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00:16 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
00:16 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
00:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_U12 build #119: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Master_U12/119/ |
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01:19 | eythian | http://online.wsj.com/articles[…]od=rss_Technology |
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03:16 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
03:16 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on August 14, 2014). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Rising). |
03:16 | eythian | https://twitter.com/Michael_J_[…]99755684515176448 -- about right |
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03:38 | eythian | what tables are authorities stored in? |
03:49 | wizzyrea | auth_header I think - it's got the marc and marcxml |
03:50 | eythian | yep, that ended up being it |
03:50 | that name doesn't seem intuative to me, but maybe it's got some domain meaning | |
04:02 | wizzyrea | I thought exactly the same thing |
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04:45 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for francesca" (66 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/159 |
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06:29 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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06:58 | ashimema | Morning Koha.. |
06:58 | marcelr: just the man i was hoping to catch | |
06:59 | marcelr | hi ashimema |
06:59 | ashimema | How are you? |
06:59 | marcelr | :) |
06:59 | ashimema | I wondered if you had any hints on how to track down errors in loading xslt sheets.. |
07:00 | marcelr | xsltproc ? |
07:00 | wahanui | xsltproc is probably calling the xslt with a wrong parameter? |
07:00 | ashimema | this is with your latest patches.. |
07:00 | marcelr | what is the error? |
07:00 | ashimema | one tic.. I'll dig it out.. |
07:02 | Error while loading stylesheet xml: Could not create file parser context for file "https://fbdteststaff.koha-ptfs[…]ntranetDetail.xsl": No such file or directory at /home/koha/kohaclone/Koha/XSLT_Handler.pm line 256. | |
07:03 | marcelr | let me have a look |
07:04 | ashimema | It's strange.. 'cause the file is publicly accessible.. along wit hthe utils files next to it.. |
07:04 | I'm sure it worked last time I tried with the same setup | |
07:04 | thanks | |
07:09 | brb.. just gotta restart this box | |
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07:19 | akafred | I am unable to sign up for the general mailing list... signing up for the dev list worked... ideas? |
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07:22 | marcelr | ashimema: i copied both files to my server and ran them on two ways on a simple marc record successfully: 1) via xsltproc 2) via Koha::XSLT_Handler |
07:23 | i have the impression that the import statement gives a problem | |
07:24 | somehow this reminds me of some earlier problem.. | |
07:24 | note that i changed the import statment to just href="Utils" | |
07:30 | ashimema | back |
07:30 | hmm.. | |
07:31 | you say you changed the '<xsl:import href="https://fbdteststaff.koha-ptfs[…]RC21slimUtils.xsl" />' | |
07:31 | line to <xsl:import href="Utils.xsl" /> | |
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07:32 | ashimema | where is your 'Utils' script hosted to get it then> |
07:32 | gaetan_B | hello |
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07:35 | ashimema | now I'm even more confused then.. :( |
07:37 | The error is very descriptive.. yet seems to be wrong.. | |
07:37 | 'No such file or directory' | |
07:37 | marcelr | ashimena: i copied both files to the same dir |
07:37 | if you replace the href by only the filename, does it work then? | |
07:37 | ashimema | ah.. did you use them directly as files rather than hosted |
07:38 | marcelr | yes, i saw some warning about certificates; so i copied them |
07:38 | ashimema | I'll have to move the files back into the srouce tree to switch to using just the filename. |
07:38 | oh.. a warning about certs? | |
07:38 | that 'might' be what i'm looking for. | |
07:38 | I don't get a cert warning. | |
07:39 | marcelr | i am still looking at XML:LibXML's load_xml location parameter |
07:39 | ashimema | :) |
07:41 | If I remove the full url. then the error shifts to a different line in XSLT_Handler.. | |
07:41 | i.e. the one ofr loading a file rather than a location.. | |
07:41 | and that makes sense that the file doesn't exist yet.. I've not put it there | |
07:42 | marcelr | ok |
07:42 | the problem seems to be the load_xml line | |
07:42 | the location could be a URL | |
07:43 | ashimema | indeed |
07:43 | marcelr | but if the xsl from that URL still contains a import with another URL it goes wrong |
07:43 | ashimema | i'm sure I tested that when I passed qa on the bug though.. |
07:43 | just re-reading the comments I wrote on the bug now.. | |
07:43 | maybe I'm going mad | |
07:44 | marcelr | we could do the old way: GetURI and parse string |
07:44 | better would be if LibXML was corrected :) | |
07:44 | ashimema | give me a second.. |
07:45 | I'm just gonna run the same stuff against my dev system again.. | |
07:45 | I'm sure it was working there | |
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07:46 | marcelr | i have another idea too looking at the code of LibXML |
07:47 | URI parameter? | |
07:47 | ashimema | I'm sure I tested it.. I'm wondering if there's a differnt between the LWP modules between the two system or somthing.. |
07:47 | just retesting on the dev server where i'm sure i had it working in this config before. | |
