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| 00:08 | eythian | http://zork.net/~sneakums/orly.png |
| 00:10 | rangi | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-whip-the-country |
| 00:21 | rambutan | looks like the lamp post was rotten at the bottom anyway |
| 00:21 | rangi | "What is left to blow down in Wellington has already blown down in the past several months" |
| 00:22 | rambutan | what's a conservatory? a sun room maybe? |
| 00:23 | eythian | sorta |
| 00:23 | in essence, yes | |
| 00:23 | but usually made totally out of glass and attached to a house. | |
| 00:23 | whereas I'd consider a sunroom a smallish room with big windows. | |
| 00:24 | rambutan | close counts |
| 00:25 | :) | |
| 00:25 | eythian | traditionally you'd have plants in it. |
| 00:25 | so that in cold old ~16th century England you could have tropical fruits growing to impress your guests when they visit. | |
| 00:26 | Now you usually have a few plants and use it to heat the rest of the house :) | |
| 00:34 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]5veU&noredirect=1 <-- we are kinda used to this weather now, this was 2 days ago |
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| 00:51 | vinz3g | good night, I wonder if anyone has experience in installing koha vhosts? using some panel, for example ZPanel or cpanel? |
| 00:51 | eythian | good morning. |
| 00:51 | no wait | |
| 00:51 | afternoon | |
| 00:52 | vinz3g | hi, good afternoon |
| 00:53 | eythian | Most people don't tend to use Koha with panel things, so far as I know. |
| 00:55 | vinz3g | ok, ok, okay, it's just trying to hold my VPS and have seen full Googling, you may do so, however there is not much documentation about it ... |
| 00:57 | eythian | you probably can, but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets problematic in parts. |
| 01:00 | vinz3g | ok, I think you're right, and it's better to have a dedicated vps koha |
| 01:00 | eythian | I would recommend that. |
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| 01:05 | vinz3g | Thanks |
| 01:05 | Gracias! | |
| 01:13 | eythian | NO worries. |
| 01:14 | mtompset | dcook: *ping* |
| 01:14 | dcook | Hmm? |
| 01:14 | mtompset | Are you ever going to get back to bug 10811? |
| 01:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Add a 999$c record matching rule to the MARC21 defaults |
| 01:14 | dcook | Mmm, maybe |
| 01:15 | Probably even. | |
| 01:15 | mtompset | I'd love to sign it off. ;) |
| 01:15 | dcook | I'd love for you to sign it off, but I'm working on local stuff atm. |
| 01:15 | mtompset | I'm in the midst of cleaning up branches in my git repo. |
| 01:18 | No problem, I figure a reminder randomly can't hurt. Sometimes, people need a break from the piles of things thrown at them. :) | |
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| 02:14 | dcook | Hmm, looks like a bug in a log viewer.. |
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| 02:32 | eythian | new master packages uploading, for those on the bleeding edge. |
| 02:33 | Oh, I totally forgot to check that the version numbers would be right. Good thing they are. | |
| 02:41 | dcook | eythian++ |
| 02:42 | This log viewer isn't anywhere even close to right.. | |
| 03:04 | Hmm | |
| 03:04 | Maybe I'll try gmcharlt's idea of a patch series... | |
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| 03:48 | mtompset | WOW! That was a split. |
| 03:53 | Have a great day, #koha! | |
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| 05:27 | dcook | Bleargh...too many problems... |
| 05:53 | That moment when you realize that someone has already fixed something in master and you didn't realize until you've already written out a detailed bug report | |
| 05:53 | * dcook | facepalm |
| 05:53 | wahanui | http://buikitty.files.wordpres[…]120202-094434.jpg |
| 05:54 | dcook | I guess only part of it was fixed.. |
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| 06:34 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 06:37 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:36 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:36 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:36 | magnuse | yeah, i thought it was kinda warm... |
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| 07:56 | arunkumars3189 | hello |
