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| 00:41 | oleonard joined #koha | |
| 00:42 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 00:44 | dcook | Heya oleonard! |
| 00:44 | wahanui | oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
| 00:44 | dcook | How goes it? |
| 00:44 | oleonard | I thought I'd stop by and see what kind of fun happens when I'm not usually around |
| 00:45 | tgoat joined #koha | |
| 00:46 | tgoat left #koha | |
| 00:49 | oleonard | Obviously the answer is: Lots :P |
| 00:49 | dcook | Haha |
| 00:49 | It depends! | |
| 00:49 | It's been fairly quiet this past week or two I think | |
| 00:49 | But we have heaps of fun when you're not around sometimes :p | |
| 00:49 | I think one of my favourite times is probably in... | |
| 00:49 | Another 4-5 hours though, so you'll probably be asleep | |
| 00:50 | I think 4-5 hours is when the Europeans wake up. Always nice to see them :) | |
| 00:50 | Maybe folks are reading koha-devel like me atm | |
| 00:51 | oleonard | Yeah I never get to see the Europeans when they're bright-eyed and fresh ;) |
| 00:52 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:53 | I think I usually only see the west coast Americans :p | |
| 00:53 | Although not quite when they're bright-eyed | |
| 00:53 | Usually a bit more sleepy | |
| 00:55 | eythian | hi oleonard |
| 00:55 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 00:55 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (12:30 PM NZST on September 12, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 00:55 | eythian | 17° is good, hopefully that's boding for a nice weekend. |
| 00:56 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 00:56 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 16.5°C (8:55 PM EDT on September 11, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 00:58 | wizzyrea | omgooses it's an oleonard |
| 00:59 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea! |
| 00:59 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 00:59 | hi! | |
| 00:59 | how's stuff? | |
| 00:59 | oleonard | Stuff is good |
| 01:01 | My schedule is a little different these days so I'm usually out of IRC before any of you guys are online | |
| 01:01 | I miss having at least a little bit of overlap :) | |
| 01:32 | dcook | Overlap is good :) |
| 01:32 | @wunder syd | |
| 01:32 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (11:00 AM EST on September 12, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:32 | dcook | The weather out here is weird these days.. |
| 01:40 | wizzyrea | yeah I like overlap too, I miss the witty banter. |
| 01:42 | oleonard | What are you working on these days wizzyrea? |
| 01:49 | Oh well I'll have to take my answer off the air. Bye everyone, see you Monday. | |
| 02:01 | wizzyrea | doh! |
| 02:03 | * wizzyrea | turns on notifications for the koha channel |
| 02:03 | wizzyrea | people I never talk to turning up all over the place, don't want to miss it! |
| 02:05 | dcook | ^ |
| 02:05 | I'll try to monologue less, wizzyea, so I don't inundate you with notifications ;) | |
| 02:06 | * dcook | should have a #dcook channel.. |
| 02:14 | wizzyrea | hehe naw don't worry |
| 02:15 | notification means "turn the title of the channel green" | |
| 02:15 | ^.^ | |
| 02:15 | not like, growl notifications | |
| 02:16 | eythian | http://i.imgur.com/x0leAIb.png <-- what one of our sites looks like on a newsletter day. |
| 02:16 | http://i.imgur.com/A4nMHmxl.jpg <-- and its user distribution | |
| 02:18 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 02:18 | dcook | That's cool :) |
| 02:18 | wizzyrea | nice to see it getting some use |
| 02:23 | cait joined #koha | |
| 02:23 | cait left #koha | |
| 02:28 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKy7Q50tJ84 <-- cool as hell |
| 02:30 | wizzyrea | oh man that looks amazing |
| 02:32 | rangi | now i need to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ftLAcOKl8 again |
| 02:33 | ibeardslee | saw a shorter trailer to that when I saw The Dark Horse |
| 02:33 | eythian | yeah, I think I've seen a teaser. |
| 02:34 | * wizzyrea | is jealous of people who get to see adult movies in the theatre |
| 02:34 | rangi | yeah now the have the full one, the 1st one had no talking .. most people didnt realise its the first full length film in te reo |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | which is SO cool |
| 02:35 | rangi | yep |
| 02:35 | wizzyrea | not "adult" movies, but movies for grownups. |
| 02:35 | crap. | |
