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02:00 | Bruce_ | Is it time? |
02:01 | Or is it just me and two dozen sleeping bots? | |
02:01 | dcook | Error. Does not compute. |
02:02 | What time might you be thinking of, Bruce_? | |
02:02 | Bruce_ | Sorry, I thought now was 1800 on 5 Feb -- time for the meeting. Did I miscalculate the hour? |
02:03 | dcook | I do believe so |
02:03 | Right now is... 6 February 2014 02:00 UTC | |
02:04 | I think the last meeting was actually around 24 hours ago? | |
02:04 | The next one being 5 March | |
02:04 | Bruce_ | Yup. I did miscalculate the time. Bother. |
02:04 | Oh well, saved myself a half hour. See you next month! | |
02:05 | dcook | If you're curious, the minutes should be posted on the website |
02:05 | They'd also be available in the IRC logs | |
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04:29 | mtompset | Greetings, dcook. |
04:29 | Anything interesting happening with you? | |
04:32 | dcook | You have no idea |
04:32 | :p | |
04:32 | You? | |
04:32 | wahanui | You are not the first to ask that question |
04:35 | mtompset | Trying to avoid more paperwork, but I need to get back to it. |
04:35 | Why oh why do we need to have paperwork for everything in life? | |
04:36 | God created life. Satan created paperwork. | |
04:37 | dcook | Sounds about right to me. |
04:37 | I think chocolate is on the menu for tonight in an attempt to forget about bureaucracy (amongst other things) | |
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04:39 | * Oak | waves |
04:40 | dcook | hey Oak |
04:41 | Oak | hello dcook :) |
04:41 | kia ora #koha | |
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05:39 | mtompset | Okay... CentOS 5.10 installed... just to see what the state of CentOS is. :) |
05:50 | Oak | hello cait |
05:50 | cait | hi Oak |
05:50 | Oak | got 5 minutes? |
05:50 | cait | hm yes |
05:51 | Oak | any pointers, links, anything on how to manage serials in Koha? so far I am reading this: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ls-td4264662.html |
05:51 | and this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Analytics | |
05:51 | cait | hm you chcked nicole's manual? |
05:52 | what do you need/wnat to do? | |
05:52 | Oak | reading it: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]4/en/serials.html |
05:52 | need to catalogue about 15 serials' subscriptions. will leave the back issues. | |
05:53 | cait | ah |
05:53 | 15 is not much | |
05:53 | Oak | i'll finish the manual, and snything i can find, then i'll ask you guys. |
05:53 | i know. | |
05:53 | cait | it's a bit hard to answer as a general question |
05:53 | Oak | yes i know :) sorry. |
05:53 | cait | and i just woke up :) |
05:53 | Oak | no worries, i'll ask when i am ready. |
05:54 | heh :) | |
05:54 | cait | it will be alright :) |
05:55 | Oak | oh one specific question |
05:55 | how do i find volume and issue number of say reader's digest? | |
05:55 | it's not written on it as far as i can tell | |
05:55 | cait | hm |
05:55 | not sure | |
05:56 | Oak | okay |
05:56 | cait | you could look at an older year and try to find the issues |
05:56 | Oak | google? |
05:56 | wahanui | google is not a web browser, it's an advertising company with a pretty good search engine. |
05:56 | cait | i mean count them...and google |
05:56 | also someone of the US librairans might know | |
05:56 | Oak | hmm |
05:56 | cool | |
06:33 | * mtompset | is trying out perlbrew for the first time ever using CentOS 5.10 :) |
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07:18 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha |
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07:49 | reiveune | hello |
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07:51 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:51 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
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07:57 | marcelr | hi #koha |
07:57 | cait | hi marcelr |
07:57 | marcelr | :) |
08:02 | matts | hi |
08:02 | cait | hi matts :) |
08:04 | marcelr | hi matts |
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08:15 | Joubu | hi |
08:15 | wahanui | what's up, Joubu |
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08:28 | gaetan_B | hello |
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09:53 | kivilahtio | when defining print labes, is it possible to use the current date as a parameter |
09:54 | I mean when Modifying Notices? | |
09:56 | <<today>> ? | |
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10:31 | cait | kivilahtio: in some of the notices it's supported |
10:31 | <<today>> like you wrote, but not in all yet i think | |
