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| 01:18 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 01:32 | Dyrcona | rangi: I'm going to see if I can do this with as little disruption as possible. I've had some ideas that involve drastic reorganization of the current code. |
| 01:33 | rangi: I'll still have to change function interfaces at a minimum. | |
| 01:33 | rangi | sweet as |
| 02:18 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 02:18 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (2:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
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| 04:09 | cait | morning #koha |
| 04:12 | eythian | hi cait |
| 04:13 | cait | hi eythian |
| 04:13 | not sure when i will get to it, but i will try to get it working | |
| 04:13 | eythian | k |
| 04:13 | dcook | hey cait |
| 04:13 | eythian | it's literally a five minute job |
| 04:13 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 04:13 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (2:00 PM EST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:13 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 04:13 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:13 | eythian | hasn't changed much |
| 04:18 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 04:18 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 15.0°C (6:00 AM CEST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 04:18 | dcook | Whoa, I didn't realize it's been two hours.. |
| 04:19 | Mmm summer... | |
| 04:19 | cait | eythian: i believe you... but I don't have good memories fo trying to set up caching :) |
| 04:19 | eythian | that's why I wrote it down :) |
| 04:47 | cait | that's what i had hoped for :) |
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| 05:38 | eythian | does Koha have a proper password reset function yet? |
| 05:39 | i.e. where you can put your email address in and it'll send you a reset link? | |
| 05:39 | cait | sadly no |
| 05:39 | there is abug with a patch set | |
| 05:39 | eythian | rats |
| 05:39 | dcook | I think blou was working on that? |
| 05:39 | cait | yeah |
| 05:39 | but i think it needed some more work | |
| 05:39 | dcook | Yeah, I haven't looked in a while |
| 05:39 | cait | it would be nice if it worked similar to the patron registration feature |
| 05:39 | sending out an emai with a one time link | |
| 05:40 | bug 8753 | |
| 05:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC |
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| 06:30 | dcook | I think I might actually like DBIx::Class... |
| 06:30 | Bit of a learning curve, but it's a bit handy | |
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| 06:44 | eythian | yep |
| 06:44 | dcook | Not sure how to handle composite primary keys yet though... |
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| 06:47 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 06:49 | dcook | Hmm, I wonder if "primary" functions that way... |
| 06:49 | I bet it does... | |
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| 06:50 | dcook | As it's the only constraint obviously defined in the ResultSet... |
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| 06:58 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:58 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
| 07:01 | ashimema | Good morning #koha |
| 07:02 | cait | good morning ashimema :) |
| 07:02 | ashimema | hi cait |
| 07:02 | hi dcook | |
| 07:02 | dcook | heya ashimema |
| 07:02 | wahanui | ashimema is on qa now .) |
| 07:03 | dcook | Did you see the epic comments of mine? :p |
| 07:03 | In regards to that QP OpacSuppression bug that is | |
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| 07:04 | * dcook | figures there might be epic-length comments elsewhere as well... |
| 07:04 | cait | i did |
| 07:04 | ashimema | was just about to go take a look |
| 07:04 | cait | does it translate to: it's fixable? |
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| 07:04 | dcook | cait: very easily |
| 07:04 | ashimema's patch was just about there | |
| 07:04 | But instead of ($query) -suppress:1 | |
| 07:04 | ashimema | it's been a busy weekend of tidying the house so the computer has been unplugged |
| 07:04 | dcook | It should be ($query) && -(suppress:1) |
| 07:04 | ashimema: I hear that...we're having a lot of out of town guests this week | |
| 07:04 | ashimema | oh.. cool. |
| 07:05 | dcook | Alternatively, it could be... |
| 07:05 | ($query) && -suppress:-"1" | |
| 07:05 | I believe | |
| 07:05 | ashimema | will have a play with the code some time today then assuming I get a restbite of more than five minutes at any point ;) |
| 07:05 | dcook | Hehe. Fair enough. |
| 07:05 | * dcook | has been playing with frameworks today |
| 07:05 | ashimema | did you get on ok with dbic.. |
| 07:06 | dcook | Surprisingly so yeah |
| 07:06 | ashimema | I saw your comment above about primary keys.. |