| 07:56 | wahanui | niihau, arunkumars3189 |
| 07:57 | arunkumars3189 | need info |
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| 08:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 08:42 | cait | hi reiveune :) |
| 08:43 | reiveune | hi cait, magnuse, rangi |
| 08:43 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 08:43 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 08:43 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.1°C (9:40 AM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:43 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:43 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:46 | cait | magnuse: clear is a lie... lts of white fog today |
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| 08:54 | nlegrand | hey #koha |
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| 11:29 | ashimema | quiet here today |
| 11:30 | * cait | waves |
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| 11:34 | ashimema | tumbleweed drifts by.. |
| 11:34 | hi cait | |
| 11:35 | * cait | felt a little ignored :) |
| 11:35 | cait | friday aftre lots of holidays... guess still a lot of people on vacation |
| 11:35 | ashimema | yeah... lucky buggers :P |
| 11:36 | cait | i enjoy the quiet :) |
| 11:36 | working on something that I wanted to work on all last year | |
| 11:36 | ashimema | oh? |
| 11:37 | cait | we have one heavier customized koha |
| 11:37 | used for manuscripts | |
| 11:37 | updating it :) | |
| 11:37 | ashimema | You didn't get a chance to checkout the zebra locking bug did you? I'd love to see that go in.. |
| 11:37 | sounds fun.. | |
| 11:37 | cait | which of those? |
| 11:38 | the problem is, i might not know how to test it | |
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| 11:38 | ashimema | there's a pretty good test plan for it I believe.. |
| 11:39 | Robin has verified it should work with packages too.. I’d QA but I signed it off in a various iteration.. | |
| 11:39 | and am about to give it another sign-ff comment as I've now tested it with yet more variations.. (I build a package with it) | |
| 11:42 | cait | which bug? :) |
| 11:48 | ashimema: bug number! .) | |
| 11:51 | ashimema | sorry.. kettle boiled.. I can't mis the kettle.. it's sacroligous |
| 11:51 | bug 11078 | |
| 11:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Signed Off , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds |
| 11:54 | cait | ah i see |
| 11:54 | i think the flock testing scared me off a bit | |
| 11:54 | not sure i know how to make sure that it actually does what it says :( | |
| 11:55 | but i agree about wanting this to go in | |
| 11:55 | ashimema: are you using external xslt btw? | |
| 11:56 | ashimema | is Chris on qa this release.. I think he would understand it nicely and could test it pretty quick.. it's a trivial patch really.. just gone through the loop a few times to get it perfect for packages etc.. both robin and galen have already pretty much given it their blessing. |
| 11:57 | cait | ashimema: i agree with you - but sadly rangi is not |
| 11:57 | ashimema | yes we use local xslt's now.. though I'm still pondering exactly how to merge in the updates from the changing default into our custom ones. |
| 11:57 | cait | i was thinking maybe Joubu or khall |
| 11:57 | ashimema: doyou know if it takes a relativ path? | |
| 11:57 | trying for the first time right now | |
| 11:58 | the xslt are all in the same directory as the standard xslt | |
| 12:00 | ashimema | yeah, you can use relative paths.. |
| 12:00 | you can host them pretty much anywhere you like ;) | |
| 12:00 | but yeah.. we jsut stick them next to the defaults | |
| 12:01 | cait | ok... so um. what would the path be relativ to then? |
| 12:01 | * cait | might be just a bit confused right now |
| 12:05 | cait | ah i think i know |
| 12:07 | XSLT.pm | |
| 12:08 | at least it looks like it's working now :) | |
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| 12:25 | tcohen | morning #koha! |
| 12:25 | cait | hi tcohen |
| 12:25 | kivilahtio | good day tcohen! |
| 12:26 | tcohen | will this be a great year for Koha? |
| 12:26 | kivilahtio | how do you deal with overdue_notices.pl? If you run it nightly, I get the same overdue email sent every day? |
| 12:26 | tcohen | Yes! heh |
