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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | dcook | Ahh, nevermind. I think I gotcha. |
| 00:00 | Rather than using the syspref as a switch, yeah? | |
| 00:01 | eythian | yeah. |
| 00:01 | Though, that syspref isn't currently a very good switch | |
| 00:01 | I need to do something about that. | |
| 00:02 | I'm sorta faking it at the moment, but that's not ideal. | |
| 00:02 | dcook | Faking it? |
| 00:02 | eythian | have a look near the top of opac-search.pl |
| 00:03 | I need to get it to the point where you don't even know what search engine you're using. | |
| 00:05 | dcook | (Huh, I didn't know for/when was a thing) |
| 00:06 | eythian | yeah, pretend it's not |
| 00:07 | dcook | Hmm, so do you mean about loading modules that you may or may not need? |
| 00:07 | eythian | yeah |
| 00:07 | so, you should just ask for Koha::SearchEngine::QueryBuilder and get the right thing | |
| 00:07 | there is stuff for that there now, but it's incomplete. | |
| 00:08 | dcook | Mmm, agreed |
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| 00:11 | dcook | Hmm, I'm beginning to think CCL2RPN doesn't actually understand "*" or "?" |
| 00:11 | http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/d[…]ee_8c_source.html | |
| 00:11 | Yay open source... | |
| 00:12 | And with reason... | |
| 00:12 | @truncation in ccl.properties looks like it's been totally made up as a thing | |
| 00:12 | huginn | dcook: downloading the Perl source |
| 00:12 | dcook | Sorry, little rant there |
| 00:12 | eythian: Yeah, Koha::SearchEngine::QueryBuilder would be great | |
| 00:13 | * dcook | did notice that removing * and ? didn't seem to have an effect when using rtrn anyway... |
| 00:14 | dcook | I suppose it's still possible @truncation is a thing in a different file.. |
| 00:17 | Damn google and not being able to search special characters | |
| 00:20 | * dcook | should re-read the CCL syntax... |
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| 00:21 | dcook | Ah, Indexdata's website says truncation is a CCL directive... |
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| 00:23 | dcook | Ah ha |
| 00:23 | Wait..nvm.. | |
| 00:31 | * dcook | has also been thinking about writing up Zebra search tips for Koha |
| 00:31 | dcook | Something that is user accessible |
| 00:31 | Or at least staff accessible | |
| 00:32 | * dcook | doesn't think the manual is necessarily 100% correct |
| 00:32 | dcook | And I doubt many people use it when they're trying to remember how to do a search in Koha |
| 00:50 | Hmm, tests say that adding "?" or "*" to a query doesn't do a damn thing when using Zebra | |
| 00:50 | Hmm, unless.. | |
| 00:50 | wahanui | hmmm... unless is probably meant to give code that reads more like natural language? but i'm not a fan either |
| 00:50 | dcook | Yep, not a damn thing I can see |
| 00:51 | Have to have "rtrn"... | |
| 00:51 | wrdl,rtrn="profession?" will return the same as wrdl,rtrn="profession" | |
| 00:52 | I think truncation characters might only factor in when using special truncation attribute combos... | |
| 00:55 | Hmm maybe not enough testing to be sure though.. | |
| 00:58 | * wizzyrea | is really grateful for her flat white right now |
| 00:58 | wizzyrea | because it's cold as outside |
| 00:58 | eythian | dcook: that's all very mysterious. |
| 01:00 | dcook | eythian: Certainly badly documented |
| 01:06 | In fact, I think the documentation might be plain wrong | |
| 01:06 | Mmm then again.. | |
| 01:10 | http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/d[…]nd_8c_source.html | |
| 01:10 | suggests that there can be truncation aliases.. | |
| 01:10 | Just like it says here: http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/tools.html#CCL | |
| 01:14 | Ahhh | |
| 01:14 | There's a bug | |
| 01:14 | --- 4.2.21 2011/11/23 | |
| 01:14 | Fix cql_sortby_to_sortkeys. Completely broken before. | |
| 01:14 | Make CCL's @truncation work again. | |
| 01:14 | I'm on 4.2.13... | |
| 01:15 | IE and Zebra | |
| 01:15 | Why do I do such things...:p | |
| 01:16 | eythian | wahanui: dcook is the designated masochist |
| 01:16 | wahanui | ...but dcook is missing part of that original link due to a smiley face that comes up in dcook's IRC client|currently out of line.... |
| 01:16 | eythian | wahanui: dcook is also the designated masochist |
| 01:16 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 01:19 | dcook | It looks like Wheezy's packaged version is 4.2.30, so people using packages should be OK |
| 01:19 | Not in Squeeze though | |
| 01:20 | As Squeeze uses 4.0.11-1 | |
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| 01:51 | dcook | Apparently you can't use truncation wildcards within double quotes |
| 01:51 | Well, you can, but they apparently are treated as regular text and not wildcards... | |
| 01:52 | eythian | I would expect that |
| 01:52 | dcook | yaz-client plus "querytype ccl2rpn" and "set_cclfile /koha/etc/zebradb/ccl.properties" = no Koha crap |
| 01:53 | eythian: Naturally | |
| 01:53 | You can use them as truncation wildcards within parentheses though | |
| 01:53 | eythian | http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloga[…]tion-history?bffb |
| 01:53 | I would also expect that. | |
| 01:56 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:57 | eythian | http://imgur.com/a/KBWIf <-- the weather took a turn around lunch time |
| 02:01 | dcook | Oh my.. |
| 02:08 | rangi | next time someone asks me about NCIP |
| 02:08 | they'll get this | |
| 02:08 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTg8lisw2gM | |
| 02:09 | dcook | 'find rltrn="?fess?"' = expected result |
| 02:10 | 'find rltrn=?fess?' = CCL ERROR: Both left - and right truncation not supported | |
| 02:10 | O_O | |
| 02:14 | eythian | it's probably a lot more expensive to do that |
| 02:19 | dcook | Oh totally |
| 02:19 | It takes ages | |
| 02:24 | Actually...not so much | |
| 02:24 | It did the first time I tried in Koha but that might've been unrelated | |
| 02:29 | Hmm, I think I'm getting an idea... | |
| 02:30 | wizzyrea | look out. |
| 02:30 | dcook | :p |
| 02:30 | Yeah, maybe | |
| 02:30 | It's just that buildQuery works really stupidly | |
| 02:30 | Ahh, wait, idea no good...damn | |
| 02:31 | Well...for a basic search it might work.. | |
| 02:31 | Except stemming | |
| 02:31 | Mmm, maybe even stemming.. | |
| 02:33 | eythian | dcook: just move to elasticsearch |
| 02:35 | wizzyrea | be eythian |
| 02:35 | wahanui | Sod it all, let's head to the pub! |
| 02:35 | wizzyrea | be eythian is also <reply> just move to elasticsearch |
| 02:35 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 02:41 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on July 02, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | feels colder than that. |
| 02:41 | eythian | you're inside. |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | when I was outside, it felt colder than that. |
| 02:41 | :P | |
| 02:42 | rangi | metservice says it feels like 3 |
| 02:42 | and is 6.7 | |
| 02:45 | wizzyrea | that seems closer to what I experienced |
| 02:46 | dcook | eythian: I suspect ElasticSearch will have problems with the query building as well |
| 02:46 | But we'll see :) | |
| 02:46 | eythian | dcook: oh yeah? |
| 02:47 | it's more or less a shim to allow compatibility with the existing code. | |
| 02:48 | dcook | Yeah, and the existing code sucks :p |
| 02:48 | I wonder a bit about stemming and weight fields.. | |
| 02:48 | Autotruncation | |
| 02:49 | As that will require parsing the query, modifying it, then stitching it back together again | |
| 02:49 | eythian | yeah, I havne't really implemented those yet. |
| 02:49 | dcook | Don't know if weight fields is even possible with ES although I don't really mind that |
| 02:49 | * dcook | doesn't care for weight fields all that much |
| 02:50 | eythian | I'm pretty sure it is possible. |
| 02:50 | there's definitely some facility for it. | |
| 02:50 | dcook | Cool :) |
| 02:55 | Hmm, looks like .mailmap didn't merge my usernames together on GitStats :/ | |
| 03:15 | Always nice when you need to change something on Gitolite but haven't used it in ages :p | |
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| 04:06 | eythian | If I have an 'edition' field, where would I put that in MARC? |
| 04:07 | 250$a | |
| 04:08 | dcook | Yep |
