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| 00:20 | bag | heya tcohen |
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| 00:26 | tcohen | Dallas |
| 00:26 | nice huge airport :-D | |
| 00:28 | bag | yes that's a big airport |
| 00:29 | tcohen | Terminal D is fresh and comfortable |
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| 01:05 | mtompset | bag: Are you still here? |
| 01:06 | Oh, 30 minutes... you probably aren't. Oh well. :( | |
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| 01:30 | eythian | wahanui: migration toolbox |
| 01:30 | wahanui | i think migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
| 01:32 | eythian | no wahanui, migration toolbox is https://gitorious.org/koha-migration-toolbox |
| 01:32 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 01:42 | eythian | wahanui: csvtomarc |
| 01:42 | wahanui | the latest version is at https://gitorious.org/+catalys[…]migration-toolbox - improvements welcome |
| 01:44 | eythian | no wahanui csvtomarc is <reply>the latest version is at https://www.gitorious.org/koha[…]migration-toolbox (in migration/Generic) - improvements welcome. |
| 01:44 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 04:02 | mtompset | when you clone a subfield, should the value be copied? |
| 04:02 | eythian | I'd expect so |
| 04:19 | mtompset | Shoot. :( That busts the way bug 6874 is done. |
| 04:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
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| 04:27 | mtompset | Greetings, papa. |
| 04:35 | Does it make sense to have a biblio record with multiple URLs? | |
| 04:38 | I guess I should sleep on this. Have a great day, #koha. | |
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| 06:00 | * BobB | returns to his desk. |
| 06:00 | BobB | Hi #koha |
| 06:00 | Thanks to all our new friends in Washoe County for a great KohaCon and Hackfest | |
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| 06:31 | johnbljr | Good afternoon...at least for me.... ;-) |
| 06:35 | mtj | hi BobB , johnbljr |
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| 06:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:37 | johnbljr | Wondering is anyone has any good z39.5 libraries that have already cataloged Scholastic books. Having a hard time finding any of the scholastic books for the school that I work at. |
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| 06:44 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:45 | magnuse | howdy Irma and BobB |
| 06:47 | mtj | johnbljr, hmm… i know of some school libraries in the pacific. but, i'm not sure if they have public z39 access |
| 06:48 | johnbljr | mtj , any names I can search for in IRSpy? |
| 06:48 | mtj | johnbljr, a good question for the Koha mailing-list |
| 06:49 | johnbljr | How do I get to the koha mailing list? |
| 06:50 | I found it...I will post the question there. | |
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| 06:53 | mtj | johnbljr, cool |
| 06:53 | i thought ASHS school, in NZ might have z39 access? -- but, i am not sure, sorry... | |
| 06:57 | johnbljr | mtj they are not showing on irspy |
| 06:57 | no worries though | |
| 07:00 | BobB | hi magnuse |
| 07:01 | johnbljr, I am not sure how well IRSpy is kept up to date | |
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| 07:02 | johnbljr | I just searched the mailing list archive and one member says the Access PA library is good for Scholastic books...I will try that. |
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| 07:05 | johnbljr | Access PA and OhioLink seem to be pretty good based on a few searches. |
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| 07:25 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:37 | magnuse | bonjour gaetan_B |
| 07:37 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:37 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:37 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:37 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 17.0°C (9:30 AM CEST on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:37 | magnuse | you win :-) |
| 07:38 | gaetan_B | @wunder paris |
| 07:38 | huginn | gaetan_B: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:38 | gaetan_B | O_o |
| 07:38 | kivilahtio | hey any idea where can i see from which Zebra indexes different searches search. Like when I do a title search in opac-search.pl, i get the following urlopac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=rock |
| 07:38 | gaetan_B | well, you'll have to take my word for it, but it's warmer in Paris than in bodo magnuse ;) |
| 07:39 | kivilahtio | where is idx=ti defined? From which Zebra indexes those searches are pulled from? |
| 07:40 | I already found the koha_to_zebra.xml indexing rules | |
| 07:40 | magnuse | @wunder paris, france |
| 07:40 | kivilahtio | but where are the search "aggregators" defined? |
| 07:40 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Paris-centre, France is 13.6°C (9:40 AM CEST on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:40 | magnuse | gaetan_B: i believe you :-) |
| 07:41 | kivilahtio: have you seen http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Zebra_indexing ? | |
| 07:42 | kivilahtio | magnuse: Yes, looking at it |
| 07:42 | wahanui | rumour has it looking at it is exactly what I was hoping for. :) |
| 07:43 | kivilahtio | but I have a gut feeling this might be more complex |
| 07:43 | no wait here at the end | |
| 07:43 | lemme see | |
| 07:45 | What is this for then? biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml | |
| 07:45 | zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml | |
| 07:45 | Canthis really honest to god be so simple as this wiki page lets me assume? | |
| 07:49 | but I can't find no idx=ti from marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs | |
| 07:49 | I assume it is a shorthand for title | |
| 07:49 | and somewhere in code there are translation tables for these shorthands? | |
| 07:55 | nevermind I'll dig into the code deep after my breakfast | |
| 07:56 | sorry for bothering you with a solution I could have solved | |
| 08:03 | sophie_m | kivilahtio: look into ccl.properties, some aliases for indexes are defined there |
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| 08:17 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 08:51 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
