marc field." biblioFields[itype][get][0][value] = '952$y' biblioFields[itype][default] = 'INC' | |
| 10:12 | littleboss | schnydszch thnks for the heads-up |
| 10:12 | mveron | Joubu: The fixes in bug 9419 and bug 8646 are related to the prog theme (Opac). My fix in Bug 10956 is for bootstrap |
| 10:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9419 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, The highlight feature can cause a browser freeze |
| 10:12 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8646 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, CLOSED FIXED, Certain search terms cause browser "script taking too long" error | |
| 10:12 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10956 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Series of OPAC searches can cause a browser crash | |
| 10:12 | jajm | schnydszch, try with a non-item field, a non-repeatable one if possible |
| 10:13 | schnydszch | littleboss, yeah never experienced that as of late since using the debian package |
| 10:13 | jajm, okay i'll try to look at my marc records | |
| 10:13 | how about control field? | |
| 10:13 | wahanui | control field is number ? |
| 10:14 | littleboss | mtj it installs but the recheck still fails |
| 10:14 | schnydszch | 001 I mean |
| 10:14 | control no | |
| 10:14 | littleboss | schnydszch it has funnyly installed but the the recheck still fails |
| 10:15 | schnydszch | you passed through koha web installer |
| 10:15 | ? | |
| 10:15 | littleboss | yes |
| 10:15 | downloaded the kohalatest | |
| 10:16 | installed. bn doing that on past installs | |
| 10:17 | Joubu | mveron: yes I saw. That's why I suggested you to use the same code |
| 10:21 | schnydszch | jajm, probably this error above the message will help (?): Undefined offset: 0 koha.inc:456 |
| 10:22 | somewhere along the line 456: // Title information. $bib['title'] = ''; $title = $this->get(array('value' => '200$a'), $bib_info_marc); $bib['title'] = $title[0]; if (!$bib['title']) { $bib['title'] = ' '; | |
| 10:23 | jajm | schnydszch, hmm, which version of koha-connector do you use ? |
| 10:24 | schnydszch | koha_connector-7.x-2.x-dev |
| 10:26 | jajm | schnydszch, and which version of opac ? |
| 10:27 | schnydszch | opac-7.x-2.0 |
| 10:27 | jajm | schnydszch, you should probably upgrade to 3.x-dev for both |
| 10:27 | schnydszch | okay jajm, i'll try |
| 10:28 | jajm | koha-connector 3.x-dev was not visible on drupal.org, but i just fixed that |
| 10:31 | schnydszch | okay thanks, I'm trying it now. I downloaded it already |
| 10:45 | mveron | Joubu: Bug 10956 changed |
| 10:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10956 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Series of OPAC searches can cause a browser crash |
| 10:50 | Joubu | mveron: looks good, thanks! |
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| 12:03 | tcohen | hi |
| 12:03 | wahanui | hey, tcohen |
| 12:06 | * magnuse | waves temporarily |
| 12:09 | cait | tcohen++ # commnicating :) |
| 12:09 | #communicating even | |
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| 12:28 | * mveron | waves |
| 12:28 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 12:28 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 12.1°C (1:28 PM CET on November 19, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:38 | tcohen | hi again |
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| 12:50 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:51 | littleboss | This module is driving me nuts ! Template::Plugin::HtmlToText |
| 12:51 | Have installed it by hand still missing | |
| 12:51 | any pointers | |
| 12:51 | :( | |
| 12:52 | koha 3.16.04 on ubuntu 14 | |
| 12:52 | tcohen | Joubu: would u agree to rename mock_dbh for mock_context? |
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| 12:54 | Joubu | tcohen: yep |
| 12:55 | oleonard | cait++ # for chairing the meeting earlier |
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| 12:59 | cait | thx oleonard |
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| 13:01 | schnydszch_ | littleboss maybe you need to install the perl module manually |
| 13:01 | here's the link http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/au[…]oText-0.03.tar.gz | |
| 13:02 | i look at my perl module of the same, it's 0.03 | |
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| 13:14 | cait | i think the next meeting in a few hours? |
| 13:14 | hm 8 hours? | |
| 13:16 | schnydszch_ | jajm, I tried the dev versions still getting the |
| 13:16 | same errors | |
| 13:19 | oleonard | Can someone please see if they can reproduce Bug 13289? |
| 13:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13289 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Calendar with weekly repeating holidays completely broken by DataTables upgrade |
| 13:21 | cait | not right now sorry :( |
| 13:25 | jajm | schnydszch_, did you run the updatedb after upgrading to 3.x ? |
| 13:27 | schnydszch_ | jajm i have just run it |
| 13:27 | jajm, i'm seeing opac alpha uploaded 11/19 | |
| 13:30 | jajm | schnydszch_, can you confirm your drupal installation have access to koha ils-di ? (you can see it in admin » config » opac servers » YOUR SERVER, or, in URL terms, /admin/config/opac/servers/manage/YOURSERVER/view) |
| 13:31 | schnydszch_ | i'm trying to upload the opac alpha |
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| 13:39 | schnydszch_ | jajm same as before http response 200 |
| 13:39 | is my ILS Connection test through ILS-DI | |
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| 13:42 | jajm | schnydszch_, i don't have any other idea... :/ |
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| 13:48 | bigbrovar | Hi guys. after setting up koha instance for my school (on our intranet) it worked fine so we proceeded to do a setup on linode everything seems ok.. exporting marc from the intranet version to the version on linode went well without problems.. however when I did test to put a book on hold I get this error "Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold." " No available items" |
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| 13:49 | bigbrovar | this is even when the item information are displayed and the item is marked as available. I crossed check the circulation and fine rules and have the default all setup |