| 12:26 | kivilahtio | ofc! |
| 12:27 | cait | kivilahtio: look into the -t option |
| 12:28 | then it will follow the notice triggers set in the interface, that#s how we do it | |
| 12:30 | kivilahtio | cait: "Add the --triggered option for daily cron, at the risk of no notice being generated if the cron fails to run on time." |
| 12:30 | This could be circumvented by using the /etc/cron.daily/ -folder? | |
| 12:30 | cait: I should read more thoroughyl :( | |
| 12:30 | cait | i guess the packages do it that way |
| 12:31 | what i tmeans is that if you miss to create your ovedues on one day for whatever reason | |
| 12:31 | it's hard to recreate them the other day | |
| 12:31 | or 'run the script for another date' | |
| 12:32 | kivilahtio | cait: hmm, I feel this wont be much of an issue |
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| 12:32 | kivilahtio | cait: Shouldn't happen very often |
| 12:32 | cait | it should not :) |
| 12:33 | kivilahtio | cait: Thanks for your help! |
| 12:33 | cait: And have a awesome new year | |
| 12:34 | cait | i am hoping :) |
| 12:41 | ashimema | hmm... motd is a bit out of date.. we have 3.14.01 now ;) |
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| 12:48 | francharb | Hello #koha |
| 12:50 | kivilahtio | gday francharb! |
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| 13:15 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 13:19 | kmkale | Happy new year #koha |
| 13:23 | oleonard | And to you too kmkale |
| 13:23 | kmkale | Hi oleonard |
| 13:25 | http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ looks great | |
| 13:26 | is it based on some FOSS? or is it koha community creation? | |
| 13:26 | tcohen | rangi's |
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| 13:28 | kmkale | Wow!! rangi++ |
| 13:36 | cait | happy new year kmkale and oleonard |
| 13:37 | kmkale | hey cait |
| 13:37 | hi druthb | |
| 13:37 | druthb | hi, kmkale. :) |
| 13:37 | kmkale | :-) |
| 13:37 | kivilahtio | dashboard is cool! |
| 13:38 | I wonder how it is made | |
| 13:38 | kmkale | reading about sandboxes. Fascinating!! |
| 13:38 | kivilahtio | I'm pretty sure it's not built on Jira :) |
| 13:38 | cait | i think it pulls data from different sources |
| 13:38 | and quite sure there is a git repo somewhere | |
| 13:39 | magnuse | kivilahtio: https://gitorious.org/koha-dashboard |
| 13:39 | kmkale | yup thats a piece of work much worth spinning off as a project on its own |
| 13:39 | hi magnuse :-) | |
| 13:39 | magnuse | hiya kmkale! |
| 13:40 | cait | kmkale: it's probably quite specific to koha tho |
| 13:41 | magnuse | it's mostly data from bugzilla, isn't it? i can imagine other projects finding something like that useful |
| 13:41 | cait | magnuse: but it's all our custom status and such, so it would take work to modify i guess |
| 13:41 | but I can see your point :) | |
| 13:41 | magnuse | that's true |
| 13:42 | and if we all make sure we get our names on there every month, great things will happen! :-) | |
| 13:42 | kmkale | I'm sure it can be adopted. Looks really great! |
| 13:45 | sandboxes is fantastic for testing! Kudos #koha | |
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| 14:01 | bgallagher | Well I ate deep fried pigeon, shark fin, and goose flipper tonight |
| 14:01 | tcohen | hi magnuse ! |
| 14:01 | magnuse | hiya tcohen and bgallagher |
| 14:02 | oleonard | bgallagher: If I didn't know where you were right now I might think you were eating with hobos |
| 14:02 | (okay maybe not the shark fin part) | |
| 14:02 | bgallagher | Haha |
| 14:05 | cait | happy new year bgallagher :) |
| 14:05 | oleonard | bgallagher: I hope you're getting some fresh fruit too. Mangosteens, longans, rambutans, etc. |
| 14:05 | kivilahtio | especially rambutans |
| 14:06 | bgallagher | oleonard: Not durarian (spelling?) though |
| 14:06 | Happy new year cait | |
| 14:06 | magnuse | is that the smelly one? |
| 14:06 | bgallagher | Yes that is the smelly one |
| 14:06 | oleonard | Yeah I was warned against that one |
| 14:07 | magnuse | "the durian is distinctive for its large size, strong odour, and formidable thorn-covered husk" |
| 14:07 | bgallagher | Two of the hotels we stayed at had it listed that you could not bring it in to the hotel |
| 14:08 | magnuse | lol |