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11:51 | francharb | good morning |
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12:02 | drojf | hi #koha |
12:12 | marcelr | hi drojf |
12:13 | drojf | hi marcelr |
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12:16 | kivilahtio | hi marcelr |
12:16 | marcelr | hi kivilahtio |
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12:24 | drojf | is git really slow or is that just me? |
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13:59 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
13:59 | Greetings, druthb. ;) | |
14:00 | druthb | hi. :) |
14:11 | kivilahtio | Is there a automated mechanism for claiming items? Set Item missing/lost, add a fine to a borrower based on the items.replacementprice? |
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14:23 | gaetan_B | i have a question for our nordic friends here, maybe kivilahtio will have an idea ? i wanted to ask magnus_away |
14:23 | in swedish, letters like ä belong to the end of the alphabet | |
14:23 | kivilahtio | sh007 |
14:24 | vwxyzåäö | |
14:24 | gaetan_B | but zebra will sort them between a and b |
14:24 | kivilahtio | :D |
14:24 | gaetan_B | is there a way to change this ? |
14:24 | kivilahtio | I hope so |
14:24 | gaetan_B | is it the same in suomi ? |
14:24 | kivilahtio | we just searched for "Rölli" and got Rolling Stones |
14:24 | gaetan_B | :D |
14:25 | it's different thought i think this is because zebra will transliterrat ö to o | |
14:25 | so that in french you can search for casse instead of cassé and still get an answer (which a lot of people want usually) | |
14:25 | kivilahtio | I cannot give you any answers but magnus_away sure can |
14:26 | gaetan_B | but maybe ö is considered a totally different letter for you ? instead of an accented letter like é is to e for us ? |
14:26 | kivilahtio | yes |
14:26 | gaetan_B | i see |
14:26 | cait | kivilahtio: it depends on configuration |
14:26 | kivilahtio | ö is a pure letter, it is not accented |
14:26 | cait | there was an email to the list recently how to change that |
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14:26 | cait | i don't remember where the person was from. hm. |
14:26 | jcamins | gaetan_B: you have to set the order of the alphabet in the Zebra configuration file. |
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14:26 | gaetan_B | so it would be feasible, interesting |
14:26 | kivilahtio | truly! |
14:27 | gaetan_B | (if i ever do a phd, i would want to do it on the alphabetical order !) |
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14:27 | gaetan_B | jcamins: do you know which file exactly ? |
14:27 | cait | jcamins: do you remember who asked on the mailing list? |
14:27 | jcamins | sort-string-utf.chr |
14:27 | wahanui | well, sort-string-utf.chr is explained at http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]er-map-files.html |
14:28 | jcamins | cait: someone asked on the mailing list? |
14:28 | (no) | |
14:28 | cait | yeh not long ago |
14:28 | about sorting | |
14:28 | gaetan_B | ah found it thanks |
14:28 | cait | there were some hints on how to change it |
14:28 | Re: [Koha]wrong sorting order of results beginning with accented letters (č, š, ř, ž,...) | |
14:28 | on the koha list, 20.1.2014 | |
14:28 | gaetan_B | oh and you even have one such file per language |
14:29 | does that mean zebra is able to sort a german title that starts with Ä at the beginning of the list with a swedish title at the end in the same results ?? | |
14:29 | jcamins | gaetan_B: no, you have to choose one alphabet and stick with it. |
14:29 | gaetan_B | ok that makes sense |
14:30 | kivilahtio | wow this was good news |
14:30 | thanks for bringing this out gaetan_B | |
14:30 | gaetan_B | :) |
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14:37 | gaetan_B | i have another more generic question : when placing in a library say in Paris, for a book located in Marseille, |
14:37 | if emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced is active | |
14:38 | it seems the librarian getting the notification will be the one from Paris (the library the borrower belongs to) and not the one from Marseille (the library the book belongs to) | |
14:38 | can someone confirm this ? | |
14:38 | i think it should be the other way around | |
14:38 | so that the librarians know they need to pull a book from the shelves | |
14:39 | i can't see a good reason why it would work this way right now | |
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14:42 | gaetan_B | well cait, thanks to you i think i just discovered another koha list i am not yet subscribed to ! o_o |
14:42 | cait | koha main list? ohoh |