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| 05:20 | * cait | waves |
| 05:37 | * dcook | waves to cait |
| 05:51 | cait | hi dcook :) |
| 05:52 | looks like i missed this morning's search discussion? :) | |
| 05:52 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 05:52 | dcook | I guess so |
| 05:52 | cait | how is wednesday? |
| 05:54 | dcook | Mmm, experimental |
| 05:56 | cait | how can a day be experimental? |
| 05:56 | dcook | I've been trying a lot of things with CCL and QueryParser |
| 05:58 | cait | hm wonder how mine will turn out then :) |
| 05:58 | dcook | Hopefully better than mine :p |
| 05:59 | Well, I guess I've learned a lot... | |
| 06:07 | cait | shoudl i send a reminder about today's (for you tomorrow's) dev meeting? |
| 06:08 | dcook | I thought that was already done? |
| 06:08 | Or did I get my days screwed up? | |
| 06:09 | cait | the meeting? |
| 06:09 | wahanui | hmmm... the meeting is on wednesday? |
| 06:09 | cait | july 2nd |
| 06:09 | or the reminder? | |
| 06:10 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting,_2_July_2014 | |
| 06:10 | dcook | It is july 2nd today for me O_o |
| 06:10 | Or is it supposed to be my july 3rd? | |
| 06:15 | Oh right... I guess it would be 8am for me tomorrow | |
| 06:15 | I might be there on my phone... | |
| 06:15 | * dcook | doesn't start work until 9, but might try to get in early.. |
| 06:16 | cait | i sent something |
| 06:32 | hm gah | |
| 06:32 | found a bug i think | |
| 06:32 | dcook | Surprise! :D |
| 06:33 | cait | hm yeah |
| 06:33 | the partial receive status is not properly given on updating an older database | |
| 06:33 | i know i tested this and it worked at some point | |
| 06:33 | bit frustrating | |
| 06:38 | dcook | :( |
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| 06:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:40 | cait | hi reiveune |
| 06:41 | dcook: it could be worse | |
| 06:41 | :) | |
| 06:41 | reiveune | hi cait dcook |
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| 06:59 | cait | Joubu: rollover is done :) |
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| 07:05 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:15 | dcook | Hmm, I might actually have a bit of a plan for buildQuery now... |
| 07:15 | Might just need to keep batting away at it until I find the right solution... | |
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| 07:16 | dcook | Need to run! |
| 07:16 | au revoir, tous | |
| 07:22 | Joubu | hello |
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| 07:35 | cait | mornign #koha |
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| 07:45 | cait | good morning biblibre :) |
| 07:48 | Joubu: around? | |
| 07:48 | Joubu | cait: yep |
| 07:49 | cait | could you maybe apply the new 2 patches from kyle to the sandbox? |
| 07:49 | the database still seems to have the test configuration from yesterday | |
| 07:49 | it was number 7 | |
| 07:51 | Joubu | cait: yep |
| 07:51 | cait: in 10min | |
| 07:51 | cait | cool |
| 07:51 | thx! | |
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| 08:07 | cait | Joubu: ping me when it's done? |
| 08:18 | Joubu | cait: done ;) |
| 08:20 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 08:24 | Joubu: my tests look good, letting the library know | |
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| 09:13 | cait | Joubu: library tested ok :) going to sign off the 2 patches in the name of the librarian |
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| 10:29 | khall | cait++ |
| 10:33 | cait | library++ :) |
| 10:33 | i only helped | |
| 10:33 | lunch bbl! | |
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| 11:46 | Racoo | Please help, when I create new catalogue entries, I often find I get a 'double' entry, so that I end up with a biblio record with holdings, and one without. I then have to go back and delete the extra entry, otherwise it shows up on catalogue searches as having 'no items' which is confusing for people using the catalogue. When I add an item it duplicates too. When the network slows this problem happens. How can I stop duplication |
| 11:46 | cait | do you double click by chance? |
| 11:46 | i think it might happen because of your network issues | |
| 11:47 | not sure that can be sovled within koha | |
| 11:48 | Racoo | no dont click double |
| 11:48 | when the system is busy it creates dublications | |
| 11:48 | both in biblios and holdings | |
| 11:49 | it may be beause of zebra | |
| 11:49 | indexing | |
| 11:49 | wahanui | hmmm... indexing is done by Zebra. |
| 11:49 | Racoo | how can we solve it?? |
| 11:50 | it is a big problem | |
| 11:54 | when the network is busy, it gives "Internal server error" but the biblio or the holding record is created, but sometimes 1 record sometimes 2 or more than 2 duplications are created. than we have to delete all the duplications, it is a huge lost time :( | |
| 11:57 | csharp | Racoo: sounds like you need a professional to come evaluate your network setup... there are ways to throttle bandwidth via free/open source programs like pfsense |
| 11:58 | (but that's beyond the scope of #koha ;-)) | |
| 11:59 | Racoo | cant it be solved programaticaly |
| 11:59 | ? | |
| 12:00 | csharp | Racoo: a web-based program like koha needs a healthy network connection - no way around that |
| 12:01 | cait | do you hit refresh? |
| 12:02 | it could be it sends the request again - and then that might cause the duplicate | |
| 12:02 | zebra is unlikely, if the duplicate only existed in the index, you couldn#t delete it | |
| 12:02 | csharp | we see similar behavior in Evergreen when the network is congested and/or insufficient |
| 12:04 | Racoo | When we hit the refresh button or press f5 it creates duplications, but without refreshing the page by hitting refresh button or press f5 unfortunately it again creates duplications. |
| 12:05 | cait | Racoo: you mean that if you don't refresh or use the browser back button, there are still duplicates being created? |
| 12:06 | Racoo | yes |
| 12:06 | this duplications especialy occur when the network is slow. | |
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| 12:06 | cait | i am sorry, i think csharp is right then |
| 12:06 | there is not much you can do without fixing the network | |
| 12:07 | francharb | good morning! |
| 12:07 | cait | hi francharb :) |
| 12:07 | francharb | o/ cait |
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| 12:18 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 12:18 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 8.0°C (9:00 AM ART on July 02, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:18 | tcohen | buen día #koha |
| 12:19 | oleonard | Hi everyone |
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| 12:32 | oleonard | MARC preview not working in the latest Manage staged MARC records interface |
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| 12:53 | bgkriegel | Hi |
| 12:59 | tcohen | hi bgkriegel |
| 13:02 | bgkriegel | Hi To+ |
| 13:07 | cait | hi bgkriegel and tcohen :) |
| 13:07 | bgkriegel | hi cait :) |
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| 13:38 | Joubu | cait: what are the shortcuts for tab navigation? |
| 13:38 | cait | Joubu: for testing - click on the checkouts tab (to get the focus), then use arrow right keys |
| 13:38 | Joubu | ok, right/left |
| 13:38 | yep, thanks | |
| 13:38 | cait | according to thelibrarian actually tab shoudl work and woudl work better, but this seems the way it works now |
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| 14:20 | tcohen | oleonard: have you used Photobooth.js? |
| 14:21 | oleonard | No |
| 14:21 | Interesting. | |
| 14:21 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 14:22 | tcohen | I was thining of adding that to the patron details page |
| 14:22 | upload/take picture | |
| 14:23 | it could be combined with https://github.com/addyosmani/getUserMedia.js | |
| 14:23 | for a flash fallback if the browser doesn't provide the API | |
| 14:24 | oleonard | tcohen: On the staff side or OPAC? |
| 14:24 | tcohen | I was thinking on both |
| 14:25 | oleonard | If a library wanted accurate photos of their patrons I would think they would not want to trust photos received through the OPAC, but I guess that's a choice they could make. |
| 14:26 | If a system like that were added to the OPAC it ought to be combined with the pending patron modifications system | |
| 14:28 | tcohen | yes |
