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| 00:20 | mtj_ joined #koha | |
| 00:47 | * pianohacker | should log off. |
| 00:47 | pianohacker | good night all |
| 02:02 | eythian | wahanui: tools is <reply>I HAVE NO TOOLS BECAUSE I'VE DESTROYED MY TOOLS WITH MY TOOLS. |
| 02:02 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 02:34 | eythian | wizzyrea: are you able to update http://koha-community.org/faqs[…]ch-stuff-up-help/ |
| 02:34 | ? | |
| 02:34 | cos the package command on there has issues | |
| 02:35 | wizzyrea: see the version I just sent to the list. | |
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| 03:16 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 03:16 | wordpress likes to try and be clever. | |
| 03:21 | http://koha-community.org/faqs[…]ch-stuff-up-help/ < looks better to me | |
| 03:22 | oh you want it to say koha-list eh | |
| 03:22 | eythian | nope |
| 03:22 | it pastes incorrectly | |
| 03:22 | wizzyrea | oh wait no you are getting the cached vrsion |
| 03:22 | eythian | ah |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea | ...how about now |
| 03:23 | eythian | still the old version |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea | sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v --full `/usr/sbin/koha-list` < what I get |
| 03:23 | eythian | –full |
| 03:23 | also, the best version is: | |
| 03:24 | wizzyrea | yeah in the email? |
| 03:24 | eythian | sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v --full $(/usr/sbin/koha-list) |
| 03:24 | (which is slightly different from what I emailed.) | |
| 03:24 | wizzyrea | oh good, because I was about to feel bad for making you do extra typing ;) |
| 03:26 | mtompset | Is there a nice URL to check book prices against a list of ISBNs? |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | well I've just dumped the cache - it looks ok for me logged out - is it still crabby for you? |
| 03:28 | eythian | that looks correct for me now. |
| 03:28 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 03:28 | I just turned off texturize for post content. | |
| 03:28 | figured we'd have more instances where we didn't want it than did. | |
| 03:29 | eythian | ah right |
| 03:29 | most likely | |
| 03:31 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11334: (follow-up) teach the search tests to mock the DisplayLibraryFacets syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8e2e3903b13404fc3> |
| 03:45 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1723 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1706 9 days 10 hr ago) |
| 04:15 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
| 04:43 | * wizzyrea | wishes for a koha-common --configtest |
| 04:44 | eythian | to do what? |
| 04:44 | wizzyrea | to check and see if I've done something dumb with a koha-conf file |
| 04:44 | eythian | you could xmllint it to start with. |
| 04:44 | that'll get you the initial information, anyway | |
| 04:44 | wizzyrea | as soon as I typed it I thought of that actually |
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| 05:17 | * cait | waves |
| 05:18 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:19 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 05:24 | eythian | @later tell magnuse can you check bug 12002, especially with bug 11998 applied? |
| 05:24 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:31 | * eythian | goes to hit people with swords |
| 05:31 | eythian | later all |
| 05:33 | cait | later :) |
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| 06:04 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 06:04 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 06:04 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1723: FIXED in 2 hr 20 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1723/ |
| 06:04 | Galen Charlton: Bug 11334: (follow-up) teach the search tests to mock the DisplayLibraryFacets syspref | |
| 06:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11334 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add facet for home library |
| 06:04 | cait | yay :) |
| 06:04 | gmcharlt++ | |
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| 06:47 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:47 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
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| 06:56 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:56 | wahanui | que tal, alex_a |
| 07:07 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:42 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:42 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on April 30, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:42 | magnuse | actually, it's snowing... |