| 02:35 | you know what I mean. | |
| 02:35 | or maybe you don't | |
| 02:35 | rangi | heh |
| 02:36 | eythian | yeah wizzyrea. we know exactly what you meant :D |
| 02:36 | wizzyrea | *sobs* |
| 02:37 | http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr[…]1qf55vho1_500.gif | |
| 02:40 | rangi | wizzyrea: the 'dead' guy in it is lurtz from lotr |
| 02:40 | wizzyrea | I thought he looked familiar (that's not a joke.) |
| 02:41 | or as spud would call him, "the growly sister" | |
| 02:41 | (I don't even know) | |
| 02:43 | rangi | heh |
| 02:43 | atarau used to call gollum colin | |
| 02:43 | theres colin | |
| 02:45 | cait1 joined #koha | |
| 02:48 | eythian | hi cait1. Go back to bed. |
| 02:48 | No really, it's way early. | |
| 02:48 | cait1 | k |
| 02:48 | cait1 left #koha | |
| 02:49 | eythian | http://cdn.diply.com/img/1be49[…]-0c0a298b06ad.jpg |
| 02:50 | rangi | heh |
| 02:50 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 02:50 | eythian++ that was awesome | |
| 02:51 | dcook | lol |
| 02:53 | wizzyrea | spud is deathly afraid of gollum |
| 02:54 | it's because of his questionable motives. | |
| 02:54 | or ambiguous morality | |
| 02:54 | eythian | http://www.crisisoninfinitemid[…]ter_sdcc_2012.jpg <-- you should put that up in his bedroom |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | you are evil. |
| 02:55 | dcook | spud sounds like a reaosnable person |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | I like it. |
| 02:55 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | no seriously he'd never enter his room again. |
| 02:55 | maybe I'll put it up in *my* room. | |
| 02:55 | eythian | heh |
| 03:04 | edveal joined #koha | |
| 03:24 | eythian | http://madddscience.tumblr.com[…]on-teacher-in-the |
| 03:24 | wahanui: is it beer o'clock yet? | |
| 03:24 | I feel like taking your silence as a yes. | |
| 03:25 | wizzyrea | it definitely feels like it ought to be. |
| 03:25 | dcook | Mmm beer |
| 03:25 | eythian: I took your advice and got a case this last time :p | |
| 03:25 | Still seemed to disappear just as fast though... | |
| 03:26 | eythian | heh |
| 03:26 | dcook | No room for two cases though... maybe I need two fridges... |
| 03:26 | eythian | they don't have to all be there at the same time, you know. |
| 03:28 | dcook | True. I suppose I could always start re-filling the fridge when I get down to the last 12 or so |
| 03:29 | Don't want to run out and have to resort to warm beer though | |
| 03:30 | pianohacker joined #koha | |
| 03:34 | dcook | CSS media queries ftw |
| 03:34 | yo pianohacker | |
| 03:34 | pianohacker | hi dcook |
| 03:35 | dcook | how's it going? |
| 03:37 | pianohacker | good, long long day but life is good |
| 03:37 | yours? | |
| 03:37 | wahanui | yours is better actually |
| 03:37 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:38 | Glad life is good | |
| 03:38 | Things are going well on the visa front | |
| 03:38 | Heading to Europe in a few weeks | |
| 03:38 | pianohacker | woo! |
| 03:38 | dcook | Few downs but overall it's awesome :) |
| 03:38 | Are you going to Kohacon14? | |
| 03:38 | pianohacker | very glad to hear, especially the silly visa... |
| 03:39 | I don't think so, between school and the travel expense | |
| 03:41 | dcook | Yeah, I'll be stoked to get my permanent residence. Hopefully end of this year or more likely start of next year. |
| 03:41 | It'll be a huge relief | |
| 03:41 | Yeah, I hear that. It's pricy :/ | |
| 03:42 | pianohacker | yeah... what's your current situation? |
| 03:42 | wizzyrea | ^ 2nd that |
| 03:42 | dcook | wizzyrea: yarp |
| 03:42 | pianohacker: I'm on a work visa until mid 2016 atm | |
| 03:42 | But PR would mean I could stay forevaz | |
| 03:42 | pianohacker | okay, so there's time, but PR is far better |
| 03:42 | dcook | And have Medicare :D |
| 03:42 | Yeah, there's time. So it's not a huge rush. | |
| 03:43 | Will look forward to being treated a bit more like a regular person. | |
| 03:43 | pianohacker | oh, that's excellent |
| 03:43 | dcook | Although the Australian medicare system is still weird |
| 03:43 | It's like... Canada and America smooshed together | |
| 03:43 | Confusing as :S | |
| 03:43 | pianohacker | that could be fantastic or just terribad |
| 03:43 | smooshed how? | |
| 03:44 | dcook | I often think it's terribad |
| 03:44 | They have public hospitals and private hospitals | |
| 03:45 | Public hospitals are typically free, and private hospitals are definitely not free | |
| 03:45 | But even in public hospitals... you can do things privately | |