| 13:50 | cait | bigbrovar: check allowonshelfholds preference |
| 13:50 | ashimema | so does it work on your intranets installation? |
| 13:50 | cait | bigbrovar: also make sure that you have the number of reserves in the cirulation rule not empty, but with a number |
| 14:00 | bigbrovar | cait: Thanks alot. I will do just that |
| 14:01 | cait: That as it. placing holds now work | |
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| 14:05 | schnydszch__ | Thank you very much jajm for the Koha-Drupal integration. I'll configure and read further. I'll try to remap koha.conf UNIMARC to MARC21 and share it. Cheers! :) |
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| 14:10 | Joubu | oleonard: what do you mean by "broken" in bug Bug 13289? |
| 14:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13289 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Calendar with weekly repeating holidays completely broken by DataTables upgrade |
| 14:11 | Joubu | I get really weird behaviors on the page too |
| 14:11 | oleonard | Joubu: I mean the page doesn't load at all |
| 14:11 | Joubu | yep, same here... |
| 14:11 | outch | |
| 14:12 | oleonard | Joubu: Before you get too deep into that problem I have a question about Bug 13288 |
| 14:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13288 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Saved reports tabs broken by DataTables upgrade |
| 14:12 | oleonard | The patch works, but there seems to be a noticeable slowdown with loading each tab |
| 14:13 | Joubu | how? |
| 14:13 | I didn't notice that | |
| 14:13 | oleonard | When I test it before the DataTables upgrade, clicking each tab brings up the contents of the tab almost instantly |
| 14:13 | Joubu | but I don't have a lot of report (something like ~30) |
| 14:14 | oleonard | After the patch it takes about one second for the tab to switch |
| 14:14 | So: Click the tab... Wait one second... The tab switches. | |
| 14:14 | Joubu | hum... |
| 14:14 | oleonard | I have 31 reports in all |
| 14:17 | tcohen | mtj++ |
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| 14:22 | Joubu | oleonard: repeatable holidays: it comes from the document.write into a td (...) |
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| 14:22 | Joubu | oleonard: Which is really dirty |
| 14:22 | But I don't know how we could fix that | |
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| 14:24 | oleonard | I'll take a look and see if I can get any ideas Joubu |
| 14:31 | Joubu | oleonard: ok patch sent |
| 14:43 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12376 - blinking cursor not clear in larger resolutions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eec5f021111ef9c2d> / Bug 13234 [Follow-up] Make on-site checkouts visible in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]49d72b626d8fc412d> / Bug 13234: On-site checkouts - OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb/?p=koha.git;a= |
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| 14:54 | oleonard | Thanks Joubu |
| 14:54 | Joubu++ | |
| 14:54 | littleboss | how do i download in chat ? |
| 14:55 | anyone :( | |
| 14:55 | oleonard | Download in chat? What do you mean? |
| 14:55 | littleboss | RngTFM does not help |
| 14:56 | suppose I need to share files in chat | |
| 14:56 | oleonard | You post the file somewhere and share a link to it here |
| 14:56 | Is it text? | |
| 14:56 | littleboss | audio |
| 14:57 | oleonard | Why? |
| 14:57 | littleboss | music |
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| 16:03 | * Joubu | is sending an audio file to oleonard |
| 16:03 | Joubu | see you #koha |
| 16:03 | bag | morning |
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| 16:14 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 16:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143 : Updating history and about page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2bea4540daabc5d55> / Bug 12132: display guarantees if a patron has them, regardless of category type <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3583c9ed69ea1cea9> / Bug 13223: [QA Follow-up] Adding some unit tests for wrapper <http://git.koha-communit |
| 16:32 | cait | hi drojf, hi bag - bbiab :) |
| 16:33 | and don't forget... second election meetig later :) | |
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| 16:33 | bag | nice |
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| 16:56 | bag | tcohen: thanks for the feedback on http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 |
| 16:56 | huginn | 04Bug 11998: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues |
| 16:56 | bag | @later tell eythian - Hey Robin you've got a little feedback on this - http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 What do you think about it? |
| 16:56 | huginn | bag: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:56 | 04Bug 11998: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues | |
| 17:06 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:35 | * cait | waves |
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| 17:53 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 17:54 | mtompset | Bye, tcohen. :) |
| 17:54 | Greetings, #koha. | |
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| 18:29 | AmitG | bag around? |
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| 18:30 | bag | heya AmitG |
| 18:31 | kathryn | hi bag 'n'all |
| 18:32 | bag | heya kathryn |
| 18:32 | wahanui | i heard kathryn was beaten by a banana. |
| 18:32 | kathryn | oh for goodness sake... |
| 18:32 | I did NOT hear that wahanui! | |
| 18:32 | :) | |
| 18:34 | AmitG | heya kathryn |
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| 18:40 | mtompset | Greetings, AmitG bag kathryn. :) |
| 18:40 | kathryn | Hi AmitG and mtompset :) |
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| 19:33 | mtompset | Oh my! I remember this bug I was working on. |
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| 20:53 | bag | hey cait you shared a nice wiki page last night of the bugs for 3.18 - do you still have that page handy? I'd like to share that with a few people |
| 20:53 | cait | sure, if you are lookign for new pages the 'recent changes' link is pretty handy |