07:48 | URI parameter? | |
07:48 | marcelr | of load_xml |
07:48 | ashimema | ah.. that might do the trick.. |
07:48 | wan't me to try on this test system in a mo. | |
07:49 | marcelr | no it does not work (tested ) |
07:50 | with your intranetdetail in my staff xslt | |
07:50 | same error | |
07:51 | ashimema | shame.. that would have been a nice fix |
07:53 | marcelr | recall if there was some problem with GetURI too? |
07:53 | ashimema | there was an issue with https with GetURI.. |
07:53 | I had patched to fix it.. | |
07:53 | needed to use LWP useragent | |
07:54 | else https gets would fail | |
07:54 | but I beleive I tested it thoroughly when testig your bug to make sure https still worked without my lwp patch.. | |
07:54 | and it did. | |
07:54 | and proved.. | |
07:54 | it still does on my dev machine | |
07:54 | marcelr | bug 12172 |
07:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12172 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Remote XSLT style sheets fail to fetch under https under recent LWP::Simple |
07:55 | ashimema | does LibXML use LWP for load_xml.. |
07:55 | I tihnk it's a version mismatch there now.. | |
07:56 | marcelr | could the problem be only restricted to https in the import href ? |
07:57 | ashimema | Pants.. |
07:58 | with https is no longer works in my dev system either.. | |
07:58 | :( | |
07:58 | marcelr | well that is consistency at least.. |
07:59 | could you check if import works with http | |
07:59 | ashimema | that measn my comment here http://bugs.koha-community.org[…].cgi?id=11826#c20 is wrong :( |
07:59 | huginn | 04Bug 11826: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Improving code for XSLT handling |
07:59 | ashimema | I'm sure I tested it! |
08:00 | yup.. | |
08:00 | it's https that's broken.. | |
08:00 | I'm sure I tested that :( | |
08:00 | and sure it worked | |
08:00 | marcelr | let me check that again.. |
08:05 | ashimema: i have a import with http now failing also.. | |
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08:05 | marcelr | wait |
08:05 | this was a wrong test | |
08:05 | ashimema | sorry marcelr.. didn't mean to steal so much of your time this morning. |
08:06 | just wanting to make sure i've not goofed up whilst qa'ing and missed somthing. | |
08:07 | I'm wondering if it's libxml that's changed.. | |
08:07 | as I say.. I'm sure I tested with https | |
08:08 | marcelr | hey it works with http ! |
08:08 | it does not work with https | |
08:08 | ashimema | yeah.. works with http for me now. |
08:08 | just https that's failing.. | |
08:09 | as I say.. I wonder if libXML has changed.. just trying to find a changlog for it. | |
08:14 | marcelr | bug 12758 |
08:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12758 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , XSLT imports containing a https href in a XSLT stylesheet fail to work with LibXML's load_xml in XSLT_Handler |
08:14 | ashimema | cheers marcelr |
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08:31 | ashimema | great.. at east we're now happy it's a reported bug (both with libxml and our use). |
08:32 | thanks marcelr.. I thought I was going mad | |
08:34 | marcelr | you could resolve it temporarily with import http or reading the file into a string and modifying XSLT_Handler |
08:37 | ashimema | Yeah.. I'll see about putting up a copy on https.. just means adding a further vhost to the system just for the sheets |
08:38 | thanks for the help narrowing down the bug | |
08:40 | marcelr | hope to hear something from the cpan author.. |
08:40 | ashimema | yeah.. that would be the best solution. |
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08:55 | ashimema | hmm.. I think the cpan author is going to have to upstream it to the libxml2 author.. |
08:56 | looks like load_file is just a wrapper without any pre processing going on in the cpan module. | |
08:56 | * cait | waves |
08:56 | ashimema | Hi cait.. |
08:56 | cait.. we found the issue with my xslt.. | |
08:56 | cait | good! |
08:57 | ashimema | it's reuslted in a new bug being opened on both our bugzilla and cpan |
08:57 | and I reckon it'll go up another level too.. | |
08:57 | that's a new record for me ;) | |
08:59 | hows you? | |
09:04 | cait | overslept |
09:05 | enjoying vacation | |
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10:56 | marcelr | khall |
10:56 | around? | |
10:57 | khall | yep! |
10:57 | marcelr | hi khall: i would appreciate your opinion on bug 12754 |
10:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12754 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Add XSLT action to MARC modification templates |
10:57 | khall | will do! |
10:57 | marcelr | great |
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11:41 | khall | marcelr: I left some feedback for you on the bug report |
11:42 | marcelr | ok thx |
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11:53 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #17 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) |
12:22 | Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #17: STILL FAILING in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/17/ | |
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12:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #18 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) |
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12:39 | cait | t |
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12:40 | tcohen | morning |
12:41 | cait | morning tcohen |
12:42 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
12:42 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 8.0°C (9:00 AM ART on August 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 14%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
