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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:53 | mtj | hi #koha |
| 00:54 | ooh, this looks interesting -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Jc8-6UU4Q | |
| 00:56 | amazing that i have never spotted this till now... | |
| 00:58 | wow, i gotta save this for later today :0) | |
| 01:07 | . | |
| 01:07 | peeps, does anyone have a handy alias to delete a commit, in git? | |
| 01:08 | …where the commit is quite deep, and the commit SHA is known | |
| 01:09 | the best i have got via google is.. | |
| 01:09 | $ git rebase -p --onto SHA^ SHA | |
| 01:10 | its been running for about 5 minutes, still going... | |
| 01:13 | hmm, i think my git has a library thats missing | |
| 01:16 | actually... i think my server needs a reboot :) | |
| 01:35 | eythian | mtj: there's no such thing as "delete a commit" |
| 01:36 | except for rebasing, which then rewrites all the history following | |
| 01:36 | the closest safe thing is to revert it. | |
| 01:41 | dcook | Not sure why you'd want to delete a commit anyway O_o |
| 01:45 | I wouldn't mind renaming some commits so that they're easier to find later, but the whole history thing has become more obvious recently as I've been collaborating more on local projects | |
| 01:45 | mtj | i have a commit where i delete a directory… now i want that directory back |
| 01:45 | eythian | mtj: revert it |
| 01:46 | dcook | ^ |
| 01:46 | mtj | ok, will do :) |
| 01:46 | dcook | Then if you decide that you actually did want to delete it, revert the revert |
| 01:46 | rangi | you only need to delete if you accidentally put data that should never be public |
| 01:46 | theres a lot on github that should be deleted :) | |
| 01:47 | dcook | Didn't eythian post a link a while ago that shows the number of swears on github? |
| 01:47 | mtj | yeah, this is a def. a private repo |
| 01:47 | dcook | mtj: Revert will only undo the original commit. The info will still exist in the history of course |
| 02:06 | rangi | yeah you only need delete when you accidentally push your passwords or something, a revert doesnt help you then :) |
| 03:01 | mtj | what do peeps think about a script to update/freshen koha conf files, when upgrading? |
| 03:01 | afaik, its currently a manual task? | |
| 03:02 | eythian | mtj: now try it with zero risk of breakage. |
| 03:04 | mtj | heh, yeah… :) |
| 03:04 | atm, i'm just thinking of a quick/dirty script to use myself | |
| 03:05 | and manually fixing the breakage | |
| 03:06 | dcook | Sounds nice :) |
| 03:09 | mtj | how do other people in #koha handle this problem? |
| 03:10 | dcook | We use a script that updates based on a model, but I'm not responsible for that script, so not 100% on the deets |
| 03:12 | mtj | hmm, now i think of it… my solution is not that bad |
| 03:13 | eythian | we don't. if something actually needs it, we do it manually. |
| 03:13 | There was talk of making something that extracted all the user-configurable parts of the koha-conf and re-wrote it from template. | |
| 03:14 | mtj | yeah, thats basically what i'm thinking too |
| 03:14 | its not perfect, but its a start | |
| 03:17 | and track/restore your site-specific mods using git | |
| 03:23 | anyhoo… thanks for the guys. - i'll have a bit more of a think about it, over the week | |
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| 03:25 | mtj | dcook, any poss. of your script being submitted to koha? |
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| 03:39 | dcook | mtj: I sincerely doubt it. I've never even seen the thing. |
| 03:53 | mtj | all good |
| 04:04 | i thought i would be a fool to not ask you :p | |
| 04:04 | dcook | Hehe. Fair enough ;) |
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| 04:27 | paxed | ffs. whoever thought it would be good to order the categories-table by the categorycode? ugh. |
| 04:27 | (and Yet Another table with no id numbering? *rolleye*) | |
| 04:28 | rangi | i reckon you'd be better off just writing your own ils paxed |
| 04:33 | paxed | yes, ils with blackjack and hookers. |
| 04:35 | eythian | ID numbering is only needed when it's needed. If something naturally has a key, you don't need artificial ones. Also, tables aren't ordered. |
| 04:35 | Results are ordered, but there's no sensible way to think of a table as ordered. | |
| 04:36 | paxed | eythian: in other words, no way to reorder the table without changing the categorycode. |
| 04:37 | eythian | paxed: Short of imposing your own ordering on the results, "reorder the table" isn't a meaningful sentence. |
| 04:37 | Besides, I'd be inclined to sort the results by description. | |
| 04:38 | paxed | even that would be better than sorting by categorycode. |
| 04:39 | eythian | it'd be an easy change. |
| 04:59 | paxed | bug 12228 |
| 04:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12228 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Sort patron category by description not by code |
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| 05:51 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:51 | dcook | Yo magnuse |
| 05:53 | magnuse | yo yo yo dcook |
| 05:53 | wassup? | |
| 05:54 | time to leave work? :-) | |
| 05:55 | dcook | Not for another hour :) |
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| 05:59 | magnuse | yeah, guess i'm a bit early today |
| 05:59 | * magnuse | waves to BobB and BobB_ |
| 06:00 | BobB_ | only bobb_waves back :) |
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| 06:28 | * cait | waves too |
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| 06:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:39 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
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| 06:52 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:52 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 12, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:59 | gaetan_B | hello ! |
| 06:59 | rangi | hi gaetan_B |
| 07:02 | * magnuse | waves again |
| 07:03 | rangi | hiya magnuse |
| 07:03 | magnuse | hiya rangi |
| 07:03 | long time no see, it feels like | |
| 07:07 | rangi | yeah, both been busy I think |
