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| 00:03 | tcohen joined #koha | |
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| 01:19 | mtj | hey jcamins, heres a nice caro i discovered recently… |
| 01:19 | http://library.curtin.edu.au/ | |
| 01:19 | http://bookshelf.library.curtin.edu.au/newbooks | |
| 01:19 | ...it has an MIT license, so can be used with Koha :) | |
| 01:20 | jcamins | mtj: nice! |
| 01:20 | I have issues with any open source projects that require you to register. | |
| 01:21 | mtj | hell yes, me too... O_o |
| 01:23 | eythian | http://shouldiuseacarousel.com/ <-- mtj :) |
| 01:23 | mtj | jcamins ^^ |
| 01:25 | jcamins | mtj++ |
| 01:26 | mtj | i did some experimenting with the 'content-flow' caro, too - for CALYX -> http://demo.calyx.net.au/ |
| 01:27 | but, the curtin caro looks a little nicer, i think -> http://caro1.kohaaloha.com/ | |
| 01:28 | jcamins | Yeah, that's pretty cool. |
| 01:29 | mtj | (the CF caro has some very subtle bug with occasional images not loading, so… next :/ ) |
| 01:32 | jcamins | You should fix the bug. :) |
| 01:34 | mtj | hey, i did try - but sadly, it was way beyong my JS fu :/ |
| 01:35 | jcamins | Aww. That's too bad. I don't think a carousel will work for me, sadly. |
| 01:36 | mtj | hey eythian, the points of your caro link don't really apply for a 'new books' lists, tho? |
| 01:37 | eythian | probably, I was just putting it out there. |
| 01:42 | mtj | …its the 1st caro i've seen, written specifically to display bibs/books/media, etc |
| 01:44 | this one's cool -> http://106.187.50.84/pubi/virt[…]-substitutes.html | |
| 01:46 | eythian, but yeah - i dislike most uses of caros on websites too :p | |
| 01:49 | jcamins | I want some way to make it clear there may be multiple images, without taking lots of vertical space until someone clicks to expand the images. |
| 02:05 | mtj | hmm, yeah thats a little tricky… perhaps an offset dark square (or 2) under the image, to show there's 'multiple' images? |
| 02:07 | …or some 'stack' icon, overlaid top-left on the image | |
| 02:13 | jcamins, take a look here, for a suitable icon -> http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icons/ | |
| 02:14 | jcamins | Yeah, that's probably what I'll do. |
| 02:15 | mtj | oooh, i think this is all you need -> http://fortawesome.github.io/F[…]me/icon/sort-asc/ |
| 02:17 | …most people know that icon usually expands 'something' | |
| 02:18 | eythian | it's for sorting |
| 02:18 | it should be pointing to the right to indicate something can be opened. | |
| 02:18 | mtj | yeah, better :p |
| 02:19 | there you go :) | |
| 02:20 | i was seeing the images expand vertically in my head, despite jcamins saying otherwise | |
| 02:21 | http://fortawesome.github.io/F[…]icon/caret-right/ | |
| 02:21 | jcamins | Yeah, but that's basically just making a simple slider-y thing. |
| 02:27 | mtj | jcamins, this would work -> http://106.187.50.84/pubi/virt[…]amples/train.html |
| 02:28 | lots of small/tiny images to save space - and images expand on hover | |
| 02:28 | jcamins | mtj: yeah, maybe. |
| 02:29 | mtj | so, click on a image with the 'expand' icon, which creates a 'train' caro |
| 02:30 | anyhoo… just a idea :) | |
| 02:30 | jcamins | Thanks. That's what I was thinking of. |
| 02:32 | mtj | bonus points for adding a 'reduce' icon to the train :) |
| 02:40 | jcamins | I have a 14px white bar along the right side of my page on an iOS simulator, obscuring the very end of each line. |
| 02:49 | Fixed it. | |
| 02:49 | Have I mentioned my great hatred for iOS recently? | |
| 03:01 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update license statements <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]728fd3c1079485162> / bug 7688: (follow-up) add authentication checking <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4335e3bbf9eeb6c99> / Bug 7688: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]?p=koha.git;a=com |
| 03:02 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #188 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 days 20 hr ago) |
| 03:02 | eythian | jcamins: what are you even doing with iOS? |
| 03:02 | jcamins | eythian: I wanted to know Biblionarrator worked on iPhones. |
| 03:03 | Answer: no. | |
| 03:03 | eythian | oh well. No one really uses them now anyway. |
| 03:03 | jcamins | Well... it works. |
| 03:03 | But it feels kind of like websites on my phone. | |
| 03:03 | (which is bad, because websites on my phone feel bad) | |
| 03:05 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1482 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:22 | edveal joined #koha | |
| 03:25 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10962 - Update MARC21 frameworks to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6af9c5cd44b78c08f> / Bug 10243: (follow-up) prevent TransportCostMatrix from overriding library holds... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]12b0510fdad0d77f1> / Bug 10243: (follow-up) add unit tests <http://git.koha |
| 03:35 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10733: Follow up - unset variables from koha-sites.conf if USE_MEMCACHED=no <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]059c187b64bde7fa2> / Bug 10733: Memcached on package installs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9e0d8286b8e2ada0c> / Bug 10733: add 'memcached' as suggested dependency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb | |
| 03:45 | edveal left #koha | |
| 03:54 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #188: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/188/ |
| 03:54 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: Change subscription numbering pattern and frequencies | |
| 03:54 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) set firstacquidate in updatedatabase if it's not set | |
| 03:54 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) rewrite t/db_dependant/Serials.t | |
| 03:54 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::Frequency | |
| 03:54 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::Numberpattern | |
| 03:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7688 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Change subscriptions numbering pattern and frequencies |
| 03:54 | jenkins_koha | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::GetNextDate() |
| 03:54 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::GetNextSeq() | |
| 03:54 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) rewrite 'for' loop in unit tests | |
| 03:54 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: DBRev 3.13.00.033 | |
| 03:54 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) fix typo | |
| 03:54 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update test cases to reflect change in NewSubscription() | |
| 03:54 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) correct SQL to create the subscription table | |
| 03:54 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes | |
| 03:54 | * Galen Charlton: bug 7688: (follow-up) add authentication checking | |
| 03:54 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update license statements | |
| 03:54 | Starting build #189 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 days 21 hr ago) | |
| 04:03 | * eythian | is getting some nice log stats from our Koha servers, which (among other things) tells me what error messages are most common in the logs, so we can start getting rid of the worst offenders. |
| 04:12 | trea-away left #koha | |
| 04:21 | mtj | eythian++, thats an awesome idea! :p |
| 04:24 | eythian | it's pretty cool. It also has a graph of requests/errors by time, a map of where requests are coming from, the top 10 404s (caused by custom themes typically), relative usage of the sites on our shared platform, and the last 100 log entries across all server, among other things. |
| 04:24 | and it's pretty much realtime. | |
| 04:24 | dpk1 | eythian: final tweak added. |
| 04:24 | eythian | dpk1: cool |
| 04:31 | dpk1: looks good to me. I'll probably get the chance to test it out tomorrow. This'll also be good for migrations, as I do a bulkmarcimport and rebuild-zebra, and half way through realise I have about 5 processes all trying to index at the same time making everything slow. | |
| 04:42 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7131: (follow-up) update the command-line import tools <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f091d9b7d7ce9f6ff> / Bug 7131: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2fba7bf329f884ef9> / Bug 7131: DBRev 3.13.00.034 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…];a=commitdiff;h=5 |
| 04:45 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #189: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/189/ |
| 04:45 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: prevent holds queue from making transfer requests that contradict library holds policy | |
| 04:45 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: (follow-up) add unit tests | |
| 04:45 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: (follow-up) prevent TransportCostMatrix from overriding library holds policy | |