| 14:28 | A library asked me to implement that for the staff interface | |
| 14:28 | and i thought of a syspref-driven feature for the OPAC too | |
| 14:29 | oleonard | There's even an existing bug for that: Bug 6815 |
| 14:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kohapatch, ASSIGNED , Capture member photo via webcam |
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| 14:34 | tcohen | thanks oleonard for the pointer |
| 14:50 | druthb | @seen talljoy |
| 14:50 | huginn | druthb: talljoy was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 11 minutes, and 1 second ago: <talljoy> no problem! |
| 14:50 | druthb | ! |
| 14:50 | @seen meliss | |
| 14:50 | huginn | druthb: meliss was last seen in #koha 7 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 44 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <meliss> #info Melissa Lefebvre, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:50 | druthb | whoa. |
| 14:51 | cait | hm weird |
| 14:54 | meeting in 5! | |
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| 14:59 | tcohen | meeting in 1! |
| 14:59 | cait | ok peeps |
| 14:59 | hehe exactly! | |
| 14:59 | get ready, get coffee... but be fast! | |
| 15:00 | ... | |
| 15:00 | #startmeeting Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 1 | |
| 15:00 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jul 2 15:00:47 2014 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 15:00 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 1) | |
| 15:00 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'koha_irc_developer_meeting__july_2nd__part_1' |
| 15:00 | cait | #topic Introductions |
| 15:00 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 15:00 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 1) | |
| 15:01 | cait | please introduce yourself with #info |
| 15:01 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany, QAM | |
| 15:01 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries |
| 15:01 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart, BibLibre |
| 15:01 | yohann1 | #info Yohann Dufour, BibLibre |
| 15:01 | gmcharlt | #info Galen Charlton, Equinox |
| 15:01 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Universidad Nacional de Córdoba |
| 15:01 | jwagner | #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
| 15:01 | oleonard | Welcome back gmcharlt |
| 15:01 | bgkriegel | #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Córdoba Argentina |
| 15:01 | tcohen | wb gmcharlt |
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| 15:01 | gmcharlt | thx |
| 15:02 | cait | today's agenda |
| 15:02 | wahanui | today's agenda is probably on the wiki |
| 15:02 | cait | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting,_2_July_2014 |
| 15:02 | 3... 2.... | |
| 15:02 | 1... :) | |
| 15:02 | #topic RM 3.18 comments | |
| 15:02 | Topic for #koha is now RM 3.18 comments (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 1) | |
| 15:02 | cait | handing over to tcohen |
| 15:03 | tcohen | hi |
| 15:03 | some brief comments | |
| 15:03 | Jenkins tasks for running unit tests have been changed/updated | |
| 15:04 | they now test all maintained branches (/plus master) on ubuntu 12.4, 14.04 and debian 6 & 7 | |
| 15:04 | the launching scripts might need to be improved | |
| 15:04 | and feedback will be welcome | |
| 15:04 | cait | #info Jenkins tasks have been changed/updated |
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| 15:05 | JesseM | #info Jesse Maseto, ByWater |
| 15:05 | tcohen | There are still pending issues with Perl 5.18 |
| 15:05 | that jenkins shows | |
| 15:05 | Joubu | Where can we found launching scripts? |
| 15:05 | tcohen | (on master) |
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| 15:05 | tcohen | Joubu: those scripts are in the task configuration form in jenkins |
| 15:05 | ztajoli | #info Zeno Tajoli, CINECA |
| 15:05 | tcohen | its a shell script, that is written inside the form |
| 15:06 | any ideas, please let me know | |
| 15:06 | ok, next | |
| 15:06 | barton | #info barton, bywater |
| 15:07 | tcohen | The "Koha Community" Trello organization is being used for openly establishing priorities and work that needs to be done |
| 15:07 | anyone that wants to take a look, please let me know | |
| 15:07 | newbie | #info Christopher - about to implement koha |
| 15:07 | tcohen | we've set a board for having a list of pending dev meetings topics |
| 15:07 | cait | welcome newbie |
| 15:08 | tcohen | and I'm about to set a new one, for dcook to use in his effort to have better Zebra code |
| 15:08 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 15:08 | gmcharlt | #info Koha Community org on Trello can be found at https://trello.com/kohadevel |
| 15:09 | tcohen | heh, was about to post the same |
| 15:09 | cait | #info Let tcohen know if you want to take a look at the Trello board for Koha Release Management |
| 15:09 | ah, now we overlapped gmcharlt :) | |
| 15:09 | thx! | |
| 15:09 | tcohen | the QAM also set a QA board |
| 15:09 | ok | |
| 15:09 | cait | hm kind of - i am still testing trello mostly right now :) |
| 15:10 | so nothing official currently | |
| 15:10 | tcohen | don't be shy |
| 15:10 | :-P | |
| 15:10 | cait | :) |
| 15:10 | tcohen | moving on, i wanted to mention |
| 15:10 | cait | next topic? |
| 15:10 | tcohen | that i'm about to push bug 9811 |
| 15:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Patrons search improvements |
| 15:10 | tcohen | and now that bug 11703 is passed-qa, i'm considering it for pushing it soon |
| 15:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable |
| 15:11 | tcohen | any comments or concerns please let me know |
| 15:11 | cait | khall++ for fixing some issues with IE and accessiblity f |
| 15:11 | tcohen | ok next |
| 15:11 | cait | #topic Additions to coding guidelines |
| 15:11 | Topic for #koha is now Additions to coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 1) | |
| 15:12 | cait | #link http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/040456.html |
| 15:12 | there has been a mailing list discussion a while ago about deprecating the non-XSLT views | |
| 15:12 | tcohen | is there a bug for removing that? |
| 15:12 | cait | not yet |
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| 15:13 | fridolin2 | hie all |
| 15:13 | cait | but the question has come up on a bug, if a new feature needs to be added to non-XSLT as well |
| 15:13 | oleonard | gmcharlt: Any response to you from users on this issue? |
| 15:13 | cait | i think maybe a first step could be to not maintain them officially |
| 15:13 | gmcharlt | oleonard: none |
| 15:14 | cait | hm ok |
| 15:14 | ztajoli | Stefano Bargione tries to finda and XSLT to display ISBD (MARC21 format) |
| 15:14 | cait | i think i spotted a possible problem: |
| 15:15 | HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC HighlightOwnItemsOnOPACWhich says it's non-xslt only | |
| 15:15 | ztajoli | sorry Stefano Bargioni |
| 15:15 | gmcharlt | we can deal with that as bugs |
| 15:15 | one to deprecate, and another with those two sysprefs as a blocker to the first | |
| 15:15 | cait | gmcharlt: with which? |
| 15:15 | not sure if there are more, just did a quick search in the pref editor | |
| 15:15 | gmcharlt | yeah, there could be otehrs |
| 15:15 | cait | a lot of features seem to be xslt only |
| 15:16 | what about a deprecation warning? no longer maintain them, add new features only to XSLT? | |
| 15:16 | gmcharlt | +1 |
| 15:17 | tcohen | +1 |
| 15:17 | ztajoli | +1 |
| 15:17 | cait | gmcharlt: could you maybe write smething for the coding guidelines about that? |
| 15:17 | tcohen | btw, do we have a test for not-used sysprefs? |
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| 15:17 | cait | tcohen: not that i am aware of |
| 15:17 | wahanui | i already had it that way, cait. |
| 15:18 | cait | #idea add a deprecation warning - non-XSLT officially no longer maintained, new features will only be added to XSLT |
| 15:18 | tcohen | ./t/db_dependent/check_sysprefs.t |
| 15:18 | khall | +1 |
| 15:18 | oleonard | And non-XSLT is officially gone when? |
| 15:18 | tcohen | 4.0? |
| 15:18 | wahanui | 4.0 is pbly at least a year from now, if not more, so PostgreSQL support in it seem reasonable and doable. |
| 15:19 | cait | #action identify XSLT-only features and file bugs for those |
| 15:19 | khall | question: what kind of performance difference do we see between the two? |
