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| 00:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cea239cc849d2c09a> |
| 00:10 | busla joined #koha | |
| 00:10 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d32e1849265782530> / Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e962e590d74baa749> / Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt <http:// |
| 00:10 | wahanui | Hmm. No matches for that, huginn. |
| 00:30 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c12b99dbd6341fc43> / Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]249d98f9fe29cde1f> / Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/g |
| 00:31 | * wizzyrea | just noticed the forward/back in the intranet. |
| 00:31 | wizzyrea | good work! |
| 00:32 | mtompset | forward/back? |
| 00:36 | Jwellner joined #koha | |
| 00:39 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #205: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/205/ |
| 00:39 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Cataloging Help | |
| 00:39 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Serials Help | |
| 00:39 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Tools Help Files | |
| 00:39 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Admin Help Files | |
| 00:39 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files | |
| 00:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update |
| 00:39 | jenkins_koha | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Acq Help Files |
| 00:39 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files [ FOLLOW-UP ] | |
| 00:39 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record | |
| 00:39 | * Liz Rea: Bug 10776: fix awkward wording in subscription notification screen | |
| 00:39 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8307: Set a value for subfields when receiving | |
| 00:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters |
| 00:39 | jenkins_koha | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8307: QA Followup for finishreceive.pl |
| 00:39 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9044: (follow-up) fix merge conflict typo that broke this script | |
| 00:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Subscription notification screen has awkward wording |
| 00:39 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: DBrev 3.13.00.041 |
| 00:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving |
| 00:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Allow to select items on catalogue/detail.pl and trigger actions | |
| 00:39 | jcamins | wizzyrea: thanks! |
| 00:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #206 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 18 hr ago) |
| 00:40 | wizzyrea | jcamins that was your one? |
| 00:40 | I like it :) | |
| 00:40 | there's a lot to like in pi | |
| 00:40 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]36e54092972c97f65> |
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| 00:45 | jcamins | wizzyrea: yep. |
| 00:45 | talljoy | i like pie |
| 00:46 | apple | |
| 00:46 | cherry | |
| 00:46 | shoofly | |
| 00:46 | Jwellner | pumpkin is coming up :) |
| 00:46 | talljoy | mmmm..... |
| 00:46 | wahanui | hmmm... mmmm is right :) |
| 00:46 | talljoy | i'm really hungry, i guess you can tell |
| 00:46 | jcamins | talljoy: we have some sweet potato pie in the freezer. |
| 00:47 | Jwellner | making some spanish rice with beans and veggies right now... |
| 00:47 | Oooo... sweet potato pie... nom | |
| 00:47 | talljoy | i'd like to go to dinner, but i fear mowing down innocent trick-o-treators in the street |
| 00:47 | sweet potato anything! | |
| 00:47 | Jwellner | Drive faster :) |
| 00:47 | talljoy | fries, baked, souffle, |
| 00:47 | faster, heh | |
| 00:47 | i really want sushi and a martini | |
| 00:47 | Jwellner | sounds good too |
| 00:48 | * wizzyrea | had perhaps too much tempura for lunch #urp |
| 00:48 | talljoy | lol |
| 00:48 | tempura before sushi....yiiss.....sounds good. | |
| 00:49 | Jwellner | oh sure... now my machine at work finishes backing up... after 2 days... |
| 00:49 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 00:49 | talljoy | that's a lot of data |
| 00:52 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]815a8812e12c32bc1> / Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e957333620efc73eb> |
| 00:53 | Jwellner | lots of little files going to a sinology... |
| 00:53 | synology | |
| 00:54 | RAID wasn't happy about it I guess... | |
| 00:55 | Mavericks didn't like my mail.app having 8 gmail accounts on it.. :) | |
| 00:56 | talljoy | i can barely keep up with 2 emails, let alone 8! |
| 00:56 | ashimema | anyone here understand the syntax for the bulkmarkimport script when using -match? |
| 00:56 | talljoy | i don't use the match on bulkmarcimport |
| 00:57 | Jwellner | a lot of them are reporting accounts for the imaging system, raid card... and after this weekend, Koha :) |
| 00:57 | talljoy | ashimema: what are you matching on? |
| 00:57 | ashimema | nor do I usually.. |
| 00:57 | wanting to match 035 subfield a | |
| 00:58 | trying to sort out a borked load ;).. why is it people always find a bunch of missing stuff months after the original work.. | |
| 00:58 | talljoy | i know. |
| 00:59 | ashimema | So.. the syntax I tried was 'bulkmarcimport.pl -t -b -match 035a -v -file Results/bibl.mrc -v >Logs/load_bibl_fix.log' |
| 01:00 | which seems to match the perldoc.. but unfrotunately I just get: Use of uninitialized value $recorddata in pattern match (m//) at /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 441, | |
| 01:00 | from that. | |
| 01:00 | hmm | |
| 01:00 | have a feeling I'm going to have to resort to the code :% | |
| 01:01 | talljoy | i can't tell precisely what it wants but did you try it without the subfielda? --match 035 |
| 01:01 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1493: SUCCESS in 1 hr 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1493/ |
| 01:01 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: Add MARC Modifications Templates | |
| 01:01 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: (follow-up) fix copy and move if subfields don't exist. | |
| 01:01 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) move from the Koha to the C4 namespace | |
| 01:01 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: (follow-up) trap exceptions thrown by SetUTF8Flag() | |
| 01:01 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) fix various issues (squashed patch) | |
| 01:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8015 new feature, P4, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add MARC Modifications Templates |
| 01:01 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: Add unit tests for SimpleMARC and MarcModificationTemplates routines |
| 01:01 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) add user permissions to all languages | |
| 01:01 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) remove references to C4::Koha::Log | |
| 01:01 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: QA Followup | |
| 01:01 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: QA Followup 2 | |
| 01:01 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: DBRev 3.13.00.040 | |
| 01:01 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes | |
| 01:01 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) update stage_file.pl | |
| 01:01 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) don't require userenv | |
| 01:01 | Starting build #1494 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 01:04 | ashimema | am just about to ;) |
