IRC log for #koha, 2014-04-18

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05:53 quocuy Hi all
05:54 i installed koha 3.14, but because of translation, i remove koha 3.14, reinstall koha 3.12
05:55 and now my server got error with zebraidx
05:56 when i run " sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f hiast " i got error
05:56 zebraidx(2896) [warn] Failed to open /var/lib/koha/hiast/biblios/register/reci-0.mf [Permission denied]
05:57 problem is, the file reci-0.mf does not exist. And i'm running with root, no problem about permission.
06:03 in zebra-error.log, i got this "hiast-koha-zebra: client (pid 3507) killed by signal 15, stopping"
06:03 anyone can help?
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06:20 quocuy hi all
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06:50 reiveune hello
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06:59 alex_a bonjour
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07:11 gaetan_B hello
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07:47 fridolin hie all
07:55 cait hi frido
07:55 hi #koha
08:11 @wunder Konstanz
08:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on April 18, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
08:16 cait hm git broken?
08:20 khall++
09:25 fridolin fyi i've changed my smartphone for the Motorola Moto G, with Android Kitkat. Juste super cool phone and not expensive. There are only a few bynow with 4.4 aka Kitkat
09:29 cait mmh kitkat
09:29 ;)
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10:22 cait good morning khall
10:23 khall mornin cait!
10:51 cait :)
10:51 i need a native speakers opinion again
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12:30 Topic for #koha is now Next general meeting is 7 May 2014 at 15:00 and 21:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes.
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12:38 oleonard Hi #koha
12:40 cait hi oleonard :)
12:40 and oleonard++
12:40 oleonard Yes, yay for me! I got out of bed this morning!
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13:16 cait oleonard: we got a new module on the qa list - housebound 5670
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13:22 rambutan @wunder 64507
13:22 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 5.1°C (8:20 AM CDT on April 18, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Falling).
13:23 rambutan @wunder boo
13:23 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on April 18, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
13:24 cait oleonard: i was wondering if you could take a look at the template parts of it
13:24 oleonard Yes I would be happy to
13:24 cait the buttons don't look right to me
13:25 hm but i am only looking at the code so far - i will post some notes a bit later
13:25 hm also dates
13:40 oleonard Why the atomic update script rather than updatedatabase?
13:41 cait not sure, i  htink he inherited the code
13:41 i will note and ask for a 'real' update
13:42 alex is new, he started shortly after marseille
13:42 oleonard How do you run an atomic update script?
13:42 just... run it?
13:42 cait i think you just.. run it
13:42 but i haven't tried myself
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13:48 oleonard The new preferences are ending up in "Local use"
13:48 ...and default to "on"
13:49 cait hm yeah, because they are not in sysprfs
13:49 and should be on for new, off for existing?
13:50 oleonard Do we typically enable new features by default for new installations?
13:50 cait i thik we did for some in the past, modules at least
13:50 wonder what we do for course reserves
13:50 hm but this is not strictly a module maybe... more a big feature?
13:51 i will have to take a closer look sec, building my branch :)
14:01 oleonard cait: Lots of template issues which I will submit a follow-up for
14:02 cait ah thx oleonard! i am doing a code review with splinter now, but will leave the templates to you, woudl that work?
14:02 oleonard Yes.
14:03 cait will do
14:03 oleonard The test plan makes it sound like adding the "day" and "frequency" authorised values is optional but it doesn't look like it is. Probably should be handled in the database update.
14:04 cait ok, i am stil looking at the code, will try to remember to check
14:20 oleonard: hm as i see it, yo uhave to have new patron records for the volunteers?
14:21 ah no, misread
14:21 hm no i haven't
14:21 oleonard Haven't gotten that far I guess
14:22 cait hm not sure i like the approach taken :(
14:26 @qoute search VARS
14:26 huginn cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes
14:26 cait hm
14:26 how do you look up a quote again?
14:26 druthb @quote search bacon
14:26 huginn druthb: 2 found: #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon..." and #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!"
