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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | eythian | dcook: you just missed him. |
| 00:00 | dcook | dinger :/ |
| 00:00 | eythian | but pull requests are a git thing, GH just has a web interface for it. |
| 00:01 | dcook | I thought that Linus Torvald wrote something explicitly saying how he thought pull requests were a bad idea and that only GH had them |
| 00:01 | eythian | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]ll-request-on-git <-- this explains the difference |
| 00:01 | Koha uses them occasionally if a patch can't be emailed for some reason, but that's rare | |
| 00:05 | alohalog` joined #koha | |
| 00:05 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.0 is available! Next general meeting is 3 and 4 June 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
| 00:05 | dcook | Would rangi apply a patch via git bz, and then tcohen would cherry-pick from a branch with the MM repo as a remote? |
| 00:05 | Or just apply from git-bz? | |
| 00:05 | eythian | I dunno. I don't know if the MM branches are widely used or not. |
| 00:05 | mtompset | MM? |
| 00:05 | tcohen | i'm experimenting |
| 00:06 | (is it idiomatic?) | |
| 00:06 | dcook | (Makes sense :) ) |
| 00:06 | tcohen | i git merged from rangi's MM branch |
| 00:07 | mtj joined #koha | |
| 00:08 | dcook | Mmm, I think I follow now. Thanks, tcohen :) |
| 00:08 | * dcook | ponders |
| 00:08 | dcook | How would they update their MM branch then? |
| 00:08 | tcohen | for now, my goal is that MM take care of integrating patch series |
| 00:09 | the latest tiny patches might make it look like unnecesary overhead | |
| 00:09 | it will depend on how big are they I guess | |
| 00:12 | dcook | I have no idea, but I like the idea of more people pushing code |
| 00:12 | Seems like that could ease things for the RM long-term | |
| 00:13 | Although I suppose the bottleneck is still probably testing | |
| 00:34 | mtj | this is some interesting info from Linus... -> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/17 |
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| 00:59 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.0 is available! Next general meeting is 3 and 4 June 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
| 00:59 | mtj joined #koha | |
| 01:00 | dcook | Looks like it should work but it never seems to.. |
| 01:01 | Or maybe it does partially do what it says it does.. | |
| 01:06 | Ok, so maybe Makefile.PL does work exactly as it says... | |
| 01:06 | I just need to read more carefully :p | |
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| 01:21 | pianohacker joined #koha | |
| 01:21 | pianohacker | hallo |
| 01:22 | dcook | yo pianohacker |
| 01:23 | pianohacker | hey dcook :) |
| 01:23 | decided on the galago ultrabook after a lot of research, the small-screen laptop market is a really frustrating place | |
| 01:24 | dcook | I hear that |
| 01:24 | Galago, eh? Link? | |
| 01:24 | Nevermind. I'm overly excited :p | |
| 01:26 | How much hard drive space does that sucker have? | |
| 01:26 | Ahh, nvm | |
| 01:26 | That's n eat | |
| 01:26 | neat* | |
| 01:27 | pianohacker | yup, nice laptop. You go almost anywhere else, and you compromise on screen, battery life, graphics or build quality |
| 01:27 | planning to put raid 0'd dual samsung ssds in it :) | |
| 01:29 | * dcook | really needs to play around more with raid configs.. |
| 01:29 | dcook | I suppose I still can't rationalize spending $1000 on anything other than travel :p |
| 01:29 | I mean $1000+ | |
| 01:30 | Mind you, this is a way nicer machine than the ones I've seen here for that same price.. | |
| 01:32 | pianohacker | I have student loan money, and this laptop is dying slowly. Could last a year, but I can and should get something better |
| 01:32 | dcook | Is System76 located in Canada? Wondering why they offer ground cover for there.. |
| 01:32 | pianohacker | to my understanding, they're a half hour away in Denver |
| 01:33 | dcook | Hmm must just be an add-on for Canucks |
| 01:33 | I've been pondering laptops for the past year or so. My netbook is...4.5 years old at this point | |
| 01:33 | Running Lubuntu means it's still usable but it's not necessarily ideal :/ | |
| 01:33 | pianohacker | what kind of specs? |
| 01:33 | dcook | Yet, I so rarely use laptops. |
| 01:33 | Laughable specs ;) | |
| 01:34 | If I am going to use a laptop, it's probably going to be for work, and then I just use one of the machines we have here. | |
| 01:34 | pianohacker | I have a core 2 duo with a gig of ram and scrounged components by my feet, acting as a router. How laughable we talking! |
| 01:35 | *? | |
| 01:35 | And good, I was gonna say, if you're doing koha development on that you are a trooper... | |
| 01:36 | dcook | Yeah, I think that processor and ram sound about the same :p |
| 01:36 | pianohacker | fun times :) and probably intel graphics that think opengl is something you can eat |
| 01:36 | dcook | Well, in...2012 I managed to install Debian on a Vbox VM on Windows 7. So painful... |
| 01:36 | pianohacker | wait, on that hardware? |
| 01:37 | dcook | Yep |
| 01:37 | * dcook | was rather transitory at the time and had a lack of options |
| 01:38 | pianohacker | good lord. You wouldn't have had hardware-assisted virtualization even, I don't think |
| 01:38 | Windows must have taken forever and a day to boot | |