| 14:09 | Alfred Russel Wallace seems to have been quite fond of it though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D[…]Flavour_and_odour | |
| 14:15 | bgallagher | Alright night night all |
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| 14:43 | francharb | pouette |
| 14:43 | ebegin | good morning |
| 14:48 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 14:48 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -12.7°C (9:40 AM EST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:48 | ebegin | @wunder montreal quebec |
| 14:48 | huginn | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -23.0°C (9:00 AM EST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -30.0°C. Windchill: -30.0°C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:49 | ebegin | :( |
| 14:49 | oleonard | I had a feeling you could top mine ebegin |
| 14:49 | cait | gr. |
| 14:49 | * cait | changed something int he breadcrumbs and now they won't work |
| 14:50 | cait | *sigh* |
| 14:50 | ebegin | warmer that yesterday's -27C :) |
| 14:51 | jcamins | cait: I always add oregano. |
| 14:52 | ebegin | pffff... just write a line for debug purpose and I wrote 'warm' instead of 'warn' :) |
| 14:53 | oleonard | ebegin: You might have to take off your mittens |
| 14:54 | * jcamins | heads into the city, having helped cait on her quest for better fried food. |
| 14:54 | cait | lol |
| 14:54 | thx jcamins | |
| 14:54 | tcohen | hi gmcharlt |
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| 15:04 | cait | i am gonig to scream if i can't figure out what's going wrong here soon :( |
| 15:05 | francharb | cait, breathe |
| 15:05 | everything gonna be alright | |
| 15:05 | ;) | |
| 15:05 | cait | hmpf? :) |
| 15:05 | tcohen | cait: what's up? |
| 15:05 | cait | hard to explain because i changed something... just send cookies? |
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| 15:06 | * tcohen | sends mate cookies with dulce de leche |
| 15:06 | ashimema | any packaging guru's about? |
| 15:06 | * druthb | sends cookies, too |
| 15:06 | cait | tcohen: do they exist? |
| 15:06 | * francharb | pitch a load of cookies to cait |
| 15:06 | francharb | ;) |
| 15:07 | tcohen | cait: of course not, but if you bring some mate cookies, I'll put dulce de leche on them |
| 15:10 | cait | k |
| 15:13 | ashimema | tcohen: I followed the easy packaging guide.. and for quickness am trying to install the created package using the 'dpkg -i' -> 'apt-get -f install' method.. should i really get lots of lines like: Use of uninitialized value in numeric lt (<) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
| 15:13 | for the dpkg -i piece? | |
| 15:14 | the apt-get then fails | |
| 15:14 | slightly lost now... sure it worked the first time | |
| 15:14 | tcohen | that happens (usually) when you have already tried creating an instance |
| 15:15 | but it hasn't got its DB initialized | |
| 15:15 | so when you install, it tries to upgrade the db schema | |
| 15:15 | ashimema | I see.. that might make sense |
| 15:16 | tcohen | bug 8779 |
| 15:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8779 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , .deb upgrade fails on incomplete instance setup |
| 15:16 | ashimema | awesome.. knew you were the right guy to ask |
| 15:17 | tcohen | i completely forgot about that bug |
| 15:17 | i'll try to do something about it | |
| 15:17 | ashimema | hehe.. cheers |
| 15:18 | tcohen | we just need to catch the db upgrade failure, alert the user and move on, I guess |
| 15:18 | kivilahtio | do you have experience between lxc and kvm? |
| 15:18 | ashimema | I'm generally trying to get to grips with the packaging stuff.. adding one more person to the small list of people who can reasonably thoroughly check packaging bugs. |
| 15:19 | kivilahtio | any opinions? Which would be more suitable for Koha? |
| 15:19 | ashimema | yeah.. that's sounds about right. |
| 15:19 | kivilahtio | we have only one serve rto run all the services on |
| 15:19 | cait | argh. |
| 15:19 | kivilahtio | I guess I should separate MariaDB and Koha to separate LXC's |
| 15:19 | tcohen | kvm certaintly is suitable |
| 15:19 | the question is if lxc is | |
| 15:20 | kivilahtio | tcohen: then again should I just skip virtualization :) |