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| 07:06 | dcook | Turns out using key => "primary" did the trick |
| 07:06 | ashimema | so far they've worked ok for me in my limited use.. including a couple of cases of composite keys. |
| 07:06 | dcook | Or at least it seemed to... |
| 07:06 | ashimema | fantastic. |
| 07:06 | dcook | I had a bad experience using Dbic with Letters.pm, but... |
| 07:07 | That was a bit of an exceptional case | |
| 07:07 | ashimema | I have to admit, I'm still a tad baffled as to koha's use of dbic. |
| 07:07 | dcook | Honestly, I haven't really touched it much before today |
| 07:07 | ashimema | shoe horning it in feels like it's made it more complicated than it needs to be. |
| 07:07 | dcook | Hmm |
| 07:07 | cait | shoe horning? |
| 07:07 | aah | |
| 07:07 | dcook | After reading through the documentation today, it seemed like it was implemented ok? |
| 07:08 | But I haven't really checked through toom uch | |
| 07:08 | cait | i think kyle has been working on moving some modules over |
| 07:08 | maybe a good start to take a look | |
| 07:09 | ashimema | I've not really seen it in use much.. but the couple of cases I saw seems to add some random boilerplate.. |
| 07:09 | but then, maybe I was looking at bad exmaples ;) | |
| 07:10 | cait, 'shoe horn' - to force something to fit, even though it doesn't naturally go in the gap. | |
| 07:10 | cait | thx :) |
| 07:11 | Joubu | Good morning |
| 07:11 | ashimema | ack.. I have a customer here that thinks authentication should just happen by magic |
| 07:11 | dcook | morning, Joubu |
| 07:12 | ashimema | they can't agree to send me anythign form or attribute to match upon.. |
| 07:12 | dcook | ashimema: I'm trying to think of something to clever to say in response to that but I got nothing |
| 07:12 | That sucks :/ | |
| 07:12 | ashimema | wow.. that last one was so full of typo's it barely makes any sense |
| 07:13 | brain moving fater than fingers again.. 'any form of attribute' vs 'anything to' | |
| 07:13 | you get the drift though ;) | |
| 07:14 | dcook | I really really do |
| 07:14 | ashimema | anywho, enough public ranting for me for one day ;) |
| 07:15 | I'm gonna take a look through your comments over breakfast dcook.. :) | |
| 07:15 | let's show horn that in ;) | |
| 07:16 | dcook | If that's enough public ranting, you might want to skip those comments :p |
| 07:17 | Then again, if you want a somewhat in-depth look at PQF queries, please read :) | |
| 07:17 | cait | i don't understand them, but i was very impressed ;) |
| 07:17 | dcook | I'm thinking about writing up a wiki page with the synthesis of what I read.. |
| 07:17 | wrote..not read | |
| 07:17 | Hehe. Well, I'm glad you were impressed, cait :) | |
| 07:17 | Hopefully I can write out an explanation that will make sense to folks. | |
| 07:18 | ashimema | That would be super usefull dcook.. |
| 07:18 | dcook | :) |
| 07:18 | ashimema | understanding zebra queries has been somthing on my list to learn for ages.. |
| 07:18 | at the moment they fit into the black magic category | |
| 07:18 | dcook | Yeah, it used to freak me out, and then I just dove into it |
| 07:18 | dove? dived? | |
| 07:18 | Well, I'll try to explain away the black magic :) | |
| 07:19 | * dcook | wonders why his wife isn't calling him about dinner plans... |
| 07:20 | cait | heh |
| 07:20 | ashimema | lol |
| 07:21 | you've certainly spent some time with it.. | |
| 07:21 | wow those comments are enlightening.. somewhat confusing at times.. but enlightening too ;) | |
| 07:21 | dcook | I imagine the stream of consciousness is confusing, but I was hoping that folks might see my thought process as I go and find it enlightening |
| 07:22 | cait | i prefer too many comments to not enough |
| 07:22 | and too many... i think you didn't reach that yet :) | |
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| 07:27 | ashimema | wow.. |
| 07:27 | Just got to the end of your comments.. | |
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| 07:28 | ashimema | I'm impressed by the lengths you went to to prove the syntax.. |
| 07:28 | thanks.. | |
| 07:28 | that's an early version of the patch I had.. it's nice to know I wasn't as far off as I'de thought.. | |
| 07:29 | I'de ended up trying a whole host of other solutions which all failed.. like passing in the supression before the build query.. and varouse other things.. | |
| 07:29 | thanks dcook.. | |
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| 07:30 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:35 | dcook | no worries, ashimema :) |
| 07:35 | Yeah, I'm a bit impressed by the lengths I went to as well, haha | |
| 07:36 | That night you told me about the problem, I was annoyed that I couldn't figure out the solution from the docs... | |
| 07:36 | But then I realized that a few simple tests would easily prove it | |