| 15:19 | gmcharlt | wahanui: forget 4.0 |
| 15:19 | wahanui | gmcharlt: I forgot 4.0 |
| 15:19 | khall | considering we only process the visible results, the difference is probably not too great |
| 15:19 | cait | can i add an agreed on the idea? |
| 15:19 | gmcharlt | khall: I think somebody tested recently |
| 15:19 | they're similar | |
| 15:19 | cait | without calling another vote? |
| 15:19 | khall | agreed |
| 15:19 | tcohen | agreed |
| 15:20 | ztajoli | +1 |
| 15:20 | gmcharlt | cait: and others - http://paste.lisp.org/display/143068 |
| 15:20 | thoughts on the suggested wording? | |
| 15:20 | cait | #agreed add a deprecation warning to coding guidelines |
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| 15:20 | tcohen | its fine gmcharlt |
| 15:21 | cait | hm missing a don't I think? |
| 15:21 | in the first sentence of the second paragraph | |
| 15:21 | gmcharlt | cait: "need not" |
| 15:21 | cait | oh |
| 15:21 | sorry :) | |
| 15:21 | gmcharlt | but I can change it to "don't need to be" if that's cleerer |
| 15:22 | tcohen | its ok |
| 15:22 | cait | let's make this quick as we have more topics - anyone wnats to veto? :) |
| 15:23 | #info suggested coding guideline http://paste.lisp.org/display/143068 | |
| 15:23 | moving on to bugs? | |
| 15:23 | tcohen | +1 |
| 15:23 | barton | +1 |
| 15:23 | cait | and +1 for the wording from me :) |
| 15:23 | #topic Bugs | |
| 15:23 | Topic for #koha is now Bugs (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 1) | |
| 15:24 | cait | removal of C4/Maintenance.pm |
| 15:24 | bug 12456 | |
| 15:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12456 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Passed QA , The file C4/Maintainance.pm can be removed |
| 15:24 | tcohen | start a vote? |
| 15:24 | cait | as far as I understand it, it's quite an old part of the code, for features no longer present |
| 15:24 | sadly :) | |
| 15:24 | gmcharlt | from my POV, it can go |
| 15:25 | cait | gmcharlt: how do i start the vote? |
| 15:25 | gmcharlt | git keeps the history, in case somebody wants a reference to reimplement deletion-undo |
| 15:25 | cait | #vote Remove of C4/Maintenance, yes = remove |
| 15:25 | gmcharlt | cait: #startvote -- although to be frank, I'm not sure that this is worth calling a vote for |
| 15:25 | tcohen | yes |
| 15:25 | khall | yes |
| 15:26 | gmcharlt | but anyway, +1 to removing it |
| 15:26 | yohann1 | yes |
| 15:26 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 15:26 | oleonard | yes |
| 15:26 | ztajoli | +1 |
| 15:26 | cait | gmcharlt: true, just vote quickly and let's move on |
| 15:26 | yes | |
| 15:26 | ok | |
| 15:26 | bgkriegel | yes |
| 15:26 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:26 | cait | #agreed C4/Maintanance will be removed (bug 12456) |
| 15:26 | next one is similar | |
| 15:26 | Removal of misc/cronjobs/rss/rss.pl uses HTP - Bug 9000 | |
| 15:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , misc/cronjobs/rss/rss.pl uses HTP |
| 15:27 | tcohen | I didn't get any feedback on rss.pl |
| 15:27 | besides mtompset's question | |
| 15:27 | cait | unlike Maintenance.pm is still somewhat functional when you have HTP installed |
| 15:27 | gmcharlt | has it been asked on the general mailing list whether anybody is using it? |
| 15:27 | tcohen | it seems that it could serve for having heavy-loading rss precalculated |
| 15:27 | cait | but the rss xml files generated are not translated and thre are probably other problems as well |
| 15:28 | tcohen | its been asked on the dev list |
| 15:28 | cait | hm i think tcohen send something |
| 15:28 | gmcharlt | I suggest that we ask again - i can tweet - and if we don't hear back in a couple weeks, assume nobody's using it and remove it |
| 15:28 | tcohen | should we hold it back, and ask again? |
| 15:28 | that | |
| 15:29 | cait | ok |
| 15:29 | who asks? | |
| 15:29 | tcohen | i will |
| 15:29 | ashimema | I asked the question to my collegues.. |
| 15:29 | tcohen | to the public list this time |
| 15:29 | * oleonard | finds it hard to believe anyone is using it |
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| 15:29 | cait | #action tcohen will ask on the mailing list if someone still uses misc/cronjobs/rss/rss.pl (bug 9000) |
| 15:29 | ashimema | many have still been using it recent;y.. but they're happy to switch to the search based rss if you can get the same functionailty out of it.. |
| 15:29 | * ashimema | has never played with it personally. |
| 15:30 | ashimema | "we'll cope" was their general response. |
| 15:30 | cait | next ist an update on the UTF-8 clean up |
| 15:30 | ashimema | sorry for being late.. just catching up now |
| 15:30 | tcohen | great ashimema |
| 15:31 | gmcharlt | so, re UTF-8 |
| 15:31 | tcohen | Joubu worked hard on that |
| 15:31 | cait | Joubu++ :) |
| 15:31 | ztajoli | ++ |
| 15:31 | gmcharlt | by tomorrow I'll be calling a date in July for a GBSD focused on it |
| 15:31 | ashimema | Joubu++ |
| 15:31 | gmcharlt | and completing my review some time over the weekend |
| 15:31 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
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| 15:31 | cait | also gmcharlt++ for the review |
| 15:32 | #action gmcharlt to call a date in July for a GBSD focused on UTF-8 clean-up (bug 11944) | |
| 15:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 15:32 | tcohen | i'd like to say |
| 15:32 | cait | #info gmcharlt is also currently reviewing the feature and remaining issues |
| 15:32 | tcohen | that i'd like to push the important bits sooner than later |
| 15:33 | Joubu | gmcharlt: did you manage to write some tests? |
| 15:33 | tcohen | those that set the correct way to cope with data encoding/decoding |
| 15:33 | gmcharlt | Joubu: still working on it; not much chance to code during the ALA conference |
| 15:33 | tcohen | (e.g. CGI using -utf8) |
| 15:33 | Joubu | k |
| 15:34 | cait | we have a normal meeting next week i think |
| 15:34 | we can then talk again about the gbsd maybe? | |
| 15:34 | tcohen | hmm, this not anormal |
| 15:34 | gmcharlt | :) |
| 15:34 | cait: sure | |
| 15:35 | tcohen | cait: agreed |
| 15:35 | ztajoli | Ok, for CINECA july is a good month for 11944 |
| 15:35 | cait | #action cait to put UTF-8 GBSD on next weeks meeting agenda |
| 15:35 | next is removal of prog/CCSR themes | |
| 15:35 | decision has been made, now we need to get it done :) | |
| 15:36 | tcohen | has anyone appointed to start sending patches on this? |
| 15:36 | cait: the topic | |
| 15:36 | cait | tcohen: we are still in bugs |
| 15:36 | tcohen | :) |
| 15:37 | ok, volunteers? oleonard? | |
| 15:37 | cait | #info Removal of prog/CCSR themes (bug 11346) - looking for volunteers |
| 15:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11346 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Deprecate the PROG and CCSR themes |
| 15:37 | Joubu | I am volunteer to SO on it :) |
| 15:37 | tcohen | ok, I can delete that stuff |
| 15:37 | will be sending patches soon | |
| 15:37 | oleonard | Sorry, I was afk |
| 15:38 | tcohen | if anyone wants to help, let me know |
| 15:38 | oleonard | I have started submitting patches already, will continue. |
| 15:38 | tcohen | oh, great! |
| 15:38 | cait | :) |
| 15:38 | bgkriegel | there are five patches from oleonard removing related sysprefs |
| 15:38 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 15:38 | tcohen | oleonard++ |
| 15:38 | gmcharlt | oleonard++ |
| 15:38 | cait | #action oleonard is going to send patches for removing the deprecated prog/CCSR themes |
| 15:38 | ashimema | oleonard++ |
| 15:39 | oleonard | I'm not sure how we should handle the upgrade process for users of prog |
| 15:39 | cait | i think we might have to put in a database update |
| 15:39 | switching the pref | |
| 15:39 | tcohen | moving them to bootstrap |
| 15:39 | cait | that will keep their opacs functional |
| 15:40 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 15:40 | cait | and also a big red note in the release notes? |
| 15:40 | khall | why not remove the pref altogether? |
| 15:40 | cait | khall: because you can create templates |
| 15:40 | tcohen | khall: we agreed people might have their own templates |
| 15:41 | khall | which is generally a terrible idea |
| 15:41 | cait | khall: not necessarily |
| 15:41 | gmcharlt | khall: who's to say that if the library is comfortable doing it? |