| 04:45 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10962 - Update MARC21 frameworks to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013) | |
| 04:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10243 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Holds queue is making transfer requests that contradict the branch holds policy |
| 04:45 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: add 'memcached' as suggested dependency |
| 04:45 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: Memcached on package installs | |
| 04:45 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: Follow up - unset variables from koha-sites.conf if USE_MEMCACHED=no | |
| 04:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10962 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Update MARC21 frameworks to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013) |
| 04:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Memcached on package installs | |
| 04:45 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #190 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 days 22 hr ago) |
| 04:49 | eythian | I have exactly 15,000 messages in my Koha email folder. |
| 04:55 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1482: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1482/ |
| 04:55 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: Change subscription numbering pattern and frequencies | |
| 04:55 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) set firstacquidate in updatedatabase if it's not set | |
| 04:55 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) rewrite t/db_dependant/Serials.t | |
| 04:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7688 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Change subscriptions numbering pattern and frequencies |
| 04:55 | jenkins_koha | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::Frequency |
| 04:55 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::Numberpattern | |
| 04:55 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::GetNextDate() | |
| 04:55 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::GetNextSeq() | |
| 04:55 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) rewrite 'for' loop in unit tests | |
| 04:55 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: DBRev 3.13.00.033 | |
| 04:55 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) fix typo | |
| 04:55 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update test cases to reflect change in NewSubscription() | |
| 04:55 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) correct SQL to create the subscription table | |
| 04:55 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes | |
| 04:55 | * Galen Charlton: bug 7688: (follow-up) add authentication checking | |
| 04:55 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update license statements | |
| 04:55 | Starting build #1483 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1481 12 hr ago) | |
| 05:12 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10725: Add filters on the pending orders table <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4784c2a8d14d843f> / Bug 10078: (follow-up) add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a1666454b9b1d3903> / Bug 10078: show location facet regardless of singleBranchMode setting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha |
| 05:36 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #190: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/190/ |
| 05:36 | * Elliott Davis: Bug 7131: teach MARC import how to overlay items | |
| 05:36 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) perltidy BatchCommitItems | |
| 05:36 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) allow overlaying by barcode | |
| 05:36 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) initialized some variables properly | |
| 05:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7131 new feature, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , way to overlay items in in marc import |
| 05:36 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: DBRev 3.13.00.034 |
| 05:36 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes | |
| 05:36 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: (follow-up) update the command-line import tools | |
| 05:37 | Starting build #191 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 days 23 hr ago) | |
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| 06:28 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #191: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/191/ |
| 06:28 | * David Cook: Bug 10078: show location facet regardless of singleBranchMode setting | |
| 06:28 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10078: (follow-up) add regression test | |
| 06:28 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10725: Add filters on the pending orders table | |
| 06:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , show location facet for all |
| 06:28 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10725 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add filters on the pending orders table | |
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| 06:44 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1483: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1483/ |
| 06:44 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: prevent holds queue from making transfer requests that contradict library holds policy | |
| 06:44 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: (follow-up) add unit tests | |
| 06:44 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: (follow-up) prevent TransportCostMatrix from overriding library holds policy | |
| 06:44 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10962 - Update MARC21 frameworks to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013) | |
| 06:44 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: add 'memcached' as suggested dependency | |
| 06:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10243 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Holds queue is making transfer requests that contradict the branch holds policy |
| 06:44 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: Memcached on package installs |
| 06:44 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: Follow up - unset variables from koha-sites.conf if USE_MEMCACHED=no | |
| 06:44 | * Elliott Davis: Bug 7131: teach MARC import how to overlay items | |
| 06:45 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) perltidy BatchCommitItems | |
| 06:45 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) allow overlaying by barcode | |
| 06:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10962 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Update MARC21 frameworks to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013) |
| 06:45 | jenkins_koha | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) initialized some variables properly |
| 06:45 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: DBRev 3.13.00.034 | |
| 06:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Memcached on package installs |
| 06:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7131 new feature, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , way to overlay items in in marc import | |
| 06:45 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes |
| 06:45 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: (follow-up) update the command-line import tools | |
| 06:45 | Starting build #1484 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1481 14 hr ago) | |
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| 07:14 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:15 | magnuse | bug 7131 |
| 07:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7131 new feature, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , way to overlay items in in marc import |
| 07:21 | rangi | hi magnuse |
| 07:21 | magnuse | kia ora rangi! |
| 07:21 | wow, looks like i got the memcached config all wrong - i thought it was done in the apache configs... | |
| 07:23 | so hooray for bug 10733! | |
| 07:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Memcached on package installs |
| 07:26 | rangi | :) |
| 07:30 | magnuse | but i set sessions to be stored in memcached - does that mean they are defaulting to the database? hm... |
| 07:31 | rangi | not sure, easy way to find out tho :) |
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| 07:31 | reiveune1 | hello |
| 07:31 | wahanui | hello, reiveune1 |
| 07:32 | magnuse | nope, looks like the session tables are empty |
| 07:34 | and they are not in /tmp | |
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| 08:04 | magnuse | memcached config fixed, now i can look forward to watching how it plays out... |
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| 08:27 | magnuse | kia ora petter! |
| 08:29 | petter | hei magnus! |
| 08:29 | go morn | |
| 08:33 | magnuse | morn morn |
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| 08:38 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:38 | wahanui | privet, gaetan_B |
| 08:38 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1484: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1484/ |