| 07:08 | magnuse | yup |
| 07:20 | how can we get bug 11944 in? if it makes sense to the elders, it seems like the kind of thing that just needs to be pushed, and then have the kinks ironed out over time | |
| 07:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 07:20 | magnuse | first patch for 3.17 perhaps? |
| 07:28 | rangi | sounds like a plan |
| 07:28 | magnuse | yay! |
| 07:29 | it's the kind of bug where you sort of have to test *everything*, and that will never happen, of course | |
| 07:29 | rangi | yep |
| 07:30 | magnuse | hm, i guess it might be possible to have some kind of bot/spider that clicks on every link and looks for double encoded chars? |
| 07:31 | rangi | its hard to spot those, but possible to catch a lot |
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| 07:42 | ashimema | Hmm, still on my first foray into hosting a repository for our local deb packages.. any pro's here I could quiz? |
| 07:44 | rangi | you are using reprepro |
| 07:44 | ? | |
| 07:44 | ashimema | I am.. |
| 07:44 | and the repository.. sort of works. | |
| 07:44 | rangi | right |
| 07:44 | ashimema | but, when trying to install koha-common from it i get a whole host of 'Depends: *** but is not going to be installed' errors. |
| 07:45 | At that point, i'm stretching my understanings ;) | |
| 07:45 | rangi | ah ha |
| 07:45 | thats not your fault | |
| 07:46 | you still have the main debian repos eh? | |
| 07:46 | wheezy doesnt have some of the modules we need | |
| 07:47 | ashimema | aha.. I need to add the community repo along side my own repo don't I.. |
| 07:47 | rangi | exactly |
| 07:47 | and as long as your package is numbered higher | |
| 07:47 | ashimema | currently, just got wheezy, indexdata and our own.. but not community.. |
| 07:47 | awesome.. thanks rangi.. something so simple! | |
| 07:47 | rangi | it will use your koha-common, not the one in the community repo |
| 07:48 | ashimema | I was starting to feel rather stupid |
| 07:48 | magnuse | rangi++ |
| 07:49 | rangi | congrats on the belfast uni btw |
| 07:49 | ashimema | Cheers, I've still got some mopping up to do, but their pretty much live now... |
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| 07:50 | ashimema | they're a strange customer though.. normally we do loads of customisation of the opac for them to make it 'fit' their organisation.. they've stuck with bootstrap out of the box.. not even put anything in the css,js prefs yet.. |
| 07:50 | looks odd to me ;) | |
| 07:51 | rangi | yeah, thats kinda weird |
| 07:52 | ashimema | I'm sure they'll get to it. |
| 07:52 | rangi | do you know what ils they had before? |
| 07:52 | ashimema | one of the sirsidynix systems.. horizon I think.. |
| 07:53 | rangi | ahh that explains it |
| 07:53 | you could throw mud at a monitor and it would be prettier than that | |
| 07:53 | ashimema | one we do a huge number of migrations from ;).. having said that, on this occasion our partners in ireland did the migration part (InterLeaf Technologies).. we're just hosting, and adding shibboleth support (which I hoep to get bmcc to sign off son ;) ) |
| 07:53 | rangi | sweet |
| 07:53 | ashimema | hehe.. indeed. |
| 07:54 | shib still could do with a few more eyes to look over it.. but it's getting closer with every install I do of it. | |
| 07:54 | I know bywater have been testing is too | |
| 07:55 | hows the elastic stuff coming along.. I get excited eery time I hear one of you guys is working on it ;) | |
| 07:56 | rangi | its ticking along nicely eythian has been doing most of it lately in between his plack work |
| 07:56 | magnuse | eythian++ |
| 07:56 | ashimema | excellent.. too mighty important project.. plack and elastic.. that's great to hear |
| 07:57 | magnuse | OPL will be indexing their rdf in elasticsearch - i wonder if koha will be able to talk to that |
| 07:57 | or if it will mean a ton of config changes | |
| 07:57 | * magnuse | knows next to nothing about ES, yet... |
| 07:58 | rangi | magnuse: yep it will |
| 07:59 | its schema less, you can index rdf and marc in it .. also unimarc and marc21 etc | |
| 07:59 | and some dc | |
| 07:59 | and whatever else you want | |
| 08:00 | magnuse | but there will probably be different index names and so on? |
| 08:00 | rangi | there can be |
| 08:00 | its pretty much up to you | |
| 08:02 | the nice thing is catmandu makes it easy | |
| 08:02 | ashimema | next random packages question... how does apt count (in terms of version.. I've been following various instructions and have a package names '3.14.06~ptfs1'.. is that gonna be taken as above '3.14.06'..? |
| 08:02 | rangi | yep |
| 08:02 | ashimema | rangi++ for finding catmandu++ |
| 08:03 | :) | |
| 08:03 | rangi | i think magnuse found it first |
| 08:04 | ashimema | :) |
| 08:04 | magnuse | w00t :-) |
| 08:05 | it would be super awesome if koha could just use the rdf-indexed-in-es that opl will create | |
| 08:06 | ashimema | that'd be awesome. |
| 08:06 | rangi | i think its a possibility yeah |
| 08:07 | maybe a little work | |
| 08:07 | but the thing with es | |
| 08:07 | it hands out json results | |
| 08:07 | so its easy to build a frontend | |
| 08:08 | magnuse | it might be worth thinking about when opl does their development |
| 08:08 | if the two projects use the same kinds of names for things, it might be easier to interoperate | |
| 08:09 | ashimema | bloody tube strike a week back meant I missed a really interesting sounding meetup with some of the elastic search guru's over here.. |
| 08:09 | rangi | yep |
| 08:09 | ahh bummer ashimema | |
| 08:09 | ashimema | opl (oslo public library?) |
| 08:09 | indeed.. still, reading your code is interesting enough to start with.. | |
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| 08:14 | atheia | Hello all |
| 08:14 | ashimema | morning atheia |
| 08:14 | rangi | hi atheia |
| 08:15 | atheia | Morning ashimema, rangi |
| 08:15 | magnuse | opl is Oslo Public Library a.k.a. "Deichman" - see http://www.deichman.no/ for their website and http://digital.deichman.no/ for their tech blog |
| 08:15 | opl? | |
| 08:15 | wahanui | hmmm... opl is Oslo Public Library a.k.a. "Deichman" - see http://www.deichman.no/ for their website and http://digital.deichman.no/ for their tech blog |
