IRC log for #koha, 2014-10-28

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00:00 dcook Mmm, I guess winter is coming
00:00 It's rather hot down here so I forget : p
00:01 Thinking about "num_rec" again... I swear when I was doing tests that I was getting lots of facets back..
00:01 But I guess that was just the numbers
00:01 Which they say should be accurate
00:09 tcohen dcook: sounds reasonable
00:09 i even think that between reno and cordoba
00:09 zebra got updated
00:09 and changed that behaviour
00:09 but cannot tell
00:12 * dcook shrugs
00:13 dcook I saw a listserv email from Adam in 2008 talking about facetnumrec, but... *shrug*
00:13 Do you know what line 945 (http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]e_8c_source.html) is about?
00:14 My only experience with C is actually reading Zebra source code :p
00:14 And I don't know Zebra well enough to know when that variable would be set
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00:17 dcook Maybe it's just me, but that loop seems weird
00:18 But I can't remember what a "spec" is in Zebra either
00:20 tcohen i think each spec is an elementset
00:20 like in zebra::facet::au:0:100,su-to:0:100
00:21 dcook Ah, I see. specified elementset
00:22 tcohen oh, that loop is really weird actually
00:22 wajasu looks like if there are specs, the num_recs is bumped to 10000 and later in the routine they allocate 10000 pos_array pointers, then increment the pos_array counter in line 969
00:23 if zebra_meta_records_create returns 0 or null, then YAZ_BIB1_SPECIFIED_RESULT_SET_DOES_NOT_EXIST   no results found
00:23 dcook But it looks like line 965 will override that 10000 or 10 with any number you give it in the config
00:24 Maybe
00:24 If I read that line right
00:24 tcohen was about to say the same dcook said
00:24 wajasu it looks hardcoded.
00:24 tcohen to me, it seems like Adam lied
00:24 wajasu they proabbly did not want to run away with memor allocation for large data sets.
00:24 tcohen and facetNumRecs is only used for the second pass
00:27 ah
00:27 i was getting it wrong
00:27 the hardcoded value is a limit for element sets to consider
00:27 wajasu ok
00:28 tcohen the actual facet calculation is done
00:28 on line 803
00:31 and it uses facetNumRecs afer all (it is passed num_recs after it is set to whatever the config file
00:31 wajasu thats the routine. yes.
00:32 dcook I'm still curious about that loop. It looks like the default is 10, but that if you have any sort-based specs, it'll get set to 10,000
00:33 What was that example you gave before?
00:33 zebra::facet::au:0:100?
00:33 Ah, there
00:33 wahanui i heard Ah, there was no staff maintenance page.
00:33 dcook zebra::facet::au:0:100,su-to:0:100
00:35 zebraExplain_lookup_attr_str should return..
00:35 Have to love obscure variable names :p
00:37 tcohen that's what works for retrieving all facets at once
00:37 quoting wajasu
00:37 maybe we could fill a bug for trying wajasu's idea if nil-to-be-skipped
00:39 :-d
00:40 quocuy hi, i have small question, how can i show Collections  on #search-facets when user search item? Now there are itemtypes and locations.
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00:56 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:56 wajasu Hello
01:09 just got my 3.16.4 db loaded.  set my facets to 1000.  seems to work fine for me.  haven't used it too much yet.
01:29 quocuy Wajasu, did u answer my question?
01:37 eythian @wunder nzwn
01:37 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (2:30 PM NZDT on October 28, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
01:41 eythian seen gmcharlt
01:41 wahanui gmcharlt was last seen on #koha 6 days, 4 hours, 57 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: wiki is happier now [Tue Oct 21 20:43:16 2014]
01:41 eythian gmcharlt: don't suppose you happen to be around at the moment
01:41 ?
01:44 wizzyrea sometimes invoking his name 3x gets his attention.
01:44 eythian is that wise?
01:44 wizzyrea kind of like beetlejuice.
01:44 eythian it doesn't sound wise.
01:44 wizzyrea but less frightening.
01:46 wajasu quocoy: its been too long and my memory is rusty on some zebra search behavior.  I can't recall if Collections are a supported category of facet count in the left side toolbar as of yet.
01:46 eythian iirc facets don't actually come from zebra
01:46 or sometimes do
01:47 or something weird
01:47 wahanui something weird is going on here
01:48 dcook eythian: It's the patch for getting facets from zebra
01:48 Oh
01:48 eythian oh right
01:48 dcook Nevermind
01:48 eythian neverminding
01:48 dcook I think quocuy is talking about something else
01:48 * dcook is also neverminding
01:48 dcook I think I was doing something..
01:48 * dcook is still recovering from holiday
01:48 wajasu me too
01:50 * eythian is getting new and exciting errors from reprepro whilst trying to publish some new packages.
01:50 quocuy No
01:50 i'm talking about facet
01:51 eythian oh!
01:51 I know what's going wrong
01:51 I hate this error
01:53 mtompset facet error? Where? what? how?
