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| 00:06 | mtompset | DOH! Got distracted and can't answer the problem of Kinson: his record doesn't have a 952. |
| 00:32 | maximep left #koha | |
| 00:57 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1637: SUCCESS in 2 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1637/ |
| 00:57 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544: ensure that stocknumber searches work for MARC21 | |
| 00:57 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544: add Number-local-acquisition in known indexes | |
| 00:57 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544 - add Number-local-acquisition in QueryParser config | |
| 00:57 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10544: (follow-up) update MARC21 DOM index definitions | |
| 00:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10544 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , stocknumber index is an alias of Number-local-acquisition |
| 00:57 | jenkins_koha | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11202: Improve UNIMARC biblio indexing |
| 00:57 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11202: FIX UT for QueryParser.t | |
| 00:57 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11202: (follow-up) update number of expected tests for t/QueryParser.t | |
| 00:57 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11732: Eliminate warning on undefined branchcode | |
| 00:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11202 enhancement, P4, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Improve UNIMARC biblio indexing |
| 00:57 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11411 - Bootstrap theme (enhancement) for (right to left) |
| 00:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11732 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Eliminate warning on undefined branchcode |
| 00:57 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11411 normal, P5 - low, ---, karamqubsi, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme (enhancement) for (right to left). | |
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| 01:22 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 01:22 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on February 20, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
| 01:22 | eythian | sure feels warmer |
| 01:23 | wizzyrea | it's strange outside |
| 01:33 | rangi | still fog in island bay |
| 01:34 | wizzyrea | whoa really |
| 01:34 | it's hazy but sunny here | |
| 01:34 | weird fog. | |
| 01:38 | mtompset | wizzyrea: I was looking down the language hole... what a hole it is. |
| 01:38 | wizzyrea | :) we were juuuust talking about that |
| 01:38 | I wouldn't worry about it - what I think is | |
| 01:39 | well what we've talked about anyway | |
| 01:39 | is that for any regional languages, we should show the news for the master language on all regions | |
| 01:40 | because really we're not going to be having en and en-nz and switching between them, and even for chinese and say, spanish | |
| 01:40 | a library will probably not pick two regional languages to have enabled at once | |
| 01:40 | mtompset | probably not, but if they want, they can. :) |
| 01:40 | wizzyrea | <big logical leap here, warning> if the other languages are similar to english, they will be more or less understandable across regions |
| 01:41 | right, so I think, we should just show the news for all master languages on all regional languages | |
| 01:41 | so, for english | |
| 01:41 | show news for "opac (en)" on en-nz, en-gb | |
| 01:42 | so a librarian wouldn't have to make a news item for every single region, if the master language was english | |
| 01:42 | (as an example, I think it carries over to the other regional languages as well... does anyone care to comment on that point?) | |
| 01:44 | mtompset | for English you are correct. |
| 01:44 | I can't comment on the mutual intelligibility of other regional languages. ;) | |
| 01:44 | wizzyrea | zh is the one that I am most concerned about |
| 01:45 | and I kinda hate to push it off on them but... this seems broken. | |
| 01:45 | as it stands. | |
| 01:46 | I warned you it was a big hole. | |
| 01:46 | :) | |
| 01:46 | eythian | at the moment it works for nobody, no matter the direction you take, it'll be better :) |
| 01:46 | wizzyrea | well it works for anybody who doesn't have an installed translation that's a regional language |
| 01:46 | :P | |
| 01:50 | mtompset | By the way... how do you UNINSTALL a language? |
| 01:50 | wizzyrea | isn't there a translate remove, it's probably in the help. |
| 01:51 | I haven't ever looked | |
| 01:51 | eythian | koha-translate --remove |
| 01:51 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 01:53 | mtompset | on a GIT system, eythian. |
| 01:54 | eythian | that information wasn't in your requirements document |
| 01:54 | mtompset | True, I didn't state it initially. :P |
| 01:57 | Oh shoot... | |
| 01:57 | found a bug in the koha-translate script. | |
| 01:58 | it doesn't remove bootstrap. | |
| 01:58 | wizzyrea | ooo |
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| 02:17 | wajasu | are we still using HTML::Template? I just noticed koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/templates.readme mentions it. did notknow if we've moved totally to TT and XSLT. |
| 02:17 | wizzyrea | we are definitely not using html::template |
| 02:18 | eythian | wajasu: heh I noticed that about an hour ago. It's a bit out of date that file. |
| 02:23 | wajasu | i am trying to come up with a strategy to support font descriptors (CSS3 ish), and just wondered if I should just add a systempreference containing CSS and just have the label program select the preference name to drive the selection of the font familiy, etc. then we could yank the needed fields to drive the label creator and thus choose a TTF font or other font specified. Then we could... |