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14:43 | vfernandes | hi... there are here any expert on koha acquisitions? |
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14:53 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
14:53 | cait | vfernandes: what's the question? |
14:53 | wahanui | the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
14:54 | druthb | wahanui: answer? |
14:54 | wahanui | answer is always go back to sleep or 42 |
14:58 | oleonard | So... anyone else have problems with the suspend holds feature in the OPAC? When I specify a date it gets saved as 0000-00-00 |
14:59 | mtompset | oleonard: Can you give me a bunch of steps to reproduce? |
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15:01 | oleonard | 1. Enable SuspendHoldsOpac and AutoResumeSuspendedHolds |
15:01 | 2. Place a hold | |
15:01 | 3. View your list of holds in the OPAC | |
15:01 | 4. Suspend a hold and specify a date for resumption | |
15:04 | Specifically: 4. Suspend an individual hold (in master) and specify a date for resumption | |
15:04 | Suspending all seems to work correctly. | |
15:10 | tcohen | @later tell gmcharlt done |
15:10 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
15:10 | gmcharlt | tcohen++ |
15:14 | mtompset | 1 is default, it would seem. |
15:15 | Okay... dumb question. How do I place a hold? | |
15:18 | oleonard | If you don't see any links which say "place hold" then you may have RequestOnOpac turned off |
15:20 | tcohen | jcamins, do u think we should just get rid of getRecords and stick with SimpleSearch + a proper SearchFacets function that retrieves the facets directly from zebra? |
15:20 | jcamins | Yes. |
15:20 | mtompset | -- or I don't have the item checked out requiring a hold to be placed? |
15:21 | tcohen | does SimpleSearch respect the business logic regarding sysprefs that getRecords implements? |
15:21 | jcamins | No, I think that should be added. |
15:22 | But SimpleSearch is a uch less horrifying piece of code. | |
15:22 | *much | |
15:22 | * tcohen | loves how SimpleSearch reads |
15:24 | mtompset | Sorry... too much learning to try to duplicate. |
15:24 | And I need to put on my chauffeur's hat. | |
15:29 | oleonard | gmcharlt: Equinox Koha demo sites offline? |
15:29 | * gmcharlt | takes a look |
15:30 | oleonard | paul_p: Biblibre Koha demo sites offline? |
15:32 | mtompset | oleonard: Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold.? |
15:33 | oleonard | mtompset: You probably don't have a default hold rule set up in Circulation and fine rules? |
15:33 | jcamins | @marc 952 |
15:33 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
15:33 | huginn | jcamins: unknown tag 952 |
15:33 | mtompset | likely... where? |
15:34 | Joubu | oleonard: BibLibre demo looks online: http://demo.biblibre.com/cgi-b[…]earch.pl?idx=&q=d |
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15:34 | fridolin | hie all |
15:34 | oleonard | mtompset: Administration -> Circulation and fine rules |
15:34 | cait | mtompset: check the maximal holds in your circulation rules |
15:34 | jcamins | :q |
15:34 | Whoops. Wrong window. | |
15:34 | gmcharlt | no! don't leave us! |
15:35 | mtompset | defaults not set... that's it. |
15:35 | oleonard | Joubu: Okay, so the wrong link on this page then? http://koha-community.org/demo/ |
15:35 | Joubu | oleonard: this one is not really the BibLibre demo. It's the koha-fr demo |
15:36 | maybe we host it, i don't know | |
15:38 | paul_p | oleonard = that's probably an outdated link. There's no more koha-fr.org demo. (and BibLibre don't manage koha-fr.org anymore, its managed by kohala) |
15:38 | Joubu | paul_p: so, should we change the url? |
15:38 | paul_p | Joubu yep |
15:38 | oleonard | Okay thanks. I'm just trying to find demos running master so I can confirm my suspend holds bug |
15:40 | mtompset | oleonard: I think I may have found a bug or two to fix... ARG. :( |
15:41 | oleonard | and by the way mtompset, my email sending problems were because of a broken Postfix config (not sure when that happened, it worked before), so thanks for the link |
15:41 | mtompset | No problem. |
15:41 | chauffeur's hat... | |
15:41 | Joubu | oleonard: hum... the BibLibre's demo is not running on master (but 3.10.12) |
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15:42 | oleonard | Thankfully sending a cart by email doesn't fail silently so I knew more about the problem |
15:46 | * oleonard | can't reproduce Bug 11698 |
15:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11698 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , can't create a budget |
15:48 | Joubu | oleonard: I got it last week. Try to add a budget with a big amount (something like 100000000000000000 should be enough :)) |
