IRC log for #koha, 2013-11-01

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00:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cea239cc849d2c09a>
00:10 busla joined #koha
00:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d32e1849265782530> / Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e962e590d74baa749> / Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt <http://
00:10 wahanui Hmm.  No matches for that, huginn.
00:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c12b99dbd6341fc43> / Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]249d98f9fe29cde1f> / Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/g
00:31 * wizzyrea just noticed the forward/back in the intranet.
00:31 wizzyrea good work!
00:32 mtompset forward/back?
00:36 Jwellner joined #koha
00:39 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #205: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/205/
00:39 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Cataloging Help
00:39 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Serials Help
00:39 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Tools Help Files
00:39 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Admin Help Files
00:39 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files
00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update
00:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Acq Help Files
00:39 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files [ FOLLOW-UP ]
00:39 * Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record
00:39 * Liz Rea: Bug 10776: fix awkward wording in subscription notification screen
00:39 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8307: Set a value for subfields when receiving
00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters
00:39 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8307: QA Followup for finishreceive.pl
00:39 * Galen Charlton: Bug 9044: (follow-up) fix merge conflict typo that broke this script
00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Subscription notification screen has awkward wording
00:39 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: DBrev 3.13.00.041
00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving
00:39 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Allow to select items on catalogue/detail.pl and trigger actions
00:39 jcamins wizzyrea: thanks!
00:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #206 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 18 hr ago)
00:40 wizzyrea jcamins that was your one?
00:40 I like it :)
00:40 there's a lot to like in pi
00:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]36e54092972c97f65>
00:43 ibeardslee joined #koha
00:45 jcamins wizzyrea: yep.
00:45 talljoy i like pie
00:46 apple
00:46 cherry
00:46 shoofly
00:46 Jwellner pumpkin is coming up :)
00:46 talljoy mmmm.....
00:46 wahanui hmmm... mmmm is right :)
00:46 talljoy i'm really hungry, i guess you can tell
00:46 jcamins talljoy: we have some sweet potato pie in the freezer.
00:47 Jwellner making some spanish rice with beans and veggies right now...
00:47 Oooo... sweet potato pie... nom
00:47 talljoy i'd like to go to dinner, but i fear mowing down innocent trick-o-treators in the street
00:47 sweet potato anything!
00:47 Jwellner Drive faster :)
00:47 talljoy fries, baked, souffle,
00:47 faster, heh
00:47 i really want sushi and a martini
00:47 Jwellner sounds good too
00:48 * wizzyrea had perhaps too much tempura for lunch #urp
00:48 talljoy lol
00:48 tempura before sushi....yiiss.....sounds good.
00:49 Jwellner oh sure... now my machine at work finishes backing up... after 2 days...
00:49 wizzyrea !
00:49 talljoy that's a lot of data
00:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]815a8812e12c32bc1> / Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e957333620efc73eb>
00:53 Jwellner lots of little files going to a sinology...
00:53 synology
00:54 RAID wasn't happy about it I guess...
00:55 Mavericks didn't like my mail.app having 8 gmail accounts on it.. :)
00:56 talljoy i can barely keep up with 2 emails, let alone 8!
00:56 ashimema anyone here understand the syntax for the bulkmarkimport script when using -match?
00:56 talljoy i don't use the match on bulkmarcimport
00:57 Jwellner a lot of them are reporting accounts for the imaging system, raid card... and after this weekend, Koha :)
00:57 talljoy ashimema: what are you matching on?
00:57 ashimema nor do I usually..
00:57 wanting to match 035 subfield a
00:58 trying to sort out a borked load ;).. why is it people always find a bunch of missing stuff months after the original work..
00:58 talljoy i know.
00:59 ashimema So.. the syntax I tried was 'bulkmarcimport.pl -t -b -match 035a -v -file Results/bibl.mrc -v >Logs/load_bibl_fix.log'
01:00 which seems to match the perldoc.. but unfrotunately I just get: Use of uninitialized value $recorddata in pattern match (m//) at /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migr​ation_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 441,
01:00 from that.
01:00 hmm
01:00 have a feeling I'm going to have to resort to the code :%
01:01 talljoy i can't tell precisely what it wants but did you try it without the subfielda?  --match 035
01:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1493: SUCCESS in 1 hr 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1493/
01:01 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: Add MARC Modifications Templates
01:01 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: (follow-up) fix copy and move if subfields don't exist.
01:01 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) move from the Koha to the C4 namespace
01:01 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: (follow-up) trap exceptions thrown by SetUTF8Flag()
01:01 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) fix various issues (squashed patch)
01:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8015 new feature, P4, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add MARC Modifications Templates
01:01 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: Add unit tests for SimpleMARC and MarcModificationTemplates routines
01:01 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) add user permissions to all languages
01:01 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) remove references to C4::Koha::Log
01:01 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: QA Followup
01:01 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: QA Followup 2
01:01 * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: DBRev 3.13.00.040
01:01 * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes
01:01 * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) update stage_file.pl
01:01 * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) don't require userenv
01:01 Starting build #1494 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:04 ashimema am just about to ;)
01:05 same error unfortunately..
01:06 and now the servers I'm working on seems ot have just slowed to a crawl.
01:06 right.. think that's a sign it's bedtime.
01:06 thanks for your thoughts anyways talljoy
01:07 talljoy my reading of the perldoc looks like it wants the indexname,matchpoint    so  --match 035indexname,035a  ??
01:07 ashimema ahh.. that makes sense..
01:08 talljoy i always wish they would give specific examples on some of these.