| 01:05 | same error unfortunately.. | |
| 01:06 | and now the servers I'm working on seems ot have just slowed to a crawl. | |
| 01:06 | right.. think that's a sign it's bedtime. | |
| 01:06 | thanks for your thoughts anyways talljoy | |
| 01:07 | talljoy | my reading of the perldoc looks like it wants the indexname,matchpoint so --match 035indexname,035a ?? |
| 01:07 | ashimema | ahh.. that makes sense.. |
| 01:08 | talljoy | i always wish they would give specific examples on some of these. |
| 01:08 | ashimema | now i re-read it that make very good sense |
| 01:08 | now i feel like a muppet.. looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right :p | |
| 01:09 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 01:09 | Jwellner | :) |
| 01:09 | gmcharlt | as the neural interface to the fine manual is still awaiting signoff... |
| 01:10 | ashimema | I'm gonna blame my misreading on it being late.. it's late here.. honest. |
| 01:10 | talljoy | i was just thinking that. |
| 01:11 | it's late here too. | |
| 01:11 | of course, time being irrelevant in #koha as someone is always here and it's morning somewhere | |
| 01:12 | ashimema | that is indeed very true.. |
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| 01:13 | ashimema | think I may leave working out what that first param actually needs to be untill the morning.. indexname may make more sense to me on a night sleep ;) |
| 01:14 | talljoy | true that. |
| 01:14 | i'm headed out for a late dinner. trick or treaters be dammed. i'm hitting the road. | |
| 01:15 | lock up the children, i'm heading out. | |
| 01:22 | ashimema | Just in case anyone ever goes through the logs looking for the answer to my question above.. the correct syntax was: bulkmarcimport.pl -t -b -match Local-number,035a -v -file Results/bibl.mrc -v >Logs/load_bibl_fix.log |
| 01:22 | but I had to enable the Local-number index first.. seems to be commented out in zebra config for 3.10.6 | |
| 01:22 | sure there's a reason.. but I can't remember why.. | |
| 01:22 | right.. | |
| 01:23 | nighty night #koha | |
| 01:28 | mtompset | @quote add <ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P |
| 01:28 | huginn | mtompset: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 01:28 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #206: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/206/ |
| 01:28 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates | |
| 01:28 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: restrict the ability to delete a bib record associated with an order | |
| 01:28 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: (follow-up) suppress line feeds in javascript | |
| 01:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9218 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , intranet cart email broken for non english templates |
| 01:28 | jenkins_koha | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt |
| 01:28 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format. | |
| 01:28 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term solution | |
| 01:28 | * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 7684: multiple fixes for inventory | |
| 01:28 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: QA Followup and bugfixes | |
| 01:28 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix crash when generating the CSV | |
| 01:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9780 major, P4, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Restrict the right to suppress a record used in some order |
| 01:28 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc |
| 01:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9374 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In baskets, prices between 0 and 1 are displayed in red |
| 01:28 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export |
| 01:28 | * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices | |
| 01:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7684 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , inventory : datatable fix actions etc. |
| 01:28 | jenkins_koha | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page |
| 01:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match |
| 01:28 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11033 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In basketgroup pages, Save button and Cancel link are hidden by chooselanguage bar | |
| 01:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #207 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 19 hr ago) |
| 01:29 | mtompset | @quote add <ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P |
| 01:29 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. Quote #283 added. |
| 01:29 | mtompset | @quote get 278 |
| 01:29 | huginn | mtompset: Quote #278: "jcamins: ... OMGOMGOMG MUST FIX ALL THE THINGS." (added by mtompset at 03:50 AM, September 17, 2013) |
| 01:29 | mtompset | @quote get 279 |
| 01:29 | huginn | mtompset: Quote #279: "eythian:steep learning curves are good, because it means in a short time you learn a lot. It's the shallow ones that are bad because over a long time you learn very little." (added by mtompset at 04:06 AM, September 26, 2013) |
| 01:30 | mtompset | @quote get 280 |
| 01:30 | huginn | mtompset: Quote #280: "<oleonard> Κοηα?" (added by gmcharlt at 02:15 PM, October 25, 2013) |
| 01:30 | mtompset | @quote get 281 |
| 01:30 | huginn | mtompset: Quote #281: "cait thinks renewable karma makes a lot of sense" (added by gmcharlt at 05:38 PM, October 28, 2013) |
| 01:30 | mtompset | @quote get 282 |
| 01:30 | huginn | mtompset: Quote #282: "mtompset: there will always be bugs, until the length of code is 0." (added by wizzyrea at 09:12 PM, October 29, 2013) |
| 01:30 | mtompset | Ah, okay. I didn't realize I got quote added. |
| 01:32 | eythian | @quote search mtompset |
| 01:32 | huginn | eythian: 4 found: #208: "<mtompset> Tonight... I tango with git.", #215: "mtompset> So would a Fire Weasel be a...", #259: "<mtompset> What have I found?! The horror! The...", and #282: "mtompset: there will always be bugs, until the..." |
| 01:33 | mtompset | Hmm... I don't remember the Fire Weasel one. |
| 01:34 | eythian | @quote random |
| 01:34 | huginn | eythian: Quote #233: "<oleonard> How about Now that she's three my daughter has terrible authority control" (added by gmcharlt at 05:06 PM, February 14, 2013) |
| 01:34 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 01:35 | mtompset | she? |
| 01:35 | wahanui | she is here |
| 01:35 | mtompset | Now that she? |
| 01:36 | eythian | you're applying far too much semantics to wahanui. |
| 01:37 | mtompset | I am just wondering what in the quote triggered wahanui to say that it had it that way. |
| 01:39 | Well, now that I re-read the context for the Fire Weasel, at least my comment was coherent. :) | |
| 01:39 | Jwellner | Ahh... nothing like kicking the UBoat captain off her computer when she's away to get the data... |
| 01:40 | eythian | mtompset: it's doing some sort of match on 'she's' and turning it in to she is, but I don't think that works completely, so getting it out again may not be possible. |
| 01:41 | oh actually, maybe not | |
| 01:41 | mtompset | How about now? |
| 01:41 | wahanui | now is, like, good time with holidays coming up |
| 01:41 | * mtompset | grins. |
| 01:42 | mtompset | Right about now? |
| 01:42 | wizzyrea | How about Now that? |
| 01:42 | wahanui | i heard Now that was a christmas party |
| 01:42 | wizzyrea | lol :) |
| 01:42 | eythian | I could dump the database and check, but I'd have to take wahanui offline to do that, so I won't :) |
