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00:30 | huginn` | bag: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) |
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00:31 | huginn` | bag: Uniform Resource Identifier The URI, which provides standard syntax for locating an object using existing Internet protocols. Field 856 is structured to allow for the creation of a URL from the concatenation of other separate 856 subfields. Subfield $u may be used instead of those separate subfields or in addition to them.Subfield $u may be repeated only if both a URN or a URL or more than one URN are (1 more message) |
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01:12 | mtompset | 856$u rocks. :) |
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02:28 | mtompset | Okay. Here is the other half. |
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03:03 | eythian | 3.14.04 packages uploading |
03:03 | wizzyrea | wahootie! |
03:04 | jcamins | Wow. That was incredible. |
03:05 | wizzyrea: this actually works: http://justcookit.blogspot.com[…]olate-mousse.html | |
03:05 | Even if you replace the water with a blender'd young coconut. | |
03:06 | eythian | oh, and I thought jcamins was talking about my mastery of the rsync command. |
03:08 | jcamins | eythian: well done, but no. |
03:08 | * jcamins | suddenly understands the appeal of modernist cooking. |
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03:14 | Dat | Hello can someone help me with an EDIFACT question? |
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03:21 | mtompset | 3.14.04?! |
03:23 | Oh... 04. | |
03:23 | Right. | |
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03:48 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
03:49 | mtompset | Greetings, Oak. |
03:49 | Oak | hello mtompset :) |
04:04 | mtompset | is it safe to just delete records from the suggestions table? |
04:04 | How do you delete suggestions that don't display? | |
04:04 | eythian | you've got to screw around with the filters in the staff client to make them show up. |
04:04 | It's quite dumb | |
04:05 | or delete them from the db | |
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04:52 | Dat | Nice I figured it out on my own |
04:52 | sweet@ | |
04:54 | eythian | good, I know nothing about EDIFACT :) |
04:57 | Dat | me either |
04:57 | However I've just learned how to create a D93A transaction | |
04:58 | this will be helpful when testing since it seems like the europe guys dont know standard EDI 997's :( | |
05:00 | * eythian | just read the wikipedia page on edifact, and is now has gone into negative amounts of knowledge. |
05:01 | eythian | also negative grammar, it turns out. |
05:06 | Dat | lol |
05:06 | yeah fun stuff | |
05:07 | i've just put in a few hours of research | |
05:07 | was going to ask a question here but then my test worked with a successful MDN so im golden now | |
05:16 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
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05:45 | saa | i imported data from 3.2 to 3.14 by regular upgrade from 3.2-3.6-3.8-3.10-3.12-3.14 |
05:45 | when i search for records i can search books but it shows no copies available | |
05:45 | can someone tell me how to get status of exact copy against each title | |
05:47 | eythian | saa: how have you installed 3.14? |
05:47 | saa | yep |
05:47 | i nstalled 3.14 and created webnstall | |
05:47 | eythian | saa: no, how? like, packages or tarball or...? |
05:47 | saa | from packages |
05:47 | after installation and webinstall | |
05:48 | i ran mysql -u root -p koha_library < koha-backup.sql | |
05:48 | and then reindexed data | |
05:48 | i can search records but it shows no copies available | |
05:48 | eythian | OK cool, then you need to run "sudo koha-upgrade-to-3.4 koha_library" |
05:48 | saa | i tried editing individual record but no success |
05:49 | eythian | the way items are stored changed in 3.4 |
05:49 | bag | cait: |
05:49 | hey you are here | |
05:49 | eythian | after that, do a reindex or you'll end up with duplicates. |
05:49 | saa | do i have to run above command in terminal |
05:49 | eythian | yeah |
05:49 | saa | i should run this command as root or library-koha |
05:49 | eythian | neither |
05:49 | just run it as a user with sudo permissions, it'll sort it out for you | |
05:50 | saa | the above command should be 3.14 right or 3.4 |
05:50 | eythian | 3.4 |
05:50 | because it's fixing something that changed from 3.2 to 3.4 | |
05:50 | saa | what is 3.4 |
05:50 | wahanui | 3.4 is Koha 3.4.0 was released 22 April 2011 |
05:51 | saa | but i imported data from 3.2 |
05:51 | rather upgraded | |
05:51 | eythian | yep, and you need to run that script to account for the change from 3.2 to 3.4, it's the sort of thing the regular web installer process can't do. |
05:52 | saa | so no need for 3.2 i can just use 3.4 |
05:52 | eythian | you're on 3.14 now, but this script will fix your items. |
05:52 | saa | ok tx one sec |
05:53 | eythian | (at least, assuming this is your issue, and it probably is.) |
05:53 | saa | sudo: unknown user: koha_library-koha sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin Rebuilding zebra for koha_library... Unknown instance koha_library. |
05:53 | * cait | waves |
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05:53 | saa | it threw abv error |
05:54 | i have a user library-koha and databasse koha_library | |
05:54 | eythian | oh |
05:54 | my bad | |
05:54 | run: sudo koha-upgrade-to-3.4 library | |
05:54 | (i.e. without the koha_ part on the name) | |
05:55 | your instance name is "library" | |
05:55 | saa | running now |
05:55 | it is asking me to take a coffee i will do it | |
05:55 | eythian | if you have a lot of records, it can take a while |
05:55 | saa | only 4000 |
05:55 | eythian | do a full reindex after: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v -a -b library |
05:56 | saa | oh yes |
05:56 | i will let u knw immediately | |
05:56 | eythian | I probably won't be here, I have to go in 5 mintues. |
05:56 | but, good luck! | |
05:56 | saa | ok tx |
05:56 | it was really very helpful | |