| 08:38 | * David Cook: Bug 10078: show location facet regardless of singleBranchMode setting | |
| 08:38 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10078: (follow-up) add regression test | |
| 08:38 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10725: Add filters on the pending orders table | |
| 08:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , show location facet for all |
| 08:38 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10725 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add filters on the pending orders table | |
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| 08:50 | * magnuse | wonders if there would be any interest in a wiki page for small scripts that build on the commands provided by the packages |
| 08:52 | kivilahtio | magnuse: sounds likea good idea |
| 08:53 | a script library | |
| 08:53 | magnuse | yup |
| 08:54 | i'll create one | |
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| 09:02 | kf | hello #koha |
| 09:03 | magnuse | kia ora kf |
| 09:04 | kf | hi magnuse :) |
| 09:10 | magnuse | done: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_script_library |
| 09:41 | kivilahtio | phew finally |
| 09:41 | bug 11129 is complete and its dependencies | |
| 09:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Filtering Items based on type in opac-detail.pl |
| 09:42 | kivilahtio | anyone interested in signoffs? |
| 09:42 | How are sign offs generally achieved here? | |
| 09:43 | Is there a sign-off day when everyone just runs aroundsigning off stuff? | |
| 09:44 | petter | it was like that at the hackfest |
| 09:44 | magnuse | we have the odd bug squashing day, but the last few have not created a lot of activity |
| 09:44 | petter | the easy ones is quickly signed off, but more complicated remains |
| 09:44 | magnuse | guess we should have one soon, to squash some bugs before 3.14 freezes |
| 09:44 | basically you just have to wait for someone to want to sign off | |
| 09:45 | petter | I'm actually just now looking at importing serials, so as soon as I get it done, I can actually test your patch olli! |
| 09:45 | magnuse | or you can try to trade signoffs |
| 09:45 | "i'll sign off this for you if you sign off this for me" | |
| 09:46 | petter | i first need some serials in order to test 111129 |
| 09:46 | magnus: har du importert periodika? er det bare å bruke bulkmarcimport? | |
| 09:46 | kivilahtio | petter: I am about to go importing serials |
| 09:47 | petter: I can write a scirpt to do that, first I sign off bug 8836 | |
| 09:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8836 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Resurrect Rotating Collections |
| 09:47 | kivilahtio | but then I'll look into serials. But be aware that importing serials IS A HUGE TASK and supposedly it can't be done |
| 09:47 | magnuse | petter: i don't think i have done it |
| 09:48 | but if you just import issues as items it should not be too different from importing other items, i think | |
| 09:48 | but i'm not quite sure how it plays along with the periodicals module and subscriptions there... | |
| 09:49 | petter | yea, its quite a mystery in bibliofil as well , and I dont think anyone uses it much |
| 09:49 | magnuse | hehe |
| 09:49 | kivilahtio | petter: I started to migrate them to Evergreen, but there were some functional limitations in EG I couldn't figure out |
| 09:49 | the serials thing is very complex | |
| 09:50 | I am looking forward to solving the serials migration in Koha | |
| 09:50 | petter | Olli, do you share your import-scripts somewhere? |
| 09:51 | as an inspiration:) | |
| 09:51 | kivilahtio | petter: no i dont unfortunatelym since they are a huge mess |
| 09:51 | and undocumented | |
| 09:51 | and extremely complex | |
| 09:52 | petter: They are for our Finnish ILS PallasPro | |
| 09:52 | but I can send you the tar if you want | |
| 09:52 | magnuse | i might have to try my hand at importing some serials from BIBSYS soonish, so i'll be interested in sharing experiences |
| 09:52 | kivilahtio | the Serials part and all the newer pieces are made with Groovy/JAva |
| 09:52 | because for larger projects Java is way better | |
| 09:53 | I should have never started writing my migration scripts with Perl :( | |
| 09:53 | but little did I know back then | |
| 09:53 | petter | yeah, we couldnt get the perl:marc module to work so we, or Benjamin actually, did the conversion script in ruby |
| 09:54 | * magnuse | is perfectly happy writing his migration tools in perl |
| 09:54 | kivilahtio | magnuse: for us merging the serial numbers is hard |
| 09:54 | magnuse | migration toolbox? |
| 09:54 | wahanui | migration toolbox is https://gitorious.org/koha-migration-toolbox |
| 09:54 | magnuse | might be some nice things in there |
| 09:54 | kivilahtio | magnuse: the serial names change occaionally so it is pretty hard to merge multiple bibliographic records which deal with the same subscription |
| 09:54 | petter | ah, thanks |
| 09:57 | OK, i think i need to talk to our cataloguers first, about who, if any, actually uses the serials module | |
| 09:57 | our serials are not for check-out, so hardly anyone look at them | |
| 09:58 | kivilahtio | petter: In koha it is easy to impor the serial history records |
| 09:58 | or thats what I heard | |
| 09:58 | but quite frankly I don't understand what the big deal with migrating Serials is atm, but I think I will soon find out :) | |
| 09:58 | petter | i dont even know what serial history records are |
| 09:58 | yea, maybe we can just skip it! | |
| 09:59 | kivilahtio | petter: talk with your serials cataloguers |
| 09:59 | petter | do some spring cleaning! |
| 09:59 | kivilahtio | petter: We have some VERY passionatel serials people here |
| 09:59 | petter | olli: yepp, will do |
| 09:59 | hehe, everyone has their darlings | |
| 09:59 | its hard to let them go | |
| 09:59 | but its a question of leadership | |
| 10:00 | someone has to decide what direction we are going | |
| 10:00 | luckily its not me! | |
| 10:00 | magnuse | petter: i think it is just a question of getting the data and formatting them as items |
| 10:01 | petter | magnus: so is there no standard import method for serials? |
| 10:01 | I mean, is there even a serial marc standard? | |
| 10:02 | magnuse | dunno :-/ |
| 10:02 | ask druthb_away when she show up - she has done lots of migrations | |
| 10:02 | or ask for tips and tricks related to serials on the mailing lists | |
| 10:03 | petter | ok, I'll do some gooling first! |
| 10:03 | googing | |
| 10:03 | googling? | |
| 10:03 | magnuse | hehe |
| 10:03 | petter | sorry, can't type |
| 10:04 | magnuse | here is one example: https://gitorious.org/koha-mig[…]serials_loader.pl it might at least be interesting to see which db tables are involved etc |
| 10:06 | kivilahtio | magnuse: I was planning to use the C4::Serials module |
| 10:06 | magnuse | that sounds like a good starting point |
| 10:07 | kivilahtio | But I have gut feeling faking the serial prediction patterns might be hard |
| 10:07 | magnuse: hopefully Koha doesn't really need them | |
| 10:08 | I mean really need them for other stuff than making the predictions | |
| 10:09 | kf | petter: there are standards in MARC, but Koha and lots of other ILS don't follow them. I think serials is always a bit of a problematic migration - no mater what the ILS are |
| 10:12 | magnuse | wow, i'm properly confused by the memcached configs now |
| 10:12 | petter | kf: ok, I'm begining to realize that. It looks quite messy! |
| 10:13 | anyway, we must first discuss with our libraries what use cases they have | |
| 10:13 | kf | Koha is not so bad even I think, at least it seemed a lot simpler than Horizon in the database structure |
| 10:16 | kivilahtio | kf: agreed |
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| 10:54 | kf | @later tell oleonard - can you maybe take a look at bug 5031? |
| 10:54 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:10 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 12:19 | magnuse | hiya mtompset |
| 12:19 | mtompset | Greetings, magnuse. |
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| 12:21 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 12:23 | mtompset | Greetings, marcelr oleonard. :) |
| 12:24 | marcelr | hi mtompset |
| 12:28 | kivilahtio | kf: Any ideas if I wanted to show the analytic children a analytic record has, should I modify the xslt-templates or do I need to make a extra Zebra search for records containing hte 773w analytic link? |
| 12:29 | kf: afaik, 773w is already indexed as a search index in Zebra | |
| 12:29 | kf: It is just a matter of displaying those index results | |
| 12:29 | kf: can you give me a hint from where to start looking for a solution? | |
| 12:37 | IF I am processing XSLT-templates, is the only way to add extra-record fields by altering the XSLTParse4Display to pull extra data from Zebra to the xml-record? | |
| 12:37 | kf | kivilahtio: what do you want to do? |
| 12:38 | sorry, quite busy here, might have missed it | |
| 12:38 | kivilahtio | kf: look a bit higher, 10 rows |
| 12:38 | kf | yeah, but i still don't understand :) |
| 12:38 | kivilahtio | kf: display analytic record children in the host biblio details |
