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00:09 | dcook | bag: If Kyle updates it, I think there would be lots of people to test and sign off on it |
00:11 | wizzyrea | heh, ther'ed probably be a massive collision with people falling over each other to get the signoff. |
00:11 | ;) | |
00:12 | dcook | hehe |
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01:11 | dcook | :o |
01:11 | maryj! | |
01:11 | Hmm, maybe a bit too late in the evening for you to be around | |
01:11 | Cool seeing another SLAISer around here :) | |
01:24 | mtj | hi #koha |
01:25 | dcook | yo mtj |
01:25 | wizzyrea | whattup mtj |
01:25 | mtj | ...how do people feel about a patch to improve the OPAC footer behaviour/positioning? |
01:26 | dcook | Burn it with fire! |
01:26 | wizzyrea | if this is about the fact that sometimes it shows up above the main content, then I am for it. |
01:26 | dcook | Actually, I don't know |
01:26 | wizzyrea: When does that happen? | |
01:26 | wizzyrea | on bootstrap, on certain pages |
01:26 | mtj | this has been a bit of a touchy issue, previously |
01:26 | wizzyrea | it's in my logs sec |
01:26 | oh? | |
01:26 | dcook | I don't think we really use the footer much |
01:27 | wizzyrea | when a user is not logged in and they get the login page, the footer is actually above the main content in the template, case and point http://corr-design.koha.cataly[…]koha/opac-user.pl |
01:27 | actually that url won't work | |
01:27 | but the description is the same. | |
01:27 | mtj | basically, a patch to force the footer to the bottom of the screen, rather than having it float half-way up the screen |
01:27 | wizzyrea | hm. |
01:28 | mtj | heres an example of the 'bug' -> http://master.xen1.kohaaloha.com/ |
01:28 | wizzyrea | devil's advocate: can't you do that with custom styles pretty easily? |
01:28 | https://ihc.mykoha.co.nz/ < example | |
01:29 | mtj | the fix, would have the footer sitting at the bottom of the page |
01:30 | wizzyrea | I wouldn't be opposed to making every bootstrap koha work like that one I just linked. |
01:30 | mtj | looks nice wiz! |
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01:30 | wizzyrea | I can't take credit, it goes to our super whiz designers |
01:31 | dcook | Hmm |
01:31 | mtj | its not usually such a problem - as most live kohas have enuff OPAC content to push the footer down |
01:31 | ...but, a default OPAC shows the 'bug' pretty well | |
01:31 | dcook | Yeah, that's a tough one |
01:32 | I wouldn't necessarily call it a bug | |
01:32 | Lots of sites are like that | |
01:32 | Stylistically though, I would prefer it at the very bottom like you're both saying though | |
01:32 | I don't know if all librarians would agree with me though | |
01:33 | Catalyst sites are so pretty :) | |
01:33 | wizzyrea | to me, it seems "easy" enough to fix it with styles that I don't worry about it |
01:33 | dcook | Yeah, I can't say it's ever come up with us |
01:33 | But I don't know whether our users would care one way or another about it | |
01:35 | mtj | i'll probably just fix it myself too... |
01:35 | wizzyrea | dunno, it would probably annoy libraries that are using bootstrap who expect it to be the way it is. |
01:35 | :/ | |
01:35 | mtj | ...but i thought it might be nice to 'fix' it for everyone, while i was at it |
01:36 | wizzyrea | dunno, I can't say for sure |
01:36 | libraries are titchy about design. | |
01:36 | oh, mtj (and dcook) opinion time | |
01:36 | https://i.imgur.com/0YGdB6p.png so you're used to this | |
01:37 | I've had comments that it's a confusing layout | |
01:37 | dcook | ? |
01:37 | wizzyrea | so I came up with https://i.imgur.com/D6ekIpa.png |
01:37 | mtj | but hey, i'm sure there is someone out that would be super-pissed that their floating footer, just got moved to the bottom of the screen |
01:37 | wizzyrea | and I just want to know what people think |
01:37 | dcook | Hmm |
01:37 | Is that what they meant about the layout being confusing? | |
01:38 | Maybe another heading over the search fields | |
01:38 | Saying something like... | |
01:38 | "Search Fields" | |
01:38 | Well "Search fields" | |
01:38 | wizzyrea | well the two column |
01:38 | mtj | wizzyrea: looks way better |
01:38 | wizzyrea | the comment was |
01:38 | or the question really | |
01:38 | was "can I search title and author at the same time" | |
01:38 | of course we know you can | |
01:38 | dcook | Ahhh |
01:38 | wizzyrea | but the interface doesn't suggest that |
01:38 | dcook | Fair enough |