01:08 ashimema now i re-read it that make very good sense
01:08 now i feel like a muppet.. looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right :p
01:09 gmcharlt heh
01:09 Jwellner :)
01:09 gmcharlt as the neural interface to the fine manual is still awaiting signoff...
01:10 ashimema I'm gonna blame my misreading on it being late.. it's late here.. honest.
01:10 talljoy i was just thinking that.
01:11 it's late here too.
01:11 of course, time being irrelevant in #koha as someone is always here and it's morning somewhere
01:12 ashimema that is indeed very true..
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01:13 ashimema think I may leave working out what that first param actually needs to be untill the morning.. indexname may make more sense to me on a night sleep ;)
01:14 talljoy true that.
01:14 i'm headed out for a late dinner.  trick or treaters be dammed.  i'm hitting the road.
01:15 lock up the children, i'm heading out.
01:22 ashimema Just in case anyone ever goes through the logs looking for the answer to my question above.. the correct syntax was: bulkmarcimport.pl -t -b -match Local-number,035a -v -file Results/bibl.mrc -v >Logs/load_bibl_fix.log
01:22 but I had to enable the Local-number index first.. seems to be commented out in zebra config for 3.10.6
01:22 sure there's a reason.. but I can't remember why..
01:22 right..
01:23 nighty night #koha
01:28 mtompset @quote add <ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P
01:28 huginn mtompset: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:28 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #206: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/206/
01:28 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates
01:28 * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: restrict the ability to delete a bib record associated with an order
01:28 * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: (follow-up) suppress line feeds in javascript
01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9218 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , intranet cart email broken for non english templates
01:28 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt
01:28 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format.
01:28 * Galen Charlton: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term solution
01:28 * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 7684: multiple fixes for inventory
01:28 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: QA Followup and bugfixes
01:28 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix crash when generating the CSV
01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9780 major, P4, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Restrict the right to suppress a record used in some order
01:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc
01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9374 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In baskets, prices between 0 and 1 are displayed in red
01:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export
01:28 * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices
01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7684 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , inventory :  datatable fix actions etc.
01:28 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page
01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match
01:28 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11033 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In basketgroup pages, Save button and Cancel link are hidden by chooselanguage bar
01:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #207 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 19 hr ago)
01:29 mtompset @quote add <ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P
01:29 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.  Quote #283 added.
01:29 mtompset @quote get 278
01:29 huginn mtompset: Quote #278: "jcamins: ... OMGOMGOMG MUST FIX ALL THE THINGS." (added by mtompset at 03:50 AM, September 17, 2013)
01:29 mtompset @quote get 279
01:29 huginn mtompset: Quote #279: "eythian:steep learning curves are good, because it means in a short time you learn a lot. It's the shallow ones that are bad because over a long time you learn very little." (added by mtompset at 04:06 AM, September 26, 2013)
01:30 mtompset @quote get 280
01:30 huginn mtompset: Quote #280: "<oleonard> Κοηα?" (added by gmcharlt at 02:15 PM, October 25, 2013)
01:30 mtompset @quote get 281
01:30 huginn mtompset: Quote #281: "cait thinks renewable karma makes a lot of sense" (added by gmcharlt at 05:38 PM, October 28, 2013)
01:30 mtompset @quote get 282
01:30 huginn mtompset: Quote #282: "mtompset: there will always be bugs, until the length of code is 0." (added by wizzyrea at 09:12 PM, October 29, 2013)
01:30 mtompset Ah, okay. I didn't realize I got quote added.
01:32 eythian @quote search mtompset
01:32 huginn eythian: 4 found: #208: "<mtompset> Tonight... I tango with git.", #215: "mtompset> So would a Fire Weasel be a...", #259: "<mtompset> What have I found?! The horror! The...", and #282: "mtompset: there will always be bugs, until the..."
01:33 mtompset Hmm... I don't remember the Fire Weasel one.
01:34 eythian @quote random
01:34 huginn eythian: Quote #233: "<oleonard> How about Now that she's three my daughter has terrible authority control" (added by gmcharlt at 05:06 PM, February 14, 2013)
01:34 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
01:35 mtompset she?
01:35 wahanui she is here
01:35 mtompset Now that she?
01:36 eythian you're applying far too much semantics to wahanui.
01:37 mtompset I am just wondering what in the quote triggered wahanui to say that it had it that way.
01:39 Well, now that I re-read the context for the Fire Weasel, at least my comment was coherent. :)
01:39 Jwellner Ahh... nothing like kicking the UBoat captain off her computer when she's away to get the data...
01:40 eythian mtompset: it's doing some sort of match on 'she's' and turning it in to she is, but I don't think that works completely, so getting it out again may not be possible.
01:41 oh actually, maybe not
01:41 mtompset How about now?
01:41 wahanui now is, like, good time with holidays coming up
01:41 * mtompset grins.
01:42 mtompset Right about now?
01:42 wizzyrea How about Now that?
01:42 wahanui i heard Now that was a christmas party
01:42 wizzyrea lol :)
01:42 eythian I could dump the database and check, but I'd have to take wahanui offline to do that, so I won't :)
01:42 mtompset No need.
01:43 wizzyrea wahanui's a winner.
01:43 mtompset Guessing randomly can be a source of amusement, as long as it isn't floody.
01:43 The funk?
01:44 No suprise that wahanui is not sharing in my musical flash back.
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01:49 Dyrcona1 Umm, weird...
01:49 wahanui weird is normal after a while :)
01:49 Dyrcona1 Yes. Yes, it is. We're all mad here.
01:50 Jwellner lol :)
01:50 Dyrcona joined #koha
01:51 Jwellner problems with your evil twin again?
01:51 mtompset Can we blame verizon? ;)
01:51 Dyrcona Maybe we can blame Verizon.