| 12:38 | kf: damn my expalantions ;) | |
| 12:38 | kf | what we do is display a link: show analytics |
| 12:38 | koha will do that for serial records right nw | |
| 12:38 | htat would be easy to customize | |
| 12:38 | kivilahtio | kf: but you don't list the titles of child records in the parent record detailed view? |
| 12:39 | kf | what we don't have (because our records are from a union catalog) is a link from the host to the analytic item |
| 12:39 | yes, because the parend does not know it has children | |
| 12:39 | magnuse | kf: not so easy to pull in the actual titles of the child records, into the parent record |
| 12:39 | kivilahtio | kf: I think adding that might be pretty easy, I am just looking ionto how the XSLT-templates are processed, doesn't look too bad |
| 12:39 | kf | there are different ways you could do that, like using an ajax search |
| 12:39 | jcamins | kivilahtio: I think you might be mistaken. |
| 12:39 | magnuse | yeah, ajax might be an option |
| 12:39 | kf | well using ajax and replacing the link with a list or similar, but we haven't done that yet |
| 12:40 | kivilahtio | what if I add the analytic children's titles to the parent record for the xslt processing duration? |
| 12:40 | jcamins | Use AJAX. |
| 12:40 | kivilahtio | in XSLTParse4Display() |
| 12:40 | my $itemsxml = buildKohaItemsNamespace($biblionumber, $hidden_items); | |
| 12:40 | my $xmlrecord = $record->as_xml(C4::Context->preference('marcflavour')); | |
| 12:40 | kf | kivilahtio: not sure how much of a performance killer that might b |
| 12:40 | e | |
| 12:40 | kivilahtio | the xslt template gets extra variables from these two places |
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| 12:41 | kivilahtio | kf: make a zebra query for the 773w index, if it has the same 001-value as the record in question |
| 12:41 | kf: should be zero performance hit for a single index search | |
| 12:41 | kf: then the child record details can be fleshed out if they are found, this is way faster than ajax | |
| 12:42 | Imagine a record with 100 child records. Ajax all of them? | |
| 12:42 | jcamins | kivilahtio: no, AJAX the resultset. |
| 12:42 | kivilahtio | well it is a problem regardless |
| 12:42 | jcamins: So only show part of the child records? | |
| 12:43 | if more than n | |
| 12:43 | jcamins | Wait, you want to embed the entire child record? I thought you wanted a list of titles. |
| 12:43 | kivilahtio | Why can't i just patch the XSLTParse4Display() ? |
| 12:43 | to include a check for bibliographic children? | |
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| 12:44 | kivilahtio | could I index an aggregate value to a zebra index? like the record id from 001, and the record title ? |
| 12:44 | jcamins | I suppose you could, if you really want to. |
| 12:45 | Not easily. You might want to read through the Zebra documentation. | |
| 12:45 | kivilahtio | jcamins: yeah that might be a pain |
| 12:45 | * jcamins | goes to be productive. |
| 12:45 | kivilahtio | jcamins: thanks ! |
| 12:48 | kf | kivilahtio: as it's ajax it should not matter if it takes a moment longe than the page load |
| 12:48 | the page load would not be affected | |
| 12:49 | not sure about your idea, you woul dhave to make another zebra search i guess, before you can embed data | |
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| 12:51 | kivilahtio | kf: but you have to make zebra searches afterward for ajax |
| 12:51 | kf: imho ajax is always pretty complex | |
| 12:51 | kf: But I'll see what I cook up | |
| 12:51 | kf: Do you have any code I could study for the ajax request? | |
| 12:53 | kf | there is some in koha, but nothing for search yet i think |
| 12:53 | kivilahtio | kf: ok |
| 12:53 | kf | i haven't done any ajaxy things myself yet |
| 12:53 | kivilahtio | kf: I'll try to figure this out. Ajax is a extra layer of complexity, and it adds more load for apache2 than non-ajax |
| 12:54 | kf: I am just really surprised that even if you have all the functionality to add more child records, there is no way to effectively display them from the parent? | |
| 12:54 | I think it should be part of the core Koha distribution out of box | |
| 12:54 | magnuse | patches welcome ;- ) |
| 12:55 | kivilahtio | magnuse: working on that. If just someone would sign them off :D |
| 12:56 | ashimema | You build the patch.. I'll happily test it ;) |
| 12:57 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I'll hold on to that :) |
| 12:58 | kf | kivilahtio: it helps when you sign off on other people's patches too ;) |
| 12:58 | kivilahtio | kf: I know |
| 12:58 | kf: too bad I don't know if we are going to proceed with Koha yet or not so I am kinda struggling to get as much done as possible | |
| 12:59 | kf: thanks for the help anyway | |
| 12:59 | kf | i saw your comments on rotating collections |
| 12:59 | kivilahtio | kf: that's not much |
| 12:59 | kf | but was not sure if it was a sign off or a fail from one of the notes |
| 13:00 | kivilahtio | kf: it was just my test result :) what should I have done? |
| 13:00 | kf: I thought you sign off pathes by doing git bz -singoff | |
| 13:00 | kf: I didn't sign off because the patch had issues | |
| 13:00 | kf | then you shoudl fail it |
| 13:00 | kivilahtio | kf: Ok, ill do that now |
| 13:01 | kf | because else they won't get fixed :) |
| 13:01 | it hoguth one note read like a problem, but ihaven't taken a look at the whole feature yet | |
| 13:01 | kivilahtio | kf: so failed QA? |
| 13:01 | kf: or patch doesnt apply? | |
| 13:01 | kf: it hasnt passed the sign off phase so I don't think I can alter the QA state | |
| 13:02 | kf | you can always fail qa |
| 13:02 | everyone can - it means that the patch needs more work | |
| 13:02 | magnuse | anyone can fail QA |
| 13:02 | what she says :-) | |
| 13:02 | kf | but of course only do so after noting why :) |
| 13:02 | else the developer might get grumpy :) | |
| 13:02 | magnuse | "patch doesnt apply" is only for when git refuses to apply the patch |
| 13:03 | kf | yep |
| 13:03 | and it needs a rebase because of conflicts | |
| 13:03 | magnuse | ...so you can't even test it |
| 13:04 | kivilahtio | kf: magnuse: roger that |
| 13:05 | ashimema | wow.. kf and magnuse are on a role here.. ;) |
| 13:06 | magnuse | that's just how we roll :-) |
| 13:08 | kivilahtio | I just rolled the Koha zebra indexes O_o |
| 13:08 | it's fun | |
| 13:08 | are you having fun? | |
| 13:09 | song of my day : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1-_XPWixSw | |
| 13:09 | kf | ashimema: great team, eh? :) |
| 13:10 | ashimema | indeed.. :) |
| 13:10 | ack.. this bug really doesn't want me to test it today. | |
| 13:10 | bug 8993 | |
| 13:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , LDAP authentication improvements: multiple branch and transformation modules |
| 13:14 | kf | it doesn't? |
| 13:14 | cnflicts? | |
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| 13:16 | ashimema | yup.. lots of conflicts.. poor Julian has rebased it for me once today already.. |
| 13:17 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 13:18 | kivilahtio | hi tcohen |
| 13:22 | magnuse | hla tcohen |
| 13:22 | s/hla/hola/ | |
| 13:22 | druthb | tcohen! magnuse! kf! |
| 13:22 | kf | druthb1 |
| 13:22 | druthb! | |
| 13:22 | @seen drofj | |
| 13:22 | huginn | kf: I have not seen drofj. |
| 13:22 | kf | @seen drojf |
| 13:22 | huginn | kf: drojf was last seen in #koha 6 days, 1 hour, 9 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <drojf> hm. looks like i seriously broke something |
| 13:22 | kf | hmm. |
| 13:23 | i hope he didn't | |
| 13:23 | druthb | seems to be a drojf shortage hereabouts. |
| 13:25 | kf | yep |
| 13:30 | druthb | moar Germans! |
| 13:38 | magnuse | druthb! |
| 13:38 | wahanui | Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
| 13:41 | kf | you don't know what you are asking for :) |
| 13:41 | trouble!! | |
| 13:41 | wahanui | i heard trouble was it seems to always give a false positive on a few fields |
| 13:41 | druthb | lol |
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| 13:51 | kf | bye all |
| 13:51 | kf left #koha | |
| 13:51 | * oleonard | doesn't recall kf getting permission to leave early |
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| 14:16 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 14:18 | jcamins | oleonard: doesn't mail.google.com go to the Gmail login screen if you're not logged in? |
| 14:19 | oleonard | No, it goes the the "sign up" page with a giant slideshow of reason to join the google hive |
| 14:20 | Then you have to click a little "sign in" link in the corner. | |
| 14:20 | jcamins | Oh. I didn't try it. |
| 14:23 | oleonard | I notice "sign out" from GMail doesn't really sign you out anymore either |
| 14:25 | jcamins | It doesn't? I never use that button. |
| 14:26 | mtompset | What do you mean it doesn't sign you out? |
| 14:27 | oleonard | If you click "sign out" from GMail you're redirected to a sign in form where it remembers your login but asks only for a password |
| 14:28 | * oleonard | notices these things because he doesn't like being tracked by Google |
| 14:29 | mtompset | oleonard: That doesn't mean they haven't signed you out. I just means they are tracking your userid. :P |
