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| 00:35 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
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| 01:35 | eythian | So I need to design an API for Koha to allow borrower management. |
| 01:35 | I'm thinking of extending ILS-DI, unless there are better ideas. | |
| 01:37 | Hmm, I might use the /svc API as it already understand authentication. | |
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| 04:44 | rangi | i think extending the svc/ bit is probably be the best |
| 04:50 | eythian | yeah, that's what I settled on, ils-di being more for opac operations |
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| 06:42 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:57 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:57 | wahanui | salut, alex_a |
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| 07:00 | * Oak | waves |
| 07:00 | Oak | Ahoy cait |
| 07:00 | magnuse | |
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| 07:14 | cait | ahoy magnuse :) |
| 07:14 | hi Oak | |
| 07:26 | Oak | how are ya cait :) |
| 07:26 | I saw the uploaded pictures and looked like you guy had a great time at KohaCon. | |
| 07:28 | guys, is this a bug? http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]tober/041131.html | |
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| 07:35 | cait | Oak: sorry, not at my desk much right now :) |
| 07:35 | it was awesome in Argentina :) | |
| 07:35 | Oak | coool :) |
| 07:36 | np cait, later. | |
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| 07:37 | cait | Oak: not a bug that you can't set waiting manuall |
| 07:37 | y | |
| 07:37 | you can check in the book again and then it should print a slip again | |
| 07:37 | with the new patron and go back into waiting | |
| 07:39 | Oak | cait: what if I pressed ignore on that check-in screen? |
| 07:39 | now, how will an email be generated to the next in queue patron that the book is waiting for pickup? | |
| 07:40 | oh i get it. | |
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| 07:40 | Oak | you mean to check-in an already checked-in book.... |
| 07:40 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:40 | wahanui | hola, gaetan_B |
| 07:41 | Oak | cait: hmm. got it. |
| 07:41 | hello gaetan_B | |
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| 09:22 | cait | Oak: you can check it in again i think |
| 09:22 | ah sorry, running around lots today | |
| 09:28 | Oak | cait: np. got it. |
| 09:28 | :) | |
| 09:28 | things must have piled up at work after you guys return from KohaCon | |
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| 11:04 | magnuse | cait, Oak: today is my stay-at-home-with-kiddo-day, so i'm not really here :-) |
| 11:25 | Oak | okay magnuse :) nice! |
| 11:26 | later guys. | |
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| 11:34 | cait | :) tcohen! |
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| 11:54 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:00 | ashimema | Hi #koha |
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| 12:19 | francharb | good morning #koha |
| 12:22 | talljoy | good morning #koha |
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| 12:23 | talljoy | good morning tcohen |
| 12:23 | oleonard | Why is "sudo service koha-zebra-daemon start" giving me the error "Invalid --user argument: 'koha.koha' (unknown user koha)" |
| 12:23 | tcohen | morning talljoy |
| 12:27 | @later tell rangi i'm seeing this error on jenkins http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]er_D7/193/console | |
| 12:27 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:32 | Topic for #koha is now Please read the new code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/. The next Koha General IRC meeting is 19 November at 5UTC and 21UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
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| 12:34 | tcohen | http://snag.gy/ePlpd.jpg |
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| 12:44 | tcohen | bug 11944 |
| 12:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 12:44 | tcohen | t/Charset.t is failing with that |
| 12:44 | cait | hm interesting |