| 07:36 | * dcook | literally added records "A","B","C","D", and "E" to a Koha database |
| 07:36 | dcook | hey, gaetan_B :) |
| 07:36 | cait: I prefer too many to too few as well :) | |
| 07:37 | * dcook | has confirmation on dinner plans! |
| 07:37 | ashimema | There is one bit I'm still a tad confused by though |
| 07:37 | I think i've got muddled somehow with regards to when a query should and shouldn't be ccl vs pqf.. | |
| 07:38 | you seemed to do an about turn on the 'we'll need to do a regex to see if it's pqf' bit? | |
| 07:43 | dcook | Ah, yeah |
| 07:44 | Apparently when buildQuery creates a pqf query, it returns "pqf" | |
| 07:44 | In $query_lang or something like that | |
| 07:44 | Ordinarily, when it's our badly parsed query, that variable is empty | |
| 07:48 | But gotta run for dinner | |
| 07:48 | :) | |
| 07:48 | ashimema: PM me if you have any more questions :) | |
| 07:48 | ashimema | So.. in my patch, I use the QP variable to work out whether to append the opacsurpession stuff before or after the buildquery statement.. then I add it one way before and a different way after. |
| 07:49 | I'm wondering if that's still the right way to go about it.. | |
| 07:49 | dcook | Oooo right |
| 07:49 | ashimema | (it's gonna be a hack with the curent state whatever ;) ) |
| 07:49 | nietherof us has to time to re-rwite search right now ;) | |
| 07:49 | dcook | I suppose I'd probably not use your patch actually :/ |
| 07:49 | ashimema | that's what I thought :) |
| 07:49 | dcook | I'd probably do a new one and use that return value from buildQuery to see if it's pqf or not |
| 07:50 | Then hack it before it goes to getRecords | |
| 07:50 | ashimema | That makes sense. |
| 07:50 | dcook | But gotta run! Have a good day/night/time of day! |
| 07:50 | night all | |
| 07:50 | wahanui | goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
| 07:50 | ashimema | night mate.. have a good one. |
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| 08:21 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 08:24 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 08:24 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 08:25 | cait | i am looking for someone being able to test ldap or sip... could I persuade you to take on one of those? |
| 08:25 | also someone giving the CAS patch another try, as I am failing miserably | |
| 08:26 | ashimema? :) talking to you too! :) | |
| 08:26 | marcelr | :) |
| 08:26 | ashimema | Hi cait.. |
| 08:27 | I can try to fit one in.. a tad busy at the moment :( | |
| 08:27 | Is there anything public to test against CAS wise? | |
| 08:27 | cait | biblibre has provided a test server |
| 08:27 | ashimema | we've never used it here. |
| 08:27 | cait | if you drop matthias an email i think he can give you the certificate and data |
| 08:27 | ashimema | i'll have aread of the patch first. |
| 08:27 | cait | matts around? |
| 08:28 | matts | cait, around |
| 08:28 | cait | matts: i am trying to find another tester for CAS - I think i am stuck with it |
| 08:29 | and maybe it's something in my setip | |
| 08:29 | setup | |
| 08:29 | matts | yes, if someone drops me an email, I'll be glad to transfer the certificate and instructions |
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| 08:57 | cait | Joubu++ thx for fixing 12323 |
| 09:15 | hm someone biblibre around? | |
| 09:15 | Joubu? | |
| 09:15 | wahanui | Joubu is not his irc name? |
| 09:16 | cait | forget Joubu |
| 09:16 | wahanui | cait: I forgot joubu |
| 09:19 | Joubu | cait: yep |
| 09:19 | I have seen your pm | |
| 09:20 | cait | ok :) |
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| 09:32 | jajm | cait, I sent a follow up to bug 7162 for (Y)/(N) removal, should I change bug status ? |
| 09:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7162 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Factorize code for order cancellation |
| 09:34 | cait | jajm: hm, it's not yet pushed, i will try to take a look tonight |
| 09:34 | shoudl be small enough for a qa follow up | |
| 09:34 | jajm | ok, thanks |
| 09:34 | cait | switch to signed off? i will reset when tested? |
| 09:35 | jajm | ok changed to signed off |
| 09:35 | cait | ah i see not just changed the strings |
| 09:35 | what does the onclick="window.location='[% referrer %]';return false;" / do? | |
| 09:36 | asking to make it quicker :) | |
| 09:38 | jajm | cait, i changed only the strings, the onclick attribute makes you go back to the previous page when you click on "No" |
| 09:39 | cait | cool, shoudl be quick |
| 09:39 | just has to wait for tonight | |
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| 11:38 | * cait | waves |
| 11:42 | cait | gmcharlt: ping? |
| 11:42 | wahanui | Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-ab[…]oks/dp/0448421658 |
| 11:50 | cait | tcohen: ping? |
| 11:50 | wahanui | Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-ab[…]oks/dp/0448421658 |
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| 12:34 | tcohen | morning ! |