| 14:34 | rambuten | @wunder 64507 |
| 14:34 | huginn | rambuten: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 15.3°C (9:34 AM CDT on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:34 | druthb | need a cookie-shredder to actually really log out. |
| 14:35 | magnuse | you can never log out - we are all trapped in the matrix... |
| 14:36 | * druthb | takes the blue pill |
| 14:38 | tcohen | does this make sense at all Koha::Util::SystemCheck ? it will contain stuff for checking system consistency |
| 14:38 | druthb | +1 |
| 14:40 | ashimema | tcohen.. sounds like a good idea to me. |
| 14:41 | tcohen | thx |
| 14:41 | * tcohen | always struggles when starting from scratch |
| 14:46 | gmcharlt | +1 |
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| 14:55 | mtompset | What kind of inconsistencies would it catch, tcohen? |
| 14:56 | tcohen | i'm working on sysprefs |
| 14:56 | missing, obsolete, wrong values | |
| 14:56 | mtompset | +infinity. ;) |
| 14:57 | tcohen | of course it will be calculated |
| 14:57 | from sysprefs.sql and the yaml files, comparing to the DB | |
| 15:13 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Testing 10003 question" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/252 |
| 15:14 | mtompset | tcohen: What should I expect when I try to bash complete koha-enable and all the instances are enabled? |
| 15:14 | tcohen | nothing |
| 15:14 | mtompset | I'm getting "library", which is my one instance. |
| 15:15 | What do you suggest I check to see where that is coming from? | |
| 15:15 | tcohen | what does `koha-list --enabled` say? |
| 15:15 | mtompset | permission denied, followed by library. |
| 15:15 | tcohen | and also `koha-list --disabled` |
| 15:16 | ok, can u use sudo in front of is? | |
| 15:16 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9822: Alert on adding an order to a basket if budget s exceeded <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9d049597bf1faa8a> |
| 15:16 | mtompset | permission denied followed by nothing. |
| 15:16 | sudo makes the permission denied error go away, same results. | |
| 15:16 | tcohen | so library is enabled |
| 15:16 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 15:17 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #192 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 8 days 8 hr ago) |
| 15:17 | tcohen | and sudo koha-enable <tab> incorrectly shows 'library' |
| 15:17 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 15:17 | tcohen | thansk |
| 15:18 | mtompset | But I like the tab completion testing I did for koha-list. :) |
| 15:18 | The removal of opposite flags, nice. | |
| 15:18 | The removal of --help when -h is already on command line, nice. | |
| 15:18 | tcohen | it would be handy that you could sumarize what works and what doesn't so I finish polishing it |
| 15:19 | otherwise every iteration takes months | |
| 15:20 | mtompset | Mmm.... disabled library, and got the same problem with koha-disable. |
| 15:20 | i.e. koha-disable lists library. | |
| 15:20 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1485 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1481 22 hr ago) |
| 15:21 | tcohen | let me swap them and re-send |
| 15:22 | mtompset | I don't think that is the problem. |
| 15:23 | Regardless of enabled or not, it always lists library. | |
| 15:23 | marcelr | does anyone see a chance to test bug 9788; run two unit tests and follow a nine-step test plan ? |
| 15:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9788 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Improvements for calling GetReservesFromItemnumber |
| 15:24 | mtompset | I was looking at the list of commands you have for bash completion... We have a koha-enable-sip, but we don't have a koha-disable-sip?! |
| 15:25 | marcelr | kill -15 ;) |
| 15:26 | tcohen | i'd remove all the koha-{disable|enable}-* commands at all |
| 15:26 | and have koha-* --{disable|enable} | |
| 15:26 | mtompset | Yes, that would make more sense. |
| 15:28 | marcelr: I fear the nine step plan probably has various sub-steps which I, knowing nothing of library things, probably wouldn't be able to figure out. | |
| 15:28 | marcelr | mtompset: not that much |
| 15:29 | but you should know something of holds | |
| 15:30 | mtompset | And therein is my problem. |
| 15:30 | marcelr | this is a learning opportunity :) |
| 15:30 | place a hold=run opac-reserve.pl | |
| 15:34 | tcohen | mtompset: i noticed my patch was wip, wasn't the right version |
| 15:35 | mtompset | Ah. Okay. |
| 15:35 | Let me know when you have it fixed. | |
| 15:39 | tcohen | it doesn't contain the substract method for already used instances |
| 15:40 | test this one | |
| 15:40 | bbl, | |
| 15:43 | mtompset | marcelr: I've been reading the code, since I read code better than run things I'm unfamiliar with... I have a question about your test. |
| 15:43 | marcelr | yes? |
| 15:43 | mtompset: what is your question? | |
| 15:44 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Don't these change the system preference permanently?" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/253 |
| 15:44 | mtompset | Oops... I missed the lines not in the patch. ;) |
| 15:45 | Whew. sometimes it is good to make a mistake. :) | |
| 15:45 | marcelr | mtompset: there is a rollback in the test |
| 15:46 | so nothing is changed | |
| 15:46 | mtompset | That's the part I missed. :) |
| 15:46 | marcelr | but it still is a good question |
| 15:47 | mtompset | Hmmm... I just tried a prove -v t/db_dependent/Reserves.t test, and test 7 failed. |
| 15:47 | marcelr | test 7 |
| 15:47 | mtompset | not ok 7 - restrictive library's items only fill requests by own patrons (bug 10272) |
| 15:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10272 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , CheckReserves returns not respecting ReservesControlBranch |
| 15:47 | marcelr | let me look; it is not my test? |
| 15:47 | mtompset | I don't think it is related to your test. |
| 15:49 | marcelr | looks like this test is depending on some other prefs too, i guess |
| 15:49 | it works for me | |
| 15:50 | prefs or circ rules.. | |
| 15:51 | mtompset | considering I have no circulation rules, and this is basically a default install. |
| 15:51 | I guess that is to be expected. | |
| 15:51 | marcelr | yeah |
| 15:53 | mtompset | Well, the test portion ran. :) |
| 15:54 | Oh sucky. | |
| 15:54 | The holds.t is boming big time. | |
| 15:55 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 15:55 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Ideas, marcelr?" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/254 |
| 15:55 | mtompset | ideas about what is wrong, marcelr? |
| 15:56 | marcelr | branch does not exist? |
| 15:56 | some unit tests assume some branch codes | |
| 15:56 | stumbled over that more times already | |
| 15:56 | mtompset | Goodness! That's probably it. |
| 15:56 | marcelr | cpl mpl etx |
| 15:56 | etc | |
| 15:57 | yeah it is adding items to cpl | |
| 15:57 | the reserves.t checks for it, holds.t does not | |
| 15:57 | mtompset | MPL. |
| 15:57 | marcelr | if you just add a cpl to your db, you will have less problems |
| 15:57 | mtompset | I'll temporarily add that. |
| 15:57 | marcelr | and mpl |
| 15:58 | Joubu | mtompset: I made a script for creating a new db with sample data. Sample data are required (at least at the moment) for launching ut |
| 15:58 | mtompset: bug 10337 | |
| 15:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , UT: The unit tests cannot be launched by everyone |
| 15:58 | marcelr | good report |
| 15:58 | what is the discussion? joubu | |
| 15:59 | Joubu | marcelr: no discussion... |
| 16:00 | marcelr | you could change the status, you mean? |
| 16:00 | mtompset | Yes, what does the status "In Discussion" mean then? |
| 16:01 | marcelr | mtompset: thanks for looking into bug 9788; have to go now |
| 16:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9788 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Improvements for calling GetReservesFromItemnumber |
| 16:02 | Joubu | marcelr: discussionhad to be launched in a topic sent to koha-devel (date: June 4 2013 16:53 objet: Where are we on unit tests?). But no answer... |
| 16:02 | mtompset | There... CPL, and Holds.t runs just fine. |
| 16:05 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #192: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/192/ |
| 16:05 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 9822: Alert on adding an order to a basket if budget s exceeded | |
| 16:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9822 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , No alert appears on adding an order to a basket if the budget has exceeded |
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| 16:09 | kivilahtio | how are the XSLT templates localized? |
| 16:10 | <xsl:with-param name="label">Publisher: </xsl:with-param> | |
| 16:10 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 16:10 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 16.5°C (11:10 AM CDT on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Steady). Severe Thunderstorm Watch 549 in effect until 5 PM CDT this afternoon... |