| 01:38 | dcook | Windows was the host, so it wasn't too bad. Debian was slow as though. |
| 01:39 | Still, it was the first time I ever installed Linux | |
| 01:39 | I must've liked it if I persisted :p | |
| 01:39 | pianohacker | oh okay. And if you persisted through that, yes indeed! |
| 01:39 | dcook | Playing with a Debian VM during class also proved more interesting than paying attention to lectures... |
| 01:39 | No offence to the lecturers. It was just rather dry at times. | |
| 01:40 | pianohacker | no stones thrown, I've written plenty of code in class |
| 01:40 | dcook | Multitasking! |
| 01:44 | Now that I think about it, you're all done uni, yeah, pianohacker? | |
| 01:44 | pianohacker | dcook: kinda. Graduated last month, but doing field session work (which is writing an ajax circulation client using angularjs), and I'm staying here another year for my masters |
| 01:45 | then I have to face the terrifying real world | |
| 01:46 | dcook | field session? |
| 01:46 | wahanui | well, field session is going decent, trying to get them up to speed on stuff. They're learning web technologies, Perl and Koha's many quirks at the same time, so they're getting firehosed a bit |
| 01:46 | dcook | Yay for masters delaying the world! ;) |
| 01:47 | What will you be doing for your masters? | |
| 01:47 | pianohacker | oh hey, that's actually a quote from me. It's a summer session for my undergrad |
| 01:47 | and I have no idea! advanced classes, but I need to track down a project. Probably something with networking | |
| 01:49 | dcook | I'm not sure I follow :S. So doing paid work for credit? |
| 01:50 | Sometimes I wish I would've done CS or at least a little bit of CS... | |
| 01:52 | pianohacker | it's a weird setup. Companies (including ByWater this time) submit speculative/explorative projects to the school, and we're assigned in teams of 3 or 4 to them. |
| 01:52 | The theory is that it's not something that will make the company money directly, so it's okay for us to pay the school for credit for it :P | |
| 01:54 | dcook | haha. Interesting |
| 01:54 | So there are other people working on it as well? | |
| 01:55 | pianohacker | yup, two other guys getting introduced to the quirky joy of Koha and the circulation code |
| 01:58 | dcook | Neato |
| 01:58 | So we've been wondering...what are the perks of an ajax circulation client? | |
| 01:58 | Not reloading the page for each check in? | |
| 01:59 | pianohacker | yup, that's the biggie, makes a lot of things faster or instant |
| 02:00 | cancelling a checkout that needed confirmation, for instance, involves hiding a div rather than a page reload | |
| 02:00 | dcook | Sweet :) |
| 02:01 | Why use angularjs? | |
| 02:01 | pianohacker | because it's the best thing since bagels with nutella |
| 02:02 | dcook | Bagels with nutella you say... |
| 02:02 | Toasted or untoasted? | |
| 02:03 | pianohacker | I'm an untoasted man, but it depends on the bagel. Less hyperbolically, it gives us a really nice reactive template system. I'll show you the checkout screen as it currently stands (partially done) |
| 02:03 | https://github.com/CSMByWater/[…]/circ/checkout.tt | |
| 02:08 | dcook | Dang, that page is gettin' long :/ |
| 02:08 | Looks interesting though! | |
| 02:08 | Good excuse for the rest of us (i.e. me) to look at angular | |
| 02:09 | pianohacker | compare and contrast the needsconfirmation/impossible logic, it's spectacular... |
| 02:10 | you just set stuff in your scope, and the page changes, boom | |
| 02:11 | tried to do this several years ago with jQuery and this is ten times better | |
| 02:11 | jcamins | pianohacker: I really like Angular. I also liked the looks of the one from Facebook, though. |
| 02:12 | dcook | pianohacker: Oooh, I see there. That does look handy. |
| 02:12 | I wonder if it would be useful to separate those into includes.. | |
| 02:13 | pianohacker | jcamins: reactive frameworks are just nice in general. Plus it makes the translation situation with JS in koha less of a bear |
| 02:13 | dcook: how do you mean? | |
| 02:14 | dcook | pianohacker: I was just thinking about the question section, but maybe it makes sense just to leave it |
| 02:14 | Is the code at the bottom going to stay or has that just not been stripped out yet? | |
| 02:14 | * dcook | is looking at patron restrictions |
| 02:15 | pianohacker | dcook: that's going to be converted, we just started with circulation.tt and went from there |
| 02:15 | dcook | Mmm, sweet |
| 02:15 | Personally I've always been more in favour of toasted bagels, but untoasted with nutella... | |
| 02:15 | Tough to find bagels in Sydney though :/ | |
| 02:16 | At least in the inner west | |
| 02:16 | Looking forward to seeing it when it's done, pianohacker :) | |
| 02:17 | pianohacker | dcook: If you want a delicious artery killer, try a soft bagel with cream cheese and nutella |
| 02:21 | dcook | Hehe. I've never been a huge fan of cream cheese :p |
| 02:21 | I was thinking this morning about how good I feel in my body, then I remembered that I'm still in my late 20s :p | |
| 02:21 | Still have lots of time to fall apart.. | |
| 02:31 | eythian | hmm, I have to embed a chunk of C4::Biblio into a Koha:: module to make something work. Or should I be bad and just reference C4::Biblio... |
| 02:32 | pianohacker | sounds like a devil's bargain either way. What are you up to? |
| 02:33 | eythian | I want to add item data to a MARC record for indexing. However, to reimplement C4::Biblio::EmbedItemsInBiblio, I need to implement several other functions dealing with frameworks and such. |