| 08:33 | nlegrand | hiya #koha |
| 08:34 | magnuse: is it unusual at this time of the year? | |
| 08:56 | magnuse | nlegrand: not completely, but we have not had a lot of snow this winter, so we were kind of hoping we had seen the last of it. my wife is actually taking the car to a garage to take the winter tyres off today... |
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| 08:58 | cait | morning #koha |
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| 09:26 | nlegrand | hey cait o/ |
| 09:26 | magnuse: ha ha :) | |
| 09:27 | magnuse | :-) |
| 09:27 | cait | hi nlegrand :) |
| 09:44 | quiet today | |
| 09:58 | magnuse | shhh... |
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| 10:20 | cait | not supposed to wake someone up? |
| 10:34 | magnuse | you might awaken the trolls... |
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| 11:44 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 11:46 | @wunder Allschwil | |
| 11:46 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 13.2°C (1:46 PM CEST on April 30, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:55 | magnuse | hiya mveron |
| 11:55 | @wunder boo | |
| 11:55 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on April 30, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:55 | mveron | hiya magnuse :-) quiet today... |
| 11:57 | magnuse: If you have time I would appreciate a comment on my Proof of concept: Bug 12162 - Add class="branchcode" to body tag to make OPAC CSS-styleable per branch | |
| 11:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add class="branchcode" to body tag to make OPAC CSS-styleable per branch |
| 11:59 | * mveron | Waves to cait :-) |
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| 12:06 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 12:06 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0°C (2:00 PM CEST on April 30, 2014). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:06 | * cait | waves back :) |
| 12:06 | cait | we got the rain too :) |
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| 12:11 | francharb | good morning |
| 12:12 | * mveron | Has togo to buy some food |
| 12:12 | cait | have to do that today too |
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| 12:50 | tcohen | morning! |
| 12:50 | wahanui | morning is a state of the cait |
| 12:50 | cait | morning tcohen :) |
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| 13:05 | tcohen | firefox++ # awesome new look & feel |
| 13:09 | firefox++ # UI customizatio interface | |
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| 13:51 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.22.66.78 pasted "opinions?" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/16 |
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| 14:01 | tcohen | anyone can take a look at the text? |
| 14:05 | cait | tcohen: it lokos good to me - but not a native speaker |
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| 14:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
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| 14:35 | fridolin | hie all |
| 14:36 | just out from a international meeting with Olli | |
| 14:37 | * cait | waves |
| 14:37 | cait | fridolin: you are in finland? |
| 14:38 | fridolin | cait: no, it was a virtual meeting |
| 14:38 | ;) | |
| 14:38 | cait | ah :) |
| 14:38 | fridolin | Google Hangout |
| 14:38 | now I'm releasing 3.14.06. Critical Bug 12134 will be in | |
| 14:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12134 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Members are restricted even if the debarment is ended |
| 14:38 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:38 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #157: "wizzyrea: bbiaf -> I know that means be back in a few but my brain told me that meant be back in a fire oleonard: similar to the common ctaof, for Can't talk, am on fire" (added by wizzyrea at 04:38 PM, September 23, 2011) |
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| 14:41 | cait | fridolin++ |
| 14:41 | and hi gmcharlt :) | |
| 14:41 | gmcharlt | hi cait |
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| 14:42 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 14:45 | cait | hi mtompset |
| 14:45 | mtompset | Greetings, cait! |
| 14:45 | Just thought some people might get a laugh out of what some library patrons consider "violent". | |
| 14:45 | http://www.thespec.com/whatson[…]rary-patron-says/ | |
| 14:57 | cait | bye koha, bbl |
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| 15:17 | tcohen | #debian-mentors++ |
| 15:18 | liw | I tried to send my thoughts on Koha Debian apt package repository layout and related things, a couple of days ago, but it doesn't seem to have gone through -- would anyone be willing to forward that for me? |
