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00:23 | tcohen | cr*py router + ultrabook wifi board = problems |
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00:43 | dcook | @seen khall |
00:43 | huginn | dcook: khall was last seen in #koha 11 hours, 57 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <khall> if you want to write it, I'll so it! I think the code is much fresher in your mind right now than mine ; ) |
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03:49 | indradg | morning #koha |
03:49 | * indradg | waves |
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06:28 | reiveune | hello |
06:28 | wahanui | hello, reiveune |
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06:35 | mveron | Good worldtime #koha |
06:36 | @wunder Basel | |
06:36 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Attenschwiller, Sundgau, Attenschwiller, Switzerland is 15.2°C (8:35 AM CEST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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06:36 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
06:36 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 16.7°C (8:36 AM CEST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
06:37 | indradg | @wunder Kolkata |
06:37 | huginn | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 32.0°C (11:50 AM IST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling). |
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06:47 | cait | hi #koha |
06:49 | mveron | hi cait :-) |
06:49 | cait | hi mveron :) |
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06:50 | * magnuse | waves |
06:50 | cait | guten morgen magnuse :) |
06:50 | mveron | hi magnuse :-) |
06:51 | magnuse | hiya cait and mveron |
06:53 | indradg | hi cait, magnuse mveron |
06:53 | mveron | hi indradg :-) |
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07:14 | magnuse | hiya indradg and viktorsarge_ |
07:18 | viktorsarge_ | Hi :) |
07:23 | cait | hi indradg and viktorsarge_ |
07:25 | Joubu | hello #koha |
07:29 | magnuse | bonjour Joubu |
07:29 | @wunder boo | |
07:29 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
07:30 | ashimema | Morning #koha |
07:31 | dcook | magnuse: I had no idea there were only about 5 million people in Norway! |
07:31 | hi by the way :) | |
07:31 | Sydney, as a city, has about 4.5 million :S | |
07:32 | Well, not as a city. As a muncipal area. | |
07:32 | metropolitan area. Whatever. | |
07:36 | magnuse | yeah, we're small and cute ;-) |
07:57 | ashimema | small and cute might not be the operative words there magnuse ;) |
07:57 | cait | lol |
07:59 | ashimema | morning cait |
07:59 | certainly friendly though magnuse.. ;) | |
08:01 | dcook | Friendly and giant! |
08:01 | Ok, I should go home. When did it become 6? | |
08:03 | ashimema | lol |
08:03 | interesting comments you've made on the anywhere index bug dcook. | |
08:04 | cait | have a nice weekend dcook |
08:05 | dcook | thanks, cait. You too :) |
08:05 | ashimema: I vaguely recall them :D | |
08:05 | I remember the thing about the semantics | |
08:05 | And the xsltproc param thang | |
08:06 | I've used LibXML to pass in params when processing XSLTs in Perl before. It works a treat. | |
08:06 | Limit of 32 params, but... I don't know why a person would need so many | |
08:06 | ashimema | lol |
08:08 | dcook | I do like the idea of an anywhere index though |
08:08 | I think it's much more what people think of as a traditional "keyword" index | |
08:08 | Well, maybe not "traditional" | |
08:08 | But keyword at least | |
08:08 | Of course you could get lots of crap in there too.. | |
08:10 | ashimema | I felt the 'Any' index was a better keyword index than the 'Anywhere' one.. |
08:10 | dcook | Agreed |
08:10 | ashimema | already filtered down to a 'sensible' set of fields.. |
08:10 | dcook | For sure |
08:10 | ashimema | Anywhere is just too cumbersome. |
08:10 | dcook | Didn't you write the DOM patch? :p |
08:10 | ashimema | I did indeed.. |
08:11 | all I did though was run mathieu's patches through the grs1 to dom mill.. | |
08:11 | dcook | Mmm |
08:11 | ashimema | I didn't change any of the indexes he'd chosen to go inot the any. |
08:11 | I know it works, as a fiar chunk of our customers are using that patch ;) | |
08:11 | all our customers have been DOM for ages.. | |
08:12 | dcook | I'm sure it does work, but perhaps not according to the Bib-1 semantic spec, yes? |
08:12 | DOM is pretty awesome | |
08:12 | I guess we've had a fair number of people on it for some time now too | |
08:12 | ashimema | so I made it my mission some time back to try and 'domify' any patches that came in without dom counterparts ;) |