| 08:51 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 08:52 | BobB | kivilahtio, there are two filters: GRS1 and DOM and you choose one; DOM is now recommended but many installations are still GRS1 |
| 08:53 | for GRS1 refer to record.abs; for DOM refer to biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml | |
| 08:53 | I just learnt that at Koha Hackfest :) | |
| 08:59 | magnuse | yay! |
| 09:07 | kivilahtio | BobB: great! How do I know which one I have in use? I don't think I remember such a selection during installation? |
| 09:08 | BobB: I am using Koha 3.12 | |
| 09:09 | or I think I am using the latest master currently | |
| 09:09 | I know I am using the latest master | |
| 09:09 | but I installed the v3.12 | |
| 09:10 | Is there any way to automatically fill the Koha Item Type when adding Items? | |
| 09:10 | There is a SubfieldsToUseWhenPrefill and PrefillItems global preferences | |
| 09:10 | but I don't think they can help here | |
| 09:21 | magnuse | kivilahtio: i think koha-conf.xml will tell you which mode you are using |
| 09:22 | "automatically fill the Koha Item Type" - in which context? migration of data or manual entry of new records and items? | |
| 09:23 | kivilahtio | magnuse: manual entry of new records |
| 09:24 | magnuse | you can set a default value in the framework |
| 09:24 | kivilahtio | magnuse: hmm, now i see that i didnt set the item type when adding an item and now when i am editing it there is a item type |
| 09:25 | magnuse | but do you only have items of one type? |
| 09:25 | kivilahtio | magnuse: 3 types, but the default seems to be the first one, the same on as the biblios default item type |
| 09:25 | magnuse | if you set the itemtype in 942 (is it $c?) it will be carried over to 952 |
| 09:26 | kivilahtio | magnuse: I thought such data is no longer stored in the Zebra DB? |
| 09:26 | I mean item related data | |
| 09:27 | magnuse | items were removed from the marcxml and marc fields in the mysql database, but they are indexed by zebra |
| 09:27 | kivilahtio | magnuse: ok, but there are no limitations to serials use regardless, such limitations as in v3.4? |
| 09:28 | magnuse | limit on the number of items? |
| 09:28 | kivilahtio | I think there were huge performance issues with lots of serials, but I am seeing such problems as well now that I am adding a ton of serials to the Koha |
| 09:28 | magnuse | performance was one of the reasons for removing items from marc/marcxml columns |
| 09:29 | kivilahtio | problems such as Home › Cataloging › Edit (Record #26484) › Items ... where the hundreds of items we have in our library cooperation are just showed in one table |
| 09:29 | magnuse | but if you have thousands of items connected to one record there might still be surprises, i guess |
| 09:29 | kivilahtio | magnuse: ok, just making sure :) |
| 09:29 | magnuse | :-) |
| 09:29 | kivilahtio | magnuse: yes there will be, but they are not critical issues, I think we can find a solution to them |
| 09:33 | magnuse | yay! |
| 09:33 | kivilahtio | magnuse: the situation here is really strange |
| 09:34 | magnuse: we need to apparently solve national issues with local resources :) | |
| 09:34 | magnuse: crazy! | |
| 09:34 | magnuse: I didn't sign up for that, but lets see what comes out of it :) I am certain something good | |
| 09:35 | just nee to vent stuff out, thanks for helping | |
| 09:37 | magnuse | hehe |
| 10:11 | @quote random | |
| 10:11 | huginn | magnuse: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:58 PM, July 10, 2009) |
| 10:26 | kivilahtio | Is there any way to search for a specific serial number? |
| 10:26 | If not I am about to start working on that functionality | |
| 10:30 | magnuse | kivilahtio: do you mean like "vol 23 issue 34"? |
| 10:39 | kivilahtio | magnuse: yes, I was planning to implement a search to OPAC and staff client where we can search for the volume, number/issue, branch and starting/ending date |
| 10:39 | magnuse: this is because we need to be able to place a hold on a specific item easily | |
| 10:40 | magnuse: not sure if there is any sense to it, but I am said it is crucial to server our patrons | |
| 10:41 | so they are interested in vol 2013 : number 12 and want to know if it is available easily | |
| 10:41 | in their home branch | |
| 10:41 | magnuse | today you would have to just browse the list of issues to do that, i think |
| 10:41 | kivilahtio | also we need to find a way to make extra notes about issues. One issue could be a christmas extra |
| 10:41 | magnuse: yes | |
| 10:42 | magnuse: this is problematic when we have 20 libraries with 12 issues a year for the past 5 years | |
| 10:42 | magnuse | i wonder if that data is sufficiently structured, though |
| 10:42 | kivilahtio | that makes 1200 issues |
| 10:42 | its great that there are the top n most recent issues already, but if we have lots of branches the views will become totally incomprehensible | |
| 10:43 | I was planning to target the enumeration field | |
| 10:43 | magnuse | if it is just stored as "vol x, issue y" it will be hard to differentiate between e.g. "vol. 4, issue 5" and "vol. 5, issue 4" |
| 10:43 | oh well, lunchtime | |
| 10:43 | wahanui | lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting |
| 10:44 | kivilahtio | magnuse: I know, but this is what I aim to provide a solution for |
| 10:44 | I think there needs to be some kind of a unified way of labeling the enumeration | |
| 10:45 | and that label needs to be defined in the global preferences | |
| 10:45 | but I am more worried about the UI modifications | |
| 10:45 | But I have a solution thanks to javascript and the awesome jQuery you use | |
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| 10:51 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 10:51 | kivilahtio | drojf: hi there |
| 10:51 | wahanui | que tal, kivilahtio |
| 10:51 | drojf | is git terribly slow or is it just me? |
| 10:52 | hi kivilahtio | |
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| 10:55 | drojf | looks like it is the horrible university wifi again |
| 11:09 | kivilahtio | bug 11129 |
| 11:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Limiting the display of Serial issues OR Searching a specific Serial issue |
| 11:10 | kivilahtio | if I start with this do I waste my time? |
| 11:10 | or yours? | |
| 11:10 | wahanui | hmmm... yours is better actually |
| 11:10 | kivilahtio | good boy wahanui |
| 11:11 | Couldn't find any conflicting bugs in bugzilla | |
