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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:01 | ashimema | night #koha |
| 00:01 | dcook | night ashimema |
| 00:01 | Hope it worked out | |
| 00:02 | ashimema | I'll attack it again in the morning.. no good apssing out on the keyboard.. |
| 00:02 | think I worked out why the bulkmarcimport one failed at least.. not all my import records have a 035.. so the match query is not built.. | |
| 00:02 | dcook | Hmm, I doubt they should all need that though |
| 00:03 | ashimema | really I just want those records skipped.. but my brain didn't want to let me work out how to hack the script at this late hour. |
| 00:03 | * ashimema | thinks the scotch didn't help either |
| 00:03 | dcook | A good sleep will probably help :) |
| 00:03 | ashimema | ineed.. |
| 00:03 | see ya buddy. | |
| 00:03 | dcook | Have a good one |
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| 00:45 | pianohacker | Good night #koha |
| 00:50 | eythian | @later tell ashimema that's exactly what happens, if you have a match and don't have the field, it fails. That's why I don't use match. |
| 00:50 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:03 | eythian | I dislike how bulkmarcimport doesn't run in a transaction, so if something breaks, half your data is there, and half isn't. |
| 02:05 | also, a transaction would stop the problem with the reindex running while you're importing, as it wouldn't see anything new until everything was committed. | |
| 02:07 | ah, so if I add --commit with a big number, it'll do something sensible. | |
| 02:33 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:33 | jcamins | o/ |
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| 02:42 | * mtompset | grumbles about references. |
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| 03:11 | joels68 | Greetings once again. |
| 03:12 | Breaker 1 9, anybody got their ears on? | |
| 03:15 | druthb | Hi, Joel. :) |
| 03:16 | joels68 | Hi , ruth. |
| 03:17 | Just sharing some Citizens Band radio jargon, the twitter of the 1970s. | |
| 03:17 | druthb | I remember it well. :) |
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| 03:19 | joels68 | That's a big 10-4, good buddy. |
| 03:20 | druthb | joels68: it was good getting to meet you at KohaCon. :) |
| 03:21 | joels68 | Good meeting you too. I always enjoy meeting fun people. |
| 03:22 | druthb | bag and the other ByWaterians are fun people; I'm just weird. :P |
| 03:23 | mtompset++ #hacking on tests. | |
| 03:23 | mtompset | improving test coverage even! |
| 03:23 | Going from 1 test (does the library load) to actually making calls to all the functions in the library! | |
| 03:25 | eythian | if you wanna be really serious, find a coverage tool and get it to 100% on the module :) |
| 03:25 | * druthb | chuckles. |
| 03:26 | druthb | I was about to say "oh! cplint does that!" but that's an internal tool at cPanel. Silly Ruthie. That hot mess of a script does several things--tidys, and checks test coverage, couple of other things. |
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| 03:26 | jcamins | I use Devel::Cover. |
| 03:27 | druthb | (our Release Team is kind of fanatical about You Shall Cplint Your Code Before You Submit A Pull Request. So it's been on my mind lately.) |
| 03:32 | * druthb | wanders off to bed early tonight. |
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| 03:42 | bag | evening |
| 03:43 | dcook | hey ya bag |
| 03:46 | joels68 | howdy bag |
| 03:46 | bag | heya joels68 |
| 03:52 | I'm just watching walking dead the end of season 2... brutal show | |
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| 04:47 | WaylonR | whats a good template to build a new page on? |
| 04:48 | bag | a blank one? |
| 04:49 | joels68 | ;-) |
| 04:49 | WaylonR | hmm? with koha 3.0, i used maint, as that had basically no code etc except for the message. |
| 04:52 | joels68 | Have you looked at Bootstrap? |
| 04:52 | WaylonR | bootstrap? |
| 04:52 | wahanui | an up to date demo of the Bootstrap OPAC can be found at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz - it's tracking from oleonard's branch bootstrap-opac on gitorious. Bug reports should be filed on bug 10309. |
| 04:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 04:52 | WaylonR | this is a intranet page im working on. |
| 05:01 | bag | what's the goal WaylonR |
| 05:04 | WaylonR | to create a new 'edit member' section, called authentication rules. The concept is, borrowers can be authenticated/blocked by ip address range, or by virtuallhost and referrer. So, its a page, with a editable table on it. Got it in html:tmpl form, but now porting it to koha 3.xx, need to use tt. |
| 05:10 | ahh! | |
| 05:10 | members/notices.tt looks like a good template to start with. | |
