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| 01:13 | dbs | yay, new 8GB ubuntu-precise VM with only openssh server on top of the base install has 1.4GB left after successfully running "make" -- should be enough :) |
| 01:40 | double yay, bibs imported and things a-working | |
| 02:06 | dcook | a-working \o/ |
| 02:06 | * dcook | pokes Tomcat |
| 02:07 | dcook | Wish I could say the same :p |
| 02:09 | * dcook | tries to remember what he was even doing as he waits for Tomcat to reload |
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| 03:09 | * dbs | was doing this: https://github.com/dbs/Koha/tree/bootstrap_rdfa |
| 03:14 | dbs | hmm, should add libxml2-utils to the koha-deps target so that "prove xt" can pass |
| 03:26 | * dbs | files bug 11758 |
| 03:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11758 enhancement, P4, ---, oleonard, NEW , Bootstrap theme needs schema.org RDFa |
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| 04:43 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 05:51 | Oak | hello cait! |
| 05:51 | kia ora #koha | |
| 05:51 | magnuse | |
| 05:51 | cait | hi Oak! |
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| 07:12 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 07:21 | magnuse | kia ora cait and #koha |
| 07:22 | cait | kia ora magnuse |
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| 07:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:37 | wahanui | bidet, reiveune |
| 07:38 | cait | bonjour reiveune |
| 07:38 | reiveune | bonjour cait :) |
| 07:40 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:40 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 5.3°C (8:40 AM CET on February 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:40 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:40 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.21 in 989 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:41 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:41 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.3°C (8:40 AM CET on February 14, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:51 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:51 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
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| 08:04 | magnuse | no build status for 3.14.x on the dashboard? |
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| 08:22 | Joubu1 | hello #koha |
| 08:23 | //msg NickServ ghost Joubu j&ksaàlf | |
| 08:23 | whaou | |
| 08:23 | clear | |
| 08:23 | :) | |
| 08:27 | Joubu | ok password changed... |
| 08:27 | cait | that's a scary password |
| 08:28 | Joubu | I loved it :-( |
| 09:09 | matts | To avoid this kind of mistakes, I always /query NickServ instead of /msg'ing him. |
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| 09:48 | HB | Morning koha i'm running koha under ubuntu and missing 2 perl modules ... there was a command to install them (i dont find my notes on this one) annyone knows how |
| 09:58 | ashimema | if your running on packages you should probably already have all the dependancies.. |
| 09:58 | if not, cpan or cpanm is your friend | |
| 10:00 | HB | was reading about that |
| 10:08 | cait | HB: which one are missing? some you don't really need |
| 10:10 | HB | i just try to be complete and get my notes back in order |
| 10:14 | found it | |
| 10:15 | other question if i want to completely empty an existing koha is there a schortcut or do i better install a new one | |
| 10:21 | magnuse | HB: i usually drop and recreate the db |
| 10:22 | HB | aha |
| 10:22 | magnuse | (login to mysql as the root user, then "drop database x", "create database x") |
| 10:22 | HB | sometimes its simple :) |
| 10:22 | magnuse | then you will have to run the web installer again |
| 10:22 | HB | ok |
| 10:23 | magnuse | so data-wise you start completely from scratch, but you don't have to do another installation |
| 10:23 | ...of the code | |
| 10:23 | HB | well its easy'er to do this so our ldap and stuff stays the same |
| 10:24 | thx | |
| 10:26 | we planning on doing a second koha library (not a test) for lending out materials (not books) so | |
| 11:09 | cait | hm thought there was a duplicate check in acq at some point |
| 11:09 | but can't find it | |
| 11:09 | i remember it had 3 columns/options | |
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| 11:33 | sandeepbhavsar | hi all |
| 11:36 | I am using koha 3.08.10.002 git version. i have created 3-4 libraries under it and now i would like to delete the data of 2 libraries. please guide for the commands to delete the entire data of these 2 libraries | |
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| 11:39 | petter | hello #koha |
| 11:44 | magnuse | hello petter |
| 11:45 | petter | hei magnus! |
| 11:45 | så hyggelig:) | |