| 01:42 | mtompset | No need. |
| 01:43 | wizzyrea | wahanui's a winner. |
| 01:43 | mtompset | Guessing randomly can be a source of amusement, as long as it isn't floody. |
| 01:43 | The funk? | |
| 01:44 | No suprise that wahanui is not sharing in my musical flash back. | |
| 01:48 | Dyrcona joined #koha | |
| 01:48 | Dyrcona1 joined #koha | |
| 01:49 | Dyrcona1 | Umm, weird... |
| 01:49 | wahanui | weird is normal after a while :) |
| 01:49 | Dyrcona1 | Yes. Yes, it is. We're all mad here. |
| 01:50 | Jwellner | lol :) |
| 01:50 | Dyrcona joined #koha | |
| 01:51 | Jwellner | problems with your evil twin again? |
| 01:51 | mtompset | Can we blame verizon? ;) |
| 01:51 | Dyrcona | Maybe we can blame Verizon. |
| 01:51 | It's like two instances of my IRC client started. | |
| 01:52 | Maybe we should blame Ubuntu? | |
| 01:53 | Jwellner | let's just go for broke and blame the NSA |
| 01:53 | Dyrcona | Oddly enough, I've been researching writing some crypto software tonight. |
| 01:54 | mtompset | Shhh.... they're listening. :P |
| 01:54 | Did you know that cryptographic algorithms are considered munitions? | |
| 01:54 | Jwellner | it isn't listening... it's trick or treating... |
| 01:55 | Dyrcona | In the USA they are, and in France, IIRC, you're supposed to get a license to use them. |
| 01:55 | Jwellner | i know there were export restrictions but labeling them like that is interesting... |
| 01:55 | Dyrcona | Or at least, you used to be. |
| 01:55 | The USA is messed up. I oughta know, I live there. | |
| 01:55 | jcamins | Dyrcona: to do what? |
| 01:56 | Dyrcona | jcamins: I've been having problems with duplicity using scp/sftp with paramiko and pexpect backends, ssh-agent, tmux, etc. |
| 01:56 | I'm trying to remotely back up 300GB of files via duplicity to a server in San Diego. | |
| 01:56 | jcamins | Yikes. |
| 01:57 | Dyrcona | I expect it to take a few days, but the process dies every now and then. |
| 01:57 | Despite all the suggestions on the web, ssh-agent does not work with tmux. | |
| 01:57 | So, I thought I'd write a duplicity-alike in C. | |
| 01:58 | jcamins | I use ssh-agent with tmux. |
| 01:58 | Jwellner | why not rsync via ssh? |
| 01:58 | eythian | how does that work? |
| 01:58 | as soon as you created a new session, the old one wouldn't work | |
| 01:58 | unless it was smart and tunneled the agent through itself | |
| 01:58 | which would be _very_ smart and something I could get behind. | |
| 01:59 | Dyrcona | my ssh-agent usually dies very soon after detaching and logging out. |
| 01:59 | Jwellner: duplicity also encrypts the files before doing the rsync with ssh. | |
| 01:59 | I don't own the server where I'm sending the files, so I want to symmetrically encrypt them as well. | |
| 02:00 | Jwellner | Ooo... very nifty :) |
| 02:00 | eythian | symmetric? Or public? |
| 02:00 | I use gpg for encrypting remote backups | |
| 02:00 | (and make sure the key is safe somewhere else.) | |
| 02:00 | Dyrcona | duplicity does symmetric. |
| 02:01 | i have some other files that I backup using tar, gpg and scp. | |
| 02:01 | 300GB is a bit much to put in a tarball, so i like that duplicity splits them up into chunks. | |
| 02:02 | plus duplicity handles incremental backup. | |
| 02:09 | Jwellner | very cool... will need to keep this tool in mind... :) |
| 02:18 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #207: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/207/ |
| 02:18 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list | |
| 02:18 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref | |
| 02:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11132 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The results list is reset on adding a biblio to a list |
| 02:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving | |
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| 02:28 | mtompset | Dyrcona: You could 'split' the tarball manually. ;) |
| 02:30 | Dyrcona | uh-huh.... 300GB into 25MB files... 12,000 tar commands and a carpal tunnel syndrome diagnosis later..... ;) |
| 02:33 | mtompset | no... the split command. |
| 02:33 | 1 tar file, 1 split command. | |
| 02:34 | I agree that 12,000 files gets unwieldy, but it makes for rsync-able files. :) | |
| 02:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d3e09797dc4c1fdb0> |
| 02:36 | Dyrcona | I suppose, but wonder what happens when I run out of disk space. |
| 02:37 | If it is all done on the same drive, then I'd have the original files, the tar file, the split tar files, then the encrypted copies... | |
| 02:38 | Of course, the split files could be encrypted, deleted, sent, and then the encrypted version deleted. | |
| 02:39 | Too bad hardware isn't free. ;) | |
| 02:41 | Jwellner | Depends on where you have rich uncles that have surplus :) |
| 02:42 | Good hardware, perhaps not... :) I picked up a pair of 16TB arrays today on surplus for work... not sure what to do with them yet, but I'll find them a home :) | |
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| 02:43 | Dyrcona | Well, the backups are being done from a computer with an Atom processor, 2GB of RAM, and just under 1TB of disk space on two drives. |
| 02:44 | Jwellner | A souped up netbook? |
| 02:46 | Dyrcona | No, one of these: http://www.cappuccinopc.com/buddie-d525.asp |
| 02:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #208 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 20 hr ago) |
| 02:47 | Jwellner | oh that's a neat little box... :) |
| 02:48 | Dyrcona | Yeah, I've used several as network sniffers, a router, and a small office file server. |
| 02:48 | Jwellner | I was just thinking the network sniffers and such... |
| 02:48 | especially with the GigE on board... | |
| 02:49 | Dyrcona | Yeah, one of my coworkers uses one as a wireless access point at home. |
| 02:50 | Jwellner | sweet :) |
| 02:50 | Dyrcona | I use one at home instead of my ISP's router. |
| 02:50 | Jwellner | I worked with a Buffalo for that job... |
| 02:50 | and a Synology for most my other disk stuff | |
| 02:51 | it replicates my 200GB music library pretty well from a sister unit at work. | |
| 02:55 | mtompset | Hmmm... original files, tar it (double), encrypt the tar (3.5x), delete the tar (2.5x), split the encrypted tar (4.0x) ... as long at the original files don't take more than 20% (need to leave lee-way), should barely fit. :) |
| 02:56 | Actually, our backup system uses a mountable encrypted file system on the destination. | |
| 02:57 | Dyrcona | mtompset: I wouldn't trust splitting the encrypted file. |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1494: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1494/ |
| 02:58 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Cataloging Help | |
| 02:58 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Serials Help | |
| 02:58 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Tools Help Files | |
| 02:58 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Admin Help Files | |
| 02:58 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Acq Help Files |
| 02:58 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files [ FOLLOW-UP ] | |
| 02:58 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record | |
| 02:58 | * Liz Rea: Bug 10776: fix awkward wording in subscription notification screen | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8307: Set a value for subfields when receiving |
| 02:58 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8307: QA Followup for finishreceive.pl | |
| 02:58 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9044: (follow-up) fix merge conflict typo that broke this script | |