05:57 | i was unnecessarily struggling | |
05:57 | hope it works | |
05:57 | eythian | I'm a little afraid that you'll have issues from loading the data as root rather than as the database user, but we'll see. |
06:07 | saa | it is running reindexing zebra |
06:07 | hence is it necessary to rebuild-sebra again | |
06:08 | eythian | probably not then, I forgot it did that. |
06:09 | saa | no luck |
06:09 | same thing | |
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06:11 | eythian | hmm, then I'm out of ideas, but Europe should be waking up now, they might have some. |
06:12 | saa | i spent last 24 hours on this work |
06:12 | the data was in 3.2 then i upgraded to 3.4 then to 3.6 | |
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06:13 | saa | then changed operating system and changed to 3.8 then to 3.10 then to 3.12 |
06:13 | and then to 3.14 | |
06:14 | eythian | oh, I didn't realise you came from 3.12 |
06:14 | still, not sure what it could be. | |
06:14 | and have to go now. | |
06:14 | saa | ok |
06:14 | thx | |
06:20 | dpk | anyone here familiar with vendors in acquisitions? |
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06:26 | saa | i have a 3.2 sql backup can some one tell me hw easily and safely i can get it in 3.14 |
06:37 | wajasu | pwd |
06:37 | ls | |
06:37 | you are on the right track | |
06:38 | you might scour the release notes or wiki to see how things progressed across versions. | |
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07:06 | mtj | saa, create a test 3.14 koha - then load your 3.2 db into it |
07:07 | saa | will it directly take |
07:07 | mtj | hit the admin url, and it will prompt you for 3.2 -> 3.14 upgrade |
07:07 | yes | |
07:07 | saa | oh let me try immediately |
07:08 | i spent unnecessarily time on going from 3.2 to 3.4, 3.6 etc. | |
07:08 | mtj | every time koha generates a page it checks the db version number... |
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07:08 | mtj | …if the version number is old, koha redirects to the upgrade page |
07:09 | yep, a biggg waste of time ^^ :) | |
07:10 | you can upgrade a koha 3.0 db to latest koha, all in one go :) | |
07:10 | saa | oh tx for this |
07:10 | mtj | no probs… :) |
07:10 | saa | i can install 3.14 and i dont need to run webinstall right |
07:11 | i can just run mysql -uroot -p koha_library < koha3.2backup.sql | |
07:11 | mtj | you do need to run web-install |
07:13 | and then the 'sudo koha-upgrade-to-3.4 your_koha' script, too | |
07:13 | $ sudo koha-upgrade-to-3.4 your_koha | |
07:14 | $ sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v your_koha | |
07:14 | . | |
07:14 | …run those 2 commands after web-install, all done :) | |
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07:40 | huginn` | GERMS!!!! |
07:40 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
07:40 | cait | good morning #koha |
07:40 | ho narro! | |
07:41 | (something that is said today in Konstanz by crazily costumed people) | |
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07:48 | reiveune | hello |
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07:59 | Joubu | o/ |
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08:06 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:10 | cait | hi Joubu and gaetan_B |
08:10 | oh and hi reiveune :) | |
08:10 | paxed | <xsl:for-each select="marc:datafield[(@tag=100 or @tag=700) and @ind1!='z']"> |
08:10 | cait | khall: isn't it really late or realyl early for you? |
08:10 | paxed | ind1!=z???? |
08:10 | reiveune | salut cait |
08:11 | paxed | there is no ind1=z in the marc21 format |
08:11 | cait | paxed: yes, that is used I think when you index headings |
08:11 | paxed: correct, that's why z is used | |
08:11 | paxed | index headings? |
08:11 | matts | hi ! |
08:11 | cait | sec |
08:12 | finding the pref | |
08:12 | IncludeSeeFromInSearches | |
08:12 | wahanui | IncludeSeeFromInSearches is something else entirely, but DidYouMeanFromAuthorities shouldn't be there anymore. |
08:12 | cait | when using authorities you can make the search also index the see also forms |
08:12 | so zebra gets them with the record for indexing | |
08:15 | and they will use the z indicator (to my knowledge) | |
08:17 | paxed | ok, just an undocumented(?) Magic Value |
08:17 | cait | you can always do a git blame |
08:17 | and find the patch that added it, if you are lookng at the code :) | |
08:17 | paxed | if i'm looking at the xslt and it handles marc, i first look at the marc specs. |
08:18 | cait | yeah but it can help when you stumble on something you don't find there |
08:18 | which xslt are you looking at? | |
08:18 | paxed | MARC21slim2intranetResults.xsl |
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08:18 | * magnuse | waves |
08:18 | cait | bug 7417 |
08:18 | wahanui | bug 7417 is a good one too |
08:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches |
08:19 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
08:19 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 5.4°C (9:18 AM CET on February 27, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
08:19 | magnuse | @wunder oslo, norway |
08:19 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Kikut, Oslo, Norway is 1.9°C (9:05 AM CET on February 27, 2014). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
08:19 | cait | good morning magnuse |
08:19 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
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08:25 | saa | i tried importing koha 3.2 to 3.14 first blank installation of 3.14 with web install run |
08:25 | then copied 3.2 sql file through terminal | |
08:26 | but when i opened webpage it did nt ask for any upgrade page | |
08:26 | cait | did your sql file copy correctly? |
08:26 | check the version it shows in the systempreferences | |
08:26 | saa | ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 2586: Can't create table 'koha_library.letter' (errno: 150) |
08:26 | it threw above error | |
08:26 | cait | yeah |
08:26 | saa | but came out |
08:26 | cait | try emptying out the database |
08:27 | before you import yours | |
08:27 | not run the web installer | |