| 11:47 | sandeepbhavsar | I am using koha 3.08.10.002 git version. i have created 3-4 libraries under it and now i would like to delete the data of 2 libraries. please guide for the commands to delete the entire data of these 2 libraries |
| 11:48 | magnuse | :-) |
| 11:49 | sandeepbhavsar: there is no easy way to delete all data associated with one library in koha | |
| 11:49 | at least not that i know of | |
| 11:49 | sandeepbhavsar | from phpmyadmin |
| 11:50 | petter | in genral, librarians are not good at getting rid of stuff! |
| 11:50 | magnuse | hehe, true |
| 11:51 | sandeepbhavsar | agree |
| 11:51 | but is there any solution to delete the data of only 1 library from it | |
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| 11:53 | petter | only bibliographic data? |
| 11:53 | or users, transaction history , and other data as well? | |
| 11:53 | sandeepbhavsar | yes |
| 11:53 | only bibliographic data | |
| 11:57 | petter | hm |
| 11:57 | So the info on whitch library is on the items | |
| 11:58 | in the items table | |
| 11:58 | You can easily delete those | |
| 11:58 | Then you have to delete from biblioitems, those that no longer have any items | |
| 11:58 | I think? | |
| 11:58 | In any case, backup your database first! | |
| 11:59 | I'm not familiar enough with the database schema to give you the queries | |
| 11:59 | but something like: DELETE FROM items WHERE homebranch=<branch-to-delete> OR holdingbranch=<branch-to-delete> | |
| 12:04 | cait | depending ont he catalog there might be recordswithout items - like for analytics |
| 12:05 | so maybe keep track of the biblionumbers you delete items from | |
| 12:05 | and then delete the records in the list that no longer have items | |
| 12:05 | hi khall :) | |
| 12:05 | khall | mornin cait! |
| 12:05 | cait | hm thinking about it, if you delete biblio ti should cascade to biblioitem and items |
| 12:06 | sandeepbhavsar | suppose if i delete the library, will automatically the data associated with it will be deleted. |
| 12:11 | cait | sandeepbhavsar: to my knowledge - o |
| 12:11 | no | |
| 12:11 | not all tables have constraints that would ensure that | |
| 12:13 | Operator | hi cait! |
| 12:14 | pablito | hi everyone |
| 12:15 | in cataloging, is there are way for me know if a callnumber I am entering is a duplicate? | |
| 12:27 | cait | pablito: currently not |
| 12:28 | pablito: i think you could try to write a plugin for checking that | |
| 12:28 | pablito | hmm ok, thanks |
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| 12:55 | petter | Anyone build their own debian-packages lately? |
| 12:56 | with debian/build_git_snapshot | |
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| 13:02 | kivilahtio | have a great weekend everyone! |
| 13:02 | read you later! | |
| 13:02 | francharb | good morning #koha |
| 13:02 | magnuse | hi francharb, bye kivilahtio |
| 13:03 | francharb | o/ magnuse |
| 13:03 | kivilahtio | one comes, the other goes... such is life |
| 13:03 | exit | |
| 13:03 | quit | |
| 13:03 | \quit | |
| 13:03 | :) | |
| 13:03 | cait | petter: my coworker built 3.12.9 recently, but probably you are wondering about other versions? |
| 13:04 | petter | cait: I'm building 3.14 with one extra patch |
| 13:04 | it builds fine | |
| 13:04 | cait | :) |
| 13:04 | petter | but somehow the perl dependencies doesn't get installed |
| 13:05 | dpkg -i koha-deps_3.14... fails | |
| 13:08 | magnuse | any error message? |
| 13:10 | petter | the messages are about 100, like this: dpkg: Kravpdoblem hindrer oppsettet av koha-perldeps |
| 13:10 | perl-dependency-x missing | |
| 13:10 | I followed the instructions here: | |
| 13:10 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way | |
| 13:11 | So I'm curious if it works for anyone else | |
| 13:11 | I'm guessing something went wrong in the build | |
| 13:13 | magnuse | tcohen was the last one to edit that page - he might know something |
| 13:14 | petter | jepp, I'll ask him |
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| 13:31 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:33 | magnuse | hiya oleonard |
| 13:34 | jcamins | petter: I build 3.12 packages frequently. |
| 13:34 | petter: after dpkg -i you have to run apt-get install -f. | |
| 13:37 | petter | jcamins: when I run apt-get install -f, koha-perldeps is uninstalled |
| 13:37 | jcamins | petter: sounds like you're missing an apt repo. |
| 13:38 | petter | ah, so I must add the koha repo as well? When installing my own packages? |
| 13:38 | jcamins | Or you have to host all the extra packages in your own repo. |
| 13:38 | There are a bunch of dependencies on debian.k-c.org. | |
| 13:38 | petter | I see, thanks! |
| 13:42 | magnuse | ah jcamins++ |
| 13:49 | petter | Great, I'ts installing now, thanks again :) |
| 13:50 | dbs | oleonard: hoping my bootstrap RDFa patch fits with your general XSL approach |