| 02:58 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: DBrev 3.13.00.041 | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Subscription notification screen has awkward wording |
| 02:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving | |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates |
| 02:58 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: restrict the ability to delete a bib record associated with an order | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Allow to select items on catalogue/detail.pl and trigger actions |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: (follow-up) suppress line feeds in javascript |
| 02:58 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9218 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , intranet cart email broken for non english templates |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format. |
| 02:58 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term solution | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9780 major, P4, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Restrict the right to suppress a record used in some order |
| 02:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9374 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In baskets, prices between 0 and 1 are displayed in red | |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 7684: multiple fixes for inventory |
| 02:58 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: QA Followup and bugfixes | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7684 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , inventory : datatable fix actions etc. |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix crash when generating the CSV |
| 02:58 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc | |
| 02:58 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export | |
| 02:58 | * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page |
| 02:58 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list | |
| 02:58 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11033 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In basketgroup pages, Save button and Cancel link are hidden by chooselanguage bar |
| 02:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11132 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The results list is reset on adding a biblio to a list | |
| 02:59 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1495 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1493 3 hr 53 min ago) |
| 02:59 | mtompset | Me neither, Dyrcona. Just thinking of a hypothetical way of doing it, not necessarily the best way. |
| 03:00 | we rsync over ssh between vm's and the destination has a mounted encrypted directory which we mount to backup and unmount upon completion... very narrow window of data stealing. :) | |
| 03:14 | Dyrcona | yeah. I use plain rsync over ssh when I control the endpoints. In this case, I don't control one. |
| 03:15 | The backup company also strongly encourages their customers to encrypt their files before sending them to the server. | |
| 03:17 | mtompset | Could you do an intermediate stop-over? |
| 03:18 | One that gets it to a secondary point and encrypted somehow (such as a mounted encrypted FS) | |
| 03:18 | and then use the secondary point to push the encrypted files to the final destination? | |
| 03:19 | perhaps mount an encrypted FS on the first machine, and instead of tar'ing... rsync to the encrypted FS point. | |
| 03:19 | unmount the point. | |
| 03:20 | rsync the encypted files to the destination. | |
| 03:20 | Dyrcona | Well, I don't want to put my personal stuff on the servers owned by the non-profit where I work during the day. |
| 03:22 | I'm not sure that really buys me much, plus I'd rather have the incremental features for these files, since 300GB is a lot to send over every time something changes. | |
| 03:22 | Granted, these files don't change that often. | |
| 03:23 | I think using librsync, openssl or libgcrypt, libssh, or libssh2, I should be able to implement what I want. | |
| 03:25 | It would make for an interesting little project. | |
| 03:27 | Plus, I could have fun adding support for vcdiff, bsdiff, and other algorithms. | |
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| 03:36 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 03:36 | Project master_maria build #208: FIXED in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/208/ | |
| 03:36 | Galen Charlton: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test | |
| 03:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt |
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| 03:40 | Dyrcona | Of course, since I started it again a few hours, duplicity has picked up where it left off and is chugging away a the files. |
| 03:40 | should be an "ago" in there somewhere. :) | |
| 03:40 | Oh well, as my daughter used to say, "Nighttime, bed." | |
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| 04:24 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
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| 04:53 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 04:53 | Project Koha_master build #1495: FIXED in 1 hr 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1495/ | |
| 04:53 | Galen Charlton: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test | |
| 04:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt |
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| 06:51 | * Oak | waves |
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| 07:20 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:21 | magnuse | build fixed! woohoo! \o/ |
| 07:22 | * cait | waves tiredly |
| 07:34 | * magnuse | sends cait some coffee |
| 07:36 | cait | thx |
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| 08:06 | petter | good morning koha |
| 08:28 | cait | good morning petter :) |
| 08:40 | magnuse | hiya petter |
| 08:40 | petter | heisann! |
| 08:40 | magnuse | morndu! |
| 08:44 | * magnuse | wishes someone would put bug 6554 out of it's misery |
| 08:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates |
| 08:45 | cait | i think tcohen has some ideas about this one |
| 08:45 | we should ask him when he shows up :) | |
| 08:46 | petter | yes, it really bugs me too |
| 08:46 | It seams particullary to be a problem with the latin1 subset | |
| 08:46 | including norwegian characters æøå | |
| 08:46 | cait | i think colin fixed another issue some days ago |
| 08:46 | petter | It looks like text sometimes get double encoded |
| 08:47 | cait | where it seems part of latin1 was the problem? |
| 08:49 | petter | cait: do you know which bug his fix is? |
| 08:49 | cait | hmm i can find it, but not totally sure it#s related or helpful, so don't be disappointed |
| 08:51 | bug 11054 | |
| 08:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters |
| 08:55 | petter | thanks! |
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| 09:49 | petter | is there a good reason not to have all koha files in UTF-8? |
| 09:49 | ashimema | waking up to poor rancid milk on my shreddies. This will be a thing of the paste when my new fridge arrives! |
| 09:50 | petter | I don't know Perl, but in other languages like Python & Ruby encoding problems are solved by having UTF-8 everywhere |
| 09:50 | bug 6654 really bugs me! | |
| 09:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6654 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, [security] Authentication issues |
| 09:50 | petter | bug 6554 i mean |
| 09:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates |
| 09:51 | cait | ashimema: morning :) |