08:12 | dcook | Mmm |
08:12 | ashimema | i never read the bit-1 spec ;) |
08:12 | dcook | Your domming efforts are appreciated :) |
08:12 | ashimema | It noticibly improved search.. so I used it ;) |
08:13 | dcook | At this point, I'm still looking at query building :) |
08:13 | Well, by still looking I mean I've had zero time to look at it lately | |
08:13 | While I love having new clients, it makes it tougher to do community stuff :/ | |
08:13 | magnuse | ashimema: i meant as a country, not as individuals ;-) |
08:14 | dcook | I don't think I actually know any Norwegians besides magnuse |
08:14 | ashimema | I wouldn't say the country is especially cute either magnuse.. mountainous, cold, wet.. ;) |
08:14 | dcook | I think I have about 1/8 Norwegian ancestry so I guess I know the descendants of Norwegians :p |
08:14 | magnuse | hm, sounds like we need to have a kohacon here :-) |
08:14 | ashimema | hehe |
08:14 | dcook | :D |
08:15 | ashimema | I missed one.. beautiful.. |
08:15 | I hear it's very beautiful too | |
08:15 | I've been wanting to visit norway for years.. | |
08:15 | * magnuse | would say so |
08:15 | * dcook | needs to find a(n affordable) way to get to Norway |
08:15 | dcook | I almost went to Iceland to study Old Icelandic/Norse literature |
08:15 | ashimema | i's not just getting there.. it's really expensive to stay ther too dcook |
08:15 | dcook | But alas... moved to a different prairie city instead. Silly, dcook. |
08:15 | ashimema: Yeah, magnuse has shared some prices... yikes. | |
08:16 | magnuse | yeah, we are kind of expensive |
08:16 | ashimema | yup.. |
08:16 | I need to get my fitness back up before heading out.. | |
08:16 | I'd want to kayak a few crazy rivers if I was over there ;) | |
08:16 | magnuse | but it's not maye quite as expensive as some people make it out to be: http://www.garfors.com/2013/06[…]ity-in-world.html |
08:16 | ashimema | but i've lost the stamina for that at the moment. |
08:17 | dcook | Ah, that's the one that you showed me before, magnuse, I think |
08:17 | magnuse | yeah, i try to show it to people as often as i can |
08:17 | * ashimema | goe sto read it |
08:18 | dcook | Hmm, some of those prices aren't dissimilar to here |
08:18 | ashimema | dcook.. did you look at bug 9352 at all? |
08:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9352 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Needs Signoff , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 7XX |
08:18 | dcook | Are those US dollars? |
08:18 | ashimema: Not even a little bit | |
08:18 | Well, I followed the link. | |
08:18 | But I don't deal in UNIMARC | |
08:19 | ashimema | you sounded knolledgable about xsl.. |
08:19 | dcook | I think I have a bookmark somewhere to an IFLA site which sort of shows the UNIMARC "standard" |
08:19 | ashimema | wondered if you could cast your eye over patch 3 |
08:19 | dcook | I like to think I'm fairly knowledgeable about XSL these days :) |
08:19 | * dcook | is the worst husband right now |
08:20 | ashimema | it's more the changes to koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl i'm really interseted in someone looking at |
08:21 | indexing a group of subfields as a phrase sounds like genius to me ;) | |
08:21 | which reminds me.. | |
08:22 | dcook | Hmm |
08:22 | ashimema | anyone know if there's any clear documentation for the format of *-koha-indexdefs.xml knocking around.. |
08:22 | it's pretty self explanitory when you read it.. | |
08:23 | dcook | biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl looks ok |
08:23 | ashimema | but for 'new' features of it like this groups declarative I think some docs would be very suefull |
08:23 | dcook | I think koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xs is a bit funky in general of course |
08:23 | ashimema | indeed.. |
08:23 | it's darn clever really.. taking a relatively straight forward xml format to a pretty hard to digest xsl | |
08:24 | tcohen helped me finally get my head around that yesterday | |
08:24 | dcook | <xslo:value-of select="substring(' ', 1, 1)"/> is weird |
08:24 | I would think <xslo:text> </xslo:text> would probably work instead | |
08:25 | Hmm, would have to poke around more | |
08:26 | I was thinking a bit about phrase registers vs word registers today... | |
08:26 | Ah, and I think I just remembered how they work | |
08:26 | ashimema | cool.. i'de be interested to hear your thoughts.. |
08:27 | but maybe another time.. sounds like you need to go see th wife ;) | |
08:27 | * ashimema | just read up ;) |
