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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:33 | irma joined #koha | |
| 00:46 | eythian | http://worldmapswithout.nz/ |
| 00:48 | dcook | I love how they have Tasmania on some but still no NZ |
| 00:50 | Hehe | |
| 00:50 | My favourite is the one with TWO New Zealands | |
| 00:50 | eythian | yeah :) |
| 00:51 | dcook | Oh, eythian. You always know how to bring the laughs. |
| 00:51 | I feel better already. | |
| 00:52 | eythian | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M[…]us_Party#Policies <-- I guess these guys kept up at least one campaign promise (the second one) even though they didn't make it into government. |
| 00:54 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:03 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 01:03 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (1:30 PM NZDT on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:03 | eythian | papa: I guess I brought some of the warm back from Brisbane. |
| 01:04 | wizzyrea | 21! |
| 01:04 | * wizzyrea | runs for the door |
| 01:04 | eythian | wizzyrea lies, she didn't even move. |
| 01:04 | wizzyrea | ...yes |
| 01:04 | YET. | |
| 01:04 | >.> | |
| 01:04 | actually I have things that need doing that can't be done whilst frolicking in the sun. | |
| 03:12 | eythian | http://youtu.be/SdmDb8ozcXc <-- LEGO Particle Accelerator |
| 03:14 | cjh | :D |
| 03:17 | wizzyrea | haha that's adorable |
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| 04:06 | dcook | Now where's that bug I was commenting on earlier.. |
| 04:11 | eythian | over there --> |
| 04:18 | dcook | You see... it's funny you say that |
| 04:18 | Because the chat window is on my left monitor | |
| 04:18 | And I just opened the bug report on my right monitor | |
| 04:18 | I don't think there are any hidden cameras behind me.. | |
| 04:19 | Well, I suppose they wouldn't be called hidden if they were so easy to find | |
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| 05:15 | * dcook | looks for that joindin link that eythian posted earlier.. |
| 05:16 | dcook | Ah, easy as |
| 05:16 | * eythian | points to /lastlog |
| 05:16 | dcook | Ooo, I was interested to see Hugh's full disk encryption one as well.. |
| 05:16 | Do you know where they plan to host the video? | |
| 05:17 | eythian | youtube, iinet (I think), and I'm going to upload them to archive.org when they're all ready. |
| 05:17 | They were uploading them on the last day, so you may be able to find some now. | |
| 05:17 | dcook | Hmm |
| 05:18 | Nothing jumping out at the moment. Will have to do a second try..\ | |
| 05:18 | eythian | there's too many OSDCs now. |
| 05:19 | dcook | Yep |
| 05:19 | Let's see... filters... | |
| 05:19 | Ooo OSDC Australia channel... | |
| 05:19 | That might do it | |
| 05:20 | Yarp. I see at least a few | |
| 05:20 | Yay! Jacinta's is there! | |
| 05:20 | Hmm, those Perl Training folk really like their hats :p | |
| 05:20 | Ah, there you are too | |
| 05:21 | eythian | urlme the channel, my google is failing me |
| 05:21 | dcook | https://www.youtube.com/user/osdc14 |
| 05:21 | Hmm, now whether to watch videos or try to build this object class.. | |
| 05:21 | eythian | thanks |
| 05:22 | dcook | np |
| 05:22 | eythian | dual monitors :) |
| 05:22 | dcook | But then how will I listen to my music? :p |
| 05:22 | There's a sci fi movie for that I think.. | |
| 05:22 | Listening to presentations and music while coding and watching the video | |
| 05:22 | I'm sure it's possible :p | |
| 05:23 | eythian | I can't do it :) |
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| 05:24 | dcook | I'll save the videos for the morning :) |
| 05:24 | Excited to watch them though! | |
| 05:25 | Are we still using Class::Accessor in Koha? | |
| 05:29 | eythian | I am, yeah |
| 05:30 | dcook | Cool. I hadn't noticed it in a little while, but I'll keep using it as well then |
| 05:31 | Hmm, bodily metaphors break down a bit at some point | |
| 05:32 | I think about "ingesting" records, "digesting" records, but the logical progression just isn't very pleasant | |