| 13:52 | magnuse: took a look at the unimarc XSL but wasn't sure where (or if) types like Book / Map / Music get sorted out (varname "leaderMaterialType" in the marc21 xsl). might have just been too late for me though! | |
| 13:53 | magnuse | dbs: i'm the normarc guy, not the unimarc guy ;-) |
| 13:53 | oleonard | dbs: I have had very little to do with the XSL, so you won't hurt my feelings |
| 13:54 | dbs | magnuse: ah! haven't looked at that yet, will bug you when I do (if someone else doesn't get there first!) |
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| 14:01 | magnuse | dbs: if yu do get around to it you can bug me as much as you like! |
| 14:02 | bug 10826 already exists, but it's probably not something i will have time for in the near future... | |
| 14:02 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10826 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add schema.org microdata for NORMARC |
| 14:05 | oleonard | Joubu: Your batch checkout project would be interesting in conjunction with khall's AJAX circ patch: Submit multiple barcodes by default, live-update the table of checkouts. |
| 14:05 | magnuse | so feel free to hijack it, dbs ;-) |
| 14:06 | khall | yes, that would be fanstastic oleonard! I wanted the next step in this project to be a fully ajax based checkouts page! |
| 14:07 | oleonard | We've been talking about it for years. I have a feeling the reason we haven't done it is it's hard :| |
| 14:07 | magnuse | sounds like that would make the checkout page snappier - that would make Viktor happy! :-) |
| 14:07 | khall | and that's basically how I was going to accomplish it ( except for the multiple barcodes at once thing ) |
| 14:07 | yes, I'm expecting it to be a slow process, there is *alot* that does on when checking out items | |
| 14:07 | dbs | magnuse: sure thing! be warned that if I do grab it I'll push RDFa instead of microdata though :) |
| 14:08 | magnuse | khall, oleonard, Joubu: see also bug 9844 |
| 14:08 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a barcode queue to checkout / return |
| 14:08 | magnuse | dbs: sounds good to me! |
| 14:09 | Joubu | khall: I didn't know you are working on that. What is the bug number? |
| 14:09 | khall | 11703 |
| 14:10 | oleonard | Bug 11703 |
| 14:10 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable |
| 14:10 | khall | so far what I'm doing is ajaxifying all the tables so we can get circulation.pl to load as quickly as possible to increase responsiveness |
| 14:11 | Joubu | arg, so bad |
| 14:14 | oleonard | Joubu: ? |
| 14:14 | Joubu | I planned to do something like that, but fortunately, I didn't have the time. |
| 14:15 | oleonard: I finished to write my patch yesterday and it is already obsolete... | |
| 14:15 | oleonard | :( |
| 14:16 | magnuse | obsolete or in need of a rebase? |
| 14:17 | Joubu | need a big rebase, I think |
| 14:19 | What it shows is we don't communicate enough on developments in progress. | |
| 14:20 | Here it's my fault, I didn't check the bug reports before to start | |
| 14:22 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #47 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:22 | Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #47: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.12.x/47/ | |
| 14:22 | Nicole C. Engard: update patron image size from 520K to 100K | |
| 14:26 | Joubu | khall: well done! It's a great improvement! |
| 14:26 | khall | thanks! I'm working on the qa followups right now |
| 14:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #19 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:27 | Joubu | khall: some licenses are wrong |
| 14:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #19: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.14.x/19/ |
| 14:27 | * Nicole C. Engard: update patron image size from 520K to 100K | |
| 14:27 | * Nicole C. Engard: tools: update patron image size from 520K to 100K | |
| 14:28 | khall | yep, I'll hvae to fix that |
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| 14:32 | magnuse | khall++ Joubu++ |
| 14:34 | cait | i know it's a lot to read |
| 14:34 | but maybe subscribe to bugzilla mailing list | |
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| 14:34 | cait | even if you only scan it, you get some idea about what's going on... |
| 14:34 | and of course, filing bug reports before starting on something also helps :) | |
| 14:34 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 14:35 | oleonard | git stash... where ambitious dreams go to die... |
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| 14:35 | cait | @quote add oleonard: git stash... where ambitious dreams go to die... |
| 14:35 | huginn` | cait: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 14:35 | cait | am i not registered? hm |