| 16:10 | kivilahtio | this Publisher is displayed in the OPAC |
| 16:10 | can I just trust the translationtool to catch these barewords? | |
| 16:10 | even from the XSLT templates | |
| 16:12 | jcamins | You can, unless you are doing something "clever." |
| 16:13 | translate? | |
| 16:13 | pootle? | |
| 16:13 | wahanui | somebody said pootle was http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
| 16:13 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I hope not :) |
| 16:13 | jcamins | ^^ that may help you to see what's translated in the XSLT. |
| 16:13 | kivilahtio | I'm nottouching that :) |
| 16:14 | jcamins | You're going to have to. If you want something translated, it has to be done through Pootle. |
| 16:15 | kivilahtio | I am just happy to know that it can be translated and there are no code inside the translatable strings |
| 16:15 | I hope I don't haveto dig into translating | |
| 16:15 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 16:16 | kivilahtio | jcamins: Pasi is responsible for the translations is is currently pretty pissed off :) |
| 16:16 | jcamins: I can't deal with everything on my own | |
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| 16:16 | jcamins | Actually, Finnish is a lot farther along than I'd realized. |
| 16:17 | kivilahtio | jcamins: so I am just happy to know that things can be translated. Pasi did the OPAC I believe |
| 16:17 | jcamins | Yeah, I noticed that. |
| 16:17 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I mean he finished it |
| 16:18 | Should I call records linked via 773w -> 001 as analyitc records, if there are no items attached? | |
| 16:18 | or are they component parts | |
| 16:19 | or component records? | |
| 16:19 | or child records? | |
| 16:19 | our english to finnish bibliographic dictionary says they are Component Parts | |
| 16:19 | but haven't heard it used anywhere else | |
| 16:19 | And I have a feeling there is a lot of ambuguity about those terms | |
| 16:20 | jcamins | They're all librarian-only terms. No patron is going to be able to underestand them. |
| 16:21 | kivilahtio | but when i name HTML elements |
| 16:21 | or when naming variables, I need to know the proper terms | |
| 16:21 | so i dont go mixing up book with item and item with title | |
| 16:21 | and whatnot naming monsters can be found | |
| 16:22 | jcamins | I don't know. Maybe "child record," since we use that in other places. |
| 16:22 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 16:22 | it's not analytics for sure | |
| 16:23 | but child record is a good one | |
| 16:23 | thanks jcamins! | |
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| 16:45 | kivilahtio | C4::Search::SimpleSearch takes a CCL query, but I don't know how to correctly call the sort argument: I am trying this and some other permutations: |
| 16:45 | my ($error, $childRecordISOs, $resultSetSize) = C4::Search::SimpleSearch("rcn=$biblionumber title-sort-az"); | |
| 16:45 | But I get no results | |
| 16:45 | CCL manual @ http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/tools.html#CCL is pretty tight on how these sort options are called | |
| 16:48 | ccl.properties defines the title-sort-az as a valid parameter but no idea how to call it | |
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| 17:08 | rambutan | whoami |
| 17:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1485: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1485/ |
| 17:08 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 9822: Alert on adding an order to a basket if budget s exceeded | |
| 17:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9822 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , No alert appears on adding an order to a basket if the budget has exceeded |
| 17:12 | mtompset | rambutan: whoami? You have some identity crisis? :) |
| 17:17 | kivilahtio | whoami |
| 17:17 | macros? | |
| 17:19 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 17:21 | jcamins | whoami? |
| 17:21 | wahanui | Jean Valjean! |
| 17:22 | kivilahtio | lol I got the child records to show! |
| 17:23 | awsum! | |
| 17:23 | nice to meet you Jean! | |
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| 17:24 | mtompset | http://youtu.be/HPIos2mXbUE (Who am I? Les Mis) |
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| 17:45 | tcohen | did it work mtompset ? |
| 17:46 | mtompset | Haven't had a chance to play further, sorry. |
| 17:46 | I switched to 9788. | |
| 17:46 | I'm just about to finish signing off the second unsigned piece. | |
| 17:47 | tcohen | np |
| 17:58 | rambutan | mtompset: we had quite a thunderstorm for a short period of time--it just gooshed rain, and we had a power outage, so I was running around checking equipment |
| 17:59 | mtompset | saan? |
| 17:59 | rambutan | somehow, though my computer didn't lose power, my nick spontaneously changed |
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| 18:08 | mtompset | oh shoot. I should have run the qa-test-tool on the patch before signing off. DOH! |
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| 18:09 | magnuse | mtompset: it's never too late to fail qa ;-) |
| 18:09 | rambutan | so QA (should?) comes before signoff? |
| 18:09 | mtompset | does it make sense to jump from needs signoff to failed qa?! |
| 18:10 | rangi | yes |
| 18:10 | why waste the qa teams time | |
| 18:10 | magnuse | yep, any problems with a patch results in failed qa |
| 18:10 | rambutan | trying to recall Paul's (and Brendan's) presentation |
| 18:10 | magnuse | workflow? |
| 18:10 | wahanui | workflow is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
| 18:11 | magnuse | it should all be there ^ |
| 18:11 | tcohen | mtompset: i would first test the patch functionality, then comment about that AND maybe about the qa tools report |
| 18:11 | for people writing large pieces of code it is not helpful to start polishing that | |
| 18:11 | mtompset | Well, the my hiding the scope inside of the little test is inconsequentially, really. |
| 18:11 | rangi | if the qa tools report throws errors definitely mark it failed qa, unless you are going to fix them yourself |
| 18:12 | don't sign off on something you know is going to fail qa | |
| 18:12 | that just wastes everyones time | |
| 18:12 | if you dont know, thats fine | |
| 18:12 | mtompset | True... but this was an after thought, while testing a secondary patch in a 4 patch series. |
| 18:12 | rangi | and qa people do (and most defintely should) check functionality too |
| 18:12 | rambutan | but only a QA person can fail a patch, right |
| 18:12 | rangi | no |
| 18:13 | anyone in the world can fail a patch | |
| 18:13 | mtompset | woo hoo! fail them all! ;) |
| 18:13 | tcohen | if you take the time to test, please test the funtionality if you can |
| 18:13 | and contact the developer directly for minor tweaks he/she might do | |
| 18:13 | rangi | and fail it |
| 18:14 | or leave it needs signoff | |
| 18:14 | tcohen | yes, of course, don't sign on it |
| 18:14 | rangi | but seriously, people have limited time, about the worst thing you can do is find a problem, not fail it, and not comment |
| 18:15 | cos then someone else will just do the same thing | |
| 18:16 | jcamins | I can confirm that, from my experience as RM. |
| 18:16 | rangi | personally i would much prefer an early fail, than a patch that sits for ages :) |
| 18:16 | that at least gives me a cahnce to fix it | |
| 18:17 | (the qa tools are really not very stringent at all, most fails are just an accident and easy to fix) | |
| 18:17 | mtompset | I obsoleted my signed off version, with the comment as to why I did so, and then unobsoleted the unsigned version. |
| 18:18 | rangi | cool |
| 18:19 | * rangi | has to make breakfast for kids now, bbiab |
| 18:21 | tcohen | is it easy to test SIP related patcheS? |
| 18:22 | i managed to run the tests but they all seem to fail | |
| 18:23 | mtompset | so, tcohen, if I build a .deb from master+bug 10003, then try testing, it should work now? |
| 18:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10003 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-* scripts (packages) should provide tab-completion in bash |
| 18:24 | tcohen | you already tested the file is included/installed, just grab the new file and use . file |
| 18:24 | to inject it to your env | |
| 18:28 | magnuse | mtompset++ |
| 18:29 | mtompset | grab new file? |
| 18:33 | tcohen | git checkout origin/master -b qa_10003 ; git bz apply 10003 ; . debian/koha-common.bash-completion ; test |
| 18:37 | mtompset | that's not working? |
| 18:37 | I don't have packages installed on my git machine. | |
| 18:38 | talljoy | egad moving 440 to 490/830 on aarome. and it is taking forever. must be on italian time |
| 18:38 | or rt time. | |
| 18:38 | :-D | |
| 18:39 | that rt joke went flat - helps if i type it in the right window. | |
| 18:39 | lol | |
| 18:39 | kivilahtio | how do I make CCL queries in Koha? |
| 18:40 | where do I type this rcn,st-numeric>1000 ? | |
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| 18:40 | magnuse | kia ora trea! |
| 18:40 | kivilahtio | Search the catalog? |
| 18:40 | hmm | |
| 18:41 | trea | kia ora magnuse |
| 18:41 | how's Norway today? | |
| 18:41 | magnuse | windy! |