01:54 eythian: bug 11232, if I recall.
01:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Retrieve facets from Zebra
01:55 eythian mtompset: * eythian is getting new and exciting errors from reprepro whilst trying to publish some new packages.
01:56 mtompset Oh, silly cross talk. :)
01:59 tcohen quocuy: it is not that easy right now
01:59 you need to patch C4::Koha::getFacets to know about that facet you want
02:00 then add it to the relevant etc/zebradb/marc_defs/file/bib​lios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
02:00 and regenerate the XSLT
02:01 we are 30 minutes of human work from making getFacets retrieve the facets definition from an external file
02:01 quocuy oK, I got it. It's really not easy. I thought there are some option to choose which we want to display in search-facet, but there isn't
02:01 tcohen is not *that* difficult either
02:02 quocuy Yes, i will try it now.
02:02 tcohen there's a straightforward syntax for defining facets in biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
02:02 and the same inside C4::Koha::getFacets
02:03 quocuy what do u mean "you need to patch C4::Koha::getFacets"? Do i need to install it or it intalled?
02:03 tcohen maybe some template amendment too
02:03 you want to add a new facet, the list of facets is defined in two places
02:03 in /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Koha.pm, and in the /etc/zebradb/marc_defs/file/bib​lios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml file
02:05 quocuy ok
02:05 then how can i add Collection-CCODE?
02:07 i got i
02:07 sub getFacets {     my $facets;
02:08 so i need to add in this function somethings simillar:
02:08 {                 idx  => 'location',                 label => 'Location',                 tags        => [ qw/ 995e / ],             }             ];
02:09 tcohen quocuy: are you testing how to do it or implementing in production?
02:10 quocuy No, about faces, no
02:11 I have used Koha 2 years, and try to develope some thing in OPAC for 1 years, not really understand about koha-code
02:12 Best things i have done is add Koha-as-CMS, add slider to Opac, create new menu...
02:13 my demo site is http://tvtl.dreamlib.vn
02:14 i have played around with css, jquery,html. Not really dive deeply into koha-code
02:14 tcohen the answer would be that facets are still not *that* configurable without messing with Koha's code
02:16 quocuy {                 idx  => 'collection',                 label => 'Collection',                 tags        => [ ???/ ??? / ],             }             ];
02:19 tcohen right
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02:19 tcohen ??? would be the MARC fields/subfields
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02:20 tcohen corresponding to what you want to add to the "collection" facet
02:20 sorry, are you talking about master?
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02:33 seneca Howdy all - I'd like to upgrade my Debian Squeeze koha server to Wheezy since Squeeze is "obsolete" (Debian's own word)
02:34 eythian yes, this is a good thing to do.
02:34 seneca Do I need to change the koha.list file to mention wheezy instead of squeeze?
02:34 eythian no
02:34 it'll just work
02:34 (in fact, it'll stop working if you do change it.)
02:34 seneca Thanks :) Are the koha packages listed under wheezy as well?
02:35 Oh, I guess they're not
02:35 eythian no, but they work.
02:35 on my list of things to fix one of these days :)
02:35 seneca Cool - thanks for the ingo
02:35 er info
02:35 eythian no problem
02:35 seneca any plans on changing the package listing to "wheezy" in the near future?
02:36 mtompset wasn't there a suggestion to rename it to development, stable, oldstable?
02:36 eythian probably going to change the way it works totally.
02:36 yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing.
02:36 seneca according to the wiki, there's oldstable, squeeze, and squeeze-dev
02:37 eythian yeah, so basically getting rid of the squeezeness is the plan
02:37 seneca 3.14, 3.16, and 3.17
02:37 eythian yep
02:37 mtompset but I recall something about keeping the squeeze, so that it wouldn't auto upgrade?
02:37 eythian more so that it doesn't break
02:37 seneca On the server side, what's the process? Is it just changing a manifest, or a dir name?
02:37 mtompset well, that too.:)
02:37 eythian it's a bit fiddly, but not too bad.
02:38 at least, is my understanding
02:38 renaming some stuff, but also changing the packages that are in there as each package is tagged with the name of the pocket that it's in.
02:38 seneca Ah, I hope there's an auto way to do that :)
02:39 OK, I'm going to snapshot the vm tomorrow and do an upgrade. If I don't sign here in tomorrow everything went OK. ;)
02:39 Thanks for the tip
02:39 eythian there isn't but I've been wanting to change how I handle the packages anyway, so it'd be a chance to fix that
02:39 sweet as
02:40 seneca About how many packages is there to update?
02:41 eythian around 30
02:45 some probably aren't needed any more too, actually
02:59 seneca Not awful.
02:59 eythian No, not too bad.
02:59 seneca I got itchy, and am doing it now remotely (23:00 where I am)
02:59 eythian But I'm hoping to build a script to handle it, so that'll hopefully help too.
03:00 seneca Indeed.