01:38 | Yeah, the two column design looks way better | |
01:38 | wizzyrea | as it is now |
01:39 | dcook | Sorry |
01:39 | I mean your design is better | |
01:39 | As in one column for targets and one column for fields | |
01:39 | mtj | the new design make way more sense |
01:39 | * dcook | hates adding new fields when the "search fields" take up two columns on their own |
01:39 | wizzyrea | (not reflected in that screen cap is the fact that I've rearranged the fields from perceived most used to least used) |
01:40 | dcook | Nice ;) |
01:40 | wizzyrea | so ISBN, ISSN, Title, Author, Raw, the rest |
01:40 | dcook | Personally, I dislike the "Raw (any)" label |
01:40 | I think "Keyword" would make more sense | |
01:40 | wizzyrea | yea, was thinking of changing that but worried that it was z39.50 terminology that made sense to everyone but me. |
01:40 | dcook | I don't know where "Raw" comes from |
01:40 | wizzyrea | maybe Keyword (Raw) |
01:40 | dcook | "Any" makes sense as it is the "any" index |
01:41 | wizzyrea | or something |
01:41 | wahanui | something is sketchy |
01:41 | dcook | Keyword (any) maybe |
01:41 | But I think "Keyword" is probably sufficient | |
01:41 | * dcook | has read through a lot of bib-1/z39.50 docs |
01:42 | dcook | Trying to recall what Standard ID is... |
01:42 | wizzyrea | the other thing I like about my proposed idea (this was an observation from last night by someone) is that you can fit more targets without scrolling. |
01:42 | dcook | (Unrelated: that moment when you're wondering why a file didn't come through the build process.. and you realize that someone added the file to the git after you ran the original build. D'oh!) |
01:42 | wizzyrea | doh |
01:42 | dcook | wizzyrea: Yes! |
01:42 | So much that | |
01:42 | wizzyrea | that's super annoying. |
01:43 | dcook | Wait. That's not what I thought. |
01:43 | But that too! | |
01:44 | wizzyrea | no, your thing is annoying, fitting more targets is good I think. |
01:44 | in case we were confusing each other | |
01:44 | dcook | No idea :) |
01:44 | In any case, I think that your thoughts are good ones | |
01:44 | The only thing I'd change is "Raw (any)" to "Keyword", but that's just me. | |
01:44 | I might do that myself one day | |
01:45 | wizzyrea | right cool, ok that's overwhelmingly, so far, in favour of the general layout change |
01:45 | dcook | Actually, I think I've already changed it on the Authorities Z39.50 search.. |
01:45 | wizzyrea | oh yeah, I'll make that part of this "general revamp" |
01:45 | dcook | Ah, I put "Keyword (any):" for the authorities z39.50 search |
01:46 | You could redo that layout as well while you're at it | |
01:46 | wizzyrea | may do actually - which page is it? |
01:46 | dcook | cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/z3950_auth_search.pl |
01:46 | wizzyrea | if it's similar, better to do it than not do it |
01:46 | dcook | I should've done a better job on the auth z3950 search... but it was a time crunch :/ |
01:46 | The whole z3950 system could use an overhaul, but... | |
01:46 | It works :) | |
01:47 | wizzyrea | oh yeah, I'll do that one |
01:47 | in fact I'll make them both consistent thanks for pointing that out | |
01:47 | it's a personal project so... | |
01:48 | dcook | Consistent? |
01:49 | Not all the fields for the authority search will be the same for the bibliographic search O_o | |
01:49 | Although maybe you just mean layout? | |
01:49 | wizzyrea | i mean design wise |
01:49 | dcook | In any case, yay wizzyrea! |
02:05 | mtj | indeed :) |
02:08 | peeps, a random interwebs meme question. what is this? -> http://i.imgur.com/EGZWGRa.gif | |
02:08 | dcook | No idea |
02:08 | Where's eythian when you need him :p | |
02:09 | mtj | yeah, i know |
02:09 | dcook | Ok, I've been on the computer non-stop for over 4 hours |
02:09 | bbiab | |
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02:10 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
02:11 | mtj | ...looks like its a walama |
02:11 | hiya mtompset | |
02:14 | mtompset | walama? |
02:14 | Greetings, mtj. | |
02:14 | I hate a code change triggering inexplicable errors. | |
02:15 | mtj | me too |
02:16 | mtompset | I'm getting memcache kabooms. |
02:16 | dcook | I hate inexplicable errors triggering code changes. |
02:16 | On that note, I'm actually going for a walk | |
02:17 | Good luck with memcache, mtompset! | |
02:17 | mtompset | And I don't even know why? I know where in the code, but this new caching system that was added .... I don't understand why GetMarcStructure() would trigger it. |
