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| 00:28 | jcamins | rangi: my rule of thumb is that if I remove the punctuation and add spaces, I can just use Perl code as Python. |
| 00:31 | rangi | heh |
| 00:31 | yeah | |
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| 02:09 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 04:01 | * Oak | waves |
| 04:10 | dcook | Sometimes, I wonder what will happen when we move away from Template::Toolkit and we have to redo some of our magic in other ways... |
| 04:10 | I suppose that sort of thing is inevitable and you just have to see what happens when it happens | |
| 04:10 | Progress and all that | |
| 04:12 | eythian | T::T is fairly well established |
| 04:12 | Shouldn't go anywhere in a hurry | |
| 04:12 | dcook | Ah, it looks like it's still updating too? |
| 04:13 | I saw a copyright statement to 2007, but now I see one for 2012 | |
| 04:13 | eythian | I haven't looked, but I expect so. |
| 04:17 | jcamins | Why would you link to a set of obsolete installation instructions when there are perfectly good instructions on the wiki? |
| 04:18 | On second thought, I withdraw the question. | |
| 04:18 | Good night. | |
| 04:18 | wahanui | It'll all be over soon... |
| 04:26 | dcook | lol |
| 04:26 | night, jcamins | |
| 04:41 | mtompset | The pdf link? Because it had a commentary about hardware. |
| 04:41 | Hardware requirements for Koha haven | |
| 04:41 | t really changed. | |
| 04:44 | good night, jcamins. | |
| 04:44 | Greetings, Oak eythian dcook. | |
| 04:46 | Oak | hello mtompset :) |
| 04:48 | mtompset | How should cataloguer/cataloger and canceled/cancelled be spelt/spelled? |
| 04:54 | is en supposed to be American spelling, British spelling, or some other spelling for English? | |
| 05:57 | BobB | hi mtompset, afaik en generally provides US spelling; |
| 05:57 | we use the en-nz translation for British/Australian spelling | |
| 05:58 | and its definitely 'cataloguer' for us | |
| 05:58 | and issues and returns and reserves :) | |
| 06:00 | mtompset | So, BobB, do you think the changes related to cataloguer and canceled in bug 11503 are okay? |
| 06:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11503 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Several typos |
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| 06:01 | BobB | will take a peep |
| 06:01 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 06:02 | dcook | morning cait |
| 06:02 | * dcook | is so tempted to keep working on a TT plugin, but most head to the cinema |
| 06:02 | dcook | Book Thief time! |
| 06:02 | night all | |
| 06:02 | wahanui | goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
| 06:02 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. |
| 06:04 | cait | :) |
| 06:23 | BobB | mtompset, cataloger would be consistent, cataloguer would be used in the en-NZ or en-UK translations |
| 06:23 | Usage of cancelled/canceled is less clear. It seems canceled is US usage only - the rest of the world uses cancelled | |
| 06:24 | mtompset | I think canceled may be regional, not national. |
| 06:24 | BobB | however usage in the US seems to vary: I saw canceled in NY Times and Seattle newspaper but cancelled on the Avis website |
| 06:24 | I guess not all .com websites are published from the US. | |
| 06:25 | paxed | is there a setting to disable the search word hilighting in staff ui? |
| 06:25 | BobB | certainly cancelled is more widespread |
| 06:25 | paxed, yes | |
| 06:25 | its a sys pref | |
| 06:26 | paxed | for opac. not staff. |
| 06:26 | BobB | so I'll update the bug, mtompset |
| 06:26 | mtompset | I signed it off. |
| 06:27 | Thanks for the feedback. | |
| 06:27 | paxed | BobB: if you mean OpacHighlightedWords, that doesn't seem to apply for the staff ui. |
| 06:28 | BobB | ah, might have been what was in my mind, sorry I don't have time to check that now |
| 06:49 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
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| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:40 | cait | bbl |
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| 07:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:10 | nlegrand | Hey #koha |
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| 08:12 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:16 | nlegrand | hey gaetan_B |
| 08:16 | wahanui | gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons |
| 08:16 | gaetan_B | :) |
| 08:18 | cait | hi gaetan_B :) |
| 08:18 | happy new year :) | |
| 08:19 | bit late, but it still counts i hope? | |
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| 08:30 | gaetan_B | yep still counts of course cait, happy new year to you :) |