03:02 Any known bugs or additional requirements for using koha in Wheezy?
03:02 Not sure where I'd look for such ingo
03:02 dang - info
03:02 eythian hmm
03:02 I don't think so
03:03 There may be issues with jessie, but they're _hopefully_ worked out already.
03:03 I need to do testing.
03:03 seneca Sticking to stable for now. :)
03:03 tcohen wheeze should go smooth
03:05 quocuy tcohen:  [ qw/ 995e / ] for location, so what woule be for collection? I'm confused
03:05 wahanui somebody said confused was "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
03:06 tcohen quocuy: 952$8 ?
03:07 need to rest
03:07 good luck quocuy
03:07 quocuy ok
03:07 tcohen night every1
03:07 quocuy thank you so much
03:08 i'm appreciated
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03:12 rangi aleisha: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13112
03:12 huginn 04Bug 13112: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Add name of template file in html comment for each '.tt' file.
03:14 seneca Hmm... everything went ok except for apache2
03:14 apparently wheezy doesn't create an httpd.conf file, which is referenced in apache2.conf
03:14 no big deal, just made an empty file and started apache2
03:15 eythian that is strange
03:15 I've never heard of that
03:15 seneca Hmm... have a couple of configuration warnings too
03:15 missing httpd.conf wasn't a big problem, didn't have any tweaks in there anyway
03:16 WarningThe <zebra_bib_index_mode> entry is missing in your configuration file. It should be set to dom or grs1. It will default to grs1 but this could change in the future.
03:16 and
03:16 WarningThe <zebra_auth_index_mode> entry is missing in your configuration file. It should be set to dom or grs1. It will default to dom but this could change in the future.
03:17 Not sure if those were there pre upgrade or not.
03:17 eythian where do you see that?
03:19 seneca system information tab in the "about koha" section
03:19 under "XML configuration file"
03:21 eythian ah OK
03:21 then it probably has been there for a while
03:21 seneca OK - anything to worry about?
03:23 guessing not if they've been there for a while
03:26 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
03:36 seneca Alright - bed time. Thanks for your help again
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03:44 rangi aleisha: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13119 should be testable i think
03:44 huginn 04Bug 13119: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use XSLT to display tagged titles in the OPAC
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03:46 aleisha rangi that bug sent me this error: fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstr​ap/en/modules/opac-tags.tt).
03:47 rangi ahh in that case you can set it to patch does not apply and not that in there
03:47 note even
03:47 aleisha okey doke
03:51 dcook We sure have some odd indexes
03:51 "Author-title" is usually not actually an author and title...
03:51 * dcook shrugs
03:51 is reading about MARC and is waffling on his caring about MARC
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06:38 dcook Random thought... has anyone seen the film "Frank"?
06:52 cait good morning and no :)
06:54 dcook morning :)
06:54 That's all right. There's a line where Frank says something like "this is my most likeable song ever".
06:55 I was going to say "this is my most likeable presentation ever".
06:55 I'm nowhere near the word count I want though. *sighs*
06:55 cait can you write mine once you are done?
06:56 dcook :P
06:56 I'm not sure I'll even have time to finish this one
06:56 I'm thinking about showing slides of my holiday instead of a power point
06:56 I figure it might be more interesting as well :D
06:56 Either that or photos of my cats
07:18 mtj random Q, what do people think of adding optional mod_pagespeed to the koha packages?
07:20 seems like it would be a general win
07:21 ...and would fix a bunch of those 'why is my koha broken after upgrade?!' problems
07:23 what say you, good people of #koha
07:25 dcook Don't know anything about mod_pagespeed :)
07:31 mtj https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/
07:31 https://developers.google.com/[…]/pagespeed/module
07:35 ...if you are curious, dcook
07:36 dcook I clicked on the links then got distracted :)
07:39 mtj its basically a speed/network tweak, but it has a helpful side-effect where it tricks browsers into fetching the latest css/js files, etc
07:40 dcook Yeah, I'm not sure I entirely understand how it works, although I'm reading through it.
07:40 That would be a handy side-effect though.
07:40 Well, possibly.
07:41 mtj ...which seems to fix the common 'my koha is broken after upgrade' problem
07:41 dcook We've run into a few problems with css/js caching :/
07:41 Ahh, "broken"
07:41 Not broken
07:41 I gotcha
07:41 I thought you meant software errors rather than css/js errors
07:41 ;)
07:41 * dcook is still recovering from holiday
07:41 dcook and lack of sleep
07:42 Could be interesting
07:42 mtj mod_pagespeed would fix your caching problems
07:43 dcook Maybe
07:43 mtj very probably :)
07:44 anyhoo... something for the logs
07:44 dcook Hmm
07:44 https://developers.google.com/[…]d/service/pricing
07:45 Although the service and the module seem to be totally different?