| 03:45 | Which means that you can opt to pay for public services (the idea being that your private insurance will cover the cost) | |
| 03:45 | pianohacker | ... why would you do that? availability of services, waiting time? |
| 03:45 | wizzyrea | usually doing it privately can expedite the process |
| 03:46 | dcook | Yeah, private hospitals in theory have specialists and are theoretically faster |
| 03:46 | Paying for public services... no reason to do it except to contribute extra to the public system | |
| 03:46 | eythian | it's possible that it allows for extra things that aren't covered by the subsidisation |
| 03:47 | dcook | Mmm that too |
| 03:47 | Like you can sometimes get a private room | |
| 03:47 | wizzyrea | that's true. |
| 03:47 | dcook | Private hospitals are scary though |
| 03:47 | I had a friend go in who had private cover | |
| 03:47 | But there was complications and now they have massive bills :S | |
| 03:47 | * dcook | is used to Canada where you flash your health care card and that's it |
| 03:48 | * wizzyrea | is used to america where a massive bill is the norm |
| 03:48 | wizzyrea | nz seems to about split it |
| 03:48 | rangi | here you can go private |
| 03:48 | wizzyrea | *seems* - my experience is extremely limited. |
| 03:48 | rangi | if its elective, or non life threatening |
| 03:48 | and you want to jump the queue | |
| 03:49 | pianohacker | how long is the queue generally? |
| 03:49 | rangi | depends |
| 03:49 | hernia can be quite long | |
| 03:49 | pianohacker | that seems like something they'd want to expedite... |
| 03:49 | rangi | like 4 months or so |
| 03:49 | well you dont die from a hernia | |
| 03:49 | it just hurts | |
| 03:50 | dcook | Yeah, wait times are the thing I usually hear about in regards to public |
| 03:50 | wizzyrea | you'd probably get decent drugs in the meantime though |
| 03:50 | for pretty cheap. | |
| 03:50 | rangi | orthapaedic (hip replacements etc) are the other ones that are sometimes long |
| 03:50 | for free | |
| 03:50 | dcook | I've never been sick or injured, so I have no personal experience (maybe I'm like Bruce Willis from Unbreakable) |
| 03:50 | rangi | pharmac is good like that |
| 03:50 | dcook | My family seem OK with the wait times though. They've almost always been shorter than estimated. |
| 03:50 | But that's also Saskatchewan... not BC or Ontario | |
| 03:51 | rangi | when i got my artrial fibralation i had a hospital ride, an over night state, and cardioversion |
| 03:51 | cost me 0$ | |
| 03:51 | dcook | yay, rangi! |
| 03:51 | eythian | and then probably $5 for prescriptions :) |
| 03:51 | rangi | laurel was saying in ny it would have been $1000 for the ambulance ride alone |
| 03:51 | yep $5 for 3 months of meds | |
| 03:51 | pianohacker | *sigh* as a college student with two surgeries in the past year (for hearing stuff), this is like talking about tuition with the french |
| 03:51 | eythian | it's ~$80 in Dunedin |
| 03:51 | pianohacker | just makes me sad |
| 03:51 | wizzyrea | spud went into the emergency room for a weird feeling after hours viral thing - $0 |
| 03:51 | eythian | (for the ambulance) |
| 03:52 | rangi | thats why i gave the wellington free ambulance $40 today on their appeal day |
| 03:52 | wizzyrea | walking into the US on our former insurance plan cost $100, and that's before any treatment at all. |
| 03:52 | into the ER, in the US | |
| 03:52 | pianohacker | then you had really good insurance! |
| 03:53 | wizzyrea | well, then you'd get a bill for the insurance covered actual treatment |
| 03:53 | after the fact | |
| 03:53 | which could be quite outrageous. | |
| 03:53 | pianohacker | yup... |
| 03:53 | wizzyrea | $500 for xrays, for example. |
| 03:53 | anyway, quite a bit different to that here | |
| 03:53 | * wizzyrea | is always ready to pay whatever they ask |
| 03:54 | wizzyrea | but it's rarely much if any. |
| 03:54 | dcook | Yeah, my visit to the doctor on a Sunday was $85. They gave me a script for antibiotics and sent me away. |
| 03:54 | Most of the time was spent with them talking about their own immigration history :/ | |
| 03:54 | pianohacker: That sucks about the surgeries :( | |
| 03:54 | I figure if Australian tuition goes crazy, my kids can move back to Canada where it's better | |
| 03:55 | Quebec tuition is rather good. Not as good as a lot of Europe, but still good. | |
| 03:55 | pianohacker | the first one was great, it's what got me my implant, this one last thursday to fix a complication with that was less exciting |