| 09:51 | petter | god morning |
| 09:51 | good morning | |
| 09:51 | let's kep God out of it | |
| 09:52 | magnuse | lol |
| 09:53 | petter: yeah, i'd say everything ought to be utf-8, but then i'm far from being an expert... | |
| 09:53 | ashimema | Morning all. |
| 09:53 | magnuse | so you see files that are not? |
| 09:53 | hiya ashimema | |
| 09:54 | ashimema | petter, magnuse.. likewise.. I'de go with everything should be in utf-8 |
| 09:54 | petter | yes most of the files are ASCII actually |
| 09:54 | and a few are utf-8 encoded | |
| 09:55 | just go into a template directory for example | |
| 09:55 | ashimema | interesting.. never noticed that before. |
| 09:55 | petter | and to |
| 09:55 | ls | xargs file | |
| 09:55 | you'll see ASCII text mostly, and sometimes UTF-8 unicode | |
| 09:56 | ashimema | by jove |
| 09:58 | magnuse | yeah, that looks really random |
| 09:58 | i have no idea what the implications are, though | |
| 09:59 | petter | me neither |
| 10:01 | kivilahtio | lol I got the child records working! Also found a bug from our child record data migration tool |
| 10:01 | our database jumped from 350 000 to 1 100 000 :) | |
| 10:01 | records | |
| 10:01 | had to do some virtual guest restructuring to facilitate that :D | |
| 10:01 | petter | congratulations! |
| 10:01 | kivilahtio | this is SO big! |
| 10:01 | petter | :) |
| 10:01 | cait | it is |
| 10:02 | kivilahtio | 62.148.106.91/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=20396 |
| 10:02 | there is a issue with the returning link from child record to the parent record | |
| 10:02 | it makes a funny zebra query based on everything else than the parents $001 | |
| 10:03 | this is odd | |
| 10:03 | 001 should be forced to match the biblionumber in DB | |
| 10:03 | also those title, author searches dont work for us | |
| 10:04 | ashimema | kivilahtio: lol.. at the moment there's no way to do that (force 001 to match biblionumber) |
| 10:04 | kivilahtio | I mean when you try to access the parent record from hte child record, we get no search results |
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| 10:04 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I made that possible in 6113 |
| 10:04 | bug_6113 | |
| 10:04 | ashimema: regarding bibliographic data migration tho | |
| 10:05 | ashimema: but what real barriers there are for that? | |
| 10:05 | * ashimema | goes to find the bug. |
| 10:05 | cait | kivilahtio: also it can't be forced by default |
| 10:05 | we have wonderful 001 i won't give up for a biblionumber | |
| 10:05 | kivilahtio | cait: Wee when you create a new record how is the 001 defined? |
| 10:05 | ashimema | should be a syspref... but I know we'de love it. |
| 10:05 | magnuse | bug 6113 |
| 10:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6113 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, In Discussion , enhancement to keep previous ids |
| 10:05 | cait | all our records are from a union catalog and they contain the numbers anduse them for linking |
| 10:06 | kivilahtio | but hte Koha cataloguing tool doesnt add any 001 |
| 10:06 | cait | no it doesn't |
| 10:06 | kivilahtio | this is a big issue regarding child record linking |
| 10:06 | ashimema | your in a pretty privileged position there cait |
| 10:06 | cait | just saying we need a flexible solution here |
| 10:06 | :) | |
| 10:06 | yep | |
| 10:06 | i know | |
| 10:06 | kivilahtio | cait I understand your point |
| 10:06 | ashimema | needs to be syspref driven.. |
| 10:06 | magnuse | bug 9921 |
| 10:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, In Discussion , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber |
| 10:06 | kivilahtio | bug 11175 already has a ystem preference should the child record data be injected to the xslt transformation source xml |
| 10:06 | cait | ok |
| 10:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Show the parent records child records (aka. component parts) in the detailed views. |
| 10:07 | cait | please someone send me packing? |
| 10:07 | magnuse | cait: go packing! |
| 10:07 | kivilahtio | I can write the XSLT default templates to have 001 link optionally |
| 10:07 | cait | magnuse: i know you are not really mean... |
| 10:07 | kivilahtio | actually that was just what I was about to do |
| 10:08 | but 001 is not the same as biblionumber | |
| 10:08 | magnuse | there is a syspref related to that, i think |
| 10:08 | cait | kivilahtio: hm, they already fall back if there is no link? |
| 10:08 | kivilahtio | this is so bad |
| 10:08 | magnuse: really? | |
| 10:08 | cait | if there is no $w subfield, then it falls back to a search |
| 10:08 | kivilahtio | cait: I understand now what you mean with union catalog |
| 10:08 | cait: well it doesnt fall back for me | |
| 10:09 | cait: I always get the search even if $773w is present | |
| 10:09 | cait | oyu have to turn on UseControlNumber |
| 10:09 | magnuse | "UseControlNumber [Use/Don't use] record control number ($w subfields) and control number (001) for linking of bibliographic records." not sure if you could/should reuse that |
| 10:10 | kivilahtio | lol I thought I set it on?!? |
| 10:10 | There is a ghost in our Koha system := | |
| 10:10 | now it works | |
| 10:10 | ashimema | UseControlNumber and EasyAnalytics are very different sysprefs and seem to be pretty misunderstood. |
| 10:10 | cait | and not compatible with each other i think |
| 10:10 | ashimema | haha.. glad you got it working |
| 10:10 | yeah.. they're not really compatible. | |
| 10:11 | we deffo need to put mutual exclusiveness into the syspreffs. | |
| 10:11 | is there a bug for that open yet cait? | |
| 10:11 | kivilahtio | just found a bug related to UseControlNumber |
| 10:11 | cait | for the mutual exclusiveness? |
| 10:11 | kivilahtio | our records have only $773, $7 = nn && $w = 9326 |
| 10:11 | cait | hm, not that I am aware of... but my brain ran out of memory for the bug database |
| 10:11 | kivilahtio | this doesnt work |
| 10:11 | needs to be more data to make the link | |
| 10:12 | cait | you need a link text |
| 10:12 | $t i think | |
| 10:12 | kivilahtio | cait: ah yeah that was it |
| 10:12 | now I remeber | |
| 10:12 | I was supposed to fix it to our data migrationtool :) | |
| 10:12 | ashimema | you need an upgrade cait |
| 10:12 | magnuse | i think tcohen was working on some sanity checks for sysprefs |
| 10:12 | cait | i do. |
| 10:12 | kivilahtio | I think it is a good practice to include them when you introduce new sysprefs |
| 10:14 | ashimema | hmm.. if we're getting picky about linking.. really we should be ensuring uniqueness of 001+003 as apposed to just 001 (for mark21 at least).. and then linking upon that.. |
| 10:14 | but at the moment we don't ;) | |
| 10:14 | magnuse | and there is the "System information" tab under "About Koha" |
| 10:15 | cait | ashimema: yeah, but sitll good thinking |
| 10:17 | ashimema | magnuse: what was that related to.. I don't follow? |
| 10:17 | kivilahtio | ashimema: what do you mean with 001 + 003? |
| 10:18 | cait | 001 + 003 are a pair |
| 10:18 | 003 defines the source of the 001 | |
| 10:18 | ashimema | 001 - Record Control Number, 003 - Control Number Identifier |
| 10:18 | kivilahtio | cait: ah |
| 10:18 | who cares? | |
| 10:18 | ashimema | haha.. cait beat me to it. |
| 10:18 | kivilahtio | :) |
| 10:18 | cait | so when you download records from different catalogs that include 001 they don't overlap |
| 10:19 | kivilahtio | understood |
| 10:19 | cait | ashimema: but your answer was more perfect :) |
| 10:19 | magnuse | ashimema: mutual exclusiveness of sysprefs |
| 10:19 | cait | ashimema: I will show you a trick :) |
| 10:19 | @marc 001 | |