07:46 mtj: The 'Extend Cache' filter rewrites the URL references in the HTML page to include a hash of the resource conten
07:46 You're right. That would help ;)
07:46 cait feature freeze this friday... hope everyone knows :)
07:46 * cait runs out to work
07:46 dcook Not sure what I think of muddling with the pages being served though..
07:47 ty cait :)
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07:47 * dcook should go home soon too...
07:47 mtj afaik, pagespeed service and module are seperate
07:49 google will offer a PS proxy as a service for a price... or just use you own
07:50 hi/bye cait
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07:51 reiveune hello
07:51 wahanui hello, reiveune
07:52 mtj bonjour reiveune
07:53 hokay, i'm off for a bit too...
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07:59 alex_a bonjour
07:59 wahanui que tal, alex_a
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08:14 gaetan_B hello
08:41 kivilahtio hiya
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11:56 francharb good morning
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11:57 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:01 cait hi oleonard :)
12:01 i think i left you one or two laters.... hope it's ok
12:02 oleonard Got one about Bug 12403, and saw your comment to me on Bug 12958
12:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12403 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Batch record deletion
12:02 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12958 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Set a fund owner to its children
12:02 cait :)
12:02 desperately trying to work my way through the queue this week
12:02 oleonard cait++
12:02 cait i have another i'd like your opinion on
12:02 in house checkouts
12:03 seems to work fine as far as i tested atm, but i have a few display issues
12:03 oleonard Everyone give cait karma, she's been QA'ing like crazy!
12:03 cait like i think that if the feature is turned off, the reading history should not show the tab
12:03 i tried a patch, but not sure it's the right way to do it - the patch changes the reading history to have tabs - all, (normal) checkouts, in-house checkouts
12:04 khall cait: I can fix that with a followup
12:08 * oleonard grumbles
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12:15 tcohen morning!
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12:24 cait oleonard: why grumbling?
12:25 oleonard Bugs which say they are not dependent on other bugs when really they are
12:26 cait oleonard++
12:26 the acq patches are quite a maze
12:28 tcohen hi cait
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12:35 cait hi tcohen :)
12:37 tcohen thanks fr the followup
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12:45 oleonard I think "Set this owner to all child funds" makes sense
12:45 or "Update all child funds with this owner"
12:47 I guess I like the latter better.
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12:52 Shane-S Hi, where do I configure email settings, I found the admin email...but nothing sent and we use gmail for schools so I am guessing I need to enter SMTP or IMAP/POP settings
12:53 Trying to just send HOLD emails, which I also found that setting disabled and I enabled that
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13:05 oleonard Bug 12958 now has an alternate follow-up for the label changes
13:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12958 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Set a fund owner to its children
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13:06 Shane-S is there any place I can test Koha's email abilities to be working or would I need SSH access?
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13:11 cait oleonard++ thx a lot! (bug 12958)
13:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12958 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Set a fund owner to its children
13:27 New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13149: Fix sequence of fields in sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]49d6f6ea547a6300c> / Bug 13149: for B 11926 (HEA - Render community koha statistic usages) introduces... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e59fd9d7011d40eee> / Bug 5342: Update DBIx <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b/?p=koha.git;a=c
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13:51 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13129 - HTML and JS escapes missing in unimarc_field_4XX.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4fdc8829110599575> / Bug 11593: Remove subtag_registry.txt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ddb765e04648f2216> / Bug 11593 - subtag_registry.sql files contain the same information for each language <http://git.koha-commu
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14:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12830: use find instead of search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]098413aee7fb1f42c> / Bug 12830: Move the order-related code into Koha::Acquisition::Order <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fbd3152b8bfc69d11> / Bug 12281: Display for records with RTL script in 880 in Boostrap <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe
14:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #200: NOW UNSTABLE in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/200/
14:18 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 11068: Update MARC21 es-ES default frameworks fields and translation
14:18 * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 9530: Follow-up - Fix t/db_dependent/Branch.t
14:18 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12571 - Add ability to customize SIP2 screen messages
14:18 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11007: Drop column aqorders.cancelledby
14:18 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11007: DBRev 3.17.00.034
14:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11068 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Update MARC21 es-ES default frameworks fields and translation
14:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11007: Update DBIx
14:18 * simith: Bug 8837: Dewey cn_sort inaccurate
14:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9530 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Allow separate 'Reply To' and 'From' email address for notices
14:18 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8837 [QA Followup] - Add unit tests
14:18 * Owen Leonard: Bug 13083 - Hard-coded " by " in opac-tags.pl
14:18 * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 11990 - Holds ratio report (circ/reserveratios.pl) sorts numeric values as text
14:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12571 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add ability to customize SIP2 screen messages
14:18 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11007 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Useless column cancelledby in aqorders table
14:18 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5342: Serial claiming improvements: add a counter
14:18 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5342: (qa-followup) FIX some issues
14:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8837 normal, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Dewey cn_sort inaccurate
14:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 5342: DBRev 3.17.00.035
14:18 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 5342: Update DBIx
14:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13083 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hard-coded " by " in opac-tags.pl
14:18 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , Holds ratio report (circ/reserveratios.pl) sorts numeric values as text
14:18 jenkins_koha * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 13149: for B 11926 (HEA - Render community koha statistic usages) introduces an column count error in sysprefs.sql
14:18 * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 13149: Fix sequence of fields in sysprefs.sql
14:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5342 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Serial claiming improvements
14:18 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13149 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , B 11926 (HEA - Render community koha statistic usages) introduces an column count error in sysprefs.ql
14:22 tcohen damn
14:22 :-D
14:24 cait hm?