08:27 | saa | can u tell me command to empty database |
08:28 | cait | you log into mysql for that |
08:28 | saa | already logged in |
08:28 | cait | make sure you drop the right database! drop database xxxx; create database xxxx; |
08:28 | then reload your dump | |
08:28 | saa | my old dump has database name koha and passwd library |
08:28 | new database will be koha_library | |
08:29 | is that ok | |
08:29 | cait | check the sql file you loaded - sometimes the database name is in the dump |
08:29 | and then bad things can happen | |
08:29 | if it's in the sql file (somewhere at the beginning) change it to your new database name | |
08:30 | should be use database; | |
08:30 | saa | sorry |
08:30 | can u tell me hw i can change that in sql file of old dump | |
08:31 | cait | open it in an editor or use vi |
08:31 | saa | i opened |
08:31 | cait | it's not different to a text filer really |
08:31 | look for a line starting with use | |
08:32 | if there is use koha; you want to change it to use koha_library - but it might not be necessary | |
08:32 | doing the drop and create and then reloading might just wor without any additional changes | |
08:32 | saa | it is not there use koha |
08:32 | cait | good :) |
08:33 | did you do the drop and create commands? | |
08:33 | saa | ok let me try |
08:34 | i ran mysql -uroot -p koha_library < koha-dapoli-3.2-backup.sql this command and it did nt throw any error | |
08:35 | shall i now just run webinstall | |
08:35 | or index first | |
08:35 | cait | i'd runt he web installer first |
08:35 | it should update now your database, instead of offering sample files etc. | |
08:36 | saa | right it says updating from 3.01 to 3.14.04 |
08:37 | cait | not bad so far then :) |
08:38 | magnuse | paul_p: could/shuld bug 5439 just be closed? |
08:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5439 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 3M RFID sensitization |
08:38 | saa | [Thu Feb 27 14:06:07 2014] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate column name 'privacy' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4003. [Thu Feb 27 14:06:07 2014] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate column name 'privacy' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4004. |
08:38 | only threw abv two errors | |
08:39 | shall i rebuild zebra manually | |
08:39 | and then check | |
08:43 | cait | the errors should be ok |
08:43 | paul_p | magnuse done, bug 5439 closed. I think there's another bug for this |
08:43 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5439 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, 3M RFID sensitization |
08:44 | magnuse | there is bug 2244 |
08:44 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2244 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , RFID Cataloguing and Circulation |
08:44 | magnuse | which has some ~5 years old code from slef |
08:45 | cait | paul_p: not sure 3M was submitted somewhere - I remember talking to hdl about it ages ago |
08:45 | paul_p: I think he pointed me to your repository back then | |
08:46 | saa | yes worked fine |
08:46 | only thing koha opac page shows old UI | |
08:46 | cait | paul_p: which remembers me - do uyou have libraries using mifare cards? |
08:46 | saa | why it could be |
08:46 | paul_p | cait = I don't think so. AixMarseille university uses contact-less cards, dunno if it's mifare. |
08:46 | cait | saa: if you use trnaslations, you need to recreate the templates |
08:46 | paul_p | cait = we made a specific branch for them. |
08:47 | cait | saa: also coming from an old version you need to run an additional script |
08:47 | * paul_p | dig git |
08:47 | cait | paul_p: maybe it's similar to what we have here - maybe ask you again in marseille ;) |
08:47 | saa | if u tell me those |
08:47 | cait | magnuse: can you help me out with the remove... script saa needs to run? |
08:47 | saa | my job is over |
08:48 | thx cait for all help | |
08:48 | cait | saa: the way items are stored changed between 3.2 and 3.12 - lots of things changed :) |
08:49 | saa: how did oyu install koha? | |
08:49 | saa | i installed 3.14 through packages |
08:49 | cait | if you are using packages there shoudl be a koha-translate command for updating the templates |
08:49 | saa | and dumped 3.2 database |
08:49 | paul_p | cait = can't find what I was looking for (and must leave for a meeting. don't hesitate to ask alex during the hackfest. We made a branch just for aix-marseille, that we maintain |
08:49 | cait | paul_p: i will make a note :) already have quite a list! |
08:50 | paul_p | cait do you want me to ask our govt to declare that, from 10th to 14th, days will last 48 hours ? |
08:50 | :D | |
08:50 | saa | what should i use just koha_translate |
08:50 | magnuse | paul_p: excellent idea! |
08:50 | saa | install or update |
08:50 | cait | look at the help for the script |
08:50 | paul_p: it would help yes :) | |
08:51 | magnuse | saa: there is a script you need to run |
08:51 | paul_p | OK, will try. You should ask angela for the same. Maybe EU will accept ! |
08:51 | :D :D | |
08:51 | saa | can u pl tell me what i need to run |
08:51 | cait | heh |
08:52 | saa: have to leave for a bit, maybe someone else can help you with updating translations and correcting item data - i think that's the steps you need to do now | |
08:52 | magnuse | saa: "sudo koha-upgrade-to-3.4 <instancename>" - but i have never run it after such a "long" upgrade... |
08:53 | also for the translations: "sudo koha-translate -u <yourlanguagecode>" | |
08:54 | saa | koha-translate -u en |
08:54 | Error: the default language (en) cannot be updated. | |
08:55 | magnuse | yeah, no use updating en, tht's the default |
08:55 | you have no other languages installed? | |
08:55 | saa | no |
08:56 | magnuse | ok |
08:56 | forget about koha-translate, then ;-) | |
08:56 | dud you run koha-upgrade-to-3.4 | |
08:56 | ? | |
08:56 | saa | ok that means i can only see old koha opac internace |
08:56 | i am running | |
08:56 | magnuse | you have to change the syspref |
08:57 | saa | will that help |
08:57 | what in syspref | |