| 15:20 | cait | argh = might have found it :) |
| 15:20 | kivilahtio | would make things easier for sure |
| 15:20 | tcohen | for me, vistualization is really easy |
| 15:21 | kivilahtio | just thinking about separating db and logic |
| 15:21 | tcohen | just a couple of commands |
| 15:21 | kivilahtio | tcohen: What I am worried about is the increased overhead caused by virutalization |
| 15:21 | tcohen: I agree, with libvirt virtualization is quite easy, but there are some optimization parts that get more complex | |
| 15:22 | tcohen: I am just curious if there is any benefit to virtualization when using one server to host the DB and application logic(Koha) | |
| 15:22 | tcohen | we virtualize everything here (300+ servers) |
| 15:22 | cait | unreadable_templates-- |
| 15:22 | tcohen | the only benefit I see is isolation |
| 15:22 | kivilahtio | tcohen: up |
| 15:22 | 300+ wow | |
| 15:22 | I am trying to grasp that | |
| 15:22 | tcohen | the bottleneck is (as usual) IO |
| 15:23 | kivilahtio | so it's not only Koha |
| 15:23 | tcohen: we got some HP brand SSD's | |
| 15:23 | shouldnt be an issue :) tho ridiculously expensive, just crazy, and our provider didnt let us use anything more affordable | |
| 15:23 | tcohen | if you have spare memory you won't have problems with IO and the DB |
| 15:23 | ashimema | the koha-remove script isn't completely thorough either yet is it.. |
| 15:23 | kivilahtio | tcohen: 128GB |
| 15:24 | tcohen: but I was planning to run the zebra index from the ssd | |
| 15:24 | tcohen: for us the zebra index gets pretty large, say 50GB+ | |
| 15:24 | tcohen | having mysql apart from the front-end server makes sense for (horizontal) scalability |
| 15:24 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I thought they comp0ete for resources if they are under one OS |
| 15:24 | tcohen | (i.e. multiple http front-ends, a single shared db) |
| 15:25 | kivilahtio | tcohen: ok |
| 15:25 | tcohen | they will compete anyway (in the host OS) |
| 15:26 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I thought virtualization solves that one? |
| 15:26 | tcohen: they compete for IO | |
| 15:26 | tcohen: But I thought if there are multiple threads in Koha, then DB might have to wait for CPU time | |
| 15:27 | tcohen | that's correct kivilahtio |
| 15:27 | kivilahtio | tho we have 2x4 cores, but wouldnt want to waste hardware on inefficiency |
| 15:27 | but then again virtualization adds overhead and I have no idea which one is better | |
| 15:28 | tcohen | virtualization will give you flexibility |
| 15:28 | kivilahtio | tcohen: yeah, that is pretty awesome |
| 15:28 | tcohen | the overhead is not something to worry about |
| 15:28 | you wont' notice it | |
| 15:28 | kivilahtio | tcohen: ok, thanks! I'll stick to KVM+libvirt then. But I think i notice it esp with SSD's |
| 15:28 | but I can just give the Zebra indexer native access to SSD's | |
| 15:29 | with libvirt+KVM I noticed the IO to be somewhat slower | |
| 15:29 | tcohen | oh, i have no experience with SSD in servers, we have several storage servers (with and without SSD) but we use them through iSCSI |
| 15:29 | (SCSI-over-Ethernet) | |
| 15:30 | so we have latency | |
| 15:30 | kivilahtio | tcohen: OK |
| 15:30 | tcohen | but, we use lots of caching and RAM :-D |
| 15:30 | kivilahtio | SSD's cost like 2000$ a piece so I am not sure should we buy them |
| 15:30 | 200GB | |
| 15:31 | And we have them mirrored, so duh | |
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| 15:35 | tcohen | kivilahtio: you should make some performance tests before investing i guess |
| 15:35 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #291 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:35 | tcohen | maybe is not a bad idea to have the ssd drives, but it will depend on the load/size of your setup |
| 15:36 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I am mostly worried about how Zebra deals with caching, and can you preload the zebra to RAM on startup? |
| 15:37 | tcohen | i'm not aware of that, sorry |
| 15:37 | kivilahtio | tcohen: It is pretty hard to make preformance tests as we dont have any data from our current ILS |
| 15:37 | there is no coparison benchmark | |
| 15:37 | but I did some two years ago | |
| 15:37 | our investement should cover us pretty well :) | |