| 12:44 | wahanui | interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 12:45 | cait | maybe we are testing weird behaviour? which tests fail? |
| 12:45 | ashimema++ | |
| 12:45 | bug 13019 need ssignoff... | |
| 12:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13019 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add base classes on which to build Koha objects |
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| 12:47 | tcohen | "verify octets are not valid UTF-8" |
| 12:48 | ah | |
| 12:48 | it is using the utf8* tools | |
| 12:50 | ah, no | |
| 12:51 | oleonard | Anyone know why is "sudo service koha-zebra-daemon start" giving me the error "Invalid --user argument: 'koha.koha' (unknown user koha)" ? |
| 12:54 | tcohen | grep koha /etc/passwd |
| 12:54 | grep -q koha /etc/passwd || echo "User koha not defined" | |
| 12:56 | oleonard | I see, thanks tcohen |
| 12:56 | tcohen | if you are on a dev setup |
| 12:56 | maybe you should change the init script to match the current user | |
| 12:56 | (yours) | |
| 12:57 | cait: can u confirm the biblibre/ft/bug_11944 branch is failing Charset.t? | |
| 12:57 | ashimema | nice desktop tcohen |
| 12:57 | tcohen | :-D |
| 12:59 | ashimema | cait.. was just about to copy my thoughts about bug 13019 added to bug 12892 to the other bug.. |
| 13:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13019 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add base classes on which to build Koha objects |
| 13:00 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12892 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Holds Waiting: not showing from check out screen | |
| 13:00 | ashimema | hopefully it might get some movement on them again ;) |
| 13:03 | cait | tcohen: not right now sorry, working on something |
| 13:03 | i can try when i get home? | |
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| 13:04 | oleonard | tcohen shall not be refused! FEAR HIS WRATH! |
| 13:04 | tcohen | hmpf |
| 13:04 | no alfajores for cait | |
| 13:06 | ashimema | tcohen, have you cast your eye's over the koha::objects stuff much.. ? |
| 13:06 | * cait | got her own still :P |
| 13:07 | ashimema | wondered if you could give any comments on the bug ;) |
| 13:07 | tcohen | we've worked with that during the hackfest |
| 13:07 | with Joubu and rangi | |
| 13:07 | ashimema | what were your feeling/thoughts |
| 13:08 | none of them went onto bugzilla ;) | |
| 13:08 | tcohen | i don't like the code, but it seems pretty handy |
| 13:08 | the result was compact and readable code | |
| 13:09 | ashimema | have you seen pianohackers work on Koha::Services? |
| 13:10 | tcohen | ashimema: no |
| 13:10 | ashimema | https://github.com/pianohacker[…]c84667fe633868fda |
| 13:10 | tcohen | cait: IsStringUTF8ish is used for several marc conversions, so a sensitive one |
| 13:11 | ashimema | They relate fairly nicely to the Objects.. |
| 13:11 | and make me start asking questions of the objects again.. | |
| 13:11 | * ashimema | should probably go get back to normal work again |
| 13:12 | cait | I don't care by now how we do it |
| 13:12 | but we need to move in one direction | |
| 13:13 | tcohen | ashimema: impressive |
| 13:13 | ashimema | my gut is telling me that with the current koha:objects stuff we're basically going to end up building dbix::class again.. on top of dbix::class |
| 13:13 | which seems a bit maddening.. | |
| 13:14 | * ashimema | would like to point out that he's spent the last three weeks or so buildig a module on top of both koha::objects and koha::services |
| 13:14 | ashimema | to see how they fit together. |
| 13:14 | tcohen | ashimema: what i saw was some syntactic sugar for building more readable code, but havent gone through it |
| 13:14 | jcamins | ashimema: my gut said that too. |
| 13:14 | tcohen | the RM shouldn't host a conference at the same time |
| 13:15 | ashimema | haha.. poor tcohen.. |
| 13:15 | sending cookies | |
| 13:15 | tcohen | you get too worried about organizational stuff, and cannot focus on Koha |
| 13:16 | well, it is Koha, but away from the technicall stuff | |
| 13:16 | ashimema | https://github.com/mrenvoize/Koha/tree/ill_master |