14:24 ew
14:24 Search
14:25 hm facets?
14:25 wahanui facets are drawn from the records in the search results and are being worked on in bug 11232:  http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232
14:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Retrieve facets from Zebra
14:25 04Bug 11232: new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Retrieve facets from Zebra
14:26 oleonard cait: I have a follow-up for Bug 12403 if you don't mind
14:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12403 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Batch record deletion
14:27 mtompset Greetings, tcohen cait oleonard. :)
14:29 cait oleonard: not at all
14:30 I was hoping some of the new features will see a bit of your magic :)
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14:37 mtompset Oh great, cait. Now I'm thinking of a 1990's McDonald's commercial. :P
14:38 cait no links please, it can't be good
14:48 tcohen mathieu?
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15:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #201: NOW UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/201/
15:00 * Colin Campbell: Bug 12573: Use correct comparison for comparing strings
15:00 * Marc Veron: Bug 13112 - Add name of template file in html comment for each '.tt' file.
15:00 * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 13095: An email will be sent shortly
15:00 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 11593 - subtag_registry.sql files contain the same information for each language
15:00 * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 11593: Remove subtag_registry.txt
15:00 * Fridolin Somers: Bug 13129 - HTML and JS escapes missing in unimarc_field_4XX.tt
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12573 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , blinddetail-biblio-search uses wrong comparidon operator
15:00 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 12068: Follow up - make Text::Bidi mandatory
15:00 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 12281: Display for records with RTL script in 880 in Boostrap
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13112 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Add name of template file in html comment for each '.tt' file.
15:00 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12830: Move the order-related code into Koha::Acquisition::Order
15:00 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12830: use find instead of search
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13095 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , An email will be sent shortly
15:00 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11593 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , subtag_registry.sql files contain the same information for each language
15:00 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13129 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , HTML and JS escapes missing in unimarc_field_4XX.tt
15:00 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12068 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , label-create-pdf.pl Add support for RTL languages
15:00 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12281 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , RTL display for records using 880 broken in Bootstrap
15:00 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12830 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move the order-related code into its own module
15:03 mtompset Any thoughts on the system preference email I sent? :)
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15:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13088: (RM followup) add missing pref mock <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ea5d2cc12e1364da7> / Revert "Bug 9828: More specific indexing of UNIMARC 6XX fields" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]09a11d7210b7968b9> / Revert "ug 9828 : Add and fix comments in UNIMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml" <http://git.koha-comm
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15:35 oleonard mtompset: Are you saying you're worried that some existing system preferences are not in updatedatabase.pl or that you're worried that pending patches do not add the new prefs via updatedatabase.pl?
15:41 cait i can say that in qa I always look for pref, sql and updatedatabase
15:42 could someone sign off owen's follow up on batch delete records please? :)
15:42 oleonard Yeah I think our QA process is solid in this respect.
15:42 cait bug 12403
15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12403 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Batch record deletion
15:43 cait but i didn't see the email yet - will check later
15:55 mtompset oleonard: 9580 is a new patch which does not add the system preference to updatedatabase.pl
15:55 As for the former case, I am uncertain.
15:55 oleonard mtompset: That would be a reason to fail the patch
15:56 cait bug 9580
15:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9580 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , Cover image from Coce, a remote image URL cache
15:56 cait correct
15:56 i would fail that
15:58 oleonard Does that answer your question mtompset?
16:00 reiveune bye
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16:00 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
16:00 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #202: FIXED in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/202/
16:00 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "Bug 9828 : Followup for Queryparser and deletion of useless 6XX$9"
16:00 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "ug 9828 : Add and fix comments in UNIMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml"
16:00 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "Bug 9828: More specific indexing of UNIMARC 6XX fields"
16:00 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13088: (RM followup) add missing pref mock
16:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9828 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Failed QA , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 6XX
16:00 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13088 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Allow the user to specify a max amount of facets to show.
