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| 01:39 | blou | hi #koha |
| 01:40 | any issue with git.koha-community.org ? | |
| 01:43 | eythian | Fetching kc |
| 01:43 | fatal: read error: Verbinding is weggevallen | |
| 01:43 | error: Could not fetch kc | |
| 01:44 | yep, it ain't working | |
| 01:45 | blou | :) |
| 01:45 | dcook | Can't access via the browser either |
| 01:46 | blou | alright, it's not just me. |
| 01:46 | thanks | |
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| 02:34 | eythian | anyone have access to delete things from bugzilla. It's getting a bit of spam: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…].cgi?id=10951#c43 |
| 02:34 | huginn | 04Bug 10951: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Passed QA , Make the NoLoginInstructions a customizable field through preferences |
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| 03:38 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 04:02 | mtompset | blou2? |
| 04:06 | * mtompset | cheers, "YAY! The needs sign off seems to have dropped a couple since I last looked." |
| 04:08 | mtompset | oh wow... must have hit a slow point. |
| 04:19 | Is the git server slow for a reason? | |
| 04:19 | eythian | it was broken earlier |
| 04:19 | it may still be | |
| 04:36 | mtompset | oh the pain... 89% compressing objects. |
| 04:36 | good thing there are only 273 objects total to deal with. | |
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| 04:54 | mtompset | Well... that was a bad move... oh well... I guess it's still broken. |
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| 05:37 | mtompset | okay... there snuck it in... hopefully it's fixed for good. |
| 06:35 | Have a great day, #koha. | |
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| 06:45 | * cait | waves good morning |
| 06:45 | * dcook | waves good afternoon |
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| 07:07 | cait | hm lots of dicsonnects this morning |
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| 07:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:36 | wahanui | hello, reiveune |
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| 08:01 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:01 | wahanui | hola, gaetan_B |
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| 08:20 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 08:20 | sophie_m | hello cait and #koha |
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| 08:28 | cait | h sophie_m :) |
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| 08:35 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 08:36 | cait: i do not completely understand your last comment on bug 11619 | |
| 08:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11619 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Duplicate key in QueryParser config |
| 08:38 | cait | marcelr: Jonathan said it shouldn't work when the queryparser is turned off - but i tested with the queryparser turned on |
| 08:38 | marcelr | cait: you tested both cases and one did work? |
| 08:39 | cait | marcelr: i tested only queryparser - i didn't expect the other to work |
| 08:39 | marcelr | o wait |
| 08:39 | have not read that well i guess | |
| 08:39 | i will retest it myself again | |
| 08:39 | cait | thank you |
| 08:39 | as I see you | |
| 08:40 | could I ask you to take a look at one of the patches maybe? | |
| 08:40 | bug 11078 | |
| 08:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Signed Off , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds |
| 08:40 | marcelr | i will have a look somewhat later.. |
| 08:40 | cait | that's ok, i just don't feel like i can get this tested myself well |
| 08:40 | < not a sysadmin | |
| 08:41 | marcelr | cait: still have to answers too on bug 11617 :) |
| 08:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11617 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Add itemnumber constraint to aqorders_items |
| 08:41 | marcelr | s/s$// |
| 08:42 | cait | marcelr: i didn't want to cause trouble, just trying to be careful before we throw out stuff :) |
| 08:42 | marcelr | that is good, but Koha already throws out some stuff in that area |
| 08:42 | like biblionumber in aqorders.. | |
| 08:43 | cait | marcelr: possibly, but with a db constraint it will be a total thing |
| 08:43 | yeah, we should keep that | |
| 08:43 | i never understood why it does delete it | |
| 08:43 | i think i even argued about that somewhere | |
| 08:43 | marcelr | i have dozens of Deleted bibliographic notice, can't find title in my test database |
| 08:44 | cait | hm? |
| 08:44 | marcelr | deleted biblios |
| 08:46 | cait | they can't be searched |
| 08:46 | but the information is there for reporting... and if we are careful we could implement back the undo functionaltiy one day | |
