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| 03:27 | bag | evening |
| 03:40 | druthb | o/ |
| 04:08 | bag | heya druthb_away |
| 04:08 | just missed you | |
| 04:09 | druthb_away: those rings that you were trying out - look really rad | |
| 04:16 | @later tell druthb - cool rings :) they look awesome | |
| 04:16 | huginn | bag: The operation succeeded. |
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| 04:36 | bag | boy kind of boring with no one around |
| 04:36 | back to looking at bugs for me then :) | |
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| 08:49 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 11:11 | cait | jcamins: you around by chance? |
| 12:23 | ok... if anyone is around who know stuff about apache... I need some help there | |
| 12:23 | updated the laptop and now it's broken... *sigh* | |
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| 15:04 | * magnuse | waves |
| 15:04 | magnuse | cait: what's your problem with apache? |
| 15:04 | * cait | waves at magnuse |
| 15:05 | cait | new apache version |
| 15:05 | but i think i solved it | |
| 15:05 | magnuse | 2.4.x ? |
| 15:05 | cait | yeah |
| 15:05 | magnuse | .conf problem? |
| 15:06 | cait | that and some others |
| 15:07 | i wrote up a summary | |
| 15:08 | magnuse | cait++ |
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| 17:51 | dpk1 | Is mtompset around? |
| 18:10 | magnuse | dpk1: he's not in my list of logged on users... |
| 18:13 | dpk1 | magnuse: do you know his nick? Sometimes they are not obvious. |
| 18:13 | magnuse | i don't know any other nick than mtompset |
| 18:19 | * magnuse | wanders off |
| 18:19 | cait | dpk1: not many people around during weekends |
| 18:20 | dpk1: maybe leave him a note on the bug or try tomorrow? | |
| 20:05 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #187 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #184 1 mo 6 days ago) |
| 20:47 | Project Koha_3.10.x build #187: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/187/ | |
| 20:47 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 7478: fix template translation problem in catalogue_out.tt | |
| 20:47 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: include fine details when printing a fine | |
| 20:47 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) tidy members/printinvoice.pl | |
| 20:47 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) improve display of fine details on printed invoice | |
| 20:47 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10619 - fix errors in sco.css for the CCSR OPAC templates | |
| 20:47 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9531: Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7478 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Template/translation problem in catalogue_out.tt |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 10331 - Little errors in unimarc_field_4XX.pl (punctuation) |
| 20:47 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10564 - use OPACURLOpenInNewWindow in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10027 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Fine details not showing when printing a fine |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10718: fix items with no checkouts report |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10619 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , sco.css missing for CCSR OPAC templates |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9531 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10331 trivial, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , Little errors in unimarc_field_4XX.pl (punctuation) | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10564 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , use OPACURLOpenInNewWindow in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10718 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , items with no checkouts report does not work | |
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| 21:16 | eythian | hi |
| 21:16 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 21:16 | happy monday! :) | |
| 21:16 | eythian | it is certainly a monday :) |
| 21:28 | dpk1 | gmcharlt: I have updated patches on both 6435 and 11078 to address QA comments. |
| 21:39 | JDatTeTakere joined #koha | |
| 21:40 | JDatTeTakere | Morning Koha Community from sunny Levin |
| 21:44 | cait | morning JDatTeTakere :) |
| 21:46 | JDatTeTakere | Yay...it's Katrin!!! |
| 21:47 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | lucky sunny levin :) |
| 21:49 | it's cloudish wellies for me | |
| 21:51 | JDatTeTakere | Gidday Bob |
| 21:52 | cait | wizzyrea: i haven't seen the sun in days.. |
| 21:52 | JDatTeTakere | Well, I may have over-exaggerated the sunniness a little @wizzyrea There are patches in the cloud where the sun is forcing its way through |
| 21:52 | cait | JDatTeTakere: just me :) |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | same here :) |
| 21:52 | cait | wizzyrea: it's kind of cold too |
| 21:52 | :) | |
| 21:52 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 21:52 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.8°C (10:50 PM CET on November 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 21:52 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on November 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | 17 is nice. |
| 21:53 | cait | wizzyrea: No. or No ? |
| 21:53 | looking a tthe english numberpatterns for serials | |
| 21:53 | we have | |
| 21:53 | 'No. {X}', | |
| 21:53 | but | |