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16:01 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
16:01 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #190: FIXED in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Master_U14/190/
16:01 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "Bug 9828 : Followup for Queryparser and deletion of useless 6XX$9"
16:01 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "ug 9828 : Add and fix comments in UNIMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml"
16:01 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "Bug 9828: More specific indexing of UNIMARC 6XX fields"
16:01 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13088: (RM followup) add missing pref mock
16:01 bgkriegel hi
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16:20 vfernandes hi :)
16:22 i've installed koha 3.16 in Ubuntu Server 14.04LTS and i'm getting Apache2 403 error when trying to access the service
16:26 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
16:26 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #209: FIXED in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Master_U12/209/
16:26 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "Bug 9828 : Followup for Queryparser and deletion of useless 6XX$9"
16:26 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "ug 9828 : Add and fix comments in UNIMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml"
16:26 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "Bug 9828: More specific indexing of UNIMARC 6XX fields"
16:26 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13088: (RM followup) add missing pref mock
16:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9828 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Failed QA , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 6XX
16:26 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13088 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Allow the user to specify a max amount of facets to show.
16:26 oleonard Installed using what method vfernandes? packages?
16:27 vfernandes i've download the tar.gz and done a manual installation
16:28 oleonard If you are installing on Ubuntu a package installation is recommended.
16:28 vfernandes the Koha home folder is /KEEPS/koha/.... and they are "owned" by an user called "koha"
16:29 http://193.136.67.165/
16:30 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
16:30 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #133: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]_U12_MariaDB/133/
16:30 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "Bug 9828 : Followup for Queryparser and deletion of useless 6XX$9"
16:30 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "ug 9828 : Add and fix comments in UNIMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml"
16:30 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Revert "Bug 9828: More specific indexing of UNIMARC 6XX fields"
16:30 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13088: (RM followup) add missing pref mock
16:39 vfernandes oleonard: installation from packages changes apache2.conf?
16:40 oleonard vfernandes: Installation using packages is much more user-friendly with regard to Apache and Zebra setup, and provides lots of nice Koha management command-line options, plus easy upgrades.
16:42 vfernandes i know but that wasn't really my question
16:47 http://193.136.67.165/ -> now it shows the perl file instead of run it :D
16:47 cait oleonard: did you get a chance to look at the in-house checkouts?
16:48 tcohen bye #koha
16:48 cait ah kyle wanted to i think
16:48 i will see when i get bac home :) bye all!
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17:04 gaetan_B bye
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17:20 oleonard cait: I'm testing on-site checkouts and nothing is getting checked out
17:20 cait ohoh
17:20 worked for me when i tried - what's happening?
17:20 did you run the database update?
17:20 oleonard I did update the db
17:20 cait feature on or off?
17:21 oleonard Oh wait, error in the log...
17:21 cait trying to find my branch
17:23 oleonard The issues table has an 'inhouse_use' column instead of 'onsite_checkout'
17:24 cait huh
17:24 mine is onsite_checkout
17:24 let's check kohastructure vs. updatedatabase?
17:24 ... and there it is
17:24 mine was an updated databaes
17:25 could you try fixing the columns?
17:25 oleonard I think it has to do with how the patches got applied, since updatedatabase.pl is changed twice.
17:25 cait hm wait
17:26 hm did you apply both patches before running the update?
17:26 or more all 3?
17:26 oleonard I thought so.
17:27 cait with the second patch it looks like it shoudl work alright
17:27 oleonard https://i.imgur.com/1NF0QEe.png
17:31 cait lol
17:31 i had a similar thought :)
17:31 another reason i wanted you to take a look
17:32 i know a few ils which let you choose kind of a checkout mode ... so this seems kind of the right place, but it looks a bit chaotic
17:33 oleonard Yeah it's getting really messy. I don't like it.
17:34 cait maybe hm
17:34 a tab?
17:34 wahanui a tab is probably under advanced otpions
17:34 cait to switch to .. in house?
17:34 and later to other wild things... like permanent loan? :)
17:36 * cait will better be quiet
17:38 oleonard The "Remember for session" checkbox doesn't really make sense if "on-site checkouts" is checked does it?
17:50 cait hm
17:50 i stopped my testing with a first checkout test
17:51 does it always block the field to an end of day date?
17:51 i noticed that and wanted to take a closer look
17:52 mtompset Sorry for the slow reply, but I think so.
17:53 Oops... oleonard left. :)
17:53 cait oups
17:53 seems making dinner and chatting on #koha don't work at the same time
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17:58 larryb @later tell eythian Hey, would you please ping me when you get in? Thanks.
17:58 huginn larryb: The operation succeeded.
18:05 mtompset oleonard++ # Needs more checkboxes. :)
18:05 Have a great day, #koha cait larryb
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18:35 bgkriegel @wunder cordoba, argentina
18:35 huginn bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 40.2°C (3:35 PM ART on October 28, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1001 hPa (Falling).
18:39 bgkriegel that's not real, only 35 C
18:43 cait ugh
18:43 bgkriegel: do you have time for a sign off maybe?
18:43 bug 12403
18:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12403 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Batch record deletion
18:43 bgkriegel yes :)
18:43 I'm on it right now
18:44 cait awesome - thank you :)
18:45 bgkriegel no problem, but... have the same problem of a few days ago, empty fieldmapping table, so can't check subtitles display
18:48 cait bgkriegel: you can try adding one, an example is
18:48 subtitle - 245 - b
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18:49 cait you add add them under administration koha-to-keyword mapping
18:49 wnickc cait++
18:49 cait hi wnickc
18:50 wnickc hi cait, you are busy!