| 02:34 | pianohacker | I'd definitely vote for using the existing sub. Why not? |
| 02:34 | eythian | it's preferable to not use C4:: things other than C4::Context in Koha:: modules. |
| 02:35 | I might do it now, otherwise I'll risk losing momentum in what I'm actually doing. It could be added later if needed. | |
| 02:35 | pianohacker | interesting, did not know that. To risk sounding like a broken record, why? |
| 02:35 | seems like there are lots of cases like this where you'd have to reimplement something | |
| 02:35 | eythian | because we'd like to move everything to a Koha:: namespace, and part of doing that is removing dependence on C4. |
| 02:35 | rangi | thats the idea |
| 02:36 | reimplement it properly/cleanly without the circular dependencies | |
| 02:37 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Koha::_namespace | |
| 02:43 | dcook | eythian: Would it be possible to create a new "EmbedItemsInBiblio" function in Koha:: and then change C4::Biblio::EmbedItemsInBiblio to just be a wrapper? |
| 02:43 | eythian | dcook: yes, totally. |
| 02:43 | however, I just don't want to spend the time going through tracing all the dependencies right now :) | |
| 02:43 | dcook | It would be extra work, but wouldn't that be easier than trying to fix the call to C4 in the future or embedding a chunk? |
| 02:44 | Mmm, that'll do it :/ | |
| 02:44 | eythian | It's probably what I'll do in the end. |
| 02:44 | * eythian | adds a TODO note. |
| 02:45 | eythian | basically I want to get items indexing in ES sooner rather than taking the time to reimplement stuff right now. |
| 02:45 | dcook | I wonder if it would be useful at some point to create a plan for how Koha:: would look |
| 02:45 | eythian: Yeah, I can understand that | |
| 02:45 | * dcook | is pro ES :D |
| 02:46 | dcook | No harm being bad if it's pre-community anyway |
| 02:46 | Speaking of bad...*pokes Zebra and asks why it's not merging authorities as it should* | |
| 02:46 | Well, that's not what I mean.. | |
| 02:47 | Zebra, why you think you have no bib 1 attribute when you totes do | |
| 02:48 | eythian | adding item details slows down my reindexing time noticeably :( |
| 02:48 | dcook | :( |
| 02:48 | eythian | Mind you, I could probably optimise that a fair bit, I suspect it's doing far more db calls than needed right now. |
| 02:58 | dcook | Yay optimise! |
| 02:58 | Also boo Zebra right now... | |
| 02:58 | pianohacker | rangi: Hmm. I think I'm missing something, as it seems to imply, for example, that the services we're writing for the angular circ project need to port all of the circulation and holds logic to Koha:: |
| 02:58 | dcook | Well, it's almost certainly our fault and not Zebra, but...no idea why it's config doesn't seem right.. |
| 03:00 | rangi | eventually they will use Koha::Circulation or something, you will just have to note that that work is still todo |
| 03:01 | pianohacker | ok... I'm never entirely sure when our coding guidelines are MAY, SHOULD or MUST in terms of patch acceptance |
| 03:01 | rangi | its always at the discretion of the RM |
| 03:01 | dcook | pianohacker: I think at this point it's mostly that if you're adding new modules, they should be in Koha:: rather than C4:: ? |
| 03:01 | rangi | dcook: and that they shouldnt reference C4:: ones |
| 03:02 | because otherwise we will never get rid of C4 | |
| 03:02 | dcook | rangi: Huh...I suppose that makes sense as otherwise there is no incentive to write Koha:: modules.. |
| 03:02 | yeah | |
| 03:02 | pianohacker | rangi: with an implied "when reasonably possible" after that shouldn't? |
| 03:02 | dcook | It would be cool if there were a Koha:: roadmap |
| 03:03 | rangi | i dont think that would work |
| 03:03 | there was a rfc, but it was overly complicated | |
| 03:03 | dcook | Maybe not |
| 03:03 | pianohacker | aka if it's some silly utility call in C4::Koha, you should just buck up and port it, but if it's some bear like CanBookBeIssued, a todo is reasonable? |
| 03:03 | dcook | I suppose when it's open to comment, it's going to get complicated |
| 03:03 | rangi | pianohacker: that'd be up to the QA team to decide |
| 03:04 | * dcook | supposes that he's glad that he mostly sends in small patches.. |
| 03:04 | dcook | But then again change is good...argh.. |
| 03:04 | rangi | i have a new Koha::Email one |
| 03:04 | im working on now | |
| 03:04 | dcook | I remember you mentioning that |
| 03:04 | * dcook | is quite excited by it |
| 03:04 | dcook | That's a really really good one to do |
| 03:05 | rangi | pianohacker: for your use case i think it will be ok |
| 03:05 | dcook | rangi: Was that prompted by a client or the urge to do good deeds? ;) |
| 03:05 | rangi | client |
| 03:06 | dcook | Sweet. I love when clients drive change :) |
| 03:07 | I wish sometimes that more of our clients were upset by things so that there was impetus for change | |
| 03:07 | pianohacker | I'd think so, yeah. I think it is forward-thinking and reasonable to push hard for refactoring when you touch the code in question. |
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| 03:29 | dcook | Has anyone ever had to manually refresh a Zebra db? |
| 03:29 | I use the -r flag but it's not hacking it.. | |
| 03:29 | eythian | It's pretty common to do that. |
| 03:29 | dcook | Mind you, I think Zebra isn't reading the config right either.. |