| 03:55 | dcook | About $2500 for a year of uni |
| 03:55 | pianohacker: Sounds expensive :( | |
| 03:55 | pianohacker | American tuition isn't just expensive, it's goddamn bizarre |
| 03:55 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 03:55 | pianohacker | oh yeah. worth every penny to get hearing but still expensive |
| 03:55 | dcook | Yeah, I went to uni with a girl who had like... $100,000 of debt from a BA in the US :S |
| 03:55 | wizzyrea | I feel fortunate to have gotten through just before it all went crazy bonkers |
| 03:56 | dcook | pianohacker: Glad it was worth it :) |
| 03:56 | pianohacker | but anyway yeah. As an undergrad, your parent's income is counted when you are awarded need-based financial aid (including even just _federal loans_) in a way that assumes your parents are putting a very significant amount of their earnings into your tuition |
| 03:57 | this persists until you are 25 | |
| 03:57 | * rangi | goes for beer |
| 03:57 | pianohacker | the _second_ you become a grad student, though, this stops happening, and your aid reflects your own income only... |
| 04:02 | wizzyrea | to your benefit or detriment? |
| 04:02 | dcook | That does sound bizarre |
| 04:04 | pianohacker | to my benefit, massively; I used to not even get enough federal loans to cover tuition, and now I get loans plus grant |
| 04:04 | *grants | |
| 04:14 | dcook | Money money money :D |
| 04:16 | pianohacker | it's a high-stakes way to learn personal finance... |
| 04:17 | dcook | Yeah, no doubt... |
| 04:18 | I think I was quite fortunate with the Canadian medical and educational systems | |
| 04:18 | Well, high school was dull. Would've loved advanced courses, but you can't win them all :p. | |
| 04:19 | pianohacker | I think high school is dull for most? |
| 04:23 | dcook | Well, I think lots of people have a miserable high school existence, so I'm fairly pleased overall |
| 04:23 | pianohacker | I like a lot of things about America, but there's a lot of things that have demonstrably failed as private institutions that we stubbornly hold on to |
| 04:23 | dcook: true! dull is better than soul crushing | |
| 04:23 | dcook | :) |
| 04:24 | Yeah, as a non-American, it's a weird position to be in | |
| 04:24 | I like lots of Americans. America also has a lot of rad things in it. | |
| 04:24 | But some of the other things are just baffling :S. | |
| 04:24 | pianohacker | yeah... |
| 04:24 | dcook | Mind you, other countries are like that too. Just not as much in the media's attention. |
| 04:25 | I probably know more about American celebrities than I do Australian celebrities, and I live in Australia. | |
| 04:25 | I don't even watch TV! | |
| 04:25 | Free uni and free healthcare would be great though... | |
| 04:25 | Free transport. I'm coming around to the idea of free PT. | |
| 04:26 | pianohacker | we're the sexy alluring lady/gent with deeeeep mental issues... |
| 04:26 | dcook | Could probably say that about Australia too :p |
| 04:26 | As for Canada, I like to think our issues are fairly superficial and located in Ontario :p | |
| 04:27 | * dcook | forgets sometimes that he hasn't lived in Canada regularly for a few years now |
| 04:28 | pianohacker | heh. What is ontario like? My only experience of Canada as of yet is Montreal, which, well |
| 04:28 | dcook | Norway only has 5 million people. Maybe we should all go and boost their population... |
| 04:28 | How was Montreal? | |
| 04:28 | * wizzyrea | waves from NZ |
| 04:28 | * dcook | really needs to visit NZ... |
| 04:28 | pianohacker | aaaaaanyway |
| 04:29 | montreal was fun, but you can tell just how hard the french canadians are trying to prove that they're french | |
| 04:29 | dcook | Ontario is all right. Just the politicians have issues. |
| 04:29 | Mmm | |
| 04:29 | Yeah, that's a bit of a thing sometimes | |
| 04:29 | wizzyrea | right, was gonna say about montreal - it's french. |
| 04:29 | dcook | Ah, but it's not. It's Quebecois. |
| 04:30 | * dcook | would use the correct diacritics and stuff but Hexchat and keyboard shortcuts don't play nicely |
| 04:30 | pianohacker | the street grid alone, dear _lord_ |
| 04:30 | wizzyrea | I was 12 when I was there, all I remember is the quebecois thing, and BLT's, and traffic. |
| 04:30 | dcook | Québeçois* |
| 04:30 | There we go :) | |
| 04:30 | Hmm, I can't recall the traffic | |
| 04:30 | Street grid? | |
| 04:30 | I mostly remember poutine. | |
| 04:30 | wizzyrea | or lack thereof |
| 04:30 | pianohacker | ^ |