| 05:32 | eythian | haha |
| 05:34 | dcook | Hmm, I don't know if it's worth making a module for this behaviour |
| 05:35 | But I definitely need a sub... | |
| 05:35 | Are we avoiding defining subs in .pl scripts? | |
| 05:35 | eythian | I'm not sure, but that rings a bell. They are problematic with plack for reasons I don't fully understand. |
| 05:36 | dcook | Hmm, maybe not a bad idea to use a module then |
| 05:36 | eythian | it also forces you to keep as much logic out of the .pl as you can |
| 05:36 | ideally, it'd only be controlling the data going to the template. | |
| 05:36 | dcook | Well, in this case it's not even going to a template |
| 05:37 | There's a cronjob to download records via OAI | |
| 05:37 | Then another one which transforms them via XSLT then adds/updates them in Koha | |
| 05:37 | The download is pretty straight forwardd, but the transforming is borderline | |
| 05:37 | Actually maybe Marcel's XSLT handler is enough.. | |
| 05:37 | I thought that I'd have to write something extra but now I don't remember why | |
| 05:38 | eythian | oh right. Well, still the same idea, it should just be transforming the data for display. |
| 05:38 | display/export/whatever | |
| 05:38 | dcook | Yeah |
| 05:38 | I need the sandwich filling | |
| 05:38 | AddBiblio and ModBiblio are my end points | |
| 05:39 | Well, that's not true.. | |
| 05:39 | I guess I need to update my oai tables to mark them as processed afterward | |
| 05:39 | Ahh right | |
| 05:39 | I need a sub because I'll be calling the transformation code a few times in different circumstances | |
| 05:40 | Although I suppose I could actually get around that by being smarter with the logic | |
| 05:42 | Meh, might just write it then can revise later | |
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| 07:42 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:56 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:56 | wahanui | salut, alex_a |
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| 08:12 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 08:17 | drojf | good morning #koha |
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| 08:18 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:18 | wahanui | what's up, gaetan_B |
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| 08:33 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 08:35 | drojf | hi magnuse |
| 08:40 | marcelr | hi drojf magnuse |
| 08:40 | drojf | hi marcelr |
| 08:41 | marcelr | long time no see? |
| 08:41 | magnuse | hiya marcelr and drojf |
| 08:42 | drojf | true |
| 08:42 | magnuse | yay for http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.20 - now a ll we need is a 3.16.x maint! |
| 08:43 | cait | hi all |
| 08:43 | and bye all :) off work today :) | |
| 08:45 | magnuse | guten morgen cait - have fun! |
| 08:45 | drojf | hi cait |
| 08:46 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 08:48 | cait | :) |
| 08:48 | getting a new kitchen this week! *squee* | |
| 08:49 | drojf | woohoo |
| 08:50 | magnuse | yay! |
| 08:51 | drojf | what happened to the position of live-cd manager? *hides* |
| 08:56 | magnuse | drojf: voluteer for it if you like? ;-) |
| 09:03 | cait | ok, timeto leave :) |
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| 09:25 | magnuse | kia ora Viktor |
| 09:26 | Viktor | Kia ora magnuse! |
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| 10:37 | * magnuse | looks quizzically at bug 11211 |
| 10:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar |
| 10:37 | magnuse | cait: can you remember if you got the tests in t/db_dependent/Calendar.t and t/db_dependent/Holidays.t to run? |
| 10:38 | cait | on master? |
| 10:38 | aah | |
| 10:38 | magnuse | no, when testing 11211 |
| 10:38 | cait | magnuse: i am not sure, it's normally one of the first things I do - i think theymight have run ok, but not sure |
| 10:39 | magnuse | i get this: Undefined subroutine &main::ModRepeatingEvent called at t/db_dependent/Calendar.t line 22. |
| 10:39 | which seems weird | |
| 10:40 | Joubu | magnuse: I suspect a use missing in the test file |