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| 20:54 | cait | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ritical_circ_bugs |
| 20:54 | 5 mins to meeting, brb | |
| 20:54 | nancyk | hicait, just checking to see if I can get in |
| 20:57 | * wizzyrea | wonders why wahanui thinks kathryn was beaten by a banana |
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| 21:00 | cait | hi nancyk |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea: eythian? | |
| 21:00 | wahanui | i think eythian is Time's Person of the Year for 2006. |
| 21:00 | cait | he is usually to blame for things like hat |
| 21:01 | kathryn | cait I think it is a consolation prize really, as that silly photo is now gone :) |
| 21:01 | cait | which photo? :) |
| 21:02 | drojf | a photo of you and the banana? |
| 21:02 | wajasu | ha! |
| 21:02 | cait | ok, meeting time? |
| 21:02 | wahanui | i guess meeting time is always going to favour one section of the globe |
| 21:03 | cait | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2 |
| 21:03 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Nov 19 21:03:22 2014 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 21:03 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 21:03 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2) | |
| 21:03 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_19_november_2014__part_2' |
| 21:03 | cait | #topic introductions |
| 21:03 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 21:03 | Topic for #koha is now introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2) | |
| 21:03 | cait | please introuce yourself with #info! |
| 21:04 | it is time for the meeting, isn't it? | |
| 21:04 | BobB | #info Bob Birchall, Calyx Australia |
| 21:04 | jmsasse | #info Joel Sasse Plum Creek, MN |
| 21:04 | nancyk | #info nancyk Reno, Nevada Washoe County Library System |
| 21:04 | drojf | #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin |
| 21:05 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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| 21:05 | JesseM | #info Jesse Maseto, BWS, USA |
| 21:05 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater |
| 21:05 | gbengaadara | #info Olugbenga Adara Projektlink Konsult, Nigeria |
| 21:05 | wajasu | #info! |
| 21:05 | edveal | #info edveal, BWS USA |
| 21:05 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 21:05 | talljoy_phone | #info Joy Nelson BWS, USA |
| 21:05 | edveal | #info Ed Veal ByWater |
| 21:05 | bag | hey thanks for the link cait |
| 21:06 | cait | yw |
| 21:06 | #topic Announcements | |
| 21:06 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2) | |
| 21:06 | cait | any announcements? |
| 21:06 | dani | #Dani Elder BWS, USA |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | #info Liz Rea, Catalyst IT |
| 21:07 | dani | #info Dani Elder BWS, USA |
| 21:07 | bag | ES demo is up from Robin http://elasticsearch.koha.cata[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 21:07 | cait | good news! |
| 21:07 | wahanui | i guess good news is it looks like it's running properly. |
| 21:07 | cait | but please start testing afterthe meeting :) |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | erm, I suppose a general announcement is that one should file bugs for anything website related on bugzilla, under "website" |
| 21:07 | barton | #info Barton Chittenden, BWS, Louisville, Kentucky, USA |
| 21:07 | bag | not totally ready for feedback though - since we're still doing lots of development |
| 21:07 | cait | #info ES demo is up from Robin http://elasticsearch.koha.cata[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 21:08 | #info Koha, a community - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]&feature=youtu.be A video made during KohaCon14 in Argentina got published yesterday | |
| 21:08 | bag | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ritical_circ_bugs |
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| 21:08 | cait | yes, we still need testing and patches |
| 21:08 | please keep an eye on that page and see how you can help | |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | tcohen++ unc++ the video is cool |
| 21:08 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 21:08 | cait | moving on to the releases |
| 21:09 | #topic Update on releases (3.8 - 3.18) | |
| 21:09 | Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (3.8 - 3.18) (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2) | |
| 21:09 | mario | #info Mario Guilin ByWater |
| 21:09 | cait | rm or rmaints around? :) |
| 21:09 | bag | bummer no tcohen |
| 21:10 | cait | #info String Freeze for 3.18 is on 21th this week |
| 21:10 | see tomas' email earlier | |
| 21:10 | BobB | #info a Beta for 3.18 was released a few days ago: please test |
| 21:10 | cait | #info Release 3.18 is on 28th next week |
| 21:10 | wahanui | i already had it that way, cait. |
| 21:10 | cait | thx BobB |
| 21:10 | BobB | :) |
| 21:10 | cait | ok, anything else? :) |
| 21:11 | i'd like to do elections next, like in the first meeting if that#s ok for everyone? | |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | go for it |
| 21:11 | cait | #topic Elections! |
| 21:11 | Topic for #koha is now Elections! (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2) | |
| 21:11 | BobB | I voted yesterday, will pass |
| 21:11 | cait | #info Nominations are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.20 |
| 21:11 | * bag | already voted this morning (so I will pass too) |
| 21:11 | cait | i also won't vote as i voted this morning |
| 21:12 | * BobB | goes to grab breakfast |
| 21:12 | cait | ok, first, RM |
| 21:12 | any questions? | |
| 21:13 | ok, vote on Release manager now - candidate is Tomas Cohen Arazi | |
| 21:13 | thd | +1 |
| 21:13 | cait | +1, -1.. you know how it works :) |
| 21:13 | nancyk | +1 |
| 21:13 | JesseM | +1 |
| 21:13 | jmsasse | +1 |
| 21:13 | drojf | +1 |
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| 21:14 | barton | +1 |
| 21:14 | learn_koha | hi anyone knows how to import bulk books to koha please? |
| 21:14 | cait | :) |
| 21:14 | tcohen++ :) | |
| 21:14 | learn_koha: we are int he middle of a meeting - maybe try again a bit later? | |
| 21:14 | #agreed Release Manager 3.18: Tomas Cohen Arazi | |
| 21:14 | Next are module maintainers | |