12:43 | tcohen | brrr |
12:49 | ashimema | hello |
12:49 | wahanui | salut, ashimema |
12:49 | tcohen | hi ashimema |
12:50 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage, uk |
12:50 | huginn | ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 15.0°C (1:41 PM BST on August 14, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). |
12:50 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
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12:50 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.8°C (2:45 PM CEST on August 14, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
12:50 | ashimema | How's it going tcohen.. |
12:50 | tcohen | good.. |
12:50 | ashimema | I've been having a lovely day learning angular.js.. |
12:50 | very interesting js library.. | |
12:51 | tcohen | it is awesome |
12:51 | we love it here | |
12:51 | ashimema | The local app I'm working on look likely to become mojolicious + Angular.js + Bootstrap |
12:51 | tcohen | my box partner uses it |
12:51 | ashimema | should be fun working with that set of tech. |
12:51 | box partner? | |
12:51 | tcohen | eh, office? |
12:52 | ashimema | cool.. I see. |
12:52 | tcohen | the office is divided into 4 "boxes"? |
12:52 | ashimema | ah.. I see. |
12:52 | makes sense.. | |
12:53 | I love koha.. but the more I play with new technologies the more I think 'wow it would be nice if we had 'x' in koha' | |
12:53 | we're getting there slwoly I suppose.. dbic is a big step forward. | |
12:53 | oleonard | The size of Koha makes it hard to maneuver |
12:53 | ashimema | Yeah.. she's a heavy boat these days ;) |
12:54 | takes allot to turn here :) | |
12:54 | s/here/her | |
12:54 | still pretty amazing how far it's come over the years though. | |
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12:58 | tcohen | my partner http://snag.gy/ECfqC.jpg |
13:00 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #18: NOW UNSTABLE in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/18/ |
13:01 | ashimema | :) |
13:01 | nice pic | |
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13:14 | gaetan_B | someone knows which are the 100% mandatory fields in marc21 ? as in not having those fields will actually make koha crash |
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13:31 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
13:31 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
13:31 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #50: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]r_U12_MariaDB/50/ |
13:32 | cait | gaetan_B: not having a leader would probably cause problems |
13:32 | gaetan_B | yep true |
13:32 | what about fields like 008 and 005 ? | |
13:33 | cait | maybe |
13:33 | and 990 | |
13:33 | or 999? the one with the bibionumber | |
13:33 | gaetan_B | 999 |
13:33 | both c and d it seems | |
13:34 | cait | yep |
13:34 | * gaetan_B | is going to try it without anything but the leader and 999c an d |
13:34 | cait | biblionumber and biblioitemnumber |
13:36 | what are you trying to do? | |
13:38 | gaetan_B | we have a client for which all the data will be at the item level |
13:38 | cait | ? |
13:38 | gaetan_B | so i need the most minimal possible framework |
13:38 | yes :) | |
13:39 | cait | i'd include the 005 and 008 too i think |
13:41 | jcamins | 005 isn't really necessary. 008 is probably a good idea, though. |
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14:04 | saturday_sun | Hi! I'm currently installing Koha 3.16 on a Debian server. Following the guide at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian, I'm stuck after installing the packages. I'm trying to load the setup page on 192.168.1.111:8080 (my servers ip on my local network), I just get the default Apache2 page (It works!). I've tried the installion on both a virtual machine and directly on hardware, ending up |
14:04 | at the same problem. I've have disabled the default page, installed MySQL and created a koha instance. | |
14:07 | cait | if you install with packages |
14:08 | the staff url will be configured in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf | |
14:08 | it's not necessarily 8080 | |
14:08 | you might want to check how the file is set up | |
14:10 | saturday_sun | it shows that intraport and opacport are set to 80, should I change one of them to 8080? |
14:13 | cait | it probably is set up to use a sub domain |
14:13 | take a look at intreprefix and intrasuffic and domain | |
14:15 | saturday_sun | yes, I've altered domain it to "", but it makes no diffrence. intraprefix is set to "" and intrasuffix is "-intra". |
14:19 | the administration website URL, how does it look, generally? If you connect to the server over a local area network? | |
14:20 | cait | it will only make a difference for the next generated instance |
14:20 | it looks like the file tells it to look | |
14:21 | saturday_sun | ok |
14:21 | cait | if the intrasuffix is intra |
14:21 | then it will be yourdomain-intra.... | |
14:21 | you can change it to 80 8080 and then leave the prefixes/suffixes empty i think | |
14:22 | saturday_sun | I'll try that |
14:25 | It worked, I can now access the setup page. Thanks alot! | |
14:25 | cait | cool, good luck |
14:35 | oleonard | cait++ # holiday tech support |
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14:59 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
14:59 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #278: "jcamins: ... OMGOMGOMG MUST FIX ALL THE THINGS." (added by mtompset at 03:50 AM, September 17, 2013) |
15:10 | thd | Is there a meeting now or am I still asleep? |
15:11 | cait | hm i think there should be one now |