08:57 | magnuse | the syspref is called " opacthemes " |
08:57 | cait | some french around? :) |
08:57 | magnuse | set that to bootstrap |
08:57 | cait | i need the french term for account number in the vendor :) |
08:58 | ah never mind | |
08:58 | Joubu | cait: numéro de compte ? |
08:58 | cait | Joubu: i am working on some enh for the layout2pages |
08:58 | magnuse | le numeriqe accountique de la vendorique |
08:58 | cait | but the french one is layout3pages |
08:58 | magnuse: you invented that | |
08:59 | magnuse | naaaah... |
08:59 | Joubu | magnuse: :) |
08:59 | cait | Joubu: bug 7267 |
08:59 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7267 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Display accountnumber in PDF |
08:59 | cait | woudl you be interested in showing the accountnumber on the french template? |
08:59 | Joubu | cait: yes, certainly |
09:00 | cait | I will just add in a separate patch and you can take a look |
09:01 | Joubu | cait: yep |
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09:11 | marcelr | hi #koha |
09:11 | cait | hi marcel |
09:11 | marcelr | :) |
09:12 | cait | :) |
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09:21 | magnuse | adding a new feature that should be off by default and needs one setting (a url for a service). which is best: to have a dedicated syspref to turn the feature on and off + one syspref for te setting OR to have empty setting = feature off, non-empty setting = feature on? |
09:21 | cait | what kind of feature? |
09:21 | magnuse | rfid :-) |
09:21 | cait | hm |
09:21 | magnuse | there might be more settings needed later |
09:21 | cait | i think smsdriver only has the url to activate |
09:22 | leave empty otherwise | |
09:22 | i think if more setting, a central switch is good | |
09:22 | magnuse | i favour the two syspref version |
09:22 | cait | if only one setting, one pref shoudl work |
09:22 | magnuse | then you can turn it off and on without needing to re-enter the setting to turn it on |
09:22 | cait | :) |
09:23 | Joubu | magnuse: are you a syspref addict? :) |
09:33 | cait | patches attached |
09:33 | hope i didn't mess up :) | |
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09:53 | cait | hi petter |
09:53 | petter | hi cait! |
09:57 | cait | :) |
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10:05 | cait | Joubu: do you knwo in which field the edition is stored for UNIMARC? |
10:07 | field = biblio or biblioitems field | |
10:07 | column | |
10:14 | Joubu | cait: no, gaetan_B maybe? |
10:15 | gaetan_B | cait: the edition as in "énd editioné ? |
10:15 | err | |
10:15 | "2nd edition" | |
10:15 | cait | i think i found it |
10:15 | 205 $a | |
10:15 | and it's not mapped | |
10:15 | but we have biblioitems.editionstatement - i think it could go there for marc21 and unimarc ? | |
10:16 | gaetan_B | indeed |
10:22 | marcelr | Joubu: what did you mean with [The transaction does not work, we use 2 handlers on the same DB] in connection with bug 8007 ? |
10:23 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Discharge management |
10:31 | Joubu | marcelr: there are 2 handlers on the same DB: 1 handler created in C4::Context and 1 in Koha::Database |
10:31 | marcelr | yes, and what was the exact problem |
10:32 | Joubu | using a transaction, the 2nd handler is waiting the connexion and don't manage to execute the query |
10:32 | marcelr | ok isee thanks |
10:32 | Joubu | marcelr: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=24025 |
10:32 | there is a FIXME and the end | |
10:33 | marcelr | this needs some general attention |
10:33 | soon | |
10:33 | Joubu | s/and/at |
10:33 | marcelr: yes, it is quite important. | |
10:37 | cait | gaetan_B: 205$a was right? |
10:37 | kivilahtio_ | Could anyone help me with linux routing tables? |
10:37 | gaetan_B | cait: yes ! absolutely ! |
10:37 | cait | thx :) |
10:38 | now what do you think about bug 11859? | |
10:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11859 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add edition and publication year to PDF templates in acquisitions |
10:38 | cait | gaetan_B: should i add it to the French PDF template as well? |
10:38 | i was not sure why it as left out in the first place | |
10:38 | gaetan_B | it sounds like a very good idea yes |
10:39 | kivilahtio_ | I need to send packets from a virtual container via a specific eth4 (not the default gateway). Containers are connected by a bridge and their outbound packets are routed via an extra routing table specifying the eth4 as a default gateway, then they are NATed. I get packets out via the correct path but not the replies :( |
10:39 | cait | gaetan_B: ok :) |
10:39 | kivilahtio_: no idea - sorry | |
10:39 | kivilahtio_ | jcamins had an idea |
10:39 | I hope he will be around today :) | |
10:41 | magnuse | cait: text strings in .js files are not translated? |
10:41 | they have to be in separate .inc/.tt files to be translated? | |
10:42 | cait | magnuse: correct |
10:42 | magnuse | cait: ok, thanks |
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11:48 | drojf | hi #koha |
11:49 | cait | hi drojf |
11:49 | drojf | hi cait :) |
11:56 | is there a roadmap for 3.16 somewhere? i can't find it on the wiki | |
11:59 | nlegrand | hey #koha! |
12:08 | naive question: I just made some profiling with http://search.cpan.org/~timb/Devel-NYTProf/ with Bulac Koha, it's rather usefull to see what is taking time. I'm about to document it inside Bulac documentation site, but maybe it's worth an entry in the Koha Wiki? | |
12:12 | petter | nlegrand: I've also been profiling with NYTprof lately (fantastic tool btw!) |
12:12 | I'd love to see more activity on this | |
12:12 | It's very interesting to see where most time is spent | |
12:13 | For example, I thought database-calls where the most expensive, but it turns out in usually takes more time to parse XML and generate marc objects | |
12:13 | So, please share your finds! | |
12:16 | nlegrand | ok ! |
12:20 | jcamins | kivilahtio_: I don't have any idea how to fix your problem, sorry. I was just telling you that I have a multi-homed server. |
