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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 01:08 | dcook | Hmm... I have a Koha on a remote server but I want to play with its metadata... |
| 01:08 | I think this might be a job for Koha RESTFUL API | |
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| 01:10 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 01:10 | wajasu | hi |
| 01:10 | wahanui | hey, wajasu |
| 01:10 | wajasu | i fall for that every time. |
| 01:11 | dbs | rangi: hey, I've been talking about koha's # of systems (minimum estimate) for a while now! |
| 01:12 | (Estimate being a minimum of 2,500 libraries, via the breeding thing; couldn't find better official stats when I went through the koha-community web site / wiki) | |
| 01:14 | dcook | dbs: If the Breeding thing says a minimum of 2,500, I can only imagine the actual number |
| 01:15 | We have about 100 libraries alone, iirc, and we're a rather small org | |
| 01:20 | dbs | dcook: right. Which is why I say "minimum estimate". |
| 01:21 | If you want to publicize a larger number, you need to make it easy for authors to find so they can publicize it. | |
| 01:22 | dcook | dbs: Totally. I wasn't criticizing. Just stating my awe of the unknown ;). |
| 01:24 | mtj | hey mtompset, which bugs did you want me to take a look at, yesterday? |
| 01:24 | mtompset | bug 10823 and bug 10825 |
| 01:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10823 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , add class info to enumchron data in detail.tt, for better styling |
| 01:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10825 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , detail.tt displays duplicated enumchron values for serial items | |
| 01:24 | mtj | also, attn: perl n3rdz, -> http://www.infoq.com/interviews/conway-perl |
| 01:25 | mtompset | basically, I believe 10823 just needs your sign off, and my sign off, and then QA can take it. |
| 01:25 | Then 10825 needs to be dependent on 10823. | |
| 01:25 | mtj | mtompset, no no .. which of *your* bugs :) |
| 01:25 | mtompset | Oh... let me check again. |
| 01:26 | bug 11797 | |
| 01:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11797 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , auth_finder.pl: Odd number of elements in anonymous hash |
| 01:26 | mtj | the above DC interview is pretty grate ^^ |
| 01:26 | mtompset | bug 11253 |
| 01:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11253 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , tools/inventory.pl output_pref ignores 'iso' parameter passed |
| 01:27 | mtj | ok |
| 01:27 | dbs | dcook: no worries, quantifying open source project installs that don't include a phone-home mechanism is known hard territory :) |
| 01:29 | eythian | https://www.humblebundle.com/ <-- type:rider is the sort of game that would appeal to people here. |
| 01:36 | mtj | have any keyboard nerds have a go at -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]mplified_Keyboard ? |
| 01:38 | i've always been curious, but never got round to it | |
| 01:38 | eythian | Yeah, I used to use it. |
| 01:38 | It was fine, though a bit tricky with vim. | |
| 01:40 | * dcook | is rather pleased with his typing abilities with a qwerty keyboard. He would love to know what it would be like to use a...more efficient keyboard (with adequate experience/skill/knowledge, of course) |
| 01:41 | mtj | i guess any new keyboard style requires lots of time investment, before it starts to pay off |
| 01:42 | dcook | Or you could just learn Matrix style |
| 01:42 | That would be convenient] | |
| 01:42 | mtj | eythian, the type:rider game looks very classy |
| 01:43 | eythian | The learning phase sucks. |
| 01:43 | (of the keyboard, not the game.) | |
| 01:43 | (the game is pretty straightforward.) | |
| 01:44 | I think the game would work better on a tablet than a phone though. | |
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| 03:00 | eythian | how disappointing, you can't have a mandatory yet hidden field in a framework. |
| 03:02 | dcook | Hmm, that is disappointing |
| 03:10 | You know what isn't disappointing? | |
| 03:10 | Listening to the discography of a band you love and finding songs that you didn't know existed before | |
| 03:12 | eythian | heh |
| 03:12 | that's always good | |
| 03:28 | dcook | dpavlin++ |
| 03:28 | For documenting the HTTP API and creating that sample client | |
| 03:33 | I'm really looking forward to upgrading from 3.8... | |
| 03:34 | Using the bib and report services, a person could actually get some good stuff done | |
| 03:50 | * magnuse | waves, then wanders off to catch a plane |
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| 04:05 | mtj | dcook, i'm really looking fwd to trying out some of that new stuff too :) |
| 04:05 | dcook | \o |
| 04:05 | Ack | |
| 04:05 | \o/ | |
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| 04:23 | eythian | bug 12023 is an easy one for someone. |
| 04:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12023 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Web installer fails under plack |
