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| 02:05 | wizzyrea | O.o no slapping. |
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| 03:33 | wizzyrea | hi, um, question |
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| 03:33 | wizzyrea | one of you with an updated bash - can you koha-disable? |
| 03:34 | I keep getting /usr/sbin/koha-disable: 35: [: =: argument expected | |
| 03:35 | * wizzyrea | just leaves that there |
| 03:35 | wizzyrea | I don't have any non-updated bashes to test with. |
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| 05:07 | mtj | me too wizzyrea |
| 05:08 | i do recall that error too | |
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| 05:08 | mtj | Bug 12856 |
| 05:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12856 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-disable fails without disabling site |
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| 05:20 | bobb_ | hello |
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| 05:20 | bobb_ | anyone about? |
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| 05:21 | bobb_ | mtj about? |
| 05:21 | chrisvella94__ | ping BobB |
| 05:21 | mtj | hiya |
| 05:21 | about | |
| 05:21 | bobb_ | hi mtj |
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| 05:22 | bobb_ | we're having bizzare irc problems over here |
| 05:23 | anyway, I seem to be connected | |
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| 05:26 | mtj | bingpond seems to be bouncing for the last few hours |
| 05:26 | bingpong | |
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| 05:30 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:31 | BobB | hi magnuse |
| 05:31 | chrisvella94 | Hello BobB |
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| 05:32 | magnuse | howdy BobB |
| 05:32 | ...and irma | |
| 05:34 | bobb_ | we're experiencing irc flakiness - probably at our ISP |
| 05:34 | sorry for the noise | |
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| 06:42 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:52 | ashimema | Good morning #koha |
| 06:53 | sophie_m | good morning #koha and ashimema |
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| 06:57 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:04 | mtj | hi all |
| 07:04 | wizzyrea: aah sorry, i thought you were getting that error on an *old* bash | |
| 07:05 | you are getting that on a new one huh :/ | |
| 07:06 | hmm, it works for me - i'll add my debug to the ticket | |
| 07:08 | ashimema | no cait yet? |
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| 07:10 | cait | morning #koha |
| 07:10 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 07:12 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 07:12 | ashimema | lol.. |
| 07:12 | I was just asking where yuo were cait | |
| 07:12 | marcelr | ashimena: did you perhaps have a look at bug 12823 (as a result of your qa work for 6536) ? |
| 07:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Add some hints for Host, Database and SRU search fields mappings |
| 07:12 | cait | hm 9:12... not late really :) |
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| 07:19 | fridolin | hie all |
| 07:20 | cait | hi fridolin |
| 07:22 | fridolin | hie cait good morning |
| 07:22 | marcelr | hi fridolin |
| 07:23 | thx for your signoff | |
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| 07:23 | paul_p | hi #koha |
| 07:24 | cait | morning paul_p |
| 07:24 | countdown is running :) | |
| 07:24 | paul_p | would be funny if not related to a 200+k€ tender : "your offer is rejected because you haven't proven that you're a representative or manufacturer of the offered software" (which is #koha, of course...) |
| 07:25 | cait yep, and EOS (End Of Strike) for Air France. (Just heard that Lufthansa pilots are starting one !) | |
| 07:25 | cait | wtf? |
| 07:25 | paul_p: flying swiss and aerolinea argentina... so hopefully not a problem | |
| 07:25 | paul_p | cait = probably an administrative ppl that understand nothing to OpenSource. And my letter saying "it's irrelevant" has not been enough to convince them... |
| 07:25 | ++ | |
| 07:27 | magnuse | ouch |
| 07:28 | ashimema | paul_p.. what a joke of a tender response |
| 07:28 | paul_p | magnuse (no cheese for you if I can't change their mind :\ ) |
| 07:29 | ashimema | Is 'Koha::Database->new()->schema()->resultset('')' really how were calling dbic!? |