| 08:46 | rangi said it used to be possible, but got killed when other features were added | |
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| 08:50 | marcelr | cait: i would like to see the title for a deleted biblio in aqorders |
| 08:51 | and in a larger perspective: maybe we should not have deletedbiblio and deleteditems but have a status in biblio and items | |
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| 08:51 | cait | marcelr: i think this was for performance mostly |
| 08:52 | marcelr: not having the old things in those tables... and also it would require a lot of code changes | |
| 08:52 | not sure that is worth it | |
| 08:52 | marcelr | i understand but it is a compromise |
| 08:52 | cait | marcelr: and agreed on the title, - i never undestood why it was not implemented that way |
| 08:56 | marcelr: i think probably a misunderstanding | |
| 08:56 | marcelr | ? |
| 08:56 | cait | why cancelled holds show no title |
| 08:56 | i mean we have the title in aqorders... and in deletedbiblio | |
| 08:57 | there is really no reason not to show a title for cancelled ordres | |
| 08:58 | marcelr | yeah we could look it up, but do you really want code poking in the deleted-tables? |
| 09:00 | cait: about bug 11619: in only changed the commit message (not Jonathan) | |
| 09:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11619 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Duplicate key in QueryParser config |
| 09:04 | cait | ah sorry, quite busy here |
| 09:04 | misread | |
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| 09:07 | * Oak | waves |
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| 11:52 | paxed | i see a list of map projections in the marc21 006 and 008 builders XML files, but the position for those is just a normal input box |
| 11:52 | is there supposed to be a selection list for the projections? | |
| 11:59 | cait | @later tell dcook found a Koha mention about an IFLA presentation from e. balnaves in a German library journal :) |
| 11:59 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:00 | cait | paxed: if there are mulitple positions there is no better help yet |
| 12:01 | paxed | has that been reported as a bug yes, do you remember off the top of your head? |
| 12:01 | yet* | |
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| 12:06 | SitHa | hi there |
| 12:06 | wahanui | hola, SitHa |
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| 12:06 | |Lupin| | wrong nick... |
| 12:07 | good day wahanui | |
| 12:07 | I was wondering, how is the chan logged and how are the logs made available on the web? | |
| 12:09 | cait1 | hi |Lupin| :) |
| 12:10 | how are you doing? | |
| 12:13 | |Lupin| | hey cait1 :) |
| 12:13 | doing well, thanks. | |
| 12:13 | how about you? | |
| 12:13 | cait1 | busy, but well |
| 12:14 | are you on vacation? | |
| 12:15 | |Lupin| | cait1: busy too :) |
| 12:15 | cait1: no, at work but wanting to set up an IRC chan lpgger making the conversations availableon the web. So I thought #koha hasit and was wondering howit has been setup | |
| 12:16 | cait1 | logs? |
| 12:16 | wahanui | rumour has it logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
| 12:17 | |Lupin| | wahanui: but which bot is used? Do you know? |
| 12:17 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, |lupin| |
| 12:17 | |Lupin| | wahanui: ok, np |
| 12:17 | wahanui | |Lupin|: what? |
| 12:18 | cait1 | hm trying to read the source - ilbot? |
| 12:18 | wahanui is a bot :) | |
| 12:18 | <title>ilbot - Irc log bot in Perl</title> | |
| 12:18 | |Lupin| | cait1: aaaaha! thanks! |
| 12:18 | cait1 | http://moritz.faui2k3.org/en/ilbot |
| 12:18 | |Lupin| | cait1: and it is also that software thatmakes them available on the web? |
| 12:18 | wahanui | okay, |Lupin|. |
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| 12:44 | francharb | good morning |
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| 13:23 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 13:27 | on a marc21 setup, the link to authorities or biblio identifiers is always in the $0 subfield ? | |
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| 14:05 | druthb | o/ |
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| 14:14 | tcohen | gmcharlt: around? |
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| 14:18 | banana | It's Morning, #koha ! |
| 14:20 | The early bird gets the worm! | |
| 14:20 | I offer free to good home this morning... | |
| 14:21 | two HP 49 inkjet cartridges, one hp #20 cartridge, and one HP #21 and #22 combo pack. Free pickup or pay actual shipping only | |
| 14:25 | da**** sorry, wrong chat window | |
| 14:25 | apologies | |
| 14:26 | is there a "takeback" feature in chat? | |
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| 14:32 | banana | Morning Oak |
| 14:34 | Oak | hello rhcl |