| 02:23 | ...share the CSS to show the label on the web page as well. this is so we can get diacritics and other utf8 chars printing on the labels, patron cards, etc. | |
| 02:24 | eythian | it doesn't necessarily make sense to have the TTF specified as a system preference. |
| 02:25 | There's few situations where library staff could meaningfully edit it. | |
| 02:29 | wajasu | what if we just store the CSS under koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/lib/labels/spine-label.css or such. |
| 02:30 | i was thinking we could use selectors for title, barcode, etc. | |
| 02:33 | i also wonder if we could refer to webfonts or download and possibly serve them. then folks could get gentium or other unicode variations into the mix. | |
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| 02:59 | mtj | hi peeps, what do people think about adding a $basedir arg to rebuild_zebra.pl ? |
| 03:00 | i've currently got a little problem where my /tmp file-system is only 4 gig | |
| 03:01 | …, and my zebra requires 18 gig to reindex | |
| 03:01 | eythian | does it respect $TMP? |
| 03:02 | mtj | hmm, does my patch respect $TMP? |
| 03:02 | eythian | rebuild_zebra |
| 03:02 | wahanui | i heard rebuild_zebra was already there but only every 10 mins.... |
| 03:03 | eythian | not that having a --tmpdir argument or similar is a bad idea |
| 03:03 | mtj | rebu_zeb.pl uses File::Temp |
| 03:03 | so, i assume it does the right-thing(™)? | |
| 03:04 | eythian | Id think so |
| 03:04 | wajasu | you could create a symbolic link to other drive as a quick workaraound. |
| 03:04 | mtj | wajasu, yeah, ive done that already ^^ |
| 03:04 | but time for a proper fix, i think | |
| 03:05 | wajasu | good idea. |
| 03:06 | mtompset | Oh... mtj, we had a similar problem. |
| 03:06 | we had to set $TEMP globally and reboot. | |
| 03:06 | if I recall. | |
| 03:07 | mtj | $ rebuild_zebra.pl --basedir /tmp_zeb |
| 03:07 | something like that ^^ | |
| 03:08 | mtompset | Because I believe File::Temp caches the value, so changing it after it has been used is not possible. |
| 03:08 | Of course, I no longer have access to the old machine where we did that. | |
| 03:08 | So, I can't confirm. | |
| 03:10 | mtj | fwiw, this patch seems to work OK -> http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=he[…]ed2f458650c631e93 |
| 03:12 | eythian | mtompset: I would be very sure it wasn't caching it. |
| 03:12 | mtompset | something was caching it. |
| 03:12 | mtj | yeah, its not - for my example... |
| 03:13 | mtompset | the $TEMP that is. |
| 03:13 | mtj | switching basedirs works as expected |
| 03:14 | $ ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b --basedir /tmp1 | |
| 03:14 | mtompset | Glad you found a better solution. |
| 03:14 | mtj | $ ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b --basedir /tmp2 |
| 03:14 | me too :p | |
| 03:15 | eythian | mtj: tempdir is a better name than basedir |
| 03:15 | because basedir doesn't really mean anything | |
| 03:15 | mtompset: it doesn't use $TEMP, it uses $TMPDIR, maybe that was the issue. | |
| 03:15 | mtompset | Ah... that was it... TMPDIR. |
| 03:16 | eythian | $tmpdir = $_[0]->_tmpdir( $ENV{TMPDIR}, "/tmp" ); |
| 03:16 | that's how it figures out where to use unless you tell it otherwise. | |
| 03:16 | There's no caching going on. | |
| 03:16 | mtj | eythian, tempdir is already used |
| 03:16 | mtompset | the $ENV{TMPDIR} was, I think. |
| 03:17 | eythian | it's not. That's not how environment variables work. |
| 03:17 | They are not cached, they are passed down from process to process. | |
| 03:17 | mtj: it is? | |
| 03:17 | for what? | |
| 03:17 | mtj | $ ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b --basedir /tmp2 -d foo |
| 03:17 | tempdir is foo | |
| 03:18 | so the actual dir thats used is /tmp2/foo | |
| 03:18 | eythian | that's not really a sane naming scheme, as basedir is still meaningless. |
| 03:18 | mtj | or, if you dont pass it a -d/tempdir arg... |
| 03:18 | eythian | -d lets you provide a directory instead of it making one |
| 03:19 | you should have --tempdir or something that says "use this instead of $TMPDIR, /tmp" | |
| 03:19 | I'd think basedir would be where the indices live, or something like that. | |
| 03:19 | Not something that's incidental to the functioning. | |
| 03:21 | (-d isn't nicely named either, but it's probably too late to change it.) | |
| 03:21 | mtj | exactly |
| 03:21 | -d aka $directory should really be called tempdir - coz thats wot it is | |
| 03:22 | eythian | well, possibly. I'd consider tempdir to be the thing that says "here's a tempdir to use". |
| 03:22 | mtj | yep |
| 03:22 | eythian | because that's what $TMPDIR does. |
| 03:22 | so it should replicate what that envvar does. | |
| 03:23 | mtj | and thats *not* what my arg does - it provide a *base* dir, for the temp dir |
| 03:24 | eythian | It's _exactly_ what your one does. |
| 03:24 | $TMPDIR="/tmp", it writes in in /tmp/something. If your one is "/tmp" it writes it in /tmp/something | |
| 03:24 | mtj | ok |
| 03:25 | so -d should be renamed to tmpsubdir | |
| 03:25 | then we are all happy | |
| 03:26 | heh, i shoudlnt be suggesting extra work for myself | |
| 03:26 | eythian | I don't know what a good name for that would be. |
| 03:26 | I'd be wary of renaming something that people are possibly already using, too. | |
| 03:26 | mtj | i'll just follow your recommendation and rename --basedir to --tempdir |
| 03:27 | eythian | Mostly my issue is that basedir makes it sound more important than it really is, without conveying what it really does. |
