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| 02:48 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 02:48 | Was there a patch pushed recently that add owners to budgets? | |
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| 04:55 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. |
| 04:55 | cait | hi mtompset |
| 04:55 | i saw your question in the logs | |
| 04:56 | bug 12019 is related to the owners being added | |
| 04:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12019 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , funds displayed on acquisition home show funds of all branches |
| 04:56 | mtompset | I've had intermitment oddness when I upgrade and my funds don't have an owner yet. |
| 04:56 | cait | yes |
| 04:56 | it's a bug in my opinion, a bad one | |
| 04:58 | mtompset | Oops... just re-reading my patch on bug 5010. |
| 04:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Incomplete links in carts and lists sent from the staff client |
| 04:58 | mtompset | I think I missed a tiny bit at the end. :( |
| 04:59 | or beginning. | |
| 04:59 | I'll fix it up, and then head to bed. :) | |
| 04:59 | cait | i have to run out in a minute, hope to work my way into the pile of qa things and bugs i have sitting in my inbox this week |
| 05:03 | good night mtompset | |
| 05:03 | mtompset | Good day (24 hour period). :) |
| 05:51 | All should be good on 5010 now, cait. | |
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| 06:13 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:13 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
| 06:27 | mtompset | Hello and au revoir, reiveune. |
| 06:28 | reiveune | :) |
| 06:28 | mtompset | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha reiveune |
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| 07:21 | ashimema | Good morning #koha |
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| 07:49 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 08:40 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:40 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.9°C (10:40 AM CEST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:59 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage, uk |
| 08:59 | huginn | ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 11.3°C (9:52 AM BST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:59 | ashimema | behind you by 0.6 of a degree cait... |
| 09:29 | cait | hey ashimema |
| 09:29 | wahanui | ashimema is on qa now .) |
| 09:29 | cait | excellent wahanui ;) |
| 09:29 | ashimema | hi cait.. |
| 09:29 | who did that.. cheeky ;) | |
| 09:30 | how did meeting all go last week.. i havn't had a chance to go over the logs yet.. | |
| 09:30 | prague was lovely thouhg ;) | |
| 09:30 | cait | i think you just said: ashimema is... |
| 09:30 | i think it went well | |
| 09:30 | dev meeting next week - with elections | |
| 09:30 | i was travelling too | |
| 09:31 | ashimema | module maintainers is still of interest to me.. look like a number of people have now volunteered.. |
| 09:31 | cait | yep |
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| 10:02 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 10:15 | cait | hi mveron :) |
| 10:15 | mveron | hi cait :-) |
| 10:16 | khall | good day cait! |
| 10:17 | cait | hi khall! |
| 10:17 | nice to have you around again - how is being a dad? :) | |
| 10:18 | khall | very different ; ) More diaper changing, less sleep ; ) But it's worth it! |
| 10:19 | cait | :) |
| 10:35 | khall: thx for the qa :) | |
| 10:36 | khall | np! |
| 10:37 | cait | especially 9593 |
| 10:37 | the unit tests are a good idea | |
| 10:39 | paxed | bah, bgkriegel sniped my bug. |
| 10:40 | cait | is that a happy or an unhappy bah? |
| 10:41 | paxed | cait: bug 12072 - ... slightly miffed, i guess. now it looks like i copied off of his patch :P |
| 10:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12072 major, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy |
| 10:41 | cait | only thing i wondered i think was if there is an official name to 'our' dateformat |
| 10:41 | paxed | i don't think there is |
| 10:42 | i used 'dmydot' | |
| 10:42 | cait | maybe something like isodot |
| 10:42 | ah. yeah, dmydot would also be a bit more self explanatory | |
| 11:00 | mveron | Hi khall :-) Concratulations to the young family! |
| 11:01 | Congratulations.. | |
| 11:01 | khall | thanks mveron! |