08:28 | dcook | She's stopping at the pub. Maybe I'll take 5 more minutes.. |
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08:29 | dcook | Not sure that I see the utility of index_group_of_subfields |
08:29 | Oh I see... | |
08:30 | It's not all subfields. Just the ones that you want. | |
08:30 | ashimema | takes a moment to get your head aroud.. |
08:30 | but i 'think' it makes sense to me.. | |
08:30 | it's more whether the xsl is correct that i'm not able to do yet ;) | |
08:30 | cait | i wonder if we haven't something similar for subjects yet |
08:30 | with the work jared did on tracings? | |
08:30 | dcook | Mmm because koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl looks so funky? |
08:31 | cait | i think the idea there is similar, you want to have the $a and $x and whatever in one phrase so can search exactly |
08:31 | dcook | Mmm |
08:31 | That does sound the same | |
08:34 | ashimema: Yeah, I think it looks all right | |
08:34 | ashimema | fantastic.. |
08:34 | dcook | Don't know for sure without backtracking some of the inputs and such but overall I don't see anything too bad standing out |
08:34 | I'd suggest re-running xsltproc and then taking a look at the indexes in Zebra via yaz-client | |
08:34 | And on that note, I should run :) | |
08:35 | Ciao | |
08:39 | viktorsarge_ | Hi cait - sorry for slow response. On 2G line here trying to solve a little server mishap. |
08:44 | magnuse | viktorsarge_: not my server, i hope? |
08:49 | viktorsarge_ | No magnuse Your server have been behaving very well for over a year now :) |
08:50 | The only time we've had problems with the server magnuse is running for us was when we were flooded with traffic and it had to be filtered in the firewall. | |
08:52 | * magnuse | breathes a sigh of relief |
08:52 | cait | :) |
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09:55 | Joubu | cait: I am not sure to understand the difference between the "in-house use" and "reading room" terms (cf bug 10860). |
09:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10860 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , In-House Use |
10:01 | cait | hm maybe we shoudl ask a native speaker |
10:02 | i think in-house use is without a checkout maybe | |
10:02 | and anonymous as it is in koha now - you scan things that people have put on the tables to see what was used | |
10:03 | hm what david said in comment 26 | |
10:03 | what he described in the second part would be a reading room use here... lesesaalnutzung | |
10:04 | where the book is linked to a patron, but for some reason you are not allowed to take it out of the building, for example because it's a rare book | |
10:04 | I think my thought was that maybe we should use differnt terms if it means different thigns/approaces | |
10:05 | probably good to ask an english speaking academic library person :) | |
10:06 | Joubu | cait: erk ok thanks. I don't smell good at all... |
10:06 | ... | |
10:06 | It does not!* | |
10:06 | :p | |
10:07 | cait | heh :) |
10:07 | i have to leave early today - will be back next week - maybe jcamins or gmcharlt could be helpful here | |
10:07 | Joubu | in France we call that "consultation/reading on site" |
10:08 | ok thanks, I will ask them | |
10:08 | cait | i think maybe a similar concept to what we have here |
10:08 | it happens in ILL to - the other library sends the book, but says it can only be used in the readng room/under supervision | |
10:09 | Joubu | these patches are started to be really hard to rebase... |
10:09 | cait | i am sorry i am not much help right now :( |
10:09 | i hope it will be better again after 26th | |
10:09 | Joubu | yes, so reading room is maybe more meaningful here |
10:09 | cait | and looking forward to argentina and doing lots there |
10:18 | have a nice weekend all | |
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10:46 | * magnuse | wishes he was looking forward to argentina... |
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10:55 | bgkriegel | morning |
10:55 | ashimema | afternoon ;) |
11:02 | indradg | good $TZ_SPECIFIC_GREETINGS bgkriegel, ashimema :) |
11:02 | ashimema | ;) |
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11:06 | bgkriegel | :) |
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13:31 | oleonard | Font rendering in Chrome is ... off... today. |
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14:00 | ashimema | ? |
14:00 | Joubu | oleonard, gmcharlt, jcamins, ashimema: Could one of you (native speaker:)) tell me if the "In house use" term is correct for bug 10860. |
14:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10860 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , In-House Use |
14:01 | Joubu | The feature allows to check an item out to a patron but the patron is not allowed to go out with it. |
14:01 | (and the item has to be returned at the end of the day) | |
14:01 | ashimema | I see.. |
14:01 | hmm.. let me have a think.. | |
14:02 | Joubu | in France we call that "consultation/reading on site" |
14:02 | ashimema | doesn't sound especially celar to me.. but equially i can't think of anything better at the minute ;) |
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14:41 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6149: (qa followup) sysprefs should be alphabetically sorted <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6f6396e77a7d71c42> / Bug 6149: DBRev 3.17.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8c3b18d960606aa16> / Bug 6149 - Follow-up [syspref] - Stopwords for Result Highlighting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git |
14:46 | matts | ashimema, I've successfully tested the last shib patches, I'm signing them off. |
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14:54 | matts | it's a strange strange experience to use Vim in german... :) |
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14:59 | ashimema | lol |
14:59 | I had that issue on caits server too | |
15:00 | awesome.. thanks matts.. your a star | |
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15:01 | ashimema | I'm struggling to find a customer to test your inventory patch i'm afraid.. we've not used it here so I'm not really in a good position to test it :( |
15:01 | Happy to take a look at anything else though.. I deffo owe you one for the shib testing ;) | |
15:04 | reiveune | bye |
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15:09 | matts | Hmm too bad ! But I'll find something else for you to test, don't worry :) |
15:11 | Okay, let's enjoy the week-end now ! | |
15:11 | Bye ! | |
15:11 | tcohen | yay shibb! |
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15:33 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12582: DBRev 3.17.00.021 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4d241c2e8de40ffc> / Bug 12582 - Control of branch displayed in search results linked to HomeOrHoldingBranch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0d159b604af350f7> / Bug 12330: [QA Follow-up] Consistency between opac-search and staff client <http://git.koha- |
15:44 | Joubu | have a good w-e #koha! |
15:45 | oleonard | You too Joubu! |
15:49 | tcohen | enjoy Joubu ! |
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16:20 | * cait | waves |
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16:46 | cait | everyone has started their weekend already? :) |
16:48 | oleonard | Friday is always quiet around here |
16:48 | gmcharlt | BOOM |
16:48 | * oleonard | has a couple more hours of work-week left :) |
16:48 | gmcharlt | (that loud enough for you?) |
16:49 | cait | :) |
16:49 | much better! | |
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16:56 | Mahdi | hi - i had a question about having alternative names (or spellings) in the authority 400 field |
16:57 | it works great if you are searching for authorities, but when searching for the library record directly is it possible for koha to allow the different names | |
16:57 | it doesn't seem to work | |
16:58 | e.g. i am searching for all books by author X, but in the catalog search i enter X's nickname which in his authority record is present in the 400 field | |
16:58 | cait | there is a preference that will make that work |
16:58 | but you need to reindex completely | |
16:58 | Mahdi | ok |
16:58 | cait | and as there is a small bug, i'd wait for 3.16.4 to do that |
16:59 | Mahdi | when is that reelase expected |
16:59 | cait | around end of this month |
16:59 | Mahdi | OK i can wait for that |
16:59 | which preference is it | |
16:59 | cait | IncludeSeeFromInSearches |
16:59 | wahanui | rumour has it IncludeSeeFromInSearches is something else entirely, but DidYouMeanFromAuthorities shouldn't be there anymore |
17:00 | cait | had to look it up :) |
17:00 | the bug is, sec | |
17:00 | bug 12788 | |
17:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records |
17:00 | Mahdi | thanks! |
17:00 | cait | the 400s show up in the facets, which they shouldn't |
17:00 | should just be searchable :) | |
17:23 | tcohen | hi cait |
17:23 | cait | hi tomas |
17:23 | i am looking for some fun tonight | |
17:23 | do you want to pick a not too evil bug? :) | |
17:24 | tcohen | ok? |
17:25 | cait: would you consider reviewing 12788? it has two signoffs | |