| 03:27 | mtj | a prefectly valid point |
| 03:27 | eythian | Now, if it were a utility to create temporary directories, basedir would be fine, but it's not :) |
| 03:28 | mtompset | oh my evilness... I think I finally made sense of language_subtag_registry in my head. |
| 03:29 | eythian | I don't think I've even contemplated looking at that. |
| 03:30 | mtompset | and the po files are language[-region[-script]].po |
| 04:03 | For those who may be mildly interested: http://rising.globalvoicesonli[…]e-on-february-21/ | |
| 04:12 | what are valid MARC tags in 1xx? | |
| 04:13 | eythian | 100, 110, 111, 130. |
| 04:13 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd1xx.html | |
| 04:15 | mtompset | oh wait... authorities... http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad1xx3xx.html |
| 04:16 | Shoot... found a bug. | |
| 04:16 | We're missing 162. | |
| 04:18 | I know how to fix it, but the fix won't be accepted without a test. ARG! | |
| 04:23 | What to call the bug... I don't even know how to reproduce it, but I know it exists. | |
| 04:26 | Does the record->field('1..') call guarantee a particular order for fields? | |
| 04:29 | eythian | I would expect that they're in the same order they are in the record. |
| 04:29 | Not sure I'd assume that there's a guarantee though | |
| 04:30 | mtj | you can force an order, i think... |
| 04:31 | otherwise, its just the order that its stored in the record | |
| 04:31 | jcamins | You can only have one 1xx field, so you should just assume the record is invalid if that's returning an array with more than one item. |
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| 04:33 | mtompset | I think eythian was addressing my question: can you have 100,111,130 in one record->file('1..') call, but in another case it is 130,111,100. |
| 04:33 | mayankjain | Hello what is the marc21 code for bar code ? |
| 04:33 | mtompset | I want to say 952$p, but I don't know for sure. |
| 04:33 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]data_fields_(9xx) <-- mayankjain, all the item fields are documented in here |
| 04:33 | and it is 952$p | |
| 04:34 | mtompset | GAH! Some librarian stuff is sticking in my head.... get it out! get it out! ;) |
| 04:34 | mtj | peeps, can i get a bash brainslap… i've discovered a subtle bug in koha-rebuild-zebra |
| 04:35 | # koha-rebuild-zebra -d foo1 mykoha | |
| 04:36 | the script parses 'foo1' as a koha instance, not a value of the -d arg :/ | |
| 04:36 | eythian | hmm, I could believe that. |
| 04:36 | it should probably be written using getopts. | |
| 04:37 | but as it is, it doesn't understand that -d takes an argument, because it doesn't know what it actually is. | |
| 04:38 | jcamins: I like your faith that records will be valid :) | |
| 04:41 | jcamins | eythian: I have no faith that the record would be valid, but worrying about Koha's behavior when the record isn't going to display right regardless of the behavior seems like a waste of time. |
| 04:45 | mtj | thanks for the get-opts tip eythian :) |
| 04:46 | eythian | it'd probably mean changing the interface a bit, e.g. having all the passed-on options coming after a '--' or something. |
| 04:46 | mtj | i have seen it about, but i've managed to avoid using it… so far :) |
| 04:46 | eythian | It should be able to work in a shell script, but I don't know how you'd do it. |
| 04:47 | 'man getopt' will tell you all about it. | |
| 04:47 | mtj | some of those koha-* bash scripts are ripe for a perl rewrite |
| 04:48 | eythian | possibly, they're mostly pretty small though, and you can do some good stuff in shell scripts. |
| 04:48 | mtj | but i might be a bit biased… :) |
| 04:48 | eythian | though after a while it starts to get ugly. |
| 04:48 | I used to use a distro that had all of its packaging and dependency management in pure bash script | |
| 04:52 | mtompset | mtj: you may wish to talk with tcohen. He was working on them last. :) |
| 04:59 | mayankjain | what is the marc21 for number of pages of a book ? |
| 05:00 | dcook | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd300.html |
| 05:00 | eythian | @marc 300 |
| 05:00 | huginn` | eythian: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
| 05:00 | eythian | I think that's where it goes |
| 05:01 | dcook | 300$a to be exact |
| 05:01 | Although look at the loc site (or your cataloguing rules) to see how it's supposed to be written out... | |
| 05:02 | mayankjain | 300$a takes the records to Description: |
| 05:03 | dcook | ? |
| 05:03 | $a - Extent | |
| 05:03 | Number of physical pages, volumes, cassettes, total playing time, etc., of of each type of unit. | |
| 05:03 | * dcook | tries to hunt down this apostrophe code error.. |
| 05:10 | mayankjain | what is the marc21 for date of purchase ? |
| 05:11 | eythian | it's in the 952 holdings link taht I sent earlier: date of acquisition. |
| 05:12 | dcook | (Although you could in theory use 541 instead :P) |
| 05:13 | (but that's at the bib level not item level) | |
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| 05:22 | mayankjain | The barcode 22491 was not found. Return to spine label printer |
| 05:23 | I have used 541$e for bar code | |
| 05:24 | mtompset | Have a great day (24 hour period), eythian, dcook, mtj, everybody on #koha. :) |
| 05:24 | eythian | mayankjain: you should be using 952$p |
| 05:24 | cait | mayankjain: koh aexpects the barcode to be in the item |
| 05:25 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:25 | cait | so what eythian said - 952$p |
| 05:25 | hi eythian :) | |
| 05:25 | mayankjain | yeah I have used 952$p |
| 05:26 | now I am trying to print bar code with spine label | |
| 05:27 | eythian | sweet, after-hours apache updates applied to all the servers I have to manage. Time to go. |