| 15:19 | tcohen | liw: ye |
| 15:19 | s | |
| 15:19 | tomascohengmail.com |
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| 15:21 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:21 | liw | tcohen, thank you very much, I have sent the e-mail to you |
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| 15:27 | liw | tcohen, thank you :) |
| 15:27 | (cc received) | |
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| 15:28 | tcohen | yw |
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| 15:58 | mtompset | liw: http://youtu.be/D58LpHBnvsI (inconceivable!) ;) |
| 15:59 | liw | mtompset, one of the movies I like :) |
| 15:59 | mtompset | Inconceivable! ;) |
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| 16:01 | liw | mtompset, I don't think that word means what you think it means :) |
| 16:01 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 16:02 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 16:02 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 9.2°C (11:02 AM CDT on April 30, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 16:03 | gmcharlt | liw++ |
| 16:12 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.14.x build #31: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/31/ |
| 16:12 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12134: Add unit tests to reflect the change in IsDebarred | |
| 16:12 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12134: (follow-up) add more unit tests to reflect the change in IsDebarred | |
| 16:12 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 12134: (follow-up) fix one of the IsDebarred() tests | |
| 16:12 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12134: ensure that patrons are not restricted even when the last restriction has expired | |
| 16:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12134 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Members are restricted even if the debarment is ended |
| 16:12 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11655: koha-translate --list no longer shows 'en' |
| 16:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11655 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , koha-translate --list shouldn't show 'en' |
| 16:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #32 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
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| 16:43 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9865 (follow-up) give better usage examples in example SIPconfig.xml <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]882edbc2a0e70fe3a> / Bug 9865: make SIP msg encoding configurable via SIPconfig.xml <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff26b07de53cfd518> |
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| 17:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6273: (follow-up) fix various issues <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b912c0f40e08deb8b> / Bug 6273: add support for recording type of payment made via SIP2 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc05231e86283edf7> |
| 17:26 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
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| 17:27 | Sean | Hi all re. http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]25484&action=diff |
| 17:28 | how could we safely increase the # of facets displayed by default? | |
| 17:28 | specifically, # of branches | |
| 17:29 | cait | there is only one way - to increase the number of results that are looked at |
| 17:29 | gmcharlt | simple enough local change; beyond that, either a syspref or a code change that specifically displays all of the library facets |
| 17:29 | cait | it will only display the branches it finds in the first x results |
| 17:29 | gmcharlt | also, what cait said |
| 17:30 | cait | aah, you wee talking about the default |
| 17:30 | gmcharlt | two pieces of the same puzzle |
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| 17:30 | cait | gmcharlt: i was justlooking at the follow up for bug 6273 - do we need another for bootstrap? |
| 17:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6273 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , SIP2 Fee Paid and Fee Paid Response support |
| 17:30 | Sean | right, maxRecordsForFacets...but it only shows 5 by default, regardless of maxRecordsForFacets....if I changed Search.pm to, say, 10 instead of 6? |
| 17:30 | cait | I could try |
| 17:30 | i tihnk then i owuld just change the collapsed | |
| 17:31 | but changing in the code is always... you know | |
| 17:32 | Sean | Was wondering if there might be some jquery that could append &expand=branch#branch_id to search string, rather than do a naughty thing in code |