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| 04:41 | * cait | waves |
| 04:42 | mtompset | eythian: Why C4? |
| 04:42 | Why not Koha? | |
| 04:42 | eythian | mtompset: I didn't actually think of that. |
| 04:43 | But, it is old-style code that references a lot of C4 things, so it might be best in C4. | |
| 04:43 | mtompset | Okay. Just was thinking out loud. :) |
| 04:43 | eythian | It doesn't matter too much either way. I'll see what others say. |
| 04:43 | mtompset | I don't have plak installed. |
| 04:43 | set up or whatever. | |
| 04:43 | eythian | Anyway, I'm feeling a little hazy after a flu shot, so I'm going home. |
| 04:44 | mtompset | Is there a wiki page somewhere? |
| 04:44 | eythian | for what? |
| 04:44 | mtompset | plack? |
| 04:44 | wahanui | Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. |
| 04:44 | eythian | there |
| 04:44 | mtompset | Yes, yes there is. |
| 04:54 | cait | bag++ |
| 04:55 | get better eythian | |
| 05:08 | mtompset | Can someone clarify what /srv/koha is supposed to be in the plack instructions? |
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| 05:20 | cait | ? |
| 05:20 | mtompset | The plack instructions were clearly written by programmers. :P |
| 05:21 | I think I figured out that problem, and have moved onto the next one. :) | |
| 05:21 | I was hoping it would be explicit about where the psgi file goes. | |
| 05:22 | I think I'll give up and go to bed. | |
| 05:23 | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha cait | |
| 05:23 | wajasu | mtompset: don't worry about 11909. i am seeing if i can write facets in 11232. |
| 05:24 | mtompset | okay, wajasu. |
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| 06:42 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:12 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:12 | wahanui | kai ora, alex_a |
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| 07:28 | tarsem | hello |
| 07:28 | wahanui | que tal, tarsem |
| 07:28 | tarsem | i need hepl about zebra rebuld |
| 07:29 | how to rebuild zebra | |
| 07:29 | plz tell me | |
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| 13:04 | grharry | Hi, is there a way to stage a file of marc records from the server command line ... instead of downloading it to the PC and then upload it again via the staff web interface ???? |
| 13:05 | jcamins | grharry: yes, look for stage_file (or something like that) in misc. |
| 13:07 | grharry | jcamins: thanks !!! |
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| 13:52 | rhcl | @wunder 64507 |
| 13:52 | huginn | rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 4.7°C (8:50 AM CDT on April 02, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:59 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 14:07 | mjkerpan | hello koha fans |
| 14:08 | quick question: is there a way to allow self-checkout/checkin users the choice of using either a card or a username/password or can the system only handle one method at a time | |
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| 14:09 | oleonard | both seem to work when I try it mjkerpan |
| 14:09 | francharb | morning! |
| 14:09 | wahanui | morning is a state of cat |
| 14:10 | francharb | whatever it means, good to know |
| 14:10 | mjkerpan | oleonard: so the users have an option? good |
| 14:12 | oleonard | Tested in master mjkerpan |
| 14:12 | mjkerpan | my club library is getting ready to deploy koha for the checkout of video materials and there's been debate about how to access the system |
| 14:13 | i can't test at the moment as koha is intranet-only at our clubhouse. | |
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| 14:16 | dustin | hello |
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| 14:16 | dustin | Can someone help me with my koha installation on debian? im having one problem. |
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| 14:27 | oleonard | paxed around? |
| 14:27 | paxed | yes? |
| 14:27 | oleonard | Please classify Bug 12024 as a bug (rather than an enhancement), assign to yourself, and set to "needs signoff" if it is ready for testing. |
| 14:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12024 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add to list opens the list adding UI in two windows |
| 14:30 | paxed | done |
| 14:30 | oleonard | Thanks! |
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| 15:06 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:41 | oleonard | jcamins around? |
| 15:42 | jcamins | -ish. |
| 15:42 | oleonard | I'm trying to understand what is going on in browser.js with regard to Bug 11817 |
| 15:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11817 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Staff client next/previous browse JavaScript interferes with other JS functions |
| 15:43 | oleonard | Especially lines 79-82 |
| 15:43 | That selector is too broad, but I'm not sure exactly what it was intended to target | |
| 15:44 | jcamins | 79-82 of what? |
| 15:44 | oleonard | intranet-tmpl/browser.js |