| 05:27 | Ohh, time to go after this song finishes. | |
| 05:28 | cait | have a good evening :) |
| 05:28 | dcook | night, eythian (after the song finishes) |
| 05:28 | eythian | later all :) |
| 05:28 | mayankjain | For creating bar code do I need to do anything after importing data? |
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| 07:40 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:41 | rangi++ | |
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| 07:45 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:46 | mayankjain | please tell me tag code for bill number |
| 07:49 | matts | hi ! |
| 07:50 | mayankjain | hi |
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| 08:11 | reiveune | hello |
| 08:11 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
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| 08:23 | Joubu | o/ |
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| 08:38 | paul_p | bag = you arrive in Paris on saturday, but when do you arrive in Marseille ? |
| 08:39 | Sophie will probably organise a trip on sunday, for magnus & kivilahtio. Could you be interested to join ? | |
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| 08:55 | huginn` | GERMS!!!! |
| 08:55 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 08:55 | cait | rangi's laptop is broken - he says he won't be able to do sign offs for a while |
| 08:57 | I hope some people can jump in and do some more - the list is long :( | |
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| 09:14 | marcelr | hi cait |
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| 09:22 | cait | hi marcelr |
| 09:22 | marcelr | :) |
| 09:23 | cait | hm and as we are talking about it... my laptop is not broken and I hope to be able to do some QA soon, but also have to work on my distance study right now :( |
| 09:24 | marcelr | cait++ |
| 09:25 | we should have a qaday between friday and saturday | |
| 09:25 | cait | hm we could have one |
| 09:25 | this week would be abit short notice maybe | |
| 09:26 | but i won't be around next week friday/saturday - travelling for the distance study | |
| 09:26 | marcelr | one day more per week |
| 09:26 | ashimema | Indeed.. an extra day would be hugely useful.. |
| 09:26 | there just isn't enough time in a week | |
| 09:26 | marcelr | hi ashimema |
| 09:27 | ashimema | Hi marcelr |
| 09:27 | nice work on qa'ing the zebra locking bug.. was a long slog but it's looking great now. | |
| 09:27 | marcelr | did you test it? |
| 09:27 | ashimema | It's about time I got my QA hat back on and rattled off a few. |
| 09:27 | marcelr | somehow your signoff got lost but it made a comment |
| 09:28 | it->t | |
| 09:28 | I | |
| 09:28 | ashimema | I've not tested again since your followup.. (But reading the code it looks though it shuld work ;) ).. Hopeing to test it some time today |
| 09:28 | marcelr | no problem; i just asked doug to confirm for a last .. time |
| 09:28 | ashimema | I'm not too worried about recognition tbh, just like seeing good code go in ;) |
| 09:30 | marcelr | ashimema++ #for qa work to come :) |
| 09:36 | cait | marcelr++ |
| 09:36 | very glad you took that one | |
| 09:37 | marcelr | np |
| 09:37 | cait | would one of you be able to test sip2? |
| 09:37 | we got 11351 and 6273 in the queue right now | |
| 09:38 | although i think bug 6273 might be afail for an untranslatable string | |
| 09:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6273 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , SIP2 Fee Paid and Fee Paid Response support |
| 09:38 | marcelr | have to complete some others first |
| 09:38 | bug 11351 | |
| 09:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11351 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add support for SIP2 media types |
| 09:38 | cait | marcelr: i am a bit worreid about the transports, i think there are some bugs related not in the queue yet |
| 09:38 | marcelr | how do you mean bugs? |
| 09:39 | cait | bug 11209 |
| 09:39 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11209 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Multi transport types: same messages are sent for a patron |
| 09:39 | cait | bug 10832 |
| 09:39 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10832 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Multi transport types for overdue notices |
| 09:39 | marcelr | the package is not complete, you mean? |
| 09:39 | cait | maybe we should ask Joubu - but i think those might be 2 missing pieces |
| 09:40 | marcelr | ok just to prevent misunderstanding |
| 09:40 | cait | ping Joubu |
| 09:42 | marcelr | but we can qa them separately; probably Galen will sit on them in PQA |
| 09:42 | cait | yeah, just it might come up in testing, so better to know there is more |
| 09:42 | it's a rather huge dependency tree | |
| 09:43 | not sure i completely understand how it all works together | |
| 09:43 | marcelr | which will make it very hard to get it in |
| 09:43 | cait | i saved it for a free weekend day - but that hasn't happened so far, so glad when someone can get to it |
| 09:43 | marcelr | Joubu is still up for a lot of rebasing.. |
| 09:43 | cait | marcelr: but on the other hand completely changing it all in one go is a testing nightmare |
| 09:43 | marcelr | true |
| 09:43 | impossible | |
| 09:43 | cait | and messaging is a end user thing... so a sensitive spt |
| 09:44 | marcelr | but the idea is great |
| 09:44 | cait | i haven't seen all yet, but i like the added flexibility |
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| 09:45 | marcelr | hey KOHA |
| 09:45 | this is a senstive nickname ;) | |
| 09:46 | bye KOHA :) | |
| 09:46 | welcome KOha | |
| 09:46 | welcome Koha sorry | |