| 17:32 | cait | hmm |
| 17:33 | gmcharlt | cait: actually, looks like the patch for 2546 never got a Bootstrap version |
| 17:33 | cait | gmcharlt: ugh. |
| 17:33 | gmcharlt | if you want to address that and the follow-up needed for 6273, that would be great |
| 17:33 | cait | it might be a bit too big, but i can try |
| 17:33 | i will start with filing a bug | |
| 17:33 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 17:33 | cait | i am really keen on this change - hoping to finally get rid of my string replacing jquery :) |
| 17:34 | Sean: i thought that there was a setting in the facets configuration, but i think that changed since i last looked there, so forget the last comment | |
| 17:35 | Sean | yeah and no matter the maxRecordsForFacets, the results screen will only show 5 facets, and always show "show more..." |
| 17:35 | cait | Sean: a javascript doesn't appear easy to me, because there are so many links that can start a search hm |
| 17:35 | Sean | re. branches |
| 17:35 | cait | it would need to be quite clever i guess |
| 17:35 | Sean | yeah that's why I was hoping for the "append search string" angle, &expand=branch#branch_id |
| 17:35 | cait | or maybe not so hard, lookin for a link pattern |
| 17:36 | link contains (opac search bit) append parameter | |
| 17:36 | Sean | right |
| 17:39 | wondering how to go about adding the &expand=branch#branch_id bit | |
| 17:42 | cait | bug 12165 |
| 17:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12165 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add description of charges (bug 2546) to Bootstrap OPAC |
| 17:42 | cait | Sean: do you have some experience with jquery? |
| 17:43 | Sean | enough to get into trouble |
| 17:43 | cait | heh |
| 17:43 | i know that feeling | |
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| 17:43 | Sean | I'm up for a try :) |
| 17:43 | cait | i just thought |
| 17:43 | the links might be not too hard | |
| 17:43 | but you also want to sech what is sent from simple search and advanced search | |
| 17:43 | hm no oleonard around | |
| 17:44 | Sean | I think simple search is what would benefit staff most...do a quick search and quickly eyeball facets to see "who has how many of what" |
| 17:47 | gmcharlt | Sean: bug 11232 is relevant in the medium term, as one of the side effects of using Zebra to calculate facets will be to make library facets both more correct as well as easier to tweak |
| 17:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Retrieve facets from Zebra |
| 17:49 | Sean | thanks gmcharlt, but 11232 may be slightly separate from having the branch facet "show all" by default, rather than forcing "show all" (regardless of search results)? |
| 17:49 | currently it is hard coded to show only 5 branches, and one must click "show all". | |
| 17:49 | gmcharlt | right, they're not directly related, but library facets (and all other types) will become much more useful |
| 17:50 | Sean | thats good news gm :) |
| 17:51 | &expand=branch#branch_id appended to search results string expands those branches. we have displayFacetCount = show, so it would be really nice to have that branch facet show all branches, even if the facet shows LIBRARY FOO(0) | |
| 17:52 | but, the unecessary "show all" click is getting in staff's way :) | |
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| 18:10 | cait | sean.. hm if the branch has no results |
| 18:10 | i am not sur you can do that right now | |
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| 18:14 | Sean | cait: if staff didn't have to click show more, they would be thrilled. perhaps that's another way of putting my original question :) |
| 18:19 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.14.x build #32: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/32/ |
| 18:19 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.14.06 release | |
| 18:19 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11246: remove reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT files for Bootstrap OPAC | |
| 18:19 | * âÂÂByWater: Bug 11572: ensure that running Z39.50 search from staff search results detects ISBN | |
| 18:19 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11619: remove duplicate key in QueryParser config | |
| 18:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11246 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Stable , Followup for Bug 10465 fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT should be removed in bootstrap theme |
| 18:19 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11619: (follow-up) fix QueryParser.t |
| 18:19 | * Fridolin Somers: Update release notes for 3.14.6 release | |