| 10:40 | magnuse | it has "use C4::Calendar;" |
| 10:40 | cait | Joubu++ thx |
| 10:41 | magnuse: hm ormaybe a dependency? | |
| 10:42 | Joubu | magnuse: I don't get this error |
| 10:43 | 11211 on top of master | |
| 10:43 | t/db_dependent/Calendar.t .. ok | |
| 10:43 | All tests successful. | |
| 10:43 | (same for t/db_dependent/Holidays.t) | |
| 10:44 | magnuse | gah! |
| 10:44 | i'm on a gitified setup, maybe that is doing it... | |
| 10:46 | when i run this, Calendar.t is the only one that fails: $ sudo koha-shell -c "prove t/db_dependent/C*.t" kohadev | |
| 10:47 | the script that lets you edit the calendar, calendar.pl seems to work as it should | |
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| 12:04 | ashimema | @later tell eythian thanks for looking at the SIP bug so quickly when you got back :) |
| 12:04 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:06 | ashimema | anyone here happen to know if google books changed their api recently.. |
| 12:07 | we're suddenly finding book jackets not working well in one of our apps. | |
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| 12:55 | tcohen | morning! |
| 12:55 | @later tell eythian, thanks! | |
| 12:55 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:55 | tcohen | eythian++ |
| 12:55 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
| 12:56 | tcohen++ #for another RM term.. | |
| 12:56 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:59 | tcohen | crazy_people++ |
| 12:59 | magnuse | lol |
| 12:59 | * magnuse | hopes more people will sign up for bug wrangling |
| 13:01 | drojf | when are we going to vote? |
| 13:01 | tcohen | cait has been doing a lot |
| 13:04 | magnuse | the only role missing is 3.16.x rmaint? |
| 13:04 | next community meeting would probably be ok for voting? | |
| 13:04 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_19_November_2014 | |
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| 13:15 | magnuse | there, i added voting to the agenda http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ember_2014#Agenda |
| 13:16 | tcohen | magnuse++ |
| 13:17 | drojf | too early for me to know about bug wrangling ;) |
| 13:19 | but i a still allowed to to that without a title, right ;) | |
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| 13:20 | tcohen | oleonard: can u help me figure where to put a note on the sample XSL files that could be used during Z/SRU import? |
| 13:20 | oleonard | I don't understand |
| 13:21 | tcohen | i'm adding some .xsl files on bug 6681 |
| 13:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6681 major, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Signed Off , When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links and items also get imported |
| 13:21 | tcohen | and I need to document (on the UI) that they are available as examples for usage |
| 13:21 | should I just put it on the help section? | |
| 13:22 | oleonard | That would certainly be the right place to start |
| 13:23 | tcohen | something like "You can use 'Del952.xsl, Del9LinksExcept952.xsl' if you want to delete attached items and $9 links" |
| 13:24 | oleonard | Sorry I don't understand the bug well enough to comment right now |
| 13:25 | Joubu | magnuse: did you see 8133 depends on 11211? |
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| 13:46 | magnuse | drojf: sure you can wrangle without a title, but having 20 wranglers makes us look rock solid ;-) |
| 13:46 | * oleonard | prints "Rockin' Wranglers" t-shirts for everyone |
| 13:47 | magnuse | Joubu: yup, i get the conflict when i apply 8133 on top of 11211 |
| 13:47 | drojf | oh a t-shirt :O |
| 13:47 | ashimema | t-shirts sound good :) |
| 13:48 | tcohen | i want one! |
| 13:54 | marcelr, oleonard: http://snag.gy/mr5AD.jpg | |
| 13:55 | marcelr | tcohen: looks good to me |
| 13:55 | tcohen | does it look close to ok? |
| 13:55 | ok | |
| 13:55 | thanks :-D | |
| 13:57 | ashimema | 'When retrieving records from external targets you may wish to automate some changes/fixes to those records. XSLT's allow you to achieved this; Koha ships with some sample XSLT files ready for use:' |