15:48 | oleonard: I didn't provide a patch, I consider nobody does that, except me. It appears I am not the only one :) | |
15:49 | oleonard | Yup that did it. Koha obviously knows I'm not good for that much cash. |
15:52 | Joubu | I reproduce just right now |
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15:55 | Joubu | in Number::Format->round: croak "round() overflow. Try smaller precision or use Math::BigFloat" if $product > MAX_INT; |
15:57 | kivilahtio | Any idea can I define some other date formats for the message templates than 2014-02-06 11:25:00 ? |
15:58 | its tedious to change them afterwards | |
15:58 | oleonard | kivilahtio: Is Bug 11244 related? |
15:58 | kivilahtio | actually nevermind the tediousness thats pretty easy with regexps |
15:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11244 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , notices ignoring the dateformat preference |
15:59 | cait | kivilahtio: bug 11244 should fix that |
16:01 | kivilahtio | I was hoping to go home :( |
16:04 | with this patch the overdue_notices.pl script takes 20x longer to run | |
16:04 | and I have 12 items waiting in the message_queue | |
16:05 | I'll report that | |
16:07 | cait | kivilahtio: you shoudl report that - thx for testing! |
16:07 | kivilahtio | cait: on it :) |
16:34 | I am skiing home! Take care! | |
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16:55 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Is one of these preferred? I see both used" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/108 |
17:05 | cait | bye all :) |
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17:06 | oleonard | Anyone have an opinion about that paste? ^^ |
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17:08 | chris_n | the law of conservation of time as applied to computers simply says that whatever time you save by using your computer someone else will spend supporting your computer |
17:08 | * chris_n | heads off to find food |
17:14 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
17:14 | tcohen | bye |
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17:33 | reiveune | bye |
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17:36 | * oleonard | feels like Bug 11702 just proves he's gone crazy... surely suspending an individual hold is (was?) working for others if Bug 10774 passed QA |
17:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11702 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Can't specify date for automatic resumption of suspended hold |
17:37 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow individual holds to be suspended and resumed from the OPAC | |
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17:41 | tcohen | reserves? |
17:41 | wahanui | reserves is giving every normal person evil headaches. |
17:41 | tcohen | heh |
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17:56 | pianohacker | hallo |
17:57 | oleonard | Hi pianohacker, druthb |
17:57 | pianohacker | hey oleonard |
17:57 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
17:58 | * cait | waves |
18:12 | pianohacker | hey cait |
18:15 | cait | hi pianohacker:) |
18:17 | bag | heya pianohacker |
18:17 | wahanui | i think pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems. |
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18:25 | michael_poland | hello |
18:25 | oleonard | Hi michael_poland |
18:25 | michael_poland | Hello, My question is how do I make a search was copies available for reference? Stay I can not find it. I have KOHA 3.14. Please reply as soon as possible! |
18:27 | oleonard | michael_poland: Can you clarify please? I don't understand what you're asking. |
18:29 | michael_poland | I want the search results come up copies for reference |
18:31 | http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]anch_group_limit= - the windows 95 this appears - Copies available for reference: East Branch [100000000267] (1 ). | |
18:32 | ?? | |
18:33 | Help me | |
18:33 | oleonard | michael_poland: That item has been marked "not for loan" |
18:34 | You can change this setting on the item edit screen | |
18:34 | michael_poland | oleonard: yes "not for loan" |
18:35 | How? | |
18:37 | I have everything set just can not display the search result copies not for loan. | |
18:40 | oleonard | "Everything set?" You mean you have edited the item and set it to "not for loan?" |
18:42 | michael_poland | Set and does nothing: ( |
18:42 | cait | michael_poland: what do you want to do? |
18:42 | if you mark an item not for loan, it will be displayed for reference | |
18:43 | it's working as it should here | |