| 13:16 | there's my crazily hasty work to date on implimenting a new module using both koha::objects and koha::services. | |
| 13:16 | if anyone's interested.. | |
| 13:17 | tcohen | anyone working on the UTF8 patches, please take a look at IsStringUTF8ish mis-behaving on the branch |
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| 13:17 | ashimema | it's in many messy commits thus far.. and need tidying still.. but as a proof of concept on working with those two it's not too bad. |
| 13:21 | tcohen | what will you call the endpoint? |
| 13:21 | /api/v1/ ? | |
| 13:21 | please? | |
| 13:21 | ashimema | haha.. could do ;) |
| 13:22 | tcohen | please :-D |
| 13:22 | ashimema | at the moment I've just added an /svc/ill |
| 13:22 | but i was planning to do exactly as you suggest.. /api/*version*/ill | |
| 13:23 | along those lines at least.. | |
| 13:23 | I'de like a really clear distinction between 'the new way' and 'the old way'/'the old ways' | |
| 13:23 | cait | :) |
| 13:23 | tcohen | do u need the 'iññ' namespace at all? |
| 13:23 | cait | tcohen: maybe leave a comment on the bug if you haven't yet - might wake up dpavlin |
| 13:23 | tcohen | sorry ill |
| 13:23 | jcamins | iññ? |
| 13:24 | * ashimema | is really opinionated about api's now |
| 13:24 | tcohen | jcamins: it's a wrongly written 'ill' word |
| 13:24 | ashimema | ill is not so much a namespace as a route |
| 13:24 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 13:25 | ashimema | though perhaps it could just be /api/version/router (with all routes defined in that file).. but I like to have seperation on concerns more than that.. |
| 13:25 | so.. you'de query the api via /api/*version*/ill[thing you want to do] | |
| 13:26 | tcohen | but if you are implementing /checkout for ill, maybe is not ill specific |
| 13:26 | that's what I meant | |
| 13:26 | ashimema | 'get ~/ill/:id' for example returning the entire ILL object with specified id |
| 13:26 | tcohen | @later tell gmcharlt is it possible that the idea of IsStringUTF8ish is to be loose regarding UTF-8 validity? |
| 13:26 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:27 | ashimema | the ill object is meant to only handle the 'requests' workflow.. |
| 13:27 | cait | i like having it by module i think - it will be good as it grows |
| 13:27 | tcohen | ok |
| 13:27 | ashimema | I'de expect the 'checkout' action to get passed on to a ~/circ/ api route |
| 13:27 | cait | being more obvious what we are doing there |
| 13:27 | ashimema | does that make sense? |
| 13:27 | * cait | thinks it does |
| 13:28 | jcamins | tcohen: _I_ want an iññ namespace. |
| 13:29 | ashimema | my Koha::Service::ILL module is a bit of a hackup at the minute though.. very much a work in progress.. |
| 13:29 | There's stuff in there that should really be factored out into the other modules/namespaces.. | |
| 13:30 | tcohen | cait: will you ask Holger for some notes about his feature? |
| 13:30 | ashimema | and i've also kinda decided I don't like the 'Request' object being under a Borrower object.. it made sense at first.. but makes less sense now we've worked on it somemore ;) |
| 13:31 | When do you need those shib ntoes for tcohen.. trying to schedule stuff around leave next week ;) | |
| 13:31 | tcohen | asap |
| 13:31 | cait | tcohen: there is a wiki page :) |
| 13:31 | ashimema | k.. will do it before I go away then |
| 13:31 | thanks | |
| 13:32 | cait | tcohen: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]matic_renewal_RFC |
| 13:40 | hmmm what would you tell a library that asks how to import checkouts, subscriptions etc. into koha? | |
| 13:40 | do we have scripts somewhere? i thought there were some migration tools somewhere, but too blind to spot them right now | |
| 13:40 | question on the german mailing list | |
| 13:42 | ashimema | from a random system.. they'll probably need to write their own scripts.. that's kinda the support providers bread and butter ;) |
| 13:42 | there isn't just a standard form to stick it in koha via a pre-written script out there.. | |
| 13:43 | best stating point might be eythian's repo.. | |
| 13:43 | he's got a repo of such scripts.. but it's only a starting place ;) | |
| 13:46 | cait | hmmm |