| 12:34 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
| 12:34 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 9.8°C (9:30 AM ART on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:35 | cait | good morning tcohen... |
| 12:35 | and he already left again? :) | |
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| 12:38 | tcohen | QA people, you're going too fast, my queue is filling fast :-P |
| 12:38 | qa++ | |
| 12:39 | cait | heh, it's our job! |
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| 12:43 | gerundio | hi |
| 12:43 | wahanui | hello, gerundio |
| 12:44 | gerundio | any koha-auth expert around? |
| 12:44 | I've having a hard time linking auth and biblio records for a given authority type | |
| 12:47 | can't really figure out why author records matching is failing | |
| 12:50 | http://paste.koha-community.org/108 | |
| 12:51 | I've managed to index other 2 authority types which seemed more complex for starters | |
| 12:51 | these one seems pretty straightforward but somehow is failling | |
| 12:52 | I've performed several tests and have been trying to work with a single AUT record | |
| 12:52 | as shown in the paste above | |
| 12:53 | no matter what I do I always get the "WARNING: authority not found" for each of the records of this authority type | |
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| 14:08 | tcohen | Joubu: around? |
| 14:09 | Joubu | tcohen: completly annoyed, but around yes |
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| 14:29 | lovetruth | hello |
| 14:29 | I installed koha as root | |
| 14:29 | and got this error | |
| 14:29 | http://scsys.co.uk:8002/408991 | |
| 14:29 | here's DBI.pm http://scsys.co.uk:8002/408993 | |
| 14:29 | and 2064 line http://scsys.co.uk:8002/408994 | |
| 14:30 | cait | lovetruth: have you run the webinstaller yet? |
| 14:34 | lovetruth | should I just reinstall it?... |
| 14:34 | I have the error on opening the web page | |
| 14:34 | jcamins | lovetruth: when you say you installed Koha as root, what do you mean? |
| 14:34 | lovetruth | I meant I gave all commands as root |
| 14:34 | su | |
| 14:34 | and then all the rest | |
| 14:34 | jcamins | What commands? |
| 14:34 | wahanui | commands are the one that i posted above |
| 14:34 | lovetruth | using http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD |
| 14:34 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 14:34 | What I would recommend is following the instructions for installing Koha using packages. | |
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| 14:46 | lovetruth | jcamins, I've used cpan and cpanm |
| 14:46 | jcamins | In that case, I can't give you any advice, sorry. |
| 14:46 | I just haven't worked on a system set up that way in far too long to be comfortable telling you what you should do. | |
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| 15:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:13 | cait | @later tell bgkriegel there is something weird with our po files and poedit - it claims there is an untranslated string ineach file... which i can't find :( maybe a bug in poedit? |
| 15:13 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:15 | cait | hm i think i definitely missed the right moment ot leave... |
| 15:15 | ... RAIN. | |
| 15:16 | lots of it | |
| 15:36 | Joubu | Someone tried to apply 11911 on sandbox 1. It's not possible, there is no patch applied on the bug report. |
| 15:36 | s/11911/11944 | |
| 15:36 | to test 11944, please use sandbox 6 and 16 | |
| 15:40 | see you | |
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| 15:56 | cbrannon | Is there a meeting going on? |
| 15:57 | barton: are you in? | |
| 15:58 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 15:58 | barton | yes! |
| 15:59 | cbrannon | barton, do you know if there is a problem with printing under the new opac bootstrap theme? |
| 15:59 | barton | not that I'm aware of ... |
| 16:00 | cbrannon | I've tried it from IE and FF, and when I try to print the search results page, I see a whole mess of odd links. Can you confirm? |
| 16:01 | barton | sure. Is there a particular URL that you're trying to print? |
| 16:01 | or is it anything on in the OPAC? | |
| 16:01 | cbrannon | nope. Just search for something. When you get results on the opac (bootstrap theme), print the page. |
| 16:01 | I seems like anything. And it could be more than just the results. | |
| 16:03 | Looks like the links are printed, even if I print the home page on the OPAC. | |
| 16:05 | barton | cbrannon -- yeah, now that I print that out, it does look familiar... |
| 16:05 | I think that there's a bug open for that; lemme see if I can find it. | |
| 16:06 | cbrannon | I couldn't find any bugs listed, but maybe I'm not searching correctly. |
| 16:07 | barton | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12073 |