| 04:31 | wizzyrea | man, I hated fries when I was a kid, but I'd be all about poutine now. |
| 04:31 | dcook | And that many people asking for money in subways spoke impeccable English and French |
| 04:31 | O_O | |
| 04:31 | You hated fries as a kid? | |
| 04:31 | * dcook | wonders if Liz might be an alien |
| 04:31 | pianohacker | in _kansas_? |
| 04:31 | wizzyrea | I did, yes |
| 04:31 | dcook | Well, I hated cheese as a kid. |
| 04:31 | So that's fair | |
| 04:31 | wizzyrea | it just wasn't a thing |
| 04:31 | pianohacker | interesting... |
| 04:31 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 04:31 | wizzyrea | I wasn't crazy about fries |
| 04:31 | * dcook | also hated mushrooms... until he had fresh mushrooms |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | I also hated onions and peppers. |
| 04:32 | * pianohacker | was also converted to tomatoes by fresh tomatoes |
| 04:32 | dcook | Mmm same |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | capsicums |
| 04:32 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:32 | pianohacker | now I could eat them by the bushel |
| 04:32 | dcook | I was just about to ask if they were capsicums |
| 04:32 | Mmm, pianohacker, yes! | |
| 04:32 | Same | |
| 04:32 | Turns out fresh food really is awesome. | |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | i've always liked tomatoes |
| 04:32 | dcook | And trying to make websites conform to bad designs is not awesome |
| 04:32 | * dcook | glares at his browser |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | :( |
| 04:32 | that is not awesome. | |
| 04:33 | pianohacker | The second I have a yard there'll be tomato plants all over it |
| 04:33 | wizzyrea | oh, check out our new pretty koha: http://ihc.mykoha.co.nz |
| 04:33 | it's piiink | |
| 04:33 | pianohacker | ooh very nice. bootstrap? |
| 04:33 | wizzyrea | yarp |
| 04:33 | pianohacker | sweet |
| 04:34 | wizzyrea | you'll be happy to know that we also have a library using the overdrive integration :) |
| 04:34 | pretty exciting | |
| 04:34 | dcook | pretty! |
| 04:34 | Now I want bubblegum.. | |
| 04:35 | Has anyone tried to force their bootstrap Koha to be a fixed width? :( | |
| 04:35 | pianohacker | glad to hear. That code can be a bit frustrating to work with due to the way overdrive manages their API, but it seems to be of value to a lot of people |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea | hm I think so |
| 04:35 | http://hewitson.mykoha.co.nz | |
| 04:36 | dcook | Actually, it does work all right in Koha |
| 04:36 | I'm just having issues with DSpace's bootstrap template now.. | |
| 04:36 | wizzyrea | ah well yeah that'll be different |
| 04:36 | dcook | Mmm, nice one with the media query for the image on that fixed with one, wizzyrea |
| 04:36 | I did that with another DSpace and it worked quite nicely | |
| 04:36 | * dcook | just likes saying "media query" |
| 04:36 | * wizzyrea | points to our design team |
| 04:37 | dcook | Nice one, design team! |
| 04:37 | wizzyrea | i can't take credit for that, but they are ace at their jobs. |
| 04:38 | http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukeba[…]rm=4ldqpgp#81hsz0 this is totally snerkworthy | |
| 04:39 | blargh timesheets I almost forgot | |
| 04:40 | dcook | Almost beer o'clock for you folk! |
| 04:40 | wizzyrea | yeah it is, I'm skipping it today though |
| 04:41 | pianohacker | I feel so terrible for laughing at the one about the girl going to college |
| 04:42 | dcook | D'oh |
| 04:42 | It helps when you remember to add the original style that would've cascaded down to fix the problem you can't seem to fix.. | |
| 04:43 | pianohacker: hehe | |
| 04:44 | I guess it's a good thing my grandma isn't on FB | |
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| 05:01 | pianohacker | good night all |
| 05:32 | cait joined #koha | |
| 05:35 | cait | lol |
| 05:36 | dcook | ? |
| 05:36 | hi cait :) | |
| 05:36 | cait | http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]s-very-early-pops |
| 05:36 | sounds slightly familiar | |
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| 06:01 | cait | interesting discussions while i was sleeping :) |
| 06:01 | and glad again to live in germany with our health care system | |
| 06:11 | dcook | hehe |
| 06:11 | I don't know too much about it. Is it all public? | |
| 06:11 | cait | you can also get private insurance here too |
| 06:12 | but i'd say the normal case is you have public | |
| 06:12 | flashing your card and not paying when you go to a doctor | |