| 07:29 | feels like allot of boiler to me. | |
| 07:30 | rangi | thats all dbix ashimema no boiler at all |
| 07:30 | ashimema | In all my dbic appas I have the conenction handled further up.. |
| 07:31 | rangi | exactly |
| 07:31 | ashimema | so in my modules I just call db->resultset() |
| 07:31 | rangi | which is what i was saying |
| 07:31 | marcelr | ashimema: you could split that line |
| 07:31 | ashimema | seems odd to me that we pass the connection down into the modules.. but I'm sure there's a reason |
| 07:32 | but then I suppose in my apps I'm also using dbic within my objecyt.. so it's actuall $sefl->db-> | |
| 07:33 | anywho.. | |
| 07:33 | thanks for clarification | |
| 07:33 | rangi | it doesnt actually matter where you do it, as long as you arent doing it in the scripts |
| 07:33 | ashimema | I'm sure I just spotted a few places where it's already in scripts |
| 07:34 | rangi | yep, that will need to be fixed, imho, thats just as bad as sql in the scripts |
| 07:34 | ashimema | I take it from that that we decided upon something after the dbic meeting.. |
| 07:34 | I thought it was going the other way.. | |
| 07:35 | cait | i think no final resolutio sof ar :( |
| 07:35 | ashimema | :'( |
| 07:35 | cait | there is still the question if some easy things can be done in pl scripts, like find and search I think? |
| 07:36 | where you don't have lots of logic | |
| 07:36 | rangi | there never will be, and trying to get one is futile, working code will win, forget i even mentioned dbix::class |
| 07:37 | cait | rangi: the problem is... the code seems to work with different approaches - hard for QA |
| 07:38 | ashimema | looks like ->count, ->find, ->search and ->columns all exist in scripts already ;) |
| 07:38 | I no likey | |
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| 08:22 | Joubu | Hello #koha |
| 08:22 | cait | hi Joubu :) |
| 08:22 | magnuse | bonjour Joubu |
| 08:24 | marcelr | hi Joubu |
| 08:25 | Joubu | hi cait, magnuse and marcelr :) |
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| 08:40 | bobb_ | hello |
| 08:43 | magnuse | hiya bobb_ |
| 08:46 | BobB__ | hi magnuse |
| 08:46 | looks like our IRC weirdness is resolved :) | |
| 08:47 | * BobB__ | goes to cook dinner |
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| 09:28 | akafred | I sent a message to koha-devel on Friday ... doesn't seem to have arrived...? Strange? |
| 09:29 | magnuse | akafred: you are subscribed to the list? |
| 09:31 | akafred | Yup. But haven't received anything since Thursday. (Mail from Jonathan Druart.) Which is in line with what the archives show: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ptember/date.html |
| 09:34 | magnuse | ah, perhaps someone needs to give the mail server a kick? |
| 09:35 | probably someone at biblibre - paul_p should know... | |
| 09:38 | paul_p | akafred : I've asked lds to come. He's the one managing our infrastructure, including mail servers (cc magnuse ) |
| 09:39 | akafred = can you send an email to sysop at biblibre.Com, laurent can't come for now. | |
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| 09:49 | akafred | Will do. |
| 09:52 | Done. | |
| 09:52 | cait | akafred++ |
| 09:52 | akafred | Thanks cait ;-) |
| 09:54 | cait | :) |
| 09:58 | that made me laugh :) http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]like-to-be-the-rm | |
| 10:06 | tcohen++ | |
| 10:09 | magnuse | y'all be nice to him during kohacon, ok? |
| 10:09 | * cait | promises |
| 10:09 | magnuse | :-) |
| 10:59 | khall | mornin all! |
| 11:00 | marcelr | hi khall |
| 11:01 | magnuse | bonjour khall |
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| 11:44 | cait | hi khall :) |
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| 11:56 | oleonard | marcelr: That the Cart and Lists don't work with JS disabled is a bug, not intentional |
| 11:57 | The Cart button shouldn't show up at all | |
| 12:00 | The lists feature should mostly work with JS off, so the button should be an active link to the lists page | |
| 12:02 | Anyone here have the power to boot someone from the mailing list? | |
| 12:04 | cait | oleonard: which one? |
| 12:04 | wahanui | which one is, like, that? The fixed navbar |
| 12:04 | oleonard | Spam messages from maqsood.dbagmail.com to the Koha list |
| 12:04 | cait | hm not sure about the main koha list, becasue that's katipo |