| 08:15 | magnuse | hiya atheia |
| 08:16 | ashimema | :) |
| 08:18 | yeay, repo working perfectly now :).. that should make my testing of packages easier :) | |
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| 08:19 | atheia | hi magnuse! |
| 08:19 | ashimema | or rather.. helping others to test packages easier :) |
| 08:24 | rangi | sweet |
| 08:28 | magnuse | yay |
| 08:34 | * mtj_ | waves to #koha |
| 08:34 | mtj_ | hey rangi, did you end up buying a lappy in the US? |
| 08:35 | rangi | yep, got a system76 |
| 08:36 | mtj_ | just having a looky now... :) |
| 08:39 | * magnuse | waves to mtj_ |
| 08:39 | rangi | mtj_: got the galago |
| 08:51 | mtj_ | all the system76 models look awesome |
| 08:59 | ...world-wide shipping too :) | |
| 09:00 | rangi | yep |
| 09:14 | magnuse | ooh, they ship to norway :-) |
| 09:14 | then the one remaining problem is the keyboard... | |
| 09:55 | hm, i do wonder why i am not seeing any bibliographic info in results lists on current master? details looks normal. i have done a full reindex... | |
| 10:08 | ashimema | are you using the remote xslt settings at all.. |
| 10:10 | On second thoughts.. ignore that, bug 11826 hasn't been pushed yet. | |
| 10:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11826 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , Improving code for XSLT handling |
| 10:11 | ashimema | thought you may have foud a bug in it.. after all my testing ;) |
| 10:11 | somthing else must be the culprit | |
| 10:18 | magnuse | nope, no remote xslt :-) |
| 10:20 | havn't looked at the log yet, though | |
| 10:21 | "GetCOinSBiblio called with undefined record at ..." - looks like it is not getting the record from zebra the way it should? | |
| 10:24 | and one warning about "when" and "Smartmatch" per record | |
| 10:47 | * magnuse | waves to khall |
| 10:47 | khall | good day magnuse! |
| 10:48 | ashimema | hi khall |
| 10:48 | khall | hi ashimema! |
| 10:50 | * magnuse | tries a reboot |
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| 10:54 | magnuse | wow, when i connect with yaz-client and do "f something" i get "Memory segmentation fault (core dumped)" |
| 11:02 | oh well, lunchtime | |
| 11:02 | wahanui | i guess lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting |
| 11:02 | magnuse | so it is! |
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| 11:11 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 11:12 | magnuse: please have a look at bug 9612 followup | |
| 11:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9612 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , SRU Response is different when DOM indexing is enabled |
| 11:12 | marcelr | may explain your search results |
| 11:32 | markvandenborre | I am thinking about cover images |
| 11:33 | I have a consistent directory structure with one pdf per book, and I can reliably run a script to pull the cover page from those pdfs | |
| 11:34 | I guess there must be a way to import those cover images into the repo | |
| 11:34 | in one batch | |
| 11:34 | any suggestions on how to tackle that one? | |
| 11:34 | paxed | if i'm adding a new slip for printing, should the db entry go into updatedatabase.pl? |
| 11:34 | markvandenborre | I hope a more elegant answer is possible than sql |
| 11:35 | paxed | (in the patch, that is) |
| 11:35 | why would you add the book covers into the repo? | |
| 11:36 | if the cover images are in a predictable URL, you could just add the image url in the xslt | |
| 11:37 | marcelr | paxed: your db entry should go to updatedatabase for upgrades and into installer/../.sql for new installs |
| 11:37 | paxed | marcelr: so, both. |
| 11:37 | marcelr | yeah |
| 11:37 | markvandenborre | paxed: I'm trying to keep a koha install as standard as possible |
| 11:38 | marcelr | paxed: you will be happy to see that a new notice must be copied to 10 language folders.. |
| 11:38 | markvandenborre | maybe that is indeed the way to go... |
| 11:38 | paxed | marcelr: i know. which is stupid. |
| 11:38 | marcelr | true |
| 11:38 | i once tried something to remove that barrier, but alas | |
| 11:38 | paxed | markvandenborre: just copy the stock xslt, and set the syspref to use your own version of it. |
| 11:39 | markvandenborre | thx for the hint! |
| 11:40 | been 10 years since I touched any xslt, but should be possible | |
| 11:41 | jcamins | That's way more complicated than just using the built-in cover image feature. |
| 11:41 | There's an option to upload a zip file with all your cover images and an index. | |
| 11:41 | You'll have to do it in several batches because the maximum upload size is probably 5mb, but that shouldn't be too bad. | |
| 11:42 | I don't remember the exact format for the cover image index. | |
| 11:42 | It should be in the manual. | |
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| 11:48 | markvandenborre | jcamins: found it, sorry, should have looked at that more carefully first |
| 11:48 | and thanks | |
| 11:48 | fridolin | hie all |
| 11:51 | marcelr | hi fridolin |
| 11:51 | fridolin | hi marcelr |
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| 12:10 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:12 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
| 12:18 | ashimema | hey tcohen.. I've updated your repo guide on the wiki a tiny bit, just to get version numbering a bit more standard to debian... hope that not treading on toes. |
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| 12:20 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:20 | ashimema | hi oleonard |
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| 12:24 | tcohen | ashimema: np |
| 12:24 | looks good | |
| 12:24 | francharb | good morning #koha |
| 12:30 | ashimema | has anyone else ever noticed that during the installer login page, there's a 'Koha' link randomly positioned on the left side of the screen? |
| 12:30 | it's been there for ages.. I've never though to mention it before | |
| 12:31 | oleonard | CSS text offset from image replacement? Is your browser maximized? |
| 12:34 | ashimema | yup.. |
| 12:34 | and yup.. | |