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| 11:21 | jcamins | kivilahtio: I'm not sure that what you propose is possible at this time. With Zebra you can't search for a part of a record. So a search for "vol. 4, issue 5" will just return the entire record. |
| 11:22 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I know, but I will embed the search filte to opac-detail.pl and Staff client |
| 11:22 | jcamins | Ah. That will not involve Zebra, then. |
| 11:22 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I am not planning to extend Zebra god no! But to make a filter to serials views. |
| 11:23 | jcamins | Got it. |
| 11:23 | That makes sense. | |
| 11:23 | kivilahtio | Base class package "DBIx::Class::Schema" is empty. |
| 11:23 | I got this? | |
| 11:23 | at http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]members/member.pl | |
| 11:23 | jcamins | You need to install DBIx::Class. |
| 11:23 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 11:24 | why I didnät figure it out immediately :) | |
| 11:25 | jcamins: Thanks for the review! | |
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| 11:42 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 11:43 | kivilahtio | greetings mtompset |
| 11:43 | mtompset | Greetings, kivilahtio. |
| 11:43 | kivilahtio | mtompset: A guestion if you may? |
| 11:43 | mtompset | Perhaps, but I never guarantee answers. :) |
| 11:43 | kivilahtio | mtompset: How do you manage quickly circulating items? |
| 11:44 | mtompset: we have a new book and we need to limit its circulation period so everybody can have their share | |
| 11:44 | mtompset: Isn't there a functionality which allows the check-out period to change based on the amount of holds placed? | |
| 11:45 | can you somehow set a book to circulate faster? and then revert back to normal circulation speed | |
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| 11:46 | mtompset | kivilahtio: Have you tried reading the manual? Because, to be honest, I don't know the answer. |
| 11:47 | jwagner | kivilahtio, why not give it an item type with a short circ rule? Then change item type to a more normal one once the first demand is past |
| 11:47 | i.e., NEWBOOK with one week loan period, vs BOOK with three week loan period | |
| 11:49 | kivilahtio | jwagner: we would need a quickly circulating item type for each item type we have and that is a pain regarding all the views where itemtypes are dealt with |
| 11:49 | jwagner: but I was thinking about having just one quick circulating item type | |
| 11:49 | jwagner | that would work |
| 11:49 | kivilahtio | we could run the reports and statistics based on the bibliographic records koha default item type |
| 11:50 | I don't think we have a need to have the biblio in differnt item type than its items | |
| 11:51 | mtompset | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/en/patscirc.html |
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| 11:53 | mtompset | changing the checkout-period based on the number of holds sounds like a potentially useful feature. |
| 11:53 | kivilahtio | mtompset: I think it was already in Koha? |
| 11:53 | mtompset: Or maybe i mix it up | |
| 11:53 | jcamins | kivilahtio: setting item type at biblio level or item level is an either/or proposition. You can't set the item type at both levels, and have both settings have an impact. |
| 11:53 | kivilahtio | jcamins: if we configure our system preference to use the item's itemtype to deal with circulation rules |
| 11:54 | then it should work, while still retaining a trace of the item's original itemtype in the bibliographic record | |
| 11:54 | jcamins | In that case, bib-level item type has no impact. |
| 11:54 | Yes. | |
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| 11:54 | kivilahtio | jcamins: yes, but we can still target it in reports if we want to know if our quick circulating items are books or dvdäs? |
| 11:54 | jcamins | bug 7751 |
| 11:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, CLOSED FIXED, Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds |
| 11:55 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 11:57 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I think there is no way to add items to a list? |
| 11:57 | only Biblios? | |
| 11:57 | jcamins | What do you mean? |
| 11:58 | The reports module is just SQL. | |
| 11:58 | kivilahtio | There are lists in Koha, to make colelctions of Bibliographic records |
| 11:58 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 11:58 | kivilahtio | and you can merge biblios |
| 11:58 | jcamins | That is correct. They are bib-level. |
| 11:58 | kivilahtio | but we would like to have rotating collections |
| 11:59 | so add items to a list and set this list as a rotating collection | |
| 11:59 | jcamins | There was a rotating collection feature in Koha. |
| 11:59 | kivilahtio | then set the home location of items to other library |
| 11:59 | jcamins | I think it may still be there, it's just disabled due to bugs. |
| 11:59 | kivilahtio | I think all we would need is to have a list for items |
| 11:59 | we can batch edit items, shouldn't be a biggie to extend lists to contain items as well | |
| 11:59 | or maybe it is | |
| 12:00 | jcamins | I'm not sure of that. |
| 12:00 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I understand |
| 12:00 | jcamins: thanks for your help | |
| 12:00 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 12:01 | There's also... floating collections. | |
| 12:01 | That might do what you want. | |
| 12:01 | Just ship the books to the new library and check them all in to change the location. | |
| 12:02 | I think. | |
| 12:02 | kivilahtio | we are looking into flaoting collections |
| 12:03 | jcamins: And we think that you choose the whole Koha installation to use floating items or not | |
| 12:03 | jcamins: we didn't figure out a way to have only certain items float | |
| 12:03 | jcamins: If we are wrong, I would be more than happy! | |
| 12:03 | jcamins | It's by item type, I think. |
| 12:03 | Or maybe collection code. | |
| 12:03 | kivilahtio | I think you have to choose, hmm let me see |
| 12:04 | jcamins: but is this a system preference? or a circulation rule? | |
| 12:05 | jcamins | System preference, I think. |
| 12:05 | I'm not actually sure, though. | |
| 12:05 | I don't use floating collections. | |
| 12:05 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I think it is what we think then :) because it is a system preference to set how material returns after being checked in |