17:25 | cait | bug 12788 |
17:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records |
17:26 | cait | sure! |
17:26 | tcohen | gmcharlt: have a minute? |
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18:01 | indradg | weekend starts tomorrow :) |
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18:30 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: this is what i'm using" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/194 |
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18:31 | indradg | cait: does bug 11298 impact only the master? |
18:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11298 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Renewal due date won't take specified time into account |
18:32 | cait | hm i am not sure, but i probably ran into it on an older version first |
18:32 | indradg | ok |
18:33 | cait | and it quite certainly predates the ajax patches |
18:33 | indradg | i couldnt reproduce it on 3.14.09 |
18:33 | cait | but this part didn't change i think |
18:33 | hm maybe a 3.16 | |
18:33 | indradg | possible will check |
18:33 | cait | thank you |
18:34 | indradg | i was looking at renewal datetimes because of this lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-September/040677.html |
18:34 | cait | tcohen: you passed qa :) |
18:34 | tcohen | awesome cait |
18:34 | cait | looking really good |
18:34 | indradg | strangely, in my 3.14.09 instance I can't reproduce the error that he says impacts his 3.14.08 |
18:35 | druthb | tcohen is quality! Definitely he would pass qa. |
18:35 | cait | hm i think 2 different hings |
18:35 | the time a reneal was done and the time a renwal was renewed to | |
18:35 | if that makes any sense | |
18:37 | tcohen: something else? | |
18:37 | tcohen | have a nice weekend :-D |
18:37 | cait | heh |
18:37 | ok | |
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18:42 | indradg | cait: time a renewal is done - lastreneweddate, where as date_due gets the new renewed to datetime... and I find that to be working correctly in 3.14.09. |
18:43 | cait | :) |
18:43 | indradg | can't see any bugfix on that in 3.14.09 relnotes... so no clue |
18:44 | cait | hm i don't remember a bug there right now :( |
18:56 | bag | afternoon y'all |
18:56 | magnuse: HI | |
18:56 | wahanui | privet, bag |
18:57 | cait | hi bag |
18:57 | bag | cait: HI |
18:57 | how you doing today? School going well? | |
18:58 | cait | hm some things yes, others ont |
18:58 | but i hope it's oging to work out | |
18:59 | how are you doing? plans for argentina made? | |
19:01 | bag | yup got tickets and got my hotel for argentina |
19:01 | I'm going to smoke some ribs this weekend so I can start getting inshape for the asado (tcohen) :) | |
19:01 | tcohen | :-D |
19:02 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: latest" (45 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/195 |
19:02 | bag | I arrive buttcrack earlier in the morning on the 7th (12:37am) and I'm there until the 13th |
19:02 | cait | cool :) |
19:03 | you should put that on the wiki :) | |
19:03 | tcohen | :D |
19:03 | bag | it will be up there at some point cait |
19:03 | cait | :) |
19:03 | * cait | is looking forward to the asado too |
19:03 | bag | cait++ |
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19:39 | tcohen | bye #koha |
19:40 | nice weekend | |
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19:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12788: (followup) minor optimization with proper tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]123c51ff2b6cf25fc> / Bug 12788: facets calculation should skip 100 if ind1=z <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]951684092045886fa> / Bub 12788: (regression test) refactor facet extraction code to allow testing <http://git.koha- |
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20:00 | bag | reports library? |
20:00 | wahanui | somebody said reports library was found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
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20:12 | Mahdi | hi - when adding a marc record, why is it some of the fields don't show up |
20:12 | some of the tags i mean, that are defined on the framework | |
20:17 | bag | if you click on the big heading do they "then" appear |
20:17 | Mahdi | what's the big heading? |
20:17 | e.g in the 9s tab | |
20:18 | i only see 942 | |
20:18 | where's 952 | |
20:18 | wahanui | rumour has it 952 is the field used for items in Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
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