15:12 | i am not really prepared for chairing | |
15:12 | thd | tcohen: Are you here for the meeting? |
15:13 | cait | gmcharlt: could you chair? |
15:13 | * thd | is definitely not really awake. |
15:13 | gmcharlt | cait: not really at the moment |
15:14 | cait | seems bad timing for the meeting |
15:14 | i can try with some help from others? :) | |
15:14 | tcohen | hi |
15:14 | cait | hi tcohen |
15:14 | available for the meeting? | |
15:14 | jcamins | I could chair the meeting if it ended by 11:30, but that seems unlikely, so count me out. |
15:14 | (it is 11:14) | |
15:15 | * gmcharlt | will fire off a quite update: I will be pushing patches today for 3.16.3; will include the ajax circ work |
15:15 | tcohen | i am |
15:15 | cait | #startmeeting General Community IRC Meeting |
15:15 | huginn | Meeting started Thu Aug 14 15:15:44 2014 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
15:15 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
15:15 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General Community IRC Meeting) | |
15:15 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_community_irc_meeting' |
15:15 | cait | #topic introductions |
15:15 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
15:15 | Topic for #koha is now introductions (Meeting topic: General Community IRC Meeting) | |
15:15 | cait | please introduce yourself with #intro |
15:16 | um | |
15:16 | #info | |
15:16 | #info Katrin Fischer, Germany | |
15:16 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Universidad Nacionald de Cordoba |
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15:16 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
15:16 | gmcharlt | #info Galen Charlton, Equinox |
15:16 | cait | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nd_14_August_2014 |
15:16 | bgkriegel | #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Argentina |
15:16 | jmsasse | #info Joel Sasse Plum Creek |
15:17 | jwagner | #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
15:18 | cait | ok |
15:18 | are any RMaints around? | |
15:18 | #topic Updates on 3.8 - 3.16 | |
15:18 | Topic for #koha is now Updates on 3.8 - 3.16 (Meeting topic: General Community IRC Meeting) | |
15:19 | gmcharlt | #info gmcharlt will be pushing patches for 3.16.3 today, to include the ajax tables on the checkout pages work |
15:19 | cait | khall ? |
15:20 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ |
15:20 | cait | ok |
15:20 | tcohen | khall and fridolin have been pushing stuff this days |
15:20 | cait | moving on then :) |
15:20 | tcohen | so they are ready for string freeze |
15:20 | cait | good :) |
15:20 | #topic Update on 3.18 | |
15:20 | Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.18 (Meeting topic: General Community IRC Meeting) | |
15:21 | tcohen | 3.18 is moving on |
15:21 | QueryParser problems related to Perl 5.18 seem to have been sorted out | |
15:21 | and Katrin created an omnibus bug for QueryParser usage blockers | |
15:22 | * tcohen | will be pushing new stuff next week |
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15:23 | cait | tcohen++ |
15:23 | jmsasse | tcohen++ |
15:23 | cait | are there any news about the utf-8 bug? |
15:23 | gmcharlt | not at present from me :( |
15:24 | tcohen | there aren't, unfortunately we are kind of stuck |
15:24 | cait | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]F8_in_development |
15:24 | tcohen | we need dpavlin and Joubu to update on that |
15:24 | gmcharlt | gmcharlt-- |
15:24 | huginn | gmcharlt: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
15:24 | cait | it looks like there are some problems noted on the wiki page still |
15:24 | tcohen | the main problem from the RM POV is the lack of regression tests |
15:24 | I'd like to work on that, or even hear ideas that might help people | |
15:25 | working on that bugs realise what needs to be done | |
15:25 | we can talk about that in the next dev meeting | |
15:25 | or maybe a koha-devel discussion needs to take place | |
15:26 | cait | some action item for the logs? :) |
15:27 | tcohen | #action Tomas will drop an email on koha-devel to discuss UTF-8 related patches |
15:27 | cait | moving on? |
15:27 | #topic Code of Conduct | |
15:27 | Topic for #koha is now Code of Conduct (Meeting topic: General Community IRC Meeting) | |
15:28 | cait | thd has sent an email to the mailing list |
15:28 | thd | Has anyone had a chance to look at my proposed amendments? |
15:28 | tcohen | i haven't, sorry thd |
15:28 | gmcharlt | nor I |
15:29 | cait | #link http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ugust/040462.html |
15:29 | thd | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]ugust/040462.html |
15:29 | cait | i am sorry,me neither |
15:30 | tcohen | thomas, which are the ammendments? |
15:31 | thd | They are numbered 1.1 to 1.8 in the email message at the link above. |
15:31 | gmcharlt | it's pretty clear, to me at least, that we cannot usefully discuss the amendments just now |
15:31 | not enough time | |
15:31 | thd | The integrated text is given in section 2. |
15:31 | * tcohen | is reading |
15:31 | gmcharlt | consequently, I propose that we dicuss on the mailing list and vote at the next meeting |
15:32 | thd | My message states that we should be able to patch at anytime even after adoption. |
15:32 | All code has bugs, even codes of conduct. | |
15:32 | tcohen | we should have this voted for kohacon14 |
15:32 | gmcharlt | tcohen: agreed |
15:32 | cait | so aim for the september meeting? |
15:33 | gmcharlt | and no later |
15:33 | tcohen | i agree we could try to have broader dsisuccion on the list |
15:33 | thd | Next meeting is still well before discussion. |