| 18:19 | * Fridolin Somers: Increment version for 3.14.6 release | |
| 18:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11572 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Keyword searches no longer detect isbn from "Search the catalog" |
| 18:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11619 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Duplicate key in QueryParser config | |
| 18:22 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1724 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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| 18:37 | Sean | cait, got it to work on simple search |
| 18:37 | cait | cool :) |
| 18:37 | Sean++ :) | |
| 18:37 | Sean | how to see what else I broke by implementing it :P |
| 18:38 | cait | heh |
| 18:38 | you won't until you find it :) | |
| 18:38 | Sean | $("#cat-search-block").submit( function(eventObj) { $('<input />').attr('type', 'hidden') .attr('name', "expand") .attr('value', "branch") .appendTo('#cat-search-block'); return true; }); |
| 18:38 | sorry that looks messy but you may get the idea ? | |
| 18:40 | by slightly increasing maxRecordsForFacets this gives really useful initial results | |
| 18:40 | cait | adding a hidden input field:) |
| 18:41 | Sean | :) |
| 18:41 | cait | just reember the number in the facets will only be for the results looked at - so it might look off for bigger result sets |
| 18:42 | Sean | exactly. Looking forward to testing this out. Thanks for the sounding board! |
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| 19:59 | rangi | morning |
| 20:02 | cait | morning rangi :) |
| 20:03 | gmcharlt | hi rangi |
| 20:27 | cait | hm i think i need some help |
| 20:28 | http://paste.koha-community.org/17 | |
| 20:28 | i am trying to fix an additional space | |
| 20:28 | that appears before the comma | |
| 20:28 | for all cases, but the last case - because i moved the END to be directly after it | |
| 20:29 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1724: SUCCESS in 2 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1724/ |
| 20:29 | * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9865: make SIP msg encoding configurable via SIPconfig.xml | |
| 20:29 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9865 (follow-up) give better usage examples in example SIPconfig.xml | |
| 20:29 | * Ian Walls: Bug 6273: add support for recording type of payment made via SIP2 | |
| 20:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9865 normal, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , Make SIP2 message encoding configurable via SIPconfig.xml |
| 20:29 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 6273: (follow-up) fix various issues |
| 20:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6273 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , SIP2 Fee Paid and Fee Paid Response support |
| 20:29 | cait | so Res, ... but Writeoff , Writeoff |
| 20:29 | gmcharlt | cait: [%- IF account.description -%] |
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| 20:30 | cait | i thought i had tried that |
| 20:30 | sec | |
| 20:30 | hm doesn't work | |
| 20:31 | gmcharlt | try around the case and end as well |
| 20:31 | s/case/switch/ | |
| 20:32 | cait | i have tried putting them almost everywhere, will do another paste in a moment |
| 20:33 | aah | |
| 20:33 | the case did it | |
| 20:33 | i think | |
| 20:33 | cool thx :) | |
| 20:40 | [%- CASE ... -%] seems to be the working bit | |
| 20:44 | gmcharlt++ :) | |
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| 20:47 | alexwyatt | I'm trying out Koha for our school and I had an issue with import from our old system, Winnebago Spectrum (those of you who know that will know why we want to change!). Our barcodes are still in the metadata for the records, but they're listed under "Piece designation" and not "Barcode", so the scanner works to search for a book but not to check it out. Is there a way to remap that field (acquisitions would use the regular field so I'd prefer not to nuke i |
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| 20:55 | cait | hi alexwyatt |
| 20:55 | alexwyatt | hi. any sage advise? |
| 20:55 | cait | i wonderwhere the piece designation comes from - which marcflavour did you install? |
| 20:55 | also your message got cut off at nuke I | |
| 20:56 | alexwyatt | oh that was basically all of it. basically i just want to somehow map the piece designation to barcode without getting rid of barcode altogether (for future additions) |
| 20:57 | ideally i'd just want to either reimport everything (that part was easy) with some parameter or better yet, tell it to move all "piece designations" to "barcodes" and be done | |
| 20:57 | as for your questions | |
| 20:57 | marc12 i believe | |