| 16:07 | huginn | 04Bug 12073: minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , OPAC detail page printing show links URL |
| 16:08 | cbrannon | Thanks. I'll put in a request for that patch. |
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| 16:37 | lovetruth | hello |
| 16:37 | wahanui | hola, lovetruth |
| 16:37 | lovetruth | I'm trying to install koha |
| 16:37 | Xubuntu 12.04 | |
| 16:37 | x64 | |
| 16:37 | a2ensite library | |
| 16:38 | keeps telling me ERROR: Site library does not exist! | |
| 16:38 | c'mon!... | |
| 16:39 | so?... | |
| 16:41 | cait | did you create the instance first? |
| 16:41 | lovetruth | what do you mean?... |
| 16:41 | --create-db? | |
| 16:42 | cait | koha-create --create-db library |
| 16:42 | lovetruth | yes |
| 16:42 | created it | |
| 16:42 | removed it | |
| 16:42 | created it again | |
| 16:42 | cait | you shouldn't need to do the a2ensite bit i think |
| 16:42 | it should do it itself | |
| 16:42 | lovetruth | (removed with koha-remove library) |
| 16:42 | then why it does not exist?... | |
| 16:43 | cait | andit's probably library.conf |
| 16:43 | maybe | |
| 16:43 | not sure | |
| 16:43 | lovetruth | then I should just continue along?... |
| 16:43 | cait | you could check your sited-enabled sites-available |
| 16:43 | have you checked yet if you can access it? | |
| 16:43 | lovetruth | you mean the apache/sites-available |
| 16:43 | cait | yes |
| 16:43 | lovetruth | I'm doing everything as root |
| 16:43 | cait | for packages that's alright |
| 16:44 | lovetruth | :/etc# ls apache2/sites-available/ |
| 16:44 | gives default default-ssl library.conf | |
| 16:44 | cait | loooksok then |
| 16:44 | you might want to turn off the default | |
| 16:44 | lovetruth | although library.conf is empty |
| 16:44 | cait | a2dissite defaut i think |
| 16:44 | hmi thnmk it's a symlink | |
| 16:45 | lovetruth | -rw-r----- 1 root library-koha 0 Jul 21 19:32 library.conf |
| 16:45 | that from ls -l | |
| 16:45 | cait | i can't really check right now |
| 16:46 | lovetruth | well it's not, at my pc |
| 16:46 | it should be ?... | |
| 16:46 | cait | did you set up the sites.conf? after the koha-create if that went right, you should be able to access your installatio |
| 16:46 | i amo | |
| 16:46 | sorry | |
| 16:46 | maybe i got the file name a bit wrong, there is a conf file on how the instances should be created | |
| 16:46 | if you are running koha not on 80 only, you might also want to add the other ports to your apache config | |
| 16:48 | lovetruth | library.conf is emtpy |
| 16:48 | empty* | |
| 16:48 | cait | i amnot sure whatwentwrong |
| 16:48 | maybe try creating an instance with another name for testing | |
| 16:48 | it should set up everything automatically | |
| 16:48 | packages? | |
| 16:48 | wahanui | packages is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 16:58 | lovetruth | how can I clean reinstall?? |
| 17:00 | cait | i guess you can remove the packages and readd them, but i am not sure if that will remove all files of the already created instance |
| 17:00 | lovetruth | sorry, but quite stupid setup has this koha... for now, at least, then... :) |
| 17:04 | cait | once you figured it out, it will be very easy next time |
| 17:04 | i think your problem might be having tried a normal instance first | |
| 17:04 | so you expect to have to do things differently mybe | |
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| 17:25 | pianohacker | yo |
| 17:26 | cait | yo pianohacker |
| 17:26 | pianohacker | hey cait :) |
| 17:26 | cait | how are things? |
| 17:27 | pianohacker | Good! Just working now for the next month before I head back to grad school, so life is much less chaotic |
| 17:27 | you? | |
| 17:27 | cait | so flood of patches soon? :) |
| 17:27 | bit stressed as always,lots to do, not nearly enough time in a day :) | |
| 17:28 | ashimema | evening pianohacker |
| 17:29 | pianohacker | hi ashimema! |
| 17:29 | cait: besides a patch for bug 11211 (is that the right one?) | |
| 17:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar |
| 17:30 | pianohacker | (yes, it is) I've been more busy with support work |
| 17:30 | cait | pianohacker: i was hoping rancorupdate :) |
| 17:30 | time is running you know,... tick tick... 3.18 :) | |
| 17:31 | pianohacker | don't worry, that's on the docket |
| 17:34 | lovetruth | ok, managed to the web installer |
| 17:34 | but can't login | |
| 17:34 | what can I do?... | |
| 17:35 | cait | there is a command you can run to find out the password |
| 17:35 | packages? | |
| 17:35 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 17:35 | cait | look for password there |
| 17:36 | lovetruth | yes, it gave me some girbish |
| 17:36 | cait | this user is only for creating you ar eal user and for running updates |
| 17:36 | the gibberisch is probably the password | |
| 17:36 | the login name will be | |
| 17:36 | hm library_koha or koha_library | |
| 17:36 | i always confuse those | |
| 17:37 | koha_instancename | |