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| 12:10 | drojf | why do i get a gazillion merge problems when i try of update master? there is no patch of me in there |
| 12:13 | hm. looks like i seriously broke something | |
| 12:21 | magnuse | kivilahtio: bug 8836 |
| 12:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8836 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Resurrect Rotating Collections |
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| 12:27 | magnuse | kia ora oleonard |
| 12:27 | oleonard | Hi magnuse and all in #koha |
| 12:27 | * oleonard | is back in his regular chair |
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| 12:28 | magnuse | welcome back oleonard :-) |
| 12:31 | mtompset | Were you in an electric one before, oleonard? ;) |
| 12:32 | oleonard | Flying chairs, desert chairs, bus chairs. Many chairs. |
| 12:35 | mtompset | Putting on driving hat. |
| 12:35 | Have a great day, #koha. | |
| 12:37 | magnuse | have fun mtompset |
| 12:44 | * magnuse | is reminded of bug 10117 |
| 12:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Byte Order Mark breaks Patron Import |
| 12:57 | oleonard | Hi druthb |
| 12:57 | druthb | hi, oleonard! :) |
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| 13:19 | kivilahtio | magnuse: Thanks for the link! Very precious! |
| 13:19 | oleonard | I guess my co-workers weren't too busy while I was gone: http://i.imgur.com/Uu5JJxW.jpg |
| 13:20 | kivilahtio | Is that toilet paper? |
| 13:20 | magnuse | oleonard: that's your desk? |
| 13:20 | lol! | |
| 13:20 | oleonard | Yes and yes. |
| 13:20 | kivilahtio | oleonard: maybe they are worried about your health? |
| 13:20 | * druthb | chuckles. |
| 13:20 | magnuse | you should teach them to sign off koha patches instead :-) |
| 13:20 | druthb | magnuse++ |
| 13:20 | oleonard | I don't know if you can read it, but the sign on the door says "Toilet Supplies Annex" |
| 13:21 | magnuse | tee hee |
| 13:23 | druthb | My asoke scarf made it to my office today. I have a large stuffed feline on a high shelf; it is draped over the critter's midsection. :) |
| 13:24 | kivilahtio | oleonard: I like your colleagues. |
| 13:24 | oleonard: I would just hide your mouse | |
| 13:24 | If I had a form in Koha, could I use the HTML5 <input type="number"> ? | |
| 13:25 | I am a bit worried about how the checks localize to any language | |
| 13:25 | don't wanna make javascript checks | |
| 13:26 | oleonard | We do use an HTML5 doctype. The type attribute degrades gracefully in non-HTML5 browsers? |
| 13:26 | kivilahtio | oleonard: absolutely no idea. Long time since I last did web development |
| 13:26 | oleonard: but it doesnt seem to respect the maxlenght attribute | |
| 13:27 | oleonard | Decent support except for Firefox for some reason: http://caniuse.com/#feat=input-number |
| 13:28 | kivilahtio: What are you trying to do? | |
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| 13:50 | kivilahtio | oleonard: bug 11129, validate user inputting integers |
| 13:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Limiting the display of Serial issues OR Searching a specific Serial issue |
| 13:51 | kivilahtio | do we still need to define id and name for html elements? |
| 13:51 | is IE still breaking my balls? | |
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| 13:52 | oleonard | kivilahtio: The staff client already globally includes a validation plugin you can use |
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| 13:52 | kivilahtio | i am working in staff client and OPAC |
| 13:52 | opac-detail.tt/pl mainly | |
| 13:53 | prolly will have to propagate filters up to C4 modules | |
| 13:53 | oleonard | having a server-side layer of validation is always best |
| 13:53 | kivilahtio | oleonard: both is best :) |
| 13:54 | oleonard | Hi tcohen, are you back home? |
| 13:55 | tcohen | hi oleonard, in chile, a couple more hours until i get to cordoba |
| 13:55 | how are you? | |
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| 13:55 | oleonard | I'm fine, thanks. Nothing bad to report about my trip home. |
| 13:56 | tcohen | :-D |
| 13:56 | kivilahtio | tcohen: wow, chile must be awesome! |
| 13:56 | tcohen | yeah, the airport has some wide sits where u can have a nice nap |
| 14:02 | druthb | tcohen: It was lovely getting to meet you in Reno! |
| 14:02 | tcohen | hi druthb |
| 14:02 | the same feeling here | |
| 14:03 | :D | |
| 14:04 | druthb: your granola is awesome btw | |
| 14:04 | * oleonard | likes having more faces and voices to go with the IRC nicks |
| 14:04 | druthb | Thanks! I make those snack bars all the time, and am always changing up which fruits and nuts are in it. That mix was particularly tasty. |
| 14:05 | tcohen | cait recommended me to take them, I didn't know they were your's |
| 14:06 | druthb | I brought them to share. :) |
| 14:10 | tcohen | sleepy tcohen givin' thanks to druthb: http://snag.gy/cYK3N.jpg |
| 14:10 | druthb | aw! *hug* |
| 14:11 | oleonard | :) |
| 14:13 | druthb | That batch had almonds, walnuts, sunflower seeds, some pistachio, and dried apples, prunes, and cherries, with just a splash of orange juice to get it to bind up for baking. Turned out chewier than I normally like 'em, but it worked out. |
| 14:13 | oleonard | I should know this, but how does one turn on debug, as in "$debug && warn ..." |
| 14:13 | tcohen | its great druthb |
| 14:15 | druthb | :) |
| 14:17 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:17 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 12:11 PM, July 27, 2009) |
| 14:19 | gmcharlt | oleonard: SetEnv DEBUG 1 in the apache config is one way |
| 14:19 | oleonard | Thanks gmcharlt |
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| 14:46 | oleonard | Oh and by the way gmcharlt, I actually disagree with Bug 11057's suggestion that the language chooser should be always visible |
| 14:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11057 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Bootstrap theme: Don't hide language chooser below the fold |
| 14:46 | oleonard | I'm thinking about an alternate solution that would be more mobile-friendly |
| 14:47 | gmcharlt | the main oddity I see is that no matter how you resize the window, one must always scroll down to see it |
| 14:47 | what alternative do you have in mind? | |
| 14:47 | oleonard | maybe something like this: http://www.screencast.com/t/UFhTZxKhnQ |