| 20:57 | it was a little bit ago and i'm not the library expert, so i could be wrong. is there a way for me to look it up? | |
| 21:00 | cait | i wonder because i don't see piece desgination in my installation |
| 21:00 | could you check administration > systempreferences > marcflavor? | |
| 21:00 | maybe marcflavour | |
| 21:03 | alexwyatt | what section under preferences? |
| 21:04 | there's a bunch and i've tried about half of them so far! | |
| 21:04 | cait | use the search :) |
| 21:04 | and don't switch it | |
| 21:04 | just look what it says | |
| 21:05 | alexwyatt | **facepalm** completely skipped the search |
| 21:05 | marc21 | |
| 21:05 | that 12 i remembered was close lol | |
| 21:05 | (it was marcflavour btw) | |
| 21:06 | cait | i think it's ok |
| 21:06 | which marc field is piece designation? | |
| 21:07 | i mean where does it show up? | |
| 21:07 | and did you create items on importing or just the records? | |
| 21:07 | alexwyatt | well when i open a book and to go "edit record", it's under number 852. there's three things, h is "Classification part" (in this case it's "F Kle" for Fiction and author), p is "Piece designation" which has our barcode, and a is "Location", which is empty |
| 21:08 | i'm not sure what the difference between an item and a record is(?) | |
| 21:08 | cait | a record has the bibliographic information |
| 21:09 | a record can have n items | |
| 21:09 | alexwyatt | oh ok |
| 21:09 | cait | and the items are actually what is used for circ :) |
| 21:09 | alexwyatt | looks like it's just a record |
| 21:09 | cait | yeah i guessed it might be |
| 21:09 | i think you need to reimport creating items | |
| 21:09 | items? | |
| 21:09 | wahanui | well, items is library-speak for books. |
| 21:09 | alexwyatt | if i go into "items" in the catalog page it says there's zero |
| 21:10 | cait | hmmm |
| 21:10 | yeah | |
| 21:10 | you could create one, to see how it looks like | |
| 21:10 | koha used the 952 field for items on import | |
| 21:10 | you will want to add that to your records | |
| 21:10 | you can see a mapping in administration > koha 2 marc mappings > change pull down to items | |
| 21:10 | alexwyatt | yeah i kinda figured that when fait spelled it out earlier. record is just a description, item is inventory basically |
| 21:10 | cait | you want at least: a and b = the branch code of your library in koha |
| 21:11 | alexwyatt: wahanui is our bot - i was hoping he'd give me some docs by asking him for items :) | |
| 21:11 | alexwyatt | ahh ok |
| 21:11 | cait | probably also p and o, one is the barcode and one is the callnumber |
| 21:11 | and y = the itemtype | |
| 21:12 | that will be used for circulation rules | |
| 21:12 | there is something on the manual about the item fields i think | |
| 21:12 | and even if it's tempting - don't change the mapping in koha to 852 - it will just break things and make you unhappy :) change the data | |
| 21:12 | * talljoy | seconds cait. don't use 852 |
| 21:12 | alexwyatt | yeah i kinda figured that remapping might not be good |
| 21:13 | i'm perfectly ok with reimporting everything...heck i'd rebuild the server too (yay for VMs) | |
| 21:13 | but i have a feeling i could just apt-get remove koha-common and reinstall and bam...fresh | |
| 21:13 | if needed | |
| 21:14 | anyway... | |
| 21:14 | so the question is, how do i add it to a bunch of records at once? | |
| 21:14 | talljoy | not easily |
| 21:14 | alexwyatt | i mean we're talking almost 9k records, and we're a small library |
| 21:14 | aww man | |
| 21:14 | talljoy | i would suggest reversing your import |
| 21:15 | adding item records en masse to the marc records (using MarcEdit) | |
| 21:15 | and then reimport. | |
| 21:15 | alexwyatt | ok reverse import? can that be done at any time? |
| 21:15 | cait | it's a bit easierwith staged import |
| 21:15 | talljoy | as long as you haven't 'cleaned' the batch |
| 21:16 | cait | but you can nuke everything with bulkmarcimport too i think |
| 21:16 | talljoy | yes true that cait |
| 21:16 | cait | alexwyatt: how did you import? |
| 21:16 | talljoy | in Koha Tools or on command line? |
| 21:16 | alexwyatt | koha tools |
| 21:17 | cait | cool |
| 21:17 | talljoy | have you 'cleaned' the batch? |
| 21:17 | cait | don't click clean |
| 21:17 | talljoy | what she says! |
| 21:17 | cait | open the batch, and look for the undo button |
| 21:17 | alexwyatt | no i hadn't |
| 21:17 | cait | :) |
| 21:17 | talljoy | "Undo import into catalog" |
| 21:17 | alexwyatt | match item modification then? |
| 21:18 | or...wait | |
| 21:18 | i don't see an undo button | |
| 21:18 | nvm | |
| 21:18 | found it | |
| 21:18 | talljoy | phew |
| 21:18 | alexwyatt | yeah i was trying really hard to avoid the clean thing and i forgot to just click the batch name |