| 13:46 | i think i am going to tell them that they are normally written to the database with custom written scripts | |
| 13:46 | and point to the database structure? | |
| 13:49 | tcohen | cait: that's a good answer |
| 13:51 | ashimema | good answer cait |
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| 13:54 | * cait | rewards herself with alfajores |
| 13:55 | cait | or more one... what's the singular? |
| 13:55 | tcohen | alfajor |
| 13:56 | cait | aah |
| 13:56 | my next spanish calss is tomorrow... i am worried :) didn't learn my vocabulary! | |
| 13:57 | hm vocabulary words? | |
| 13:57 | * oleonard | googled alfajores and is hungry now |
| 13:58 | oleonard | http://www.recipegirl.com/2009[…]memade-alfajores/ |
| 14:01 | cait | mmh |
| 14:05 | ashimema | I've written a quick splurge on Shib tcohen.. |
| 14:05 | on trello.. | |
| 14:05 | might be a bit sprawling.. shout if you would like me to cut it down. | |
| 14:06 | man those look tasty | |
| 14:09 | * cait | thinks htat jcamins should make some alfajores and share with oleonard :) |
| 14:14 | * jcamins | thinks that any alfajores he makes would need chocolate to offset the stress of the fact that he's having his bathroom renovated in four weeks. |
| 14:14 | jcamins | A lot of chocolate. |
| 14:14 | In fact, I think the alfajores might be too much work. | |
| 14:15 | Just send me all the chocolate. | |
| 14:15 | cait | lol |
| 14:18 | * oleonard | makes a big batch of chocolate-filled alfajores, then scrapes out all the chocolate to send to jcamins |
| 14:18 | cait | hm |
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| 15:29 | oleonard | khall around? |
| 15:29 | khall | waht's up? |
| 15:30 | oleonard | I'm confused about Bug 12632 |
| 15:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12632 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Hold limits ignored for record level holds with item level itemtypes |
| 15:30 | oleonard | It makes sense that a hold limit by itemtype doesn't work if the two records lack a biblio-level itemtype? |
| 15:31 | khall | yes, if you haven't set a biblio-level itemtype you'll get the same pre-patch behavior |
| 15:33 | oleonard | And the pre-patch behavior is that hold limitations by itemtype don't work for item-level holds? |
| 15:33 | Sorry, don't work for item-level itemtypes? | |
| 15:37 | khall | that is correct |
| 15:38 | oleonard | So the fix is intended to enable hold limitation by itemtype for records which have both biblio-level itemtype and item-level itemtype? |
| 15:38 | ...but only if they are identical? | |
| 15:38 | khall | not, they don't don't to be identical |
| 15:39 | If the hold is an item-level hold, it will use the limitations based on the item's itemtype | |
| 15:39 | if the holds is record-level, it will use the limitations based on the record's itemtype | |
| 15:39 | but it makes the most sense to have them match | |
| 15:40 | oleonard | Pity the library which has circulating and non-circulating items attached to the same record. |
| 15:42 | having item-level itemtypes should make biblio-level itemtypes irrelevant | |
| 15:43 | khall | that would be nice, but record level holds are getting in the way ; ) |
| 15:44 | oleonard: this new system still won't let the system trap and non-circulating item for a hold | |
| 15:44 | s/and/a | |
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| 16:00 | oleonard | I'm thinking of testing Bug 5010 but I'm not sure I have enough provisions to make it through the test plan |
| 16:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol |
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| 16:01 | oleonard | Hi hbraum |
| 16:02 | hbraum | hi oleonard :) i know i need to be in here more often! |
| 16:03 | gaetan_B | byez |
| 16:07 | cbrannon | Hi hbraum! |
| 16:07 | hbraum | hi cbrannon! I’m actually in IRC…for a few minutes…shocking, I know :) |
| 16:07 | cbrannon | You rebel. |
| 16:07 | hbraum | heading out in 30 minutes to train a new staff member at one of our libraries. |
| 16:07 | i plead the fifht. | |
| 16:08 | fifth. | |
| 16:09 | cbrannon | hbraum, I did something bad. |
| 16:10 | hbraum | uh oh…what did you do? |