| 14:48 | gmcharlt | in the header? looks good to me, though I don't know if an iconic tools menu is visible enough |
| 14:48 | oleonard | Yeah I agree |
| 14:50 | tcohen | icu? |
| 14:50 | wahanui | well, icu is a good idea. |
| 14:50 | tcohen | icu? |
| 14:50 | wahanui | icu is a good idea. |
| 14:50 | oleonard | Better than Facebook's method, where once you're logged in the language choice is in a footer that always jumps out of reach when the page auto-loads more results :P |
| 14:51 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 14:51 | tcohen | does anyone have a link to the ICU setup wiki? i'd like to do what is needed to get it working on packages |
| 14:51 | gmcharlt | tcohen: looking |
| 14:53 | kivilahtio | Hi again! |
| 14:53 | I need to make a dropdown form, any guidelines regarding showing content based on a button click? | |
| 14:54 | I don't remember those being used anywhere in Koha | |
| 14:54 | I havea button I click, and then a form appears under the button. | |
| 14:54 | gmcharlt | tcohen: hmm, not on the wiki -- this is the closest I've found |
| 14:54 | http://kohageek.blogspot.com/ | |
| 14:54 | oleonard | kivilahtio: Please provide more details. What is the situation? |
| 14:54 | tcohen | thanks gmcharlt |
| 14:54 | gmcharlt | or more specifically, http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2[…]r-regional_2.html |
| 14:55 | upshot, I think, is that copies of all of the relevant files should be added to Koha's source tree | |
| 14:55 | kivilahtio | oleonard: wow http://193.65.112.189/cgi-bin/[…]lterIssues=Submit# |
| 14:56 | under Holdings(30) -> Limit issues, a to be button, not yet styled | |
| 14:57 | there is a form which needs obviously to be hidden when not needed | |
| 14:57 | oleonard: just looking into jQueryUI documentation, never used that | |
| 14:58 | oleonard | If all you want to do is show and hide that form you shouldn't need jQueryUI |
| 15:00 | Take a look at members/notices.tt for a fairly simple example of showing and hiding content using jQuery | |
| 15:00 | kivilahtio | oleonard: I could use display : none -> block and position: absolute |
| 15:00 | but I was more worried about aligning my design with the Koha UI design principles | |
| 15:00 | and having a nice animation is a bonus | |
| 15:01 | oleonard: so I was curious should I use some specific fade effect as is present in some UI elements in the OPAC | |
| 15:01 | or maybe it is Mozillla | |
| 15:01 | tcohen | gmcharlt: that's correct, but we also need to tweak some files I guess |
| 15:01 | oleonard | What fade effects are you thinking of kivilahtio? |
| 15:03 | gmcharlt | tcohen: agreed; we'll need to lean on current ICU users to describe whatever tweaks they use from the configs that ship with Zebra |
| 15:03 | kivilahtio | oleonard: nothing obtrusive, just asking are there any styling guidelines. But I'll hack something up and then let's see what happens |
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| 15:03 | Nicole C. Engard: add AllowOfflineCirculation | |
| 15:13 | tcohen | gmcharlt: so people are effectively using ICU but it is not properly documented, we need to fix that too |
| 15:14 | gmcharlt | tcohen: agreeed |
| 15:14 | tcohen | i volunteer of course, but i need some information source |
| 15:14 | kf / cait was the first to ask me for ICU in packages so I'll contact her first | |
| 15:15 | oleonard | Call the casino floor, she may be putting her last dollar into a slot machine right now |
| 15:15 | tcohen | @heh |
| 15:15 | huginn | tcohen: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 15:16 | tcohen | oleonard++ |
| 15:16 | bag | HA |
| 15:17 | anybody have a clue what day it is? | |
| 15:17 | oleonard | I know right? |
| 15:18 | gmcharlt | bag: Friday. why do you ask? |
| 15:18 | oleonard | :D |
| 15:18 | bag | :P |
| 15:18 | jcamins | tcohen: I just use the ICU configuration that comes with Koha. |
| 15:18 | tcohen | so i should perform a standard install and mimick what it does, in the packages |
| 15:19 | jcamins | It works fine for me, though Martin can demonstrate search not working without the patch that adds icu-phrases.xml. |
| 15:19 | bag | I have been fighting with FedEx the last two days trying to get a package delivered - I wish they had apt-get deliver |
| 15:19 | gmcharlt | right, putting in phrase config appears to be required |
| 15:19 | tcohen | heh |
| 15:19 | gmcharlt | I'm not personally sure about the rest that folks have been grabbing from what ships with Zebra |
| 15:24 | tcohen | ok, once i get to cordoba i'll take a look, now i'll try to get something to eat :-D |
| 15:24 | byeeee | |
| 15:25 | oleonard | Safe travels tcohen |
| 15:28 | bag | wow tcohen still in route home? |
| 15:28 | long trip | |
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| 15:48 | Nicole C. Engard: add new offline circ | |
| 16:09 | kivilahtio | oleonard: now I have something to show http://193.65.112.189/cgi-bin/[…]lterIssues=Submit |
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| 16:10 | kivilahtio | I need to recolor the button but otherwise this is what i meant |
| 16:10 | oleonard | I wouldn't style the link in any special way. I think a plain link would be most consistent |
| 16:10 | kivilahtio | my jQuery is a bit rusty :) |
| 16:11 | but I remember the times I was a real jQuery Ninja ;) | |
| 16:11 | oleonard: you think users realize they can click the link? | |
| 16:11 | if it it just white-gray? | |
| 16:11 | but I agree it stands out and looks lonely | |
| 16:11 | oleonard | I think they'll know they can click it if it looks like a link :) |
| 16:12 | Why would it be white-gray? | |
| 16:12 | kivilahtio | blue stands out oo much, it is really disturbing regarding hte contrast |
| 16:12 | jcamins | kivilahtio: interesting. I'm not sure I like the way it covers the item table. |
| 16:12 | kivilahtio | jcamins: good point, it actually covers it for non-javascript users :) |
| 16:12 | jcamins: better suggestions where to put it? | |
| 16:13 | jcamins: it is strictly related to the Holdings-tab | |
| 16:13 | oleonard | kivilahtio: Why not simply have it push the table down when it appears? |
| 16:13 | kivilahtio | I could js it on the right side |
| 16:13 | oleonard: well... | |
| 16:13 | oleonard | Don't do any positioning |
| 16:13 | kivilahtio | oleonard: good point |
| 16:14 | maybe i just like to make extra complex stuff with jQuery | |
| 16:14 | so justa plain link? | |