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| 08:38 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 08:39 | cait | hi marcelr - happy new year |
| 08:40 | marcelr | :) |
| 08:59 | nlegrand | cait: I've always thought it counts till the 31st :) |
| 09:08 | cait | :) |
| 09:18 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
| 09:19 | v3.10.13 should not have been released ? I can't find it | |
| 09:20 | cait | i think we are only up to 12 yet |
| 09:20 | judging form the website | |
| 09:21 | http://koha-community.org/category/release/3-10/ | |
| 09:22 | sophie_m | that's what I see also cait, no release in decembre... |
| 09:28 | cait | maybe the holidays |
| 09:29 | are you waiting for a specific patch? | |
| 09:31 | sophie_m | cait, we are upgrading our customer every 3 monthes, so each time we jump for 3 releases. This time it will only be 2 |
| 09:43 | cait | ah I see |
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| 10:31 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 10:31 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.3°C (11:30 AM CET on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:13 | tcohen | morning #koha |
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| 12:29 | Joubu | hi |
| 12:31 | cait | hi Joubu |
| 12:31 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
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| 13:13 | kivilahtio | wow I am looking into the item.totalissues and updating biblioitem.totalissues. Is it really true that you must update the whole bibliographic record to Zebra. One cannot just update one MARC-field to the zebra indexes? |
| 13:14 | cait | i think zebra will reindex the whole record |
| 13:20 | kivilahtio: you saw that you can calculate those with a cronjob? | |
| 13:20 | if you are worried about performance | |
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| 13:20 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 13:20 | oleonard | Hi |
| 13:23 | kivilahtio | cait: yes I noticed. But then I realized that Solr is there as well! |
| 13:23 | oleonard: hi to you too! | |
| 13:23 | Uncertain about the current status of Solr integration | |
| 13:24 | BibLibre test servers are inaccessible atm :( | |
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| 13:41 | tcohen | gmcharlt: is jenkins loading a fresh DB for each Koha_3.12.x run? |
| 13:45 | cait | kivilahtio: solr is not ripe for production |
| 13:45 | it won't support everything zebra does i think and is still experimental | |
| 13:45 | kivilahtio | cait: thank you |
| 13:45 | tcohen | hi kivilahtio |
| 13:45 | kivilahtio | cait: Also I think we could do with update_totalissues.pl |
| 13:45 | hi tcohen! How do you do? | |
| 13:45 | cait: It looks like a good solution | |
| 13:45 | tcohen | great kivilahtio |
| 13:46 | kivilahtio | good to hear that :) |
| 13:46 | I am eating salmiakki, very good | |
| 13:46 | tcohen | how r u doing? |
| 13:46 | oh (googling) | |
| 13:46 | never heard of that! | |
| 13:46 | kivilahtio | we are going to Mikkelin tomorrow, to talk with them about some data migration issues and about forming a Koha consortium of sorts |
| 13:46 | If I ever come to a KohaCon I'll bring some | |
| 13:47 | tcohen | jenk? |
| 13:47 | :D | |
| 13:47 | kivilahtio | jenk? |
| 13:47 | cait | kivilahtio: you shoud totally go to kohacon in argentina .) |
| 13:47 | tcohen | trying autocomplete for jenkins |
| 13:47 | need to trigger the 3.12.x build | |
| 13:48 | kivilahtio | cait: sounds cool, maybe I will :) |
| 13:51 | wow HELsinki -> CORdoba -> HELsinki 1440€ ! | |
| 13:52 | ~30h travel time | |
| 13:56 | cait | wow |
| 13:56 | almost as long as to nz | |
| 13:56 | kivilahtio | that's a lot |
| 13:56 | maybe there will be a bargain flight out there somewhere :) | |
| 14:05 | tcohen | jcamins around? |
| 14:07 | @later tell jcamins I'd like to ask u about 10688 and 3.12.x | |
| 14:07 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:15 | kivilahtio | do you ever clean the statistics table in production? |
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| 14:17 | kivilahtio | just curious what will happend after 5 years :) |
| 14:20 | jcamins | kivilahtio: it will be very full. |
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| 14:24 | kivilahtio | hmm, It could be moved to it's own statistics and reports server? |
| 14:25 | jcamins | kivilahtio: you mean using replication and the black hole storage engine? Sure, you could do that. |
| 14:25 | I'm not sure how necessary it is, though. | |