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| 12:24 | marcelr | oleonard: Yes, these are inconsistencies. But since a lot of stuff goes via js or jquery now, the question is if we should support disabling it at all. The secureness of doing so seems somewhat dubious. |
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| 12:24 | oleonard | marcelr: It has for a long time been the goal that the OPAC should function reasonably well without JS. That doesn't mean that I think browsing without JS is a good idea. |
| 12:25 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:25 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
| 12:28 | tcohen | hi marcelr |
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| 12:48 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
| 12:49 | oleonard | By the way marcelr, you can disable JavaScript in Firefox from the built-in Developer Tools pane (same in Chrome) |
| 12:49 | marcelr | ok |
| 12:49 | oleonard | Click the "gear" icon and find the checkbox labeled "Disable JavaScript" |
| 12:50 | * oleonard | uses the Web Developer addon instead |
| 12:50 | marcelr | yes i see it now thx |
| 12:54 | francharb | Good morning all. Quick question because I dont remember. Does Koha use indicator for non filling caracter to sort search results? |
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| 13:07 | cait | francharb: currently not afaik |
| 13:08 | francharb | thanks cait |
| 13:09 | cait | francharb: i think we don't do something with them, we probably couuld with dom... |
| 13:09 | but that woudl require work | |
| 13:10 | barrc | hey all - has anyone noticed a slow down in search results in systems that package upgrade from 3.14 to 3.16? |
| 13:12 | cait | barrc: i had a coworker comment to that - coming from 3.12 |
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| 13:14 | barrc | cait: Do you know if they managed to nail down a reason? I've exhausted my limit knowledge of zebrasrv at this stage. The debug logs show zebra completing quick but it waits for 10-12 seconds before issuing results!? |
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| 13:15 | * magnuse | has not heard any complaints |
| 13:17 | cait | wow that's really too long then |
| 13:17 | i am not sure what you can do there :( | |
| 13:17 | maybe someone else has an idea? | |
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| 13:20 | oleonard | My search results ordered by title ignore (English) articles |
| 13:21 | barrc | I know, it's a killer. Small enough results set too. Anyhoo, I'll running through it, line by line. Which is nice! |
| 13:22 | oleonard | francharb: ^^ |
| 13:22 | ...With DOM indexing ...though I don't know how it's doing it :) | |
| 13:23 | * oleonard | suspects magic |
| 13:24 | cait | oleonard: oh |
| 13:24 | oleonard: i thought that was broken, we get complaints actually... interesting! | |
| 13:24 | maybe there is some magic that we are missing for german | |
| 13:25 | oleonard | This is in my test system so you can assume it's not any magic which required my intervention |
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| 13:27 | cait | oleonard: i suspect there is a zebra file somewhere that says: ignore the |
| 13:28 | francharb | oleonard, cait, I know zebra use a file of non sorting character. The default is for english articles : a an, the, etc |
| 13:28 | yes there is cait | |
| 13:29 | cait | francharb: intersting!! |
| 13:31 | francharb | cait, sort-string-utf.chr |
| 13:32 | cait | francharb: i am making a note to that |
| 13:33 | francharb | ;) |
| 13:34 | cait, I don't know if dom indexing use it though... | |
| 13:34 | It's very likely but i'm not 100% sur | |
| 13:34 | sure | |
| 13:35 | cait | we can test, it's something we should take a look at, but probably not this week :) |
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| 14:22 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 14:22 | @seen khall | |
| 14:22 | huginn | mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 23 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <khall> mornin all! |
| 14:23 | khall | yo |
| 14:23 | mtompset | Would you care to look at Bug 5010? :) |
| 14:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol |
| 14:24 | mtompset | This makes other fixes I'm trying to work on so much nicer. :) |
| 14:25 | I know this is a bug that Joubu also had been watching. :) | |
| 14:29 | Joubu | mtompset: yep, I will try to have a look when it will be signed off |
| 14:31 | khall | mtompset: will do! |