| 16:15 | oleonard | That's what I would do. |
| 16:15 | kivilahtio | oleonard: I think you are right |
| 16:15 | I think I need to get back to gimp and see what might be the best solutino | |
| 16:16 | jcamins | I'd prefer pushing it down. |
| 16:16 | kivilahtio | jcamins: ok |
| 16:17 | oleonard | kivilahtio: Should that form work? Or is it just a test of the markup? |
| 16:18 | kivilahtio | oleonard: not yet, the parameters are caught and validated but nothing happens on the server side yet |
| 16:18 | jcamins | kivilahtio: how exactly will that work? Does it require enumchron to be entered in a special way? |
| 16:19 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I will make a loose regexp to catch the first and second digits |
| 16:19 | jcamins: I will make a loose regexp to catch the first and second integers | |
| 16:20 | so basically it should work with things like Vol 2013, No 11 || 2013 :11 || Volume 2013 : Number 6 | |
| 16:20 | not Number 6 volume 2013 | |
| 16:21 | I am not sure if anybody uses other notations, but suggestions are welcome | |
| 16:21 | but i was planning to make a system preference where you can define in which order these integers appear | |
| 16:22 | quite frankly not sure how to deal with Volume, Number, Issue as we only use Volume : Number | |
| 16:22 | strictly only 2013 : 11 | |
| 16:22 | it would be nice to hear what kind of use cases you suspect for enumchron? | |
| 16:22 | they cant be too crazy | |
| 16:23 | jcamins | kivilahtio: we have a saying here on #koha. |
| 16:23 | @quote 123 | |
| 16:23 | wahanui | @quote get 123 |
| 16:23 | huginn | jcamins: downloading the Perl source |
| 16:23 | wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) | |
| 16:23 | wahanui | ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... |
| 16:23 | kivilahtio | bt then again if I use a system preference as a regexp then each library can define it their way |
| 16:24 | jcamins: you think this is mad? | |
| 16:24 | jcamins: I think it is doable | |
| 16:24 | jcamins | I think that there will be even crazier ways of formatting enumchron. |
| 16:24 | But I don't know what they are. | |
| 16:24 | ... which is really what makes them crazy. | |
| 16:24 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I understand. I think i will put a regexp to the system preferences so each library can define their own standard of defining the enumchron |
| 16:25 | jcamins | :) |
| 16:25 | kivilahtio | jcamins: It's not a biggie |
| 16:27 | jcamins | Yeah, it seems like a reasonable idea. But "they can't be too crazy" is a very dangerous thing to say, when you're talking about libraries. |
| 16:27 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I will note that |
| 16:27 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 16:33 | gmcharlt | question for the world: preferences on '-" vs. '!' for the negation operator for QueryParser queries? |
| 16:33 | bag | no preference here |
| 16:34 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I believe EG uses both. |
| 16:34 | bag | oh +1 for both |
| 16:34 | druthb | +1 for both! |
| 16:35 | intuitive-ness++ | |
| 16:35 | kivilahtio | jcamins: oleonard: well here are the options, I think you are right, but I think the link needs something more to hint the user to clikc it |
| 16:35 | oleonard | If something looks like a link, kivilahtio, users will know they can click it. |
| 16:41 | * druthb | doesn't click oleonard, becuase he doesn't much look like Link: http://www.zeldawiki.org/File:ST_Link_3.png |
| 16:42 | bag | wait oleonard does look like that druthb |
| 16:43 | oleonard | If you haven't been to KohaCon you have no idea which is true. |
| 16:43 | kivilahtio | I havent but now I wish had ;) |
| 16:43 | druthb | naah. oleonard doesn't have a sword in his hand, and an angry yell. He smiles a lot. Also darker hair. |
| 16:43 | jcamins | kivilahtio: oleonard has feet, so I have to agree with druthb. |
| 16:44 | druthb | jcamins++ |
| 16:44 | jcamins | Or, at least, if he doesn't have feet, he hides it well. |
| 16:44 | * oleonard | is glad jcamins noticed |
| 16:45 | kivilahtio | Arent you afraid that your SQL is so exposed? like with C4::Items::GetItemsInfo() ? |
| 16:45 | jcamins | kivilahtio: nah, oleonard wasn't carrying a sword so it's nothing to worry about. :) |
| 16:45 | kivilahtio | I thought I had to push my filters through multiple functions, but it is nice to have the SQL just one function call away from the UI |
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| 16:46 | jcamins | kivilahtio: you still need to sanitize user input. |
| 16:46 | kivilahtio | jcamins: You think if I put mangeld SQL dates to DB it breaks? |
| 16:46 | doesn't prepare statements sanitize it for me? | |
| 16:47 | jcamins: I think I skipped my SQL lessons regarding sanitation but is it total idiocy to suggest that one could just put unsanitized variables to a SQL prepared statement? | |
| 16:47 | isn't that what the preapred statement is for? | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | kivilahtio: to some extent, but if you want to make sure that you'll get results if the input is invalid, you need to handle that case. |
| 16:48 | kivilahtio | jcamins: ok, phew, validating date is a pain :( |
| 16:49 | jcamins | Like if you want to translate non-numeric input to always be equal to one, so that SELECT * FROM table WHERE field < 'fish'; works, you'll need to coerce fish into an integer equal to one. |
| 16:50 | oleonard | Only one with divine powers can coerce 'fish' to be equal to more than one. |
| 16:50 | kivilahtio | jcamins: is this because you don't want errors in your MySQL log? |
| 16:50 | oleonard++ | |
| 16:50 | jcamins | kivilahtio: no, because you want to have results if you don't get any data. |
| 16:51 | kivilahtio | jcamins: how about just cancelling the search if parameters are incorrect. If you try to mimic correct behaviour with incorrect parameters... that sounds like a ticket to hard-to-debug -problems |
| 16:51 | but now I just said I should validat ALL input :) | |
| 16:51 | are there any validators in OPAC? | |
| 16:52 | oleonard | No built-in client side JS validator, no. |
| 16:52 | kivilahtio | oleonard: but in the C4-modules? |
| 16:53 | oleonard: you said in staff client there are validators. IN the business layer? | |
| 16:53 | * oleonard | doesn't know about that |
| 16:53 | kivilahtio | but there generally don't seem to be many validators in the OPAC's .pl scripts. Should I call it the Controller layer? |