| 16:11 | cbrannon | I haven't been able to touch my Koha VM since the meeting. I can't remember my credentials! So, I am trying to build a new one. And I can't for the life of me remember which set of instructions we worked with at the meeting. Do you? |
| 16:13 | hbraum | Let me get a couple of things done and then see if I still have my notes somewhere. And I haven’t touched mine either. |
| 16:13 | ashimema | brannon.. surely you can boot into single user mode and change the root passwords ;) |
| 16:14 | for the existing vm that is.. | |
| 16:14 | cbrannon | Thanks. I'll keep scouring. I just remember what we used at the meeting seemed to work the best. |
| 16:14 | ashimema | sorry.. randomly butting in ;) |
| 16:15 | cbrannon | ashimema, if I was a seasoned pro at debian, perhaps. I'm still getting adjusted to the environment. |
| 16:16 | ashimema | https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/D[…]set_root_password |
| 16:16 | http://xmodulo.com/how-to-rese[…]ebian-ubuntu.html | |
| 16:17 | tere's a few guides to it.. us admins are notorious for forgetting such important information aye ;) | |
| 16:17 | anywho.. feel free to do whichever.. though this may say you the time of starting form scratch ;) | |
| 16:17 | have fun | |
| 16:19 | cbrannon | Thanks. I've bookmarked these resources. However, I still need to build from the ground up. I want to make sure I understand it all, and I need a box on my desktop. Last one was on my personal laptop. |
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| 16:20 | ashimema | coolios.. well shout if you ever need any deb help.. there's plenty of us here that'l happily advise ;) |
| 16:20 | have fun :) | |
| 16:26 | hbraum | cbrannon looking now… |
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| 16:32 | hbraum | cbrannon this is all i can find at this time; not sure how complete the notes are. I know we did more, though that day… https://docs.google.com/docume[…]/edit?usp=sharing |
| 16:32 | i’ve got a couple of things about webim and iceweasel? browser? but those notes aren’t making much sense at this point. | |
| 16:33 | i have to make handout copies and head out the door — library is 45 minutes away. Good luck! | |
| 16:33 | bye | |
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| 16:49 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 16:49 | I have a question about the last meeting. | |
| 16:49 | Specifically 2015. | |
| 16:49 | Kohacon. | |
| 16:49 | wahanui | rumour has it kohacon is http://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon14/ |
| 16:50 | mtompset | When is the last day to get a proposal in? |
| 16:52 | oleonard | Friday 15 August 2014 was the deadline. |
| 16:52 | mtompset | Ah. |
| 16:53 | Thanks for the information. It is so hard to rally my Filipino friends and colleagues. | |
| 16:55 | Crispin put up Zambia. | |
| 16:56 | Chrispin Simasiku Sitali put up Zambia without other information. | |
| 17:00 | oleonard | The only information we got from Zambia was the email to the list. I wasn't even they who updated the wiki page. |
| 17:00 | So it hasn't been considered to be a genuine proposal. | |
| 17:01 | I think someone may have emailed for more information, but I could be wrong. | |
| 17:05 | cait | oleonard-away: is right, i think brooke put it up on the wiki, but we neverheard more |
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| 17:08 | mtompset | If I pushed for a Filipino proposal up in the next 2-3 weeks, is that time enough for it to be considered for Kohacon 2015? |
| 17:09 | cait | kohacon15 votes haven't opened yet i think |
| 17:09 | um | |
| 17:09 | sorry | |
| 17:09 | 2015 is nigeria | |
| 17:10 | unless they say they don't want to do it | |
| 17:10 | and it's a ibt early for 2016 maybe | |
| 17:10 | mtompset | When does the proposal have to be in by? |
| 17:10 | Need a deadline. | |
| 17:10 | To force people to follow up. | |
| 17:22 | cait | there is no deadline set yet for 2016 |
| 17:22 | that's more than a year away | |
| 17:35 | oleonard | if we followed the same schedule then the deadline for 2016 would be around August 2015 |
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| 18:00 | oleonard | The list of non-enhancement bugs needing signoff is really not that big: I count 43 |