15:33 | tcohen | i say in advance that i agree with the ammendments and the new included text |
15:34 | thd | Someone privately caught a spelling error. |
15:34 | tcohen | thd: is it possible to have a patch for galen's so people easily notice the difference? |
15:34 | s/notice/spot/ | |
15:34 | cait | ok i think moving to the list? |
15:34 | gmcharlt | +1 |
15:34 | tcohen | +1 |
15:35 | cait | #info Voting on the Code of Conduct will take place at the September meeting, discussion to take place on the list |
15:35 | jmsasse | +1 |
15:35 | jwagner | +1 |
15:35 | thd | ant-harassment at the end should be anti-harassment. |
15:35 | cait | sorr,y was a bit fast there :) |
15:35 | moving on to ... | |
15:35 | thd | tcohen: Yes |
15:35 | cait | #topic KohaCon14 |
15:35 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon14 (Meeting topic: General Community IRC Meeting) | |
15:35 | tcohen | thd: thanks |
15:36 | #info Tomas will post a preliminary schedule to the public list | |
15:37 | cait | nice! |
15:37 | tcohen | #info People that already booked to be on kohacon14, please take the time to register. we need to have the number of atendees |
15:37 | cait | should we also send it to other lists like code4lib? |
15:37 | tcohen | cait: yes |
15:37 | * cait | is registered :) |
15:38 | tcohen | #info galen and zeno have asked to remotely speak at the conference |
15:38 | please make sure you registered your conference | |
15:38 | :-D | |
15:39 | ok, that's it | |
15:39 | cait | #topic Kohacon15 |
15:39 | Topic for #koha is now Kohacon15 (Meeting topic: General Community IRC Meeting) | |
15:39 | cait | thx tcohen |
15:40 | so far we only have 1 application I think | |
15:40 | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]haCon15_Proposals | |
15:40 | there is a note on zambia - but i think it's not from them | |
15:41 | hm i thought we had agreed on a deadline | |
15:41 | but it's not noted on the wiki page | |
15:41 | does someone remember? | |
15:41 | thd | I have tried to prompt more interest on the mailing list. |
15:41 | The deadline was in my message. | |
15:41 | cait | i think we had one application from india, but it was then withdrawn |
15:41 | removed from the wiki page again | |
15:42 | hm i think i found it | |
15:42 | #link https://www.mail-archive.com/k[…].nz/msg11058.html | |
15:42 | august 15th | |
15:43 | gmcharlt | yeah |
15:43 | cait | that doesn't leave much time :) |
15:43 | ok, moving on? | |
15:43 | gmcharlt | yeah |
15:43 | cait | #topic Action from last meeting |
15:43 | Topic for #koha is now Action from last meeting (Meeting topic: General Community IRC Meeting) | |
15:44 | cait | i think those have been done |
15:44 | #topic Set date/time for next meeting | |
15:44 | Topic for #koha is now Set date/time for next meeting (Meeting topic: General Community IRC Meeting) | |
15:44 | cait | suggestions? |
15:45 | wahanui | suggestions are still there |
15:45 | cait | September 17th maybe? |
15:45 | gmcharlt | I suggest we raise the question on the mailnig list, actualy |
15:45 | cait | the meeting time? |
15:45 | wahanui | i heard the meeting time was always going to favour one section of the globe |
15:45 | gmcharlt | given the lack of attendance yesterday, I think we have a question whether the two-part meetings actually work for folks in NZ/Aus |
15:45 | cait | it's also vacation time currently in europe, we can see that toda |
15:46 | y | |
15:46 | we shoudl keep in mind that we need to have the vote before kohacon | |
15:46 | thd | We should raise the issue on the mailing list but low attendance may have much to do with the time of year. |
15:46 | cait | maybe we could suggest a date and discuss time on the list? |
15:46 | gmcharlt | works for me |
15:47 | and 17 September is OK with me as a target | |
15:47 | cait | tcohen: ? |
15:47 | tcohen | i agree |
15:47 | thd | +1 |
15:47 | tcohen | +1 |
15:47 | jmsasse | +1 |
15:47 | cait | #agreed Next meeting is going to take place on September 17th - time to be agreeed on on the mailing list |
15:47 | hm to many eee :) | |
15:48 | who is going to write to the list? | |
15:48 | gmcharlt | I will |
15:48 | tcohen | cait: about? |
15:48 | cait | #action gmcharlt will ask about the meeting time on the list |
15:48 | tcohen: wnated to know if the date was ok with you :) | |
15:48 | anything else people want to add? | |
15:48 | before I close the meeting? | |
15:49 | #endmeeting | |
15:49 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.2 is available! Next general meeting is 13 and 14 August 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
15:49 | huginn | Meeting ended Thu Aug 14 15:49:09 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
15:49 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-08-14-15.15.html | |
15:49 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]4-08-14-15.15.txt | |
15:49 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]14-15.15.log.html | |
15:49 | jmsasse | cait: Thanks for chairing:) |
15:50 | tcohen | cait++ |
15:50 | jmsasse | cait++ |
15:50 | cait | minutes are on the wiki page |
15:50 | gmcharlt | cait++ |
15:50 | thd | cait++ |
15:51 | cait++ #Despite your not prepared statement. | |
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15:53 | tcohen | she's always prepared |
15:53 | cait | not really |
15:53 | * thd | prepares to have more sleep before meeting the bright lights at the dentist's again. |
15:53 | cait | ew |
15:54 | tcohen | #koha, does this read ok? |
15:54 | $s_userid = $session->param('id') // ''; | |
15:54 | C4::Context::set_userenv( | |
15:54 | $session->param('number'), $s_userid, | |
15:55 | what is the point of setting '' as the userid? | |
15:56 | thd | Does it avoid a possible undefined error later? |
15:56 | tcohen | from my pov, it is hiding another problem |