| 21:15 | BobB | back |
| 21:15 | learn_koha | ok |
| 21:15 | cait | mtj volunteered for the missing post of 3.16 rmaint, so we have a full set of rmaints now |
| 21:15 | any questions? | |
| 21:15 | eythian | #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT |
| 21:16 | nancyk | roles |
| 21:16 | cait | any problem with voting them as a group? |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | +1 |
| 21:16 | thd | +1 for groups |
| 21:16 | drojf | +1 for group voting |
| 21:16 | cait | please vote for the release maintainers now as listed on the wiki |
| 21:16 | thd | +1 |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | +1 |
| 21:16 | jmsasse | +1 |
| 21:17 | drojf | +1 |
| 21:17 | barton | +1 |
| 21:17 | nancyk | +1 |
| 21:17 | cait | #agreed Release Maintainers: Chris Cormack (3.18), Mason James (3.16), Fridolin Somers (3.14) |
| 21:17 | barton | although, just for the sake of completeness, who does "..." represent? |
| 21:17 | cait | barton: in case someone wanted to step up and maintain an older version |
| 21:17 | thd | barton: That is you |
| 21:17 | barton | HA |
| 21:17 | cait | it just didn't get cleaned up form the page yet |
| 21:18 | so any questions about the module maintainers? | |
| 21:18 | barton | I'm good, cait. |
| 21:18 | thd | Who was the only module maintainer who contributed last time? |
| 21:19 | cait | trying to leave some room for questions in between voting - please tell me if i am too fast or slow |
| 21:19 | thd: not sure that's a fair question :) | |
| 21:19 | I think it was the one doing OPAC | |
| 21:19 | thd | It is a very unfair question. |
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| 21:19 | cait | vote? |
| 21:19 | wahanui | i guess vote is going to the list regardless of what we decide |
| 21:20 | cait | Please vote for the module maintainers as listed on the wiki now |
| 21:20 | drojf | +1 |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | +1 |
| 21:20 | nancyk | +1 |
| 21:20 | eythian | +1 |
| 21:20 | thd | I assume that everyone contributes more than enough despite some adverse comment in the list. |
| 21:20 | gbengaadara | +1 |
| 21:20 | thd | +1 |
| 21:20 | jmsasse | +1 |
| 21:20 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13277: (QA followup) use t::lib::Mocks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]88e84535f89a384f3> / Bug 13277: t/SuggestionEngine_AuthorityFile.t shouldn't depend on the DB <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5cd32e57f50870d6f> / Bug 13278: (QA followup) use t::lib::Mocks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; |
| 21:21 | cait | ah, RM interrupts |
| 21:21 | #agreed Module Maintainers: Martin Renvoize (Auth), Colin Campbell (SIP), Kyle M Hall (Holds), Galen Charlton (Patron Privacy) | |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | We had no QA manager for years, that was not a reason to remove the role. Now QA is well established. I hope that it will be the same for Module Maintainers < I agree with PaulP |
| 21:21 | cait | i think it's worth giving it a second try |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | I think it's worth trying until we get there |
| 21:21 | barton | nod. |
| 21:21 | cait | next is translation manager |
| 21:21 | wahanui | i already had it that way, cait. |
| 21:21 | cait | any questions? |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | forget next |
| 21:22 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot next |
| 21:22 | cait | ... and bgkriegel++ while we are there |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | bgkriegel++ |
| 21:22 | cait | ok, please vote on translation manager now :) |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | +1 |
| 21:22 | thd | +1 |
| 21:22 | drojf | +1 |
| 21:22 | barton | +1 |
| 21:22 | nancyk | +1 |
| 21:22 | eythian | +1 |
| 21:23 | cait | #agreed Translation Manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel |
| 21:23 | BobB | wahanui: next? |
| 21:23 | wahanui | i don't know, bobb |
| 21:23 | cait | i'd like to combine the documentation roles into one vote |
| 21:23 | and wuestions about documentation manager or database documentation manager? | |
| 21:24 | please vote for (database) documentation manager | |
| 21:24 | thd | +1 |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | +1 |
| 21:24 | nancyk | +1 |
| 21:24 | drojf | +1 |
| 21:24 | eythian | +1 |
| 21:24 | talljoy_phone | +1 |
| 21:25 | edveal | +1 |
| 21:25 | cait | #agreed (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard |
| 21:25 | dani | +1 |
| 21:25 | cait | oh sorry |
| 21:25 | sent too fast | |
| 21:25 | #chair drojf | |
| 21:25 | huginn | Current chairs: cait drojf |
| 21:25 | cait | you got randomly picked to do the votes for qa :) |
| 21:25 | drojf | oops |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | #agreed Documentation manager: Nicole Engard |
| 21:26 | cait | thx wizzyrea |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | yep nw |
| 21:26 | cait | not sure if it sticks without being chair |
| 21:26 | drojf | ok then, please vote for qa manager now |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | +1 I for one welcome our lovely QA overlord. |
| 21:26 | eythian | +1 |
| 21:27 | nancyk | +1 |
| 21:27 | jmsasse | +1 |
| 21:27 | talljoy | +1 |
| 21:27 | drojf | am i still allowed to vote? ^^ |
| 21:27 | +1 | |
| 21:27 | thd | +1 |
| 21:28 | drojf | #agreed Quality Assurance Manager Katrin Fischer |
| 21:28 | cait | thx :) drojf++ |
| 21:28 | bag | cait++ |
| 21:28 | cait | next on the list is our QA team |
| 21:28 | drojf | do i have to rechair you? :) |
| 21:28 | cait | any questions? |
| 21:28 | drojf: we both are now :) | |
| 21:29 | ok, please vote on the qa team now | |
| 21:29 | drojf | +1 |
| 21:29 | nancyk | +1 |
| 21:30 | thd | +1 |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | +1 |
| 21:30 | eythian | +1 |
| 21:30 | talljoy | +1 |
| 21:31 | cait | #agreed QA Team: Marcel de Rooy, Jonathan Druart, Paul Poulain, Christopher Brannon, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize, Kyle M Hall |
| 21:31 | ok, next is packaging manager... do we have a volunteer for that? | |
| 21:31 | talljoy | cait's minions |
| 21:31 | cait | i wish :) |
| 21:31 | ok, we have one, it#s eythian | |
| 21:31 | please vote for packaging manager :) | |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | +1 |