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| 14:32 | mtompset | Thanks. :) |
| 14:36 | khall | mtompset: would it be possible to add another unit test to prove that "http://" is prepended to the base url if it isn't provided? |
| 14:37 | mtompset | updatedatabase does that... and... |
| 14:37 | so does the ugliness in Context.pm | |
| 14:37 | which is why there are C4/Context tests. | |
| 14:39 | khall | so there's already a UT for that? |
| 14:40 | I was just looking at the new tests in your patch | |
| 14:41 | mtompset | Well, I guess there isn't an express one. |
| 14:46 | ashimema | why exactly are we pushing for having the protocol in the syspref? |
| 14:54 | If we do that I will have to change the shibboleth patch to explicitly strip out http and replace with https.. whereas at the moment I force a https redirect. | |
| 14:54 | mtompset | ashimema: which shibboleth patch? |
| 14:55 | ashimema | I don't like the idea of having the protocol in the pref at all.. it gives the library the idea that they can switch to https by just prepending the preference.. which is imho allot less that it takes. |
| 14:55 | bug 8446 | |
| 14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Shibboleth authentication patch |
| 14:56 | ashimema | it's fairly trivial to post yet another followup to do this change.. |
| 14:56 | but I just want a good reason as to why we want to hard code protocol in at the preference level.. | |
| 14:57 | surely it's somthing that should be controlled at the apache redirect level if you want to force https.. or otherwise it should be selectable by the opac user via the address bar? | |
| 14:58 | and I thought bug 11575 got around the proxy issues | |
| 14:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11575 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , OPACBaseURL sometimes set by ENV variable and not system preference |
| 14:58 | ashimema | in terms of being able to reliably get protocol from environment variables.. |
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| 15:09 | mtompset | Yes, 11575 is affected/reversed by my 5010, but that is because you can actually put in the correct URL into OPACBaseURL including http:// or https://. |
| 15:09 | you don't need to figure out the OPAC protocol when you are running the Staff client. | |
| 15:11 | Also, the Auth_with_Shibboleth.pm in your patch doesn't use OPACBaseURL at all. | |
| 15:11 | at least in the first patch... checking rest. | |
| 15:12 | Yep, second patch would need fixing. | |
| 15:12 | But why hardcode https?! | |
| 15:13 | cait | because it won't work ever without |
| 15:13 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:13 | cait | shibboleth requires https |
| 15:14 | mtompset | Fine, but why hardcode https when you can have it properly given in the OPACBaseURL? |
| 15:14 | ashimema | bacuase shibboleth is a https only protocol |
| 15:15 | I actually suggest you add redirects in your apache conf personally.. | |
| 15:16 | mtompset | should protocols be hardcoded in the code? |
| 15:16 | ashimema | not really.. |
| 15:16 | so yeah.. your right it shuldn't be in my patch either.. | |
| 15:16 | but it felt better to break it there.. than break what was the current standard in the syspref. | |
| 15:17 | mtompset | That's why I did 5010 the way I did, because if you are using the Staff client, you don't know the protocol of the OPAC, but the person setting the system preference OPACBaseURL would. |
| 15:17 | ashimema | I'm nto definitely against having protocol in pref.. but want to have a good reason. |
| 15:17 | mtompset | And if you are using shibboleth, then that protocol should be tested. |
| 15:18 | ashimema | my point is more or less.. how do you know it's https short of the apache definition.. |
| 15:19 | surely the apache config is the definative place.. Not a sys pref | |
| 15:19 | if your allowing protocol in the syspref.. but then overriding it in apache to allow both http and https.. or haven't setup https in your apache.. then other things will break when you stick https into a pref? | |
| 15:22 | mtompset | redirect https to http?! |
| 15:23 | Actually, the authoritative place is the system administrator who configures apache and koha. :) | |
| 15:23 | cait | Joubu: do you remember if we fixed the price calculation on the invoice page at some point? |
| 15:24 | Joubu: i thought there was a patch - I am seeing a problem in 3.12 i think is fixed in newer versions | |