01:51 It's like two instances of my IRC client started.
01:52 Maybe we should blame Ubuntu?
01:53 Jwellner let's just go for broke and blame the NSA
01:53 Dyrcona Oddly enough, I've been researching writing some crypto software tonight.
01:54 mtompset Shhh.... they're listening. :P
01:54 Did you know that cryptographic algorithms are considered munitions?
01:54 Jwellner it isn't listening... it's trick or treating...
01:55 Dyrcona In the USA they are, and in France, IIRC, you're supposed to get a license to use them.
01:55 Jwellner i know there were export restrictions but labeling them like that is interesting...
01:55 Dyrcona Or at least, you used to be.
01:55 The USA is messed up. I oughta know, I live there.
01:55 jcamins Dyrcona: to do what?
01:56 Dyrcona jcamins: I've been having problems with duplicity using scp/sftp with paramiko and pexpect backends, ssh-agent, tmux, etc.
01:56 I'm trying to remotely back up 300GB of files via duplicity to a server in San Diego.
01:56 jcamins Yikes.
01:57 Dyrcona I expect it to take a few days, but the process dies every now and then.
01:57 Despite all the suggestions on the web, ssh-agent does not work with tmux.
01:57 So, I thought I'd write a duplicity-alike in C.
01:58 jcamins I use ssh-agent with tmux.
01:58 Jwellner why not rsync via ssh?
01:58 eythian how does that work?
01:58 as soon as you created a new session, the old one wouldn't work
01:58 unless it was smart and tunneled the agent through itself
01:58 which would be _very_ smart and something I could get behind.
01:59 Dyrcona my ssh-agent usually dies very soon after detaching and logging out.
01:59 Jwellner: duplicity also encrypts the files before doing the rsync with ssh.
01:59 I don't own the server where I'm sending the files, so I want to symmetrically encrypt them as well.
02:00 Jwellner Ooo... very nifty :)
02:00 eythian symmetric? Or public?
02:00 I use gpg for encrypting remote backups
02:00 (and make sure the key is safe somewhere else.)
02:00 Dyrcona duplicity does symmetric.
02:01 i have some other files that I backup using tar, gpg and scp.
02:01 300GB is a bit much to put in a tarball, so i like that duplicity splits them up into chunks.
02:02 plus duplicity handles incremental backup.
02:09 Jwellner very cool... will need to keep this tool in mind... :)
02:18 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #207: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/207/
02:18 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list
02:18 * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref
02:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11132 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The results list is reset on adding a biblio to a list
02:18 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving
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02:28 mtompset Dyrcona: You could 'split' the tarball manually. ;)
02:30 Dyrcona uh-huh.... 300GB into 25MB files... 12,000 tar commands and a carpal tunnel syndrome diagnosis later..... ;)
02:33 mtompset no... the split command.
02:33 1 tar file, 1 split command.
02:34 I agree that 12,000 files gets unwieldy, but it makes for rsync-able files. :)
02:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d3e09797dc4c1fdb0>
02:36 Dyrcona I suppose, but wonder what happens when I run out of disk space.
02:37 If it is all done on the same drive, then I'd have the original files, the tar file, the split tar files, then the encrypted copies...
02:38 Of course, the split files could be encrypted, deleted, sent, and then the encrypted version deleted.
02:39 Too bad hardware isn't free. ;)
02:41 Jwellner Depends on where you have rich uncles that have surplus :)
02:42 Good hardware, perhaps not... :)  I picked up a pair of 16TB arrays today on surplus for work... not sure what to do with them yet, but I'll find them a home :)
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02:43 Dyrcona Well, the backups are being done from a computer with an Atom processor, 2GB of RAM, and just under 1TB of disk space on two drives.
02:44 Jwellner A souped up netbook?
02:46 Dyrcona No, one of these: http://www.cappuccinopc.com/buddie-d525.asp
02:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #208 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 20 hr ago)
02:47 Jwellner oh that's a neat little box... :)
02:48 Dyrcona Yeah, I've used several as network sniffers, a router, and a small office file server.
02:48 Jwellner I was just thinking the network sniffers and such...
02:48 especially with the GigE on board...
02:49 Dyrcona Yeah, one of my coworkers uses one as a wireless access point at home.
02:50 Jwellner sweet :)
02:50 Dyrcona I use one at home instead of my ISP's router.
02:50 Jwellner I worked with a Buffalo for that job...
02:50 and a Synology for most my other disk stuff
02:51 it replicates my 200GB music library pretty well from a sister unit at work.
02:55 mtompset Hmmm... original files, tar it (double), encrypt the tar (3.5x), delete the tar (2.5x), split the encrypted tar (4.0x) ... as long at the original files don't take more than 20% (need to leave lee-way), should barely fit. :)
02:56 Actually, our backup system uses a mountable encrypted file system on the destination.
02:57 Dyrcona mtompset: I wouldn't trust splitting the encrypted file.
02:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1494: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1494/
02:58 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Cataloging Help
02:58 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Serials Help
02:58 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Tools Help Files
02:58 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Admin Help Files
02:58 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update
02:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Acq Help Files
02:58 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files [ FOLLOW-UP ]
02:58 * Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record
02:58 * Liz Rea: Bug 10776: fix awkward wording in subscription notification screen
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters
02:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8307: Set a value for subfields when receiving
02:58 * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8307: QA Followup for finishreceive.pl
02:58 * Galen Charlton: Bug 9044: (follow-up) fix merge conflict typo that broke this script
02:58 * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: DBrev 3.13.00.041
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Subscription notification screen has awkward wording
02:58 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving
02:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates
02:58 * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: restrict the ability to delete a bib record associated with an order
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Allow to select items on catalogue/detail.pl and trigger actions
02:58 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: (follow-up) suppress line feeds in javascript
02:58 * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9218 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , intranet cart email broken for non english templates
02:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format.