18:50 my thanks to you and all the qa team
18:50 and all of #koha at that
18:50 cait trying, but running out of time a bit
18:50 bgkriegel Ok, will do
18:51 perfect!
18:51 wahanui perfect is the enemy of good
18:51 cait :)
18:51 wnickc there's always another release
18:51 cait true :)
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18:54 cait hi dcook
18:56 6 months seems long... but it really isn't
19:00 wnickc feels longer the more you want a feature, but books still get checked out and very few cry about it :)
19:04 cait :)
19:04 bgkriegel cait: done!
19:04 cait thx a lot :)
19:07 bgkriegel: could you take a look at 12334 maybe?
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19:08 bgkriegel Ok :)
19:09 mveron Hi #koha
19:09 @wunder BAsel
19:09 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Attenschwiller, Sundgau, Attenschwiller, Switzerland is 9.0°C (8:05 PM CET on October 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
19:09 cait hi mveron :)
19:09 mveron hi cait :-)
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19:33 * mveron is proud to have a FairPhone, made from sustainable and fair resources...  www.fairphone.com
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20:01 mveron Good night (or day) #koha
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20:09 bag logs?
20:09 wahanui it has been said that logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
20:10 bag bug 8133
20:10 wahanui rumour has it bug 8133 is what started libsysguy's quest
20:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8133 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed
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20:32 tcohen hi bag
20:35 bag heya tcohen
20:40 tcohen trying to push some stuff
20:43 bag excellent
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20:46 cait hi bag
20:46 hi tcohen :)
20:46 bag hi cait
20:46 tcohen hi cait
20:46 bag hola pianohacker
20:47 pianohacker hi bag
20:47 cait hi pianohacker
20:54 pianohacker bag, cait: done
20:54 hi cait :)
20:55 bag cool thanks pianohacker
21:26 magnuse bag: HI
21:26 bag heya magnuse
21:26 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
21:27 * magnuse falls asleep
21:29 cait ... no magnuse is sleeping in the midst of #koha?
21:29 hope he doesn't snore :)
21:30 pianohacker cait: trying to fix some qa stuff for 8133; I notice the 'datatables.inc' doesn't include datatables.css. Should I leave my <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="[% themelang %]/css/datatables.css" />
21:30 ?
21:32 cait i am not sure sorry
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21:36 eythian hi
21:36 wahanui salut, eythian
21:36 eythian larryb: yo
21:36 larryb heya eythian
21:36 wahanui well, eythian is an expert bot trainer
21:37 larryb we had a question about this koha-plack project. does that work okay with 3.16?
21:38 eythian mostly
21:38 bag ie eythian rolling a package of the koha-plackify from git.catalyst
21:38 eythian there are issues due to changes in naming of the apache conf files
21:39 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998  <-- this still needs to be in before its safe too
21:39 huginn 04Bug 11998: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues
21:39 bag yeah eythian we are talking about just the OPAC for now
21:39 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org[…].cgi?id=11998#c19
21:39 huginn 04Bug 11998: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues
21:39 bag ehh sorry rangi
21:39 rangi thats still valid for the opac
21:40 bag cool righto
21:40 larryb bag I think he's referring to the fact that the recent upgrade changes the name of the apache config file for koha
21:40 eythian yep
21:40 larryb e.g. from "inst" to "inst.conf"
21:40 eythian, what's the installation procedure for using this? do a git clone then run a script?
21:41 rangi bag: it doesnt bite too hard in the opac, but you can get to a place where different threads have different pref values, leading to slightly odd behaviour
21:42 eythian larryb: koha-plackify takes an installed koha packages setup and modifies the config to use plack
21:42 so basically get something working normally, and then run koha-plackify on it.
21:43 bag oh sweet I was working on bug 11998 a few days ago and still have my branch up and running
21:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues
21:43 eythian I have no idea what those QA warnings on bug 11998 mean
21:43 bag I'll rebase and should be able to sign-off on that
21:46 larryb eythian, looks like I should be able to modify koha-plackify pretty easily for the filename change. Any other known issues using this?
21:47 bag ok well eythian my notes are in there and maybe whomever QAs it will see something or not :)
21:47 eythian There's an issue with zebra when running under plack I think, rangi knows more about that.
21:47 OK cool :)
21:47 rangi you also need the fix for the zebra
21:47 its pushed to master, not in 3.16 yet
21:47 bag jinx
21:47 rangi larryb: 12005
21:48 you'll want that patch too
21:49 bag larryb: iirc that should apply to 3.16 pretty easily
21:49 larryb thanks rangi.
21:49 cait ohoh
21:50 tcohen bye!
21:50 larryb yeah bag. I can test out the plackify script and zebra patch on a test VM pretty easily.