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12:30 | ashimema | deffo share your finds nlegrand.. profiling is really suefull to us all |
12:32 | kivilahtio_ | jcamins: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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12:35 | cait | French speaker around? gaetan_B? |
12:36 | tcohen | morning #koha |
12:37 | cait | Joubu: ? :) |
12:37 | matts: :) | |
12:37 | do you have a second? | |
12:38 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=20432 < if you look for 'published by' you see it has not been translated | |
12:38 | i could add the translation , but not sure what it shoudl be | |
12:39 | same for the Page 1/1, Page 1/2 it prints | |
12:40 | matts | hey cait, no problem |
12:41 | published by => publié par | |
12:41 | cait | cool |
12:41 | and Page? | |
12:41 | wahanui | Page is too big? |
12:42 | matts | Page is page :) |
12:43 | cait | oh! |
12:43 | ok :) | |
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13:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
13:18 | francharb | Hi #koha oleonard |
13:30 | cait | thx matts :) matts++ |
13:30 | matts | thx cait for pointing that out and fixing it :) |
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13:37 | oleonard | khall around? |
13:37 | khall | yo |
13:38 | oleonard | I think the permissions for course reserves are a little wonky and I wanted to run it by you |
13:38 | I think it should be possible for a staff member to view course reserves in the staff client even if they don't have edit/delete/manage permissions | |
13:38 | Does that sound right? | |
13:39 | khall | hmm, let me take a look |
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13:44 | khall | oleonard: I cannot view course reserves if I have no permissions. Do you think librarians should be able to view courses even if they modify them? |
13:45 | oleonard | Patrons can view course reserves in the OPAC. Why shouldn't librarians be able to view them in the staff client? |
13:45 | khall | oleonard: that was my thought exactly |
13:46 | is there a bug filed for this already? | |
13:46 | oleonard | No |
13:50 | khall | oleonard: I'm working on a patch right now |
13:50 | oleonard | Great, thanks! |
13:50 | khall | np! |
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13:57 | khall | oleonard: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11866 |
13:57 | huginn` | 04Bug 11866: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Staff side course reserves too restrictive |
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14:18 | rhcl | @wunder 64507 |
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14:18 | huginn` | rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -10.6°C (8:18 AM CST on February 27, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
14:20 | oleonard | khall++ |
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14:23 | magnuse | hm, trying to figure out what happens when i click on the tabs below the checkin/checkout/patronsearch etc box |
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14:24 | magnuse | i thught it was jquery onclick, but it doesn't seem to be |
14:24 | anyone got a clue? oleonard? | |
14:24 | oleonard | What do you mean magnuse? What are you trying to do? |
14:24 | magnuse | not sure my phrasing of the question is good... |
14:25 | when i click on the "check in" tab, i want to be taken to the check in page | |
14:25 | not give focus to the check in field | |
14:25 | khall | I believe it uses jquery ui tabs, right? |
14:25 | oleonard | That's right khall |
14:26 | magnuse | how is my clicking on the "check in" tab bound to the "show the check in box" action? |
14:26 | oleonard | Somewhere in the jQueryUI library JS |
14:26 | magnuse | s/box/field/ |
14:27 | but what triggers the binding? | |
14:28 | ah | |
14:28 | <a href="#checkin_search">Check in</a> | |
14:28 | href="#checkin_search" is interpreted as "give focus to the "#checkin_search" div | |
14:29 | i thnk i got it, thanks oleonard khall | |
14:29 | khall | np! |
14:34 | oleonard | Wanting to charge your patrons for their own overdue notices is a great #123 example. |
14:34 | @quote get 123 | |
14:34 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
14:34 | huginn` | oleonard: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
14:39 | magnuse | hm, what's a good name for the things yu click on to show different tabs? are the things yu click on called tabs? or do they have a separate name? |
14:40 | oleonard | I would call them tabs, although the ones for check out/check in are not styled like tabs in their off state. |
14:40 | magnuse | ok |
14:41 | so if i were to give an id to the tab tht says "check in", "checkin_tab" would be a good candidate? or are there other suggestions? | |
14:41 | oleonard | That seems reasonable to me |
14:41 | magnuse | cool |
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15:27 | talljoy | y ears ack |
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15:31 | mveron | Hi #koha |
15:31 | The community website seems to be down... | |
15:31 | http://www.downforeveryoneorju[…]oha-community.org | |
15:33 | cait | hm seems to happen more often at this time of thed ay |
15:33 | is that possible? | |
15:33 | but really early morning in nz? | |
15:34 | mveron: could I interest you in testing a few patches? :) | |
15:34 | mveron | cait: Why not? :-) |
15:34 | cait | 11828 |
15:34 | bug 11828 | |
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15:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11828 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add German PDF template for orders in acquisitions |
15:35 | cait | once you have a few orders to work with it's quite fast to test |
15:35 | you can print the same pdf group all the time | |
15:35 | mveron | Ok, I'll have a look... |
15:36 | cait | it's a dependency tree |
15:36 | but this is the one to start testing with :) | |
15:40 | mveron: thx - no hurry | |
15:40 | mveron: just not so many german testers availalbe :) | |
15:41 | is it only me or does low bug numbers with patches make you extra happy? :) | |
15:41 | oleonard: the z39.50 was oold :) bug 1047 | |
15:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1047 normal, P2, ---, isaacbrodsky, Signed Off , Punctuation in site names breaks Edit/Delete z39.50 server administration |
15:41 | oleonard | I know, and the fix was so simple |
15:42 | cait | it's good it's gone, that's the most important |
15:42 | we should do some looking at old bugs sometime | |
15:42 | maybe some more are easy now | |
15:42 | TT made a lot of things easier | |
15:46 | tcohen | @later tell eythian I took 7234 after a discussion about that in the koha-es list, using debconf dialogs might belong to a new bug i guess |
15:46 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
15:49 | oleonard | Oldest open bug: Bug 444 |
15:49 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=444 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Manual Credits does not support authorised values (Manual invoices do) |
15:49 | oleonard | Oldest open non-enhancement: Bug 766 |
15:49 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=766 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Use of CGI::scrolling_list prevents customization in template |
15:51 | cait | hm 766 could fall that TT category |
15:51 | i had take a quick look, but was not sure how to start a while ago | |
15:53 | oleonard | When I saw the patch for Bug 1047 I thought 1047 was a typo the number was so small |
15:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1047 normal, P2, ---, isaacbrodsky, Signed Off , Punctuation in site names breaks Edit/Delete z39.50 server administration |
15:56 | cait | :) |
15:57 | mveron | cait: 11828 looks fine, will sign it off later in the evening |
15:57 | tcohen | jcamins: would you agree on the defaults for bug 7234? |
15:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7234 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , koha-common Debian package should include koha-sites.conf |
15:58 | drojf | is there a reason why the koha-remove command doesn't delete the zebra register files? |
16:00 | oh there is a bug for it ^^ | |
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16:09 | cait | mveron: thx! |
16:09 | mveron: i have more ideas for improvement, but trying a step by step approach | |
16:10 | mveron: there are also bugs linked adding the account number/Kundennummer and edition and publication year | |
16:10 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11829: fix JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb12d75c6893ca0bd> / Bug 11805 - Use validation plugin when creating new basket in Acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]41ce79bb37873662d> / Bug 11736 - Use new DataTables include in Koha ne |
16:20 | oleonard | Having trouble with git fetch again. "read error: Invalid argument" |
16:20 | gmcharlt: Do you know what that means? | |
16:21 | gmcharlt | hmm - paste your .git/confg, please? |
16:24 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "git config (minus other remotes, branches, etc)" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/144 |
16:32 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11798: fix problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d59b3c04f061a858b> |
16:37 | gmcharlt | oleonard: to rule out the possiblity that you were colliding with me pushing to master, could yuo try a fetch now? |
16:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #366 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
16:39 | oleonard | It's working now, thanks |
16:42 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1647 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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17:03 | * cait | cheers gmcharlt on :) |
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17:09 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha |
17:10 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
17:10 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen! |
17:10 | tcohen | i've just updated the ubuntu packages wiki |
17:11 | mtompset | oh? how so? |
17:11 | tcohen | would u take a look at the "initial configuration" section? |
17:12 | there where some variables missing | |
17:12 | and I also put an real life example | |
17:12 | so people knows what are those variables for | |
17:12 | mtompset | I don't like putting in a real life example, because people will try to use it to get Koha running. |
17:12 | I do like the extra text you added. | |
17:13 | tcohen | well, myDNS.com was an unexplained real-life example too :-P |
17:14 | mtompset | I would leave the blue boxes with "bad" examples that generate a working example if they don't think. |
17:14 | But add further explanation around it for those who actually read. | |
17:14 | (which we know people don't do) | |
17:15 | Not to mention the comment does say "# Change this to be your domain." ;) | |
17:15 | tcohen | we need to explain how the URL is built (hence the example desired configuration) |
17:16 | OTH I don't care which the example is | |
17:17 | mtompset | Okay, I agree with that. But we shouldn't break the "just cut and paste the blue boxes to get something working" philosophy. ;) |
17:17 | tcohen | i've just attached a patch for 7234, so they'd find a file with different sample configuration |
17:18 | and notice they need to read :-P | |
17:19 | mtompset: just made it more generic | |
17:22 | mtompset | Could we set the memcache stuff to 'no', and leave them as comments with a statement about setting to yes and using these? |
17:25 | Also, did you notice Appendix A? | |
17:34 | cait | bye all |
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17:36 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #366: SUCCESS in 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/366/ |
17:36 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11717 - Use new DataTables include in member templates | |
17:36 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11710 - Use new DataTables include in cataloging Z39.50 search template | |
17:36 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11716 - Use new DataTables include in label manage template | |