| 21:19 | cait | :) |
| 21:19 | alexwyatt | what's the red chat? i assumed it was private but i don't see that option |
| 21:19 | pretty sure it wasn't a "slap", but maybe it was lol | |
| 21:20 | talljoy | red chat? |
| 21:20 | alexwyatt | cait sent them to me. maybe they *were* private |
| 21:20 | talljoy | if they opened in a separate window, it would be a private message |
| 21:21 | alexwyatt | yeah i figured, the tabs look familiar from other things |
| 21:21 | anyway | |
| 21:21 | undo is complete | |
| 21:21 | cait | zebra might take a bit to catch up |
| 21:21 | talljoy | add your items to the file and then reimport them with no matching. |
| 21:21 | cait | so don't be too worried when the old entries still show in search |
| 21:21 | talljoy | right. |
| 21:22 | alexwyatt | k |
| 21:22 | talljoy | hey cait have you seen a recent bug regarding label creation? i'm getting the same error as in BZ6673 in master and in 3.14 |
| 21:22 | cait | hm sec |
| 21:22 | alexwyatt | adding items to file...you mean re-export from the original? |
| 21:23 | talljoy | depends alexwyatt |
| 21:23 | alexwyatt | sorry for my ignorance...i'm used to being the one who knows what to do lol |
| 21:23 | talljoy | do you have 852 tags (items?) in your marc file? |
| 21:23 | cait | talljoy: hmno seen no problems like that |
| 21:23 | alexwyatt | talljoy you just did the red thing i asked about. maybe it's just because i was on a different window |
| 21:23 | cait | we have a few patches about labels waiting for qa, but totally different things |
| 21:23 | talljoy | cait can you create labels from a batch? |
| 21:23 | alexwyatt | hmm... |
| 21:24 | talljoy | alexwyatt, dunno about the redchat. |
| 21:24 | alexwyatt | oh well lol |
| 21:24 | talljoy | but if you have 852's you can use Marcedit to swap the subfields from 852 to the appropriate 952 subfields. |
| 21:24 | i.e. mapping your old items to new items | |
| 21:24 | cait | changing the import file you created before might be easiest |
| 21:24 | talljoy | or you can just add a 'stub' item record to every single record 952$a<branch>$b<branch>$y<itemtype> |
| 21:25 | alexwyatt | agh never considered an intermediate solution. let me look... |
| 21:25 | talljoy | what sytem are you coming from alexwyattt? |
| 21:25 | (please don't say Follett) | |
| 21:25 | alexwyatt | then i guess i won't answer? |
| 21:25 | pre-follett really | |
| 21:26 | talljoy | winnebago? |
| 21:26 | alexwyatt | yep |
| 21:26 | talljoy | bingo |
| 21:26 | okay. | |
| 21:26 | your item type is actually stored in a 961 tag | |
| 21:26 | alexwyatt | kinda figured that might be the problem |
| 21:26 | talljoy | one sec... let me look at something |
| 21:26 | alexwyatt | ok |
| 21:26 | sure | |
| 21:26 | i'm gonna install marcedit brb | |
| 21:26 | (on another computer...) | |
| 21:28 | talljoy | okay. alexwyatt your itemtype is in the 961$t tag/subfield. This will need to be moved to the 952$y itemtype subfield. |
| 21:28 | you probably only have one branch so use that branchcode in the 952$a and 952$b | |
| 21:29 | alexwyatt | we've got two branches actually |
| 21:29 | talljoy | your callnumber is in the 852$h - this goes in the 952$o. Your barcode is in 852$p - goes in 952$p Your price info is in the 852$9 and it goes into 952$v and 952$g |
| 21:29 | alexwyatt | so....what should i do with that? this import is only for one branch though |
| 21:29 | talljoy | two branches. you'll have to look at the 852 tag and determine the subfield has that branch info and use that for the 952$a and 952$b |
| 21:30 | if the import is just one branch, just assign all the items with the one branch information. | |
| 21:30 | alexwyatt | hmm ok. actually it's a little more complicated now that i think of it. we're not branched currently...but we want to be. we have a separate server in each building but want just one accessible in both |
| 21:30 | so...does that change your answer any? | |
| 21:30 | talljoy | You will want to be sure your itemtypes and branchcodes have been created in Koha before you import your records. |
| 21:30 | alexwyatt no. | |
| 21:31 | if you know the file you have only contains one branch's items, just assign the branchcode to all items. | |
| 21:31 | I recommend starting with the barcode in 852$p. Move (or swap) that to the 952$p. | |
| 21:31 | then move the other subfields as needed. | |
| 21:31 | cait | talljoy++ |
| 21:31 | alexwyatt | talljoy is this red? i might have figured it out :) |
| 21:31 | talljoy | you may need to take care for bibliographic records that have multiple items |
| 21:32 | alexwyatt | at least for me, it seems to be whenever someone says the name. anyway, i'll copy down your steps! |