| 21:54 | Volume Number 1', 'Vol {X}, No {Y}', | |
| 21:54 | JDatTeTakere | Brrrrr...cold in Germany |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | it feels more proper to have the period. |
| 21:54 | cait | hm |
| 21:54 | JDatTeTakere | @wunder Levin |
| 21:54 | huginn | JDatTeTakere: The current temperature in LEVIN, Levin, New Zealand is 21.0°C (10:54 AM NZDT on November 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:56 | eythian | If you have . after No, you probably should also have one after Vol, as it indicates an abbrev. |
| 21:57 | JDatTeTakere | I have a conumdrum. We have a Circ rule for All Libraries for Rental Non Fiction. They are set to go out for 14 days but are actually being issued for 7 days. I have just created a new rule, just for Levin, and it's now lending for 14 days. I can go ahead and clone that rule for the other 2 libraries but I'm wondering why the original one wasn't working. |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | because of the way the rules cascade. |
| 21:59 | if it hits a default rule for a branch, it uses that one before it gets to the more specific default | |
| 21:59 | eythian | which is kinda wrong |
| 21:59 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 21:59 | it's been that way since... 3.4-ish | |
| 22:00 | cait | hmm not sure if it's wrong - branch should overrule all libraries i think? |
| 22:00 | JDatTeTakere | So there must be a rule for a branch in there somewhere that is stopping the All Libraries one from working? |
| 22:01 | cait | if you had a patron all itemtypes or all itemtypes all patrons i think that would do it |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | JDatTeTakere: I'd have to look at your rules - but yes |
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| 22:03 | JDatTeTakere | I've found some old rules for Foxton and Shannon that said "7 days" - have deleted them and will test again. Thanks Liz :-) |
| 22:03 | eythian | cait: the general rule for those sorts of things is that the most specific should take precedence. |
| 22:03 | so you can have a default and then define your exceptions to that. | |
| 22:04 | cait | i think we say the same |
| 22:04 | maybe interpreting it differently? | |
| 22:04 | i would define a branch rule always more specific than an all items rule | |
| 22:04 | for the given branc | |
| 22:04 | h | |
| 22:05 | it's getting late again | |
| 22:05 | i better be quiet because probably mixing up things | |
| 22:05 | and i have to test my patch for the web installer... meh | |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea | I think it's that the branch default rule always overrides any limited default rule |
| 22:06 | eythian | define limited? |
| 22:07 | JDatTeTakere | Yes, that's what has happened. All fixed now. Happy testing @cait. |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | midway default default is more specific than all default default |
| 22:07 | so it gets used. | |
| 22:08 | so if you have all, book, default, midway book default overrides it | |
| 22:09 | and there are a couple of sysprefs that affect the rule behaviour as well - such as whether to use the item's home location or current location for rules | |
| 22:10 | eythian | kinda need a nice rules api with test cases for this sort of thing. |
| 22:11 | wizzyrea | yes. Yes we do. |
| 22:11 | without it it's hard to improve the rules. | |
| 22:12 | cait | yeah... so many things we shoudl do :( |
| 22:12 | dcook | ^^ |
| 22:20 | cait | wizzyrea: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=22989 |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea | yep, and people can edit them if they don't like it. |
| 22:21 | once they're in. | |
| 22:22 | * cait | sighs |
| 22:22 | cait | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c092469f4df#l2688 |
| 22:22 | hardcoded translations in a .pm file | |
| 22:43 | eythian | that's terribad |
| 22:43 | they even misspelt autumn | |
| 22:44 | I bet they think christmas time is in winter, too. | |
| 22:47 | cait | heh |
| 22:47 | let metake a look | |
| 22:47 | aah i see, what is better? | |
| 22:47 | wizzyrea | (they spelled it "Fall") |
| 22:47 | cait | fall or autumn? |
| 22:47 | is one british/american? | |
| 22:47 | wizzyrea | lol. |
| 22:47 | eythian | yeah |
| 22:47 | autumn is correct where I am :) | |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea | Fall would be correct for en/US |
| 22:48 | but autumn for en/NZ | |
| 22:48 | cait | eythian: feel free to fix bug 11262 so you can customize that bit ;) |
| 22:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11262 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Don't require hardcoded translations for saisonal numbering pattern to work |
| 22:48 | eythian | mm saison |
| 22:49 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saison <-- :) | |
| 22:49 | https://twitter.com/ShayneCurr[…]596201985/photo/1 | |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | saison actually speaks quite loudly to me - it says "Drink more" |
| 22:51 | the orangy, coriander-y, and gingery the better :P | |
| 23:05 | ibeardslee | montieths about to trademark that as well? |
| 23:08 | cait | wizzyrea: do you know how i have to enter a saional pattern? |
| 23:09 | i am trying a new subscription from january to decembe, 1/3 months, subscription length 4 issues | |
| 23:09 | butnot sure what to give for saison begins with and inner counter | |
| 23:10 | currently it gives me: spring 2013, summer 2014 :( | |
| 23:10 | eythian | you don't even like beer, cait. |
| 23:10 | and now you're talking about them. | |