| 09:46 | my keyboard does not do what i want him to | |
| 09:47 | cait | i know the feeling :) |
| 09:47 | marcelr: i plan to try and talk to dpavlin about the diacritics on labels things | |
| 09:47 | at the hackfest | |
| 09:48 | i hope that works out :) | |
| 09:48 | marcelr | great |
| 09:48 | cait | i have started a list |
| 09:48 | marcelr | i will miss the hackfest; hope to join next time |
| 09:48 | cait | it woud be nice to see you again |
| 09:48 | marcelr | :) |
| 09:48 | cait | maybe you can be online a bit? there will be lots of bugzilla action :) |
| 09:49 | marcelr | i will see some probably |
| 09:49 | afk | |
| 09:55 | Joubu | pong marcelr and cait! Sorry for the lag |
| 09:55 | Yes it seems 2 patches are not SO yet | |
| 09:56 | but they are bugfixes, so the complete feature can be tested | |
| 09:58 | and 10832 is signed off actually | |
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| 10:15 | ashimema | did koha version get removed from the html meta headers at some point recently? |
| 10:19 | ah.. that's interesting.. if opacPrivate is enabled, you have to be logged in to get koha versions.. | |
| 10:20 | :( | |
| 10:45 | mayankjain | I have imported records in Koha using Stage MARC records for import now when I click on book title it showing duplicate data |
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| 10:56 | mayankjain | have imported records in Koha using Stage MARC records for import now when I click on book title it showing duplicate data |
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| 12:10 | paxed | assuming i've set ZEBRA_LANGUAGE="fi" in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and the /etc/koha/sites/*/zebra-*.cfg point to /etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/fi, where i've got proper sort-string-utf.chr ... what else do i need to change? |
| 12:10 | because searching for "rölli" return also "rolling stone" which is definitely not what we need. "ö" and "o" are two different letters. | |
| 12:12 | this is the sort-string-utf.chr: http://pastebin.com/QBmikeJk | |
| 12:17 | cait | paxed: i think you want to look at the mappings |
| 12:17 | are you using icuß | |
| 12:17 | search and sort are different | |
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| 12:19 | paxed | "the mappings"? |
| 12:19 | cait | the way you index special characters |
| 12:20 | if you are using icu the standard conifugration is that all letters with diacritics can also be searched with the base later, which is what you see there | |
| 12:20 | base letter... | |
| 12:21 | and without icu there are also mapping that will make that happen, it's just a bit different in how it's configured | |
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| 12:23 | cait | bug 2429 has some information |
| 12:23 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2429 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, Syntax error enabling /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha |
| 12:23 | cait | umnot that |
| 12:24 | bug 2629 | |
| 12:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, ago, In Discussion , Diacritics not being ignored when searching |
| 12:27 | paxed | how do i find if zebra is using ICU or now, if it was installed from the debian packages? |
| 12:27 | s/now/not/ | |
| 12:27 | cait | hm it's probably not using ICU then |
| 12:28 | but t might be worth investigating when looking at search | |
| 12:28 | i think it should be somehow visible from the koha-conf file | |
| 12:30 | paxed | rgrep -i icu /etc/koha/ does not return any hits in koha-conf.xml |
| 12:30 | cait | magnuse: around? |
| 12:31 | probably not turned on i think, then the file would be: | |
| 12:31 | etc/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr | |
| 12:31 | for chr indexing | |
| 12:32 | paxed | ok. so zebra provices different lang_defs for sorting, but not for searching. |
| 12:32 | provides* | |
| 12:33 | cait | afaik |
| 12:34 | paxed | lovely |
| 12:36 | how do i provide settings for zebra during install for some $language that needs to be different from english? | |
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| 13:01 | cait | paxed: ? |
| 13:01 | zebra doesn't know which language your records are in | |
| 13:01 | you have one general setting for all your database | |
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| 13:02 | cait | paxed: maybe i am misunderstanding |
| 13:02 | hi paul_p | |
| 13:02 | paul_p | hi cait & others |
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| 13:03 | cait | paul_p: no new registrations today? :) |
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| 13:04 | paul_p | cait no. Only one person coming 3 days instead of 2 ;-) |
| 13:05 | cait | :) |
| 13:18 | paxed | cait: there's several sort-string-utf.chr (for different languages), but only one word-phrase-utf.chr ... |
| 13:19 | cait | paxed: yes, that's true |
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| 13:19 | cait | i think sorting is known to be very different, but searching supposed to be less strict |
| 13:19 | you could change it, either have your own word-phrase-utf or your own icuchain definitions | |
| 13:20 | paxed | not going to bother with that. |
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| 13:22 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:22 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
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| 14:24 | tcohen | hi #koha |
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| 14:44 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 14:44 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 6.0°C (9:35 AM EST on February 20, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:48 | rhcl | @wunder 64507 |