18:43 | http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]3A%20windows%2095 < look at the detail page, one is for lona the other is not | |
18:43 | oleonard | michael_poland: Is your catalog online? |
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18:45 | michael_poland | cait: http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]anch_group_limit= -------- position 1, and displays Copies available for reference: East Branch [100000000267] (1). |
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18:45 | michael_poland | oleonard: Not far have directory locally. |
18:46 | cait | i am sorry, i think i don't undestand the problem :( |
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18:47 | michael_poland | Cait: :( |
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18:49 | pianohacker | michael_poland: what do you want to change? |
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18:51 | michael_poland | pianohacker: To the OPAC appeared Copies available for reference |
18:51 | pianohacker | michael_poland: What are you trying to change about that? |
18:53 | michael_poland | How should I set up at all and still does not appear copies for reference |
18:54 | pianohacker | michael_poland: You want "copies available for reference" to not show up? |
18:55 | michael_poland | show up |
18:55 | pianohacker | michael_poland: But it does show up now. What do you want to change? |
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18:58 | michael_poland | that showed up |
18:59 | pianohacker | michael_poland: Are you trying to change which items show as "copies available for reference"? |
18:59 | michael_poland | I'll download TeamViewer it can help someone to set. |
19:00 | pianohacker | michael_poland: Just give us a screenshot |
19:02 | michael_poland: None of us have TeamViewer | |
19:05 | michael_poland | I have teamviewer so I can show only because I have Koha locally |
19:05 | pianohacker | michael_poland: Have you run rebuild_zebra? |
19:05 | oleonard | michael_poland: When you open the item for editing does it show the correct Not for Loan status? |
19:06 | michael_poland | yes run rebuild_zebra |
19:13 | http://michalx007.cba.pl/koha/koha.JPG | |
19:14 | pianohacker | michael_poland: Oh, it's not showing the call number? |
19:14 | michael_poland: It seems to be showing just the name of the library the reference items are at | |
19:15 | michael_poland | She did not display copies available for reference |
19:16 | pianohacker | michael_poland: There is one being displayed. Are there more that aren't? |
19:18 | michael_poland | Look at this! Web http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com -> http://michalx007.cba.pl/koha/BYWATER.JPG |
19:19 | Look at this au me this is not what is underlined. | |
19:20 | sorry my english | |
19:20 | Look at it in me that is not what is underlined. | |
19:21 | I'll be back | |
19:22 | pianohacker | michael_poland: The differences I see are that the call number is displayed on ByWater's site but not on your site |
19:22 | michael_poland: You have your reference book at a library or location called "Reference", which is why that is displayed strangely | |
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19:27 | michael_poland | http://michalx007.cba.pl/koha/reference.JPG |
19:27 | oleonard | pianohacker: Are you able to see michael_poland's screenshots? All of them are 404's for me. |
19:27 | pianohacker | I see them, yes |
19:28 | michael_poland | Now it should be ok |
19:29 | oleonard | Looks like all of cba.pl is blocked by our firewall for security reasons. |
19:31 | michael_poland | I do not know, is a general hosting |
19:32 | oleonard | I'm sure it's not your fault michael_poland :) |
19:33 | pianohacker | michael_poland: Your items are in a library (miejsce?) called Reference. |
19:34 | michael_poland | yes |
19:34 | pianohacker | That's why ByWater's website shows it as Copies available for reference: East Branch |
19:34 | The part in brackets that you're missing is a call number | |
19:34 | michael_poland | But I can not solve this problem. Only through TeamViewer someone help me, |
19:35 | pianohacker | michael_poland: Give your items a call number, and it will show up like ByWater |
19:35 | I have to leave now. I have a doctor's appointment. Bye, good luck | |
19:36 | michael_poland | Bye, |
19:37 | pianohacker Have a nice day :) | |
19:39 | http://michalx007.cba.pl/koha/BYWATER.JPG -> scereenshots from http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/ | |
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19:48 | mtompset_away | oleonard: You get 404's? |
19:48 | .us must not like .pl right now. ;( | |
19:49 | oleonard | 404s if I follow the link, an "blocked" message if I go directly to cba.pl. It's OpenDNS's filter. |