| 03:30 | Loads of 114 errors that make zero sense | |
| 03:31 | pianohacker | you may have to look through zebra's source code, dcook. It's the only way I've been able to solve a lot of problems... |
| 03:31 | besides config roulette | |
| 03:31 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:32 | Yeah, I think this is going to be... | |
| 03:32 | I dont' even know | |
| 03:32 | eythian | dcook: two step solution: a) check out my ES code, b) help me make it work in all cases :) |
| 03:36 | dcook | wth...reset the db and it's still messing up. Has to be the zebra server itself not reading the config correctly... |
| 03:36 | eythian: So so tempting | |
| 03:38 | Hmm, maybe the .cfg file is screwed up...although that would make zero sense... | |
| 03:38 | Nope, that looks good.. | |
| 03:40 | It's just for authorities as well...biblio is fine | |
| 03:43 | pianohacker | dcook: do you have the index defined as the correct type? |
| 03:45 | dcook | correct type? |
| 03:45 | pianohacker | :w, :p, etc |
| 03:46 | dcook | Ah, yeah, that's all good |
| 03:46 | The config is identical between the two instances | |
| 03:46 | Or as identical as I can tell | |
| 03:46 | But one seems to not be loading the Zebra config files correctly.. | |
| 03:47 | Well...two instances in two different ways | |
| 03:48 | Yet it says that it's loading the right files.. | |
| 03:48 | pianohacker | same zebra version? |
| 03:48 | dcook | Yep |
| 03:48 | pianohacker | (and yaz) |
| 03:48 | dcook | Yep |
| 03:48 | pianohacker | and you're sure there are records being indexed that would fill that index? |
| 03:48 | dcook | Yep |
| 03:49 | I manually reset the database and it said database wasn't available (as expected) | |
| 03:49 | But when i reindexed and tried to query through yaz-client, it's giving me 114 errors | |
| 03:49 | pianohacker | What's your PQF? |
| 03:49 | dcook | Which mean that the bib-1 attributes don't exist |
| 03:49 | I'm not even using PQF at this point | |
| 03:49 | But 1=1016 <anything> | |
| 03:50 | It'll convert "f test" to "@attr 1=1016 'test'" | |
| 03:50 | pianohacker | wait, @attr 1=1016 is failing? That's nuts |
| 03:50 | isn't that general keyword search? | |
| 03:50 | dcook | [114] Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo '1016' |
| 03:50 | Yep | |
| 03:50 | Hmm | |
| 03:51 | Maybe it can't read the bib1.att file.. | |
| 03:51 | * dcook | checks permissions |
| 03:52 | dcook | Nah, that should be ok.. |
| 03:53 | No idea at all.. | |
| 03:54 | My other in stance has: | |
| 03:54 | ZOOM error 114 "Unsupported Use attribute" (addinfo: "Koha-Auth-Number") from diag-set 'Bib-1' | |
| 03:54 | When trying to merge authorities :S | |
| 03:54 | Which is in the biblio db's bib1.att file | |
| 03:54 | Something farked is going up | |
| 03:55 | going on* | |
| 03:55 | Hmm segfaulting now...that's cool, Zebra | |
| 03:57 | But search is still sort of working in Koha | |
| 03:57 | * dcook | is really starting to contemplate eythian's suggestion of checking out ES... |
| 04:19 | mtj | dcook: are you running zebrasrv -v all , for debugging... |
| 04:19 | can be handy for problem | |
| 04:19 | s | |
| 04:24 | dcook | I suppose I could. It's telling me what the problem is. It just seems unbelievable :p |
| 04:35 | Man Zebra gets super slow for updates on large DBs.. | |
| 04:39 | Yep...Zebra config identical...system preferences identical...code identical... | |
| 04:39 | * dcook | glares at Zebra |
| 04:39 | dcook | mtj: Thanks for that btw. I think I might try that next.. |
| 04:40 | pianohacker | dcook: And you're sure the index is finishing successfully? Has enough shadow space and everything? |
| 04:41 | There may be some issue that's only visible with -v -v on the rebuild that might mess you up | |
| 04:41 | (warning, the above will spew output) | |
| 04:41 | dcook | Yeah, I've been using -v -v :/ |
| 04:41 | pianohacker | shoot, okay. |
| 04:41 | dcook | So the one that produces the error: |
| 04:41 | ZOOM error 114 "Unsupported Use attribute" (addinfo: "Koha-Auth-Number") from diag-set 'Bib-1' | |
| 04:41 | Biblio and authority searching are working fine on that instance | |
| 04:42 | It's just when the merge tries to look up bibs connected to the auth record that it fails to find "Koha-Auth-Number") as a valid attribute :S | |
| 04:42 | (The problem with the authorities not being searchable at all is a different dev instance) | |
| 04:42 | (The one with "any" being considered invalid) | |
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| 05:01 | dcook | Despite all my rage, we still can't lock Zebra in a cage... |
| 05:01 | wizzyrea | lulz |
| 05:01 | i'm out later :) | |
| 05:01 | dcook | night wizzyrea |
| 05:03 | eythian | dcook: I bet it'd make good steaks though |
| 05:05 | dcook | No argument here :) |
| 05:07 | eythian | A downside to using the Koha:: namespace is you have to implement all sorts of APIs yourself, e.g. right now I have to write an ItemTypes one. |
| 05:10 | dcook | Well, half-way solved the problem |
| 05:10 | It's definitely related to a system preference | |
| 05:10 | Now to find out which one... | |
| 05:15 | pianohacker | I need to go to bed |
| 05:15 | night all | |
| 05:15 | wahanui | goodnight pianohacker. You'll be back. |
| 05:17 | dcook | eythian: dontmerge had somehow disappeared from the database |
| 05:17 | As to why it was an error about bib 1 attributes... | |
| 05:19 | Hmm, but if dontmerge is turned on, it also throws that error.. | |