02:58 * Galen Charlton: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term solution
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9780 major, P4, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Restrict the right to suppress a record used in some order
02:58 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9374 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In baskets, prices between 0 and 1 are displayed in red
02:58 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 7684: multiple fixes for inventory
02:58 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: QA Followup and bugfixes
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7684 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , inventory :  datatable fix actions etc.
02:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix crash when generating the CSV
02:58 * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc
02:58 * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export
02:58 * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match
02:58 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page
02:58 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list
02:58 * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11033 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In basketgroup pages, Save button and Cancel link are hidden by chooselanguage bar
02:58 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11132 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The results list is reset on adding a biblio to a list
02:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #1495 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1493 3 hr 53 min ago)
02:59 mtompset Me neither, Dyrcona. Just thinking of a hypothetical way of doing it, not necessarily the best way.
03:00 we rsync over ssh between vm's and the destination has a mounted encrypted directory which we mount to backup and unmount upon completion... very narrow window of data stealing. :)
03:14 Dyrcona yeah. I use plain rsync over ssh when I control the endpoints. In this case, I don't control one.
03:15 The backup company also strongly encourages their customers to encrypt their files before sending them to the server.
03:17 mtompset Could you do an intermediate stop-over?
03:18 One that gets it to a secondary point and encrypted somehow (such as a mounted encrypted FS)
03:18 and then use the secondary point to push the encrypted files to the final destination?
03:19 perhaps mount an encrypted FS on the first machine, and instead of tar'ing... rsync to the encrypted FS point.
03:19 unmount the point.
03:20 rsync the encypted files to the destination.
03:20 Dyrcona Well, I don't want to put my personal stuff on the servers owned by the non-profit where I work during the day.
03:22 I'm not sure that really buys me much, plus I'd rather have the incremental features for these files, since 300GB is a lot to send over every time something changes.
03:22 Granted, these files don't change that often.
03:23 I think using librsync, openssl or libgcrypt, libssh, or libssh2, I should be able to implement what I want.
03:25 It would make for an interesting little project.
03:27 Plus, I could have fun adding support for vcdiff, bsdiff, and other algorithms.
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03:36 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
03:36 Project master_maria build #208: FIXED in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/208/
03:36 Galen Charlton: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test
03:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt
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03:40 Dyrcona Of course, since I started it again a few hours, duplicity has picked up where it left off and is chugging away a the files.
03:40 should be an "ago" in there somewhere. :)
03:40 Oh well, as my daughter used to say, "Nighttime, bed."
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04:24 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
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04:53 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
04:53 Project Koha_master build #1495: FIXED in 1 hr 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1495/
04:53 Galen Charlton: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test
04:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt
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07:20 * magnuse waves
07:21 magnuse build fixed! woohoo! \o/
07:22 * cait waves tiredly
07:34 * magnuse sends cait some coffee
07:36 cait thx
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08:06 petter good morning koha
08:28 cait good morning petter :)
08:40 magnuse hiya petter
08:40 petter heisann!
08:40 magnuse morndu!
08:44 * magnuse wishes someone would put bug 6554 out of it's misery
08:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates
08:45 cait i think tcohen has some ideas about this one
08:45 we should ask him when he shows up :)
08:46 petter yes, it really bugs me too
08:46 It seams particullary to be a problem with the latin1 subset
08:46 including norwegian characters æøå
08:46 cait i think colin fixed another issue some days ago
08:46 petter It looks like text sometimes get double encoded
08:47 cait where it seems part of latin1 was the problem?
08:49 petter cait: do you know which bug his fix is?
08:49 cait hmm i can find it, but not totally sure it#s related or helpful, so don't be disappointed
08:51 bug 11054
08:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters
08:55 petter thanks!
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09:49 petter is there a good reason not to have all koha files in UTF-8?
09:49 ashimema waking up to poor rancid milk on my shreddies.  This will be a thing of the paste when my new fridge arrives!
09:50 petter I don't know Perl, but in other languages like Python & Ruby encoding problems are solved by having UTF-8 everywhere
09:50 bug 6654 really bugs me!
09:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6654 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, [security] Authentication issues
09:50 petter bug 6554 i mean
09:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates
09:51 cait ashimema: morning :)
09:51 petter god morning
09:51 good morning
09:51 let's kep God out of it
09:52 magnuse lol
09:53 petter: yeah, i'd say everything ought to be utf-8, but then i'm far from being an expert...
09:53 ashimema Morning all.
09:53 magnuse so you see files that are not?
09:53 hiya ashimema
09:54 ashimema petter, magnuse.. likewise.. I'de go with everything should be in utf-8
09:54 petter yes most of the files are ASCII actually
09:54 and a few are utf-8 encoded
09:55 just go into a template directory for example
09:55 ashimema interesting.. never noticed that before.
09:55 petter and to
09:55 ls | xargs file
09:55 you'll see ASCII text mostly, and sometimes UTF-8 unicode
09:56 ashimema by jove
09:58 magnuse yeah, that looks really random
09:58 i have no idea what the implications are, though
09:59 petter me neither
10:01 kivilahtio lol I got the child records working! Also found a bug from our child record data migration tool
10:01 our database jumped from 350 000 to 1 100 000 :)
10:01 records
10:01 had to do some virtual guest restructuring to facilitate that :D
10:01 petter congratulations!