15:56 | thd: you're right | |
16:22 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
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16:28 | gorfeas | hello |
16:28 | wahanui | que tal, gorfeas |
16:28 | gorfeas | hola buenas |
16:28 | mi primera instalacion de koha, no consigo activar otros idiomas | |
16:28 | (should I write in english?) | |
16:30 | cait | hi gorfeas - we have some spanish speakers, but mostly this is an english channel |
16:30 | gorfeas | hello newbie here, I need some help activating other languages under, system preferances-i18n |
16:30 | cait | whahanui is a chat bot - sometimes he chooses a spanish greeting :) |
16:31 | gorfeas | i only see english |
16:31 | cait | how did you install Koha? |
16:31 | gorfeas | easy koha live dvd (ubuntu) |
16:31 | cait | oh |
16:32 | I am not sure then | |
16:32 | additional languages? | |
16:32 | ec | |
16:32 | gorfeas | i can see al;l thr po files in the folders but not in the preferances |
16:32 | cait | yes |
16:32 | you have to run a command to install a lanugage first | |
16:32 | the command will be a bit different depending on how koha was installed | |
16:33 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ANET_staff_client | |
16:33 | i'd start assuming you got a packages installation | |
16:33 | but i am not sure about the live cd really - do you have a link? | |
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16:36 | oleonard | mbeaulieu around? |
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17:40 | koha | hello |
17:40 | uim lkookin | |
17:41 | im looking for a web instaler for koha | |
17:41 | but i dont know where i can find it | |
17:45 | oleonard | What do you mean "a web installer?" |
17:45 | koha | yes.. sorry |
17:46 | oleonard | You can download Koha at http://koha-community.org/ |
17:46 | koha | ok... let me explain |
17:47 | im migrating from WinIsis to Koha | |
17:48 | i downloaded koha live dvd | |
17:48 | to test it | |
17:48 | ok_ | |
17:48 | ok? | |
17:52 | is anyone out there_ | |
17:52 | ? | |
17:52 | wnickc | ok, you got the live dvd, then what? |
17:52 | koha | ty |
17:53 | i did everything | |
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17:54 | koha | and everything went great |
17:55 | i succesfully migrate WinIsis | |
17:57 | i work in a library whit 16000 records | |
17:57 | wnickc | ok so far |
17:58 | koha | and for testing koha I installed on a pc |
17:58 | sorry if my english is not perfect | |
17:58 | but i speak spanish | |
17:59 | so... | |
17:59 | i need to put it online | |
17:59 | and i dont know how to | |
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18:00 | koha | i create an .ISO with remastersys on Ubuntu |
18:01 | but i need to install it on a hosting | |
18:01 | in this library we dont have a server | |
18:02 | but we can rent a host | |
18:02 | so... what can i do? | |
18:02 | cait | koha: you will need a root server and I would install koha there from scratch |
18:02 | the live dvds are not for production use | |
18:02 | packages? | |
18:02 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
18:03 | cait | this is the easiest way to install koha, but you will need to rent a root server for koha, where you have root access to the command line |
18:04 | bgkriegel | ^^ lo que dice cait es lo que necesitas!! |
18:04 | hi cait :) | |
18:04 | cait | hi bgkriegel :) |
18:05 | this what cait says are the necessities? | |
18:05 | or something like that? | |
18:05 | bgkriegel | something like that, yeah :) |
18:06 | what cait said is what you need | |
18:06 | :) | |
18:06 | cait | :) |
18:06 | koha | lol |
18:06 | ok | |
18:07 | we can learn some spanish too | |
18:07 | bgkriegel | por supuesto! |
18:07 | cait | of course! |
18:07 | koha | so... i will lose everything i did? |
18:07 | cait | koha: you can reuse the db if oyu want |
18:08 | koha | settings, configuration? |
18:08 | cait | with the confiugration and migrated data if you imported |
18:08 | bgkriegel | it's all in database |
18:08 | koha | i can install koha from scratch |
18:09 | but how can I import all those settings? | |
18:09 | tcohen | koha: install from scratch, populate the DB |
18:09 | with a dump from the old one | |
18:10 | koha | populate? |
18:10 | dump? | |
18:10 | wahanui | hmmm... dump is too new - not too old |
18:10 | oleonard | Hush, wahanui |
18:10 | wahanui | oleonard: what? |
18:10 | cait | koha: you can export the database from your existing installation and import htat in the installation on the server |
18:10 | the tool you want is mysqldump | |
18:11 | koha | sure... I can do that |
18:11 | but settings and everything else? | |
18:11 | cait | it's all in the DB |
18:12 | koha | everything? |
18:12 | wahanui | i guess everything is grilled |
18:12 | tcohen | db config isn't |
18:13 | koha | i didnt knew that |
18:13 | tcohen | also apache config will need to be adjusted |
18:13 | koha | i think its just records and items |
18:13 | cait | records, items, circulation rules, patrons... |
18:13 | not the apache config and not the db config... but everything you set inside koha basically is | |
18:13 | koha | for real? |
18:14 | cait | no, we are joking ;) |
18:14 | for real - moving the db is fine, people do it for moving from one server to another too | |
18:15 | tcohen | koha: what you mean by real? |
18:15 | koha | and I wont lose anything |
18:16 | tcohen | koha, have you tweaked your zebra / koha / apache config files somehow? |
18:16 | koha | im asking again because its a lot |
18:17 | i dont think so | |
18:17 | tcohen | koha: si no tocaste ningun archivo especialmente, vas a andar bien |
18:18 | koha | not on purpose |
18:18 | tcohen | |