| 13:58 | You can already make changes to the records manually can you not..? | |
| 13:58 | Import, takes you back to editor where you can change stuff.. the xslt's just automate some common modifications for you right? | |
| 13:59 | tcohen | ashimema: you're right |
| 13:59 | ashimema | In which case... my above amendments may prove slightly more explanatory.. oleonard care to comment as another native speaker? |
| 13:59 | :) | |
| 13:59 | * marcelr | is no native speaker luckily :) |
| 13:59 | marcelr | at least of english.. |
| 14:00 | oleonard | "When retrieving records from external targets you may wish to automate some changes to those records. XSLT's allow you to do this. Koha ships with some sample XSLT files ready for use." |
| 14:00 | I would take out the "/fixes" and replace "achieve" with "do" | |
| 14:01 | ashimema | :).. I'de go with oleonards.. thanks for chipping in :) |
| 14:01 | marcelr | +1 |
| 14:01 | tcohen | +1 |
| 14:02 | oleonard | tcohen: I'm concerned about the difficulty of knowing what to enter in that "XSLT File(s)" field in the Z39.50 server form |
| 14:02 | tcohen | me too |
| 14:02 | oleonard | If it always looks in the same place, can we pull a list of existing files and make that a multi-select? |
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| 14:03 | tcohen | oleonard: i think we need some sort of XSLT registry |
| 14:03 | probably on the DB | |
| 14:03 | (instead of the filesystem) | |
| 14:04 | but i'm not sure we can have it for the release | |
| 14:04 | oleonard | Would a check of the filesystem be an acceptable solution in the interim? |
| 14:05 | * oleonard | says this without knowing how difficult it is to actually implement |
| 14:07 | tcohen | problem is we would be changing the current functionality, in which you can put whatever you want |
| 14:08 | (maybe outside koha's templates directory | |
| 14:08 | oleonard | I see |
| 14:08 | ashimema | Why not store the XSLT's themselves in the database.. like OPACUserCSS and similar sysprefs.. |
| 14:09 | marcelr | yes, it is interesting |
| 14:09 | ashimema | perhaps in their own table though.. as you'de expect there to be any number of XSLT's present |
| 14:09 | marcelr | bug 12973 |
| 14:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Allow passing code to XSLT_Handler instead of filename |
| 14:09 | marcelr | the code can come from a table |
| 14:09 | can->could | |
| 14:09 | ashimema | it's basically just a key/value at that point |
| 14:09 | cool | |
| 14:12 | oleonard | I'm curious how many of you run your Koha sites over SSL? |
| 14:13 | marcelr | i am in the process of going to ssl |
| 14:13 | just curious about performance issues | |
| 14:14 | tcohen | oleonard: we do here |
| 14:14 | the 46 instances behind a reverse proxy | |
| 14:15 | (staff only for now) | |
| 14:16 | ashimema: not only key/value, I'd add information on what it expects and what its output would be | |
| 14:16 | so we know in which context the XSLT should be offered for use | |
| 14:17 | ashimema | sounds good to me tcohen. |
| 14:17 | oleanard,marcelr.. all our sites run behind ssl (https) | |
| 14:17 | tcohen | w've just discussed that with bgkriegel on the parking lot =D |
| 14:17 | ashimema | performance is a non-issue with it these days, computer are plain good at encryption ;) |
| 14:18 | only issue outstnading I know of is mixed content warning on google book jackets.. | |
| 14:18 | otherwise I think everything works as expected.. | |
| 14:19 | for google book jackets.. I don't think there is any solution without breaking their api terms and conditions (i.e. passing their data through a proxy or caching is not allowed I believe) | |
| 14:19 | tcohen.. you reverse proxy.. intersting | |
| 14:19 | tcohen | we have a wildcard SSL certificate |
| 14:20 | and use nginx in front of our stock koha-common setup | |
| 14:20 | ah, I recall, the koha<->proxy connexion uses a self-signed SSL certificate too | |
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| 14:24 | marcelr | see you later |
| 14:33 | Joubu | Does someone have the same problem as oleonard on checkin (bug 13226)? |