| 15:41 | oleonard | We let people do all sorts of things which are terrible ideas :) |
| 15:41 | gmcharlt | cait: see also bug 12233 |
| 15:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, REOPENED , remove prog and CCSR OPAC themes |
| 15:41 | cait | khall: and look at ccsr - you can just have your own template file for one thing and fall back to standard theme for the rest |
| 15:41 | khall | cait: yeah, I just thought of that. |
| 15:42 | cait | i haven't used it yet... but it seems like something that might be useful for some |
| 15:42 | :) | |
| 15:42 | * khall | has dealt with custom templates and didn't enjoy the experience |
| 15:42 | cait | ok, anything more? |
| 15:43 | next is the removal of C4/SQLHelper | |
| 15:43 | yohann1 has send some patches to achieve that | |
| 15:43 | yohann++ | |
| 15:43 | ashimema | yohann++ |
| 15:44 | Joubu | Yes, the patches are interesting, but he needs some feedbacks to continue |
| 15:44 | see the mail on the list | |
| 15:44 | cait | #info some patches for removing SQLHelper from the code base are ready for testing/feedback, see http://lists.koha-community.or[…]-June/040594.html |
| 15:44 | Joubu | There are at leats 4 others modules to update |
| 15:44 | ashimema | I was about to say that Joubu.. do any dbic pros want to comment on the bug please.. i'm no pro so not in a position to ;) |
| 15:44 | cait | also yohann++ for improving our test coverage :) |
| 15:45 | gmcharlt | yohann++ |
| 15:45 | khall | yohann++ indeed |
| 15:46 | cait | can someone give me something for an #action? :) |
| 15:46 | khall | I'm am completely for increased use of dbic |
| 15:46 | ashimema | me too ;) |
| 15:47 | cait | hehe those are nice but not #actions |
| 15:47 | ashimema | though using it in the koha context is still baffling me a tad. |
| 15:47 | cait | i guess that's the problem here |
| 15:47 | ashimema | cait, someone needs to step up and give yohann some feedback.. |
| 15:47 | khall | I will |
| 15:47 | ashimema | yeay.. action on khall ;) |
| 15:47 | cait | yay |
| 15:47 | ashimema | nice one khall++ |
| 15:47 | cait | #action khall to give yohann feedback on his patches |
| 15:47 | Joubu | khall: thanks |
| 15:48 | yohann1 | khall: thanks you :) |
| 15:48 | khall | np! |
| 15:48 | cait | ok |
| 15:48 | runing a bit low on time... next one :) | |
| 15:48 | tcohen | yohann1++ |
| 15:48 | cait | Better ways to manage MARC Frameworks - Bug 12477 |
| 15:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12477 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , We need better ways to manage MARC Frameworks |
| 15:48 | tcohen | bgkriegel? |
| 15:48 | wahanui | bgkriegel is on a signoff spree |
| 15:48 | cait | bgkriegel: do you want to take over? |
| 15:48 | yohann1 left #koha | |
| 15:49 | bgkriegel | what do you think on using xml for our data? |
| 15:49 | it will be easier to translate | |
| 15:49 | * khall | notices yohann uses HashRefInflator, excellent! |
| 15:50 | bgkriegel | i have some code for frameworks, and most sql files |
| 15:50 | tcohen | the idea is to have the sample data (for example) in XML format for easier translation tasks |
| 15:50 | cait | bgkriegel++ his work on making the frameworks translatable has been a great help in updating the German frameworks |
| 15:50 | bgkriegel | but dcook raised some questions on that bug, i think someone could comment |
| 15:50 | cait | it was sooo easy compared to the horror of translating them the first time |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | one approach might be to change the structure so that there's a concept of a derived framework |
| 15:52 | cait | gmcharlt: it hink we already have that now for authorities |
| 15:52 | well in sql | |
| 15:52 | but it seems to work nicely | |
| 15:52 | gmcharlt | right, but user-facing |
| 15:52 | i.e., the standard frameworks wouldn't be changed, but could be upgraded to meet the standard | |
| 15:53 | if somebody wants a customized one, they'd derive it from one of the standard ones | |
| 15:53 | and the custom ones wouldn't be touched during ugprades | |
| 15:54 | bgkriegel | no need for actions right now, but some ideas to work with, could be comments on 12477 |
| 15:54 | tcohen | +1 for the idea of having the data in XML for translation purposes |
| 15:54 | cait | #action all comment on bug 12477 with ideas about improving our MARC framework management |
| 15:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12477 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , We need better ways to manage MARC Frameworks |
| 15:55 | cait | we are running out of time, so i will hurry up a big |
| 15:55 | a bit | |
| 15:55 | #topic Testig of APIs, CAS... | |
| 15:55 | Topic for #koha is now Testig of APIs, CAS... (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 1) | |
| 15:55 | cait | api patches often seem to get stuck, because we have only very few testers for them |
| 15:56 | one reasn is that we don't have an LDAP or CAS to test against | |
| 15:56 | for the CAS patch paul_p has provided a login to a test server, so that should be possible to test now | |
| 15:56 | please, if you can test LDAP, SIP, CAS patches, do so, even if they are signed off already | |
| 15:56 | ashimema | it's not as easy as putting up a test ldap/cas/shibboleth server though unfortunately. |
| 15:57 | allot depends on the varying configurations.. | |
| 15:57 | tcohen | Z39.50 also |
| 15:57 | cait | i think a second sign off could help QA |
| 15:58 | #action all if you can, test LDAP, SIP and CAS patches or give them a second sign off! :) | |
| 15:58 | ok, that's it from me on the topic | |
| 15:58 | :) | |
| 15:59 | yes, z39.50 - but I think nothing in the qa queue currently - maybe in needs sign off | |
| 15:59 | #topic Big stuff we are working on | |
| 15:59 | Topic for #koha is now Big stuff we are working on (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 1) | |
| 16:00 | cait | any announcements?? |
| 16:00 | sorry, that shoudl have been only one ? | |
| 16:00 | Joubu | nothing new planned here. |
| 16:01 | ashimema | nadda here... to much other stuff on the plate |
| 16:01 | tcohen | I plan to work on TemaTres integration soon |
| 16:01 | will have a videoconference with its creator tomorrow morning | |
| 16:01 | cait | #info tcohen working on TemaTres integration soon |
| 16:01 | Joubu | Still waiting a signoff on batch moification records patches (bug 11395 and linked) |
| 16:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Batch modifications for records |
| 16:01 | tcohen | to complete the current RFC |
| 16:02 | cait | #info Joubu still waiting for a signoff on batch modification records - bug 11395 |
| 16:02 | khall? gmcharlt? | |
| 16:02 | tcohen | TemaTres author is willing to do whatever is needed to help integrating it to Koha |
| 16:02 | :-D | |
| 16:02 | gmcharlt | tcohen: TemaTest is what, briefly? |
| 16:02 | cait: yes, but not making promises yet as to when | |
| 16:02 | tcohen | TemaTres is a tool for managing thesaurus and controlled vocabularies |
| 16:03 | khall | I'll take a look |
| 16:03 | tcohen | it has a REST API |
| 16:04 | gmcharlt: http://www.vocabularyserver.com/ | |
| 16:04 | cait | #link http://www.vocabularyserver.com/ |
| 16:04 | Joubu | (have to go, bye) |
| 16:04 | gmcharlt | tcohen: neat! |
| 16:05 | tcohen | it implements the SKOS model |
| 16:05 | and there are several ways to integrate it | |
| 16:05 | that we will discuss soon :-D | |
| 16:05 | cait | :) |
| 16:05 | someone going to help me with finding a good time for the next meeting? | |
| 16:06 | gmcharlt | early August? |
| 16:06 | oleonard | August 6 starts the Koha North America conference |
| 16:06 | cait | i think tcohen had said something about 3 weeks |
| 16:06 | maybe 23rd? | |
| 16:07 | bgkriegel | July 23? 30? |
| 16:07 | tcohen | yes |
| 16:07 | ztajoli | fro me is better 23rd |
| 16:07 | tcohen | July 23rd |
| 16:07 | cait | #topic Set date of next meeting |
| 16:07 | Topic for #koha is now Set date of next meeting (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 1) | |
| 16:08 | gmcharlt | +1 23rd July |
| 16:08 | oleonard | +1 for July 23 |
| 16:08 | ashimema | +1 |
| 16:08 | bgkriegel | +1 |
| 16:08 | cait | #agreed next meeting, pending confirmation from second meeting today, will be 23rd July, 15 + 22 UTC |
| 16:09 | sorry for being a bit fast in the end | |
| 16:09 | tcohen | +1 |
| 16:09 | cait | but we are over by 10 minutes! heh :) |