| 18:02 | rangi | yeah kohacon15 is decided already |
| 18:02 | unless they say they no longer want it | |
| 18:03 | they have put up 3 really good proposals 3 years in a row | |
| 18:05 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 18:05 | rangi | heya oleonard |
| 18:05 | wahanui | oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
| 18:06 | rangi | oleonard: i put the number on the dashboard to make it so you dont have to count :) |
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| 18:06 | rangi | Needs Signoff - 186 43 bugs |
| 18:06 | i also added totals to the signoffs, and qa columns now so we can see monthly and yearly totals :) | |
| 18:07 | tcohen | rangi: where? |
| 18:07 | (hi :-D) | |
| 18:08 | rangi | tcohen: on the dashboard |
| 18:08 | Total - 100 | |
| 18:08 | exactly 100 signoffs in october .. at the moment | |
| 18:08 | tcohen | oh, I see |
| 18:09 | awesome | |
| 18:18 | cait | :) |
| 18:18 | rangi++ | |
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| 18:59 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 19:01 | cait | oleonard++ :) |
| 19:13 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11586 follow-up, FA framework update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dfc373688aeed04ed> / Bug 11586 follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f3001faf7952d3d58> / Bug 11586: Better default framework for UNIMARC - zebra conf <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc3191aabb74cc28d |
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| 19:50 | Rich_T | anyone running Koha via hosting company such as Go Daddy? |
| 19:55 | mtj | Rich_T, some folks use linode and digital-ocean hosting for Koha |
| 19:56 | not sure about go-daddy tho | |
| 19:57 | druthb | I don't think it'd work well in a shared-hosting environment; no real easy way to run services and such, like Zebra. But in a VPS system, sure. |
| 19:58 | mtj | ah yeah, i thought go-daddy might offer a VPS service, rather than shared-hosting |
| 19:59 | druthb | they might. Linode works Very Well, and at very reasonable prices. |
| 20:00 | mtj | indeed |
| 20:06 | * mtj | waves to druthb_away |
| 20:06 | mtj | ...long time no chat - hope things are well for you :0) |
| 20:46 | rangi | also godaddy ... ewwww |
| 20:47 | they should spend less time shooting elephants and hiring booth babes and more time making a service which doesnt suck | |
| 21:01 | hmm i need tcohen or bgkriegel here to take the first few hits of the mate for me, so i get the more mellow ones | |
| 21:02 | cait | heh |
| 21:10 | hm | |
| 21:10 | looking for a usable project management software | |
| 21:10 | found nothing so far | |
| 21:10 | well plan - but that's awful | |
| 21:11 | * wizzyrea | doesn't have any particularly good recommendations there. |
| 21:13 | rangi | taiga? |
| 21:14 | https://taiga.io/ | |
| 21:14 | https://github.com/taigaio | |
| 21:32 | cait | rangi: thx, looking |
| 21:32 | eythian | I've had a bit of a play with it, it seems pretty functional and simple. |
| 21:32 | also, hi | |
| 21:32 | cait | hi eythian :) |
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| 21:42 | bgkriegel_ | Hola! |
| 21:42 | rangi | hi bgkriegel_ :) |
| 21:42 | bgkriegel_ | hi rangi :) |
| 21:43 | rangi | is pipore an ok brand for mate? |
| 21:43 | it seems to taste ok to me .. but im a novice :) | |
| 21:43 | bgkriegel_ | yeah, it's ok |
| 21:44 | it's piporé, strees on last e, a guarani word | |
| 21:44 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
| 21:44 | huginn | bgkriegel_: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 33.6°C (6:40 PM ART on October 23, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:44 | rangi | ahh right |
| 21:44 | bgkriegel_ | hot |
| 21:44 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 21:44 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on October 24, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:44 | rangi | not hot |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | downright chillly. |
| 21:45 | bgkriegel_ | hehe |
| 21:45 | and will be hotter, if forecast is right :( | |
| 21:46 | rangi | http://amigofoods.co.nz/YerbaMate <-- ill try the Rosamonte next time |