| 12:35 | I have a widescreen monitor, so it's probably more prominent for me too ;) | |
| 12:36 | hmm.. test-indent: -1000px;.. why is it like that? | |
| 12:37 | paxed | i think that's a pretty common way of moving stuff "away" via css. |
| 12:37 | ashimema | why not just not have the text in the html in the first place? |
| 12:40 | oleonard | ashimema: It's a way to replace text with an image via CSS. |
| 12:40 | ashimema: It's intended to be more customizable and more accessible | |
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| 12:42 | oleonard | ashimema: On the other hand, the "-1000px" was implemented at a time when 1000px seemed like a reasonable number of pixels to push something offscreen. |
| 12:42 | ashimema | I see.. |
| 12:42 | oleonard | Progress. |
| 12:42 | wahanui | progress is probably good |
| 12:43 | ashimema | I've seen it an offset like that before.. never really like it.. seems cludgy.. but I've also never looked into the alternatives. |
| 12:44 | I don't really understand how it's more customizable really either.. | |
| 12:44 | oh well, I'll bow to the styling pro ;) | |
| 12:44 | magnuse | "visibility: hidden" or something like that wouldn't work? |
| 12:45 | oleonard | ashimema: Theoretically you could add something like #login h1 { background: url("my-custom-logo.gif") } |
| 12:47 | magnuse: I tried to pick a widely-accepted image-replacement method that had been well-tested. | |
| 12:49 | magnuse | oleonard: i trust you a 110% when it comes to css. just wondering... ;-) |
| 12:51 | oleonard | It's not unreasonable to think that there is a better method now. And if not, then "-5000" could always work for a couple more years ;) |
| 12:51 | * oleonard | demands that someone get him an Oculus Rift for Koha testing |
| 12:56 | ashimema | hehe.. |
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| 12:58 | ashimema | lost by the finickyness of css then.. as I thought you could do that anyway without the anchor 'Koha' text.. |
| 12:58 | eitherway.. it's not an especially important bug.. but a bug none the less in my eyes ;) | |
| 13:02 | * ashimema | wonders how caits course is going |
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| 13:03 | * druthb | has no doubt. Cait is awesome. |
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| 13:27 | tcohen | ashimema: would you take a look at the patches for bug 11404? |
| 13:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11404 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , add out-of-the-box support for Apache 2.4 |
| 13:28 | ashimema | will do tcohen. |
| 13:30 | nengard | hi all, is there a bug somewhere about not for loan items (aka on order items) showing in the holds queue? |
| 13:33 | ashimema | I've not come across one yet negard.. |
| 13:33 | but I'm 'no cait' when it comes to bugzilla ;) | |
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| 13:34 | nlegrand | hey koha o/ |
| 13:34 | ashimema | I've not come across one yet nengard.. |
| 13:35 | nengard | okey dokey |
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| 13:43 | nlegrand | I'm having a weird trouble with zebra biblios full reindexion, Zebra merge stop silently at =~ 20 %, It seems I have all items in the intranet, but nothing in the opac |
| 13:43 | does someone have an idea about it? | |
| 13:50 | ashimema | does it actually stop.. or is it still running.. I sometimes find the merge/commit actions of zebra take a very very long time.. but do eventually complete |
| 13:53 | nlegrand | ashimema: it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/Kjv6g5Xz |
| 13:54 | ashimema | ah, that really is a silent failure. |
| 13:54 | 'fraid I know no better then. | |
| 13:54 | nlegrand | :) thanks anyway |
| 13:54 | ashimema | try running it in verbose.. you may get a bit more info |
| 13:54 | sorry.. double verbose.. | |
| 13:54 | -v -v | |
| 13:54 | nlegrand | ashimema: it is verbose :( |
| 13:54 | ashimema | or even -v -v -v |
| 13:54 | nlegrand | ho ! |
| 13:54 | nice | |
| 13:54 | ashimema | ;) |
| 13:55 | nlegrand | I'm doing it right now :) |
| 13:55 | ashimema | it'll spit a hell of a lot onto screen... but with any luck the actualy error will appear for you :) |
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| 14:24 | ashimema | tcohen, those patches 'look' good to me, but I'm still no package expert. I'm building a set from them now to test they work as expected, but I'm not expecting any failures. |
| 14:25 | tcohen | ashimema: due to a bug in apache2-mpm-itk you need to first install it, and then koha-common |
| 14:26 | and to install it do: a2dismoe mpm-event ; a2enmod mpm-prefork ; apt-get install apache2-mpm-itk | |
| 14:27 | ashimema | had a feeling that would be the case.. |
| 14:27 | tcohen | there's nothing we can do about it |
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| 14:27 | ashimema | I'm not really sure what make koha require the specific apache stuff |
| 14:27 | tcohen | (koha-common depends on mpm-itk, which would fail to install unless you do those steps |
| 14:27 | ashimema | yeah, I've got into problems with that before. |
| 14:28 | tcohen | we need mpm-itk to implement the user-per-instance schema |
| 14:28 | ashimema | ah, I see. |
| 14:28 | tcohen | which we dont seem to be abandoning in a near future :-P |
| 14:28 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:28 | which, i think, makes sense for security? | |
| 14:29 | tcohen | exactly, other option would be to use setuid for the apache process |
| 14:29 | which I wouldn't | |
| 14:30 | ashimema | coolios.. I'll report back anything if I run into issue.. otherwise I'll go ahead and sign it off.. |
| 14:31 | nengard | I'm documenting the code in bug 9016 can someone tell me how 'feed' works? |
| 14:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9016 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Multi transport types for notices |
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| 14:36 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9724: ensure hourly loans show time due in SCO <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]989f3fbe542c47aaa> |