| 17:37 | lovetruth | i've chosen differently. my instance name is koha |
| 17:37 | cait | hm guess it's koha_koha then |
| 17:37 | lovetruth | but koha_koha with the gibberisch didn't work |
| 17:38 | cait | did you check the xml file directly? |
| 17:39 | lovetruth | yes |
| 17:39 | where it should be? | |
| 17:40 | cait | /etc/koha/sites/instancename/koha-conf.xml |
| 17:40 | you are looking for the db_user | |
| 17:40 | lovetruth | looked and found some koha_koha |
| 17:41 | it's <user>koha_koha</user> | |
| 17:41 | cait | and the passwort gibberish? |
| 17:41 | lovetruth | and <pass> under |
| 17:41 | yes | |
| 17:41 | but doesn't work | |
| 17:41 | cait | hm that shuld work then |
| 17:41 | lovetruth | what can I do?... |
| 17:42 | cait | check if there is more than one koha_koha appearing |
| 17:42 | lovetruth | only one |
| 17:42 | cait | hm that should work then |
| 17:42 | lovetruth | actually there is <database>koha_koha |
| 17:42 | and <user>koha_koha | |
| 17:42 | but only one user | |
| 17:43 | how can I fix it? | |
| 17:44 | cait | i think the xml file looks correct |
| 17:44 | i am not sure what went wrong | |
| 17:44 | could it be you are actually seeing the web installer for an ealrier created instance? | |
| 17:45 | is there another instance maybe? | |
| 17:45 | lovetruth | i don't think so |
| 17:45 | removed everything and reinstalled | |
| 17:45 | and it didn't work | |
| 17:45 | but after installing this, it worked | |
| 17:45 | how can I check? | |
| 17:45 | cait | i think there woudl be another directory |
| 17:45 | with a xml file then | |
| 17:47 | lovetruth | I'll catfish it |
| 17:47 | search in all pc | |
| 17:47 | tcohen | hi |
| 17:55 | cait | hi tcohen |
| 17:55 | tcohen: do you knwo any reason the database password for an instance wouldn't work? | |
| 17:56 | lovetruth | you were right, cait :) |
| 17:57 | cait | oh? |
| 17:57 | lovetruth | had a previous koha-conf.xml file :) |
| 17:57 | worked with that :) | |
| 17:57 | I assume I can delete the other conf xml file? | |
| 17:59 | cait | i'd keep it for now |
| 17:59 | being a bit careful with deleting :) | |
| 17:59 | jcamins | lovetruth: you should be looking at the file in /etc/koha/sites/koha/ . If that is not the case, that's bad. |
| 17:59 | I wouldn't delete anything, however. | |
| 18:01 | lovetruth | jcamins, that is the point |
| 18:01 | the password from there didn't work | |
| 18:01 | but the one from /etc/koha | |
| 18:01 | and on /etc/koha was the previous install | |
| 18:01 | which didn't work... and reinstalled it | |
| 18:02 | jcamins | lovetruth: in that case, you're not using the installation the packages did, and I would anticipate everything being broken. |
| 18:02 | lovetruth | and now works with this new installation, but... strangely... it uses that conf.xml file |
| 18:02 | cait | i think maybe by installing the packaging dependencies |
| 18:02 | jcamins | Probably in somewhat subtle ways. |
| 18:02 | cait | you fixed your problem with the non pakace install |
| 18:02 | lovetruth | jcamins, I installed using some http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD |
| 18:02 | and used cpan and cpanm to install it | |
| 18:03 | fixed all dependencies | |
| 18:03 | jcamins | lovetruth: oh, I thought you were switching to using a package install. |
| 18:03 | cait | jcamins: he was... |
| 18:03 | lovetruth | but gave some error on some code on DBI.pm |
| 18:03 | so I decided to remove everything | |
| 18:03 | and install using apt-get and so on | |
| 18:03 | jcamins | As long as you're aware that you don't have a package installation, you're good. |
| 18:03 | cait: ah, so, not good at all. | |
| 18:04 | * jcamins | shares some fruit salad. |
| 18:04 | lovetruth | so installed koha-common and koha stuff there in synaptic |
| 18:04 | cait | heh thx |
| 18:04 | i tihnk you are looking at the wrong urls for the package install now | |
| 18:04 | lovetruth | and used some ubuntu 12 precise tutorial for koha install using apt-get |
| 18:04 | cait | what url are you looking at for the web installer? |
| 18:05 | lovetruth | standard koha:8080 |
| 18:05 | jcamins | You used a tutorial other than the one at: |
| 18:05 | packages? | |
| 18:05 | wahanui | i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 18:05 | cait | lovetruth: yeah, that looks not like a package url if you didn't change the standard settings i think |
| 18:06 | lovetruth | well, it was some other site, but it contained kinda same thing |
| 18:06 | I chose the standard settings | |
| 18:06 | jcamins | Yikes. I hope this isn't a production install. |
| 18:06 | cait | what does your /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf look like? |
| 18:07 | lovetruth | well, it's http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD |
| 18:07 | cait, what do you mean? | |
| 18:07 | cait | did you change the file and what does it look like? |