17:36 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11736 - Use new DataTables include in Koha news templates | |
17:36 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11805 - Use validation plugin when creating new basket in Acquisitions | |
17:36 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11829: fix JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template variables are undefined | |
17:36 | * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 11798: fix problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table | |
17:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11717 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in member templates |
17:36 | tcohen | mtompset: tl;dr, just leave a simple understandable way of setting it |
17:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11710 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in cataloging Z39.50 search template |
17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11716 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in label manage template | |
17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11736 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in Koha news templates | |
17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new basket in Acquisitions | |
17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11829 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template variables are undefined | |
17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11798 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , Problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table | |
17:52 | gaetan_B | bye! |
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18:00 | mtompset | tcohen: Okay... revised some more. Comments? |
18:01 | tcohen | i'd prefer USE_MEMCACHED="no" instead of commenting it |
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18:06 | * cait | waves |
18:07 | tcohen | hi cait |
18:07 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
18:13 | mtompset | So, all three uncommented, tcohen? |
18:14 | Ah, okay... that's fine with me. | |
18:23 | Greetings, cait. :) | |
18:23 | cait | hi mtompset |
18:26 | mtompset | How goes the kitten rescuing? :) |
18:29 | tcohen | yes, fixed them already and also adjusted the appendix to match the new options too |
18:29 | mtompset: have you looked at the bug i mentioned about this very same problem? | |
18:30 | mtompset | 7234? |
18:31 | what bug is that, tcohen? | |
18:31 | tcohen | 7234 |
18:31 | (i.e. packages don't provide a sample koha-sites.conf file, it was filled by jcamins a long time ago) | |
18:32 | mtompset | I just commented on it. |
18:32 | tcohen | oh :-D |
18:32 | mtompset | I was hoping that eythian had gotten around to his idea. |
18:32 | tcohen | i think that belongs to another bug actually |
18:32 | mtompset | That is: debconf questions to populate the initial koha-sites.conf |
18:32 | gmcharlt | 443 strikes me as an even better default port ;) |
18:33 | (admittedly, that opens up the inconvenience of dealing with certs, eiither paid or self-signed, so please consider this comment purely a digression) | |
18:34 | mtompset | gmcharlt: Yes, I agree. However, dealing with certs is beyond Koha's line of responsibility. |
18:35 | gmcharlt | that's too strong of a statement, IMO - having the installer go so far as to generate certs is a no-go, but having it nudge people in directions that make for a more secure installation is not beyond the realm of discussion |
18:37 | cait | +1 |
18:40 | tcohen | generating them during instance creation should be straightforward |
18:40 | mtompset | Okay, I agree with that. The difficulty becomes not causing the former while attempting the latter, and doing it in a way that doesn't create an insurmountable installation for testing purposes barrier. |
18:40 | gmcharlt | actually, yeah, it would be straightforward enough; one could always stuff them under /etc/koha/sites/FOO/ssl |
18:41 | wajasu | was i correct about 11573. any comments. maybe we should yank logic in perl code that builds the viewable description into accountlines up into the template if the context is all there. [% IF accounttype = 'Rent' ... format accordingly. |
18:41 | gmcharlt | the problem is that 99% of the time you'll want a non-self-signed cert |
18:42 | wajasu: in general, +1 to moving purely presentation logic to the templates | |
18:46 | mtompset | Yes, to the non-self-signed cert. And to those who want that, they'll likely have the technical skill to tweak the Apache configuration accordingly. |
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19:07 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1647: SUCCESS in 2 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1647/ |
19:07 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11717 - Use new DataTables include in member templates | |
19:07 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11710 - Use new DataTables include in cataloging Z39.50 search template | |
19:07 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11716 - Use new DataTables include in label manage template | |
19:07 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11736 - Use new DataTables include in Koha news templates | |
19:07 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11805 - Use validation plugin when creating new basket in Acquisitions | |
19:07 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11829: fix JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template variables are undefined | |
19:07 | * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 11798: fix problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table | |
19:07 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11717 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in member templates |
19:07 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11710 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in cataloging Z39.50 search template | |
19:07 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11716 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in label manage template | |