| 16:54 | like placerequest.pl just accepts anything and asks no questions. And there are a lot of parameters | |
| 16:55 | jcamins | kivilahtio: right, exactly. I was trying to provide an example of where not having any results for invalid data is the opposite of the expected behavior. |
| 16:55 | kivilahtio | jcamins: okey dokey |
| 16:57 | so there are no validator functions in C4? | |
| 16:57 | just making sure before I go and program some | |
| 17:01 | mtompset | C4::Accounts is gone now? |
| 17:01 | Okay. | |
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| 17:03 | kivilahtio | I asked what is the deal with C4:: and Koha:: I understood C4 is legacy and Koha is the new OO way to go |
| 17:04 | I presume someone is in process of rewriting C4 to Koha? | |
| 17:04 | jcamins | kivilahtio: not in any organized way. |
| 17:04 | kivilahtio | So my modifications to C4 will become obsolete in some time? |
| 17:04 | jcamins | Only if someone implements the same thing in Koha::. |
| 17:05 | kivilahtio | jcamins: ok. So basically totally new functionality should go to Koha:: |
| 17:05 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1476 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 17:05 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11123: remove two unused routines from C4::Accounts <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1bc77db4e3c229eb0> |
| 17:06 | jcamins | Yup. |
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| 17:48 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 11123: remove two unused routines from C4::Accounts | |
| 17:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11123 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , 2 routines are unused in C4::Account |
| 18:06 | reiveune | bye |
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| 18:14 | khall | MyISAM vs InnoDB for action_logs? If you've got an opinion, please let me know! http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11136 |
| 18:14 | huginn | 04Bug 11136: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , action_logs should be a MyISAM table, not InnoDB |
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| 18:52 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 11123: remove two unused routines from C4::Accounts | |
| 18:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11123 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , 2 routines are unused in C4::Account |
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| 19:03 | Nicole C. Engard: update csv profiles | |
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| 19:22 | jcamins | khall: aria. |
| 19:23 | Supposed to be way less corruption-prone. | |
| 19:25 | Having never had a catastrophic failure while using aria I can't confirm that from first-hand experience, though. | |
| 19:31 | oleonard | Bye #koha. If you need me I'll be waiting by the elevator wondering what to have for dinner. |
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| 19:48 | Nicole C. Engard: add item type check in alerts | |
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| 20:16 | nengard | is the Koha site down? |
| 20:17 | My internet is so wonky here I can't ever tell what's me and what's really down | |
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| 20:18 | Nicole C. Engard: add WhenLostForgiveFine | |
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| 20:29 | rambutan | koha-community.org is down down down |
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| 20:41 | gmcharlt | it's back, now |
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| 20:47 | * cait-m_ | waves |
| 20:55 | rambutan | waves |
| 20:57 | cait-m_ | in slc now |
| 20:57 | wsiting for flight to paris | |
| 20:59 | rambutan | hoping you fly friendly skies |
| 20:59 | cait-m_ | thx |
| 20:59 | sad to leave | |
| 21:00 | i had a nice first visit to the US | |
| 21:00 | rambutan | good |
| 21:07 | Profound statement of the week: I think there should be a (scholarly) Open-Source ILS Journal | |
| 21:08 | I'm reading "Computers in Libraries" and it's all proprietary-ILS centric | |
| 21:08 | jcamins | Not to be crass (okay, maybe), but don't you think such a journal would just turn into navel-gazing? |
| 21:08 | cait-m_ | yesh and when writing about koha they dony get it right :( |
| 21:09 | rambutan | suppose there's enough potential material out there covering EG, Koha, DSpace, etc, to support a quarterly publication |
| 21:09 | jcamins: question has merit and requires serious thought. Will give it consideration | |
| 21:10 | jcamins | I am not opposed to the idea, but I feel like academic publishing tends to be kind of navel-gazing-y anyway, and a special interest journal would tend to make that more rather than less true. |
| 21:10 | At least, that's my take. | |
| 21:11 | busla | hey all! Just finished the Debian install on a RasPi .. anyone have a clue what the URL is for the web-installation? |
| 21:11 | can´t find it in any docs | |
| 21:12 | and sites-enabled doesn´t point to any root_dir | |
| 21:12 | jcamins | 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:12 | (or rPi external IP) | |
| 21:12 | busla | right.. |
| 21:12 | rambutan | Still reflecting, but such a journal would need to be weighted towards how OS ILSs actually promote world peace, and not focus in the latest patch to zebrasort.pl |
| 21:12 | busla | should delete the default index.html in the apache root |
| 21:12 | ? | |
| 21:13 | jcamins | busla: no, but if you're not using DNS you may want to disable the default site and change the intranet port to 8080. |
| 21:14 | busla | ahh |
| 21:14 | ok | |
| 21:14 | :) | |
| 21:14 | thanks | |
| 21:14 | jcamins | Personally, I recommend avahi. |
| 21:14 | busla | avahi ? |
| 21:14 | wahanui | i think avahi is kind of amazing. |
| 21:14 | jcamins | It really is. |
| 21:14 | It does the local DNS thing that I've forgotten the name of. | |
| 21:14 | busla | found it |
| 21:14 | jcamins | So http://raspberrypi.local./ works. |
| 21:15 | If you set it up to do so. | |
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| 21:15 | busla | https://wiki.debian.org/ZeroConf ? |
| 21:16 | jcamins | That's it. |
| 21:16 | It's useful because you can use it for making name based virtual hosts work. | |
| 21:18 | busla | trying it out |
| 21:18 | :) | |
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| 21:18 | Nicole C. Engard: add image to overdrive prefs | |