| 23:10 | what is going on? | |
| 23:10 | cait | eythian: i am trying to get this right so i can sleep - be nice |
| 23:10 | * dcook | is so lost but beer! |
| 23:11 | eythian | dcook: saison is a Belgian-yeast-fermented type of beer. |
| 23:12 | * cait | feels lost |
| 23:12 | cait | help? |
| 23:12 | wahanui | help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. |
| 23:12 | * wizzyrea | reads |
| 23:12 | wizzyrea | sorry I had stepped away |
| 23:13 | ok let me check | |
| 23:14 | cait | i think i go tit |
| 23:14 | got it | |
| 23:14 | dcook | eythian: The wikipedia article was the one thing I understood ;) |
| 23:14 | wizzyrea | i am not certain I grok what you are getting at, but I am going to test it |
| 23:14 | cait | i had to add a 1 to Begins with |
| 23:14 | * dcook | read that as add a 1 to Belgians with |
| 23:14 | stops being a pain in the ass | |
| 23:14 | cait | now my second issue is still 2013 and april, like it should be |
| 23:14 | wizzyrea | Belgian Wit? Does that even make sense? |
| 23:14 | cait | you all are trying to make me go to sleep right? :) |
| 23:15 | eythian | wizzyrea: it totally makes sense |
| 23:15 | * wizzyrea | is not the beer scholar that eythian is |
| 23:15 | wizzyrea | it sounded right... |
| 23:16 | cait | oh weird. |
| 23:16 | grr. | |
| 23:17 | first time it startd with spring | |
| 23:17 | now it suddenly starts with summer? | |
| 23:17 | * wizzyrea | goes ahead and tries it |
| 23:18 | cait | ok, you have to make it a 0 |
| 23:18 | in both | |
| 23:18 | wizzyrea | what happens if you don't put anything |
| 23:19 | cait | let me see |
| 23:19 | emptying out both begin with now and saving, then editing again | |
| 23:19 | yep stays the same | |
| 23:19 | maybe i forgot to refresh the prediction pattern the first time | |
| 23:19 | wizzyrea | I think, with seasonal |
| 23:20 | you don't have to do anything with the advanced. | |
| 23:20 | cait | wizzyrea: can you try something for me? |
| 23:20 | the locale seems not to save :( | |
| 23:20 | wizzyrea | sure |
| 23:20 | cait | i picked de-DE on mine, did the prediction pattern test and was happy to see my translations show up, then saved, edited again and locale is empty |
| 23:20 | wizzyrea | but is it in the db |
| 23:20 | cait | also.... my locale is de_DE - so it doesn't fall back? |
| 23:21 | eythian | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witbier#Witbier <-- wizzyrea, you'd probably like Belgian witbier |
| 23:21 | cait | i will check |
| 23:21 | wizzyrea | I love belgian witbier. |
| 23:21 | wit is probably my favorite. | |
| 23:21 | cait | wizzyrea: hm it seems to be, but it doesn't hsow up on editing |
| 23:21 | filing a bug | |
| 23:21 | wizzyrea | yea, so that's a display thing |
| 23:22 | cait | but the prediction pattern is also wrong now |
| 23:22 | i will try to receive one to see if that works | |
| 23:22 | wizzyrea | hm mine, with nothing in, brand new sub, looks right |
| 23:22 | cait | nope |
| 23:22 | the generated one is enlgish | |
| 23:22 | rangi | bag: you around? |
| 23:23 | cait | heya rangi |
| 23:23 | wizzyrea | did we have locale before? |
| 23:23 | cait | nope |
| 23:25 | wizzyrea | and it is supposed to translate ... what |
| 23:25 | there's nothing in the help about it yet | |
| 23:25 | cait | nope |
| 23:25 | wizzyrea | i mean what's it supposed to do |
| 23:28 | cait | it will control which month names and seasons you get |
| 23:28 | i am trying to make it show german seasons, to test my patch | |
| 23:28 | but i thinmk it didn't like me saving and editing | |
| 23:28 | wizzyrea | theoretically it should only work with FR, because the only locales that are in the code are en and fr |
| 23:28 | cait | which isn't nice, but i will start with a new subscription and see if that works better |
| 23:28 | yeah, working on a patch | |
| 23:28 | wizzyrea | or did I read that wrong |
| 23:29 | cait | nope you read it right, but for month names the module they used offers more i think |
| 23:29 | only for seasons it has nothing so they added it in | |
| 23:31 | what i wonder... it doesn't fall back to my system locale | |
| 23:31 | because my system locale is de_DE | |
| 23:31 | and i ended up with english seasons | |
| 23:31 | wizzyrea | well you would, because there are no seasons defined for DE |
| 23:32 | so it's good that it fell back to en | |
| 23:32 | and didn't give you an icky error. | |
| 23:33 | cait | no it isn't good, because it means my change does not work :( |
| 23:33 | or that there is something else going wrong | |
| 23:33 | wizzyrea | oh, well yes, that part is not good. |
| 23:37 | cait | wizzyrea: i think with selecting de-DE it works, now i am going to leave it empty...keep fingers crossed? |
| 23:37 | i tink it gets grumpy when you edit after saving | |
| 23:37 | wizzyrea | hm could be. |
| 23:39 | cait | hm yeah |
| 23:39 | and that auto-detect thing doesn't seem to work | |
| 23:39 | but that's not so easy to test really hm. | |
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| 23:50 | cait | bug 11264 |
| 23:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11264 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add German seasons to serials |
| 23:50 | cait | not sure how this can be tested without a german os? |
| 23:53 | wizzyrea | I like your season words. |
| 23:53 | Herbst. | |
| 23:53 | awesome. | |
| 23:53 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, wizzyrea |
| 23:53 | * wizzyrea | gladly pays. |
| 23:54 | cait | hehe |
| 23:54 | thx :) |
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