19:07 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11736 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in Koha news templates | |
19:07 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new basket in Acquisitions | |
19:07 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11829 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template variables are undefined | |
19:07 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11798 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , Problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table | |
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19:16 | tcohen | gmcharlt: would you agree on the defaults I chose for bug 7234? |
19:17 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7234 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , koha-common Debian package should include koha-sites.conf |
19:19 | oleonard | Is it possible to temporarily remove a branch from consideration for the holds queue? |
19:19 | * cait | thinks |
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19:20 | cait | you could change the holds settings? |
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19:20 | cait | for the itemtypes... or the branch transfer configuration? |
19:24 | i think there is no gereal switch | |
19:29 | * pianohacker | is hungry for some gereal now |
19:30 | reiveune | bye |
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19:38 | oleonard | Here's a fun bug: Place a hold on a title. Delete all the items from that title. Assuming you don't know who placed the hold, how do you remove it? |
19:38 | If you click the holds tab for the title you get a message which says "Cannot place hold: this record has no items attached." | |
19:38 | ...but no list of existing holds. | |
19:39 | cait | hm |
19:39 | not sure if the bug is at the end | |
19:39 | i think you should not be able to delete the items in the first place | |
19:40 | mtompset | gereal, pianohacker? |
19:49 | cait | mveron++ thx |
19:49 | mveron | cait: Welcome :-) |
19:50 | cait | did you see bug 7267? ;) |
19:50 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7267 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Display accountnumber in PDF |
19:50 | * cait | is mean :) |
19:51 | mveron | http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/?query=mean |
19:51 | :-) | |
19:52 | cait | that's a long list |
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20:07 | Brooke | o/ |
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20:21 | oleonard | What's up Brooke? |
20:27 | wizzyrea | oleonard: pretty certain there is no situation in which you should be able to delete all items if there are reserves on a title. |
20:27 | at the very least, librarians should be told that there are reserves, and do you want to also delete the reserves when you delete all items | |
20:28 | gmcharlt | if all of the items get damaged, you may have to delete them regardless |
20:28 | but yeah, the librarian should be given the option to cancel teh requests | |
20:28 | (or not cancel them, if they know that they'll shortly be ordering replacements) | |
20:29 | wizzyrea | if you choose "no, I don't want to delete all reserves" the items aren't removed. In that case, either the library should order a replacement and make an on-order item |
20:29 | no, that's what they should do. They should order a replacement or they should delete the reserves. | |
20:30 | ideally, the borrower who placed the reserve should get an email "this reserve was removed because <item was damaged>" or "Something happened at the library, contact them for your options" | |
20:30 | but that's ideal | |
20:30 | oleonard | My librarians were just asking for an automated way of sending a message to the patron: "Your hold was cancelled because you didn't pick it up" |
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20:37 | wajasu | when i was testing some fines code, I noticed some code updated an existing accountline accounttype from FU to F. maybe when making apayment or writeoff, is that a known hack? don't know why it would need to be changed, unless its an accrual hack. |
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21:06 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
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21:11 | rangi | pianohacker: http://brackets.io/ <-- might be useful for your future :) |
21:11 | pianohacker | rangi: ooh good point. Will definitely recommend to anyone not using Vim |
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21:36 | eythian | hi |
21:37 | cait | morning eythian |
21:53 | mveron | Oh it's late. Good night #koha |
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22:34 | francharb | bye all |
22:37 | talljoy | ck |
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22:40 | IsaacB | Could someone check if bug 11612 should be assigned to product koha-security? It appears to be, albeit a minor one, a security concern |
22:40 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11612 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 404 error page for Intranet may leak information |
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22:43 | wizzyrea | doesn't seem like it's the sort of thing that needs ultimate secrecy to me. |
22:43 | IsaacB | that's what I figured |
22:45 | dcook | Nice catch though. |
22:48 | eythian | hmm, it is a borderline one, but probably minor enough that it can go through the regular process. |
22:49 | cait | good night all |
22:49 | dcook | night cait |
22:49 | See you in the morning ;) | |
22:49 | cait | :) |
22:49 | travelling tomorrow :) | |
22:49 | dcook | :o |
22:49 | Well, have a good trip! | |
22:49 | And a good sleep | |
22:49 | And a good weekend! | |
22:50 | cait | thx |
22:50 | you too | |
22:50 | eythian | bye cait |
22:51 | IsaacB | It looked like setting needsauthentication=1 on the 404 and other pages would work to prevent the interface from being shown, but it seemed 404.pl doesn't accept login, so the login box it shows is broken. |
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