| 15:25 | mtompset | if apache knows http only, and syspref says https. Yes, bust. But 'http' is the default add. People don't type https:// unless they know. |
| 15:25 | Joubu | cait: but 10613? |
| 15:25 | tcohen | butt |
| 15:26 | mtompset | if apache knows http and https (either directly or via redirect), and the syspref says https. No problems, as far as I can tell. |
| 15:26 | Joubu | :) |
| 15:26 | bug 10613 | |
| 15:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10613 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Gst is not calculated correctly on the invoice page |
| 15:26 | cait | hm that could be it ) |
| 15:26 | thx! | |
| 15:26 | ashimema | ok mtompset.. i yield |
| 15:26 | cait | although... i don't quite understand the report from the library |
| 15:26 | might be my brain being too tired for taxes | |
| 15:27 | mtompset | no need to yield... It just doesn't make sense that someone setting up shibboleth for koha isn't going to configure a system preference and apache. |
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| 15:33 | ashimema | my feeling was that they sholdn't need to jump through yet more hoops.. it's complicated enough ;) |
| 15:34 | I'm a fan of a single definitive point of truth.. which by adding it to a syspref your moving further away from in my opinion | |
| 15:35 | however.. I do get where your coming from now.. with links between staff and opac.. you can't reference the apache config | |
| 15:35 | but then... if apache isn't configured to force your to https for opac.. then why should the staff client always push you to https? | |
| 15:37 | mtompset | My core value is 'no hardcoding things like protocol'. :) |
| 15:38 | ashimema: There are many ways to configure, sometimes people do stupid things, and they still work. | |
| 15:43 | Plus, I put an ugly hack into the context saving preference routine to ensure http:// is added. I don't see why that couldn't be tweaked to default to https:// if useshibboleth is set in the koha-conf.xml file. | |
| 15:53 | ashimema | OK.. I'll take a look at the patch then.. and maybe give it that signoff you were fishing for ;) |
| 15:53 | you've convinced me of it's worth otherall now I think. | |
| 15:54 | mtompset | Okay. :) |
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| 17:50 | talljoy | hi cait! |
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| 18:13 | cait | hi talljoy :) |
| 18:22 | talljoy | cait are you going to argentina |
| 18:23 | cait | yes :) |
| 18:24 | talljoy: have you seen this? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_is_arriving_when | |
| 18:26 | talljoy | i need to fill that in! |
| 18:29 | we're all staying at coralt it seems. | |
| 18:29 | :-D | |
| 18:29 | cait | yep looks like it :) |
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| 18:30 | cait | talljoy: who else is coming? |
| 18:30 | mario | hola |
| 18:30 | cait | hola mario |
| 18:30 | mario | heya cait |
| 18:30 | talljoy | nate and brendan and me. |
| 18:31 | nicole was, but had to back out. | |
| 18:31 | mario | talljoy: is THE best me :D |
| 18:31 | heh | |
| 18:31 | cait | talljoy: nice :) |
| 18:32 | well that more people are coming | |
| 18:32 | sad about nicole | |
| 18:33 | * oleonard | disguises himself as nengard and takes her ticket |
| 18:33 | cait | sorry, but that picture made me laugh |
| 18:33 | talljoy | ha! |
| 18:34 | rangi | morning |
| 18:34 | cait | morning rangi |
| 18:34 | rangi | talljoy: libby coming to eh? |
| 18:35 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 18:35 | bag | morning rangi |
| 18:35 | talljoy | oh yes. libby is coming! |
| 18:35 | bag | yeah libby arrives the 11th I think |
| 18:35 | so she'll join us for the ASADO | |
| 18:36 | rangi | sahweet |
| 18:36 | cait | oleonard: i tihnk nicole likes skirts |
| 18:36 | oleonard | It would be worth it |
| 18:37 | cait | heh |
| 18:37 | i bet you even look better in one than me :) | |
| 18:40 | talljoy | i can't unsee that image in my brain. |
| 18:40 | cait | *giggles* |
| 18:41 | talljoy | do we know where to show up for day1? heck....when is day1 of kohacon? |
| 18:41 | i should put that on my calendar. lol | |
| 18:41 | rangi | monday |
| 18:41 | talljoy | 6th. got it |
| 18:42 | rangi | talljoy: if you get the eventbase app on your phone |
| 18:42 | * talljoy | plans on parking in the lobby and following where rangi goes on monday am |