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| 14:28 | kivilahtio | jcamins: probably not. I guess one needs to worry about that when the DB starts to get full :) |
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| 14:46 | kivilahtio | update_statistics doesn't take into account deleted items? |
| 14:48 | cait | hm not sure, never used that |
| 14:48 | kivilahtio | cait: well I guess this must be used to enable relevancy ranking with zebra searches? |
| 14:49 | cait | kivilahtio: we keep it so far |
| 14:49 | the information in statistics | |
| 14:49 | it's ued for the item and record history... you will need that if you want to decide what to weed | |
| 14:50 | kivilahtio | but if a item is deleted it is moved to deleted_items-table. The SQL in update_totalissues.pl doesnt touch deleted_items, but only replaces hte existing totalissuess-count with the count of available items |
| 14:50 | cait | hm i think if you assume it is deleted it was not checked out on the same day |
| 14:50 | i mean it's unlikely to happen | |
| 14:50 | say you run the report every night | |
| 14:51 | it would have to be checked out and deleted on the same day | |
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| 14:54 | kivilahtio | cait: my issues is that if a item is issues 50 times, and then moved to the deleted_items-table, after running this script te biblioitems.totalissues drops by 50 |
| 14:54 | regardless of your method of using the script | |
| 14:55 | hmm, looks like a new bugentry | |
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| 15:00 | cait | ah |
| 15:00 | so the totalissues is supposed to be all items? | |
| 15:00 | not sure if it's a bug or not | |
| 15:00 | might be a 123 | |
| 15:01 | kivilahtio | cait: I suppose totalissues is the number of times that book has been issued during its lifecycle |
| 15:02 | cait: it should never d3ecreas | |
| 15:02 | cait | hm |
| 15:02 | i know some libraries only look at the numbers in the last x years | |
| 15:03 | so if something is very old, tht totals are not so interesting, but the recent use | |
| 15:03 | kivilahtio | cait: so you need statistics for that, but I think this functionality still works in an unintended fashion |
| 15:04 | cait: but if you run this script incrementally from statistics I think it works ok | |
| 15:05 | so this answers my core issues of migrating total issues :) | |
| 15:05 | but if you recalculate your total issues, you might get wrong numbers | |
| 15:06 | I think i'll report a minor bug for this | |
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| 15:08 | cait | we have mostly academics... they haven't asked for that so far :) |
| 15:12 | fixing the popularity serach is still on my todo | |
| 15:13 | it didn't work at all in the versions we started with, bug jcamins++ fixed it | |
| 15:19 | kivilahtio | jcamins++ :) |
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| 15:30 | kivilahtio | why is there a statistical type of return? Why would one want to take reports of that? |
| 15:36 | oleonard | To help understand how busy your are? |
| 15:36 | Librarians love reports | |
| 15:40 | gmcharlt | tcohen: it didn't use to, but let me check quickly |
| 15:40 | tcohen | gmcharlt: i've just updated the current DB |
| 15:40 | because Serials.t needs a subscription on the DB | |
| 15:40 | (that's fixed in master...) | |
| 15:41 | gmcharlt | tcohen: it doesn't reload the DB automatically |
| 15:41 | tcohen | ok |
| 15:41 | gmcharlt | where is the dump? and shall I cancel the current build, reload the DB, and start it again? |
| 15:42 | tcohen | not at all |
| 15:42 | i've put a while ago dumps for 3.12 and 3.14 in /home/jenkins | |
| 15:42 | which could be used to reload the DB if needed | |
| 15:43 | i've updated the 3.12 one to have the subscription and success the tests | |
| 15:43 | gmcharlt | ah |
| 15:43 | to clarify, did you update the runnign DB? | |
| 15:43 | tcohen | yes |
| 15:45 | gmcharlt | OK |
| 15:48 | tcohen | hopefully we'll have jenkins saying 3.12 is stable now :-( |
| 15:48 | i know is just a label and a color in jenkins, but it annoys me :-P | |
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| 15:50 | gmcharlt | tcohen++ # aiming for stability |
| 15:50 | kivilahtio | oleonard: touché? |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | kivilahtio: a more serious answer -- keeping track of usage of items within the library |
| 15:51 | kivilahtio | gmcharlt: thank you |
| 15:52 | oleonard | My answer was serious :P |
| 15:52 | gmcharlt | oleonard: I don't deny it, but I think mine was more serious^Wboring ;) |
| 15:53 | kivilahtio | well now it makes sense. You could deduct the "loose" items by subtracting from checkouts the checkins. But dont we have a reporting module for that? |