| 16:09 | #endmeeting | |
| 16:09 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.1 is available! Next general meeting is 9 and 10 July 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
| 16:09 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jul 2 16:09:25 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 16:09 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-07-02-15.00.html | |
| 16:09 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]4-07-02-15.00.txt | |
| 16:09 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]02-15.00.log.html | |
| 16:09 | cait | thx everyone! |
| 16:09 | bgkriegel | cait++ |
| 16:09 | ztajoli | bye |
| 16:09 | gmcharlt | cait++ |
| 16:10 | tcohen | cait++ |
| 16:10 | ztajoli | cait ++ |
| 16:10 | newbie | It was great to watch :-) |
| 16:11 | goodbye | |
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| 17:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9811: Fix wording branch vs library <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9a94e71483950b4a0> / Bug 9811: Cardnumber could be alphanumeric <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]93953390cc229a0a7> / Bug 9811: Various fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f45634671bae0151b |
| 18:00 | tcohen | #koha: what is "Term" used for in course reserves? |
| 18:02 | cait | i think the term of the ... hm academic year? |
| 18:03 | but it's bad for translation | |
| 18:03 | tcohen | manual uses "Spring" as an example |
| 18:03 | cait | spring semester... maybe |
| 18:03 | spring course | |
| 18:03 | khall: ping? | |
| 18:03 | wahanui | Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-ab[…]oks/dp/0448421658 |
| 18:05 | oleonard | I think "term" is a less-specific word where "semester" and "quarter" imply a more specific duration, but all are basically the same thing |
| 18:07 | tcohen | thanks oleonard, cait |
| 18:10 | cait | oleonard: the problem with term is that it also means... something like word |
| 18:11 | so for translation... it's been a problem and it's wrong in our opac currently | |
| 18:11 | * oleonard | approaches the English Council of Terminology to petition a rule change |
| 18:11 | cait | thx :) |
| 18:12 | well... we still have jquery :) | |
| 18:15 | tcohen | and Pottle! |
| 18:22 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: BUG 12304: LDAP auto-provisioning set default messaging preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9515ede2ebdaf7646> / Bug 12456: The file C4/Maintainance.pm, and by extension the file t/Maintainance... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]67fca39323d4cbe80> / Bug 9811 [QA Followup] - Enable bProcessing <http://git.k |
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| 18:56 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12386 - 'Days in advance' pull down in bootstrap OPAC is huge <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]846b32d5bd2c01277> / Bug 8566: [SIGNED-OFF] Enable koha-foreach to insert the instancename into commands <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13654df0d7544695b> / ug 11857 - Number of patrons on a patron list not accurate |
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| 19:06 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12463 - Capitalization: Calendar tool, headings for different types of holidays <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7dcee548480eb9d1f> |
| 19:06 | cait | khall++ :) |
| 19:08 | tcohen | can anyone sign 12151? i bothers me a lot :-P |
| 19:11 | bye #koha | |
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| 19:53 | oleonard | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=7021#c14 |
| 19:53 | huginn | 04Bug 7021: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, ASSIGNED , patron category in the statistics table |
| 19:53 | oleonard | "lol" ? |
| 19:55 | rangi | morning |
| 19:56 | super helpful comment | |
| 19:58 | cait | maybe a typo/accidentally hitting sent |
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| 20:14 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
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| 20:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12485 - Show OPAC search history when opacuserlogin is OFF <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]25e518344e8f9aeda> |
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| 21:25 | wizzyrea | doh missed oleonard |
| 21:26 | bug 12151 | |
| 21:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12151 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , remove remaining uses of the Perl smartmatch operator |
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| 21:49 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 21:50 | cait | hola tcohen |
| 21:50 | eythian_ | hi |
| 21:53 | tcohen | dev meeting in 6 minutes! |
| 21:56 | eythian_ | all going well I may have to bail part way through. |
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| 22:01 | tcohen | #startmeeting Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 2 |
| 22:01 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jul 2 22:01:07 2014 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 22:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 22:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 2) | |
| 22:01 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'koha_irc_developer_meeting__july_2nd__part_2' |
| 22:01 | tcohen | #topic Introductions |
| 22:01 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 22:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 2) | |
| 22:01 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 22:01 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Universidad Nacional de Córdoba |
| 22:01 | eythian_ | #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, NZ |
| 22:02 | JesseM | #info Jesse Maseto, ByWater |
| 22:02 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater |
| 22:02 | rangi | #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst |
| 22:02 | tcohen | today we had a really long meeting |
| 22:03 | so, moving on :-D | |
| 22:03 | agenda: | |
| 22:03 | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting,_2_July_2014 | |
| 22:03 | #topic RM 3.18 comments | |
| 22:03 | Topic for #koha is now RM 3.18 comments (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 2) | |
| 22:04 | tcohen | I mentioned today that the jenkins tasks have been set to build and run tests for all stable branches |
| 22:04 | on ubuntu 12.04 & 14.04, and Debian 6 & 7 | |
| 22:04 | each one has its own DB | |
| 22:04 | tweaks might be needed to the launching scripts | |
| 22:04 | I ask everyone interested (specially RMaints) | |
| 22:05 | to take a look and let me know their suggestions or stuff that needs to be done | |
| 22:05 | #info Jenkins tasks have been changed/updated, feedback from RMaints and anyone interested is expected | |
| 22:06 | bgkriegel joined #koha | |
| 22:06 | tcohen | Also, we are exploring the use of Trello to coordinate more efforts on the development team |
| 22:07 | Katrin is experimenting for QA, I expect dcook to do it on for his Search code rethink/rewrite effort | |
| 22:07 | #info Koha Community org on Trello can be found at https://trello.com/kohadevel | |
| 22:07 | bgkriegel | #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Argentina & late |
| 22:08 | tcohen | #info anyone that wants to take a look at the Trello boards for Koha Community, just let tcohen know |
| 22:08 | also, I pushed my first "big patchset" (bug 9811) | |
| 22:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Patrons search improvements |
| 22:09 | tcohen | I'm excited, and expect to have feedback if something needs improvement |
| 22:09 | also, now bug 11703 is passed-qa, i'm considering it for pushing soon, tomorrow i'll be testing it too | |
| 22:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable |
| 22:10 | tcohen | questions on RM 3.8 comments? |
| 22:10 | s/\.8/\.18/ :-P | |
| 22:11 | ok, moving on? | |
| 22:12 | cait | yep |
| 22:12 | move on :) | |
| 22:13 | tcohen | Ah, I forgot to mention that the new jenkins setup made visible some problems, most notably Perl 5.18 related |
| 22:13 | anyone that wants to take a look is welcome | |
| 22:13 | ok, moving on | |
| 22:13 | #topic Additions to Coding Guidelines | |
| 22:13 | Topic for #koha is now Additions to Coding Guidelines (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 2) | |