02:19 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "My current exploding prove -v t/db_dependent/Biblio.t" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/278 |
02:44 | mtompset | Hmmm... seems related to bug 12800... |
02:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12800 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Can't access MARC bibliographic frameworks and other pages |
02:44 | mtompset | I put $ENV{ MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE } = 'unit_tests'; into the t/db_dependent/Biblio.t and my preliminary test works. |
02:46 | Okay, now I get it. | |
02:59 | * mtompset | grumbles about permissions. :) |
03:51 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
03:51 | I got Bug 11592 all cleaned up again. Perhaps someone can sign it off. :) | |
03:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility |
04:18 | mtj | hey wizzyrea, dcook - i think this is basically what im suggesting as a fix to the OPAC footer |
04:18 | http://getbootstrap.com/examples/sticky-footer/ | |
04:19 | sticky footer, for the win | |
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06:56 | * magnuse | waves |
06:58 | * cait | waves back |
06:59 | magnuse | ooh, friday! |
06:59 | wahanui | friday is pizzaday! |
06:59 | cait | :) |
06:59 | $bbCait-12 | |
06:59 | ignore that. | |
06:59 | * magnuse | will |
06:59 | cait | friday is also the day i have to go to bed early because i have to catch a bus in the morning because of train strike... |
06:59 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
06:59 | magnuse | ouch |
07:00 | pizzaday! | |
07:00 | pizzaday is friday | |
07:31 | dcook | Friday is also the day that dcook bought presale tickets to see Mogwai at the Sydney Opera House |
07:31 | wahanui | okay, dcook. |
07:31 | * dcook | does a little dance |
07:31 | dcook | D'oh |
07:31 | wahanui forget friday | |
07:31 | wahanui | dcook: I forgot friday |
07:31 | dcook | good |
07:31 | friday? | |
07:32 | That's right | |
07:32 | wahanui | no it's not. |
07:32 | dcook | Shhh |
07:32 | Have a good weekend everyone :) | |
07:32 | * dcook | dashes |
07:34 | magnuse | have fun dcook |
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07:42 | reiveune | hello |
07:42 | wahanui | hi, reiveune |
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07:51 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
07:51 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
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07:57 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:57 | wahanui | bidet, alex_a |
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08:22 | gaetan_B | hello |
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08:33 | wizzybobizzy | hallo |
09:05 | ashimema | morning #koha |
09:55 | paxed | so, any suggestions where to start looking when searching just gives me "zebrasrv(1) 00e720b5 [request] Search biblios ERROR 109" |
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10:34 | mveron | Hi #koha |
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11:21 | paxed | INSTALL should have at the top something along the lines of "If you're installing on Debian, see INSTALL.debin, etc" |
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12:20 | tcohen | morning! |
12:20 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
12:20 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 28.8°C (9:20 AM ART on November 07, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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12:28 | tcohen | @seen marcelr |
12:28 | huginn | tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 1 hour, 31 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <marcelr> thx Joubu++ |
12:37 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
12:37 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (1:20 PM CET on November 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
12:37 | magnuse | tcohen: you win! ;-) |
12:42 | tcohen | hi magnuse |
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12:51 | cait | mornign tcohen :) |
12:51 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
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13:02 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
13:11 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
13:31 | oleonard | Wow AJAX circ checkin (using the checkboxes) is just spinning away forever in my test system |