14:27 cait @hmm
14:27 huginn cait: I suck
14:27 druthb @quote random
14:27 huginn druthb: Quote #244: "'If you really didn't do it yourself, then yes, the only other conclusion is you were/are hacked by someone who likes to upgrade Koha'" (added by mtj at 10:37 PM, April 30, 2013)
14:27 cait @quote search *VARS*
14:27 huginn cait: 1 found: #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} -..."
14:28 cait right, this one
14:29 druthb @quote get 135
14:29 huginn druthb: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011)
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14:46 cait oleonard: have you figured out what should go into day?
14:46 would that be something like Sunday, Monday, etc?
14:46 oleonard I assume days of the week
14:47 cait hm that could go into the template
14:47 be translatable
14:47 oleonard Unless it could be something like "third thursday of the month" or something like that
14:53 Looks like the delivery entry form only accepts iso-formatted dates
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14:59 cait oleonard: yeah something about the dates looked wrong
15:00 the housebound page has no heading
15:00 for your notes :)
15:00 oleonard Yeah, got that one. Cleaned up some YUI-era button styling too.
15:00 *shudder*
15:02 cait ah, i thought those looked wrong
15:02 at least my gut feeling works today ;)
15:04 hm i wonder if some of the input fields would be better as textboxes
15:04 looking at the housebound details
15:10 gmcharlt: sorry for missing that :(
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15:15 gmcharlt no worries, that why we keep lots of eyes around
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15:16 cait hi mario
15:17 mario hey cait
15:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5670 new feature, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Signed Off , Housebound Readers Module
15:32 oleonard In fact my library does already use the 'HB' patron category, but since we use it for Housebound patrons it would be okay for us :)
15:32 gmcharlt cait++
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15:34 oleonard cait++
15:37 druthb cait++
15:38 gaetan_B bye !
15:38 cait oleonard: by looking at this, i realized we have alot of very different ways to add a patron to something, havne't we?
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15:38 oleonard :)
15:38 cait the ones i can think of:  holds = autocomplete, routing lists  = modal, patron lists = ?, guardian search...
15:45 bag heya gmcharlt oleonard and cait
15:45 oh yeah hey there too druthb - didn't see you sneak in
15:45 gmcharlt hi bag
15:47 cait hi ba
15:47 hi bag
15:47 * druthb is sneaky
15:48 cait oleonard is sneaky too :)
15:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11955: Remove spaces in empty indicators when linking an authority to a biblio... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5399239385c377c90> / Bug 12071: improve generation of Z39.50 search links <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]57f0af94d3422731e> / Bug 11258: fix another case where holds queue made transfer requests t
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16:23 cait oups
16:23 closed wrong window
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16:24 cait oh is the log bot dead?
16:26 oleonard A symptom of rangi's upgrade?
16:27 cait guess so
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16:39 gmcharlt testing
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16:41 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "test" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1
16:41 gmcharlt all better now
16:42 cait gmcharlt++ :)
16:48 oleonard I could have been shooting my mouth off all morning and didn't take advantage of it.
16:49 * cait hands out cookies
16:52 reiveune bye
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18:04 gmcharlt cait++
18:11 francharb Is it possible to use the matching rules with the authorities import tool
18:11 ?
18:11 jcamins Yes.
18:13 francharb jcamins, have you ever tried it? I'm trying with "Local-Number" index but it doesnt work
18:14 right now, I'm trying with the heading index
18:14 jcamins francharb: yes, but if you're not using QP, you don't have access to regular indexes.
18:14 francharb so, it's a yes with QP
18:14 jcamins No, it's a yes in both cases.
18:14 You're just limited to the indexes Koha supports for authorities.
18:15 Without QP, there are three indexes supported by Koha.
18:15 Check SearchAuthorites for the list.
18:15 francharb thanks!
18:15 you answered my question before I asked it
18:15 ahah
18:16 thanks jcamins
18:16 jcamins You're welcome.
18:18 @later tell mtompset I have no opinion on bug 9551. CSS should be included in the order necessary to make overrides work properly.