| 05:10 | simple page with a table of notices on it. | |
| 05:10 | sweet | |
| 05:16 | bag | :) |
| 05:29 | WaylonR | what you think of the authentication rule concept, bag? |
| 05:30 | wahanui, who is bag? | |
| 05:30 | wahanui | I LIKE BASEBALL |
| 05:30 | WaylonR | .... |
| 05:31 | mtompset | How would that integrate with the LDAP stuff now? I think there is something like that already. |
| 05:33 | WaylonR | intergrate? I would think that the Authenrules checks would happen before LDAP, and if the rules say, 1, this user is userid, then LDAP authenication would get bypassed. Authrules only get checked if preference("authrule") is true. |
| 05:35 | mtompset | I'm not sure... and my brain is shutting off. It is past midnight here. |
| 05:35 | I may be turning into a pumpkin. :P | |
| 05:36 | WaylonR | Bed for you then, not sure. |
| 05:36 | mtompset? | |
| 05:36 | wahanui | hmmm... mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
| 05:36 | WaylonR | WaylonR? |
| 05:36 | wahanui | you are the 34rd developer of Koha, currently working for Mandumah.com, a digital library archive. Hes currently porting koha 3.0 modifications to Koha 3.10. So far so good, with one patch on bugzilla already. Bug 9055 |
| 05:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod |
| 05:46 | mtompset | Oh right... 9055 is what I was going to test later this week, right, WaylonR? |
| 05:47 | WaylonR | yes, mtompset |
| 05:47 | wahanui | well, mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
| 05:47 | WaylonR | shush, wahanui |
| 05:47 | wahanui | WaylonR: i'm not following you... |
| 05:47 | WaylonR | of course, because im not on facebook. :) |
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| 05:52 | * Oak | waves |
| 05:53 | Oak | time to sleep mtompset |
| 05:53 | magnuse | |
| 05:53 | @wunder islamabad | |
| 05:53 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 16.0°C (10:00 AM PKT on November 12, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:53 | mtompset | In this case, yes. I just posted a patch to bug 7567, and will work on cleaning it up tomorrow. |
| 05:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7567 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, ASSIGNED , News by Library: refactor, enhance, and fix |
| 05:53 | Oak | :) |
| 05:53 | sleep well. | |
| 05:54 | mtompset | Good to see you again, Oak. :) |
| 05:54 | Oak | mtompset++ |
| 05:54 | you too mtompset :) | |
| 05:54 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha Oak WaylonR bag dcook and other lurking types. :) |
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| 06:00 | dcook | morning cait |
| 06:00 | cait | morning dcook |
| 06:15 | * Oak | sends a KitKat to cait |
| 06:16 | cait | thx Oak :) |
| 06:16 | Oak | see how good that sounds :) |
| 06:17 | cait | heh |
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| 07:05 | WaylonR | how do the preferences editor work? you know, the ability to view, click to edit, then edit, then click save to save, mechanics? |
| 07:43 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:43 | magnuse | WaylonR: there is a mix of YAML and JavaScript that accomplishes that, i think |
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| 07:45 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:47 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:15 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 09:23 | Herwig | Hey Koha |
| 09:25 | i try to (want to) change a line in the output of our result page ... wanted to change the (or make one) xslt for that where do i find the default pages | |
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| 09:41 | ashimema | how was your koha installed? It differs depending upon install method |
| 09:58 | Herwig | packages |
| 09:58 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 10:00 | Herwig | 3.08 |
| 10:00 | magnuse | Herwig: look in /usr/share/koha/ |
| 10:00 | there are different folders there for opac and intranet | |
| 10:01 | Herwig | ok thx |
| 10:01 | magnuse | e.g. /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/ |
| 10:02 | /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/ | |
| 10:03 | ashimema | You'll want to make copies of the relevant files and use the syspref to point to them.. then update the copies.. else an upgrade will wipe out your modifications.. I think. |
| 10:03 | I'm no packages pro though... | |
| 10:04 | magnuse | sounds like good advice |
| 10:04 | Herwig | i start testing on my test server to not do anny disasters ;) thx for the info |
| 10:04 | ashimema | Good luck Herwig :) |
| 10:10 | kf | ashimema++ |
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| 10:49 | tcohen | morning kf |
| 10:56 | magnuse | kia ora tcohen |
| 10:56 | tcohen | hi magnuse! |