| 15:38 | tcohen | you might just test and see how bad it is |
| 15:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1582 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 15:40 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11192: (follow-up) fix a little typo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b33356b8ac945f451> / Bug 11192: Fix lf and ff07-02 definition in ccl.properties <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c183751309fa95c6e> |
| 15:44 | oleonard | Looks like OCLC's starting to do more and more RDA cataloging. Some records from OverDrive are NOW IN ALL CAPS. |
| 15:51 | kivilahtio | have a nice weekend! |
| 15:52 | cait | oleonard: and all caps is rda? |
| 15:52 | * cait | has some doubts |
| 15:54 | oleonard | RDA rules say that the cover of the book is the definitive reference for title, including case. |
| 15:54 | cait | hm |
| 15:55 | interesting | |
| 15:55 | wahanui | i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 15:55 | oleonard | wahanui: I'm picking "bad" in this case |
| 15:55 | wahanui | oleonard: huh? |
| 15:55 | cait | oleonard: it hink it's a question of interpretation maybe? |
| 15:55 | can't see germany adopting that rule :) | |
| 15:56 | oleonard | cait: Luckily RDA also says that all cataloging decisions are left to the discretion of the cataloger. |
| 15:56 | RDA: "Follow these rules! Or don't. Whatever." | |
| 15:57 | gmcharlt | oleonard: or, level 3 strikes again! |
| 15:59 | ashimema | tcohen: bug 8773, how would one go about using a different indexing daemon with it? I assume it's just replace one of the config variables with the command to run another indexer... now that daemon mode is available in rebuild_zebra.pl I'd love to see if this patch can also support it. |
| 15:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 15:59 | tcohen | ashimema: /etc/default/koha-common |
| 16:00 | INDEXER_DAEMON="koha-index-daemon" | |
| 16:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11066: (follow-up) add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]555f96445682a0c28> / Bug 11066: make RIS and Bibtex exports RDA compatible <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8aed70af93a5a4f61> |
| 16:02 | ashimema | tcohen: cheers.. I'll have a play.. very very close to signing off on qa for it now.. it's been a long time coming (sorry for that).. but i had to learn rather allot on the way to it.. |
| 16:02 | Works perfectly with the tamil indexer already :) | |
| 16:03 | tcohen | it does |
| 16:03 | i belive we need to refactor the rebuild_zebra script soon | |
| 16:03 | anyway, the koha-*-indexer scripts all set the relevant environment variables | |
| 16:04 | (those introduced by 8773) | |
| 16:04 | the question would be if there's something tamil's-specific that would prevent rebuild_zebra to be daemonized | |
| 16:08 | ashimema: i meant the koha-indexer script | |
| 16:09 | cait | ashimema++ |
| 16:10 | ashimema | rebuild_zebra has needed a good re-factoring (read re-writing from scratch) for a while.. I think you explained the whole history fo those bugs to me at some point.. shame an internal one didn't get through before tamil came on the scene. |
| 16:11 | koha-indexer script.. sorry you lost me slighlty there. | |
| 16:13 | tcohen | koha-indexer is a helper script for packages |
| 16:13 | that has several switches | |
| 16:13 | you should test it upon signing | |
| 16:13 | koha-indexer --help | |
| 16:14 | it is called from the init script | |
| 16:17 | ashimema | just reading it now.. |
| 16:18 | you think koha-indexer needs refactoring or rebuild_zebra.pl then.. | |
| 16:21 | ack.. too many 'indexer' mentions.. I had my head wrapped around this stuff.. or at least I thought I had.. yes, I have tested the koha-indexer script.. with tamil enabled.. works nicely.. just reading it to see if/what would need to change to get it working nicely with rebuild_zebra (or rather koha-rebuild-zebra) | |
| 16:25 | cait | bye all :) |
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| 16:27 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #291: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/291/ |
| 16:27 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11192: Fix lf and ff07-02 definition in ccl.properties | |