| 21:46 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 21:46 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.3°C (11:45 PM CEST on October 23, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:47 | cait | rangi: i win :( |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | it's suave |
| 21:48 | rangi | hehe i got the traditional one, not suave |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 21:52 | cbrannon | Trying to install koha on VMWare. Got it installed, but not sure how to get to the staff interface. If I type "localhost" I see the maintenance page, but can't figure out how to get to the staff side. |
| 21:52 | Anyone have any ideas? | |
| 21:53 | bgkriegel_ | cbrannon: http://localhost:8080/? |
| 21:54 | eythian | cbrannon: how did you install it? |
| 21:57 | cbrannon | eythian: pretty much the way described here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tep:_Install_Koha |
| 21:58 | Except I can't do the first part with the ip addresses. These instructions are on a ubuntu desktop. Can't find any instructions installing in VM on a windows desktop. | |
| 21:58 | with Debian Squeeze | |
| 21:58 | eythian | It's more or less the same. |
| 21:59 | cbrannon | localhost:8080 just says unable to connect |
| 21:59 | eythian | yeah, the packages use virtual hosts by default, so you need to modify your /etc/hosts like in the instructions. |
| 22:00 | I think it's something like /windows/system32/etc/hosts or similar on windows. | |
| 22:00 | (also, I wouldn't have gone with squeeze, wheezy has been out for a year or so now.) | |
| 22:01 | cbrannon | I've no idea how to point my host desktop to my vm. |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | I recall it was a bit tricky the last time I did it which was ages ago. |
| 22:02 | eythian | cbrannon: you're going to have to make sure that your desktop can access the IP allocated to the virtual machine. |
| 22:02 | I don't know vmware, so can't help there. | |
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| 22:24 | tcohen | hi there |
| 22:24 | eythian | hi tcohen |
| 22:24 | rangi | hi tcohen |
| 22:25 | bgkriegel_ | question: fieldmapping table is empty by default? |
| 22:25 | hi tcohen | |
| 22:25 | tcohen | hi bgkriegel_ |
| 22:25 | rangi | what is that table even for? |
| 22:25 | https://mahara.org/interaction[…]topic.php?id=6509 <-- we need our own song too | |
| 22:25 | bgkriegel_ | checking bug 13083 |
| 22:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13083 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Hard-coded " by " in opac-tags.pl |
| 22:25 | eythian | it's that keyword buisiness |
| 22:26 | rangi | ahh |
| 22:26 | hmm | |
| 22:26 | eythian | | id | field | frameworkcode | fieldcode | subfieldcode | |
| 22:26 | +----+---------------------------+---------------+-----------+--------------+ | |
| 22:26 | | 2 | subtitle | | 245 | b | | |
| 22:26 | bgkriegel_ | it use GetRecordValue, which do a selct from fieldmapping |
| 22:26 | rangi | ah right, i remember now |
| 22:26 | yeah | |
| 22:26 | yeah im pretty sure its empty by default | |
| 22:26 | eythian | that subtitle one I think is an optional thing that can be installed |
| 22:26 | bgkriegel_ | but mine is empty, so i don't get expected results |
| 22:27 | eythian: no :) only russian and ukranian installs have something | |
| 22:28 | cait | hm we have no sample values for it, i think ti should not have negative effects if it is empty |
| 22:28 | it's an optional feature | |
| 22:28 | eythian | hmm, maybe that's changed then, this db I'm looking at has the subtitle thing, and I've definitely seen that elswhere. |
| 22:28 | bgkriegel_ | is there a way to put some values on it from staff, or only using sql? |
| 22:29 | eythian | I think it's the keyword thing |
| 22:29 | hmm | |
| 22:29 | maybe not | |
| 22:29 | rangi | yeah from staff the keyword thingy in admin .. or tools? |
| 22:29 | eythian | I don't know |
| 22:29 | admin | |
| 22:29 | the db I'm looking at has two entries | |
| 22:29 | but only one shows in the staff client | |
| 22:29 | tcohen | Keywords to MARC mapping on Admin |
| 22:29 | eythian | oh, the other is specific to a framework |