| 10:57 | magnuse | tcohen: isn't it very early for you? |
| 10:57 | tcohen | 7:57 |
| 10:57 | i'm up since 7 today | |
| 10:57 | magnuse | ah, ok |
| 10:57 | tcohen | kindof lazy usually |
| 10:57 | magnuse | hehe |
| 10:57 | tcohen | not today :-D |
| 10:58 | * magnuse | did not realize you are 2 hours ahead of new york... |
| 10:59 | tcohen | that's correct :-D |
| 10:59 | i'm starting to dig into the not-so-many packages-related bugs | |
| 11:01 | magnuse | i see 20 bugs related to packaging? |
| 11:02 | tcohen | i found 37 |
| 11:03 | magnuse | including enh? |
| 11:03 | tcohen | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]d=Packages-search |
| 11:03 | exactly | |
| 11:03 | magnuse | "The search named Packages-search does not exist." :-) |
| 11:04 | tcohen | oh, it is local to my user |
| 11:04 | magnuse | probably |
| 11:04 | tcohen | basically is all but closed/wontfix/invalid |
| 11:05 | magnuse | i excluded "pushed to master/stable" |
| 11:05 | * magnuse | wonders why localhost is still showing "It works!" after the default site has been disabled |
| 11:07 | tcohen | maybe you have nothing enabled |
| 11:08 | magnuse | no, my koha dev installation is enabled |
| 11:09 | tcohen | apache 2.4? |
| 11:10 | magnuse | 2.4.6 i think |
| 11:10 | on ubuntu recently upgraded to 13.10 | |
| 11:14 | tcohen | i ran into several problems until i got it running |
| 11:14 | (13.10 too) | |
| 11:15 | the most annoying was a "Forbidden" message | |
| 11:15 | related to a default config in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | |
| 11:16 | <Directory /> | |
| 11:16 | Options FollowSymLinks | |
| 11:16 | AllowOverride None | |
| 11:16 | Require all granted | |
| 11:16 | </Directory> | |
| 11:17 | (it is not safe, but got it working) | |
| 11:20 | magnuse | hm, i think i nailed part of it: files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ need to have a .conf suffix |
| 11:21 | because of how they are included in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | |
| 11:22 | i guess i accepted the new defaul config file(s) for apache when i did the upgrade | |
| 11:22 | tcohen | oh |
| 11:23 | I tried changing the includes line to match * instead of *.conf | |
| 11:23 | but a2ensite wouldn't like them without .conf | |
| 11:24 | ph, leaving to the office | |
| 11:24 | bbl! | |
| 11:24 | magnuse | see ya! |
| 11:35 | ...and there i ran into the problem tcohen was talking about... | |
| 11:35 | for the record: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2[…]ading.html#access | |
| 11:36 | we better be prepared for this when apache 2.4 comes to debian... | |
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| 12:07 | tcohen | morning #koha |
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| 12:11 | ashimema | morning tcohen |
| 12:12 | tcohen | hi ashimema |
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| 12:41 | kivilahtio | are there any architectural documents available for Koha? |
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| 13:17 | tcohen | is there something serials-specific in analytics code? |
| 13:17 | on koha-es some people are concerned that manuscripts analytics don't offer the same options/functionality | |
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| 13:31 | kf | tcohen: it depends on how you do analytics |
| 13:31 | and yes, if you use 001 currently the monograph doesn't show the link - you'd have to change the xslt | |
| 13:31 | i have to get to look into that at some point... just not sure how to solve | |
| 13:31 | maybe needs to be syspref driven (always or never show the link) | |
| 13:32 | tcohen | can't it be calculated on the presence of 001? |
| 13:33 | kivilahtio | you could check out bug 11175 |
| 13:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Show the parent records child records (aka. component parts) in the detailed views. |
| 13:33 | kf | jcamins: around? |
| 13:33 | jcamins | kf: yeah. |
| 13:34 | kivilahtio | tcohen: kf : This is my way of pushing the component relation to Koha, but I havent figured a way to force 001 == biblionumber for new bibliographic records |
| 13:34 | haven't taken a look at it either | |
| 13:36 | kf | the forcing is not the problem |
| 13:36 | tcohen: our records all have a 001 :) | |
| 13:36 | tcohen: and when you import records, they will have 001 from their source often, | |
| 13:36 | tcohen: the parent does not know about its children | |
| 13:37 | tcohen | we need a way to express that |
| 13:39 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 13:40 | kf | tcohen: anything on record level won#t work with our workflow |
| 13:40 | tcohen: there might be a way to link from parent to child in marc | |
| 13:40 | you'd have to check the 7xx fields i think | |