| 14:48 | huginn` | rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 4.4°C (8:48 AM CST on February 20, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 3 PM CST this afternoon... |
| 14:53 | cait | oleonard++ :) |
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| 15:09 | paul_p | 'morning america (north & south= |
| 15:09 | ) | |
| 15:11 | rhcl | hi paul_p |
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| 15:18 | tcohen | morning paul_p |
| 15:18 | paul_p | hi tcohen & rhcl |
| 15:20 | * dbs | waves |
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| 16:01 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11479: Remove experimental given/when keywords <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]538a8e3bbd2ae41c5> / Bug 11478: Replace experimental given/when keywords <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6f6735c8317636068> |
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| 16:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #353 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:15 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Confusing logic, or is it just me?" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/131 |
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| 16:17 | oleonard | ^^ If the above is not confusing to you then you should be able to tell me why it doesn't work. |
| 16:23 | pastebot | Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "? : translated" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132 |
| 16:24 | gmcharlt | oleonard: it boils down to this ^^ |
| 16:24 | not that that's syntatically correct Perl of course, but does it help give you the idea? | |
| 16:24 | oleonard | Yes, thanks |
| 16:26 | * cait | waves and leaves :) |
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| 16:26 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1638 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:32 | oleonard | I guess it is working correctly, it just makes assumptions that I wouldn't have made. |
| 16:33 | For instance: show the subscriptions tab even if your opacSerialDefaultTab is set to "holdings" but you don't have any holdings | |
| 16:39 | gmcharlt | yeah, I can see that being counterintuitve |
| 16:40 | question for you -- in Bootstrap, the OPAC language picker /always/ needs to be scrolled down to regardless of how tall your browser window is | |
| 16:40 | what's causing that? | |
| 16:49 | oleonard | good question gmcharlt |
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| 17:03 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10714 [Follow-up] Redirect to list contents view upon cancel after initiating... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]99237ad2c0efc15e9> / Bug 10714: Redirect to list contents view upon save after initiating edit from list... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4988d2414519ea4b> |
| 17:04 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #353: SUCCESS in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/353/ |
| 17:04 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 11478: Replace experimental given/when keywords | |
| 17:04 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 11479: Remove experimental given/when keywords | |
| 17:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove experimental given/when from Koha::SimpleMARC |
| 17:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11479 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove experimental given/when from C4::MarcModificationTemplates | |
| 17:10 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #354 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:13 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11791 - Use validation plugin when creating new city <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]453a1a1341387dc6a> / Bug 11792 - Use validation plugin when creating new currency <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ac40f219f6167d0a> / Bug 11793 - Use validation plugin when creating new item type <http://git.koha-community.o |
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| 17:27 | smrt | hi does anyone know why in the OPAC the select library pulldown doesn't go back to its orginal position after resizing the window? |
| 17:27 | im using the bootstrap theme | |
| 17:33 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:34 | oleonard | smrt: Because I didn't think that was something that happened often enough to require special handling |
| 17:36 | smrt | oleonard : ok then, i figured it'd be something like that. thanks. |
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| 18:04 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #354: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/354/ |
| 18:04 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10714: Redirect to list contents view upon save after initiating edit from list contents view (staff) | |
| 18:04 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10714 [Follow-up] Redirect to list contents view upon cancel after initiating edit from list contents view (staff) | |
| 18:04 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11785 - Use validation plugin when uploading local cover images | |
| 18:04 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11787 - Use validation plugin when adding new vendor | |
| 18:04 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11788 - Use validation plugin when creating new course | |
| 18:04 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11795 - Use validation plugin when creating new Z39.50 server | |
| 18:04 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11793 - Use validation plugin when creating new item type | |