| 14:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13226 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Significant slowdown of checkins with fix for notices ignoring the dateformat preference |
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| 15:08 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13211: DBRev 3.17.00.051 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9ac438e604d59b674> / Bug 13211: (followup) remove 'masthead' reference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb152b35efbedbc9f> / Bug 13211: Added Google Indic Transliteration as a System Preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a.git;a=commitdif |
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| 15:20 | tcohen | @later tell magnuse please contact me to check some things for the NL bug |
| 15:20 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:57 | paul_p | hello #koha |
| 15:58 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12448: (RM followup) fix bug number in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee8d7110aaa824cfa> / Bug 12986: Upgrade the DataTables jQuery plugin to the latest version (1.10.2) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4445010115fac329> / Bug 9043: DBRev 3.17.00.052 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p= |
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| 16:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:47 | Joubu | See you #koha |
| 16:47 | for info, it's bank holiday in France tomorrow ;) | |
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| 17:11 | gaetan_B | bye! |
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| 17:30 | cait | magnuse++ |
| 17:31 | * cait | waves |
| 17:31 | druthb | cait! |
| 17:32 | cait | druthb! |
| 17:32 | druthb | :) |
| 17:46 | oleonard | Yay, 3-hour budget meeting! Is over. |
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| 17:47 | cait | oh wow |
| 17:47 | * cait | hands the cookie jar to oleonard |
| 17:49 | druthb | cookie! |
| 17:49 | * cait | instructs oleonard to share with druthb |
| 17:49 | bag | hola |
| 17:49 | oleonard | But cait this jar is empty (now) |
| 17:49 | * druthb | pouts. |
| 17:49 | * cait | gets another one |
| 17:49 | cait | hola bag |
| 17:50 | bag | heya cait |
| 17:50 | druthb | bag! oleonard ate all the cookies! |
| 17:52 | * cait | hands druthb her own cookie jar |
| 17:52 | * druthb | takes it, offers some around to others. |
| 17:52 | druthb | wahanui: botsnack cookie |
| 17:52 | wahanui | :) |
| 18:06 | nengard | git help please :) |
| 18:06 | how do I solve this: | |
| 18:06 | previous rebase directory /Users/nengard/manual/.git/rebase-apply still exists but mbox given. | |
| 18:08 | bag | git rebase --abort |
| 18:08 | or you can just git reset --hard HEAD | |
| 18:08 | hmm.. something in there with an --abort ;) | |
| 18:08 | nengard | yup - all better :) |
| 18:09 | bag | sweet |
| 18:10 | welcome back mario | |
| 18:10 | mario | thanks bag |
| 18:12 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:12 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (7:00 PM CET on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:12 | cait | it's coooold! |
| 18:16 | bag | @weather 93102 |
| 18:16 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 19.3°C (10:16 AM PST on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:16 | bag | cold here too cait |
| 18:16 | I had to wear a sweater today | |
| 18:16 | cait | scarf! |
| 18:25 | tcohen | later! |
| 18:26 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 18:26 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 PM CET on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
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| 18:56 | learn_koha | hi everyone, |
| 18:56 | wahanui | hi everyone, is there anyone here who might be able to shed some light on the Koha problem I'm having? |
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| 18:57 | learn_koha | who knows how i can mangae staff accounts (add new or edit) in koha site ? |