| 15:44 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 15:44 | The goal is to catch all the detail viws. | |
| 15:44 | *views | |
| 15:45 | And addbiblio. | |
| 15:45 | oleonard | So normal, MARC, ISBD, etc? |
| 15:45 | jcamins | And the item detail. |
| 15:45 | Yeah. | |
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| 16:27 | * magnuse | waves from oslo |
| 16:29 | * druthb | waves back. |
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| 16:45 | oleonard | rdio.com |
| 16:53 | wajasu | looks like when i retreive facet results,for an author, there is an entry with the authority number as well. this can be helpful for building my links when UseAuthoritiesForTracings is on |
| 17:13 | okay. got facet results in search. got to parse em. XML::Simple? or regex? or what? any suggestions? | |
| 17:25 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "zebra facets strategy needed" (85 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/203 |
| 17:29 | barton | @seen Ashimema |
| 17:30 | huginn | barton: Ashimema was last seen in #koha 1 day, 3 hours, 37 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <ashimema> ;) |
| 17:32 | barton | @later tell ashimema I made some minor updates to your zebra wiki page: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/zebra#Background |
| 17:32 | huginn | barton: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:34 | jcamins | @later tell ashimena pqf.properties has nothing to do with QueryParser. |
| 17:34 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:36 | wajasu | just read "Supplementary Note: QueryParser uses pqf.properties for indexes" in that zebra wiki page above |
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| 18:16 | barton | how do I run overdue_notices.pl by hand on a package site? |
| 18:22 | wajasu | as the correct koha user, or such, you must set KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB correclty and use /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl, I would expect. |
| 18:22 | but don't quote me on that. | |
| 18:23 | :) | |
| 18:23 | cait-m__ | using the koha shell |
| 18:23 | wajasu | ahh. |
| 18:24 | cait-m__ | would set the env variables etc i think |
| 18:24 | wajasu | it does. |
| 18:24 | * cait-m__ | is on a train, again |
| 18:24 | wajasu | man koha-shell explains |
| 18:28 | dbs | @later tell nengard thanks for the article referral |
| 18:28 | huginn | dbs: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:30 | magnuse | koha-shell++ |
| 18:31 | barton | wow. That's definitely powerful... |
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| 19:20 | * cait | waves |
| 19:33 | * JesseM | waves back |
| 19:36 | cait | hi JesseM :) |
| 19:36 | JesseM | hi cait |
| 19:38 | magnuse | hiya cait and JesseM |
| 19:39 | JesseM | hiya magnuse hows it going? |
| 19:40 | magnuse | trying to put the finishing touches on my ebook thingy |
| 19:40 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:40 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.4°C (9:35 PM CEST on April 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:40 | magnuse | there is always one last little thing... |
| 19:40 | well, finishing as in "having a minimum viable product" | |
| 19:41 | JesseM | that is very true. always one last thing |
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| 19:42 | mjkerpan | Hello, all. |
| 19:42 | magnuse | JesseM: and yerself? |
| 19:42 | mjkerpan | Is it possible to allow for both barcode-based and username-based self checkout at the same time? |
| 19:43 | This morning someone said it was, but I can't find any option that would allow it. | |
| 19:43 | JesseM | All is well. The family is out of the house and it is sooo quite here. :D |
| 19:44 | mjkerpan | hmm. |
| 19:44 | i'm in a building with practically no insulatioon, so the traffic noise makes it loud. | |
| 19:45 | JesseM | oh not good mjkerpan |
| 19:45 | magnuse | JesseM: lovely :-) |
| 19:45 | * magnuse | is in a nice and quiet hotelroom |
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| 19:48 | mjkerpan | it's just a clubhouse |
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| 19:48 | mjkerpan | the 15000 volume library keeps it warmer than it would be at least |
| 19:49 | cait | hm |
| 19:49 | web based self chckout? | |
| 19:49 | or sip2 based self checkout? | |
| 19:50 | koha's opac allows for username + password and cardnumber + password by default,so there is no switch for it. sip2 only works with cardnumber afaik | |
| 19:52 | * cait | is on a train... |
| 19:52 | cait | did my answer to the login question come through? |
| 19:56 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 19:58 | cait | ok |
| 20:00 | wajasu | if i get two facet results from zebra for lets say <term coccur="4" occur="4">Tozer, A. W.</term><term coccur="4" occur="4">Tozer, A. W. (Aiden Wilson), 1897-1963. 11849</term> |
| 20:00 | should i consolidate them? | |
| 20:01 | that 11849 is the authority number. should i use that when building links if UseAuthorityForTracings is on? | |
| 20:02 | mjkerpan | sorry i was away |