| 18:07 | it's the file that has the necessary settings for creating an install and what the urls should look like | |
| 18:07 | lovetruth | I didn't manually change anything in it |
| 18:08 | -rw-r----- 1 root www-data 6411 Jul 21 20:25 koha-conf.xml | |
| 18:10 | cait | if you look at the file |
| 18:10 | you see it's used to tell koha what urls will be used for opac and staff | |
| 18:10 | the default will not work well on localhost i think | |
| 18:10 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e7f7ac426786896f8 | |
| 18:11 | lovetruth | ah, modified the koha-sites.conf |
| 18:11 | I did modified that :) | |
| 18:11 | modify* :) | |
| 18:11 | thanks | |
| 18:11 | cait | the ones with intra should tell you how to access your instance |
| 18:11 | lovetruth | does it have Romanian?... |
| 18:12 | can I add language?... | |
| 18:14 | Koha version: 3.16.01.000 | |
| 18:14 | cait | translations? |
| 18:14 | wahanui | hmmm... translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
| 18:14 | cait | you can look up there how much of a language for a version is translated |
| 18:15 | lovetruth | Readonly::XS Not Installed |
| 18:15 | should I manually install it? | |
| 18:15 | using what, cpan? | |
| 18:16 | cait | which OS are you installing on? |
| 18:16 | lovetruth | xubuntu 12.04 |
| 18:16 | x64 | |
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| 18:19 | cait | hm |
| 18:20 | normally you don't need to cpan things, it shoudl be there from installing the packages | |
| 18:20 | but not sure about xubuntu | |
| 18:21 | lovetruth | xubuntu is ubuntu with sort of xfce interface |
| 18:22 | tcohen | cait: should we add to the dev meeting that we are moving to dancer? |
| 18:23 | cait | oh i thought we were moving to python |
| 18:23 | tcohen | http://www.perldancer.org/ |
| 18:23 | every1 agreed actually: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]4-07-18#i_1538097 | |
| 18:28 | * wajasu | i experimented in writing koha in golang. would think that is a feasable option someday. |
| 18:35 | pianohacker | tcohen: I'm working on dealing with a massive JS chunk that is slowing page loads in Rancor |
| 18:35 | tcohen: and https://metacpan.org/release/CGI-Compress-Gzip is the easiest way I've found to deal with it. The downside is it has no package. Is that a problem? | |
| 18:35 | tcohen | you should contact eythian |
| 18:37 | cait | hm maybe also oleonard could have an idea? |
| 18:37 | tcohen | pianohacker: isn't that gracefuly handled by Apache? |
| 18:37 | cait | compress and gzip. thought i had heard that before |
| 18:38 | pianohacker | tcohen: this is dynamically generated JS (framework dump) so I don't think it does so atm |
| 18:38 | maybe the config could be changed for it to do so | |
| 18:39 | tcohen | it seems to me that the headers might be wrongly sent |
| 18:39 | have you checked on browser debuggers | |
| 18:39 | if it is already compressed? | |
| 18:40 | on the other hand, contact eythian for adding new packages to the repo | |
| 18:40 | pianohacker | kk will do |
| 18:40 | * tcohen | is checking the package builds in precise |
| 18:41 | jcamins | Let's rewrite Koha in JAVA! |
| 18:41 | cait | lol |
| 18:41 | you are late! | |
| 18:41 | jcamins | And by "'s" I mean "you guys." |
| 18:42 | * tcohen | likes troll-mode jcamins |
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| 18:46 | jcamins | Dyrcona told me how to get into it. Meta-control-t. |
| 18:46 | tcohen++ | |
| 18:48 | Dyrcona | I thought it was <Escape> : troll-mode ? ;) |
| 18:50 | tcohen | Dyrcona: Ctrl-k t in Sublime |
| 18:51 | Dyrcona | Meta-X now-i-have-carpal-tunnel-syndrome |
| 18:54 | tcohen | heh |
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| 19:03 | bgkriegel | Hi all |
| 19:04 | cait: no problem for me with poedit and de-DE 3.16/4/2 files, all 100% translated | |
| 19:04 | cait | bgkriegel: yeah it's totally weird :( |
| 19:04 | bgkriegel: thx for checking! I requested an update of my poedit version (can't install on my windows work computer myself) | |
| 19:04 | will see if that fixes it | |
| 19:05 | bgkriegel | just downloaded and open all of them |
| 19:05 | cait | yeah did the same, it was really weird, consistently on all files and all versions (3.12, 3.14, 3.16) |
| 19:05 | always one untranslated line | |
| 19:05 | bgkriegel | mmm... |
| 19:06 | cait | i will see tomorrow with a newer poedit version |
| 19:08 | phasefx2 | hey folks, I have a debian squeeze system that was running 3.12.. I added deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main and got it up to 3.13, and I thought that running koha-upgrade-schema would get it to 3.16, but that command isn't doing anything. Am I missing something? I could purge it all and reinstall; there's no critical data there |
| 19:08 | tcohen | you mean 3.14? |
| 19:09 | phasefx2 | the installed package is 3.16.01 |
| 19:09 | koha-common | |
| 19:09 | wahanui | koha-common is probably the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance) |