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| 14:38 | vfernandes | hello |
| 14:39 | i have too problems in my koha 3.12 UNIMARC installation: searching on any by barcode of callnumber isn't working and callnumber ordering isnt's working too | |
| 14:39 | *i have two problems | |
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| 14:42 | vfernandes | Bug 9830 |
| 14:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9830 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Some UNIMARC item indexes could be broken whith Queryweightfields syspref |
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| 14:47 | vfernandes | using indexes barcode and callnumber I can search, but using any not |
| 14:50 | using for example the barcode 01000014911 I get 0 results... using 01000014911* I get one result | |
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| 14:54 | kf | vfernandes: are you usng grs1 or dom indexing? |
| 14:54 | master? 3.12? | |
| 14:54 | ah 3.12 | |
| 14:54 | pastebot | "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Record in yaz client" (68 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/257 |
| 14:54 | vfernandes | dom indexing |
| 14:54 | wahanui | dom indexing is a lot faster than GRS-1. |
| 14:54 | kf | i think a lot of work went into unimarc indexing for 3.14 - but ther eare still some patches not tested and pushed |
| 14:55 | dom indexing for bibliographic data got only added for 3.14 | |
| 14:55 | I thin | |
| 14:55 | k | |
| 14:55 | there were patches about the item indexing | |
| 14:55 | vfernandes | no that's for authorities records |
| 14:55 | for biblio there is support in 3.12 | |
| 14:56 | look at this line : <z:index name="Any:w Any:p">0100001491105714ISCTE-IUL0MQ.103 FER*Aná (Res)2011-04-290AM_RESISCTE-IULISCTE</z:index> | |
| 14:56 | the barcode 01000014911 appears | |
| 14:56 | so it should be searchable without * | |
| 14:57 | jcamins | vfernandes: looks like there are spaces missing. |
| 14:57 | vfernandes | how I can add the spaceS? |
| 14:58 | jcamins | I am not sure. |
| 14:58 | vfernandes | in record.abs the line is all any |
| 14:58 | jcamins | DOM doesn't use record.abs. |
| 14:58 | It uses the other files in that directory. | |
| 14:59 | vfernandes | biblio-koha-indexdefs and biblio-zebra-indexdefs |
| 14:59 | jcamins | Right. |
| 15:00 | vfernandes | but there isn't any entry for "all" |
| 15:00 | jcamins | The index is "Any" |
| 15:02 | pastebot | "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Any index" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/258 |
| 15:02 | "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Any index" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/259 | |
| 15:02 | jcamins | Yup. Apparently that needs to add spaces. |
| 15:02 | I do not know how to do that. | |
| 15:05 | vfernandes | anyone know how to do it? |
| 15:07 | kf | vfernandes: i think you shoudl cross check in a 3.14 database -it hink item indexing got fixes |
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| 15:17 | jcamins | Fennel! We're getting fennel! :D |
| 15:17 | rambutan | watcha gonna do with fennel? |
| 15:18 | jcamins | Probably caramelize it. |
| 15:20 | rambutan | I wonder if there's such a thing as French Fennel Soup (à la French Onion Soup) |
| 15:23 | kf | fennel and onion are not really the same tho |
| 15:23 | jcamins | No, but I can see it making a good soup. |
| 15:23 | * kf | prefers salad... or maybe caramelized |
| 15:24 | jcamins | Yeah, I like the salad best of all, but we're only getting one fennel. |
| 15:25 | kf | ouch |
| 15:27 | oleonard | I don't think I know what fennel tastes like |
| 15:28 | jcamins | Licorice, but good. |
| 15:28 | If you can imagine that seeming contradiction. | |
| 15:28 | * oleonard | can't :P |
| 15:28 | kf | hm more aniseed to me |
| 15:29 | oleonard | I don't think can get it in stores here... maybe at the farmer's market |
| 15:29 | jcamins | kf: I figure if oleonard hasn't tasted fennel he probably hasn't tasted anise either. |
| 15:29 | kf | oleonard: you shoudl really try fennel :) |
| 15:31 | rambutan | maybe I'll grow some fennel next year and send jcamins two. |
| 15:32 | http://www.jungseed.com/dp.asp?pID=02415 | |
| 15:34 | oleonard | "Also called Finocchio" ? |
| 15:35 | The celery who dreamed of being a real boy. | |
| 15:35 | jcamins | lol |
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| 16:11 | druthb | o/ |
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| 16:20 | vfernandes | kf and jcamins... problem solved |
| 16:20 | i've looked up to 3.14 files | |
| 16:21 | and done two changes | |
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| 16:25 | rambutan | http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/linux-voice/ <- interesting |