| 05:19 | turned on being set to 1 | |
| 05:19 | Err 0 rather.. | |
| 05:19 | Bloody sysprefs.. | |
| 05:33 | Anyone know if you can use "make upgrade" to downgrade an install? | |
| 05:36 | Ahh, think I found my problem | |
| 05:36 | Someone broke my install by owning my Zebra DB with root... | |
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| 05:39 | eythian | doh |
| 05:39 | it's good to run zebrasrv manually sometimes, it'll log errors like that to the screen then | |
| 05:40 | dcook | I was running zebrasrv manually, but it was just giving htat 114 error |
| 05:40 | At least, that's the only error I noticed | |
| 05:40 | eythian | hmm OK |
| 05:41 | dcook | Yay! Pretty sure fixing the permissions did the trick for the dev instance |
| 05:41 | Also re-ran Makefile.PL which probably didn't hurt either | |
| 05:41 | Adding an extra -v -v onto rebuild_zebra.pl probably would've done the trick | |
| 05:42 | I wasn't getting the right output before but I didn't remember what I was supposed to be looking for | |
| 05:42 | Basically dcook whines too much on #koha :p | |
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| 05:42 | dcook | Although that's dontmerge thing is probably a bug... |
| 05:42 | * dcook | knew the dev instance thing was config related, but yeah.. |
| 05:53 | dcook | Hmm, definitely still a problem in master |
| 05:56 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:56 | dcook | yo magnuse |
| 05:56 | magnuse | yo yo yo! |
| 05:57 | eythian: yeah, the config for 942 should probably be the same for marc21 and normarc | |
| 05:58 | eythian | OK cool |
| 05:58 | dcook | @later tell pianohacker you were right about it not finishing indexing. Someone must've re-indexed my dev instance as root and it broke everything... |
| 05:58 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:58 | dcook | @later tell pianohacker As for that issue with the authority merging...working on that one...stupid Koha-Auth-Number... |
| 05:58 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:06 | eythian | the startup time involved in a 'use Koha::Database;' is concerningly high. |
| 06:06 | dcook | Mmm, I think I finally figured it out... |
| 06:06 | eythian: That's what I seem to keep hearing | |
| 06:07 | eythian | hope we can figure a way around that. |
| 06:08 | * dcook | swears |
| 06:08 | dcook | eythian: You know what the bloody problem was? |
| 06:08 | The stupid Koha-Auth-Number index was empty | |
| 06:08 | So even though the bib 1 attribute was defined in bib1.att... | |
| 06:08 | eythian | ah |
| 06:08 | dcook | It threw a 114 |
| 06:08 | eythian | how annoying |
| 06:08 | dcook | Well, I guess at least I solved all my problems... |
| 06:09 | Well, today's problems :p | |
| 06:09 | I'm pretty sure ES would just say "Oh, hey. This index is just empty, dudes." | |
| 06:09 | eythian | that's what it does. |
| 06:10 | well, if the index doesn't exist, it'll explode and tell you the index doesn't exist. | |
| 06:10 | dcook | Fair 'nuff |
| 06:10 | But in theory it should exist and just not be populated, yeah? | |
| 06:10 | eythian | yeah |
| 06:15 | I mean, it'd be weird for it to do anything else, right. | |
| 06:21 | dcook | hehe |
| 06:21 | Oh, Zebra. | |
| 06:22 | I'm glad I shall end the day having at least understood the problems I was facing... | |
| 06:22 | eythian: You should go home/to the pub | |
| 06:22 | Oh my...I'm turning into you! | |
| 06:22 | eythian | haha |
| 06:22 | dcook | This is cait's cue to show up.. |
| 06:22 | eythian | I want to get my itemtype api done so I can make itemtype facets show up nicely. |
| 06:22 | dcook | :D |
| 06:23 | That would be very nice ^_^ | |
| 06:23 | eythian | (at the moment they show up with their codes.) |
| 06:23 | dcook | I think I might have to try out your ES code when I have some free time |
| 06:23 | It would be cool to see if nothing else :D | |
| 06:25 | eythian | you should :D |
| 06:27 | dcook | Do you have any brief instructions? |
| 06:27 | I was thinking of using my Debian VM so that I could just apt-get install elasticsearch | |
| 06:27 | (if that's how you do it :P) | |
| 06:28 | eythian | more or less, yes |
| 06:28 | There's a big gob of dependencies needed for the Koha side though. I have packaged them all into .deb files. | |
| 06:28 | dcook | Big gob? |
| 06:29 | Ahh right | |
| 06:29 | Catmandu, etc | |
| 06:29 | Hmm, only downside is if I look at your code...I might get too desirious for it... | |
| 06:29 | Mind you, good for external sign offs down the road... | |
| 06:30 | wtf...someone just chowned my sockets again with root... | |
| 06:30 | * dcook | goes on a diplomatic warpath |
| 06:30 | eythian | yeah, signoffs would be good :) |
| 06:31 | I'm going to be spending a good bit of time in the future squashing and splitting patches into logical blocks I think. | |
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| 06:36 | dcook | eythian: Do you have an existing bug report for it or is that down the track |
| 06:36 | * dcook | waves to the French folk :) |
| 06:37 | eythian | dcook: there's no bug made for it yet. I want something I can release first, and that's getting close I feel. |
| 06:37 | Not prod ready, but mostly functional. | |
| 06:37 | dcook | Mostly functional works :) |
| 06:37 | I'd be quite keen to test it out | |
| 06:38 | What's the plan when there is a bug for it? | |
| 06:38 | Would it be an optional switch over? | |