| 18:57 | cait | you add a patron and then use more > permissions to give them the rights to use modules, log into the staff acount |
| 18:57 | talljoy | Once you've added a new patron, you go to permissions |
| 18:57 | jinx cait | |
| 18:58 | bag | manual? |
| 18:58 | wahanui | manual is, like, at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 18:58 | cait | :) |
| 18:58 | talljoy++ nice article :) | |
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| 18:58 | talljoy | my blog? |
| 18:58 | already posted? yay! | |
| 18:58 | thanks cait. | |
| 18:59 | learn_koha | where is "permissions"? |
| 19:00 | talljoy | upper right side of the patron detail screen. |
| 19:00 | oleonard | learn_koha: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]npermissions.html |
| 19:00 | rangi | morning |
| 19:00 | talljoy | unless you do not have permissions to set other staff permissions learn_koha |
| 19:00 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 19:00 | talljoy | hola rangi |
| 19:01 | learn_koha | ah ha ~ thanks to oleonard and talljoy ! |
| 19:02 | talljoy | yw! |
| 19:02 | oleonard | "All staff members must be entered into Koha as patrons of the 'Staff' type'" ...is that accurate? |
| 19:02 | rangi | having the manual bookmarked will save you a lot of stress learn_koha :) |
| 19:02 | oleonard: no, it doesnt matter at all | |
| 19:03 | talljoy | it's good practice. but won't stop you from doing anything if you are not set as staff. |
| 19:03 | rangi | permissions are all that matter, for everything except circulation |
| 19:03 | one thing ive worked on, and is nearly finished is default permissions for a category | |
| 19:04 | like you can do with extended attributes currently | |
| 19:05 | oleonard | Oh that'll be great rangi. Long time coming. |
| 19:05 | rangi | which would make that potentially true ;) |
| 19:05 | talljoy | excellent |
| 19:05 | rangi | its an on my own time thing, as it's not annoying enough to pay to fix :) so it suffers from being last in the queue, but it will get there |
| 19:09 | talljoy++ | |
| 19:09 | that is a great post | |
| 19:12 | RowdyChildren | @karma |
| 19:12 | huginn | RowdyChildren: Highest karma: "cait" (162), "gmcharlt" (151), and "oleonard" (112). Lowest karma: "^" (-9), "-" (-9), and "ie" (-7). |
| 19:13 | rangi | we have 2 karma counters |
| 19:13 | karma for cait | |
| 19:13 | wahanui | cait has karma of 603 |
| 19:13 | rangi | wahanui hasnt been reset |
| 19:13 | wahanui | rangi: excuse me? |
| 19:13 | rangi | you heard me you egg |
| 19:14 | druthb | karma for druthb |
| 19:14 | wahanui | druthb has karma of 178 |
| 19:14 | jcamins | rangi: quick, better reset wahanui's karma counter lest someone take it too seriously! |
| 19:14 | cait | oh |
| 19:14 | druthb | lol |
| 19:14 | rangi | RowdyChildren: huginn gets reset each year (or just randomly also) |
| 19:14 | karma #koha | |
| 19:14 | wahanui | #koha has karma of 5 |
| 19:14 | rangi | heh |
| 19:18 | cait | is ther a good reason to use the cardnumber for linking on the holds queue?? |
| 19:20 | bag | cait does it display the cardnumber? |
| 19:20 | cait | it does - but using it for th elink to the patron account seems unusual |
| 19:20 | instead of the borrowernumber | |
| 19:21 | bag | yup it does seem unusual (I would say that displaying the cardnumber is important - who really cares how you link it? - except speed impact?) |
| 19:21 | I think borrowernumber seems more consistent | |
| 19:21 | cait | not sure either - but borrowernumber seems more standard |
| 19:22 | bag | yeah I agree with that cait :) |
| 19:22 | cait | hm i have a patch - people can test and tell :) |
| 19:22 | mtompset | mmm... perhaps because you can log in by cardnumber or username, not borrower number? |
| 19:23 | cardnumber is external visible by default. borrower number is not. | |
| 19:23 | Just some thoughts. | |
| 19:23 | But for linking data, I would expect borrower number over cardnumber. | |
| 19:24 | cait | it's a link in the staff interface... |
| 19:24 | nothing about the log in :) | |
| 19:26 | rangi | cait: it should be borrowernumber |
| 19:26 | cardnumber can change | |
| 19:26 | then the link will be broken | |