| 18:42 | rangi | it has kohacon14 on it |
| 18:42 | cait | talljoy: there is a google map thing on the website :) |
| 18:42 | talljoy: that's already my plan too :) | |
| 18:42 | talljoy | i get lost on the wiki... sadly |
| 18:43 | cait | http://koha-community.org/koha[…]hacon14/schedule/ |
| 18:43 | talljoy | excellent. |
| 18:43 | cait | the full schedule is on ... eventbase or something? |
| 18:43 | talljoy | getting app installed as well |
| 18:43 | rangi | yeah |
| 18:43 | cait | http://koha-community.org/koha[…]/kohacon14/venue/ |
| 18:43 | here are the maps | |
| 18:43 | bernardo and tomas showed photos - it looks really nice | |
| 18:44 | rangi | @later tell tcohen can i put the schedule up on at http://koha-community.org/koha[…]hacon14/schedule/ if i copy it from eventbase? |
| 18:44 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:44 | talljoy | hmm... i read the map quickly as 'justicia' and thougt for a sec it was in a prison. |
| 18:44 | * talljoy | not sure that was even a real spanish word... |
| 18:46 | talljoy | i clearly need more coffee |
| 18:47 | bag | hmm I'm only finding kohacon13 in my eventbase app |
| 18:47 | is it on there? | |
| 18:47 | rangi | yep |
| 18:48 | bag | what the F am I doing wrong then |
| 18:48 | rangi | or it was |
| 18:48 | cait | hm tomas mentioned it tome yesterday i think |
| 18:48 | talljoy | i don't see it either bag |
| 18:48 | rangi | i was looking at it the other day |
| 18:48 | cait | so i don't think the removed it |
| 18:48 | bag | hmm maybe it's only searching the US for us talljoy |
| 18:49 | talljoy | xenocentric searches -- |
| 18:49 | cait | bag: i tihnk you can leave early the last day... enjoy the sun outside |
| 18:49 | bag | huh? |
| 18:49 | yeah talljoy I only see the kohacon-reno one | |
| 18:49 | cait | nothing... |
| 18:49 | wahanui | somebody said nothing was a requirement, we have guidelines though |
| 18:50 | bag | cait what do you mean? |
| 18:50 | cait | you will see when you figure out the schedule :) |
| 18:50 | bag | oh |
| 18:50 | this is the day I'm looking forward to -- 14,010/12 (Sunday) – Open day / Trip / Asado. | |
| 18:51 | cait | :) |
| 18:51 | me too | |
| 18:51 | rangi | interesting i can see it but i cant search for it |
| 18:51 | cait | i have heard there will be gauchos too! |
| 18:51 | rangi | i wonder what happened |
| 18:51 | bag | 14,0yes gauchos!!! |
| 18:53 | talljoy | gauchos. |
| 18:53 | oh my | |
| 18:53 | rangi | monday is keynote, history, translating the manual, community organisation, fixing stuff without breaking stuff |
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| 18:54 | rangi | tuesday is 3 presentations in spanish about implementations, then bokeh, linked data |
| 18:55 | cait | i think they are going to be translated |
| 18:56 | rangi | wednesday is translations and sql, 3 talks from schools, funding, integrating discovery (dude from ebsco is flying from aussie for this and is staying for hackfest), coral erm, growing the community |
| 18:56 | each day ends with some breakout discussions too | |
| 18:56 | theres a brief summary anyway | |
| 18:56 | talljoy | bag i'm looking at the eventbase online and see international stuff. but don't see kohacon2014. rangi could he have set it to 'hidden' while it was being worked on? |
| 18:57 | rangi | yeah could well be |
| 18:58 | bag | 14,0ASADO!!!! |
| 18:58 | talljoy | lol |
| 18:58 | cait | lol |
| 18:58 | talljoy | i'm trying to acclimate my body to red meat. |
| 19:00 | tcohen | spanish presentations will be translated into english |
| 19:01 | talljoy | hey tcohen |
| 19:03 | cait | hey tcohen :) |
| 19:05 | tcohen | rangi: |
| 19:05 | hey, please look for kohacon14 | |
| 19:05 | on eventbase | |
| 19:05 | rangi | will try again |
| 19:05 | tcohen | anyway, i found it scrolling up to october 6th |
| 19:05 | rangi | nope not searchable |
| 19:06 | but it used to be | |
| 19:06 | tcohen | i contacted the eventbase guys to pay them the premium version, but they didn't answer |
| 19:06 | i've search 'koha' and it shows | |
| 19:07 | rangi | it only shows the 2 kohacon13 ones for me searching |
| 19:07 | even tho i have it in my recent ones, and can view it that way | |
| 19:07 | weird | |
| 19:07 | talljoy | i can only see 2 reno entries. |
| 19:07 | * tcohen | regrets contacting them |
| 19:08 | tcohen | rangi, it now happens to me too |
| 19:08 | rangi | heh |
| 19:08 | proprietary for the lose!! | |
| 19:08 | :) | |