| 11:01 | mveron | Enjoy the time - it goes fast. My daughter is already 23... And was a baby short ago... |
| 11:03 | khall: I just commented on Bug 11630 (Age restriction for Finland). | |
| 11:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , AgeRestrictionMarker doesn't handle marker immediately followed by age |
| 11:04 | khall | thanks for the feeback! |
| 11:04 | mveron | Welcome... |
| 11:04 | wahanui | Welcome to zombo.com |
| 11:05 | mveron | wahanui: :-) |
| 11:05 | wahanui | mveron: huh? |
| 11:05 | paxed | i may have time to revisit the patch for that bug eventually, but for now, it works for us, so it'll have to do. |
| 11:06 | we should be live in less than 2 months, and there's still plenty to change. | |
| 11:06 | mveron | Hi paxed :-) |
| 11:08 | paxed | 'lo |
| 11:12 | cait | mveron: i was looking at the patch again, and I think kyle has a good point that it would be cool to verify the old strings still work in addition to the new variation |
| 11:13 | as we recently had a bug where the new feature broke the old feature... similar to this | |
| 11:14 | a routine trying to figure out the price from the marc record | |
| 11:15 | really a bit torn about this one... | |
| 11:19 | khall | mveron: if you are willing to move the code to a sub ( e.g. ParseAgeRestrictionMarker ) , I'll write the unit tests. |
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| 11:29 | mveron | khall ++ |
| 11:29 | cait ++ | |
| 11:30 | :-) | |
| 11:31 | cait | khall++ |
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| 11:35 | * mveron | Has to head away |
| 11:35 | mveron | By #Koha |
| 11:37 | cait | paola++ |
| 11:41 | Joubu++ also # bug 11944 | |
| 11:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
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| 12:07 | khall | I've added a patch to move the code to a sub and added unit tests for bug 11630, but I think it may be best if we had another qa'er go over my work. |
| 12:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , AgeRestrictionMarker doesn't handle marker immediately followed by age |
| 12:07 | khall | unit tests pass and test plans work |
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| 12:13 | * chris_n | looks for input on bug 8797 from anyone experiencing those symptoms |
| 12:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8797 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, In Discussion , can't delete quote of the day |
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| 13:16 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 13:16 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -0.9°C (8:16 AM CDT on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from midnight tonight to 9 am CDT Tuesday... |
| 13:16 | rambutan | @wunder boo |
| 13:16 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:23 | rambutan | @wunder whitehorse canada |
| 13:23 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Whitehorse, Yukon Territory is 1.0°C (6:00 AM PDT on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:24 | rambutan | ha! colder here than in the Yukon, and we have .5" of snow. |
| 13:24 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 13:24 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.7°C (3:15 PM CEST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:31 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 13:31 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 23.3°C (8:31 AM CDT on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect from 10 am this morning to 9 PM CDT this evening... |
| 13:34 | kivilahtio | our desktops perform better than our server |
| 13:34 | which is kinda lame | |
| 13:35 | searching for a keyword "koira" is 3x faster on AMD Bulldozer than on Intel Xeon | |
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| 13:41 | kivilahtio | also configuring servers is hard :) |
| 13:47 | rambutan | hard? |
| 13:48 | kivilahtio | rambutan: hard :) |
| 13:48 | rambutan: do you find it easy? | |
| 13:48 | rambutan | well, yes, normally |
| 13:48 | kivilahtio | rambutan: I would call it enigmatic |
| 13:51 | rambutan | maybe Windows servers, but Linux is normally a piece of pie. |
| 13:51 | kivilahtio | rambutan: top says that apache processes CPUs run at 100% when doing searches. Disk I/O is at ~0%, zebra and mysql at very low consumpiton. Power saving mode was on, thus CPU'h clocked to 1200MHz, now I managed to disable power saving and CPUs clock at 2900 MHz, but the difference in search time is neglible. Dropped from 15s to 10s. |