| 06:12 | just a small amount for a prescription, similar to nz maybe? | |
| 06:13 | dcook | Does that mean there are private hospitals as well? |
| 06:13 | You can get private insurance in Canada, but I think it's mostly for things like dental and optical | |
| 06:13 | cait | hm i could imagine there are for some things, specialized |
| 06:14 | but i have never run into one knowingly | |
| 06:14 | dcook | Hmm, sounds similar to Canada then |
| 06:14 | cait | it's not something i have thought about a lot - if you are sick you go to the ER or to a doctor |
| 06:14 | dcook | Yeah, that's how I grew up too :) |
| 06:14 | cait | there are doctors who only take patients with private insurance tho |
| 06:15 | dcook | Interesting |
| 06:15 | wahanui | Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 06:15 | dcook | I think there are private practices back home as well, at least when it comes to psych I think |
| 06:15 | * dcook | glances at koha-devel |
| 06:15 | dcook | Nothing new there since this morning.. |
| 06:15 | cait | probably a timezone thing |
| 06:15 | and it's friday :) | |
| 06:16 | dcook | Friday! |
| 06:17 | I'm working on a buddhist library right now, so I'm quite relaxed... | |
| 06:17 | ;) | |
| 06:17 | cait | nice :) |
| 06:17 | not sure what i will be working on today | |
| 06:17 | i started to update the marc frameowrks in our installations... | |
| 06:18 | rda fields etc | |
| 06:18 | dcook | \o/ |
| 06:18 | That's awesome | |
| 06:18 | cait | lol |
| 06:18 | really? | |
| 06:18 | dcook | Well, I think so :p |
| 06:18 | I think it's really important to have up-to-date frameworks :) | |
| 06:18 | cait | :) |
| 06:18 | yeah it is for us even more | |
| 06:18 | dcook | Especially as the consequences of having old frameworks isn't always readily apparent to libraries |
| 06:18 | cait | because cataloguing is done in the union catalog software mostly |
| 06:19 | dcook | Mmm, righto! |
| 06:19 | cait | and you don't notice when a field/subfield is missing in koha |
| 06:20 | dcook | Exactly |
| 06:20 | I used the XML that bgkriegel uploaded. Loaded the XML into a hash, iterated through the frameworks, and did a insert ignore | |
| 06:20 | With a... "on duplicate" as well | |
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| 06:21 | dcook | So I could update the "repeatable" attribute for existing rows |
| 06:21 | yo indradg | |
| 06:21 | indradg | hi dcook |
| 06:21 | dcook | Of course, now that all of our libraries have updated frameworks, the impetus for building a more sustainable mechanism has flagged a bit... |
| 06:22 | * indradg | is still so sleepy that drinking the first cup of tea looks like a tough chore! :-( |
| 06:22 | dcook | :( |
| 06:25 | eythian | @later tell tcohen I've fixed the Test::Simple thing, but now I have this: http://paste.koha-community.org/203 -- I'll hold you responsible even though it's probably not your fault :D |
| 06:25 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:25 | dcook | Oh nose |
| 06:25 | * dcook | was thinking about the whole subtest issue recently... |
| 06:26 | eythian | dcook: I'm just making a newer version of test::simple a dependency |
| 06:26 | I had trouble specifying that in the build-depends, but have it sorted now. | |
| 06:27 | dcook | \o/ |
| 06:27 | eythian | now I have to go get a bus |
| 06:27 | later | |
| 06:30 | ashimema | morning all |
| 06:30 | cait | dcook: i am doing it with sql probably :) |
| 06:30 | morning ashimema | |
| 06:31 | dcook | cait: I did it with SQL as well :) |
| 06:32 | Well, SQL in Perl.. | |
| 06:32 | later eythian | |
| 06:32 | morning ashimema | |
| 06:32 | ashimema | just reading your dbic email dcook. |
| 06:34 | dcook | Mmm, I sure write a lot. |
| 06:35 | Perhaps I should change my middle name to Opinionated | |
| 06:35 | :P | |
| 06:35 | cait | that would make your initials doc than, right? :) |
| 06:35 | dcook | Oooo it would! |
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| 06:35 | dcook | I think that's a great idea |
| 06:35 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:35 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
| 06:35 | dcook | salut reiveune |
| 06:36 | reiveune | salut dcook |
| 06:43 | cait | hi reiveune |
| 06:43 | bbia | |
| 06:43 | b | |
| 06:43 | reiveune | \o/ cait |
| 06:43 | dcook | Have to love when you're trying to match backgrounds but your reference site has a different hierarchy of containers.. |
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| 06:46 | dcook | Hmm, I can do this.. |