| 21:32 | drojf | +1 |
| 21:32 | eythian | ±0 |
| 21:32 | barton | +1 |
| 21:32 | nancyk | +1 |
| 21:32 | thd | +1 |
| 21:32 | gbengaadara | +1 |
| 21:32 | cait | #agreed Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat |
| 21:32 | last one is bug wrangler | |
| 21:32 | any questions? | |
| 21:33 | please vote :) | |
| 21:33 | barton | +1 |
| 21:33 | nancyk | +1 |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | +1 |
| 21:33 | talljoy | +1 |
| 21:33 | thd | +1 |
| 21:33 | drojf | +1 |
| 21:33 | barton | (+2 if magnus does neat stuff with kohadevbox) |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 21:34 | jmsasse | +1 |
| 21:34 | eythian | +1 |
| 21:34 | thd | cait: There is one more category added. |
| 21:34 | cait | #agreed Bug Wrangler: Magnus Enger |
| 21:34 | yes | |
| 21:34 | i am not sure how to deal with that | |
| 21:34 | because the nominations were added after the first meeting today | |
| 21:35 | drojf | not that i don't like the category but i think we should vote that next time then? |
| 21:35 | thd | The first meeting can vote again next month. |
| 21:35 | cait | i am not sure it would make sense to split like that |
| 21:35 | i'd like to not spread out a vote over a month :) | |
| 21:35 | thd | cait: OK, I agree. |
| 21:35 | cait | i don't think people won't be voted |
| 21:36 | did you plan to start right away? | |
| 21:36 | thd | cait: no, you should read my proposal. |
| 21:37 | cait | i haven't yet to be honest |
| 21:37 | didn't have the time | |
| 21:37 | thd | However, the whole role should be open to everyone always. |
| 21:37 | BobB | hi cait, I can speak to this |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | Personally, I think if they are volunteering, and they want to do it, they should. |
| 21:38 | drojf | i don't think postponing the vote should/will keep anyone from volunteering on things |
| 21:38 | barton | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:38 | BobB | #info the first meeting decided to advertise the role on the list and call for nominations |
| 21:38 | cait | I think so too |
| 21:38 | we don't keep people from cleaning up the wiki now :) | |
| 21:38 | BobB | #info Then there were no nominations, now there are |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | yeah, vote next time, if it really requires a vote? |
| 21:38 | BobB | #info So I think it still needs a short note to the list, but now ... |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | I guess that's the part I don't understand, why it actually needs a vote? |
| 21:39 | BobB | that note can point to the wiki and existing nominations |
| 21:39 | thd | I wrote the entry in plural form like bug wrangler. |
| 21:39 | BobB | and we vote at next month's meeting |
| 21:39 | in the meantime, of course, those willing continue | |
| 21:39 | barton | makes sense, BobB. |
| 21:39 | cait | wizzyrea: i think because we want to give it a more official touch :) |
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| 21:40 | wizzyrea | as you wish |
| 21:40 | cait | the same as for other roles |
| 21:40 | #info official elections for Wiki curator to take place next meeting | |
| 21:41 | BobB | cool |
| 21:41 | cait | we got a release team! |
| 21:41 | BobB | well done cait and thank you!!!! to all team members |
| 21:41 | cait | #topic Establish a Road Map for Koha |
| 21:41 | Topic for #koha is now Establish a Road Map for Koha (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2) | |
| 21:42 | BobB | #info this arises from a discussion on the sidelines of KohaCon |
| 21:42 | #info Until at least 3.12 we had a roadmap that was time (release) based | |
| 21:42 | #info the idea is to re-create the roadmap, but not time based | |
| 21:43 | #info so it serves a little like a strategic plan for the code, less formal | |
| 21:43 | #info we suggest taht the first meeting after the Release should review the release and discuss updates to the roadmap | |
| 21:44 | #info but maintaining the roadmap can be a continuous process, of course | |
| 21:44 | #info the other idea was that items in the roadmap would be described in just a few lines ... | |
| 21:44 | with a link to another page providing a full RFS | |
| 21:44 | that | |
| 21:44 | 's it | |
| 21:45 | #info with a link to another page providing a full RFC | |
| 21:45 | even | |
| 21:45 | bag | thanks again BobB |
| 21:45 | thd | BobB: You seem to be describing a wiki. |
| 21:46 | BobB | it would of course be a page on teh wiki |
| 21:46 | on phone | |
| 21:46 | cait | I think we had talked about the wiki too in argentina when discussing this |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | https://www.drupal.org/roadmap I would like to see a page like this |
| 21:46 | on our website | |
| 21:47 | cait | i think maybe draft on the wiki |
| 21:47 | and when we have a stable state we could move it to the website? | |
| 21:47 | or have a link | |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | https://core.trac.wordpress.org/roadmap or something like this |
| 21:48 | the dashboard does some of that | |
| 21:48 | mario | +1 |
| 21:48 | bag | I think for now we are just trying to get it going again |
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| 21:48 | wizzyrea | I'm suggesting ways in which it could be done ;) |
| 21:48 | bag | the process and what it's like will come with time :) for now - yes let's do it or not |
| 21:48 | cait | #link https://core.trac.wordpress.org/roadmap |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | Koha needs a roadmac |
| 21:49 | thd | Is wiki content ever stable? |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | roadmap. |
| 21:49 | cait | #link https://www.drupal.org/roadmap |
| 21:49 | i am pro trying a roadmap, but i think we need tomake sure it's not a promise | |
| 21:49 | for a certain release or date | |
| 21:49 | well looks like a promise | |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Roadmap |
| 21:50 | bugzilla has a nice, wiki based, example. | |
| 21:50 | drojf | when the roadmap is discussed after releases it may be a good moment to transfer a current state from teh wiki to the website |
| 21:50 | cait | #link https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Roadmap |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | which makes use of the internal bugzilla priorities |