| 13:51 | but on my desktop, the same search takes 4s | |
| 13:51 | liw | whether something is hard or easy depends on what you know, it's not a universal absolute |
| 13:51 | kivilahtio | liw: so true :) I don't know enough |
| 13:51 | liw | kivilahtio, also, heippatirallaa |
| 13:52 | kivilahtio | liw: but I can try try try. Heippatirallaa vaan |
| 13:52 | rambutan | how much memory do you have? |
| 13:52 | kivilahtio | rambutan: 128GB |
| 13:52 | rambutan | reallly? |
| 13:52 | kivilahtio | rambutan: RAID1 ssd's on HP Raid controller |
| 13:53 | which btw work quite poorly | |
| 13:53 | might have to break the raid on them | |
| 13:53 | also 2x8core with hyperthreading so ubuntu says 32 cores :D | |
| 13:53 | rambutan | what cpu do you have? |
| 13:53 | kivilahtio | I think we should have enough juice to run our library |
| 13:53 | rambutan: model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz | |
| 13:53 | rambutan | definitely. if it's not running well there's a problem somewhere |
| 13:54 | kivilahtio | I agree |
| 13:54 | rambutan: I am using lxc with koha separated to distinct containers | |
| 13:54 | zebra + opac + staff_cleint + mariadb | |
| 13:54 | all communicates via unix sockets | |
| 13:54 | should be super fast | |
| 13:54 | rambutan | that stuff should all work well together on the specs you have |
| 13:54 | kivilahtio | the desktop is on KVM |
| 13:55 | beats this server | |
| 13:55 | so why is the search time 3x slower :) | |
| 13:55 | jcamins | kivilahtio: you have lxc communicating via domain socket? I didn't know that was possible. |
| 13:55 | kivilahtio | jcamins: using shared mounts |
| 13:56 | jcamins: so I prepared small 1GB partitions to share sockets | |
| 13:56 | jcamins: and then bind mount those directories | |
| 13:58 | jcamins: like this http://pastebin.com/3ScndBtW | |
| 13:59 | jcamins | kivilahtio: https://github.com/dotcloud/docker/issues/2891 |
| 13:59 | kivilahtio | but when I run stress tests, all I get is 100% cpu load for the search pages |
| 13:59 | oh noes | |
| 13:59 | jcamins | Wait, it's 15s when under heavy load? |
| 13:59 | kivilahtio | under zero load |
| 13:59 | when under heavy load it is more then 45s | |
| 13:59 | jcamins | Okay, that's what I thought you were saying. 15s under heavy load would be fine. |
| 14:01 | kivilahtio | but it doesnt explain the 100% CPU time on apache processes |
| 14:02 | apache processes should be idle? if accessing sockets is really slow | |
| 14:02 | jcamins: thanks for the tip, I'll try without bind mounitng | |
| 14:13 | rambutan | you might ask on #virt (OFTC). Nobody seems to talk there, but they have a lot of people logged on. |
| 14:17 | kivilahtio | rambutan: thanks! I have almost reconfigured so lets see! |
| 14:17 | rambutan | you migh also watch virt-top if you don't already |
| 14:20 | does "cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler" show noop? | |
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| 14:21 | rambutan | or deadline? |
| 14:21 | wahanui | i think deadline is today. The more the merrier I think. I should check times. |
| 14:22 | oleonard | wahanui is trying to scare people |
| 14:24 | kivilahtio | rambutan: I am using lxc without libvirt |
| 14:24 | rambutan: noop [deadline] cfq | |
| 14:25 | rambutan: whatever that means | |
| 14:25 | rambutan | noop and deadline are recommended for ssd arrays |
| 14:25 | kivilahtio | rambutan: I did stress tests on the ssd-array as i had a gut feeling it might not work as well as expected |
| 14:25 | rambutan: I got some crazy results and cpu usage went off the roof | |
| 14:26 | rambutan: I lost the results during a OS reinstall, but I have been thinking of breaking the ssd-array | |
| 14:26 | and just running DB and Zebra on single ssd's | |
| 14:26 | they have the durability counters so they can be changed before they break | |
| 14:26 | +binary log forsafety | |
| 14:27 | rambutan | it deals with the scheduler, in reading right now I see that cfq may not be the best |
| 14:27 | you might check these slides: | |
| 14:27 | http://www.slideshare.net/dgut[…]ing-linux-servers | |
| 14:27 | kivilahtio | rambutan: the disk i/o from iostat said 0% |
| 14:28 | I mean the disk utilization was almost 0% | |
| 14:28 | and it wrote maybe 110kB/s | |
| 14:33 | no effect from moving from unix sockets to tcp :( | |
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| 14:36 | * cait | waves at rocio |