| 06:48 | Muahaha | |
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| 06:52 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:52 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
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| 06:54 | fridolin | hie all |
| 06:54 | ashimema | I've got totally lost on the dbic debate now.. |
| 06:55 | Think I'll grab ColinC today for a chat.. We seem to use dbic in a really odd way in koha. | |
| 06:55 | anywho.. breakfast time | |
| 07:00 | fridolin | breakfast ;) a good one |
| 07:13 | Joubu | Good morning |
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| 07:15 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:16 | dcook | greetings France folk :) |
| 07:16 | * dcook | really needs to get better at leaving the office on time, especially on Fridays... |
| 07:19 | dcook | All right. Leaving! |
| 07:20 | Have a good Friday/weekend all | |
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| 08:32 | * cait | waves |
| 09:01 | ashimema | hey cait |
| 09:03 | cait | hi cait |
| 09:03 | um | |
| 09:03 | hi ashimema | |
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| 10:47 | ashimema | Anyone added cronjobs to a package install? |
| 10:47 | cait | not specific to one instance :( |
| 10:47 | ashimema | I'm getting confused.. |
| 10:47 | :( | |
| 10:48 | I thought adding a /etc/cron.d/koha-instance file with a bunch of jobs would do the trick.. | |
| 10:48 | but it never seems to get executed.. | |
| 10:48 | I'm baffleds | |
| 10:48 | cait | hm |
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| 10:48 | cait | could it be permissions or something like that? |
| 10:51 | pastebot | "nic" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "library" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/204 |
| 10:51 | "nic" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "library" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/205 | |
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| 11:24 | agbolo | hello guyz |
| 11:24 | i am blocked | |
| 11:25 | i did a make and i had these warning messages | |
| 11:25 | _koha DOC_DIR=/usr/local/info perl Makefile.PL If installing on a Win32 platform, be sure to use: 'dmake -x MAXLINELENGTH=300000' Warning: prerequisite AnyEvent::HTTP 2.13 not found. Warning: prerequisite Archive::Extract 0.60 not found. We have 0.34. Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04 not found. Warning: prerequisite Data::Paginator 0.04 not found. Warning: prerequisite Gravatar::URL 1.03 not found. We have 1.02. Warning: prerequisi | |
| 11:26 | please wbat does it mean? | |
| 11:27 | must i install all the prerequisites been reported as warning messages? | |
| 11:32 | anybody home? | |
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| 11:33 | agbolo | pls help |
| 11:39 | anybody available | |
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| 13:09 | cait | ah, no oleonard |
| 13:09 | :( | |
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| 13:48 | tcohen | hi |
| 13:48 | wahanui | salut, tcohen |
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| 14:02 | kivilahtio | where do I put unit test for the new Koha:: namespace? |
| 14:02 | mainly Koha::Reserves.pm ? | |
| 14:03 | they are db_dependent tests :) | |
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| 14:19 | cait | not sure kivilahtio, tcohen? |
| 14:19 | tcohen | there's no consensus |
| 14:19 | id put that on t/db_dependent/Koha/Reserves.t | |
| 14:19 | cait | sounds good to me |
| 14:20 | tcohen | some prefer t/db_dependent/Koha_Reserves.t |
| 14:20 | (i don't) | |
| 14:21 | if you're focusing on a specific sub from Koha::Reserves and are writing several tests, use a subtest definition | |
| 14:21 | or even t/db_dependent/Koha/Reserves_specific_sub.t | |
| 14:25 | cait | nice |
| 14:25 | i wonder | |
| 14:25 | we don't have a koha:reserves yet, do we? | |
| 14:25 | kivilahtio: what are you up to? :) | |
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| 14:28 | kivilahtio | cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12353 |
| 14:28 | huginn | 04Bug 12353: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Reserves last pickup date needs to respect holidays, and everybody need to know the last pickup date for reserves, even notices. |
| 14:28 | kivilahtio | cait: we are finally upgrading our production to 3.16.3 |
| 14:28 | cait | hm |
| 14:28 | i think there is a bug for that | |
| 14:28 | it might be duplicate | |