| 15:53 | statistics vs reporting :) | |
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| 15:54 | jcamins | kivilahtio: one can't get a report on statistics that aren't collected. No matter what your director may request. |
| 15:55 | kivilahtio | jcamins: thanks, I think I will print that and glue to our wall |
| 15:55 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:56 | gmcharlt | buug 642454 (ENH) Time-travel statistical collection module |
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| 15:58 | * mtompset | smirks. |
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| 16:04 | mtompset | Greetings. |
| 16:05 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 16:05 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. |
| 16:05 | Okay... I've got an interesting problem. | |
| 16:06 | I'm going to email the dev mailing list about it. | |
| 16:06 | tcohen | shoot |
| 16:06 | mtompset | But the short version: opac-MARCdetail grabs the hidden tag, opac-detail does not. |
| 16:07 | How to make opac-detail pay attention to the hidden MARC tag data, so things can be hidden the same way on opac-detail./ | |
| 16:23 | kivilahtio | permissions use binary flags :D lol that |
| 16:23 | erm... a binary flag | |
| 16:24 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:24 | tcohen | permissions handling in Koha is really close to black magic |
| 16:25 | has anyone experienced this? enable "Try" QueryParser => 0 results (authorities); "Don't try" QueryParser => #results != 0 | |
| 16:26 | jcamins | tcohen: I've got that old black magic under my skin. That old black magic letting me log in? |
| 16:26 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I am used to working with binary flag-arrays thanks to our legacy system. In Koha I can properly reverse engineer those flags, but with our legacy system we are not allowed to make any writes to the DB, thus the only way to make sense of a record with columns status1 and status2, both arrays of binary flags, is to cross reference our data |
| 16:27 | it sucks so bad, but is in a strange kind of fashion interesting | |
| 16:27 | * tcohen | likes black magic |
| 16:27 | tcohen | :-P |
| 16:28 | kivilahtio | but I have to say naming borrower.flags "flags" is obfuscation at its best |
| 16:28 | tcohen | heh |
| 16:31 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
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| 16:50 | mtompset | no, these are hidden in marc_subfield_structure. :) |
| 16:51 | tcohen: Yes, I believe I have experienced that. | |
| 16:58 | oh... authorities... no. | |
| 16:58 | Haven't searched for authorities. | |
| 16:58 | Joubu | bye |
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| 17:02 | druthb | jcamins++ #'cuz he's brilliant, mmk? |
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| 17:40 | * cait | waves |
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| 18:39 | * magnuse | waves |
| 18:41 | druthb | magnuse! |
| 18:41 | wahanui | magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 18:41 | cait | :) |
| 18:42 | magnuse | did anyone plug "migrate ALL THE THINGS!" yet? |
| 18:42 | druthb! cait! | |
| 18:43 | * druthb | hides. |
| 18:43 | cait | i think druthb got close |
| 18:43 | but then she stopped | |
| 18:43 | * druthb | runs away! |
| 18:43 | magnuse | migrate ALL THE THINGS! is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srdEXEwdupY |
| 18:43 | druthb | not my best preso ever. I'm kinda agitated that it got published. |
| 18:43 | magnuse | oops? |
| 18:44 | druthb | *Shrug* |
| 18:44 | magnuse | i heard the first 5 minutes - sounded promising to me :-) |
| 18:44 | i'll liste to the rest later, for sure | |
| 18:44 | druthb | puh. |
| 18:44 | Just talked about my process, told some tales about migrations I've done. | |
| 18:46 | showed off the code that you already know about. *shrug* | |
| 18:46 | * cait | pokes druthb with the pointy stick |
| 18:47 | cait | stop doing that |
| 18:47 | magnuse | sounds good to me :-) |
| 18:47 | (the talk, not the poking) | |
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| 18:52 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 18:53 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 7.9°C (1:50 PM EST on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
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| 18:55 | marjorieccsr | Hi, in course reserves, when i click on remove instructor (in edit course) nothing happen. Someone has already tested it? |
| 18:58 | cait | marjorieccsr: hm have you checked bugzilla? |
| 18:58 | magnuse | @wunder osl |