| 14:36 | @quote add oleonard: git stash... where ambitious dreams go to die... | |
| 14:36 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. Quote #297 added. |
| 14:36 | cait | hah. |
| 14:36 | @quote get 297 | |
| 14:37 | huginn` | cait: Quote #297: "oleonard: git stash... where ambitious dreams go to die..." (added by cait at 02:36 PM, February 14, 2014) |
| 14:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #448 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:39 | Project Koha_Docs build #448: SUCCESS in 26 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/448/ | |
| 14:39 | * Nicole C. Engard: update patron image size from 520K to 100K | |
| 14:39 | * Nicole C. Engard: tools: update patron image size from 520K to 100K | |
| 14:47 | Joubu | magnuse: is that you who added the "optimisation, perf, prof, etc." on the gdoc ? |
| 14:47 | magnuse: context: hackfest14 :) | |
| 14:48 | magnuse | Joubu: yup |
| 14:48 | Joubu | I just see you are in the "group members". Is it mean you propose to present NYTProf ? |
| 14:48 | or you are searching for someone? | |
| 14:49 | magnuse | searching for someone! |
| 14:49 | i have played with it a tiny bit, but not enough to tell others about it | |
| 14:50 | Joubu | what are you expecting for? |
| 14:50 | magnuse | dunno - i just think it might be a handy tool to use for improving koha |
| 14:51 | but i'm open to suggestions :-) | |
| 14:51 | i added it partly because the two others from oslo public library expressed an interest in it | |
| 14:52 | Joubu | I can try to prepare something if nobody does it (in Frenglish, official language for the Hackfest) |
| 14:52 | magnuse | lol, that would be great! |
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| 14:54 | * magnuse | calls it a week - have fun #koha! |
| 14:54 | * dbs | wishes he could contribute his franglais to the hackfest |
| 14:55 | * oleonard | too |
| 14:57 | * dbs | was a bit surprised there is no place to store library opening hours in stock koha, had been hoping to teach koha to publish per-library pages of info. Guess we could still put name / address / contact info, but hours seems like a necessary component |
| 14:57 | cait | what's the german version of frenglish? germanglish? *ponders* |
| 14:57 | dbs: pianohacker is workingo n that | |
| 14:57 | dbs | frallemanglais? |
| 14:57 | cait | it's just a bit of a bigger project i guess |
| 14:57 | dbs | cait++ # thanks for the headsup |
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| 15:18 | Joubu | how can I access to serials/serial-issues.pl? |
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| 15:30 | Joubu | khall: Could you please answer me on bug 11644 comment 7? |
| 15:30 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11644 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Cannot update fund if total is equal to amount unallocated |
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| 15:31 | huginn` | GERMS!!!! |
| 15:31 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 15:31 | cait | gr |
| 15:31 | khall | Joubu: I honestly cannot remember : \ |
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| 15:33 | cait | have a nice weekend all! |
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| 15:33 | Joubu | khall: I cannot reproduce following the test plan |
| 15:34 | khall | Joubu: that was my best attempt at a test plan. I've seen this bug in production for at least 2 libraries, but I've never been able to reproduce it locally |
| 15:38 | Joubu | khall: did you seen bug 11675? Maybe it is linked to yours |
| 15:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11675 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Budget amount is not checked if a parent exist |
| 15:38 | khall | I just so'ed it! |
| 15:46 | pablito | hi all |
| 15:47 | i have script that does this to the database | |
| 15:47 | UPDATE items SET location = 'REF' WHERE itype = 'REF'; | |
| 15:47 | the problem is, nothing is affected, what am I doing wrong? | |
| 15:50 | khall | pablito: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 15:53 | Joubu | oleonard: bug 11763: the action list is opened above the button, is it wanted? |
| 15:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11763 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Consolidate fund action links into menu |
| 15:54 | oleonard | Joubu: I thought that would be better because it would be less likely to be displayed below the browser view |
| 15:55 | Joubu | oleonard: are you sure? There is the DT pager below the table |
| 15:57 | khall: did you see my note on bug 11752 before passing qa on it? | |
| 15:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11752 minor, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Passed QA , In OPAC, the serials details display the wrong periodicity |