| 21:50 | BobB | back |
| 21:51 | bag | welcome back BobB |
| 21:52 | cait | the first meeting suggested discussing the road map more at the next meeting, which will be shortly after release I think |
| 21:52 | BobB | indeed cait |
| 21:52 | bag | yeah lets do the roadmap next meeting :D |
| 21:52 | cait | also to 'Have a retrospective meeting as part of the release process' |
| 21:52 | drojf | did you vote yes or no in general for a roadmap in the first meeting? |
| 21:53 | thd | Sadly, I am unlikely toi be able to attend the next meeting but I will read the logs and any discussion on the mailing list. |
| 21:53 | cait | we could collect examples on the wiki until then, or on the next agenda |
| 21:53 | i think it got positive response | |
| 21:53 | BobB | will keep you posted, thd |
| 21:53 | cait | BobB and bag were there too this morning, so I hope they correct me :) |
| 21:53 | thd | My specific proposal for the wiki was mostly related to other maintenance issues. |
| 21:53 | cait | well ... when i got something wrong :) |
| 21:54 | BobB | it got positive response withut a formal vote |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | it's a good idea. |
| 21:54 | drojf | i think it's a good idea |
| 21:54 | bag | there were no objections is maybe a good way to put it |
| 21:54 | drojf | yes, exactly :D |
| 21:55 | cait | ok, so going to add ideas to next meetings agenda? |
| 21:55 | bag | cait++ |
| 21:55 | BobB | yes please |
| 21:55 | cait | #agreed We will gather information and ideas for the road map on the next meetings agenda |
| 21:55 | #topic Establish new roles within the release team | |
| 21:55 | Topic for #koha is now Establish new roles within the release team (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2) | |
| 21:55 | cait | we already heard a bit about the idea of having a wiki curator i think |
| 21:56 | the other idea is having a communication manager | |
| 21:56 | BobB: could you explain? | |
| 21:56 | thd | One of the key things I examine for any software project which posts one is the development roadmap. |
| 21:56 | BobB | yeah I think we have resolved wiki curator for now? |
| 21:56 | cait | thd: i think the danger is that we can't give guarantees formost things - as we are on time based - hope we can avoid wrong expectations |
| 21:57 | thd | I also prefer feature based releases but that has not worked as well for the project. |
| 21:57 | drojf | i understood the roadmap to be not time/releasebased so i see no problem there |
| 21:57 | BobB | thd that is a core aspect of the proposal - the roadmap will not be time based |
| 21:57 | bag | drojf++ good comment |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | A statement of "these are the things we're working on, but we don't know when we'll get them done" |
| 21:58 | or "these are the goals we have for the project" | |
| 21:58 | and maybe a statement of priority. | |
| 21:58 | BobB | yes, prominently |
| 21:59 | or just whether it is being worked on now or not | |
| 21:59 | cait | should we omve on to Communication Manager? |
| 21:59 | BobB | #info on the sidelines of KohaCon there was discussion about adding a Communications Manager role to the release team |
| 22:00 | bag | yes let's move on cait |
| 22:00 | BobB | #info this is to be a coordinating role, more than a doing role |
| 22:00 | we thought it would be a role a librarian could fulfill, rather than a developer, | |
| 22:01 | so that it does not consume development time | |
| 22:01 | but is active in seeing the project is promoted more than it is now | |
| 22:01 | So: prompting other people to write stuff, | |
| 22:01 | liaising with the (excellent) newsletter team | |
| 22:01 | bag | BobB: is this written up anywhere? or waiting for vote and then forwarding to mailing list? |
| 22:02 | BobB | its in the minutes of the first meeting I guess |
| 22:02 | not elsewhere, in any great detail | |
| 22:03 | bag | ok cool - I have some people in mind |
| 22:03 | BobB | I don't have anything to hand bag |
| 22:03 | thd | Is this the role Kahtiki [please correct my spelling]? |
| 22:03 | BobB | I think the question is: do we endorse the role |
| 22:03 | if so, it can be fleshed out and call for nominations put out to the list | |
| 22:04 | drojf | is it supposed to be some kind of official spokesperson to direct inquieres to? |
| 22:04 | bag | BobB: no worries - I'm thinking a phone call will work from me (of course) |
| 22:04 | drojf: nope | |
| 22:04 | thd: no | |
| 22:04 | BobB | droif not necessarily, but it could be if the community had that level of confidence |
| 22:04 | so maybe that could come later | |
| 22:05 | drojf | ok |
| 22:05 | cait | i think we started with a discussion that we do great things, but don't tlak about it |
| 22:05 | and trying to think of ways how we could make that happen | |
| 22:05 | BobB | Stuff gets on list but not pushed as a press release e.g. to Marshall Breeding |
| 22:05 | wizzyrea | we should ask marshall breeding to publish our newsletter. |
| 22:06 | drojf | makes sense. thinking of the excellent video that was done in argentina… we could probably have more things pushed to the outside world |
| 22:06 | bag | rangi had a few good things to say in it too - check the logs |
| 22:06 | BobB | we just found out there is a union catalogue in Argentina with a thousand public libraries: wow! but who knows that? |
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| 22:07 | bag | the idea is someone to help us all promote koha better (not protect it) |
| 22:07 | but not an evangelist | |
| 22:07 | BobB | the closed source systems have marketing departments, we have word of mouth :) |
| 22:07 | cait | orthe public libraries in greece |
| 22:08 | BobB | or phillipines or turkey ... |
| 22:08 | bag | sort of more a journalist |
| 22:08 | yeah what cait and BobB are saying | |
| 22:08 | cait | turkey... not greece, although who knows? :) |
| 22:08 | BobB | more to pull stuff together and to get it out there, rather than to do stuff oneself |
| 22:09 | bag | and of course whomeever volunteers for this - will help create and shape the roll |