13:31 | cait | hm try to force releoad |
13:32 | oleonard | Script timed out before returning headers: checkin |
13:32 | cait | it sometimes happened for me if it didn't like something (like i forgot to do a databaseupdate) |
13:32 | oleonard | Timeout waiting for output from CGI script |
13:32 | cait | oleonard: your database has all the updates? |
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13:42 | oleonard | New AJAC circ bug: Bug 13221 |
13:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13221 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Waiting holds information doesn't disappear from checkout page after hold is checked out |
13:43 | oleonard | ...AJAX that is. |
13:48 | cait | hm not sure it's a bug |
13:48 | the page is not reloaded | |
13:48 | you'd have to make the waiting hold message and all ajax too iguess | |
13:49 | oleonard | It's a bug, it's just not easy to fix. |
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13:54 | cait | oleonard: a problem of the new system... but i still prefer it over the waiting holds not showing up at all |
13:55 | oleonard: is the holds tab correct in that case? | |
13:55 | oleonard | It probably depends on whether the holds table has been loaded yet |
13:56 | cait: I'm not blaming rangi's fix for the waiting holds, I'm blaming the overall system. | |
13:57 | cait | oleonard: i understand you |
13:58 | oleonard: i am also regretting a bit that we didn't offer this as an option first... or on a test system for people to see | |
13:58 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
13:58 | cait | regretting? |
13:58 | hm. | |
14:00 | * oleonard | wonders why his test system is running so slowly. Even regular checkins are taking forever |
14:11 | oleonard | anyone remember off the top of their heads how the automatic removal of restrictions works? Does the checkin process check for an remove automatic restrictions? |
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14:21 | cait | oleonard: hm we aren't using it yet - it shoudl be a cronjob |
14:22 | maybe the database cleanup one? | |
14:22 | tcohen | ok, it is time |
14:23 | cait | oleonard: cleanup_database.pl |
14:23 | bug 12760 | |
14:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , add restrictions purge to cleanup_database.pl |
14:25 | tcohen | oleonard: i can push it right now for u :-D |
14:25 | oleonard | Well I know it was working in the past so I know it's not something which hasn't been pushed yet :P |
14:27 | I see it now, it's in Circulation.pm | |
14:27 | cait | oleonard: maybethere is something about it on the initial bug? I thought we just kept them but they are no longer taken into account after the date |
14:33 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8836: (RM followup) unit tests should use the new API <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]db02af596d7d22994> / Bug 8836: Update DBIx <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bb4026c62a53e2a75> / Bug 8836: DBRev 3.17.00.047 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]af6c361f4c4b792ca |
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14:42 | * mveron | waves |
14:42 | mveron | @wunder allschwil |
14:42 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 13.0°C (3:42 PM CET on November 07, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
14:45 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
14:45 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 4.0°C (9:45 AM EST on November 07, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
14:48 | oleonard | Something has changed recently which is really slowing down checkins in my VM |
14:49 | cait | :( |
14:51 | tcohen | oleonard: can u bisect it? |
14:51 | oleonard | Trying |
14:54 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12448: DBRev 3.17.00.048 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9aa2c745c6e24c78> / Bug 12448: Follow-up: Only ask confirmation when rental charge > 0 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7cbe740c12005c712> / Bug 12448: Ask for confirmation when checking out an item with rental fees <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ |
14:59 | oleonard | Bisect is time-consuming when a checkin takes almost a full minute... |
15:02 | * mveron | goes now to the Basel Book Festival: www.buchbasel.ch/ |
15:04 | cait | have fun mveron |
15:05 | oleonard | Ugh, git bisect why you gotta give me crap results? |