10:01 kivilahtio this is SO big!
10:01 petter :)
10:01 cait it is
10:02 kivilahtio 62.148.106.91/cgi-bin/koha/opa​c-detail.pl?biblionumber=20396
10:02 there is a issue with the returning link from child record to the parent record
10:02 it makes a funny zebra query based on everything else than the parents $001
10:03 this is odd
10:03 001 should be forced to match the biblionumber in DB
10:03 also those title, author searches dont work for us
10:04 ashimema kivilahtio: lol.. at the moment there's no way to do that (force 001 to match biblionumber)
10:04 kivilahtio I mean when you try to access the parent record from hte child record, we get no search results
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10:04 kivilahtio ashimema: I made that possible in 6113
10:04 bug_6113
10:04 ashimema: regarding bibliographic data migration tho
10:05 ashimema: but what real barriers there are for that?
10:05 * ashimema goes to find the bug.
10:05 cait kivilahtio: also it can't be forced by default
10:05 we have wonderful 001 i won't give up for a biblionumber
10:05 kivilahtio cait: Wee when you create a new record how is the 001 defined?
10:05 ashimema should be a syspref... but I know we'de love it.
10:05 magnuse bug 6113
10:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6113 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, In Discussion , enhancement to keep previous ids
10:05 cait all our records are from a union catalog and they contain the numbers anduse them for linking
10:06 kivilahtio but hte Koha cataloguing tool doesnt add any 001
10:06 cait no it doesn't
10:06 kivilahtio this is a big issue regarding child record linking
10:06 ashimema your in a pretty privileged position there cait
10:06 cait just saying we need a flexible solution here
10:06 :)
10:06 yep
10:06 i know
10:06 kivilahtio cait I understand your point
10:06 ashimema needs to be syspref driven..
10:06 magnuse bug 9921
10:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, In Discussion , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber
10:06 kivilahtio bug 11175 already has a ystem preference should the child record data be injected to the xslt transformation source xml
10:06 cait ok
10:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Show the parent records child records (aka. component parts) in the detailed views.
10:07 cait please someone send me packing?
10:07 magnuse cait: go packing!
10:07 kivilahtio I can write the XSLT default templates to have 001 link optionally
10:07 cait magnuse: i know you are not really mean...
10:07 kivilahtio actually that was just what I was about to do
10:08 but 001 is not the same as biblionumber
10:08 magnuse there is a syspref related to that, i think
10:08 cait kivilahtio: hm, they already fall back if there is no link?
10:08 kivilahtio this is so bad
10:08 magnuse: really?
10:08 cait if there is no $w subfield, then it falls back to a search
10:08 kivilahtio cait: I understand now what you mean with union catalog
10:08 cait: well it doesnt fall back for me
10:09 cait: I always get the search even if $773w is present
10:09 cait oyu have to turn on UseControlNumber
10:09 magnuse "UseControlNumber [Use/Don't use] record control number ($w subfields) and control number (001) for linking of bibliographic records." not sure if you could/should reuse that
10:10 kivilahtio lol I thought I set it on?!?
10:10 There is a ghost in our Koha system :=
10:10 now it works
10:10 ashimema UseControlNumber and EasyAnalytics are very different sysprefs and seem to be pretty misunderstood.
10:10 cait and not compatible with each other i think
10:10 ashimema haha.. glad you got it working
10:10 yeah.. they're not really compatible.
10:11 we deffo need to put mutual exclusiveness into the syspreffs.
10:11 is there a bug for that open yet cait?
10:11 kivilahtio just found a bug related to UseControlNumber
10:11 cait for the mutual exclusiveness?
10:11 kivilahtio our records have only $773, $7 = nn && $w = 9326
10:11 cait hm, not that I am aware of... but my brain ran out of memory for the bug database
10:11 kivilahtio this doesnt work
10:11 needs to be more data to make the link
10:12 cait you need a link text
10:12 $t i think
10:12 kivilahtio cait: ah yeah that was it
10:12 now I remeber
10:12 I was supposed to fix it to our data migrationtool :)
10:12 ashimema you need an upgrade cait
10:12 magnuse i think tcohen was working on some sanity checks for sysprefs
10:12 cait i do.
10:12 kivilahtio I think it is a good practice to include them when you introduce new sysprefs
10:14 ashimema hmm.. if we're getting picky about linking.. really we should be ensuring uniqueness of 001+003 as apposed to just 001 (for mark21 at least).. and then linking upon that..
10:14 but at the moment we don't ;)
10:14 magnuse and there is the "System information" tab under "About Koha"
10:15 cait ashimema: yeah, but sitll good thinking
10:17 ashimema magnuse: what was that related to.. I don't follow?
10:17 kivilahtio ashimema: what do you mean with 001 + 003?
10:18 cait 001 + 003 are a pair
10:18 003 defines the source of the 001
10:18 ashimema 001 - Record Control Number, 003 - Control Number Identifier
10:18 kivilahtio cait: ah
10:18 who cares?
10:18 ashimema haha.. cait beat me to it.
10:18 kivilahtio :)
10:18 cait so when you download records from different catalogs that include 001 they don't overlap
10:19 kivilahtio understood
10:19 cait ashimema: but your answer was more perfect :)
10:19 magnuse ashimema: mutual exclusiveness of sysprefs
10:19 cait ashimema: I will show you a trick :)
10:19 @marc 001
10:19 huginn cait: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). []
10:19 cait @marc 003
10:19 huginn cait: The MARC code for the organization whose control number is contained in field 001 (Control Number). []
10:19 magnuse huginn++
10:20 kivilahtio huginn++
10:20 ashimema huggin is awesome!