| 18:58 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is -11.0°C (7:50 PM CET on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:58 | magnuse | was -19 this morning |
| 18:59 | marjorieccsr | cait: yes, i found nothing on this bug |
| 19:03 | cait | hm there is one about deleting courses |
| 19:03 | but that might not be it | |
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| 19:16 | marjorieccsr | cait: thanks, i will open a ticket on bz. |
| 19:16 | cait | sorry for not being more helpful |
| 19:16 | kivilahtio | so many bugs in my migration toolkit... baaaaaaaahhh |
| 19:16 | I think I heard migrate ALL THE THINGS as well | |
| 19:17 | it left a blunt expression in my face :) | |
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| 19:22 | kivilahtio | the good thing with trance music is... that you eventually fall into trance :) |
| 19:22 | if you can endure it first | |
| 19:22 | * cait | feels more like falling asleep |
| 19:38 | * maximep | is listening to Gaia - Tuvan =) |
| 19:50 | mtompset | concat(str1,...,strN) is MySQL specific. What's not a MySQLism? ||? SQL Server doesn't support it. |
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| 19:51 | cait | hm maybe || |
| 19:53 | not sure it works withmysql | |
| 19:54 | mtompset | it supposedly can be made to work. |
| 19:54 | I'm experimenting now. | |
| 19:58 | ah! | |
| 19:59 | set sql_mode='ansi'; | |
| 19:59 | cait | hm |
| 20:00 | what are you working on? | |
| 20:01 | mtompset | trying to collect the "hidden" values for a field to pass to the template, so that i can tweak opac-detail to hide things properly. |
| 20:01 | cait | i am just wondering |
| 20:01 | mtompset | the problem is 541$e and 952%i |
| 20:01 | cait | maybe use dbix? |
| 20:01 | mtompset | the problem is 541$e and 952$i |
| 20:01 | cait | instead of writing sql |
| 20:02 | mtompset | cait: That's a learning curve I don't have time to figure out. |
| 20:02 | the patch needs to be done last month. :) | |
| 20:02 | Shoot... bus! | |
| 20:02 | * mtompset | head off to pick up son. |
| 20:02 | mtompset | ^head^heads^ |
| 20:07 | rambutan | methinks druthb would make a great Marc instructor. Who would have guessed that TLH would be a valid Marc language code? Who? |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | http://thetvmouse.files.wordpr[…]ows.gif%3Fw%3D558 |
| 20:10 | druthb | Room full of people who are *waaay* geekier than Koha folk. Needed something uber-nerdy for 'em. |
| 20:13 | cait | geekier than us? |
| 20:17 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 20:17 | * cait | feels slightly insulted |
| 20:25 | mtompset | Here here, cait! druthb that was ruuuuude. :P |
| 20:26 | druthb | :P |
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| 20:27 | druthb | Not at all. Koha people can at least socialize without massive quantities of beer in them. |
| 20:27 | Not so these uber-geeks. | |
| 20:27 | cait | 21/8 |
| 20:27 | hmpf. | |
| 20:27 | passed/failed | |
| 20:28 | oleonard | Has anyone verified whether we can socialize *with* massive quantities of beer in us? |
| 20:28 | * cait | has seen oleonard drinking beer and found him being able to socialize |
| 20:28 | druthb | :P |
| 20:29 | cait | well but maybe not massive quantities:) |
| 20:29 | oleonard | No, not nearly. |
| 20:30 | cait | lots of glasses! |
| 20:30 | ... small ones | |
| 20:31 | mtompset | Got to run. wife to pick up, evening meeting. rush rush rush. |
| 20:31 | Have a great day, #koha. | |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | is there still a limit on the number of items that Koha can have on a biblio? |
| 20:32 | cait | hm i think if you use -x for indexing probably not |
| 20:32 | or much higher than it used to be | |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | -x is default now yea? |
| 20:32 | druthb | yah, if you're using -x, there's not one that I ever hit. |
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| 20:34 | * oleonard | smells serials |
| 20:36 | rambutan | what do serials smell like? |
| 20:36 | smelt? | |
| 20:36 | oleonard | Like too many items |
| 20:36 | cait | like too many name changes, splitting ups an all that |
| 20:37 | druthb | cait++ |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | yep, this was in fact a question about a record that was a serial. |
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| 20:51 | rangi | heh i think i just blew up the koha server |
| 20:51 | cait | oh? |
| 20:51 | which one? | |
| 20:51 | wahanui | somebody said which one was that? The fixed navbar? |
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| 20:52 | * magnuse | heard a faint boom in the distance |