| 19:28 | cait | it would be broken if it changed between runs of the holds queue script i think |
| 19:28 | but i agree | |
| 19:28 | rangi | does anyone know if the archives in hawaii are still using koha? |
| 19:29 | http://archives1.dags.hawaii.g[…]koha/opac-main.pl | |
| 19:29 | heh looks like it | |
| 19:29 | cait | ok, patch is on bug 12359 - not sure about the feature itself, opinions welcome :) |
| 19:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12359 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, In Discussion , hidepatronname doesn't hide on the holds queue |
| 19:29 | rangi | good old version 2 |
| 19:30 | if anyone has a contact there, you can tell them, ill upgrade them for free, if they fly me over :-) | |
| 19:30 | cait | heh |
| 19:30 | if you do... ask if they need training too? :) | |
| 19:30 | bag | HA |
| 19:34 | cait | hm question |
| 19:34 | wahanui | question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 19:35 | cait | we have some very outdated docs about the tranlsation scripts |
| 19:35 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee8d7110aaa824cfa | |
| 19:35 | should we remove them? | |
| 19:35 | rangi | yes |
| 19:35 | outdated doc is worse than no docs | |
| 19:35 | cait | ok |
| 19:35 | i will make a quick patch thn | |
| 19:35 | rangi | yay |
| 19:39 | cait | bub 10136 |
| 19:40 | bug 10136 | |
| 19:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10136 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , misc/translator/translator_doc.html outdated |
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| 19:42 | cait | good morning kathryn |
| 19:42 | kathryn | hello cait :) |
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| 19:46 | learn_koha | hi, why can i not find out where i can change my own password in staff site ? |
| 19:49 | cait | learn_koha: easiest is to change it via the opac |
| 19:50 | learn_koha | but this is my staff account, staff account seems not to login opac ? |
| 19:51 | cait | it does |
| 19:51 | unless you are using the databaes user, which you should not :) | |
| 19:53 | learn_koha | o... i know why i can not login, because i do have permission... do you know how to bulk update permission? |
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| 20:01 | cait | wow |
| 20:01 | * cait | tries to fix something in one of the old reports |
| 20:10 | ashimema | evening #koha |
| 20:10 | rangi | hi ashimema |
| 20:10 | ashimema | hey rangi.. how goes ti |
| 20:11 | s/ti/it | |
| 20:11 | rangi | not too bad, and you? |
| 20:11 | ashimema | Not bad.. trying to get my head around tocken based authentication vs cookies.. |
| 20:11 | it's just making me want to eat cookie s ;) | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | ashimema: tokens are better. |
| 20:12 | ashimema | I'm thinking that.. |
| 20:13 | but I'm stuggling to get my head around implimenting them ;) | |
| 20:13 | jcamins | I tell you from hard-won and painfully endured experience, cookie-based authentication for REST APIs is like replacing all the sugar in a cookie with rat poison. |
| 20:13 | [left as an exercise for the user] | |
| 20:13 | ashimema | will get there in the end I'm sure.. just another piece to hit my head against |
| 20:13 | * ashimema | has been getting a sore head allot of late |
| 20:13 | ashimema | haha... lol. |
| 20:14 | indeed.. it's a REST api I'm attempting to add such authentication too | |
| 20:14 | (which reminds me.. I should poke at pianohacker to add tocken support to the Koha::Services patches he's working on ;) ) | |
| 20:16 | * cait | growls at cataloguing stats |
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| 21:26 | BobB | hi |
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| 21:32 | cait | hi BobB |
| 21:33 | BobB | hi cait |
| 21:34 | @wunder sydney nsw | |
| 21:34 | huginn | BobB: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 21:35 | BobB | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 21:35 | huginn | BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (8:00 AM AEDT on November 11, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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| 22:00 | eythian | hi |