| 22:30 | rangi | /cgi-bin/koha/admin/fieldmapping.pl that one |
| 22:30 | bgkriegel_ | ok :) |
| 22:30 | tcohen | exactly |
| 22:31 | the whole tags thing should be refactored into zebra/es | |
| 22:31 | cait | tcohen: should be any tests failing atm? |
| 22:31 | tcohen | cait: no |
| 22:31 | cait | hm |
| 22:31 | tcohen | there's a situation with Serials.t |
| 22:31 | that fails "sometimes" | |
| 22:31 | still cannot figure | |
| 22:31 | cait | my t/db_d/Holds.t are exploding |
| 22:32 | and i already truncated reserves and old_reserves :( | |
| 22:32 | tcohen | cait: not failing here, or on jenkins |
| 22:32 | output? | |
| 22:33 | cait | paste.koha-community.org/245 |
| 22:35 | eythian | if no protocol is specified, gopher:// is assumed. |
| 22:35 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "mine" (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/246 |
| 22:35 | tcohen | eythian++ |
| 22:35 | cait | gr |
| 22:37 | bgkriegel_ | Q: Bug 13120, w3c validator complains but not for oleonard id's, but for some '&' not expressed as '&' in urls, seems some code on facets |
| 22:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13120 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Invalid HTML generated by MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl |
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| 22:46 | tcohen | cait: can i help u debugging it? |
| 22:47 | cait | :) too late today, but thx foroffering |
| 22:48 | night all | |
| 22:48 | wahanui | goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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| 22:48 | tcohen | night cait |
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| 23:03 | tcohen | eythian: what should we do about 12689 |
| 23:08 | eythian | bug 12689 |
| 23:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12689 blocker, P3, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Search.t fails to run on Squeeze |
| 23:08 | eythian | tcohen: it's fixed |
| 23:08 | fixed it a while back | |
| 23:09 | tcohen | how is that? |
| 23:09 | eythian | I just didn't close the bug |
| 23:09 | tcohen | :-D |
| 23:09 | ok | |
| 23:09 | eythian | I added an updated module to the repo |
| 23:09 | tcohen | oh |
| 23:09 | eythian | I would like to start deprecating squeeze some time soonish, really. |
| 23:10 | (though, we have a lot of stuff still on it, so this won't be really soon.) | |
| 23:11 | * tcohen | agrees |
| 23:12 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 23:12 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 23:12 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_U14 build #183: FIXED in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Master_U14/183/ |
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| 23:15 | tcohen | eythian: thanks for closing it |
| 23:15 | eythian | np |
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| 23:23 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 23:23 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 23:23 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_U12 build #200: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Master_U12/200/ |
| 23:24 | tcohen | rangi: grs1 deprecated, should we just remove it from the install options? |
| 23:25 | rangi | hmmm for new installs? id be inclined to say yes, but id check with the people doing icu and stuff .. its all fine with that eh? |
| 23:27 | tcohen | it is worth asking, of course |
| 23:28 | we have deprecated grs1, meaning we are not patching it unless on the stable branch 3.16, since june) | |
| 23:28 | we are not deleting grs1 support, it should at least be announced with enough time | |
| 23:29 | rangi | yep |
| 23:29 | tcohen | i will just make DOM the default everuwhere |
| 23:29 | rangi | sounds good to me |
| 23:30 | tcohen | adn add a message to the about page |
| 23:30 | if the user is still on GRS-1 | |
| 23:38 | is install_misc/environment_Makefile.PL used? | |
| 23:42 | rangi | i was using it |
| 23:42 | when i had jenkins doing a full install | |
| 23:42 | but not sure if others are | |
| 23:43 | tcohen | ok, will patch it to use DOM too, just in case |
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