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| 20:52 | wizzyrea | ! |
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| 20:53 | rangi | here come all the academy students |
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| 20:53 | * wizzyrea | gets ready |
| 20:54 | * cait | gets nervous |
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| 20:54 | wizzyrea | oh I am guessing git |
| 20:54 | rangi | yeah |
| 20:54 | * cait | waves at t-houlks and francesca |
| 20:54 | * aleishaa | waves at emma |
| 20:55 | * wizzyrea | waves at our future Koha devs |
| 20:55 | cait | oh there are more furhter up :) |
| 20:55 | rangi | how are the clones going? |
| 20:55 | * francesca | hello! |
| 20:55 | * cait | waves at all the academy students |
| 20:55 | * aleishaa | waves at cait! |
| 20:55 | Roman_ | still no more progress |
| 20:55 | cait | @quote random |
| 20:55 | huginn | cait: Quote #245: "<jcamins> Noooooooooooo!!!! wahanui! Cut down in the prime of life!" (added by gmcharlt at 11:07 PM, May 02, 2013) |
| 20:55 | francesca | waves |
| 20:55 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 20:55 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (9:30 AM NZDT on January 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:55 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:55 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.2°C (9:55 PM CET on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:55 | * daniel_ | waves at all Koha People |
| 20:56 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 20:56 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 22.8°C (2:55 PM CST on January 13, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:56 | * francesca | waves at everybody |
| 20:56 | cait | :) |
| 20:56 | druthb | Howdy from Houston, TX, academy students! :) |
| 20:56 | cait | hope you have a fun week working on Koha :) |
| 20:57 | * magnuse | waves to all the cool academy students, from oslo, norway |
| 20:57 | rangi | we will once the server recovers, 8 clones at once not a good idea |
| 20:57 | francesca | if the server recovers |
| 20:57 | * cait | says hi from Konstanz, Germany |
| 20:57 | * aleisha | laughs |
| 20:57 | cait | ah, rangi can fix everything ;) |
| 20:58 | * cjh | waves to all the academy kids from upstairs. |
| 20:59 | * francesca | waves back |
| 21:00 | cait | rangi: is NOW() a mysqlism? |
| 21:02 | hm | |
| 21:02 | * cait | might be confusing something |
| 21:05 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
| 21:10 | cjh | cait: NOW() also exists in postgres, but I think CURRENT_TIMESTAMP is ansi (postgres and mysql both seem to support) |
| 21:11 | cait | oh thx cjh :) |
| 21:12 | cjh | > MySQL supports NOW( ) as a synonym of the function CURRENT_TIMESTAMP. |
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| 21:13 | cait | i found that bit, but was not sure how to read it |
| 21:15 | cjh | I think it means CURRENT_TIMESTAMP is the standard function, and NOW() was added by mysql as another name for it |
| 21:15 | cait: postgres documentation also calls NOW() non-sql-standard | |
| 21:15 | cait | cjh++ |
| 21:15 | cjh | http://www.postgresql.org/docs[…]ons-datetime.html |
| 21:16 | under " The complete list of non-SQL-standard time functions is:" it mentions now() | |
| 21:16 | cait: I wanted to know the answer :D | |
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| 21:39 | rangi | gmcharlt: are you around? or anyone with console on the git server? |
| 21:39 | gmcharlt | rangi: I'm around |
| 21:39 | give me a moment to see if I can fulfill the second requirement :) | |
| 21:40 | rangi | thanks :) |
| 21:40 | academy students: git clone git://repo.or.cz/koha.git | |
| 21:45 | eythian | hi |
| 21:45 | rangi: I can push to the catalyst one, it'll be reasonably current. | |
| 21:45 | rangi: if that'd be faster for you | |
| 21:45 | rangi | yeah that might help |
| 21:47 | aleisha: can you try git clone git://git.catalyst.net.nz/koha.git | |
| 21:48 | eythian | it's pushing master right at the moment. |
| 21:48 | you might want to give it a minute | |
| 21:48 | rangi | cool |
| 21:48 | eythian | done |
| 21:48 | I'll push the other branches when I work out how that works | |
| 21:49 | oh, --mirror | |
| 21:49 | rangi | ta |
| 21:51 | ok, status check how far are you daniel_ | |
| 21:52 | eythian | rangi: done, it's probably a bit more of a mess now as it'll have all my extra branches and remotes, but that's not the end of the world. |
| 21:52 | rangi | yeah, we will deal |
| 21:53 | merllissiam: past 65 yet? | |
| 21:59 | gmcharlt | rangi: it's settled down |