10:20 kivilahtio btw what IDE do you use for Perl developing
10:20 how do youo debug Koha and make new devs?
10:20 how about git?
10:20 cait geany - mostly a text editor
10:20 kivilahtio you just use command line git?
10:20 cait command line
10:20 ashimema vim ;)
10:21 cait lol
10:21 okok, you win
10:21 ashimema though i've been thinking of moving to a proper IDE for a while.. never found one for perl i've been happy with.
10:21 kivilahtio ashimema: try Eclipse + EPIC
10:21 ashimema yup.. command line git..
10:21 kivilahtio ashimema: or Komodo IDE
10:21 magnuse gedit + command line git for me
10:21 kivilahtio ashimema: I am using Komodo IDE 8.5 and it is superb
10:21 ashimema if you're on windows/mac you could use atlasian's sourcetree.. I hear great things about it all the time.
10:22 i tired padre and exlipse+epic
10:22 kivilahtio ashimema: I can emulate CGI-calls and run an active debugger through whole Koha
10:22 ashimema not tried komodo
10:22 nice
10:22 kivilahtio ashimema: That is INSANELY powerfull, brings lots of java-like debugging features
10:22 not code hot-swap
10:22 but otherwise pretty good
10:23 I couldn't use those for Evergreen, I tried hard, but the system was just structured in a really difficult way
10:23 but For Koha! Bam, my productivity has easily tripled
10:24 btw gotta go and pay my Komodo licence for this year, 300€
10:25 ashimema may have to try it out..
10:26 hmm.. not doing much coding though at the moment :(.. a 21 day trial would be a waste right now.
10:27 cait i think the word license will scare lots of people around #koha off
10:34 * magnuse installs geany
10:41 ashimema snap
10:50 magnuse ?
11:04 cait it's just an editor
11:04 with a nice icon
11:05 magnuse well, it seems to be a bit more advanced than gedit, with projects etc
11:05 but when i have tried for 10 minutes to create a koha project, without success, i kind of give up on it...
11:06 cait ah, i don't work with a project
11:06 i just use it as an editor heh
11:11 ashimema wow.. just finished reading the comments on all those bugs.. there's allot going on in the sequential number space.. hadn't realised.
11:12 magnuse yeah, sadly it seems to have stalled the 001 = biblionumber thing a bit, i think?
11:15 ashimema yeah.. kinda.
11:16 though I'm actually in the camp of I'de live to see it based upon sequence number as opposed to actually keep 001 = biblionumber..
11:17 I would also love to see a bug that implements the full spec of linking to 001+003 as an addition to the options we've already got of link on 001 OR link on biblionumber.
11:18 cait ashimema: i think the linkings should still work if you also use 003
11:18 so cataloguing like hat should be oki
11:18 just nothing automatic
11:19 i mean it doesn't break if you do $w(003)001
11:19 which would be the standard
11:19 ok, leaving now - have a nice weekend everyone :)
11:22 ashimema Hmm.. think I need to test that.. maybe it's changed since I last tried it out.
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11:52 * cait-m_ waves
11:53 * magnuse waves to cait-m_
11:54 cait-m_ hm wonder why the underscore keeps happening
11:57 @wunder konstanz
11:57 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.3°C (12:55 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
11:58 cait-m_ chilly
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12:13 Oak @wunder islamabad
12:13 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 23.0°C (5:00 PM PKT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
12:16 ashimema @wunder london
12:16 huginn ashimema: Error: No such location could be found.
12:17 ashimema are there any doc out there for our bots?
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12:43 tcohen morning
12:47 magnuse ashimema: i guess there are many londons
12:47 @wunder london, uk
12:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 14.0°C (12:20 PM GMT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
12:48 magnuse @wunder boo
12:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (1:20 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady).
12:48 magnuse airport codes work too :-)
12:51 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:51 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 15.0°C (9:00 AM ART on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
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12:57 cait-m_ @wunder haigerloch
12:57 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Rottenburg, Germany is 8.7°C (1:48 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
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12:58 ashimema indeed
12:59 magnuse rottenburg?!? ;-)
12:59 cait-m_ what?
13:00 might be the closest weather station
13:00 magnuse a rotten burg? that does not sound too nice
13:04 ashimema hmm.. I'm playing with sandboxes.. I wonder if I can get them to work with a package install and koha-gitify
13:08 cait-m_ smells nicer ten rotorua
13:08 ashimena: trying to  set up your own?
13:09 magnuse cait-m_: that is good to hear :-)
13:11 ashimema yep.. I had a go when they were introduced at last years kohacon.. didn't get especially far.. but I've been given the go ahead to have another go
13:12 magnuse cool
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13:16 cait-m_ :)
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13:18 ashimema the only piece I can see there being issues with so far for packages is the call to updatedatabase.pl
13:18 I'm not exactly sure how packages handle this.
13:19 hmm. the calls to rebuild zebra may also need minor modification.. though I'm not sure.
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13:20 magnuse ashimema: look at debian/scripts/koha-upgrade-schema
13:21 ashimema cheers magnuse
13:21 cait-m_ there are some things sandboxrd cant handle yet i think
13:21 ashimema yeah.. a fari few things I think..
13:21 another reason another pair of eyes can only be good ;)
13:26 cait-m_ :)
13:26 Barrc Howd'y. Does anyone have any thoughts on why Koha checks in an item that has a hold on it before asking the staff what to do with it?
13:26 as opposed to asking first, then checking it it!?
13:27 cait-m_ why should it not check ot in?
13:28 jcamins Barrc: because if it asked first, the book would still be on the previous patron's record.