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| 16:27 | kf | bye all - it's sushi time :) |
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| 16:28 | rambutan | sushi time |
| 16:30 | vfernandes | the callnumber ordering is still not working :/ |
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| 16:53 | reiveune | bye |
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| 18:15 | magnuse | \o |
| 18:20 | jcamins: my fave fennel receipe is similar to this: http://ouritaliantable.com/201[…]l-dish-of-sicily/ | |
| 18:21 | jcamins | Interesting. |
| 18:21 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 18:21 | jcamins | We don't have any sardines. |
| 18:21 | magnuse | except i cook the fennel, instead of sauteing |
| 18:21 | i use canned sardines | |
| 18:22 | jcamins | By cook you mean bake? |
| 18:23 | magnuse | nah, sorry boil |
| 18:23 | "koke" (boil) in norwegian = cook in my head ;-) | |
| 18:23 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 18:23 | Got it. | |
| 18:23 | magnuse | and it works without sardines too |
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| 18:43 | martian523 | hi, i noticed there's a tiny problem with "item type". When new titles come in, I would put them as "New Books". After a while we would pull them down and change the status to "Books". What I've noticed is that these books are still in the "New Books" list, but when I clicked on the title, the status is already changed to "books" |
| 18:43 | Is there a way to fix it? | |
| 18:44 | jcamins | martian523: can you explain more clearly what the problem is? |
| 18:44 | When you say "New Books list," do you mean you create an actual list? | |
| 18:46 | Because that sounds like it's working the way it's supposed to. | |
| 18:49 | martian523 | o, sorry, not list |
| 18:50 | item type is new books | |
| 18:50 | so i would put new titles as "new books" as item type | |
| 18:51 | when they're no longer "new books", i would change the item type to "books" | |
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| 18:52 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 18:52 | magnuse | hiya mtompset |
| 18:52 | mtompset | Greetings, magnuse. |
| 18:53 | martian523 | however, if i search by "new books", these books still exist as "new" |
| 18:53 | jcamins | Okay. I see. |
| 18:53 | And you waited ten minutes after making the change? | |
| 18:53 | (for the indexer to catch up) | |
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| 18:53 | martian523 | we did the change yesterday |
| 18:53 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 18:54 | And you changed the item type on the item or the biblio? | |
| 18:54 | martian523 | i checked both, they're "books" |
| 18:54 | jcamins | Hrm. |
| 18:57 | martian523 | o, by the way, i just asked my staff |
| 18:58 | the status of these titles were changed back a long time ago | |
| 18:58 | but still appearing in "new books" | |
| 19:03 | jcamins | Odd. How are you searching for new books? |
| 19:03 | Checking the item type in advanced search? | |
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| 19:33 | martian523 | yep |
| 19:33 | sorry for the late replies | |
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| 20:11 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 20:11 | remember string freeze is approaching for stable | |
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| 20:18 | * cait | waves |
| 20:20 | rambutan | waves |
| 20:23 | cait | hi rambutan |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | rambutan: I recall when we were initially looking at digitisation solutions, that I thought Omeka would be better for purpose, but I was overruled due to it's lack of social features by the Tech Coordinator at the time. |
| 20:24 | sorry that conversation started ages ago. :P | |
| 20:25 | rambutan | yea, well, it's still an interesting conversation |
| 20:26 | I've tried DSpace and Greenstone, didn't care much for GS, and have subsequently defaulted to DSpace, but Omeka is newerish and never appeared on my radar before | |
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| 20:27 | rangi | morning |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | yeah and now there's islandora too. |
| 20:27 | mornin rangi | |
| 20:27 | rambutan | something about kete when we have it a brief spinup made me think it would be good for documenting "verbal histories" (think there's a better term for that which escapes me at the moment) |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | narratives? |
| 20:27 | rambutan | s/have/gave |
| 20:28 | yea, that works | |
| 20:28 | afternoon rangi | |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Omeka is really quite different from DSpace, IMO, though. |
| 20:28 | rambutan | how so? |