| 16:27 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11192: (follow-up) fix a little typo | |
| 16:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11192 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Fix two definitions in ccl.properties |
| 16:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #292 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:02 | talljoy | good mid-morning #koha |
| 17:03 | later tell cait just got your message on 2499 i will take a look | |
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| 17:04 | talljoy | cait just got your message on 2499 i will take a look |
| 17:04 | cait | thx |
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| 17:25 | tcohen | ashimema: INDEXER_DAEMON needs a daemon, not a command |
| 17:26 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #292: UNSTABLE in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/292/ |
| 17:26 | * Joy Nelson: Bug 11066: make RIS and Bibtex exports RDA compatible | |
| 17:26 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11066: (follow-up) add regression test | |
| 17:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, joy, Pushed to Master , Export Citations not RDA compatible |
| 17:37 | tcohen | bug 8375, we should be using something like jasper reports |
| 17:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Signed Off , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF |
| 17:42 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:47 | jeff | "Some people, when faced with a reporting problem, think 'I know, I'll use JasperReports!'. Now you have Java." |
| 17:47 | (i kid, i kid!) | |
| 17:48 | We use JasperReports Server here to report against statistics databases and Evergreen. | |
| 17:48 | jcamins | jeff: and then there are the people who when faced with the desire to play a card game say "I know, I'll just define a new language for defining card games." |
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| 17:51 | jeff | does "taking an existing card game and defining a new variant/expansion based on a programming language" count? |
| 17:52 | because oddly enough, that was something that came up in brief conversation last night. :P | |
| 17:52 | jcamins | jeff: that was my original plan, but it's gotten wildly out of hand. |
| 17:53 | jeff: it turns out that if you don't want to hard code every aspect of the game, you have a problem. | |
| 17:54 | tcohen | interesting pov jcamins |
| 17:55 | jcamins | tcohen: it seems counter-intuitive, but there are actually entire conferences devoted to describing games. |
| 17:56 | jeff | And just to be clear, I think JasperReports is a great option for reporting, and JasperReports Server is a handy tool for staff to use for self-service reports against a wide array of sources. I just find myself staring at a Java stacktrace and dealing with Java more often than I like. |
| 17:56 | Works very well for most users, though. I make no claims of its suitability either way for Koha. | |
| 17:57 | jcamins | Wow, what a heading: ‡a Augusta Dorothea, ‡c Princess, consort of Anton Günther II, Prince of Schwarzburg-Sondershausen, ‡d 1666-1751 |
| 17:58 | There's no authority for Anton Günther himself. | |
| 17:58 | Seemingly. | |
| 17:59 | oleonard | I'll bet Anton Günther II would be mad to hear that his consort made more of herself than he did |
| 18:00 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah, what a memorial: "Not as important as someone considered so unimportant as to not have her own name." |
| 18:01 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1582: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 23 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1582/ |
| 18:01 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11192: Fix lf and ff07-02 definition in ccl.properties | |
| 18:01 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11192: (follow-up) fix a little typo | |
| 18:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11192 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Fix two definitions in ccl.properties |
| 18:05 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1583 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1581 1 day 0 hr ago) |