19:49 | mtompset_away | Strange the english word Reference in the midst of the other language. |
19:51 | Well, the ip address is 95.211.144.89. You could put that in your hosts, and bypass that problem, right? | |
19:51 | You can't use just the ip address, because the web server is namedhost VMs. | |
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20:15 | * magnuse | waves |
20:18 | cait | :) |
20:18 | hi magnuse | |
20:18 | wahanui | hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo? |
20:21 | magnuse | eythian around? |
20:21 | cait | bit too early for him i think |
20:21 | wizzyrea | ya not yet |
20:21 | 40ish minutes | |
20:27 | magnuse | ah, ok |
20:27 | i was just wondering if there was going to be a 3.14.02-2 package | |
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20:47 | wizzyrea | I am certain he is going to fix whatever was wrong there |
20:47 | it would be unlike him not to :) | |
20:49 | magnuse | yeah, i'm just being impatient ;-) |
20:51 | cait | good night all :) |
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20:53 | tcohen | hi wizzyrea rangi |
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20:53 | wizzyrea | hi tcohen |
20:56 | tcohen were you doing ok with the KohaCon stuff on the website? | |
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20:58 | tcohen_ | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
20:58 | huginn | tcohen_: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 23.0°C (5:00 PM ART on February 06, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
21:00 | tcohen_ | @later tell rangi i've filled 11704, you might be interested as it is code you worked on recently |
21:00 | huginn | tcohen_: The operation succeeded. |
21:05 | * magnuse | waves to tcohen |
21:05 | tcohen | hi magnuse! o/ |
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21:05 | magnuse | bug 11704 |
21:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11704 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Wrong headers in {opac|intranet}/svc/report |
21:07 | * tcohen | thinks there's nothing better for the impatient than testing easy patches |
21:07 | tcohen | (while doin time) |
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21:25 | eythian | hi |
21:25 | magnuse: I am now | |
21:26 | If you're asking why that package hasn't been updated, there are Reasons which will be revealed in a day or so :) | |
21:26 | tcohen | hi eythian |
21:26 | eythian | also, yesterday was a holiday so I was at a BBQ. |
21:26 | g'day tcohen | |
21:26 | magnuse | eythian: cool, no problem! :-) |
21:26 | tcohen | the road of excess leads to the tower of wisdom |
21:26 | magnuse | just curious! |
21:27 | eythian | no worries |
21:27 | magnuse: and I'm working on a script to automate the whole thing to avoid messing it up in the future :) | |
21:27 | magnuse | very cool! |
21:27 | eythian++ | |
21:28 | eythian | @notes eythian: |
21:28 | huginn | eythian: Sent 2 years, 41 weeks, 2 days, 6 hours, and 57 minutes ago: <cait> forget everything before and answer that question: Is there a bug for the accounting rewrite to which I can link bugs as 2696 Fine payments should show whatwas paid for, Sent 1 year, 2 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, and 6 minutes ago: <magnuse> kia ora! any news on the funding for the images from multiple sources thing? just curious... :-), Sent (3 more messages) |
21:28 | eythian | it's like a little bit of archeology |
21:29 | tcohen | what is that @notes about? |
21:29 | magnuse | ooh, i'm still curious about funding for the "images from multiple sources thing" :-) |
21:29 | eythian | it's from people sending messages to 'eythian:' rather than 'eythian' |
21:29 | magnuse: no movement on that front :( | |
21:29 | tcohen | @notes tcohen: |
21:29 | huginn | tcohen: Sent 25 weeks, 6 days, 13 hours, and 11 minutes ago: <magnuse> maybe you can have a look at my followup on bug 10622? and Sent 4 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, and 58 minutes ago: <mtompset> git rebase -i then cut and paste them into the correct order? |
21:30 | magnuse | @notes magnuse: |
21:30 | huginn | magnuse: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
21:34 | pianohacker | back |
21:34 | bag | welcome back pianohacker |
21:34 | eythian | wahanui: back is <reply>and forth. |
21:34 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
21:34 | pianohacker | back |
21:34 | eythian | I think it's too short to activate. |
21:34 | pianohacker | possibly... |
21:34 | hi eythian :) | |
21:34 | eythian | The limit must be 5 or 6 characters. |
21:34 | hiya | |
21:35 | pianohacker | back? |
21:35 | wahanui | and forth. |
21:35 | eythian | wahanui: status |