18:18 | tcohen | hace un dump de la base, instala koha usando paquetes, crea la instancia e importale la base dentro |
18:18 | koha | hablas espanol? |
18:18 | tcohen | acordate de correr koha-upgrade-schema <nombre de instancia> |
18:19 | koha: alguna duda? | |
18:19 | koha | si... muchas |
18:19 | bgkriegel | jeje, es lo normal |
18:19 | :) | |
18:20 | koha | no quiero perder toda la configuracion |
18:20 | tcohen | a que le llamas 'toda la configuracion'? |
18:20 | parametros configurados en Koha usando las pantallas administrativas? | |
18:21 | koha | lo que viene en preferencias del sistema |
18:21 | tcohen | no problem |
18:21 | bgkriegel | todo ello está en la base de datos |
18:21 | tcohen | una cosa que tenes que tener en cuenta para quedarte tranquilo: |
18:21 | koha | toda la configuracion del OPAC |
18:21 | tcohen | que instales un Koha nuevo y pruebes la base alli, no significa que borres lo que tienes actualmente |
18:21 | bgkriegel | koha: has personalizado el opac? |
18:22 | tcohen | por supuesto que deberías hacer la prueba, comparar resultados, y eventualmente decidir que esta suficientemente bien como para abandonar la primera instalacion |
18:23 | koha | tengo el OPAC personalizado |
18:23 | claro | |
18:23 | ya tengo todos los respaldos posibles | |
18:23 | ya los tengo en disco compacto | |
18:23 | tcohen | koha: personalizado == modificado los templates? |
18:23 | koha | y en todos los lugares posibles |
18:23 | tcohen | o solo CSS y preferencias? |
18:24 | koha | personalizado == apariencia |
18:24 | tcohen | koha: hay varias formas de hacer eso, dependiendo lo que hayas hecho, la respuesta |
18:25 | * tcohen | would pay an asado to anyone that rewrites C4::Auth before kohacon14 |
18:25 | bgkriegel | hehe |
18:26 | tcohen | i mean, best asado ever |
18:26 | koha | jeje |
18:26 | jcamins | tcohen: all kobe beef and wild pheasant and... I'd say Cordoban wine, but that probably goes without saying? |
18:27 | tcohen | jcamins: we prefer wine from Mendoza or San Juan |
18:27 | best wine i can afford, included | |
18:27 | bgkriegel | Cordoba's wine.. Pfff, no, Mendoza!! |
18:27 | koha | ok |
18:28 | vamos desde el principio | |
18:28 | tcohen | koha: hace la prueba, en un servidor nuevo / maquina virtual |
18:28 | jcamins | tcohen: huh. I did not know that. |
18:28 | koha | necesito un inslatador web |
18:28 | tcohen | y fijate que tendras que hacer |
18:28 | para volver a lo que tenias | |
18:28 | koha | instalador web |
18:28 | eso existe? | |
18:28 | tcohen | no |
18:28 | koha | como lo instalo en un host rentado |
18:28 | ? | |
18:28 | tcohen | ningun software tiene instalador web |
18:29 | necesitas acceso a la terminal en el servidor rentado | |
18:29 | bgkriegel | koha: utilizando una shell remota |
18:29 | tcohen | contrata un servidor Ubuntu en linode |
18:29 | koha | es que eso es exactamente lo que yo digo |
18:30 | pero los benditos informaticos no me entienden | |
18:30 | porque nunca han usado koha | |
18:30 | tcohen | ah |
18:30 | deciles esto: Koha es un software que viene empaquetado para Debian/Ubuntu | |
18:31 | basta con un servidor Ubuntu LTS con acceso a la terminal remota | |
18:31 | koha | me dicen que tiene que existir un instalador web |
18:31 | tcohen | preguntales "Que es un instalador web?" |
18:32 | jcamins: i like this one http://www.fincalasmoras.com.a[…]os/moranegra.html | |
18:32 | koha | ellos piensan que funciona como un programa de Windows que se le da siguiente muchas veces |
18:32 | tcohen | that's the one we opened when we knew Manuel was coming |
18:32 | koha: es bastante asi realmente | |
18:33 | pero lo mejor es que los pongas a ellos a hablar con nosotros | |
18:33 | de otra forma no podemos ayudarte | |
18:33 | ya que tus informaticos imponen condiciones que habria que revisar/discutir | |
18:33 | * jcamins | looks to see if it's available. |
18:34 | koha | perfecto... dejame ver si estan ac[a cerca |
18:34 | tcohen | jcamins: come to kohacon14, i'll be glad to open a couple of those |
18:35 | jcamins | :) |
18:35 | * jcamins | would love to! |
18:36 | tcohen | bye everyone |
18:36 | bgkriegel | bye |
18:37 | wnickc | tcohen++ cait++ bgkriegel++ you guys are the most helpful people |
18:39 | koha | ty all |
18:40 | im going to keep trying | |
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19:51 | Mahdi | hi i installed koha 3.16 on debian 7.0 using the instructions available here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
19:51 | specifically i followed the instructions for the current stable version | |
19:51 | however i know have encoutnered a bug that has been fixed | |
19:51 | is there anyway i can apply the patch myself? | |
19:51 | this is the bug: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12243 | |
19:51 | huginn | 04Bug 12243: critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Records with invalid ISBNs can cause searches to fail |
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20:44 | wnickc | shhh |
20:49 | jmsasse | This is insane. That cat is playing Chopsticks WITH chopsticks. |
20:50 | wnickc | lol |
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22:05 | Mahdi_ | hi i'm using 3.16.02.000 on a debian 7 box. i am getting an error message very similar to bug 12243, it happens when I am searching for new records using the z39.50 search |
22:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12243 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Records with invalid ISBNs can cause searches to fail |
22:06 | Mahdi_ | the error message i'm getting is the same as this bug's, however looking at the source code on my box, I have the bug fix already there |
22:06 | any ideas? | |
22:06 | wahanui | any ideas are welcome :) |