13:28 Barrc Well, it's not that it shouldn't check it in, it's just that it might always want to check it in!
13:29 It's casuing me problems with SIP to be honest. SIP gets a return code back to say the book has been checked in from AddReturn
13:29 cait-m_ if someone checks in abook its returnef
13:29 Barrc It makes it difficult to stop the SelfCheck transaction happening, as well, it's already happened!"
13:29 cait-m_ phone typoeing
13:29 why do you want to stop it?
13:30 Barrc Because the returning borrower is putting into a shelving trolloy and the hold notice is never being triggered.
13:30 It effectivly makes Holds usless.
13:31 cait-m_ our libraries just go abd pick thrm up
13:31 they show up in holds to pull
13:31 and we have a report to  list the items with holds on the cart
13:31 Barrc Yeah, the workflow is different in this library, and not how it happened on "...their old system" !!!
13:32 cait-m_ well
13:32 ashimema sounds more of a sip issue than a checkin issue
13:32 cait-m_ koha is not their old system
13:32 Barrc If fairness, they do have a point. It was the same for transits too, I had to change the logic their too!
13:32 ashimema: But SIP calls the same routine as a normal checking
13:33 there is no way, at present, to differentiate between the two.
13:33 cait-m_ i think as a patron it would annoy me to have to return books with holds sep
13:34 but check bugzilla there was some discussion about holds handlong a while ago
13:35 Barrc cait-m: I agree. However, I can see an argument for having an option. At the moment it is possible for an item to be checked in at, say 13:00 shelved at 13:10 and checked out again, even with a hold on it!
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13:37 Barrc The only way I can think of is adding a SystemPref for all things SIP  (which should be implemented anyway , I think) then passing an extra argument to the various methods indicating SIP or Staff etc....
13:38 which will be a nightmare!
13:44 magnuse anyone using gather_print_notices.pl?
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13:48 magnuse i'm getting: print() on closed filehandle $OUTPUT at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjo​bs/gather_print_notices.pl line 129.
13:49 cait-m_ sorry tested ages ago but not using it
14:06 magnuse ah, i was trying to write the file to a dir i did not have permissions on... (or rather, since i was using koha-shell, the koha_instance user did not have permissions)
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14:10 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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14:17 gmcharlt @quote random
14:17 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #119: "<wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/b[…]8_nepali_food.jpg" (added by wasabi at 10:22 AM, January 27, 2011)
14:18 * gmcharlt blinks
14:18 druthb lulz
14:18 gmcharlt MOVING ON!
14:23 mtompset http://youtu.be/MMR5JVo21wQ
14:25 tcohen :-D
14:26 ashimema :)
14:27 gmcharlt mtompset++
14:27 * druthb sings, "Movin' right along, dubby-dub-dubby-dub…"
14:30 rambutan I hope the image of a skinned red pig clears my mind before lunch. I hope also the same for druthb and gmcharlt. Skinned red pig.
14:30 gmcharlt rambutan: you're not helping! ;)
14:30 rambutan no?
14:31 @wunder 64507
14:31 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 6.1°C (9:31 AM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
14:37 druthb @wunder 77098
14:37 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 18.9°C (9:37 AM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
14:46 tcohen has anyone experienced problems git recent git versions 1.8.x and previously working gitolite setups?
14:47 mtompset Sorry. :(
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15:08 mtompset http://idibon.com/the-weirdest-languages/
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15:13 jcamins I am so glad I always carry extra socks.
15:23 gmcharlt tcohen: I have not, but for obvious reasons, I'll be interested to hear details
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15:58 gmcharlt are there any UNIMARC users around who would be interested in smoke-testing installation of the beta tarball?
16:21 ashimema so.. remind me.. whose the master of the sandbox's ?  I'm having issues with setting my system up for it.
16:23 aha.. I'm an idiot.. I left 'mysql_database_name' in the cron instead of replacing it with the actualy database name!
16:23 gmcharlt create database mysql_database_name...
16:23 ;)
16:25 talljoy has anyone used an open source 'digital library' that they can recommend?
16:28 jcamins talljoy: presumably rangi would recommend Kete, if that's what you mean.
16:28 rambutan DSpace
16:28 talljoy i thought of that ;-)
16:28 Dspace is the other i thought of.
16:28 Vudl ?
16:28 druthb I worked with DSpace in a prior life.
16:28 jcamins I didn't like DSpace when I tried it out.
16:28 Fedora seemed much more promising.
16:28 Less clunky.
16:29 talljoy i need something that will take high res images and be able to zoom in and around.
16:29 jcamins Greenstone was just unpleasant.
16:30 druthb In early incarnations, Fedora was just the object-store framework, and you had to bolt everything onto it.  The Fedora team cleverly realized this put them behind DSpace on the adoption curve, even with DS being so clunky and evil and (at that time) married to QDC format.
16:30 talljoy vudl is now fedora is it not jcamins
16:31 rambutan I also cannot recommend greenstone, although it might have improved in the 4 years since I previously used it
16:31 jcamins talljoy: it's a front end, yeah.
16:32 I've heard people swear by Islandora, too, as a front end.
16:33 talljoy thansk jcamins
16:33 good info all.  Thanks!
16:34 rambutan I thought that at one time DSpace and Fedora were going to merge. This page -> http://www.duraspace.org/web_seminars has some DSpace cf. Fedora webinars at the bottom
16:34 jcamins talljoy: of course, if all you need is an image viewer, you might be able to just stick an image viewer JS widget on top of Koha.
16:36 rambutan there's clearly some collaboration still going on: "DuraSpace news highlights DSpace and Fedora community information."  http://www.dspace.org/duraspac[…]raspace-blog.html
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16:39 jcamins I ask you: what is the point of arranging a bibliography by author main entry, and including a main author index, but not a title index?