| 21:32 | talljoy | cait I'm lots of fun at library parties! I ask what system you use and then I launch into "Let me tell you what's odd about your data" |
| 21:32 | alexwyatt | LOL |
| 21:32 | talljoy | alexwyatt this is logged as well so you can always find it later! |
| 21:33 | alexwyatt | oh yeah i know |
| 21:33 | easier to just have it though | |
| 21:33 | cait | talljoy: you are fun :) |
| 21:33 | talljoy | fun fact: Mandarin stores patron data in Marc format |
| 21:33 | cait | talljoy: that is not a _fun_ fact |
| 21:33 | talljoy | sadly, for me, it is! lol |
| 21:33 | like a bit of data that is so so ugly, it's kind of pretty. | |
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| 21:36 | jcamins | talljoy: wake me when you find an ILS that stores library branch information in MARC. |
| 21:36 | talljoy | ooooo..... |
| 21:36 | that sounds familiar..........maybe i've seen that. let me think! | |
| 21:36 | i've seen vendors in marc format | |
| 21:36 | jcamins | There's a MARC format especially for community institutions. |
| 21:37 | alexwyatt | speaking of ugly data....man this thing isn't even called a marc file...hope it actually is one lol. i need to spend some time just figuring out how to use marcedit so i might be back later this week. thanks for the help folks! |
| 21:37 | talljoy | yours is probably called microlif. |
| 21:37 | same thing | |
| 21:38 | alexwyatt | oh good |
| 21:38 | talljoy | as marc. shouldn't be an issue |
| 21:38 | alexwyatt | it's pretty nasty looking, that's all i know |
| 21:38 | have a good one | |
| 21:38 | talljoy | marc was not meant to be pretty |
| 21:38 | alexwyatt | lol |
| 21:38 | talljoy | heh |
| 21:38 | good luck! | |
| 21:38 | alexwyatt | **gulp** |
| 21:38 | hopefully i don't need it! | |
| 21:38 | cait | talljoy: well.. like you said, it#s so ugly... is starts being a bit pretty again |
| 21:38 | talljoy | right! |
| 21:41 | mtompset | -- musical flashback: (http://youtu.be/RgHtBxOs4qw -- "I feel pretty...") |
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| 22:14 | cait | So we label F = Fine, what do we want to label FU? |
| 22:14 | Updated fine? | |
| 22:14 | Accrueing fine? | |
| 22:14 | gmcharlt | acrrued |
| 22:15 | cait | accrued? :) |
| 22:15 | gmcharlt | yeah, Acrruded fine |
| 22:15 | gah | |
| 22:15 | Accrued fine | |
| 22:16 | cait | gotit :) |
| 22:16 | got it | |
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| 22:33 | cait | hm can't believe i am asking... but where did we move the hold fee to? |
| 22:33 | ooh patron category | |
| 22:33 | wahanui | patron category is in the works ... gimme a sec. |
| 22:37 | eythian | hi |
| 22:37 | wahanui | privet, eythian |
| 22:38 | cait | wizzyrea: i was looking at 11573 earlier - I signed off your patches, could you maybe take a look at my follow up? I added a dependency to 12165 that adds the display logic to bootstrap - hope it's ok :) |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea: so we have the same display everywhere now... hopefully | |
| 22:53 | wizzyrea | bug 11563 |
| 22:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11563 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Class noEnterSubmit no longer functioning |
| 22:53 | wizzyrea | bug 11573 |
| 22:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11573 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , change description of charges in account fines |
| 22:53 | cait | also feel free to obsolete my patch - i can redo it on another bug |
| 22:54 | hm wrong number | |
| 22:54 | bug 12165 :) | |
| 22:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12165 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add description of charges (bug 2546) to Bootstrap OPAC |
| 22:55 | cait | i should go to sleep before i create more mess - night! |
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| 22:56 | eythian | is there a way to merge users? i.e. if I have two user accounts belonging to one person, and I want to move everything to do with one of those accounts into the second...is there a nice way to do that? |
| 22:57 | rangi | not that i know of |
| 23:02 | * wizzyrea | checks, but is skeptical |
| 23:05 | wizzyrea | no good way to do that no. |
| 23:06 | merge borrowers would be a nice feature, could do it with borrower lists like we do with bibs | |
| 23:06 | now that we have those. | |
| 23:08 | eythian | yeah |
| 23:08 | though, I bet it's super uncommon | |
| 23:19 | wizzyrea | I think it would not be uncommon in consortia |
| 23:19 | or at least, the wish for it would not be uncommon. | |
| 23:19 | it would, however, be totally fiddly with fines and reserves and such. | |
| 23:20 | and history and... | |
| 23:20 | notices and... |
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