| 18:41 | and wet. and cold. | |
| 18:41 | @wunder boo | |
| 18:41 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 PM CET on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:42 | magnuse | but apart from that its not too bad :-) |
| 18:42 | druthb | brr |
| 18:42 | trea | indeed. we're seeing a patch of that as well today |
| 18:42 | which is putting a cramp in my trick or treating plans later | |
| 18:42 | magnuse | trea: aren't you supposed to be approaching summer? |
| 18:42 | trea | yeah, suppose to :P |
| 18:42 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 18:42 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 25.6°C (1:42 PM CDT on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:42 | magnuse | :-) |
| 18:43 | or did you use up the summer weather for the next x years last summer? | |
| 18:43 | talljoy | you still have rain in houston druthb? |
| 18:43 | trea | ha! probably so magnuse |
| 18:43 | druthb | off and on, talljoy. We're supposed to get *really* soaked tomorrow. |
| 18:44 | "Localized street and bayou flooding." | |
| 18:44 | talljoy | we are drizzly here. but so far no bayou flooding called for in the Fort. |
| 18:44 | eek | |
| 18:44 | druthb | we're expecting up to 2" in the next 24 hours. |
| 18:45 | talljoy | golly |
| 18:45 | mtompset | @wunder l7e 5y5 |
| 18:45 | huginn | mtompset: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson Int'L. Ont., Ontario is 10.0°C (2:00 PM EDT on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:45 | talljoy | @wunder 76109 |
| 18:45 | huginn | talljoy: The current temperature in Cedar Creek Townhomes, Benbrook, Texas is 21.5°C (1:42 PM CDT on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:45 | mtompset | It was -4 the other night. |
| 18:45 | druthb | Just enough to make the city emergency management people a little edgy. |
| 18:45 | talljoy | i imagine so. |
| 18:45 | all the rain seems to be east and south of me and down your way | |
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| 19:28 | mtompset | AH HA! I had to sudo apt-get install bash-completion in the build environment. |
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| 19:46 | mtompset | tcohen: I just go to the point where I can test again... |
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| 19:50 | mtompset | tcohen: Didn't you handle the library listing problem? |
| 19:54 | mrenvoize | Sounds like your testing bug 10003.. Funnily enough I was also about to start playing with that. |
| 19:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10003 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-* scripts (packages) should provide tab-completion in bash |
| 19:54 | mrenvoize | How's it going |
| 19:55 | mtompset | Haven't gotten very far. |
| 19:55 | pianohacker | heya mrenvoize |
| 19:55 | * chris_n | thanks jcamins for pointing him toward yerba mate |
| 19:56 | jcamins | chris_n: amazing, isn't it? |
| 19:56 | chris_n | quite |
| 19:56 | mrenvoize | Evening pianohacker |
| 19:57 | pianohacker | chris_n: Hey there. Been a while |
| 19:58 | chris_n | heya pianohacker |
| 19:58 | wahanui | well, pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems. |
| 19:59 | * chris_n | is out of the office more than in lately |
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| 21:08 | wizzyrea | can you clone from our git repo via http? or only git:// |
| 21:08 | jcamins | Both are supposed to work. |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | (and is the url the same on either protocol?) |
| 21:08 | jcamins | Unless you mean to be asking that on a different channel, in which case I have no idea. |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | i'd been having trouble with http |
| 21:08 | * wizzyrea | tries it from a different machine |
| 21:09 | jcamins | I think you just replace git:// with http://, but I'm not sure. |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | hm, it just hangs. |
| 21:09 | naw, I meant this channel :) | |
| 21:09 | our = koha-community's | |
| 21:10 | jcamins | Hm. Then I'm not sure. |
| 21:10 | * wizzyrea | has a server that doesn't allow traffic on git:// but definitely does on http |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | and that's the one I need to clone to, naturally. |
| 21:10 | jcamins | At the very least, it used to work. |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | righty-o. ping gmcharlt |
| 21:11 | jcamins | Because I had a server that was firewalled against git, but would allow me to clone with http. |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | cool, that means it must have changed at some point |
| 21:11 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: I can happily update my github real quick if need be |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | or I'm doing something wrong (probably more likely) |
| 21:11 | jcamins | Or, more likely, I don't remember the secret handshake. |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | hm I could try the github clone, that's a good point |
| 21:12 | it definitely speaks http | |
| 21:12 | pianohacker: thank you for the offer, I think mtj has a github that's up to date already | |
| 21:13 | pianohacker | kk cool :) |
| 21:13 | needed to update that anyway | |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | pianohacker++ good idea cloning from github |
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| 21:38 | wizzyrea | lol, pianohacker - which is your github? |
| 21:38 | the official one from github isn't totally up to date. | |
| 21:39 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: one sec |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | I'm a bottomless pit of needs today ;) |
| 21:41 | pianohacker | 720 kbps woohah |
| 21:41 | fast lane woop woop | |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 21:43 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: http://github.com/pianohacker/koha.git should be up and running |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | pianohacker++ |
| 21:43 | thanks <# | |
| 21:43 | <3 | |
| 21:44 | pianohacker | no prob, thanks for poking me to update it :) |
| 21:48 | talljoy | hey #koha i'm trying to narrow down the search 'facet' for library branch in the OPAC. Does that limit the results based on homebranch or holdingbranch? |
| 21:49 | * wizzyrea | guesses homebranch |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | because that makes more sense than holdingbranch |
| 21:49 | jcamins might know better. | |
| 21:49 | talljoy | i've had one guess at holding and now one at home. split decision |
| 21:49 | we need a tie breaker ;-) | |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | the code knows :P |
| 21:49 | talljoy | indeed. any clue what bit that would be in search.pm? |
| 21:50 | my initial tests point to homebranch like you say. but i'd like to verify | |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | I think it's in C4::Koha - getfacets |
| 21:52 | 952b | |
| 21:52 | jcamins | That's correct. |
| 21:52 | talljoy | just saw that pesky tag in there. |
| 21:53 | awesome. thanks y'all | |
| 21:53 | so that is holdingbranch then | |
| 21:53 | interesting | |
| 21:53 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 21:53 | talljoy | heh |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | hm that doesn't make a lot of sense, but is good to know |
| 21:54 | talljoy | well it does and it doesn't. |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | I suppose there's tension between knowing where it is and where it belongs |
| 21:54 | talljoy | for a library with floating collections where it is is more important than 'who technically owns it' |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | we just said the same thing :) |
| 21:54 | talljoy | indeed. |
| 21:55 | but you said it with a NZ accent | |
| 21:55 | and i didn't get it. | |
| 21:55 | heh | |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | yea, is this for intranet or opac? |
| 21:55 | talljoy | opac |
| 21:55 | * wizzyrea | doesn't have much of a kiwi accent |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | except for maybe the way I say "wellington" |
| 21:55 | talljoy | then if you ever come back stateside, you must be sure to order beef wellington at every meal |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 21:56 | magnuse | wizzyrea: you don't call the place you sleep "biiiiid" yet?!? |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | nor do I have parties on my "dick" |
| 21:56 | magnuse | lol |
| 21:56 | talljoy | LOL |
| 21:56 | magnuse | sweet as... |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | you might get the occasional "yiis" for "yes" |
| 21:57 | and I might ask you how you're going, and answer you with "yeah... naw" | |
| 21:57 | talljoy | that one confuses me. |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | and append any verb with "as" |
| 21:58 | jcamins | Ooh. I just found an easter egg in the site used by our farm. |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | "how you going?" "busy as!" |
| 21:58 | jcamins | Hit escape twice, and it brings you to the config page. |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | oooo! |