| 15:58 | oleonard | Joubu: I don't understand. |
| 15:59 | khall | Joubu: nope, my bad. Should that bug go to Failed QA? |
| 16:05 | Joubu | oleonard: Not important, I signed it off :) |
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| 16:05 | Joubu | khall: I don't know, I'm waiting an answer |
| 16:05 | francharb: ? | |
| 16:05 | oleonard | I was no fan of YUI but it was nice that YUI menus detected whether they would appear out of view and change direction accordingly |
| 16:09 | pablito | Joubu: I am trying to set the Shelving Location for certain book types |
| 16:10 | like Reference books in the Reference room while the regular books in General Stacks | |
| 16:14 | francharb | Joubu, ? |
| 16:14 | wahanui | Joubu, is my FF installation was in french ? |
| 16:15 | Joubu | wahanui: ... maybe |
| 16:15 | wahanui | Joubu: sorry... |
| 16:15 | Joubu | francharb: could you have a look at bug 11752? |
| 16:15 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11752 minor, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, In Discussion , In OPAC, the serials details display the wrong periodicity |
| 16:15 | oleonard | pablito: Your query looks correct to me. Do you get results for select count(*) from items where itype = 'REF'; ? |
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| 16:15 | Joubu | It is written by Philippe |
| 16:15 | francharb | Joubu, yes |
| 16:15 | Je sais | |
| 16:15 | ;) | |
| 16:17 | pablito | oleonard: I do, but only a few entries...it should say thousands |
| 16:32 | oleonard: ah, i found the problem, i had an SQL before this one | |
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| 16:36 | * cait | waves |
| 16:39 | pablito | hi cait :-) |
| 16:39 | cait | hi :) |
| 16:39 | pablito | how's it going? |
| 16:44 | have a good night | |
| 16:44 | gotta go | |
| 16:50 | cait | oleonard++ |
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| 17:27 | reiveune | bye |
| 17:27 | reiveune left #koha | |
| 17:34 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 17:44 | slef | is there a GBSD planned? |
| 17:44 | GBSD? | |
| 17:44 | wahanui | well, GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day - http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 17:45 | oleonard | It's been a while slef, maybe you could propose one? |
| 17:45 | slef | I will, but I don't want to tread on anyone's calendars. |
| 17:46 | oleonard | Marseille hackfest is coming up, that's like a GBSW |
| 17:46 | * oleonard | pictures a Global Bug Squashing Wombat |
| 17:47 | slef | mmm, Wombat... does that cook well? |
| 17:47 | jcamins | slef: Bob or Irma might know. |
| 17:48 | slef | Koha Hackfest for March 10 – 14 2014 in Marseilles France. Can anyone add that to "Upcoming Events" on http://koha-community.org/ easily? I've login problems to fix first. |
| 18:03 | talljoy | any suggestions for migrating a Koha 2.2 to 3.14.3? |
| 18:03 | jcamins | talljoy: Holy Water. |
| 18:04 | talljoy | considering flattening it out and pulling out the data to import into 3.14. |
| 18:04 | but could install on 3.0 and upgrade 22 to 30 and then step it up to 3.14 | |
| 18:04 | but yah. | |
| 18:04 | that 2.2 data structure is alien. | |
| 18:04 | jcamins | talljoy: I don't upgrade 2.2 when I have to deal with it. I just export the data and migrate it like its a foreign ILS. |
| 18:05 | talljoy | that's how i'm leaning. i see the marc in the marc_breeding (who named that?) |
| 18:05 | anything i need to look for in marc_blob_subfield or marc_biblio? | |
| 18:06 | i can parse out the stuff in items. looks like category was the old 'itemtype' | |
| 18:07 | issues has old and current checkouts. | |
| 18:07 | jcamins this was pre zebra, no? | |
| 18:07 | which would explain some of the tables i'm seeing | |
| 18:08 | slef | talljoy: I think I've seen rangi suggest the same as jcamins says too. |
| 18:08 | and yes, 2.2 was pre-zebra | |
| 18:08 | talljoy | that makes sense, i can slough off alot of this then. |
| 18:09 | druthb | and I, talljoy. Anything prior to about 3.4, I just treat it like a foreign ILS. Extract, mash, and import. Attempting an upgrade is *madness* |
| 18:09 | talljoy | heh |
| 18:09 | * talljoy | is feeling crazed today |
| 18:10 | * oleonard | reminds everyone to stay vigilant lest the MARCs breed |
| 18:10 | druthb | it's your grey hairs to get doing it, but I don't recommend it. |
| 18:10 | talljoy | biblioitems contains the itemtype i thinks in 2.2? |
| 18:11 | druthb | yup |
| 18:11 | * talljoy | loves a new puzzle |
| 18:12 | talljoy | oleonard no joke. scary business. like gremlins marc is. |
| 18:12 | keep it away from water. | |
| 18:16 | need water brb | |
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| 18:19 | magnuse | more marc? |
| 18:19 | wahanui | http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800 |