| 14:34 | :) | |
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| 14:37 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 14:37 | @wunder 45701 | |
| 14:37 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Windy Ridge, Athens, Ohio is -3.4°C (9:37 AM EST on February 03, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 10 am EST this morning... |
| 14:37 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 14:37 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 4.4°C (8:37 AM CST on February 03, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:39 | rhcl | @wunder 64507 |
| 14:39 | huginn | rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -12.9°C (8:39 AM CST on February 03, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 6 am Tuesday to 9 am CST Wednesday... |
| 14:43 | oleonard | gmcharlt around? |
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| 14:48 | oleonard | @later tell gmcharlt No, css/opac-old.css and css/sco-old.css should never have been committed and I should be publicly shamed for it |
| 14:48 | huginn | oleonard: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:05 | ebegin | We are having spam on bugzilla !?! see bug 10951, comment #43 |
| 15:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10951 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Passed QA , Make the NoLoginInstructions a customizable field through preferences |
| 15:07 | cait | ebegin: it looks like it |
| 15:07 | maybe rangi can delete it when he is back from his conf | |
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| 15:10 | rhcl | something inserted that link into the comment? |
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| 15:12 | ebegin | yes, spam is all over the web |
| 15:12 | cait | i think maybe even human spam |
| 15:13 | must create an account first | |
| 15:15 | paul_p | magnus_away = cheese lunch planned for wednesday ;-) |
| 15:16 | cait | what other things? |
| 15:16 | wahanui | other things are not available at all |
| 15:16 | cait | i mean't what's for the other days? |
| 15:17 | rhcl | I like cheese and ham. What time and where? |
| 15:17 | paul_p | cait = monday lebanon, tuesday italian, thursd pizza & friday french buffet |
| 15:17 | rhcl = march 12th, hackfest, Marseille, France | |
| 15:18 | oleonard | I really thought I could make it happen this year, but no :( |
| 15:18 | cait | yum lebanese! |
| 15:21 | paul_p: sounds excellent, only friday might be difficult with lots of people .) | |
| 15:22 | paul_p | cait friday difficult ? Why ? |
| 15:22 | cait | ah, french cheese buffet :) |
| 15:22 | i was thinking of the restaurant at the beach | |
| 15:23 | paul_p | cait = it was a chinese one ;-) |
| 15:23 | cait and I discarded it because, you're right, we're too many and won't have enough cars | |
| 15:23 | cait | it was yummy, but the logistical part is too hard, i can understand that |
| 15:24 | :) | |
| 15:24 | paul_p | cait the french cheese will be on wed, the friday one will be french various food (from "la table de cana", like last year) |
| 15:24 | cait | I am looking forward to it :) |
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| 15:30 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 15:31 | druthb | hi, mtompset. :) |
| 15:31 | mtompset | Greetingd, druthb. |
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| 15:46 | oleonard | So SIP authentication works only with card number and not username? |
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| 15:52 | oleonard | No SIP authentication with username means patron self-registration is problematic |
| 15:53 | mtompset | FOOOOOD! Me need food now. :) |
| 15:56 | rhcl | I think the French diet would quite agree with me. |
| 15:56 | pizza....lebanese... | |
| 15:56 | italian... | |
| 16:01 | * cait | sends oleonard cookies, lots of cookies |
| 16:02 | cait | oleonard: hm why? |
| 16:02 | oleonard | why problematic? |
| 16:02 | cait | oleonard: the problem with sip authentication is that it does not use the central module... but instead compares passwords with the database and ew. |
| 16:02 | yeah | |
| 16:03 | oleonard | We would like to offer online registration for "digital only" patrons who don't come into the library. If online registration only creates a username for them they can't instantly log into SIP-authenticated online services. |
| 16:03 | cait | oh hm |
| 16:03 | it can#t create a password? | |
| 16:04 | ah | |
| 16:04 | oleonard | It creates username and password, but SIP wants a card number. |
| 16:04 | cait | sorry misreaad... bad day |
| 16:04 | you shoudl get sip auth fixed ;) | |
| 16:04 | bug 9936 | |
| 16:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9936 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , SIP2 should use C4/Auth.pm for user authentication |