| 10:19 | huginn | cait: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] |
| 10:19 | cait | @marc 003 |
| 10:19 | huginn | cait: The MARC code for the organization whose control number is contained in field 001 (Control Number). [] |
| 10:19 | magnuse | huginn++ |
| 10:20 | kivilahtio | huginn++ |
| 10:20 | ashimema | huggin is awesome! |
| 10:20 | kivilahtio | btw what IDE do you use for Perl developing |
| 10:20 | how do youo debug Koha and make new devs? | |
| 10:20 | how about git? | |
| 10:20 | cait | geany - mostly a text editor |
| 10:20 | kivilahtio | you just use command line git? |
| 10:20 | cait | command line |
| 10:20 | ashimema | vim ;) |
| 10:21 | cait | lol |
| 10:21 | okok, you win | |
| 10:21 | ashimema | though i've been thinking of moving to a proper IDE for a while.. never found one for perl i've been happy with. |
| 10:21 | kivilahtio | ashimema: try Eclipse + EPIC |
| 10:21 | ashimema | yup.. command line git.. |
| 10:21 | kivilahtio | ashimema: or Komodo IDE |
| 10:21 | magnuse | gedit + command line git for me |
| 10:21 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I am using Komodo IDE 8.5 and it is superb |
| 10:21 | ashimema | if you're on windows/mac you could use atlasian's sourcetree.. I hear great things about it all the time. |
| 10:22 | i tired padre and exlipse+epic | |
| 10:22 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I can emulate CGI-calls and run an active debugger through whole Koha |
| 10:22 | ashimema | not tried komodo |
| 10:22 | nice | |
| 10:22 | kivilahtio | ashimema: That is INSANELY powerfull, brings lots of java-like debugging features |
| 10:22 | not code hot-swap | |
| 10:22 | but otherwise pretty good | |
| 10:23 | I couldn't use those for Evergreen, I tried hard, but the system was just structured in a really difficult way | |
| 10:23 | but For Koha! Bam, my productivity has easily tripled | |
| 10:24 | btw gotta go and pay my Komodo licence for this year, 300€ | |
| 10:25 | ashimema | may have to try it out.. |
| 10:26 | hmm.. not doing much coding though at the moment :(.. a 21 day trial would be a waste right now. | |
| 10:27 | cait | i think the word license will scare lots of people around #koha off |
| 10:34 | * magnuse | installs geany |
| 10:41 | ashimema | snap |
| 10:50 | magnuse | ? |
| 11:04 | cait | it's just an editor |
| 11:04 | with a nice icon | |
| 11:05 | magnuse | well, it seems to be a bit more advanced than gedit, with projects etc |
| 11:05 | but when i have tried for 10 minutes to create a koha project, without success, i kind of give up on it... | |
| 11:06 | cait | ah, i don't work with a project |
| 11:06 | i just use it as an editor heh | |
| 11:11 | ashimema | wow.. just finished reading the comments on all those bugs.. there's allot going on in the sequential number space.. hadn't realised. |
| 11:12 | magnuse | yeah, sadly it seems to have stalled the 001 = biblionumber thing a bit, i think? |
| 11:15 | ashimema | yeah.. kinda. |
| 11:16 | though I'm actually in the camp of I'de live to see it based upon sequence number as opposed to actually keep 001 = biblionumber.. | |
| 11:17 | I would also love to see a bug that implements the full spec of linking to 001+003 as an addition to the options we've already got of link on 001 OR link on biblionumber. | |
| 11:18 | cait | ashimema: i think the linkings should still work if you also use 003 |
| 11:18 | so cataloguing like hat should be oki | |
| 11:18 | just nothing automatic | |
| 11:19 | i mean it doesn't break if you do $w(003)001 | |
| 11:19 | which would be the standard | |
| 11:19 | ok, leaving now - have a nice weekend everyone :) | |
| 11:22 | ashimema | Hmm.. think I need to test that.. maybe it's changed since I last tried it out. |
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| 11:52 | * cait-m_ | waves |
| 11:53 | * magnuse | waves to cait-m_ |
| 11:54 | cait-m_ | hm wonder why the underscore keeps happening |
| 11:57 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 11:57 | huginn | cait-m_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.3°C (12:55 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
| 11:58 | cait-m_ | chilly |
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| 12:13 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 12:13 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 23.0°C (5:00 PM PKT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:16 | ashimema | @wunder london |
| 12:16 | huginn | ashimema: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 12:17 | ashimema | are there any doc out there for our bots? |
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| 12:43 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:47 | magnuse | ashimema: i guess there are many londons |
| 12:47 | @wunder london, uk | |
| 12:47 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 14.0°C (12:20 PM GMT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
| 12:48 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 12:48 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (1:20 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:48 | magnuse | airport codes work too :-) |
| 12:51 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 12:51 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 15.0°C (9:00 AM ART on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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| 12:57 | cait-m_ | @wunder haigerloch |
| 12:57 | huginn | cait-m_: The current temperature in Rottenburg, Germany is 8.7°C (1:48 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:58 | ashimema | indeed |
| 12:59 | magnuse | rottenburg?!? ;-) |
| 12:59 | cait-m_ | what? |
| 13:00 | might be the closest weather station | |
| 13:00 | magnuse | a rotten burg? that does not sound too nice |
| 13:04 | ashimema | hmm.. I'm playing with sandboxes.. I wonder if I can get them to work with a package install and koha-gitify |
| 13:08 | cait-m_ | smells nicer ten rotorua |
| 13:08 | ashimena: trying to set up your own? | |
| 13:09 | magnuse | cait-m_: that is good to hear :-) |
| 13:11 | ashimema | yep.. I had a go when they were introduced at last years kohacon.. didn't get especially far.. but I've been given the go ahead to have another go |
| 13:12 | magnuse | cool |
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| 13:16 | cait-m_ | :) |
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| 13:18 | ashimema | the only piece I can see there being issues with so far for packages is the call to updatedatabase.pl |
| 13:18 | I'm not exactly sure how packages handle this. | |
| 13:19 | hmm. the calls to rebuild zebra may also need minor modification.. though I'm not sure. | |
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| 13:20 | magnuse | ashimema: look at debian/scripts/koha-upgrade-schema |
| 13:21 | ashimema | cheers magnuse |
| 13:21 | cait-m_ | there are some things sandboxrd cant handle yet i think |
| 13:21 | ashimema | yeah.. a fari few things I think.. |
| 13:21 | another reason another pair of eyes can only be good ;) | |
| 13:26 | cait-m_ | :) |
| 13:26 | Barrc | Howd'y. Does anyone have any thoughts on why Koha checks in an item that has a hold on it before asking the staff what to do with it? |
| 13:26 | as opposed to asking first, then checking it it!? | |
| 13:27 | cait-m_ | why should it not check ot in? |
| 13:28 | jcamins | Barrc: because if it asked first, the book would still be on the previous patron's record. |
| 13:28 | Barrc | Well, it's not that it shouldn't check it in, it's just that it might always want to check it in! |
| 13:29 | It's casuing me problems with SIP to be honest. SIP gets a return code back to say the book has been checked in from AddReturn | |