| 18:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10714 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Redirect to list contents view upon save after initiating edit from list contents view |
| 18:04 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11792 - Use validation plugin when creating new currency |
| 18:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when uploading local cover images |
| 18:04 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11791 - Use validation plugin when creating new city |
| 18:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when adding new vendor |
| 18:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new course | |
| 18:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11795 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new Z39.50 server | |
| 18:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new item type | |
| 18:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11792 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new currency | |
| 18:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new city | |
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| 18:28 | francharb | hello #koha |
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| 18:30 | pianohacker | hi |
| 18:31 | cait | hi all |
| 18:34 | pianohacker | hi cait |
| 18:39 | cait | h pianohacker :) |
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| 18:44 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1638: SUCCESS in 2 hr 19 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1638/ |
| 18:44 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 11478: Replace experimental given/when keywords | |
| 18:44 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 11479: Remove experimental given/when keywords | |
| 18:44 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove experimental given/when from Koha::SimpleMARC |
| 18:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11479 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove experimental given/when from C4::MarcModificationTemplates | |
| 18:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1639 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:06 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11796: fix display of search result facets if facet happens to have exactly six... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d60a13c22c93294b2> |
| 19:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #355 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:16 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11611: DBRev 3.15.00.017 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3d6f90091d0bd4789> / Bug 11611: Rephrase description and examples of 5 MARC related sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1ba16f11ba45267fc> |
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| 19:36 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11272 - add second submit button to inventory form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a3248fd877dc8edce> / Bug 11087: Make the Pay Fines tab the default tab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0cc31a79d4797c579> |
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| 20:06 | Kyle M Hall: Bug 11796: fix display of search result facets if facet happens to have exactly six entries | |
| 20:06 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11796 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Results with 6 facets have missing facet |
| 20:12 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #356 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 20:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10714: Redirect to list contents view upon save after initiating edit from list contents view (staff) | |
| 20:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10714 [Follow-up] Redirect to list contents view upon cancel after initiating edit from list contents view (staff) | |
| 20:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11785 - Use validation plugin when uploading local cover images | |
| 20:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11787 - Use validation plugin when adding new vendor | |
| 20:49 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10714 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Redirect to list contents view upon save after initiating edit from list contents view |
| 20:49 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11788 - Use validation plugin when creating new course |
| 20:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11795 - Use validation plugin when creating new Z39.50 server | |
| 20:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11793 - Use validation plugin when creating new item type | |
| 20:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11792 - Use validation plugin when creating new currency | |
| 20:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11791 - Use validation plugin when creating new city | |
| 20:49 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when uploading local cover images |
| 20:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when adding new vendor | |
| 20:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new course | |
| 20:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11795 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new Z39.50 server | |
| 20:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new item type | |
| 20:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11792 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new currency | |
| 20:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new city | |