| 19:08 | tcohen | crapietary |
| 19:08 | talljoy | lol |
| 19:09 | bag | 14,0heh |
| 19:09 | * tcohen | was interested in push notifications (premium only) |
| 19:09 | rangi | *nod* |
| 19:09 | would it be ok for me to transcribe the programme onto the koha-community site? | |
| 19:10 | actually on the wiki would be easier | |
| 19:10 | then its easier for people to link in slides etc after they present | |
| 19:10 | tcohen | rangi, please do it |
| 19:11 | bernardo did a png for that | |
| 19:11 | rangi | (im on leave for school holidays, so while the kids watch percy jackson i can do it) |
| 19:11 | cait | heh |
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| 19:13 | rangi | altho atarau just said "this is a crummy movie" i dunno where he gets his vocab from |
| 19:13 | talljoy | heh |
| 19:14 | cait | :) |
| 19:28 | argentina! :) | |
| 19:29 | talljoy | si |
| 19:37 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohacon14/Schedule |
| 19:37 | wip still | |
| 19:37 | tcohen | rangi++ |
| 19:37 | cait | rangi++ |
| 19:39 | i added a category to make the nav come back - not sure how to add a kohacon14 one | |
| 19:40 | talljoy | is it just 9 to noon each day? |
| 19:40 | sweet | |
| 19:40 | tcohen | 9~17 |
| 19:41 | at 19 we still have sunlight ;) | |
| 19:41 | talljoy | ack |
| 19:41 | cait | ah |
| 19:41 | so what's the afternoon program? | |
| 19:41 | workshops? | |
| 19:41 | tcohen | presentations |
| 19:41 | wahanui | presentations are recorded, so there are links to the video |
| 19:41 | cait | oh |
| 19:41 | tcohen | 14~15:30 |
| 19:42 | cait | so rangi is probably not done yet :) |
| 19:42 | talljoy | we are so impatient, eh cait? |
| 19:42 | cait | yeah :) |
| 19:43 | tcohen | http://snag.gy/51cA7.jpg |
| 19:43 | talljoy | snazzy! |
| 19:44 | tcohen | during breakout discussions, mostly in spanish, you *might* be interviewed outside |
| 19:44 | :-P | |
| 19:46 | rangi | if anyone just edited it |
| 19:46 | i just blew away your changes | |
| 19:46 | as i was still working on it (wip like i said :)) | |
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| 19:47 | rangi | so you will have to remake your change cait |
| 19:47 | cait | done |
| 19:47 | :) | |
| 19:51 | tcohen | byeeee |
| 19:51 | rangi | cya tcohen |
| 19:52 | * tcohen | hopes eventbase goes online |
| 19:55 | rangi | ok gotta go entertain kids bbl |
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| 20:41 | barton | afternoon, #koha! |
| 20:44 | I've got a question about the 'AllowOnShelfHolds' syspref ... it appears that if *any* item is checked out, it will be possible to place a hold ... is this how the syspref was designed, or is this a bug? | |
| 20:46 | cait | barton: it's the current behaviour |
| 20:46 | barton | Furthermore, the perldoc has the logic backwards... |
| 20:46 | cait | barton: not strictly a bug, as it has never worked differently |
| 20:46 | barton | Whether or not the item is currently on loan is also checked - if the AllowOnShelfHolds system preference is ON, an item can be requested even if |
| 20:46 | it is currently on loan to somebody else. If the system preference is OFF, an item that is currently checked out cannot be the target of an item- | |
| 20:46 | level hold request. | |
| 20:47 | cait | yeah it's available |
| 20:47 | not checked out | |
| 20:47 | if it's available you can't put an item level hold on it | |
| 20:47 | there are bugs abut changing the behaviour | |
| 20:47 | but i think enh | |
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| 20:50 | barton | cait: enh? |
| 20:50 | wahanui | enh is enhancement and explained at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
| 20:50 | barton | aha. |
| 20:56 | cait | bug 6837 |
| 20:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6837 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barry, Failed QA , When AllowOnShelfHolds is OFF then holds on records with available items should not be possible |
| 20:58 | talljoy | i see kohacon14 in eventbase |
| 20:58 | bag ^^ | |
| 21:00 | @later tell tcohen eventbase shows kohacon2014 now! thanks! | |
| 21:00 | huginn | talljoy: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:17 | eythian | hi |
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| 23:13 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
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| 23:45 | tcohen | hi |
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