15:05 | * oleonard | doesn't think it was a change to t/db_dependent/Letters.t which slowed down checkins |
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15:26 | cait | oleonard: hm. |
15:27 | oleonard: maybe a configuration change? a new feature being activated or something? | |
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15:41 | oleonard | The second (and third) time around it tells me that a change to C4/Letters.pm is to blame :( |
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15:59 | cait | interesting -f or checkins? |
16:00 | oleonard | I keep checking, and it really seems like commit 7605f9 is slowing things down |
16:01 | cait | which bug is that? |
16:01 | oleonard | Checkins go from 2 1/2 seconds to 50+ seconds |
16:01 | cait | wow |
16:01 | oleonard | Bug 11244 |
16:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11244 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , notices ignoring the dateformat preference |
16:01 | cait | oh .( |
16:01 | but interesting that it would take so long to generate a single notice | |
16:01 | must be the check-in slip then | |
16:01 | and shouldn't the same appear on checkout? | |
16:02 | oleonard | Ah, I didn't think about notices being generated on check-in! |
16:02 | I thought I was going crazy. | |
16:03 | reiveune | bye |
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16:06 | oleonard | Checkout doesn't seem to be affected |
16:06 | cait | oleonard: weird |
16:10 | oleonard: can you report a bug? | |
16:10 | oleonard | I am doing so now |
16:10 | cait | have to run :( will be back tuesday worst case, maybe a bit earlier for a while |
16:15 | oleonard | If checkin notices are being generated when I check in items shouldn't I be able to find them in message_queue? |
16:22 | Joubu | oleonard: if it's come from 11244, please link it. I will receive the notif and have a look on monday! |
16:22 | have a good week-end #koha | |
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17:14 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
17:14 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
17:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #150: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]_U12_MariaDB/150/ |
17:40 | tcohen | Joubu: is it possible to reload the jenkins process? |
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18:04 | tcohen | bug 6681 |
18:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6681 major, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Needs Signoff , When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links and items also get imported |
18:24 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12334: Make it easy to hide parts of material type and format information in... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3f42629064f97b610> / Bug 12250: DBRev 3.17.00.049 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8e174152f95862b38> / Bug 12250: Update descriptions for languages, scripts and regions <http://git.koha-community.org | |
18:34 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12403: DBRev 3.17.00.050 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]be810c0f5cb2b240c> / Bug 12403 [Follow-up] Batch record deletion <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cc9f9db357af383df> / Bug 12403: Follow-up - fixing a few typos <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]919d14c03b5339362 | |
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19:15 | oleonard | Hi again cait |
19:15 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
19:15 | still not used to seeing you around so late | |
19:17 | oleonard | Feels especially late when most of the channel is already off for the weekend :) |
19:17 | cait | :) |
19:17 | i know that feeling | |
19:24 | jcamins | oleonard: you don't get off at 3 on Fridays? |
19:25 | oleonard | Yes |
19:25 | jcamins | Okay, that was a badly phrased question. |
19:25 | You were either agreeing that you don't get off at 3 or agreeing that you get off at 3. | |
19:26 | I have long been jealous of the fact that you get out of work early on Fridays. Should I still be jealous? | |
19:26 | oleonard | I leave at 3 every day now. I come to work earlier so that I can pick up the kids from school. |
19:30 | cait | ... so you are not at work? :) |
19:31 | oleonard | for 30 more minutes |
19:31 | cait | ah |
19:31 | have a nice weekend :) | |
19:32 | oleonard | Thanks, you too cait. |
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