22:08 | Mahdi_ | although the line that is causing the error "can't call method 'as_string' on an undefined value" contains this code |
22:08 | $string = $isbn->as_string( [] ); | |
22:09 | so maybe it's a different error than the bug which was fixing a similar error a few lines about | |
22:09 | a few lines above* | |
22:09 | pianohacker | Mahdi_: under what circumstances do you get the bug? |
22:09 | wahanui | the bug is, like, it stores biblionumber not itemnumber |
22:10 | Mahdi_ | I am searching for records using the "new from z39.50" search |
22:10 | and i enter a search of books with the author name "Khomeini" | |
22:10 | when I click the next page to go to the 2nd page of books | |
22:10 | i encounter the error | |
22:10 | i guess there is a record there that has some problem with it's ISBN | |
22:12 | pianohacker | that's odd, that code shouldn't trigger that bug... |
22:18 | Mahdi_ | OK I just changed the code to populate the variable as an empty string instead |
22:18 | and it fixed the issue | |
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22:33 | tcohen | hi |
22:33 | wahanui | kia ora, tcohen |
22:33 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
22:33 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 14.0°C (7:00 PM ART on August 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
22:33 | eythian | hi |
22:34 | tcohen | eythian: are you familiar with mariadb deployments? |
22:34 | eythian | sorta |
22:34 | I've never adminned one, but we do use it here | |
22:34 | tcohen | i've set a node for jenkins with mariadb |
22:34 | i chose 10.0 | |
22:34 | eythian | I've encountered no issues at all with it |
22:34 | tcohen | but there's also 10.1 |
22:34 | i'm not sure which we should test on | |
22:37 | eythian | I dunno, probably the most recent that's in whatever distro you're running on the machine |
22:37 | I don't imagine there'll be huge differences between them | |
22:44 | * tcohen | recalls Koha doesn't work properly with MySQL 5.6 |
22:45 | tcohen | does debian ship it? |
22:45 | eythian | oh yeah, that's right, there was something funny with that. |
22:46 | tcohen | it doens't like password to be sent from command line |
22:46 | eythian | wheezy is 5.5.38 |
22:46 | tcohen | it seems it doesn't ship mariadb |
22:46 | eythian | 5.6 is only in experimental |
22:46 | tcohen | just mysql |
22:47 | eythian | yeah |
22:47 | tcohen | yes, not even 14.04 ships 5.6 |
22:47 | eythian | mariadb is in 14.04 |
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22:53 | tcohen | oh, you're right? |
22:53 | s/?/!/ | |
22:54 | its in universe | |
22:54 | eythian | yeah |
22:54 | which is a little dubious, but they're probably keen to only support one mysql-like thing at a time | |
22:54 | tcohen | hmm, i searched on 12.04 only, because is the one similar to wheeze |
22:55 | ok, we are now testing on MariaDB 10.1 | |
22:55 | 10.0 | |
22:56 | no problems spotted for now | |
22:59 | eythian | cool |
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23:12 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12659:Fixing mispelling of the word receive <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a3ac063d06ad87983> / Bug 12749 - Better translatability for list module <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e7ead96eaee90acd4> |
23:15 | eythian | tcohen: actually, something we have seen with mariadb is logs like this: Mar 7 21:00:18 mariadb-server mysqld: 140307 21:00:18 [Warning] Aborted connection 70245 to db: 'koha_someone' user: 'koha_someone' host: 'somekohaserver.catalyst.net.nz' (Unknown error) |
23:15 | I'd be interested to see if you see that too | |
23:16 | tcohen | i might move my dev setup to mariadb to see if I spot something |
23:16 | sounds familiar to the problem we have with squeeze's dbic | |
23:21 | rangi | tcohen: if you have a chance the koha_3.14.x job (or workspaces) seems busted (or the 3.14.x branch maybe) |
23:21 | who is 3.14.x rmaint? | |
23:21 | tcohen | firdo |
23:21 | frido | |
23:21 | i'll take a look | |
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23:22 | rangi | thanks |
23:22 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12673: (followup) fix Supplemental issue too <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cd00446443042098f> / Bug 12673: Followup - fix display in serials-edit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]55d6f74fa4162e559> |
23:23 | rangi | i dont quite understand the message |
23:23 | something to do with cant find source | |
23:23 | tcohen | it was my mistake |
23:24 | I added several dirs on the master task | |
23:24 | and there is one that is missing in 3.14 | |
23:24 | rangi | ahhh |
23:24 | well thats good :) better than the branch being broken :) | |
23:25 | tcohen | Cannot detect source of 't/db_dependent/Holds' |
23:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12621: Z39.50-targets - Record type is untranslatable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ce015eb66c91def1d> |
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23:42 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8938: Transport cost matrix script and template contain untranslatable strings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]61a6604ef43bbb06b> |
23:59 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_D7 build #114: UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/114/ |
23:59 | * Marc Veron: Bug 12749 - Better translatability for list module | |
23:59 | * Natalie Bennison: Bug 12659:Fixing mispelling of the word receive | |
23:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12749 trivial, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Better translatability for list module |
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