| 14:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1752 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 15:23 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:50 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 15:50 | * cait | waves |
| 15:53 | druthb | Hi, cait! *hugs* |
| 15:54 | cait | hi ruth :) |
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| 16:04 | talljoy | hi druthb great pic on the FB today! |
| 16:04 | windblown and sassy | |
| 16:04 | loved it | |
| 16:04 | jcamins in? | |
| 16:15 | ashimema | cait... your alive.. |
| 16:15 | how'd it go today? | |
| 16:15 | * ashimema | sends hugs to cait |
| 16:16 | cait | barelyy |
| 16:16 | ooh | |
| 16:16 | the server is still alive too | |
| 16:16 | that makes me happy | |
| 16:16 | ashimema | :) |
| 16:20 | pianohacker | hi ashimema° |
| 16:20 | ! | |
| 16:21 | ashimema | hi pianohacker.. lnog time no see. |
| 16:21 | hows uni? | |
| 16:21 | pianohacker | good, just walked! Doing summer session now |
| 16:22 | ashimema | 'just walked'.. is than another americanism? |
| 16:22 | pianohacker | (walked meaning graduated) |
| 16:22 | ashimema | oh.. awesome.. congrats. |
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| 16:22 | pianohacker | probably an americanism. Hell if I know |
| 16:22 | ashimema | does that mean we sohuld expect more of you here again now :) |
| 16:23 | druthb | thanks, talljoy—Sam caught me mugging for the camera, and it just Worked. |
| 16:23 | talljoy | it was. AWESOME. |
| 16:23 | pianohacker | ashimema: yup, should be in at least a bit more |
| 16:24 | ashimema | good news. |
| 16:24 | wahanui | hmmm... good news is it looks like it's running properly. |
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| 17:01 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1752: SUCCESS in 2 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1752/ |
| 17:01 | Owen Leonard: Bug 9724: ensure hourly loans show time due in SCO | |
| 17:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9724 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hourly loans don't show time due in SCO |
| 17:04 | oleonard | tcohen++ # nice response in the prog/CCSR removal thread |
| 17:06 | Dyrcona | Well, this is intriguing: http://aims.fao.org/community/[…]ry-system-ils-ove |
| 17:07 | Oh, then I see the co-sponsors..... | |
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| 17:40 | ashimema | that's interesting indeed.. as I thought they were one of our customers.. and running community |
| 17:43 | That really is interesting.. they've got links to koha-community.org all over the place.. but it's being presented by liblime... I'll go digging | |
| 17:55 | oleonard-away | Shouting "KOHA" is typical Liblime |
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| 18:19 | HdezCortes | Hola, necesito ayuda quisiera saber si alquien habla español ?? |
| 18:23 | markvandenborre | HdezCortes: sorry, can't help you, but I see that some people seem to be translating the manual to Spanish |
| 18:24 | maybe they can? | |
| 18:24 | HdezCortes | ok |
| 18:25 | when I enter my koha server freezes well http://200.88.48.100:8080/ | |
| 18:25 | do not know why he got so | |
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| 18:33 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 18:36 | HdezCortes | I have problem with my server got so koha and not for what reason if someone could help me?? http://200.88.48.100:8080/ |
| 18:40 | mtompset | HdezCortes: Which instructions did you follow? |
| 18:40 | (to install it) | |
| 18:42 | HdezCortes | KohaInstallGuide |
| 18:42 | mtompset | My guess is that you did a name-based installation which only listened to port 80, and that there is no mention of the IP address in your apache configuration files, so it just passes you back the OPAC all the time. |
| 18:43 | So why aren't you using http://whatever-the-name-is:8080/? | |
| 18:43 | where you change whatever-the-name-is to the correct name? | |
| 18:43 | HdezCortes | mtomset : pero koha esta funcionan bien y de repente se puso asi |
| 18:44 | mtomset but koha is working well and suddenly became so | |
| 18:44 | mtompset | Are you using a different machine? |
| 18:44 | HdezCortes | no |
| 18:45 | mtompset | If it is a corporate machine, do they reset the computers every month to a default installation to avoid viruses? |
| 18:46 | Oh... have you always used the IP address to access it? | |
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| 19:05 | nengard | oleonard got a question about your ebook styling code |
| 19:05 | oleonard | Sure |
| 19:05 | nengard | it doesn't work with track clicks turned on - is it as simple as escaping the ? with a / |
| 19:05 | in the URL check | |
| 19:06 | and if i make no sense i blame cold meds | |
| 19:07 | the URL is: http://MYLIBRARY/cgi-bin/koha/[…]blionumber=129144 | |
| 19:08 | I had var ohdbks_link = td.find("a[href^='http://www.gutenberg.org/etext']"); | |
| 19:08 | but that didn't work cause that's not how it starts | |
| 19:08 | and then var ohdbks_link = td.find("a[href^='http://MYLIBRARY/cgi-bin/koha/[…]enberg.org/etext']"); | |
| 19:08 | didn't work either | |
| 19:10 | oleonard | nengard: I don't know offhand, you'll have to do some tests and/or read the docs on how jQuery's find work |
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| 19:13 | nengard | :( that means thinking ... no thinking for this brain today :) |
| 19:18 | oleonard - fyi: | |
| 19:18 | var pgbks_link = td.find("a[href*='http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/']"); | |
| 19:18 | *= instead of ^= | |
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| 19:34 | mtompset | Greetings, sophie_m. |
| 19:35 | HdezCortes | Someone is in line |
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| 19:50 | pianohacker | hi taylorSchmidt! |
| 19:50 | all: taylorSchmidt is one of my group members on the field session project we're doing for Koha | |
| 19:50 | cait | hi pianohacker |
| 19:50 | is there a test installation with rancor maybe? | |
| 19:51 | pianohacker | cait: I can update my test server to the latest set of patches |
| 19:51 | cait | i was asked about a new better cataloguing module... |
| 19:51 | HdezCortes | Good I have problem with my server Koha Someone can help me?? |