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| 21:00 | * wizzyrea | ignores jenkins for now |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | also hi. |
| 21:04 | oleonard | If it weren't for jenkins_koha this place would be silent |
| 21:04 | cait | oh? |
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| 21:06 | rhcl | I like that jenkins writes in pretty red font |
| 21:08 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #356: UNSTABLE in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/356/ |
| 21:08 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11611: Rephrase description and examples of 5 MARC related sysprefs | |
| 21:08 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11611: DBRev 3.15.00.017 | |
| 21:08 | * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 11087: Make the Pay Fines tab the default tab | |
| 21:08 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 11272 - add second submit button to inventory form | |
| 21:08 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11611 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , fix possible confusion between UNIMARC and MARC21 in some sysprefs |
| 21:08 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11087 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , Have the fines tab default to pay fines rather than account | |
| 21:08 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11272 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , copy submit button on inventory | |
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| 21:16 | wizzyrea | it's been quiet lately eh |
| 21:16 | what is up with that? | |
| 21:16 | well I have a question | |
| 21:16 | cait | night :) |
| 21:16 | * oleonard | will have to take his questions off the air |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | when an item is marked longoverdue, does it remove the previously accrued fines? |
| 21:17 | and is that behaviour changeable | |
| 21:17 | (if it is) | |
| 21:17 | gnite cait | |
| 21:18 | cait | look at all th elost prefs |
| 21:18 | i think there is something | |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | it seems like there should be - I forget where they are |
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| 21:19 | wizzyrea | oh this is 3.10 |
| 21:19 | that pref may not be in this version... | |
| 21:19 | thanks cait | |
| 21:19 | I can work from that | |
| 21:20 | yay ok i've not lost my mind. :() | |
| 21:20 | :) WhenLostForgiveFine | |
| 21:20 | and it's not in 3.10 | |
| 22:02 | wajasu | please suggest some bug to work on signing off. i have some time today. and the ones i keep selecting have things keeping them on hold. |
| 22:04 | pianohacker | wajasu: If you're a bit ambitious, there's bug 11211 |
| 22:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar |
| 22:12 | wajasu | will give it a try. |
| 22:25 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "bug11211 patch attempt" (46 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/135 |
| 22:26 | pianohacker | wajasu: that probably got hit in oleonard's latest updates, lemme rebase it |
| 22:26 | wajasu | ok |
| 22:37 | pianohacker | wajasu: done |
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| 22:48 | * mtj | was gonna ask wiz, but its a general question :) |
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| 22:51 | wajasu | pianohacker: are you going to have to add a patch to debian/control for libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl so the packages are ok? i just used apt-get. |
| 22:52 | pianohacker | That's an excellent point, hadn't thought of that. Will do that in a followup |
| 22:52 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1640: SUCCESS in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1640/ |
| 22:52 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11796: fix display of search result facets if facet happens to have exactly six entries | |
| 22:52 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11611: Rephrase description and examples of 5 MARC related sysprefs | |
| 22:52 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11611: DBRev 3.15.00.017 | |
| 22:52 | * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 11087: Make the Pay Fines tab the default tab | |
| 22:52 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 11272 - add second submit button to inventory form | |
| 22:52 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11796 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Results with 6 facets have missing facet |
| 22:52 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11611 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , fix possible confusion between UNIMARC and MARC21 in some sysprefs | |
| 22:52 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11087 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , Have the fines tab default to pay fines rather than account | |
| 22:52 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11272 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , copy submit button on inventory | |
| 22:54 | pianohacker | mtj: asking one of our sysadmins |
| 22:57 | mtj | woo, thanks :) |
| 22:57 | bag | heya mtj |
| 22:57 | pianohacker | mtj: He says we've only got it installed on a couple due to historical reasons and no massive production speed improvements |
| 22:58 | with that, I've gotta vamoose, bye all | |
| 23:00 | mtj | hey brendan |
| 23:00 | thanks for the info jesse | |
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| 23:36 | eythian | hi |
| 23:39 | wahanui: emergency is <reply>0118 999 88199 9119725 ... 3 | |
| 23:39 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 23:41 | dcook | rangi++ |
| 23:41 | Killin' those signoffs |
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