| 06:38 | eythian | Yeah, it's totally syspref controlled. You flick the syspref back to zebra and it's (mostly) like you don't have the code there at all. |
| 06:39 | Currently it'll load some modules no matter what, but I plan to stop it even doing that. | |
| 06:39 | At this stage the only place it hooks into Koha proper is the opac-search.pl file. | |
| 06:41 | dcook | Cool :) |
| 06:42 | (An aside to myself: it does appear that you can downgrade with make upgrade. Sweeeet.) | |
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| 06:49 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:50 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:50 | marcelr | hi alex_a |
| 06:54 | eythian | hrm, I don't know how to write db_dependant tests using dbix::class |
| 06:55 | * dcook | has yet to bite the bullet on dbix::class |
| 06:55 | dcook | Still a bit sour after the last time I used it.. |
| 06:56 | eythian | the problem is that I'd normally get a dbi handle from C4::Context, and turn off autocommit. |
| 06:56 | But now the setup is running in a different transaction to what the code being tested is | |
| 06:56 | so it can't see the data I add. | |
| 06:59 | dcook | gmcharlt++ |
| 06:59 | good eye on bug 1472. I never noticed that dependency section! | |
| 06:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1472 blocker, P3, ---, chris, CLOSED INVALID, Foreign key constraint fails on item checkout |
| 07:00 | dcook | err |
| 07:00 | bug 11472 even | |
| 07:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11472 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , MARC21 008 plugin should consult leader to set default type of material |
| 07:01 | dcook | eythian: That does sound problematic :/ |
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| 07:05 | dcook | Wooo. Wifey done her homework early, so date night! |
| 07:05 | Good luck, eythian! | |
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| 07:08 | fridolin | bonjour to all |
| 07:08 | eythian | later dcook |
| 07:08 | hi fridolin | |
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| 07:29 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:29 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on June 05, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:29 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:29 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 16.3°C (9:29 AM CEST on June 05, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:29 | magnuse | hah!! |
| 07:30 | eythian | OK, itemtype facets now show up with the description rather than the code. That's definitely a good thing. |
| 07:30 | Also my cue to go home. | |
| 07:31 | magnuse | eythian: have you seen there is some official debian packaging of Catmandu on the way? |
| 07:32 | eythian | magnuse: the problem is I have had to submit patches to catmandu to make things work |
| 07:32 | they've gone in upstream, but debian packages won't be that current. | |
| 07:32 | magnuse | ah, gotcha |
| 07:33 | eythian++ | |
| 07:36 | hm, i know about minPasswordLength, but didn't i see some more fancy password stuff while i was translating? | |
| 07:43 | for setting the length and complexity? or did i dream that | |
| 07:43 | ashimema | I vaguely remember such things magnuse.. |
| 07:43 | can't find it now though. | |
| 07:48 | wow.. I think this might be the first time I've ever been higher than Cait on the QA leader board ;) | |
| 07:48 | only 'cause she's been out for the majority of this month so far | |
| 07:53 | magnuse | hehe, you better bask in the glory while you can ;-) |
| 07:53 | ashimema | ;) |
| 07:53 | magnuse | or make sure you get a good lead on her before she is back |
| 07:53 | ashimema | doesn't happen often |
| 07:53 | magnuse | nope, cait is pretty awesome |
| 07:53 | ashimema | unfortunately I've not really got much time for QA at the minute.. :( |
| 07:54 | cait holds the whole thing together really... her stats are amazing. | |
| 07:54 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 07:54 | ashimema | cait++ |
| 07:57 | magnuse | @karma cait |
| 07:57 | huginn | magnuse: Karma for "cait" has been increased 85 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 85. |
| 07:57 | magnuse | @karma |
| 07:57 | huginn | magnuse: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (114), "cait" (85), and "eythian" (64). Lowest karma: "^" (-5), "-" (-3), and "ie" (-3). You (magnuse) are ranked 10 out of 205. |
| 07:57 | * magnuse | nods |
| 07:57 | ashimema | @karma |
| 07:57 | huginn | ashimema: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (114), "cait" (85), and "eythian" (64). Lowest karma: "^" (-5), "-" (-3), and "ie" (-3). You (ashimema) are ranked 8 out of 205. |
| 07:59 | ashimema | our permissions system is weird.. currently trying to work out if it would be possible to set permissions as part of import in my borrower import re-write.. |
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| 07:59 | ashimema | but getting my head around them to start with is proving challenging. |
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| 08:04 | magnuse | yeah, i think i got as far as figuring out how to add a new permission once - that was enough for me ;-) |
| 08:05 | ashimema | I've worked that bit out before.. |
| 08:05 | but how the permission themselves fit together.. I'm baffled.. | |
| 08:05 | seems to be a sum or squares or some such math going on to get the flags number | |