| 20:02 | web-based | |
| 20:03 | are you still there | |
| 20:03 | sorry | |
| 20:05 | jcamins | mjkerpan: why don't you tell us what the problem actually is, so that someone can help you with it, if they know how to solve it. |
| 20:06 | (not me, I'm leaving now, but someone might know the answer to whatever problem has you asking about this again) | |
| 20:06 | * wajasu | thinks he needs the dewey decimal number relating to heating/thermostat operation |
| 20:09 | mjkerpan | Basically, my organization is getting ready to start using Koha for item checkin/checkout and some members want to use a username/password and others want to use cards with barcodes |
| 20:10 | I want to know if both can be kept happy. | |
| 20:10 | Currently, the options for we-based checkout allow me to present either a page that asks for a barcode number OR a page that asks for login/password | |
| 20:11 | I want to know if I can (easily) present a page that has both | |
| 20:12 | rangi | morning |
| 20:13 | you'd have to do some dev, to get it to do that | |
| 20:13 | mjkerpan | ah |
| 20:13 | rangi | not a lot, but you would have to change the template page, that presents that |
| 20:14 | mjkerpan | that's the answer i'll give to the club then: if there's a perl wizrd who wants to make it so then it can happen, otherwise, you have to choose. |
| 20:14 | rangi | template toolkit mostly |
| 20:14 | not actual perl but yep | |
| 20:22 | wajasu | if i code support for zebra facets, should i leave it so the current implementaiton is used as a fallback when indexes are not configured? |
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| 20:32 | cait1 | wajasu: wouldn't we need the old config for grs1 using libraries anyway? |
| 20:36 | wajasu | i am going to see if i can get grs1 working as well, but not sure. we'll see. i've just got the response coming back now for DOM and am parsing for the UI. |
| 20:38 | * wajasu | just working on "Authors" now |
| 20:40 | ashimema | @later tell barton Cheers for the updates.. feel free to move my scribblings into a more useful part of the wiki if their useful.. |
| 20:40 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:40 | * cait1 | waves at ashimema |
| 20:40 | ashimema | jcamins.. your later didn't work.. |
| 20:41 | hmm. that note was added at smoeone in here's request.. | |
| 20:41 | mha.. random scribblings.. | |
| 20:41 | High cait1 | |
| 20:41 | hi.. | |
| 20:41 | jcamins | ashimema: Fortunately you got it anyway. ;) |
| 20:44 | barton | ashimema -- I may move that stuff into the wiki proper at some point. I'm still trying to get some of that stuff straight in my head. |
| 20:45 | zebra indexing is one of those things that I want to understand *before* I go messing with it :-) | |
| 20:55 | ashimema | certainly.. |
| 20:56 | indeed jcamins.. | |
| 20:56 | wahanui | indeed jcamins is not. |
| 20:56 | ashimema | so.. what does QueryParser use then?... I thought it relied uopn a different indexing style/query language.. |
| 20:57 | hmm. bedtime me thinks. | |
| 20:57 | nighty night peeps | |
| 20:57 | * cait1 | is still on a train... |
| 20:58 | cait1 | night ashimema_afk |
| 20:58 | ashimema_afk | poor cait... it's been quiet here without you |
| 20:58 | cait1 | aaw :) |
| 20:58 | will be back tomorrow :) | |
| 20:58 | tired... but here | |
| 20:58 | :) | |
| 20:58 | and now i am running out of battery... bbl :) | |
| 20:58 | jcamins | @later tell ashimena QueryParser uses the QueryParser configuration file. It is orthogonal to Zebra. |
| 20:58 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:15 | magnuse | kia ora Irma |
| 21:17 | eythian | hi |
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| 21:27 | magnuse | hiya eythian |
| 21:27 | upgrade done, time to catch some sleep! | |
| 21:27 | have fun #koha! | |
| 21:36 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 21:37 | rhcl | HI mtompset |
| 21:39 | mtompset | Greetings, rhcl. :) |
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| 22:51 | mtompset | Is anyone around who is familiar with setting up plack? |
| 22:53 | eythian | mtompset: start with this perhaps: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha-plack.git |
| 22:54 | mtompset | instead of the default kohaclone? |
| 23:01 | eythian | it's not part of koha, it's tools to do things with it. |
| 23:01 | it's a separate checkout. | |
| 23:14 | mtompset | a separate branch or a separate clone location? |
| 23:16 | BTW, who controls the titles on the dashboard? It still says March, even though it did clear the March totals and has started counting April. | |
| 23:16 | dcook | mtompset: If you looked at the source, you would see that it is a separate git repo all together |
| 23:17 | Hence a separate clone location | |
| 23:25 | Random quote from the dashboard: 'oleonard: bridget jones + vampires, the only remaining mashup left.' | |
| 23:25 | Love it | |
| 23:28 | * mtompset | sighs, "Programmer documentation. That is, the bar is too high to participate without learning time." |
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