| 19:52 | cait | pianohacker: ah, i thought maybe there was already something somewhere - worth asking :) |
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| 19:53 | pianohacker | And Dawa is the other |
| 19:54 | cait | hi Dawa and taylorSchmidt |
| 19:54 | what is the project about? | |
| 19:54 | pianohacker | khall: don't know where bag went but we have Dawa and taylorSchmidt here |
| 19:54 | cait: AngularJS-based AJAX circulation client | |
| 19:54 | cait | oh |
| 19:54 | interesting | |
| 19:54 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 19:55 | taylorSchmidt | Hey guys, happy to be here! |
| 19:55 | khall | bag had to run to the airport, he should be back soon I hope |
| 19:55 | pianohacker | rangi: ping :) |
| 19:55 | rangi | hey |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | we want to meet in #koha or break off into another channel? |
| 19:56 | rangi | might be easier in another |
| 19:56 | bag | I’m back |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | makes sense |
| 19:56 | khall | agreed |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | #fs ? |
| 19:56 | bag | #csmkoha |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | oh nvm |
| 19:56 | bag | nevermind :P |
| 19:56 | rangi | too late i already made one :) |
| 19:56 | bag | is right |
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| 19:57 | pianohacker | /join #kohaproject |
| 19:58 | Sean | In the borrower info on the left side (in checkout or when viewing a patron) is it possible to add expiration date (in the block of data beneath the phone, where name, address, home library, email, etc currently are)? |
| 19:58 | HdezCortes | Good I have problem with my server Koha Someone can help me?? |
| 20:06 | rangi | HdezCortes: we wont know if we can help or not, until you ask your question |
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| 20:11 | bag | bug 11703 |
| 20:11 | wahanui | bug 11703 is waiting for an answer, I started QA on it :) |
| 20:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable |
| 20:23 | HdezCortes | my koha server displaying a page that is not you have to show it can account at the following address 200.88.48.100:8080 |
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| 20:31 | rangi | HdezCortes: im not sure i understand you sorry |
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| 20:44 | jce | Hey there. Anybody on? |
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| 20:49 | cait1 | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:49 | huginn | cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.7°C (10:45 PM CEST on May 12, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:55 | pianohacker | leaving now, will check in later |
| 20:55 | cait1: I'll get rancor on my test server and let you know when it's up later tonight | |
| 20:55 | cait1 | ah |
| 20:56 | now he is gone... | |
| 20:56 | hm | |
| 20:58 | jce | So, anyone on here know anything about Koha? |
| 20:59 | mtompset | Greetings, cait1. How goes the QA processing? :) |
| 20:59 | cait1 | too busy for qa right now, maybe some later this week |
| 21:00 | mtompset | jce, people usually just ask the question, and if someone knows how to help, they'll say. Everyone here generally knows something about Koha. |
| 21:01 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 21:01 | bag | magnuse: HI |
| 21:01 | magnuse | :-) |
| 21:01 | mtompset | Also, jce, sometimes you're more likely to get an answer by asking the mailing lists. |
| 21:02 | magnuse, bag: Greetings! | |
| 21:02 | bag | :) |
| 21:02 | magnuse | hiya mtompset |
| 21:04 | jce | I'm working on a problematic Koha upgrade. Ubuntu 12.04, Koha 3.14. Created a new instance, trying to import old database. Tried 'sudo koha-mysql <instance> < Koha_Backup_localhost.sql'. Got "Access denied for user ... to database '<Name of old database instance> |
| 21:04 | rangi | edit the .sql |
| 21:04 | near the top it will have a line use old database | |
| 21:04 | take that out | |
| 21:05 | then it will stop trying to restore to the old database | |
| 21:06 | jce | rangi: (assuming you're talking to me, as that seems relevant) Thanks, I'll check that out. |
| 21:09 | Ok, it has a command to CREATE DATABASE <Old_Database> and a USE command. Should I get rid of them both? is '--' a comment in an SQL file? | |
| 21:12 | Assumed Yes and Yes, and it seems to be populating the database. Thanks for the help, rangi. | |
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| 21:19 | jce | Upgraded the database schema successfully. Now I'm going to try rebuilding the zebra index with 'sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v <instance>'. This is installed from Debian packages. Is it correct to sudo this from my regular user account, or am I supposed to log in (or su) as another user? |
| 21:20 | rangi | no, doing it from your account is ok, as long as you use sudo |
| 21:25 | jce | rangi: Thanks. Rebuilding now. |
| 21:25 | rangi | cool |
| 21:36 | jce | Next problem: The old username and password doesn't work for the intranet. This is an IP-based installation, it is not accessed over the Internet. I get the logon screen at localhost:8080, but the old username/password doesn't work. |
| 21:37 | rangi | login in with the one in the koha-conf.xml |
| 21:37 | mtompset | sudo xmlstarlet sel -t -v 'yazgfs/config/pass' /etc/koha/sites/{the instance name}/koha-conf.xml |
| 21:37 | rangi | and make a user, and give it superlibrarian permissions, then logout and login with that user instead |
| 21:37 | never use the password in koha-conf again after that (except if you delete your real user or something) | |
| 21:38 | mtompset | the system user name is koha_{instance name} |
| 21:38 | And follow rangi's advice. :) | |
| 21:46 | jce | Have to create a Patron Category. Do I make up an arbitrary category code? I assume Category type should be 'staff'. |
| 21:49 | rangi | doesnt actually matter at all |
| 21:49 | the permissions are what matter | |
| 21:50 | categorycodes dont really do anything, except give you more information | |
| 21:55 | jce | Ok, thanks rangi and mtompset. Created a user. Still getting no results from a search in OPAC on an author I know is in the holdings. |