16:40 rambutan trying to save paper costs?
16:41 jcamins rambutan: in that case, don't print a fifty page index that just repeats the order of the bibliography.
16:42 Or publish it as an ebook.
16:42 rambutan ah
16:43 jcamins My initial thought was saving paper as well, then it struck me that if they really wanted to save paper, they wouldn't have printed an index that provided no new information.
16:48 ashimema ack.. how would: Run->new( qq|mysql -e "drop database $databasename;create database $databasename;"| );
16:48 ever work.
16:49 surely you need a mysql username/password somewhere in there..
16:50 talljoy i would think so
16:51 ashimema the sandbox code executes the above somehow on biblibres servers I assume.. wondering now if the contrib git is up to date with their stuff.
16:51 maybe they don't set mysql root passwords?
16:52 gmcharlt hmm
16:52 ashimema anyone know whose in charge of their sandbox servers?.. i can see lots of commiters against contrib
16:52 gmcharlt it's not clear to me if we set a firm date for elections for 3.16 roles
16:56 but I guess by timing and custom, it's either going to have to be the next general meeting, scheduled for 11/6, or a special mid-November meeting
17:06 cait-m_ its on the agenda i think
17:06 nengard hey all - do we have a bug/enhancement about tabbing through pull down menus in Koha?
17:06 sounds familiar and I don't want to report a new one
17:06 but I can't find the old one (if there is one)
17:06 jcamins nengard: with bootstrap the arrow keys work.
17:06 You mean on the staff client, right?
17:06 nengard k- pre-bootstrap and yes
17:07 jcamins I think it just works in 3.12+.
17:07 cait-m_ it shoukd i think
17:08 nengard k
17:08 thanks
17:17 gmcharlt cait-m_: indeed it is -- good enough
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17:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #103 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #98 24 days ago)
17:58 magnuse ashimema: i think paul_p has done a lot of work on the sandboxen
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18:30 magnuse make pizza
18:30 oops, wrong window ;-)
18:30 jcamins magnuse: you have an IRC channel that takes instructions like that?
18:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #103: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/103/
18:30 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: include fine details when printing a fine
18:30 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) tidy members/printinvoice.pl
18:30 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) improve display of fine details on printed invoice
18:30 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10619 - fix errors in sco.css for the CCSR OPAC templates
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10027 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Fine details not showing when printing a fine
18:30 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9943: activate "Pay selected" button only when at least one fine is selected
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10619 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , sco.css missing for CCSR OPAC templates
18:30 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9943 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Pay fines page "Pay selected" button give invalid amount when nothing is selected
18:38 magnuse jcamins: nah, i was aming for my terminal, where i just unzipped pizza_ingredients-2.0.zip
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19:02 mtompset @later tell tcohen I posted some of my test results for bug 10003.
19:02 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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21:09 rambutan @seen jcamins
21:09 huginn rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <jcamins> magnuse: you have an IRC channel that takes instructions like that?
21:10 jcamins o/
21:10 rambutan the FF offline circ module--where does the transaction file live, or what is the name of it?
21:11 and when is it deleted, at the next download of records?
21:11 jcamins It is stored in the browser's indexeddb, and transactions are kept until they've been uploaded.
21:11 rambutan hummm, 'k
21:12 jcamins So if you don't upload transactions, they will hang around for months, and then confuse you terribly when you try to test other things and get a handful of transactions from six months ago.
21:12 gmcharlt a minor enhancement idea occurs
21:13 "You appear to have been very dilatory about uploading your offline circulation transaction.  Are you /quite/ sure about this?"
21:13 ;)
21:13 Jeeves accent optional
21:13 jcamins Heh.
21:15 rambutan the issue we're addressing is that a nervous bookmobile person is ready to upload records, and hasn't kept a separate manual record as usual, and wants to backup the transaction record on the computer before uploading
21:16 jcamins rambutan: http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]eddb-files-stored
21:17 If you copy the indexedDB directory out, you can always put it back in.
21:30 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.14-beta is available for download and testing. Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 6th November, 02:00 UTC
21:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e29b4963c9350ea20> / DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0cfa5c96ed185821e>
21:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #209 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED)
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22:02 rambutan you know, the koc sql sometimes creates a lock file that can screw things up, I haven't quite figured out what does it when uploading transactions
22:20 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #209: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/209/
22:20 * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta
22:20 * Galen Charlton: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta
22:23 nengard :)
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22:25 ChilhoweeLibrar I have a few questions and was wondering if someone can answer them for me
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23:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1496: SUCCESS in 1 hr 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1496/
23:27 * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta
23:27 * Galen Charlton: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta
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23:30 Jwellner @drnoe hi
23:30 huginn Jwellner: I suck
23:31 drnoe howdy jwellner
23:31 Jwellner Geez... that's what I get for being rusty with my IRC...
23:31 How are you doing David?
23:32 drnoe pretty good. just updating little things whilst waiting on the data. you?
23:34 Jwellner Getting ready to do the extraction
23:35 drnoe right on. just let me know. I will work on getting ready tonight and liekly load it in the morning.
23:38 pianohacker saml--
23:38 I need something like
23:38 self check
23:38 self check?
23:38 dammit wahanui
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23:44 Hello.
23:48 @wunder Worthington MN
23:48 huginn joels68: The current temperature in Worthington, Minnesota is 7.0°C (6:35 PM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa.
23:51 joels68 @info
23:51 huginn joels68: Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info".
23:53 joels68 @recent
23:53 huginn joels68: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.

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