| 14:36 | rambutan | do you have a test system you can play with? |
| 14:37 | kivilahtio | some :) |
| 14:37 | rocio | hey cait! |
| 14:38 | kivilahtio | rambutan: time is something I don't have :) |
| 14:43 | zebra search times are absolutely minimal, like 0.03s and zebra is the one running on ssd, others on hdd's | |
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| 16:01 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 16:02 | oleonard | Hi mtompset |
| 16:03 | mtompset | Greetings, oleonard. :) |
| 16:04 | bkg is making it hard to stay on top for April sign offs. :) | |
| 16:17 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:31 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11846: DBrev 3.15.00.029 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a15b097707d5d66be> / Bug 11846: Correct database update for restrictions with date 9999-12-31 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]750d744ed1f91dd85> / Bug 7143: Updating history with new developers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ha.git;a=commitdi |
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| 17:21 | chris_n | anyone noticed this: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/[…]rite.html#logging |
| 17:21 | * chris_n | guess not since head has the rewrite log lines commented out |
| 17:28 | mtompset | I think that is more of a tcohen question. ;) |
| 17:39 | oleonard | Dear staff member who types "NO PHONE NUMBER" into the phone number field: I hope you're haunting me from the past, not the present. |
| 18:20 | mtompset | Poor oleonard. :) |
| 18:28 | oleonard | select count(*) from borrowers where phone like 'no%'; 162 |
| 18:33 | gmcharlt | @later tell cait bug 11947 deserves quick QA |
| 18:33 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:37 | oleonard | Bah. Batch patron modification doesn't let me clear phone number. |
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| 18:44 | mtompset | Don't put empty string, put space. ... or better yet, just do it in MySQL directly. :P |
| 18:47 | oleonard | mtompset: Batch patron modification doesn't offer the option of modifying phone number at all. |
| 18:47 | mtompset | oh, well that seems like a useful enhancement. |
| 18:48 | oleonard | mtompset: And as a hosted customer I don't get to run direct MySQL queries willy-nilly (which is, I'm sure, entirely proper) |
| 18:49 | mtompset | Ah. |
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| 18:54 | francharb | hello |
| 18:54 | oleonard | Hi francharb |
| 18:54 | * cait | waves |
| 18:54 | * francharb | waves oleonard and cait |
| 18:56 | mtompset | greetings, cait. |
| 18:56 | Greetings, francharb. | |
| 18:56 | francharb | o/ mtompset |
| 18:56 | mtompset | What is the maximum of items for a biblio anyone has ever seen? |
| 18:56 | max number of items... | |
| 18:56 | cait | it can grow to a lot when you have serials |
| 18:57 | or textbooks in a bigger university | |
| 18:57 | i think could be a few hundred then | |
| 18:58 | mtompset | Okay... So 1000 is a safe upper limit of items to add for a biblio at any given time? |
| 19:03 | cait | hm it hsould not be a hard limit I think |
| 19:04 | not sure about the context? | |
| 19:07 | mtompset | bug 10473 |
| 19:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10473 major, P1 - high, ---, amitddng135, In Discussion , Max length should be 2 digit for adding multiple copies in add items page |
| 19:07 | mtompset | Trying to think of a reasonable way to calculate a soft upper limit. |
| 19:08 | I figure if they have an empty DB, they won't be adding more than 1K items for a given biblio. | |
| 19:08 | But perhaps that it too low. | |
| 19:08 | -- bus time... need to pick up my son. | |
| 19:08 | cait | hm |
| 19:08 | i think adding is different | |
| 19:08 | because yo will not want to add more than x at a time | |
| 19:08 | while the total might be high | |
| 19:08 | I'd think | |
| 19:59 | mtompset | Got to run... |
| 19:59 | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha cait druthb francharb | |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | oleonard: there are lots of things batch mod doesn't let you do |
| 21:10 | oh he's gone away | |
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| 21:25 | francharb | bye all |
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| 22:33 | eythian | hi |
| 22:33 | wahanui | hello, eythian |
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