| 13:29 | cait-m_ | if someone checks in abook its returnef |
| 13:29 | Barrc | It makes it difficult to stop the SelfCheck transaction happening, as well, it's already happened!" |
| 13:29 | cait-m_ | phone typoeing |
| 13:29 | why do you want to stop it? | |
| 13:30 | Barrc | Because the returning borrower is putting into a shelving trolloy and the hold notice is never being triggered. |
| 13:30 | It effectivly makes Holds usless. | |
| 13:31 | cait-m_ | our libraries just go abd pick thrm up |
| 13:31 | they show up in holds to pull | |
| 13:31 | and we have a report to list the items with holds on the cart | |
| 13:31 | Barrc | Yeah, the workflow is different in this library, and not how it happened on "...their old system" !!! |
| 13:32 | cait-m_ | well |
| 13:32 | ashimema | sounds more of a sip issue than a checkin issue |
| 13:32 | cait-m_ | koha is not their old system |
| 13:32 | Barrc | If fairness, they do have a point. It was the same for transits too, I had to change the logic their too! |
| 13:32 | ashimema: But SIP calls the same routine as a normal checking | |
| 13:33 | there is no way, at present, to differentiate between the two. | |
| 13:33 | cait-m_ | i think as a patron it would annoy me to have to return books with holds sep |
| 13:34 | but check bugzilla there was some discussion about holds handlong a while ago | |
| 13:35 | Barrc | cait-m: I agree. However, I can see an argument for having an option. At the moment it is possible for an item to be checked in at, say 13:00 shelved at 13:10 and checked out again, even with a hold on it! |
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| 13:35 | cait-m_ | sorry client died |
| 13:37 | Barrc | The only way I can think of is adding a SystemPref for all things SIP (which should be implemented anyway , I think) then passing an extra argument to the various methods indicating SIP or Staff etc.... |
| 13:38 | which will be a nightmare! | |
| 13:44 | magnuse | anyone using gather_print_notices.pl? |
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| 13:48 | magnuse | i'm getting: print() on closed filehandle $OUTPUT at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/gather_print_notices.pl line 129. |
| 13:49 | cait-m_ | sorry tested ages ago but not using it |
| 14:06 | magnuse | ah, i was trying to write the file to a dir i did not have permissions on... (or rather, since i was using koha-shell, the koha_instance user did not have permissions) |
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| 14:10 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 14:17 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:17 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #119: "<wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/b[…]8_nepali_food.jpg" (added by wasabi at 10:22 AM, January 27, 2011) |
| 14:18 | * gmcharlt | blinks |
| 14:18 | druthb | lulz |
| 14:18 | gmcharlt | MOVING ON! |
| 14:23 | mtompset | http://youtu.be/MMR5JVo21wQ |
| 14:25 | tcohen | :-D |
| 14:26 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:27 | gmcharlt | mtompset++ |
| 14:27 | * druthb | sings, "Movin' right along, dubby-dub-dubby-dub…" |
| 14:30 | rambutan | I hope the image of a skinned red pig clears my mind before lunch. I hope also the same for druthb and gmcharlt. Skinned red pig. |
| 14:30 | gmcharlt | rambutan: you're not helping! ;) |
| 14:30 | rambutan | no? |
| 14:31 | @wunder 64507 | |
| 14:31 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 6.1°C (9:31 AM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:37 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 14:37 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 18.9°C (9:37 AM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:46 | tcohen | has anyone experienced problems git recent git versions 1.8.x and previously working gitolite setups? |
| 14:47 | mtompset | Sorry. :( |
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| 15:08 | mtompset | http://idibon.com/the-weirdest-languages/ |
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| 15:13 | jcamins | I am so glad I always carry extra socks. |
| 15:23 | gmcharlt | tcohen: I have not, but for obvious reasons, I'll be interested to hear details |
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| 15:58 | gmcharlt | are there any UNIMARC users around who would be interested in smoke-testing installation of the beta tarball? |
| 16:21 | ashimema | so.. remind me.. whose the master of the sandbox's ? I'm having issues with setting my system up for it. |
| 16:23 | aha.. I'm an idiot.. I left 'mysql_database_name' in the cron instead of replacing it with the actualy database name! | |
| 16:23 | gmcharlt | create database mysql_database_name... |
| 16:23 | ;) | |
| 16:25 | talljoy | has anyone used an open source 'digital library' that they can recommend? |
| 16:28 | jcamins | talljoy: presumably rangi would recommend Kete, if that's what you mean. |
| 16:28 | rambutan | DSpace |
| 16:28 | talljoy | i thought of that ;-) |
| 16:28 | Dspace is the other i thought of. | |
| 16:28 | Vudl ? | |
| 16:28 | druthb | I worked with DSpace in a prior life. |
| 16:28 | jcamins | I didn't like DSpace when I tried it out. |
| 16:28 | Fedora seemed much more promising. | |
| 16:28 | Less clunky. | |
| 16:29 | talljoy | i need something that will take high res images and be able to zoom in and around. |
| 16:29 | jcamins | Greenstone was just unpleasant. |
| 16:30 | druthb | In early incarnations, Fedora was just the object-store framework, and you had to bolt everything onto it. The Fedora team cleverly realized this put them behind DSpace on the adoption curve, even with DS being so clunky and evil and (at that time) married to QDC format. |
| 16:30 | talljoy | vudl is now fedora is it not jcamins |
| 16:31 | rambutan | I also cannot recommend greenstone, although it might have improved in the 4 years since I previously used it |
| 16:31 | jcamins | talljoy: it's a front end, yeah. |
| 16:32 | I've heard people swear by Islandora, too, as a front end. | |
| 16:33 | talljoy | thansk jcamins |
| 16:33 | good info all. Thanks! | |
| 16:34 | rambutan | I thought that at one time DSpace and Fedora were going to merge. This page -> http://www.duraspace.org/web_seminars has some DSpace cf. Fedora webinars at the bottom |
| 16:34 | jcamins | talljoy: of course, if all you need is an image viewer, you might be able to just stick an image viewer JS widget on top of Koha. |
| 16:36 | rambutan | there's clearly some collaboration still going on: "DuraSpace news highlights DSpace and Fedora community information." http://www.dspace.org/duraspac[…]raspace-blog.html |
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| 16:39 | jcamins | I ask you: what is the point of arranging a bibliography by author main entry, and including a main author index, but not a title index? |
| 16:40 | rambutan | trying to save paper costs? |
| 16:41 | jcamins | rambutan: in that case, don't print a fifty page index that just repeats the order of the bibliography. |
| 16:42 | Or publish it as an ebook. | |
| 16:42 | rambutan | ah |
| 16:43 | jcamins | My initial thought was saving paper as well, then it struck me that if they really wanted to save paper, they wouldn't have printed an index that provided no new information. |
| 16:48 | ashimema | ack.. how would: Run->new( qq|mysql -e "drop database $databasename;create database $databasename;"| ); |
| 16:48 | ever work. | |
| 16:49 | surely you need a mysql username/password somewhere in there.. | |
| 16:50 | talljoy | i would think so |