| 22:09 | drojf | BobB: i think that may have to do with the "free & open" thing. you can get every information you would ever like to have about koha by yourself. that is not the case with proprietary systems. but we should not assume that everyone will know that and/or want to go looking for all the things themselves |
| 22:09 | cait | should we have a quick vote to see if people like the idea? |
| 22:09 | bag | yup good point drojf |
| 22:10 | BobB | exactly droif |
| 22:10 | bag | (voted this morning) |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | I like it, but I don't know if it's going to be economically possible for a volunteer to do what you are asking. |
| 22:10 | cait | i think if we got a bit more done than now... already a win |
| 22:10 | and maybe it could grow into a team? | |
| 22:10 | BobB | if they do a bit, its more than now :) |
| 22:12 | We can put it out to the list, if there is not response, nothing is lost, | |
| 22:12 | cait | ok, quick like/not like vote? |
| 22:12 | BobB | but if someone comes forward, its a win |
| 22:12 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ase_Announcements <-- david nind did this |
| 22:12 | cait | +1 like it |
| 22:12 | rangi | and used to, (still does some) update stuff |
| 22:12 | i think thats a good start | |
| 22:12 | cait | yeah that's pretty cool |
| 22:12 | bag | right thank you for saying that cait and BobB - more is better than nothing and being overwhelmed |
| 22:13 | drojf | +1 i like it too |
| 22:13 | eythian | actually even someone sending notices about releases to the places that are likely to publish that sort of thing would do good. |
| 22:14 | cait | first meeting agreed to have BobB send something to the mailing list |
| 22:14 | i thik as we heard no 'no' - we can do that? | |
| 22:15 | bag | yuppers |
| 22:15 | cait | #action BobB will email the mailing list about the new roles |
| 22:15 | BobB | ok |
| 22:15 | cait | #topic KohaCon15 |
| 22:15 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon15 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2) | |
| 22:15 | cait | gbengaadara: still around? :) |
| 22:15 | gbengaadara | yup |
| 22:16 | #info kohacon15 will be between 19th - 25th October 2015 | |
| 22:16 | bag | heya gbengaadara |
| 22:16 | gbengaadara | hi bag |
| 22:16 | #info Conference 19th - 21st, Hackfest 23rd - 25th | |
| 22:17 | Done some update to http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/ after the first meeting | |
| 22:17 | Attempting to edit the wiki pages | |
| 22:17 | rangi | excellent |
| 22:17 | gbengaadara | but still finding my feet |
| 22:18 | * BobB | has to leave now, apologies |
| 22:18 | barton | BobB++ |
| 22:18 | cait | BobB++ |
| 22:18 | barton | nice explanations earlier. |
| 22:18 | bag | later BobB |
| 22:18 | good work gbengaadara | |
| 22:19 | adding the airport info like rangi asked is key :) | |
| 22:19 | rangi | yep he has :) |
| 22:19 | cait | #info http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/ updated now :) |
| 22:19 | gbengaadara | Should have some info in the kohacon15 page on the wiki in a couple of days too. |
| 22:19 | bag | anybody have recommendations or comments for gbengaadara |
| 22:20 | cait | not right now - looks pretty good :) |
| 22:20 | maybe we should add a short note to the website about KohaCon15 if we haven't yet? | |
| 22:20 | gbengaadara | will keep info coming and updated. |
| 22:21 | drojf | website is looking good, thanks gbengaadara |
| 22:21 | gbengaadara | cait: that will be great |
| 22:21 | cait | wizzyrea: coudl we add a link to the other site for now? |
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| 22:22 | wizzyrea | Sure |
| 22:22 | cait | #action adding a note/link to the kc website about kohacon15 |
| 22:22 | gbengaadara | thats all info for now on kohacon15 |
| 22:23 | cait | thx gbengaadara |
| 22:23 | rangi | thanks gbengaadara |
| 22:23 | cait | #topic Koha on FLOSS weekly |
| 22:23 | Topic for #koha is now Koha on FLOSS weekly (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2) | |
| 22:23 | magnuse | just an idea from me, that i wanted to put out there :-) |
| 22:23 | * magnuse | is not volunteering |
| 22:23 | cait | aaah there you are :) |
| 22:24 | it fits into the communication manager idea... | |
| 22:24 | drojf | i watched the evergreen episode earlier today. wouldn't hurt if anyone wants to do it |
| 22:25 | cait | i think the hard bit is finding the volunteer |
| 22:25 | magnuse | yup |
| 22:26 | cait | hm not sur how to get thi smoving for now |
| 22:26 | magnuse | nah, just consider the idea aired, and move on :-) |
| 22:27 | drojf | let the communication manager handle it ^^ |
| 22:27 | cait | ok |
| 22:27 | we had no actions form last meeting/they got all done | |
| 22:27 | so jumping over that | |
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| 22:28 | cait | #topic Set time and date of next general IRC meeting |
| 22:28 | Topic for #koha is now Set time and date of next general IRC meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 19 November 2014, part 2) | |
| 22:28 | cait | we have a suggestion for 17th from the first meeting |
| 22:28 | magnuse | good night or other time of the day, #koha! |
| 22:28 | thd | I suggest an earlier time |
| 22:28 | dcook | Mmm, I thought I'd missed this meeting |
| 22:29 | wizzyrea | gbengaadara: http://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon15/ |
| 22:29 | thd | The first meeting time a UTC 5 is a poor time for Europe. |
| 22:29 | cait | for europe a bit earlier would get more attendance |
| 22:29 | i think | |
| 22:29 | well it's problem, if we don't do much earlier, we will still be outside of work time - so not sure | |
| 22:29 | gbengaadara | wizzyrea: thanks |
| 22:29 | thd | This second meeting time should be a good time for Europe if the first one cannot be. |
| 22:30 | bag | yeah can we shift the timing of things a bit - missed ashimema and paul_p and such |
| 22:30 | cait | hm what about keep this time - for nz and australia |
| 22:30 | thd | UTC 18.00 would be somewhat better for Europe but perhaps not enough better. |
| 22:30 | cait | and move the first by 2 hours |
| 22:30 | or 3 | |
| 22:30 | 9 am is a good time in europe - not usre if uk is -1/+1 | |
| 22:31 | 8 and 21? | |
| 22:31 | wahanui | 29 |
| 22:31 | drojf | lol |
| 22:31 | thd | Is 9 am not a problem with many working people in transit? |
| 22:31 | cait | normally at 9 most should be at work |