| 08:06 | magnuse | is it similar to file system permissions? that was sort of the impression i got |
| 08:07 | ashimema | i'm not exactly sure.. but I have a feeling it's not that similar |
| 08:08 | magnuse | ok |
| 08:10 | ashimema | actually.. maybe ther's more similarity than I initially thought.. |
| 08:11 | I think i'm starting to get my head around the user_permissions and permissions tables.. but I've got no idea how it relates to borrowers.flags | |
| 08:15 | magnuse | you wave the flags in the air to celebrate when you get the permissions you want? |
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| 09:20 | magnuse | hm, should patches for the documentation be on bugzilla, or sent to the documentation mail list? |
| 10:26 | ashimema | pass |
| 10:26 | it's quiet in here today. | |
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| 10:52 | longrider | Hi |
| 10:52 | wahanui | kia ora, longrider |
| 10:52 | longrider | Everybody |
| 10:52 | wahanui | Everybody is so enthusiastic today :) |
| 10:53 | longrider | I did not solve my previous problems regarding solr search in koha |
| 10:56 | ashimema | solr isn't supported for production.. it was in development.. but seems to now be mostly abandoned. |
| 10:57 | longrider | have You tested solr>? |
| 10:59 | * longrider | slaps laurence around a bit with a large fishbot |
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| 11:08 | Joubu | longrider: what do you want to know about Solr and Koha? |
| 11:09 | longrider | I like to deploy solr in my koha |
| 11:09 | when I run ./rebuild_solr.pl -i | |
| 11:09 | It produce | |
| 11:10 | Joubu | longrider: There is only 1 way to have a Koha using Solr in production, and it is not possible with the master branch |
| 11:10 | longrider | 0 record index |
| 11:10 | Joubu | the only way is to use the BibLibre branch (based on 3.2Biblibre which is a fork of Koha 3.2). |
| 11:12 | longrider: yes, it is possible you forgot something in the configuration | |
| 11:12 | on it is possible something is wrong in the master code | |
| 11:12 | I didn't try to index record with Solr using the master branch for a longtime... | |
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| 11:41 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:41 | tcohen | morning #koha! |
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| 12:55 | oleonard | One of our e-resource vendors sends a MARC file of titles which are no longer available and should be deleted. Is there a way to use it to batch delete titles? |
| 13:06 | tcohen | Joubu: don't you think that something like --where table.field operator value would be better syntax? |
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| 13:14 | Joubu | tcohen: I don't understand. |
| 13:14 | tcohen | sorry, bug 12368 |
| 13:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12368 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Rebuild Zebra improvement: allow to specify a DB table |
| 13:14 | Joubu | tcohen: you suggest the query does a join on items and biblios? |
| 13:15 | tcohen | I suggest that we parse the parameters accordingly |
| 13:15 | just hinking out loud | |
| 13:15 | Joubu | tcohen: hum, yes but if the where clause is complex, it could be difficult to parse the tables to use |
| 13:16 | * tcohen | agrees |
| 13:32 | bag | http://m.today.com/news/studen[…]-prank-2D79756707 (This guy plays on my baseball team with me) |
| 13:33 | pretty rad prank | |
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| 13:36 | Dyrcona | oleonard: I have something like that for Evergreen if you want to have a look. We get a mixed file of updates and the script checks the record status field. |
| 13:37 | oleonard | Thanks Dyrcona, but I'm not looking to adapt something at the moment, just looking for immediately practical options |
| 13:46 | Dyrcona | oleonard: Good luck. I can help you with the MARC side, but probably not so much with the Koha bits if you have questions. |
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| 14:11 | nengard | oleonard there is a bug/patch for that ... |
| 14:12 | looking | |
| 14:12 | oleonard | I know there is a batch delete biblios bug report, but I don't know how it works. |
| 14:13 | nengard | it uses the 'd' in one of the fixed fields |
| 14:13 | what the ebook vendors put in there | |
| 14:13 | i forget what field though | |
| 14:13 | khall might know | |
| 14:13 | or talljoy | |
| 14:14 | khall | I do remember writing that |
| 14:15 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11084 | |
| 14:15 | huginn | 04Bug 11084: trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Delete biblios on Leader 05 =d |
| 14:30 | barton | oleonard, I've got a patron self-registration question: when I check the borrower-modifications table, I see that all of the verification_tokens are associated with borrower 0 -- do you know what would cause this? |
| 14:30 | oleonard | Not off the top of my head, no. |
| 14:31 | barton | Hmm, weird. |
| 14:35 | just checked sysprefs->OPAC->self registration -- I can't see *anything* that would affect that. I guess it's bug report time :-) | |
| 14:37 | oleonard | barton: What is the consequence of the symptom? |
| 14:37 | nengard | wouldn't it be that borrower 0 (the koha user) generated the code? |
| 14:37 | which would make senese | |
| 14:37 | sense | |
| 14:39 | barton | The consequence is that when borrowers click on the link link to verify that they got the email, they're all taken to the same borrower... |