| 18:21 | talljoy | you are correct wahanui |
| 18:28 | cait | oleonard: clean up frenzy? |
| 18:29 | oleonard | Yeah why not |
| 18:29 | cait | lots of patches :) |
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| 19:24 | oleonard | When defining tags in MARC tag structures and Authority types should the tag field always be numeric? |
| 19:25 | jcamins | oleonard: that's probably not a reasonable assumption. |
| 19:25 | @quote get 123 | |
| 19:25 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 19:25 | huginn` | jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 19:25 | jcamins | It's a nice thought, though. |
| 19:26 | cait | oleonard: it can have letters i think |
| 19:27 | oleonard | Okay, I saw some unused validation code on the page for requiring numeric input and wondered it it was supposed to be in use |
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| 20:35 | oleonard | When creating a new notice should code, name, and message subject all be required fields? |
| 20:36 | cait | hmm |
| 20:36 | i think for slips you don't need a subject | |
| 20:36 | but emails it makes sense | |
| 20:37 | oleonard | ...but no way to know whether one is setting up an email or a slip, so you can't require it |
| 20:38 | cait | yeah |
| 20:38 | was wondering if it would hurt to require it for slips | |
| 20:38 | on the other side... an email without a subject still works | |
| 20:38 | and not even email software requires it | |
| 20:40 | oleonard | Seems like it would be doing the world a favor to require it for emails if we could |
| 20:57 | cait | oleonard: you have a point there |
| 21:29 | oleonard | Bye #koha have a good weekend |
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| 21:41 | gml | hello. |
| 21:41 | manage-marc-import.pl doesn't work, in the web interface it doesn't change from "0%", and looking into the code, it got stuck in BackgroundJob::new(), just before the return line. | |
| 21:41 | plz someone give me some light on that. | |
| 21:43 | *would | |
| 22:24 | plz someone would give me some light on that | |
| 22:24 | manage-marc-import.pl doesn't work, in the web interface it doesn't change from "0%", and looking into the code, it got stuck in BackgroundJob::new(), just before the return line. | |
| 22:53 | jcamins | gml: the task may be running as a background job. It can take a while. It could also be that your file is too large. Or that your internet connection is glitchy. Or that you are out of disk space. Or that you are using Internet Explorer. |
| 22:54 | But Friday evening/Saturday morning is not generally a good time to look for help on #koha. You might be better off sending an e-mail, since people might see the e-mail Monday morning when they get back to work. | |
| 23:01 | gml | that's not a good time in my country too, the fridays' "happy hour" and all of this... |
| 23:02 | I'm testing with a batch with only 1 record | |
| 23:04 | I've not considered a browser approach. I'm using Firefox, but I'd thought the problem could come from the client. | |
| 23:06 | I mean, I 'd not considered that the problem could come from the browser. | |
| 23:07 | jcamins | Yeah, the browser will occasionally randomly decide not to refresh from the AJAX. |
| 23:07 | Going to a different page and then following a link back to the batch often results in the import being finished. | |
| 23:09 | Well, the import finishes regardless, but you don't see the finished status without changing pages. | |
| 23:09 | Of course, that only applies if you are using Apache. If you're using any sort of fastcgi, all bets are off on the record importing. | |
| 23:12 | My rule of thumb is that staging/importing records doesn't work under Plack/fastcgi. | |
| 23:14 | gml | The server is on Apache. |
| 23:14 | what about BackgroundJob.pm? perhaps do you know why is the execution stopping in there? | |
| 23:15 | jcamins | Nope, sorry. |
| 23:15 | I can't really help troubleshoot much, but out of curiosity, what do you mean by "stopping"? | |
| 23:18 | gml | I put logaction "marks" across the code in BackgroundJob.pm, and in certain point some marks do not appear in log. That's the way I know about execution. |
| 23:19 | But I'm supposing something about threads or some parallel thing, | |
| 23:20 | jcamins | Oh, yeah, you can't use logging for debugging that code. |
| 23:20 | STDOUT is closed. | |
| 23:20 | As is STDERR. | |
| 23:20 | Actually, I think *all* filehandles might be closed. | |
| 23:22 | gml | all from STDERR appears in koha-error.log , right? |
| 23:23 | jcamins | Except when you're working with the import code. In the import code, STDERR is basically just thrown out. |
| 23:30 | gml | I'll find out the koha support emails |
| 23:30 | thank you jcamins | |
| 23:30 | and thx to someone for the security release news |
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