| 16:04 | cait | i have already filed the bug... we only need a patch |
| 16:05 | and an additional plus would be that authentication with ldap would work on the self check... (because you have no passwords in the db then) | |
| 16:07 | mtompset | Who do I request a modification to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]veloper_handbook? |
| 16:07 | There is some secretive {{DevBook}} macro-y thing that I can't add the QA Test Tools page into. | |
| 16:07 | oleonard | Why do you need to make a request? |
| 16:07 | Oh | |
| 16:08 | cait | mtompset: have you checked pages that have the box? |
| 16:08 | mtompset: magnuse could do it but he is on vacatin | |
| 16:08 | vacation even | |
| 16:08 | mtompset | What do you mean? |
| 16:09 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "secretive macro-y thing" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/105 |
| 16:09 | mtompset | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eveloper_handbook |
| 16:09 | oleonard | Looking at Bug 11664 makes me wonder if I'm not finding the option to *view* a patron list as opposed to add or edit |
| 16:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11664 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , No way to select all/unselect all on patron list |
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| 16:46 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 16:47 | cait | oleonard: i think i had edit |
| 16:48 | oleonard: but i think the interface s a bit confusing :( | |
| 16:48 | oleonard: or add? I was testing your bugfix and added patrons and then noticed i couldn't remove them | |
| 16:48 | well all of them | |
| 16:49 | oleonard | Yes I think that page can be made clearer by making it conform better to existing patterns. |
| 16:50 | I'm thinking of separating the add and delete actions for instance. Right now clicking "update" will both add and delete patrons. I think having a separate "update" button at the top implies that it will not delete. | |
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| 16:51 | cait | oleonard: I was thinking about that too yesterday - soudns good! |
| 16:54 | * Dyrcona | pulls up in a black-flagged ship. |
| 16:55 | Dyrcona | Oh wait. Never mind. There's a more appropriate channel to commandeer. |
| 16:57 | mtompset | I just realized that koha spelt backwards is ah ok. :) |
| 16:59 | cait | Dyrcona: you just made me realize it's really time to go home :) |
| 17:00 | Dyrcona | Yarr! |
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| 17:09 | rhcl | mtompset: that's actually quite an insight |
| 17:11 | oleonard | Koha is the opposite of disappointed resignation. |
| 17:13 | gmcharlt | @quote add Koha is the opposite of disappointed resignation. |
| 17:13 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #294 added. |
| 17:13 | gmcharlt | @quote remove 294 |
| 17:13 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:13 | gmcharlt | @quote add <mtompset> I just realized that koha spelt backwards is ah ok. :) |
| 17:13 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #295 added. |
| 17:13 | gmcharlt | @quote add <oleonard> Koha is the opposite of disappointed resignation. |
| 17:13 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #296 added. |
| 17:20 | oleonard | Got a question about diacritics: I have a patron category which has characters with diacritics. On some pages the diacritics are shown correctly, on others they show up as ? |
| 17:21 | What's different about the two pages? | |
| 17:30 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:32 | mtompset | What pages are you talking about oleonard? |
| 17:32 | oleonard | For instance: Looks fine on patron search results page (members/member.pl) Doesn't look fine on patron list page (patron_lists/list.pl) |
| 17:34 | mtompset | And you mean the patron category name, right? |
| 17:34 | oleonard | Yes |
| 17:39 | mtompset | where is the patron list page? |
| 17:39 | Nevermind... tools. | |
| 17:40 | EEEEW! | |
| 17:44 | perhaps the schema is not utf-8 friendly? | |
| 17:48 | hMMM... double encoding? | |
| 17:52 | tcohen | mtompset: context? |
| 17:52 | wahanui | context is everything? |
| 17:53 | mtompset | I was looking at what oleonard was mentioning. |
| 17:53 | Those lovely question mark diamonds appear in the patron_lists/list.pl | |
| 17:53 | the data is correct in the DB. | |
| 17:54 | it displays properly elsewhere. | |
| 17:54 | tcohen | on master? |
| 17:54 | mtompset | But this patron list uses the new schema stuff. |
| 17:54 | yes. | |
| 17:57 | tcohen | if you're logged as kohaadmin it breaks |
| 17:59 | oleonard | tcohen: ? |
| 17:59 | tcohen | i was logged as kohaadmin and trying to create a new patron list broke Koha |
| 18:00 | oleonard | "This is a bad idea, and you are likely to encounter problems." :P |