| 22:03 | cait | gmcharlt++ # busy RM :) |
| 22:07 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10318: Show primary email in patron search results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c0a5cb83a8fbe849> / Bug 11505: fix untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7493f8dc52e52945a> / Bug 11381: improve styling of IDreamBooks content in bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-c |
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| 22:26 | wizzyrea | hm the username isn't defaulted for new users who use patron self registration |
| 22:26 | you can end up with a borrower with no username, but an assigned password. | |
| 22:26 | * wizzyrea | tests that again. |
| 22:26 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: that bit WFM |
| 22:26 | wizzyrea | doesn't hurt anything, but it ought to do the thing the rest of Koha does. |
| 22:27 | this is in bootstrap, not prog... let me check prog. | |
| 22:28 | at the very least, if you don't give it a username, it doesn't display it. | |
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| 22:29 | wizzyrea | naw, it doesn't work in prog on master either. I don't have username set as a required field (which isn't default) - is there a setting I'm missing? |
| 22:31 | http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7082/v86t.png | |
| 22:32 | eythian | pre-filling the password box rubs me the wrong way a bit. |
| 22:32 | Why doesn't it just log them on. | |
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | probably because there's an optional step of having them confirm their email address? |
| 22:33 | idk. | |
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| 22:38 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: dunno re userid, works for me and it shoudl always default to firstname.lastname |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea | I think I figured it out - if you give the system preference a borrower category that doesn't exist, it doesn't register the borrower, but doesn't say that anything went werong |
| 22:38 | wrong | |
| 22:39 | which is a different problem :) | |
| 22:40 | example, I told the syspref to use category A, which didn't exist. It worked when I used PT | |
| 22:41 | gmcharlt | ah |
| 22:41 | definitely worth reporting | |
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| 22:54 | tcohen | wizzyrea: 11096 is about big records being indexed |
| 22:55 | wizzyrea | how big is big |
| 22:55 | tcohen | more than 99999 characters? |
| 22:57 | dcook | tcohen: What was your scenario again? I've mostly encountered it due to extremely long and numerous notes fields |
| 22:57 | tcohen | i attached the exact record :-D |
| 22:58 | and galen wrote some unit tests with its own too | |
| 22:58 | dcook | bug 11096 |
| 22:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra |
| 22:58 | tcohen | huge notes |
| 22:58 | dcook | Mmm, right. Lots of items. |
| 22:58 | tcohen | lots of whatever heh |
| 22:59 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:00 | tcohen | bbl, cya dcook |
| 23:00 | rangi | we are going to go lunch now |
| 23:00 | tcohen | hi rangi! |
| 23:00 | rangi | can someone look at bug 11537 |
| 23:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11537 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Increasing test coverage for C4::Log |
| 23:00 | tcohen | hope you're having fun |
| 23:00 | rangi | first patch of this years academy |
| 23:00 | dcook | Hmm |
| 23:00 | tcohen | rangi: tomorrow i will |
| 23:02 | * wizzyrea | got it |
| 23:02 | dcook | rangi: Sure, although not I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking for |
| 23:03 | rangi | test plan is on the patch |
| 23:03 | wizzyrea: prolly needs to be outside catalyst for sign off | |
| 23:03 | wizzyrea | ah right. never mind then. |
| 23:03 | dcook | All right. I's gots this |
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| 23:04 | rangi | thanks dcook |
| 23:05 | dcook | np |
| 23:05 | Thanks for your sign offs (and generally just being awesome :P) | |
| 23:23 | kathryn | rangi: woohoo for academy patches! |
| 23:27 | wizzyrea | \o/ academy patches! |
| 23:31 | rangi | today is just unit tests, tomorrow is working on a few different things |
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| 23:32 | dcook | unit tests \o/ |
| 23:38 | pastebot | "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Tests to improve" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/71 |
| 23:39 | rangi | right gonna grab some food now ive found some work for them |
| 23:40 | dcook | Bon appétit |
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