| 14:39 | oleonard | :( |
| 14:39 | barton | yeah. not good. |
| 14:40 | the small saving grace being that self registered patrons have limited access. | |
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| 15:17 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:17 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12295: fix Javascript error when merging authorities <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fef0b03357e1814af> / Bug 12025 - Inventory tool fails with "Could not reads headers", or sometimes a timeout <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5d230bb74da10cca1> |
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| 18:05 | ashimema | tcohen or eythian about? |
| 18:05 | not likely.. but worth a try ;) | |
| 18:05 | tcohen | ashimema: hi |
| 18:05 | wahanui | hey, tcohen |
| 18:05 | ashimema | random question.. is it jsut me.. or has the format for verions number changed slightly with 3.16 release in the repos? |
| 18:05 | 3.14.00 vs 3.16.00.1 | |
| 18:07 | just wanted to check it wasn't something I’ve got confused.. I've been building our 3.16 repo today.. but have just run up against my version number not being larger due to the .1 at the end. | |
| 18:14 | tcohen | ashimema: where are you reading that? |
| 18:15 | ashimema | from an apt-cache policy |
| 18:15 | tcohen | kohaversion.pl and updatedatabase.pl always contained that appendix |
| 18:15 | ashimema | koha-common: |
| 18:15 | Installed: 3.14.06-2ptfs | |
| 18:15 | Candidate: 3.16.00.1 | |
| 18:15 | Version table: | |
| 18:15 | 3.16.00.1 0 | |
| 18:15 | 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages | |
| 18:15 | 3.16.00-1ptfs 0 | |
| 18:15 | 500 http://repo.koha-ptfs.co.uk/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages | |
| 18:15 | *** 3.14.06-2ptfs 0 | |
| 18:15 | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | |
| 18:15 | tcohen | oh |
| 18:15 | ashimema | indeed.. I wondered if it's deliberate. |
| 18:16 | to bring it inline with kohaversion.pl for instance | |
| 18:16 | tcohen | nope |
| 18:16 | looks like a typo s/./-/ | |
| 18:17 | ah | |
| 18:17 | maybe eythian built a revision just after building 3.16.0 because he found some trouble | |
| 18:18 | ashimema | no matter.. I'll just go ahead and rebuild my package with the .1 in then my version will be ahead.. |
| 18:18 | only difference is a minor credits tweak we always put in so far.. 'Supported by...' | |
| 18:18 | coolios. | |
| 18:18 | thanks tcohen.. that makes sense. | |
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| 18:19 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 18:19 | http://ccsinjection.lepidum.co.jp/ -- OpenSSL update to fix a really old bug. | |
| 18:24 | ashimema | we saw that too.. |
| 18:24 | oh dear. | |
| 18:30 | mtompset | I just ran a apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade. Looks like Ubuntu has a patch already available now. :) |
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| 18:37 | ashimema | that's quick |
| 19:11 | pianohacker | hi ashimema! Have to run now, but wanted to say 'allo |
| 19:13 | ashimema | hi pianohacker.. |
| 19:13 | have fun running.. hope your well | |
| 19:14 | pianohacker | yup, busy with school, work and errands, but life is good :) |
| 19:23 | ashimema | coolios.. |
| 19:23 | I'm heading off now too.. have a good night/evenig.. whatever time it is there. | |
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| 19:47 | rangi | morning |
| 20:11 | Joubu: you still awake? :) | |
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| 20:14 | rangi | @later tell joubu im going to look at bug 11169, even tho its sorta acq, its sorta opac and it has a patch from you on it |
| 20:14 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | barton - is the borrower category filled in in the sysprefs? |
| 21:27 | for your self registration question | |
| 21:28 | barton | I'll have to check... I did see a bug report about that... |
| 21:28 | I guess it could be related. | |
| 21:29 | if the borrower category isn't set, it doesn't create a new borrower number perhaps? | |
| 21:30 | I'm pretty sure that they had some sort of restricted borrower for self registration though. | |
| 21:33 | mtj | hi #koha |
| 21:33 | thanks for that openssl heads-up mtompset :) | |
| 21:39 | mtompset | You're welcome./ |
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| 22:22 | eythian | @later tell ashimema there are two things: the -1 was dropped because Koha is effectively a debian native package (I plan to change that, one day.) There is a 3.16.00.1 because there was an issue with the package upgrade in 3.16.00. |
| 22:22 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:23 | eythian | hi cait. go back to bed. |
| 22:31 | cait | hi eythian |
| 22:31 | will soon :) | |
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| 23:36 | eythian | http://twentytwowords.com/comp[…]erviews-with-him/ |
| 23:39 | dcook | That is...a bit bizarre |
| 23:39 | wizzyrea | it's rather hilarious |
| 23:39 | * dcook | watches the video now |
| 23:45 | dcook | That IS hilarious\ |
| 23:59 | Whoa...crazy muscle memory... | |
| 23:59 | Wanted to see if I remembered the root password for a VM | |
| 23:59 | I barely had any idea, but I just willed it and it happened | |
| 23:59 | Still no idea what it is even after typing it out O_O |
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