| 22:00 | cait | morning |
| 22:03 | mtompset | Greetings, eythian. :) |
| 22:03 | Greetings, cait. :) | |
| 22:04 | cait | hi mtompset |
| 22:08 | eythian | g'day cait, mtompset |
| 22:32 | https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/events/#e148 <-- rangi, got your ticket for this? | |
| 22:32 | dcook | That moment when you write a comment on Bugzilla and you expect it to go to 5 people but it goes to at least 20. |
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| 22:33 | rangi | eythian: i have |
| 22:33 | oh, hmm no ihavent | |
| 22:33 | eythian | BBQ in a fortress! |
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | how could you say no. |
| 22:34 | rangi | i think ill be doing kids duty |
| 22:34 | eythian | dcook: coming to kiwicon I assume? |
| 22:34 | rangi | having skived off when the conf is on |
| 22:34 | dcook | eythian: I love the style though. I recall you linking to the source for it I think.. |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | you could foist them off on some one else ;) |
| 22:34 | <--- | |
| 22:34 | eythian | dcook: yeah, I saw it when it was released, it's quite well done |
| 22:34 | dcook | eythian: Alas, not this time |
| 22:35 | Probably no travel for this guy until after July | |
| 22:35 | rangi | eythian: im doing this one https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/training/#e119 |
| 22:35 | i also sponsored tickets for 2 librarians | |
| 22:35 | dcook | Also, who knew that leaving the country reset certain bureaucratic counters... |
| 22:35 | rangi | and jay at ndha matched me, with 2 more |
| 22:35 | eythian | cool |
| 22:35 | dcook | I love the names of these sessions |
| 22:36 | eythian | I'm eyeing up the SDR training thing |
| 22:36 | dcook | "Penetration Testing Java applications for Fun and Profit" |
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| 22:38 | mtompset | Nice abridged code of conduct. :) |
| 22:48 | cait | would someone be opposed to closing bug 8866? |
| 22:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8866 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Plack - remove unneeded dbh->disconnects OMNIBUS |
| 22:49 | cait | eythian: ? |
| 22:49 | eythian | I totally have no opinion, mtj needs to explain what he's talking about there. |
| 22:50 | cait | @later tell mtj can you take a look at bug 8866 please? |
| 22:50 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 22:57 | eythian | https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/schedule/ <-- dcook, here's the whole schedule |
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| 23:05 | tcohen | hi |
| 23:05 | wahanui | bonjour, tcohen |
| 23:06 | eythian | bonjour, tcohen |
| 23:06 | tcohen | hi eythian |
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| 23:07 | cait | wb tcohen |
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| 23:16 | tcohen | i guess all of us will hang if we meet a zombie zebra |
| 23:17 | dcook | Who, wha? |
| 23:17 | cool, eythian :) | |
| 23:17 | tcohen | bug 8908 |
| 23:17 | wahanui | bug 8908 is where I reported it, but I don't see a patch. |
| 23:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra |
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| 23:20 | tcohen_ | am i online? |
| 23:20 | eythian | tcohen_: nope |
| 23:20 | rangi | yes, but im going to lunch |
| 23:20 | :) | |
| 23:21 | tcohen_ | rangi: damn |
| 23:21 | logout tcohen | |
| 23:22 | eythian | yeah, tcohen. Logout! |
| 23:23 | tcohen_ | hey, don't be rude |
| 23:24 | eythian | you said it first |
| 23:24 | tcohen_ | dcook: i'll go for an XSLT registry |
| 23:24 | eythian: :-P | |
| 23:24 | thanks for the json-escape package | |
| 23:24 | already installed on jenkins nodes | |
| 23:24 | eythian | cool |
| 23:25 | tcohen | =D |
| 23:25 | \o/ | |
| 23:26 | katrina: doesn't 8908 block 12173? | |
| 23:26 | (i.e. the other way around) | |
| 23:27 | i mean, cait | |
| 23:27 | cait | sec |
| 23:28 | yep | |
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