| 18:00 | tcohen | agreed, but Koha should never break |
| 18:01 | http://snag.gy/av349.jpg | |
| 18:02 | how do I break encoding? | |
| 18:02 | oleonard | Change the description of your patron category |
| 18:02 | wahanui | oleonard: that doesn't look right |
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| 18:02 | oleonard | Sorry wahanui |
| 18:05 | tcohen | i'm sorry, i cannot reproduce |
| 18:06 | http://snag.gy/hTv5G.jpg | |
| 18:07 | mtompset | Patroñ with OPAC Füße |
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| 18:07 | mtompset | Really? |
| 18:10 | http://snag.gy/AQKXr.jpg | |
| 18:11 | I can reproduce it. | |
| 18:11 | oleonard | That's what I see too mtompset |
| 18:12 | mtompset | tcohen... could you paste your patron description here? |
| 18:13 | tcohen | Staff حموحموحموññññ |
| 18:13 | oleonard | Although I also have problems with the display of the patron name if it has special characters and obviously tcohen doesn't |
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| 18:15 | mtompset | http://snag.gy/KzFrQ.jpg |
| 18:16 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 18:16 | mtompset | So, what difference is there between tcohen's setup and ours? :) |
| 18:17 | cait | ? |
| 18:19 | mtompset | tcohen: What is the output of "show variables like '%coll%';" on your mysql server? |
| 18:20 | and %char% too. :) | |
| 18:21 | tcohen | utf8_general_ci and utf8 respectively |
| 18:22 | mtompset | nothing says latin1 or something like it? |
| 18:22 | tcohen | nope |
| 18:22 | mtompset | oleonard: What about you? |
| 18:22 | tcohen | its a fresh install loading the default schema and sample data |
| 18:26 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 18:27 | mtompset | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rball#Tweaking_my.cnf |
| 18:27 | I put those tweaks into mysql server and now... it displays the data correctly, but the name has gone bad. | |
| 18:28 | http://snag.gy/Vluwj.jpg | |
| 18:28 | Let's change the name... | |
| 18:29 | and fixes. | |
| 18:30 | Hope that helps, oleonard. | |
| 18:35 | This does make me wonder: should we need to tweak the mysql configuration file like that? What about packages? | |
| 18:55 | oleonard | Thanks mtompset that does fix it for me. |
| 18:55 | mtompset++ | |
| 18:55 | ...although I still wonder why it looked okay on one page and not the other. | |
| 18:56 | mtompset | I suspect the handshaking of schema vs. handshaking of dbi is different. |
| 18:56 | and basically you told the sql server to always hand back utf8, regardless of what the client says. | |
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| 19:12 | JWellner | Hi Rocio |
| 19:33 | cait | oleonard++ again... he must be a mind reader :) |
| 19:34 | oleonard | ? |
| 19:34 | cait | removing the sort on the columns |
| 19:34 | readming my bug mail right now :) | |
| 19:35 | oleonard | Oh shoot I submitted the patch for Bug 11671 without checking how it conflicted with Bug 11636 |
| 19:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11671 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Restructure patron lists add form for improved usability |
| 19:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11636 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Impossible to remove patrons from patron list during add process | |
| 19:36 | oleonard | badly. |
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| 19:37 | * oleonard | will resubmit and make it dependent |
| 20:25 | rhcl | is rangi back at work yet? |
| 20:28 | cait | rhcl: he is at vala - conference in australia |
| 20:39 | rhcl | oh |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | he may be around some, but probably very busy |
| 20:59 | rhcl | not important at all |
| 21:17 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 21:23 | eythian | hi |
| 21:23 | wahanui | hey, eythian |
| 21:28 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 21:28 | eythian | howdy cait |
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| 21:33 | wizzyrea | @later tell tcohen at your leisure, lmk what you need for the site |
| 21:33 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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| 22:18 | bag | hello |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea | sup bag |
| 22:22 | bag | heya :) glad someone didn't leave me hanging - high five wizzyrea |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea | o/* HIGHFIVE *\o |
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| 22:49 | ibeardslee | http://channelnine.9msn.com.au[…]/hi5/navlink2.jpg |
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| 22:57 | rhcl | I deleted about 200 Hi5 messages yesterday from an old, little-used yahoo account |
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