| 21:58 | jcamins | Thankfully it requires a login. |
| 21:58 | * wizzyrea | imagines you haxxoring them :) |
| 21:59 | talljoy | and getting extra chard in your order |
| 21:59 | wizzyrea | yeah naw is a great kiwism |
| 21:59 | jcamins | talljoy: bok choi for me, please! |
| 21:59 | :D | |
| 21:59 | talljoy | mmmmm bok choi |
| 21:59 | but i do love chard | |
| 21:59 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srE57FURiZU |
| 21:59 | talljoy | i have it growing on my back patio right now. |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZXlrkaYXkA |
| 22:01 | talljoy | i may steal that 'no more beersies for you' |
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| 22:05 | wizzyrea | wullington. |
| 22:07 | pianohacker | I remember talking to a couple of floridians that were very confused as to why I said "Coluhrado" instead of "Colorado" |
| 22:07 | took a good minute or two to figure out what they even meant | |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | i got teased for an entire week about the way I prounce "internet" |
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| 22:07 | wizzyrea | pronounce |
| 22:07 | talljoy | clearly? |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | in ter net |
| 22:07 | instead of innuhneht | |
| 22:08 | talljoy | oh my |
| 22:08 | cait | hi |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | good natured teasing, of course. :) |
| 22:08 | talljoy | hi cait! |
| 22:08 | wahanui | hi cait! are you safely back in germany now? |
| 22:08 | cait | hi talljoy :) |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 22:08 | cait | wahanui - yes? |
| 22:08 | wahanui | cait: wish i knew |
| 22:08 | cait | heh |
| 22:08 | hi wizzyrea | |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | forget hi cait! |
| 22:09 | magnuse | hi cait! |
| 22:09 | wahanui | hi cait! are you safely back in germany now? |
| 22:09 | pianohacker | ahahahahaha |
| 22:09 | wizzyrea | "how are you?" "i'm a box of birds!" did get me the first time |
| 22:09 | or "I'm a box of fluffy ducks!" | |
| 22:09 | this appeals to my literary spirit of course. | |
| 22:09 | cait | hi magnuse and pianohacker :) |
| 22:09 | did i miss a #koha party? | |
| 22:10 | magnuse | always! |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | yeah, naw. |
| 22:10 | pianohacker | yeah, we're all leaving now |
| 22:11 | magnuse | nah, there's always a party on #koha! |
| 22:12 | talking of which: my apologies for torturing y'all with "the fox". here's some norwegian music actually worth listening to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kv5RM0kABY and a video worth watching to boot! | |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | ring ding ding ding dingeringading |
| 22:14 | * wizzyrea | bets small-magnuse loves it |
| 22:14 | magnuse | that is so last month! ;-) |
| 22:14 | we have tried to shield him from it, a bit | |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | lol. |
| 22:15 | totally better to get 'c is for cookie' stuck in your head. | |
| 22:15 | magnuse | ? |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BovQyphS8kA |
| 22:16 | cait | magnuse: blocked from here :( guess i am stuck with what does the fox say? |
| 22:16 | magnuse | found it ;-) |
| 22:16 | cait | what does the fox say? |
| 22:16 | wahanui | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE |
| 22:16 | magnuse | cait: blocked? too bad! |
| 22:17 | cait | c is for cookie... |
| 22:17 | that work | |
| 22:17 | wahanui | it has been said that that work is pretty complete now, i hope eythian and srdjan will get around to submitting a patch |
| 22:17 | cait | s |
| 22:17 | of course | |
| 22:18 | talljoy | i am going to have nightmares now |
| 22:19 | magnuse | about foxes? |
| 22:19 | talljoy | yes |
| 22:19 | cait | heh |
| 22:19 | but when he meets a friendly horse... | |
| 22:19 | talljoy | and speaking m-o-o-o-o-rse |
| 22:19 | oy | |
| 22:19 | cait | hehe |
| 22:19 | magnuse | lol |
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| 22:20 | wizzyrea | I think the best bit is where the fox starts scat singing. |
| 22:20 | talljoy | are foxes sacred in norway magnuse? |
| 22:20 | magnuse | talljoy: yeah, we think of them as angels in disguise ;-) |
| 22:20 | talljoy | heh |
| 22:21 | clearly | |
| 22:21 | magnuse | and guardian angels |
| 22:21 | cait | lol |
| 22:22 | your fur is red... so beautifuuul | |
| 22:22 | oy | |
| 22:22 | i got 247 mails in my qa inbox from today??ß | |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea | bug bot |
| 22:22 | magnuse | cait: we all got super busy just to keep you happy :-) |
| 22:23 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 22:23 | * magnuse | will soon get to spend much more time on koha - w00t! |
| 22:24 | cait | woohoo :) |
| 22:27 | magnuse | here's a quote y'all can love to hate: "[syslog-ng] has grown over the years from open source software to a full-fledged, commercial-grade software with varying levels of enterprise-level support options available." from http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781597496353.do |
| 22:28 | talljoy | hrm... |
| 22:29 | magnuse | and with that i bid y'all a good night or other time of the day ;-) |
| 22:29 | talljoy | good night! |
| 22:29 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, talljoy. |
| 22:29 | talljoy | wahanui, i'm not leaving |
| 22:29 | wahanui | talljoy: what? |
| 22:29 | talljoy | sshhhhh |
| 22:34 | cait | hreh |
| 22:40 | * jcamins | is making cauliflower-stone soup. |
| 22:41 | cait | stone? |
| 22:42 | cjh | the boiling will soften them up. |
| 22:42 | cait | aaaah |
| 22:42 | and i always tried to eat them raw... | |
| 22:42 | jcamins | cait: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Soup |
| 22:44 | This still needs something else. | |
| 22:45 | cait | jcamins: that does explain history |
| 22:46 | but not really what you are doing :) | |
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| 22:46 | cait | if you are not asking villagers for ingredients... |
| 22:47 | :) | |
| 22:49 | * talljoy | throws a clove of garlic jcamins way |
| 22:50 | * cait | throws some swiss cheese |
| 22:51 | jcamins | cait: I am starting with something, tasting it, and declaring it needs something else, until it's a completely different soup. |
| 22:53 | I think this broth was mislabeled. | |
| 22:53 | It should've been beef broth. | |
| 22:53 | I think it's actually pickling broth. | |
| 22:55 | cait | pickling... like fish? |
| 22:55 | ah no something else | |
| 22:57 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: pong |
| 22:59 | jcamins | cait: like corned beef. |
| 23:00 | cait | hm, hope i didn't get but 11173 wrong |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | oh gmcharlt - my question was about git.koha-community.org |
| 23:04 | was wondering if http cloning was working | |
| 23:04 | it seems not to be. | |
| 23:05 | and 1. if you knew that and 2. if that was intentional | |
| 23:05 | edveal joined #koha | |
| 23:05 | wizzyrea | and 3. if it could be working someday (cuz'n that would be handy) |
| 23:08 | gmcharlt | cait: eh, things like 11173 are reasons why overhauling the template system for notices would be a Good Thing |
| 23:08 | cait | i kinda like the option to send text messages... while i can see why some prefer html |
| 23:08 | and html is great for the slips | |
| 23:09 | but if i have html, i want to dictate the layout with that and not have the program do it'sown thing | |
| 23:09 | i think | |
| 23:09 | gmcharlt | hence while a better templating engine (like, conveniently, Template Toolkit) would be nice |
| 23:09 | as it would ease support all of those options | |
| 23:09 | *supporting | |
| 23:10 | cait | people might still argue about line breaks :) |
| 23:10 | gmcharlt | but such arguments could be confined to the templates, and not touch the code :) |
| 23:11 | cait | hm |
| 23:11 | not sure i understand the difference here and there... but a nicer template system would be great | |
| 23:14 | long day should sleep soon | |
| 23:17 | pianohacker | sleep, eh |
| 23:17 | * ashimema | is also sleepy |
| 23:17 | and is mid fixing a server he broke earlier :( | |
| 23:18 | pianohacker | oh hey martin. nice username :) |
| 23:20 | * cait | sends coffee and cookies |
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| 23:24 | ashimema | pianhacker.. that's me ;) |
| 23:25 | cheers cait | |
| 23:25 | ack.. and again with my typo's | |
| 23:26 | yeay.. I unbroked zebra. | |
| 23:30 | cait | yay! |
| 23:31 | wizzyrea | yayee! |
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| 23:36 | pianohacker | good night :) |
| 23:44 | ashimema | night y'all |
| 23:46 | cait | night |
| 23:49 | talljoy | ok, i'm off for wine. no dinner, just wine. ./blarg |
| 23:49 | jcamins | talljoy: and wine is a bad thing? |
| 23:49 | wizzyrea | eating with wine is encouraged. |
| 23:49 | talljoy | not at all. |
| 23:49 | wizzyrea | reduces the amount of falling down. |
| 23:50 | talljoy | true, but i think i'll be on the couch, so no danger of falling. |
| 23:50 | except falling asleep. | |
| 23:50 | wizzyrea | then drink up ;) |
| 23:51 | talljoy | yiis |
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