| 22:14 | tcohen | it's been discussed that non-XSLT should be deprecated |
| 22:14 | #link http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/040456.html | |
| 22:14 | on the first part we discussed changing the coding guidelines to reflect that | |
| 22:15 | eythian_ | It'd be good to have a plan, like with prog->bootstrap |
| 22:15 | e.g. start making XSLT default, then in a couple of releases remove it. | |
| 22:15 | cait | xslt is already default :) |
| 22:15 | eythian_ | Just to ensure everyone has a heads up. |
| 22:15 | oh good :) | |
| 22:15 | cait | the next step would be identify features that are non-xslt only |
| 22:15 | it appears there is at least one | |
| 22:16 | tcohen | and sysprefs |
| 22:16 | wahanui | hmmm... sysprefs is one |
| 22:16 | cait | HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC HighlightOwnItemsOnOPACWhich |
| 22:16 | and gmcharlt has written up a suggested no coding guideline - http://paste.lisp.org/display/143068 | |
| 22:16 | hm new coding guideline... not no | |
| 22:17 | tcohen | #info suggested coding guideline by gmcharlt http://paste.lisp.org/display/143068 |
| 22:18 | do we agree on that addition to the coding guidelines? | |
| 22:18 | eythian_ | +1 |
| 22:18 | tcohen | the plan is to freeze non-XSLT related code during 3.18 |
| 22:18 | cait | +1 |
| 22:19 | adding no new features to non-xslt | |
| 22:19 | tcohen | +1 |
| 22:20 | agreed? | |
| 22:20 | #agreed add a deprecation warning to coding guidelines | |
| 22:20 | #topic Bugs | |
| 22:20 | Topic for #koha is now Bugs (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 2) | |
| 22:20 | tcohen | I mentioned two bugs that remove stuff |
| 22:21 | which are passed QA | |
| 22:21 | cait | Removal of C4/Maintainance.pm - Bug 12456 |
| 22:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12456 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Master , The file C4/Maintainance.pm can be removed |
| 22:21 | tcohen | bug 12456 (already on master) |
| 22:21 | cait | Removal of misc/cronjobs/rss/rss.pl uses HTP - Bug 9000 |
| 22:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , misc/cronjobs/rss/rss.pl uses HTP |
| 22:22 | tcohen | does anyone have any concern on removing rss.pl? |
| 22:22 | it depends on HTML Template Pro which is not even a dependency for us | |
| 22:22 | and we can always recover from git if needed | |
| 22:23 | eythian_ | yeah, if it's never used and won't even work, toss it. |
| 22:24 | tcohen | with cait we agreed earlier |
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| 22:24 | rangi | there are some people around the world using it, it will work fine if you installed koha a while ago and jsut kept on upgrading |
| 22:25 | tcohen | rss.pl? |
| 22:25 | rangi | so we would need to make it nice and clear in the release notes its being removed |
| 22:25 | yes | |
| 22:25 | asheima said so in the last meeting | |
| 22:25 | if you have html::template::pro installed, it works | |
| 22:25 | cbrannon | Is anyone aware of an item limit for bib records? |
| 22:25 | cait | it does |
| 22:25 | rangi | and if you installed koha pre 3.4.0 you will have |
| 22:25 | cait | it's not nice, but i tried it, untranslatable tho |
| 22:26 | rangi | so we will have to document its being removed and provide easy instructions for an alternative |
| 22:27 | cait | ashimema said at the last meeting he had checked with his coworkers and they 'would cope' |
| 22:27 | tcohen | ok, i'll send an email to the general list as we said in part 1 |
| 22:27 | rangi | yes, thats fine for those who have a support company |
| 22:27 | i still think we need to make it very clear in the release notes (not just an email to the list) | |
| 22:27 | cait | yes, so far it's just the only feedback from users we have |
| 22:27 | tcohen | maybe they are interested in improving it |
| 22:27 | rangi | im not against removing it |
| 22:27 | cait | gmcharlt has also asked again on twitter, we can do mailing list and release notes |
| 22:28 | rangi | just that it doesnt do the same thing as a saved search, so you will need to tell people how they can do the same thing |
| 22:28 | bag | hey cbrannon there is a meeting going on - but I think you are looking for this http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 |
| 22:28 | huginn | 04Bug 11096: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra |
| 22:28 | cbrannon | sorry |
| 22:28 | thanks | |
| 22:28 | tcohen | ok, we earlier agreed that there was no rush for it |
| 22:29 | and that a mail to the general list should be sent | |
| 22:29 | (i'll do it) | |
| 22:29 | asking people if they rely on that | |
| 22:29 | #action tcohen will ask on the mailing list if someone still uses misc/cronjobs/rss/rss.pl (bug 9000) | |
| 22:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , misc/cronjobs/rss/rss.pl uses HTP |
| 22:30 | tcohen | #info rangi asked that removal should imply a clear statement for the users to be aware of the removal |
| 22:31 | agreed on that path? | |
| 22:31 | rangi | yep |
| 22:31 | tcohen | so, next is |
| 22:32 | UTF-8 cleanup - Bug 11944 | |
| 22:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 22:32 | tcohen | Joubu worked hard on that. It is a tricky one |
| 22:32 | gmcharlt said he'll be reviewing that patch set | |
| 22:33 | we need as many eyes as possible on that one | |
| 22:34 | cait | #info gmcharlt will set a date for a gbsd for the utf-8 clean up |
| 22:35 | tcohen | #info cait will put the GBSD for UTF.8 cleanup in next general meeting's agenda |
| 22:35 | cait | oh right.. there was that |
| 22:35 | :) | |
| 22:36 | tcohen | next is removal of prog/CCSR themes |
| 22:36 | #info oleonard said he'll be working on patches for that | |
| 22:36 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 22:37 | tcohen | defaults need to be changed, sysprefs deleted, and so on |
| 22:37 | #info Removal of prog/CCSR themes (bug 11346) - oleonard will be working on those patches | |
| 22:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11346 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Deprecate the PROG and CCSR themes |
| 22:38 | rangi | oleonard++ |
| 22:38 | tcohen | one thing worth mentioning is that in will imply changing the opactheme syspref |
| 22:38 | syspref == ccsr || prog -> bootstrap | |
| 22:39 | rangi | yep |
| 22:39 | tcohen | next is the removal of C4/SQLHelper |
| 22:40 | #info yohann sent several patches to move C4::SQLHelper-dependent code to using DBIx | |
| 22:41 | khall_away offered to help him with that | |
| 22:41 | and they are talking on hte public list about that | |
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| 22:41 | tcohen | yohann++ |
| 22:42 | ok, moving on | |
| 22:42 | Better ways to manage MARC Frameworks - Bug 12477 | |
| 22:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12477 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , We need better ways to manage MARC Frameworks |
| 22:42 | tcohen | bgkriegel? |
| 22:42 | wahanui | bgkriegel is, like, on a signoff spree |
| 22:42 | bgkriegel | well, as said earlier, need opinions/ideas |
| 22:43 | I'm for using xml, at last in frameworks | |
| 22:43 | other files could be also | |
| 22:43 | main reason is to ease translations | |
| 22:44 | tcohen | the idea is to use xml for generating the data |
| 22:45 | bgkriegel | it will be useful if some want to comment on that bug |
| 22:45 | tcohen | using XML has the advantage that the current translation tools like it |
| 22:45 | rangi | id like to see it as a first step away from being MARC specific |
| 22:45 | id like to move it to cataloguing frameworks | |
| 22:45 | which might be marc | |
| 22:46 | might be dc, might be whatever | |
| 22:46 | tcohen | interesting |
| 22:46 | wahanui | hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 22:46 | rangi | xml seems like a good step in that direction |
| 22:46 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 22:47 | cataloguing_frameworks++ | |
| 22:47 | rangi | with that, plus elasticsearch .. we are moving away from 1968 :-) |
| 22:47 | tcohen | rangi: if you have any idea on an XML model that should help going that direction, please step in :-D |
| 22:47 | hi wizzyrea | |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea | most of the metadata formats have dtds I thought... |
| 22:49 | tcohen | the cataloguing interface needs to be rewritten to support that I guess |