| 14:28 | kivilahtio | cat this weekend. |
| 14:28 | cait | i think i'd wait for 3.16.4 |
| 14:28 | kivilahtio | we wont |
| 14:28 | cait | or look at the bugs in bugzilla with candidate 3.16.4 as keyword |
| 14:28 | kivilahtio | we can upgrade again |
| 14:29 | cait | there are some that you might want to pick |
| 14:29 | if you really want to update - like a follow up for ajax so the holds dispaly correctly | |
| 14:29 | kivilahtio | cait: already got that |
| 14:29 | cait | ok :) |
| 14:29 | kivilahtio | cait: but there might be more fixes that need doing |
| 14:30 | cait: how do I make that candidate search? | |
| 14:30 | cait | if you look atht eholds bug, it has a keyword, try searching for that |
| 14:30 | i am looking for the holds/holidays one | |
| 14:31 | bug 8735 | |
| 14:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Expire holds waiting only on days the library is open |
| 14:32 | cait | initial commitmonster? :D |
| 14:32 | i am all for displaying it, but I am not sure if you ahd kyle's patch already | |
| 14:33 | kivilahtio | cait: had I known, paxed made this patch months ago and now it broke (it has kinda always been broken) when migratiing to 3.16.3 |
| 14:33 | cait | kyle's path took a while to get in |
| 14:33 | i remember because i tested it | |
| 14:33 | kivilahtio | cait: I think Kyle's patch is as good as ours |
| 14:34 | cait: Too bad I need to start working on other issues and worry about that later | |
| 14:34 | cait | if you coudl take a look that would be great, i think it might be missing some aspects about showing the pickup date |
| 14:34 | kivilahtio | cait: I can provide a followup after we have migrated to 3.16.3 |
| 14:34 | cait | there has also been a patch pushed recently for formatting the dates in the notices according to the pref |
| 14:34 | cool | |
| 14:34 | i will put a seealso | |
| 14:34 | kivilahtio | if I remember, but prolly a shitstorm will hit us after the migration :) |
| 14:35 | cait | i think you have quite a few customizations still |
| 14:35 | i will keep my figners crossed for you :) | |
| 14:35 | kivilahtio | we do |
| 14:35 | rhanks | |
| 14:39 | cait: our feature is completely different, we just skip holidays, so i just got an item waiting for me, then weekends are holidaytime and with 6 day time to pick waiting holds, my expiration is bumbed up by two weekends | |
| 14:39 | cait | ah |
| 14:39 | what does kyle do? skip to the next possible opening day? | |
| 14:39 | kivilahtio | cait: not completely different, but we get extra day added for each holiday, I think it makes no difference really |
| 14:39 | cait | might need a pref then, we have one for calculating due dates |
| 14:40 | kivilahtio | cait: looks like it |
| 14:40 | wahanui | Can we get some hard data on that? |
| 14:40 | cait | shh wahanui |
| 14:40 | wahanui | I'M EXCERCISING MY ROBOT RIGHT TO FREE DATA TRANSMISSION |
| 14:40 | cait | lol |
| 14:40 | kivilahtio | whanui is getting smarter by the day |
| 14:40 | wahanui is getting smarter by the day | |
| 14:40 | cait | yeah, he will outsmart us all soon |
| 14:40 | kivilahtio | i think so |
| 14:40 | cait | wahanui? |
| 14:40 | wahanui | yes, cait? |
| 14:51 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 15:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:05 | fridolin | bye |
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| 15:12 | tcohen | Joubu: i'll give those problems with patron import a ride next week |
| 15:12 | i'm out of town today and the rest of the weekend | |
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| 18:01 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 18:12 | abcgh | SOS |
| 18:12 | PLEASE CAN ANYBODY HEKP ME ON THIS | |
| 18:12 | PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 KOHA_CONF=blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/00-checkdatabase-version.t ........ ok t/00-deprecated.t ................... ok t/00-load.t ......................... 2/? Subroutine main::GetContract redefined at /usr/share/perl/5.10/Test/More.pm line 805 Too late to run INIT block at /home/koha/Downloads/koha-3.16.03/blib/PERL_MODULE_D | |
| 18:12 | ANY HELP ON THE ABOVE | |
| 18:15 | SOS HELP PLEASE | |
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| 18:24 | abcgh | PLS CAN ANYBODY HELP |
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| 19:55 | WNickC | Hi all |
| 19:55 | does anyone know if there is a list of which notices can be customised by branch and which cannot? | |
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