| 20:28 | * wizzyrea | saw that on a list of "words that ought to be banned from use due to recent overuse" |
| 20:28 | rambutan | in design, or in functionality? |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | i.e. it's buzzwordy |
| 20:28 | jcamins | What? "IMO"? |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | yes, he probably wants to know why you hold that opinion :) |
| 20:29 | jcamins | wizzyrea: no, that was a question for you. |
| 20:29 | rambutan: DSpace is repository-oriented, whereas Omeka is exhibition-oriented. | |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | oh, no. Narratives. |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | I was calling myself out on buzzword usage :P |
| 20:30 | yayee. | |
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| 20:37 | rambutan | http://omeka.org/blog/2010/09/21/omeka-and-peers/ <- reading now |
| 20:40 | omeka certainly has an attitude of "We're better than everybody else". | |
| 20:41 | rangi | they are both last century ideas |
| 20:41 | imho | |
| 20:41 | neither of them work well for growing/changing things .. they work well for 'finished' | |
| 20:42 | jeff | rangi: "both" in this context is still DSpace / Greenstone? |
| 20:43 | rangi | yep |
| 20:43 | altho i dont like omeka either but for different reasons | |
| 20:44 | jcamins | I like the idea of Omeka. |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | I do too. |
| 20:44 | jeff | we use omeka for our local history site, but i haven't had my hands in it much. |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | the execution is mmmm it's alright I gues.s |
| 20:45 | jeff | the idea of a repository feeding omeka is appealing to me, mostly because i think the repository might have something to add when it comes to keeping the original full-resolution stuff "safe". |
| 20:45 | but that might be a bad way of thinking. :-) | |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | a proper repository is important. |
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| 20:47 | jeff | for some libraries, "bunch of files in a directory writeable by www-data but with good backups" in omeka might be enough. it might be better than "set up / get access to a full-on repository and feed omeka or similar with that" |
| 20:48 | rangi | *nod* |
| 20:48 | i think it creates bad habits | |
| 20:48 | jeff | "better" in the sense that they can do it faster, iterate, add better backend later. |
| 20:48 | but "worse" in the sense that they may never add that better backend, and the backups may never be tested. :-) | |
| 20:49 | rangi | exacterly, and no versioning |
| 20:50 | jcamins | portsnap update |
| 20:50 | Oops. | |
| 20:50 | Wrong window, worry. | |
| 20:53 | talljoy | gmcharlt http://tinyurl.com/mp2u63c <-This just saved my life. Thanks!!! |
| 20:53 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 20:53 | rambutan | omeka uses quicktime movies for all its screencasts. Won't play on my Linux. |
| 20:54 | minus points | |
| 20:55 | even vlc won't play them | |
| 20:56 | jcamins | rambutan: surely a version soon will add support for HTML5. |
| 20:59 | mtompset | @later tell papa I can't reproduce errors using origin/master related to the opac-MARCdetail.pl code you patched for bug 11183. Can you give an example screen shot of something that triggers an error? |
| 20:59 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:01 | mtompset | @later tell papa Ah, success! Found a case. |
| 21:01 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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| 22:05 | martian523 | sorry, i'm back |
| 22:05 | so no solution for my problem? | |
| 22:07 | cait | martian523: what are your itemtype codes? |
| 22:07 | i have only seen some of the discussions in the logs | |
| 22:08 | and what's the exact search you are using? | |
| 22:08 | martian523 | i use advanced search, click on item type "new books", then search |
| 22:09 | cait | yes, but what is your itemtype code defined in administration? |
| 22:09 | martian523 | itemtype code... |
| 22:09 | hold on | |
| 22:10 | nbk | |
| 22:10 | nbk for new book | |
| 22:10 | bk for books | |
| 22:14 | and it seems like this happened only for 18 titles. the switch for other new books to books are ok | |
| 22:15 | cait | hmm |
| 22:16 | maybe not reindexed right? but i don't know why that would happen | |
| 22:17 | martian523 | yeah, kinda interesting. the ones we updated yesterday seems to be doing fine |
| 22:17 | these 18 titles were updated a while back | |
| 22:18 | cait | you could try changing something in the record |
| 22:18 | see if the change gets picked up | |
| 22:19 | martian523 | ok, i'll try that. |
| 22:20 | thanks! | |
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