| 18:07 | tcohen | jeff, the problem seems to be getting jasper server to run out of the box with whatever Koha needs to use it. It could be a nice enhancement for vendors to offer clients |
| 18:10 | * magnuse | convinces himself to start making pizza |
| 18:10 | jcamins | magnuse: I made some awesome pizza yesterday. |
| 18:10 | Usually I make it after coming back late from work so I don't give it much time to proof, but yesterday Shari had to run errands after I got home, so it had time to rise. | |
| 18:14 | magnuse | i have a dough with lots of fiber in it - if i give it any time to rise it falls flat |
| 18:14 | the faster i can get it into the oven the better, it seems | |
| 18:15 | ah, i use "wholemeal flour" according to google translate | |
| 18:15 | * magnuse | wanders off to actually do it |
| 18:19 | * tcohen | makes his own pizza tooooo |
| 18:19 | cooks its home made pizzas on his spit | |
| 18:21 | tcohen | Charcoal grilled |
| 18:29 | jcamins | magnuse: I usually use whole wheat flour, though yesterday I didn't out of pique with the whole wheat flour I've been using. |
| 18:31 | tcohen | jcamins: have you tried like this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QP3S[…]o/s1600/pizza.jpg |
| 18:31 | jcamins | We don't have a grill. |
| 18:32 | I grilled hamburger buns once when visiting a friend, though. | |
| 18:32 | tcohen | grilled pizza is great :-D |
| 18:32 | jcamins | Yeah, I'd love to have a grill. |
| 18:34 | * cait | would be happy with a new oven too |
| 18:34 | cait | no pizza for me currently |
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| 18:40 | jcamins | cait: when are you getting your oven replaced? |
| 18:41 | cait | dunno |
| 19:36 | * talljoy | is glad she already ate lunch. grilled pizzas would drive me insanely hungry |
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| 19:47 | jcamins | Someone just skied by across the street. |
| 19:48 | Apparently we can add "skiing" to our list of "ways people travel to get around New York City in 2014." | |
| 19:49 | cait | ? |
| 19:49 | jcamins | cait: this is the first time I ever saw someone skiing in the city. |
| 19:49 | cait | i have never seen that here |
| 19:51 | jcamins | It's not an obvious mode of urban transportation to me. |
| 19:51 | So I can't say I'm surprised. | |
| 19:51 | cait | not really |
| 19:51 | youactually got so much snow in the city? | |
| 19:52 | jcamins | Except to that one enterprising woman who was going remarkably fast. |
| 19:52 | No. | |
| 19:52 | We got 10cm, maybe. | |
| 19:52 | cait | oh |
| 19:53 | jcamins | Oh, huh. 17cm. |
| 19:55 | Ugh. Forecast is for -11C on Tuesday. | |
| 19:56 | cait | we got rain |
| 19:56 | no snow this year so far | |
| 19:56 | well not here in Konstanz, it's a weird winter | |
| 20:01 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 20:01 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 1.0°C (2:01 PM CST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:03 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 20:03 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 15.4°C (2:02 PM CST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:03 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 20:03 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 20:03 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1583: FIXED in 1 hr 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1583/ |
| 20:03 | * Joy Nelson: Bug 11066: make RIS and Bibtex exports RDA compatible | |
| 20:03 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11066: (follow-up) add regression test | |
| 20:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, joy, Pushed to Master , Export Citations not RDA compatible |
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| 22:50 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 22:50 | http://forums.bit-tech.net/sho[…]66947&postcount=5 ("I think you need Cat-alyst drivers for that motherboard") | |
| 23:06 | Have a great day, #koha. | |
| 23:06 | francharb | bye all |
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| 23:48 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 23:48 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (11:50 PM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:48 | magnuse | weird winter indeed |
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