| 19:09 | phasefx2 | so I think my pain is going from stock debian to community repo |
| 19:10 | tcohen | could you do apt-cache policy koha-common and paste the output? |
| 19:10 | phasefx2 | so that's probably it, koha-upgrade-schema is expecting a multi-instance layout? |
| 19:11 | koha-common: Installed: 3.16.01 Candidate: 3.16.01 Version table: *** 3.16.01 0 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | |
| 19:12 | about.pl is telling me 3.13.00.008 | |
| 19:13 | hrmm.. this was also a git-based install at one point.. oy | |
| 19:15 | pastebot | "bgkriegel" at 200.16.31.6 pasted "cait: output from pofilter searching for untranslated strings (3.16/14/12)" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/109 |
| 19:15 | bgkriegel | cait: running files using pofilter, no one untranslated |
| 19:15 | * phasefx2 | is just going to purge and reinstall.. thanks folks :) |
| 19:17 | tcohen | hey, while Carrie is around, now "Cristina" apeeared |
| 19:20 | * wajasu | doing a 3.16.1 install now |
| 19:23 | tcohen | pianohacker: it seems to build smoothly |
| 19:24 | pianohacker | woot thanks tcohen |
| 19:24 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 19:28 | cait | @later tell bgkriegel - thx for double checking! i guess it' sreally something with my poedit version |
| 19:28 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:28 | cait | bgkriegel++ |
| 19:28 | tcohen++ | |
| 19:29 | @later tell tcohen we want to use the RESTful API for ILL, but it's not in production yet, I think we can adapt - cleaner APIs are good | |
| 19:32 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:46 | rangi | morning |
| 19:48 | pianohacker | hi rangi |
| 19:48 | cait | morning rangi |
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| 20:28 | kathryn | hi cait :) |
| 20:28 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
| 20:39 | rhcl | Well, I thought it was funny. |
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| 21:17 | pianohacker | rhcl: ? |
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| 21:52 | eythian | hi |
| 21:52 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 21:55 | jburds_ | Does anyone use Google Analytics to track searching on their OPAC? |
| 21:55 | cait | one could |
| 21:55 | rangi | piwik works better |
| 21:55 | jburds_ | Trying to figure out the best way to show usage |
| 21:56 | rangi | and respects privacy a lot more |
| 21:56 | cait | jburds_: here it would be a big privacy problem |
| 21:56 | rangi | http://piwik.org/ |
| 22:01 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11347 - PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove opacsmallimage system-preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a9a50b5350819c1f1> / Bug 12519 - Convert OPAC list download pop-up to modal dialog <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a35323a0a9ea03a58> |
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| 22:30 | eythian | @later tell pianohacker https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=755541 |
| 22:30 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:30 | eythian | oh, you're actually here. |
| 22:30 | pianohacker: ^^ | |
| 22:30 | pianohacker | hi eythian |
| 22:30 | eythian | subscribe to that and you'll get dibs when it comes out. |
| 22:30 | I won't put it into the Koha repo until it's acctually needed, that place is messy enough as is. | |
| 22:30 | pianohacker | eythian++ |
| 22:30 | you rock man | |
| 22:31 | I think at this point I owe you not a pint but a growler :P | |
| 22:31 | rangi | hoping to get the others that arent in, before the next stable release anyway .. hopefully so we can clean up the koha repo |
| 22:31 | * eythian | needs to overhaul the package building process for dependencies |
| 22:32 | eythian | yeah, quite a few are in there, but I need to identify all those that aren't. |
| 22:32 | rangi | *nod* |
| 22:32 | be cool if we could do something like the entropy tracker | |
| 22:32 | http://pet.debian.net/pkg-perl/pet.cgi | |
| 22:32 | but just for the ones we care about | |
| 22:33 | eythian | https://qa.debian.org/develope[…]n@catalyst.net.nz <-- not quite the same thing, but... :) |
| 22:33 | rangi | yep |
| 22:33 | https://qa.debian.org/develope[…]40catalyst.net.nz | |
| 22:33 | combine those 2 and we get most of them | |
| 22:34 | oh you can | |
| 22:35 | eythian | I should do some updates on some of my ones that have new upstreams |
| 22:35 | rangi | https://qa.debian.org/develope[…]et.nz&comaint=yes |
| 22:36 | hmm or maybe not | |
| 22:36 | https://qa.debian.org/developer.php | |
| 22:36 | it says you can | |
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| 23:44 | dcook | Ooo, excited about the DataTables Colvis stuff... |
| 23:44 | * dcook | actually hasn't looked but really wants to be able to hide columns easily... |
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