| 22:31 | i think | |
| 22:32 | drojf - what do you think? | |
| 22:32 | or 9 and 21? | |
| 22:32 | wahanui | 30 |
| 22:32 | cait | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 22:32 | wahanui | thanks cait :) |
| 22:33 | cait | any opinions? |
| 22:33 | gbengaadara: what time was better for you? | |
| 22:33 | gbengaadara | 9 is ok |
| 22:34 | cait | i am bad with timezones, so someone needs to check if i am making bad suggestions :) |
| 22:34 | suggestion would then be: 17th december, 9 and 21 utc | |
| 22:34 | ok? | |
| 22:34 | gbengaadara | If I miss one I should be able to make the other |
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| 22:34 | gbengaadara | ok |
| 22:34 | drojf | got disconnected |
| 22:35 | cait | can i get some +1 -1? |
| 22:35 | or is everyone asleep now? :) | |
| 22:35 | thd | BobB: Is that good? |
| 22:35 | +1 | |
| 22:35 | rangi | +1 |
| 22:35 | cait | #agreed december 17th - 9 and 21 utc |
| 22:35 | gbengaadara | +1 |
| 22:35 | cait | #endmeeting |
| 22:35 | Topic for #koha is now Please read the new code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/. The next Koha General IRC meeting is 19 November at 5UTC and 21UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
| 22:35 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Nov 19 22:35:47 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 22:35 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-11-19-21.03.html | |
| 22:35 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]4-11-19-21.03.txt | |
| 22:35 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]19-21.03.log.html | |
| 22:35 | drojf | i said 9/21 would work for europe, either one or the other. that didn't gegt through it seems ^^ |
| 22:36 | bag | thd BobB had to step out |
| 22:36 | eythian | that was a long meeting |
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| 22:36 | cait | a bit - the elections make it long |
| 22:36 | bag | not too bad 35 minutes - I think this mornings was longer-ish |
| 22:36 | cait | bag: 1:35 :) |
| 22:36 | drojf | 95 minutes |
| 22:36 | bag | doh |
| 22:36 | drojf | heh |
| 22:37 | cait | but it's good it felt shorter to you :) |
| 22:37 | bag | I love this stuff |
| 22:37 | always seems short when talking koha | |
| 22:37 | cait | bag++ :) |
| 22:38 | * eythian | wonders if master will build today |
| 22:39 | bag | hey eythian did you see the comments from tomas on http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 |
| 22:39 | huginn | 04Bug 11998: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues |
| 22:40 | eythian | I did, will look at it today. |
| 22:40 | actually, will do that now while this tries to build | |
| 22:42 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/about/ > any objections to that? I already cleared it with tcohen |
| 22:43 | bag | wizzyrea++ |
| 22:44 | wizzyrea | May do a news item about it as well. |
| 22:44 | rangi | cool |
| 22:45 | cait | i like it |
| 22:45 | wizzyrea: news_item++ :) | |
| 22:46 | wizzyrea: tiny typo in the ibadan link - missing : | |
| 22:46 | wizzyrea | ah thanks |
| 22:47 | * eythian | notes that master still fails to build. |
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| 22:47 | rangi | theres a bunch of patches that need sign off |
| 22:47 | that fix the db dependencies | |
| 22:47 | wizzyrea | heh, no, there was an extra http: on there. |
| 22:48 | cait | ah, browser made something weird of it then :) |
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| 22:51 | * eythian | thinks git-bz needs a thing that says "apply the patch on this bug, and the patches on all the ones it depends on." |
| 22:52 | dcook | ^ |
| 22:52 | cait | eythian: you could make it do that... |
| 22:52 | eythian | I don't really know python well, but also don't have time |
| 22:52 | cait | and while yo uare on it... can you make it work with a non ascii character in the commit message and doing git bz attach -e? |
| 22:52 | that would save me a ton of time | |
| 22:53 | eythian | ha ha python is stupid |
| 22:53 | actually, an easier thing would be to allow a list of bugs to be passed. Even that doesn't work. | |
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| 22:56 | eythian | oh, I had an old version of master. |
| 22:57 | dcook | Keep meaning to take a look at ol' python |
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| 23:03 | wajasu | ethian: i was going to get my docker kohapatch have a way to give a list of patches, maybe query the depends on, and create a branch with them applied upon instance being run |
| 23:03 | when i signoff and code needs a tweak to pass QA code format rules, can I amend a signoff patch to tweak it, then signoff the tweak, to prevent QA fail? | |
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| 23:16 | wizzyrea | @marc 008 |
| 23:16 | huginn | wizzyrea: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. [] |
| 23:21 | eythian | oh hey, tests passed |
| 23:21 | wtf | |
| 23:22 | then why did the build fail | |
| 23:22 | oh, dependency issues | |
| 23:22 | dcook | "...potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes" |
| 23:22 | lols | |
| 23:23 | eythian | no, typo in debian/control |
| 23:23 | ohh | |
| 23:23 | no | |
| 23:25 | dcook | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfLcC1o85bo |
| 23:26 | eythian | no, the opposite. |
| 23:26 | the dependecies have been broken. | |
| 23:26 | (easy enough to fix though I expect) | |
| 23:27 | dcook | I don't have any more videos or images to express "I hope so" |
| 23:28 | eythian | well, KMFDM just came on. That's a good start. |
| 23:29 | dcook | I totally haven't listened to them in ages.. |
| 23:29 | eythian | neither |
| 23:29 | dcook | Mogwai just came on, which... I listen to them probably every other day, so that's less remarkable |
| 23:30 | eythian | I think this afternoon might have to be a 90's industrial afternoon. It's got that kind of feel to it. |
| 23:30 | but first, curry time while debian/control regenerates. | |
| 23:30 | dcook | Mmm curry |
| 23:30 | Alas, it's only morning | |
| 23:31 | * drojf | listens to wellington death metal :D |
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| 23:33 | drojf | or maybe that isn't true and it's auckland |
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