| 22:50 | cait | hm for the data i think yes, but not sure that's the same |
| 22:50 | we would have to add to it maybe, but use vor validation? | |
| 22:50 | bgkriegel | and what about rancor? |
| 22:51 | cait | not sure what i say makes sense it's quite late here |
| 22:51 | rangi | thats designed heavily for cataloguers (ie people who like MARC) i doubt we'd touch that |
| 22:52 | wizzyrea | could probably take some cues from projects like greenstone |
| 22:52 | rangi | just not locking us into only being able to represent marc fields would be the first step |
| 22:54 | tcohen | rangi et al: do u plan to work on that regarding the ES integration efforts? |
| 22:54 | rangi | not in this release cycle no |
| 22:55 | well elasticsearch already lets us index anything, not just marc so nothing more needed there really | |
| 22:55 | eythian_ | Though a lot of the existing stuff it hooks into expects marc, but that's a solvable problem. |
| 22:55 | rangi | just whatever we choose to represent our frameworks, it would be nice to not build in assumptions that it will always be MARC |
| 22:55 | ie it doesnt have to support others yet, but just not make it harder to :) | |
| 22:56 | tcohen | DSpace uses an XML file to model the input form (cataloguing framework) |
| 22:57 | cait | the change is also to make it easier translatable - i think maybe not try tomake it do everything now, but make afirst step? |
| 22:57 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
| 22:57 | tcohen | anyway, what bgkriegel want's to do for now, is abandoning the SQL files stored in the source tree, and move them to XML for better translation |
| 22:57 | rangi | yep |
| 22:58 | tcohen | we currently have one file for each language |
| 22:58 | ok, if anyone has any comment to do on that, approach bgkriegel | |
| 22:58 | or comment on the bug (feedback is always welcome) | |
| 22:59 | dcook for instance, proposed YAML instead | |
| 22:59 | ok, moving on now, agreed? | |
| 22:59 | #topic Testig of APIs, CAS, LDAP... | |
| 22:59 | Topic for #koha is now Testig of APIs, CAS, LDAP... (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 2) | |
| 23:00 | tcohen | the QA team has several bugs in their queue |
| 23:00 | due to the lack of a proper testing environment | |
| 23:00 | not everyone has a CAS or LDAP server | |
| 23:01 | SIP, etc | |
| 23:01 | biblibre set a CAS server for testing purposes | |
| 23:01 | biblibre++ | |
| 23:01 | we still don't have an LDAP server for testing LDAP patches | |
| 23:01 | * bag | is working on getting an LDAP server for testing |
| 23:01 | tcohen | :-D :-D |
| 23:02 | bag | just got back in office from being out for about 40 days (work travel and vacation) |
| 23:02 | * tcohen | is amazed most of the sentences are even aligned |
| 23:02 | bag | so LDAP will come just not too fast |
| 23:02 | :) | |
| 23:02 | tcohen | bywater++ |
| 23:03 | #actions ByWater is working to provide an LDAP server for testing purposes | |
| 23:04 | ok next topic | |
| 23:04 | #topic Big stuff we are working on | |
| 23:04 | Topic for #koha is now Big stuff we are working on (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 2) | |
| 23:04 | tcohen | anyone? |
| 23:04 | wahanui | Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? |
| 23:04 | tcohen | I mentioned earlier that I plan to work on a TemaTres<->Koha integration |
| 23:05 | rangi | just the same as before |
| 23:05 | bag | pianohacker just spent the last week working pretty heavily on http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 |
| 23:05 | huginn | 04Bug 11559: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface |
| 23:05 | rangi | elastic search, plack, and cover images |
| 23:05 | bag | he should have more patches coming in another 3~4 weeks |
| 23:05 | tcohen | bag: what needs to be done for rancor? |
| 23:05 | (from the release team) | |
| 23:06 | bag | right now pazpar2 isn't reliable - so pianohacker needs to decide on how he wants the z3950 searching done |
| 23:06 | tcohen | ok, let everyone know if feedback is needed |
| 23:07 | cait | :) |
| 23:07 | bag | like why even change what we already have versus being creative with something new :) |
| 23:07 | tcohen | :) |
| 23:07 | cait | there is also the opac patch using pazpar2 |
| 23:07 | bag | will do |
| 23:08 | yup cait there is... | |
| 23:08 | cait | not sure what we could use instead |
| 23:08 | bag | once we can have pianohacker in the "office" for a consistent period we'll be looking at all those again |
| 23:08 | tcohen | excellent |
| 23:09 | rangi: about plack support | |
| 23:10 | is there big stuff needing sign-off or any kind of feedback? | |
| 23:10 | eythian_ | A few have been signed off, and one or two need a bit more work (of the ones I've done.) |
| 23:10 | * bag | is working on getting 2 production sites up in the next two weeks for plack staff |
| 23:11 | bag | see if we can't find some more bugs |
| 23:12 | eythian_ | yay bugs! :) |
| 23:12 | tcohen | ok, i mentioned TemaTres |
| 23:12 | eythian_ | what is that? |
| 23:12 | wahanui | well, that is the intended behavior? |
| 23:13 | tcohen | is a tool for managing thesaurus and controled vocabularies |
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| 23:14 | bgkriegel | TemaTres: http://www.vocabularyserver.com/ |
| 23:15 | tcohen | thanks bgkriegel |
| 23:16 | eythian_ | That looks worthwhile. |
| 23:16 | tcohen | we should move on, cait would fall asleep otherwise |
| 23:17 | cait | huh? |
| 23:17 | * cait | might already be half asleep |
| 23:17 | cait | but it's the time |
| 23:18 | tcohen | ok, moving on |
| 23:18 | #topic Dates of releases | |
| 23:18 | Topic for #koha is now Dates of releases (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 2) | |
| 23:18 | tcohen | we forgot to talk about that on part 1 |
| 23:19 | rangi | ah yeah |
| 23:19 | tcohen | release dates are slippin |
| 23:19 | rangi | ive notice we seem to be slipping from our release dates |
| 23:19 | it used to be 15th was string freeze, and 22nd was release (for maintenance releases) | |
| 23:20 | but it kinda is all over the place now, which makes it harder for translators etc | |
| 23:20 | i just wanted to mention that, and see if people would like to try to get back to monthly regular releases | |
| 23:21 | bag | agreed - I think it should be back to 15th 22nd |
| 23:21 | tcohen | yes, i'll talk to the guys about that |
| 23:21 | we can do it | |
| 23:21 | bag | I just don't want my calendar alerts to be wrong :P |
| 23:21 | heh | |
| 23:21 | rangi | thanks |
| 23:21 | tcohen | ok |
| 23:22 | cait | 22nd_releases++ :) |
| 23:22 | tcohen | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 23:22 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Koha IRC Developer Meeting, July 2nd, part 2) | |
| 23:22 | tcohen | I proposed on koha-devel, trying a 3-week cycle for this meetings |
| 23:23 | thus, proposed July 23rd | |
| 23:23 | same time | |
| 23:23 | 15:00 UTC and 22:00 UTC | |
| 23:24 | eythian_ | same_bat_time++ |
| 23:24 | rangi | +1 |
| 23:24 | bag | works +1 |
| 23:24 | cait left #koha | |
| 23:24 | tcohen | http://bit.ly/1iXmSgC |
| 23:25 | ^^^^^^ kohacon14 | |
| 23:25 | bag | ok I need dinner now |
| 23:25 | tcohen | #agreed next meeting date: July 23rd (part 1: 15:00 UTC) (part 2: 22:00 UTC) |
| 23:26 | done | |
| 23:26 | what was the command? | |
| 23:26 | #endmeeting | |
| 23:26 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.1 is available! Next general meeting is 9 and 10 July 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
| 23:26 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jul 2 23:26:25 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 23:26 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-07-02-22.01.html | |
| 23:26 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]4-07-02-22.01.txt | |
| 23:26 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]02-22.01.log.html | |
| 23:26 | tcohen | thanks everyone |
| 23:27 | rangi | thank you tcohen |
| 23:27 | * dcook | looks forward to reading the minutes |
| 23:27 | tcohen | hi dcook |
| 23:27 | bag | thanks tcohen |
| 23:28 | tcohen++ | |
| 23:28 | dcook | Dang, cait...1:30am? |
| 23:28 | tcohen | night every1 |
| 23:28 | dcook | hey, tcohen |
| 23:28 | and night :) | |
| 23:28 | tcohen | wife is waiting for me to cook! |
| 23:29 | dcook | heh |
| 23:39 | oleonard++ | |
| 23:42 | papa joined #koha |
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