| 21:20 | jcamins | Wait, I just remembered something. |
| 21:20 | Never mind. The instructions are on port 80. | |
| 21:26 | busla | woops.. avahi giving me alot of erros |
| 21:26 | *error | |
| 21:26 | s | |
| 21:26 | going for the other option | |
| 21:27 | damn.. would be great to package Koha as a RasPi distribution :-) | |
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| 21:47 | busla | weird ... default user and pass not working in the web installer |
| 21:47 | well, the values in the xml file | |
| 21:47 | jcamins | Are you sure it's not just slow? |
| 21:48 | busla | well, it´s not loading and the form was cleared by the browser |
| 21:48 | jcamins | The values in the XML file work are the only ones that will work for the webinstaller. |
| 21:48 | busla | no error message though |
| 21:48 | right | |
| 21:48 | jcamins | If it actually didn't work, you would've gotten a web browser. |
| 21:48 | Some weird redirect? | |
| 21:49 | busla | I´m doing this over lan |
| 21:49 | added Listen 8080 in ports.conf | |
| 21:49 | and my library name in /etc/hosts | |
| 21:49 | pretty basic | |
| 21:49 | on the remote computer ofcourse | |
| 21:51 | I have login credentials for "authorityserver" and "publicserver" | |
| 21:52 | jcamins | Wrong credentials. |
| 21:52 | At the bottom are the user name and password for Koha. | |
| 21:53 | busla | ohh .. thought it was the mysql credentials |
| 21:53 | jcamins | It is, but the authorityserver and publicserver bits are for Zebra. |
| 21:54 | You want the koha_mylibrary user name and its related password. | |
| 21:54 | busla | ahh |
| 21:54 | :) | |
| 21:54 | thanks | |
| 21:54 | working | |
| 21:55 | I´ll look at this Wiki tomorrow... it´s time for an update: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_a_Raspberry_Pi | |
| 22:01 | peggy | Hi. I've installed Debian and apache2 and mysql and koha-common. But when I go to http://kohaadmin it can't find the server. Any suggestions? |
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| 22:04 | busla | what´s your setup? |
| 22:05 | peggy | I'm on an old dell laptop - wiped clean. Fresh install of everything |
| 22:06 | What else do you want to know? | |
| 22:06 | jcamins | peggy: you need to replace kohaadmin with the URL for your staff client. |
| 22:07 | peggy | As far as I know that IS the URL for my staff client. |
| 22:07 | ? | |
| 22:07 | busla | .. and edit /etc/hosts I assume ? |
| 22:08 | or 127.0.0.1 | |
| 22:08 | jcamins | busla: right, the URL has to be set up. |
| 22:08 | peggy | Ah. I seem to remember something about adding the name... |
| 22:08 | busla | peggy: have you reached the webinstaller? |
| 22:09 | peggy | Currently has "localhost at 127.0.0.1 and thrasher.thrasher.org at 127.0.1.1 |
| 22:09 | No, no web installer yet. | |
| 22:09 | busla | ahh ok |
| 22:09 | peggy | So I need kohaadmin at 127.0.0.? can I use 1 again? |
| 22:10 | busla | just try it |
| 22:10 | peggy | Magic! |
| 22:10 | busla | but I suggest adding "Listen 8080" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
| 22:11 | ok | |
| 22:11 | to get to the admin interface | |
| 22:11 | since it´s listening on that port | |
| 22:11 | peggy | Now I'm at the web installer. |
| 22:11 | busla | ahh ok |
| 22:12 | peggy | I need to add an entry for the OPAC, too. same IP? |
| 22:12 | busla | well... if you were online 15 minutes ago, I suggest you take a look at the conversation I had with jcamins |
| 22:12 | I just went through this process | |
| 22:12 | jcamins | logs? |
| 22:12 | wahanui | logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
| 22:12 | jcamins | peggy: yep, same deal. |
| 22:12 | peggy | I shall do that! Great. Thanks so much. |
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| 22:14 | busla | it´s pretty slow on the RasPI |
| 22:14 | logging in takes around 20 seks | |
| 22:17 | jcamins | busla: yeah, you really need Plack to make it usable. |
| 22:17 | plack? | |
| 22:17 | wahanui | Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. |
| 22:18 | eythian | hi |
| 22:18 | busla | right.. thanks, will have a look |
| 22:18 | so excited about this | |
| 22:18 | :) | |
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| 22:55 | jcamins | eythian: how do you take pictures of things on your phone? |
| 22:56 | wizzyrea | like screenshots? |
| 22:56 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 22:57 | eythian | jcamins: power+vol down |
| 22:57 | wizzyrea | volume down and power button at the same time |
| 22:57 | jcamins | Cool. |
| 22:57 | I had no idea. | |
| 22:57 | wizzyrea | jinx. ;) |
| 23:01 | gmcharlt | but the real talent is this ... choosing /what/ to take a screenshot of ;) |
| 23:02 | eythian | :D |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 23:06 | peggy | Question: I have a git directory that contains my source, and I just installed a new instance of Koha. How can I tell the new Koha instance to use the source in my git directory? |
| 23:06 | eythian | peggy: you have a package installation? |
| 23:06 | if so: | |
| 23:06 | wahanui: gitify | |
| 23:06 | wahanui | rumour has it gitify is at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify |
| 23:07 | peggy | I used gitify with rangi at the hackfest. But I had to reinstall and need to point to that source? |
| 23:08 | wizzyrea | koha-gitify new-instance-name |
| 23:08 | from your gitify directory | |
| 23:08 | cjh | wizzyrea: you will also need to specify the path |
| 23:08 | wizzyrea | oh right and the path to your git clone |
| 23:09 | cjh | drats I thought I had a readme, need to add one. |
| 23:09 | wizzyrea | running it without any arguments should give help |
| 23:12 | peggy | Command not found for koha-gitify. Maybe because I created the gitify directory with my previous debian installation. |
| 23:12 | cjh | you will probably have to run it as ./koha-gitify |
| 23:13 | peggy | Yup. |
| 23:14 | wizzyrea | if all else fails just re-clone it |
| 23:17 | peggy | Yes!! it works. |
| 23:17 | Thanks so much. | |
| 23:19 | wizzyrea | :) yw |
| 23:20 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gitify instructions" (120 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/250 |
| 23:21 | wizzyrea | because I had already started and stuff. |
| 23:27 | peggy | Thanks for the info. I'm off to fix my first bug! |
| 23:29 | wizzyrea | sweeet |
| 23:29 | gmcharlt | peggy++ |
| 23:33 | wizzyrea | peggy++ |
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