21:50 I like that there's a koha-unplackify script too. :D
21:50 just in case
21:51 eythian yeah :) it just puts the backups of files in place
21:51 larryb always good to have an "un-do" function
21:52 cait ok... does someone have a master installation?
21:52 larryb thanks eythian, rangi
21:52 eythian np
21:53 bag I can get one pretty quickly cait - or do you mean a production on master (that's a no)
21:53 cait I had a perl error - but i think it was me :)
21:53 all good now
21:54 bag ok cool
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22:18 pianohacker back
22:24 cait hm 16 enh
22:31 eythian http://www.1-day.co.nz/products/AAJBDN404 <-- now things are getting useful
22:32 dcook eythian: Everything should come with a bottle opener
22:32 When I was on Andros, I searched the main village up and down for one...
22:32 Of course, they didn't speak English and my Greek isn't very good
22:32 Eventually found one in a hole in the wall shop by saying "boukali" and miming opening a bottle.
22:33 cait 10...
22:33 eythian you're not a very good beer drinker, or any implement would have done the job :)
22:35 cait pianohacker: still around?
22:38 pianohacker cait: yup
22:38 cait bug 11211 still won't apply
22:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Patch doesn't apply , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
22:38 pianohacker wtf
22:39 I rebased it to latest master...
22:39 cait no changes?
22:39 wahanui no changes are committed to disk, unless you do a commit;
22:39 dcook eythian: I managed to use the flat edge of a knife to open two of them but managed to knick myself on the third bottle :p
22:39 pianohacker cait: that's an error on your end, I think: error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by
22:39 cait argh
22:39 maybe too late
22:39 close to midnight now
22:39 pianohacker yeah, understandable
22:40 cait wait a sec
22:40 the problem was taht it did fail
22:40 and when trying again a git reset --hard was not enough
22:41 ok, all good
22:41 and my clue to stop qa for tonight
22:41 pianohacker cait: all applied?
22:41 dcook My browser now autocompletes "time konstanz" whenever I type "time", cait :p
22:41 eythian https://twitter.com/Spacefligh[…]27224839107776513
22:42 pianohacker cait: woooo
22:42 cait heh :)
22:42 pianohacker cait++
22:42 eythian it's easy, it's 12 hours behind the present
22:42 dcook :p
22:42 * cait feels uncomfortable living in eythian's past
22:43 dcook lol
22:44 pianohacker I assume they live a day in the future but their clocks are 6 hours behind
22:45 I've felt uncomfortable suggesting ntp to fix the problem but someone's gonna have to speak up sooner or later
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22:59 tcohen rangi: we don't have a jingle, but will have a 12' video ad :-D
23:01 rangi oooh
23:01 we should made NateC sing the jingle
23:01 tcohen omg yes!
23:01 rangi :)
23:01 tcohen yes!!!
23:01 cait the jingle?
23:01 rangi tcohen: how many people did they interview in the end?
23:01 tcohen he could sing Search.pm with a sticky melody
23:01 cait ah like mahara?
23:01 rangi heh
23:02 cait lol
23:02 or the release notes including bug numbers
23:02 tcohen or mybe something nicer, like Auth_with_shibboleth.pm
23:02 heh
23:02 rangi: 12 people I think
23:02 rangi ahh cool
23:02 tcohen they interviewed us last week, and also a librarian that was passing by
23:02 cait why do i feel like you 2 have secrets? :)
23:03 rangi i think it will be a cool thing to have
23:03 even if i will be embarassed at seeing myself on camera
23:03 tcohen heh
23:03 we haven't seen *anything* yet
23:03 the girls wouldn't let us
23:04 cait rangi: me too :(
23:04 but yep, it's super cool anyway :)
23:05 tcohen NateC hides
23:06 cait don't look at me... all I sing is soft kitty, and only when someon is sick :)
23:06 tcohen it needs to be a happy song
23:24 normarc?
23:24 wahanui somebody said normarc was at http://www.nb.no/fag/kompetans[…]ering/dnk/normarc or mostly a subset of marc21
23:25 * tcohen needs to figure a regression test for normarc :/
23:28 * cait needs to sleep
23:28 cait cya all tomorrow
23:45 tcohen oh dear
23:46 gmcharlt: what happens if id=rubbish when indexing a record in DOM?
23:46 duplicated records?
23:47 gmcharlt tcohen: hmm... yes, very likely
23:47 tcohen the NORMARC one is broken, as they don't have the <id> section on their XML
23:47 will try to figure how to write a regression test for that...
23:47 do we have tests for the default DOM config?
23:48 gmcharlt just implicitly via t/db_dependent/Search.t
23:48 tcohen ok
23:48 i'm also seeing this
23:49 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "xst output for DOM indexing" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/251
23:49 tcohen they seem like empty or 'space only' any entries
23:50 I tried it before the facets got in and it looks the same
23:51 If I run the indexing twice without an init (Search.t) I should notice the duplicates

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