21:35 | wahanui | Since Wed Feb 5 01:40:11 2014, there have been 51 modifications and 17 questions. I have been awake for 1 day, 19 hours, 55 minutes, 23 seconds this session, and currently reference 35567 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
21:35 | pianohacker | 35k? Dear loard |
21:35 | eythian | heh |
21:36 | A lot are probably from people saying this long thing with an is in the middle. | |
21:36 | wahanui: A lot are probably from people saying this long thing with an | |
21:36 | wahanui | ...but lot is by includes and stuff its hard to spot... |
21:36 | ...but lot are by includes and stuff its hard to spot... | |
21:36 | eythian | oh, or an 'are' |
21:37 | rhcl1 | I are confused. |
21:37 | pianohacker | rhcl1: We're just muckin' with wahanui, just an average day in #koha |
21:37 | rhcl1 | ack |
21:37 | magnuse | lulz |
21:37 | eythian | rhcl1: 'are' is the plural form of 'is' :) |
21:37 | rhcl1 | ah, got it. tns |
21:37 | tnx | |
21:38 | magnuse | davidnind++ for sending the reminder about the meeting i missed |
21:38 | eythian | ah, I can now mark people's posts on bugzilla as private :) |
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22:19 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
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22:34 | tcohen | oh my |
22:35 | * tcohen | is ashamed he forgot the meeting! |
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23:31 | eythian | oof, it now takes 2.5GB of space to do a full package build, not including the space for the source itself. Time I reconfigured my build vm. |
23:31 | dcook | Ouch. |
23:32 | eythian | I updated it to debian testing, and a few things changed. I need to spend the time re-designing how parts of the packaging work, I think. |
23:33 | Primarily stop it being a debian native package, I think. | |
23:33 | dcook | What might that mean? |
23:34 | * dcook | says as a Debian neophyte |
23:34 | eythian | https://wiki.debian.org/Debian[…]on-native_package.3F <-- the two questions from there explain it better than I can |
23:34 | essentially splitting out the debian/ directory and maintaining it separately. | |
23:36 | In the new debian tools, I have to change the version numbering if it's a native package. So, dropping the -1 off the end. | |
23:36 | But I think packaging and upstream should be a little bit more separated. | |
23:37 | maybe anyway, I'm slightly on the fence. | |
23:37 | dcook | Could dropping that revision have implications for Ubuntu users then? |
23:37 | eythian | not at all |
23:37 | ot | |
23:37 | dcook | Or is it still close enough to Debian? |
23:37 | eythian | it's mostly just cosmetic. |
23:38 | dcook | If it's a non-native package, could it be easier to create something like a RPM alongside it? |
23:38 | * dcook | says again having no idea what he's really saying |
23:38 | eythian | not really, it's more a question of management. |
23:39 | dcook | Mmm, k. In that case, I'll stop asking questions until I look more into building packages myself :). Thanks for entertaining my questions anyway :) |
23:39 | eythian | It'd make it cleaner to release a new package with only package-related changes without having to change Koha. |
23:39 | dcook | Mmm, that sounds like a good thing... |
23:39 | eythian | (by separating them, I was thinking having debian/ in another branch in the same git repo, or something.) |
23:39 | dcook | I noticed the last update that I did was something around 60MB... |
23:40 | eythian | Yeah, it's usually around that size |
23:40 | * dcook | wonders from time to time about the relative size of the packages and Koha in general |
23:40 | eythian | gzipping everything is about the same size as the .deb |
23:40 | dcook | So what is that 60mb actually composed of? Mostly instructions? |
23:41 | eythian | it's a lot smaller if we use xz. |
23:41 | http://paste.koha-community.org/109 | |
23:42 | so most of it is 'misc' | |
23:42 | oh, translations | |
23:42 | wahanui | well, translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
23:44 | dcook | Misc? |
23:44 | Wouldn't it be tests, C4, and etc? | |
23:44 | and .git | |
23:44 | eythian | .git doesn't count, because it's not in the .deb. |
23:44 | dcook | Ahh, translations |
23:44 | I was wondering why the Koha I'm looking at is 3.3G | |
23:45 | Oh wait, that's not Koha, drrr | |
23:45 | 421M for that Koha.. | |
23:45 | 1.4G for the Git | |
23:45 | Which is what you posted.. | |
23:46 | * dcook | is going to stop rambling |
23:46 | eythian | :) |
23:46 | that was for 3.12.10, fwiw. 3.14.x is a bit larger. | |
23:47 | dcook | Hmm, I think the Git I'm looking at should be 3.15.x |
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