| 16:51 | ashimema | the sandbox code executes the above somehow on biblibres servers I assume.. wondering now if the contrib git is up to date with their stuff. |
| 16:51 | maybe they don't set mysql root passwords? | |
| 16:52 | gmcharlt | hmm |
| 16:52 | ashimema | anyone know whose in charge of their sandbox servers?.. i can see lots of commiters against contrib |
| 16:52 | gmcharlt | it's not clear to me if we set a firm date for elections for 3.16 roles |
| 16:56 | but I guess by timing and custom, it's either going to have to be the next general meeting, scheduled for 11/6, or a special mid-November meeting | |
| 17:06 | cait-m_ | its on the agenda i think |
| 17:06 | nengard | hey all - do we have a bug/enhancement about tabbing through pull down menus in Koha? |
| 17:06 | sounds familiar and I don't want to report a new one | |
| 17:06 | but I can't find the old one (if there is one) | |
| 17:06 | jcamins | nengard: with bootstrap the arrow keys work. |
| 17:06 | You mean on the staff client, right? | |
| 17:06 | nengard | k- pre-bootstrap and yes |
| 17:07 | jcamins | I think it just works in 3.12+. |
| 17:07 | cait-m_ | it shoukd i think |
| 17:08 | nengard | k |
| 17:08 | thanks | |
| 17:17 | gmcharlt | cait-m_: indeed it is -- good enough |
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| 17:50 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #103 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #98 24 days ago) |
| 17:58 | magnuse | ashimema: i think paul_p has done a lot of work on the sandboxen |
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| 18:30 | magnuse | make pizza |
| 18:30 | oops, wrong window ;-) | |
| 18:30 | jcamins | magnuse: you have an IRC channel that takes instructions like that? |
| 18:30 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #103: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/103/ |
| 18:30 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: include fine details when printing a fine | |
| 18:30 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) tidy members/printinvoice.pl | |
| 18:30 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) improve display of fine details on printed invoice | |
| 18:30 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10619 - fix errors in sco.css for the CCSR OPAC templates | |
| 18:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10027 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Fine details not showing when printing a fine |
| 18:30 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9943: activate "Pay selected" button only when at least one fine is selected |
| 18:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10619 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , sco.css missing for CCSR OPAC templates |
| 18:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9943 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Pay fines page "Pay selected" button give invalid amount when nothing is selected | |
| 18:38 | magnuse | jcamins: nah, i was aming for my terminal, where i just unzipped pizza_ingredients-2.0.zip |
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| 19:02 | mtompset | @later tell tcohen I posted some of my test results for bug 10003. |
| 19:02 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:09 | rambutan | @seen jcamins |
| 21:09 | huginn | rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <jcamins> magnuse: you have an IRC channel that takes instructions like that? |
| 21:10 | jcamins | o/ |
| 21:10 | rambutan | the FF offline circ module--where does the transaction file live, or what is the name of it? |
| 21:11 | and when is it deleted, at the next download of records? | |
| 21:11 | jcamins | It is stored in the browser's indexeddb, and transactions are kept until they've been uploaded. |
| 21:11 | rambutan | hummm, 'k |
| 21:12 | jcamins | So if you don't upload transactions, they will hang around for months, and then confuse you terribly when you try to test other things and get a handful of transactions from six months ago. |
| 21:12 | gmcharlt | a minor enhancement idea occurs |
| 21:13 | "You appear to have been very dilatory about uploading your offline circulation transaction. Are you /quite/ sure about this?" | |
| 21:13 | ;) | |
| 21:13 | Jeeves accent optional | |
| 21:13 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 21:15 | rambutan | the issue we're addressing is that a nervous bookmobile person is ready to upload records, and hasn't kept a separate manual record as usual, and wants to backup the transaction record on the computer before uploading |
| 21:16 | jcamins | rambutan: http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]eddb-files-stored |
| 21:17 | If you copy the indexedDB directory out, you can always put it back in. | |
| 21:30 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.14-beta is available for download and testing. Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 6th November, 02:00 UTC | |
| 21:30 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e29b4963c9350ea20> / DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0cfa5c96ed185821e> |
| 21:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #209 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) |
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| 21:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1496 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 22:02 | rambutan | you know, the koc sql sometimes creates a lock file that can screw things up, I haven't quite figured out what does it when uploading transactions |
| 22:20 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #209: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/209/ |
| 22:20 | * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta | |
| 22:20 | * Galen Charlton: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta | |
| 22:23 | nengard | :) |
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| 22:25 | ChilhoweeLibrar | I have a few questions and was wondering if someone can answer them for me |
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| 23:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1496: SUCCESS in 1 hr 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1496/ |
| 23:27 | * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta | |
| 23:27 | * Galen Charlton: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta | |
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| 23:30 | Jwellner | @drnoe hi |
| 23:30 | huginn | Jwellner: I suck |
| 23:31 | drnoe | howdy jwellner |
| 23:31 | Jwellner | Geez... that's what I get for being rusty with my IRC... |
| 23:31 | How are you doing David? | |
| 23:32 | drnoe | pretty good. just updating little things whilst waiting on the data. you? |
| 23:34 | Jwellner | Getting ready to do the extraction |
| 23:35 | drnoe | right on. just let me know. I will work on getting ready tonight and liekly load it in the morning. |
| 23:38 | pianohacker | saml-- |
| 23:38 | I need something like | |
| 23:38 | self check | |
| 23:38 | self check? | |
| 23:38 | dammit wahanui | |
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| 23:44 | joels68 | NAMES [#koha] |
| 23:44 | Hello. | |
| 23:48 | @wunder Worthington MN | |
| 23:48 | huginn | joels68: The current temperature in Worthington, Minnesota is 7.0°C (6:35 PM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa. |
| 23:51 | joels68 | @info |
| 23:51 | huginn | joels68: Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info". |
| 23:53 | joels68 | @recent |
| 23:53 | huginn | joels68: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
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