18:18 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
18:58 druthb NateC:  http://www.spacex.com/webcast/  # T minus 26-ish
19:08 rambutan http://www.spacex.com/webcast/  <- I can't get more than a few seconds before it times out
19:11 druthb fat_pipes_to_the_interwebs++
19:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10533: move JavaScript functions for basket groups to a separate file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3e0c36e58f988b161>
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19:59 rambutan anybody noticed any circulation.pl problems with 3.14?
20:00 specifically consuming CPU time?
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20:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12098: (follow-up) put can_show_subscription() into use <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9994883e04b61cb67> / Bug 12098: (follow-up) deal with FIXMEs in t/db_dependent/Serials_2.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]43405898c21380926> / Bug 12098: Refactor can_*_subscription in C4::Serials <http://git.koha-communit
21:09 New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12003: Do not calculate next pubdate for irregular subscriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e6373b9a8c8615bdc>
21:19 New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11689: (follow-up) fix another warning when running Serials.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ce9590c07f7da9ec> / Bug 11689: (follow-up) fix warnings generated when running Serials.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]595ff0d2ab4c2e5fc> / Bug 11689: Add unit tests for serials statuses <http://git.koha-community.
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21:21 Sean Loan rule question: library A has a default all rule with a hard due date. The "all libraries" table has a default all rule for a 3 week checkout for the same patron/item type. Which rule is supposed to take precedence?
21:24 cait A
21:24 all rules is a decault, it's overwritten by the more specific rule for an individual library
21:27 Sean Thanks, cait. We're wrestling these rules for our lone academic library where items from other libraries are checking out with a hard due date, when they should have the default all loan rule applied (3 wks)
21:28 cait there is a note on top of the page in which order the rules should apply
21:28 Sean Is it correct that we cannot apply a loan rule based upon owning library? That is, only those items owned by the academic library would have the hard due date, while items owned by all other libraries use the default all rule?
21:29 cait which rules apply is set in the system preferences
21:29 Sean saw the note, for some reason I glossed over the "first found" portion of it :)
21:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11752: display the correct frequency for serial subscriptions in OPAC details <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4582a3e1bc913ecd>
21:29 cait you should take a look at homeor holding branch
21:29 but there are several
21:31 HomeOrHoldingBranch
21:31 Use the checkout and fines rules of
21:31 the library the item is from
21:32 hsould make this work i think
21:33 Sean thanks, cait, yeah we use homeorholding branch = "Use the checkout and fines rules of the library the item is from" yet the hard due date was still applied to an item not owned by the academic library
21:34 cait hmm
21:34 it's a bit hard to tell
21:35 does the academic library use the same itemtypes as your library?
21:35 Sean yes
21:35 cait hm i was wondering if we could secure this a bit more
21:35 which version are you using?
21:36 Sean On further inspection I think I might be seeing some holes in the loan rules of the holding library, though. we're on 3.14.03.000
21:36 cait i was hoping we could try that first
21:36 making the rules more specific
21:37 if it really doesn't work... and it should, you can file a bug
21:38 Sean can do, thanks a lot cait!
21:38 cait i mean according to the preference it should totally be possible to make tha twork
21:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11416: fix case where serials item editor was incorrectly hiding fields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3918b843761481c36>
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21:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11148: (follow-up) add more test cases <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aee437556eed680b1> / Bug 11148: (follow-up) restore useful test removed by previous patch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6e1fba024a5f76e59> / Bug 11148: Add a as_due_date parameter to the output_pref routine <http://git.koha-community.org/
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22:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10090: display item type description instead of code on acq ordered and spent... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8e2bf5b03ad666b57> / Bug 11914: fix two issues when creating an order from a suggestion <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1bcbac106ee534c92>
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22:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11680: (follow-up) fix unexpected tax rate changes on edit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c5e83971d0717592a> / Bug 11680: fix case where tax rate changes unexpectedly on editing an order <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53666f62f809f0861>
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22:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9578: avoid a search crash when attempting to sort results of invalid query <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4bae12f0342b776ad> / Bug 9578: add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3fa624574d13fe7ff>
23:32 New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11231: remove reference to ambiguous notes column from two hold request reports <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]32f1a46aec1ccb1c4>
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