| 21:55 | mtompset | Did you do a full reindex? |
| 21:55 | Always a good idea to do a full reindex after getting your data into an instance. | |
| 21:57 | jce | I did this: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v bcmc Does the instance include koha_ i.e. koha_bcmc? |
| 22:00 | It said: "Records exported: 3295" which is a plausible number. | |
| 22:01 | mtompset | If the instance didn't exist, you would know. :) |
| 22:03 | jce | That's what I thought. |
| 22:03 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 22:03 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 32.4°C (3:03 PM PDT on May 12, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:03 | bag | I’m melting |
| 22:04 | jce | I have this in /var/log/koha/bcmc/opac-error.log: [Mon May 12 16:55:39 2014] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/css, referer: http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/[…].pl?idx=au&q=borg |
| 22:04 | [Mon May 12 16:55:40 2014] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Mon May 12 16:55:40 2014] 404.pl: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 391., referer: http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/[…].pl?idx=au&q=borg | |
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| 22:11 | jce | FWIW, /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 391 reads as follows: opaccolorstylesheet => C4::Context->preference("opaccolorstylesheet"), |
| 22:12 | It looks as if some CSS stuff is missing from my installation, but that doesn't seem relevant to the problem of no results coming up in OPAC searches. | |
| 22:18 | eythian | hi |
| 22:18 | wahanui | privet, eythian |
| 22:21 | mtompset | Got to run. Bye. |
| 22:21 | Have a great day, #koha. | |
| 22:24 | bag | heya eythian |
| 22:24 | wahanui | go back to bed, eythian |
| 22:30 | eythian | I wish |
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| 22:35 | eythian | rangi or others: should a script in misc/load_testing be a dependency in C4::Installer::PerlDependencies? |
| 22:36 | I suppose it's an optional dependency | |
| 22:38 | rangi | yeah only optional |
| 22:38 | personally i think that that the load testing stuff should probably be its on repo | |
| 22:38 | eythian | Something has been added that isn't in debian, and I'm trying to avoid having to make a package for it :) |
| 22:38 | I think this'll be safe enough to blacklist. | |
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| 22:49 | bag | man it’s so hot here - I’m having a beer early today |
| 22:53 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 22:53 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (10:30 AM NZST on May 13, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:53 | bag | eythian: say you are in santa barbara and you could have a beer early with me :) |
| 22:53 | @wunder SBA | |
| 22:53 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Santa Barbara, California is 31.0°C (2:53 PM PDT on May 12, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 9%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:53 | eythian | sounds like a plan :D |
| 22:55 | OK, fingers crossed I have master building again and I can test the thing I was actually planning to test. | |
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| 23:05 | jce | The Wiki page 'Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages_long' says that "Koha 3.4.x or later no longer stores items in biblio records." and then shows how to rebuild the zebra index. So I assume that the index is stored in another table in the same database. What table is that? I'm still unable to get any search results, and I'd like to look in phpmyadmin and see if the new index is really there. |
| 23:06 | eythian | jce: "items" |
| 23:06 | it was always there, it's more that it's used a little differently post 3.4 | |
| 23:07 | jce | Thanks eythian. I'm now seeing a step I may have missed. I hadn't run koha-upgrade-to-3.4 |
| 23:08 | eythian | ah yep, that's reasonably important. |
| 23:08 | jce | :) |
| 23:08 | eythian | although, you should still get search results without having run it |
| 23:08 | just you're likely to get twice as many items | |
| 23:09 | jce | Hmm. I was getting nothing at all. Well, I'm running it now, so we'll see what happens. |
| 23:10 | eythian | it'll do a full zebra reindex when it's done, that may help things too. |
| 23:12 | dcook | bag: Jealous |
| 23:14 | jce: I haven't read too much scrollback, but... the item data and MARCXML bib record are stored in MySQL tables, while the Zebra indexes are stored in a Zebra db (which you can query using yaz-client) | |
| 23:15 | jce | dcook: Thanks. |
| 23:16 | koha-upgrade-to-3.4 completed, but still no joy. | |
| 23:16 | Thought for sure that would fix it. | |
| 23:16 | eythian | jce: try sudo service koha-common restart |
| 23:16 | make sure everything is running | |
| 23:19 | jce | Looks as everything is running (except SIP server, but I don't think we're using that.) |
| 23:19 | eythian | hmm |
| 23:19 | errors in /var/log/koha/whatever? | |
| 23:19 | especially the zebra files | |
| 23:19 | * dcook | is curious what was printed out while re-indexing Zebra |
| 23:20 | eythian | hmm yeah, any warnings there? |
| 23:21 | jce | Farther up the irc log I posted about some errors in /var/log/koha/bcmc/opac-error.log, but they seemed to pertain to CSS. I'll check the other stuff. |
| 23:21 | dcook | jce: Yeah, no worries about opaccolorstylesheet. It's an optional stylesheet. |
| 23:22 | jce | Records exported: 3295 |
| 23:22 | ==================== | |
| 23:22 | REINDEXING zebra | |
| 23:22 | ==================== | |
| 23:22 | 17:53:43-12/05 zebraidx(15082) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) | |
| 23:22 | ==================== | |
| 23:22 | CLEANING | |
| 23:22 | ==================== | |
| 23:22 | Zebra configuration information | |
| 23:22 | ================================ | |
| 23:22 | Zebra biblio directory = /var/lib/koha/bcmc/biblios | |
| 23:22 | Zebra authorities directory = /var/lib/koha/bcmc/authorities | |
| 23:22 | Koha directory = /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin | |
| 23:22 | BIBLIONUMBER in : 090$c | |
| 23:22 | BIBLIOITEMNUMBER in : 090$d | |
| 23:22 | dcook | Useful link for pastes: paste.koha-community.org |
| 23:22 | jce: Are you using UNIMARC or MARC21? | |
| 23:23 | rangi | yeah that looks like unimarc |
| 23:23 | in marc21 its 999c and d | |
| 23:24 | jce | Hmm. I thought we were using MARC21, but it's been long enough since I last worked on this, I may be wrong. |
| 23:26 | rangi | you could look in the db, check the marcxml field in the biblioitems table for a record |
| 23:26 | jce | So I may have a mismatch of my MARC record types between the database and the new server instance? |
| 23:26 | rangi | could be, the record didnt contain match fields is suspicious |
| 23:27 | jcamins | Looks like MARC21 from Koha 2.2. |
| 23:27 | Hi. | |
| 23:27 | rangi | hi jcamins |
| 23:28 | jcamins | git? |
| 23:28 | wahanui | git is, like, http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 23:29 | jce | Does this tell us what we need to know? "xmlns="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim">" |
| 23:29 | This system was first installed in 2008, so it could be that we still have junk left over from Koha 2.2. | |
| 23:30 | Though it has been upgraded a couple times since then. | |
| 23:30 | eythian | beware that many upgrades from 2.2 have had issues pop up further down the track |
| 23:30 | jcamins | Like this one! |
| 23:31 | But, also, problems with database structure. | |
| 23:33 | rangi | that person who was the release manager for 3.0 has a lot to answer for |
| 23:33 | jcamins | Including our Zebra configuration. |
| 23:34 | rangi | yep |
| 23:35 | jce | Looking back at my notes, the first install was in 8/07 on Ubuntu 7.04. |
| 23:35 | So, what would be my next troubleshooting step? | |
| 23:36 | jcamins | Unfortunately I'm not sure. I usually just export the MARC records, move the biblionumber and biblioitemnumber into the correct fields, and treat it like a migration. |
| 23:37 | eythian | OK, _this_ time maybe I'll have master building again. |
| 23:38 | jce | I've thought about installing Ubuntu 10.04 in a VM, reinstalling Koha 3.8 (which appears to be the previous version in use) and seeing if I can get it running that way again. |
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| 23:39 | jce | Would it be possible to do a migration with the database in the state it's in? |
| 23:40 | eythian | tcohen: oh, I just emailed you |
| 23:41 | rangi | jce: your idea of getting a 3.8 up is not a bad one |
| 23:41 | id do that, see if it is working there | |
| 23:41 | then you have time to do an export and migration into a 3.14 (or 3.16 when its released) | |
| 23:42 | you have the original backup still eh? | |
| 23:42 | jce | I was sort of hoping to avoid that, but I'll give it a try. |
| 23:42 | I do. | |
| 23:42 | rangi | if we we sure that the zebra/biblionumber mismatch is the only problem, you could try to fix that in place |
| 23:43 | but it might not be, .. for future, dont turn the old one off until the new one is tested and working :-) | |
| 23:43 | jce | Is there some documentation I should look at for migration? |
| 23:45 | Well, I hadn't planned on doing an upgrade at this time. I ran some Ubuntu updates and things didn't go well, so I decided it was time to upgrade the OS. This is a small library and they have only 1 machine for the server. But it's a point well taken. | |
| 23:45 | rangi | *nod* we run into that a bit too |
| 23:45 | 3.8.x will work fine with 14.04 | |
| 23:45 | you dont have to go back to 10.04 | |
| 23:46 | eythian | 14.04 on packages is currently problematic |
| 23:46 | jce | I'm using 12.04 ATM because of the package problem with 14.04. |
| 23:46 | rangi | well the cavaet with 14.04 is they changed apache versions and apache broke backwards compatibility |
| 23:46 | in its config files | |
| 23:46 | * eythian | is going to be testing fixes for this today, assuming master finally builds. |
| 23:46 | rangi | but yeah 12.04 would work fine |
| 23:46 | with 3.8.x, if thats easier | |
| 23:47 | jce | I'm actually setting Koha up for a second library as well, and was hoping to go straight to 14.04. |
| 23:47 | dcook | jce: As for migration, it depends on what you want to migrate over. |
| 23:47 | eythian | jce: well, all going well, we'll backport the fixes into 3.14. |
| 23:48 | jce | All they're using this for is a card catalog. They don't have any patrons defined, and they don't use it for check-outs. |
| 23:48 | eythian | unfortunately it's not going to be perfect, the debian apache packages have introduced some bugs. They can be worked around though. |
| 23:48 | jce | dcook: so we really just need to migrate the holdings. |
| 23:48 | dcook | jce: Sounds dead easy then. Dump the records out of it, run up a 3.8, import the records into that :). |
| 23:49 | Well, fix the records, I guess ;) | |
| 23:49 | Should be as easy as moving those 090$c and 090$d fields to 999$c and 999$d. | |
| 23:49 | Actually, you might not need to bother... | |
| 23:50 | eythian | this assumes your records are actually MARC21 |
| 23:50 | dcook | Yeah, there is that |
| 23:50 | jce | I'm pretty sure they're MARC21. |
| 23:50 | rangi | dcook: i wouldnt do it like that |
| 23:50 | id run up a 3.8 | |
| 23:51 | import the old backup | |
| 23:51 | check it works there | |
| 23:51 | then export the records from it, and load them into your new 3.14 | |
| 23:52 | ie, first id get it working with 3.8.x again so the library can work, then do the migration and test its all working ok, and then cut over | |
| 23:52 | dcook | Mmm, that's a good point. |
| 23:52 | Could run into problems if the item types, branches, and locations aren't the same... | |
| 23:53 | Those'll need to be re-created in the 3.14 as well | |
| 23:54 | jce | rangi: I think that's what I'll try. Would I be exporting the records from Koha or is that something I should do in phpmyadmin? |
| 23:54 | rangi | id export from your 3.8 |
| 23:56 | jce | So, should I change my package repositories, or just download a bunch of .deb files. The latter sounds like dependency hell to me. |
| 23:57 | Or should I use a tar ball? |
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