IRC log for #koha, 2013-10-22

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00:01 rangi oleonard++ #signing off all the lianza patches
00:07 cait oleonard++
00:07 didn't get to see those yet
00:07 someone got bug numbers for me?
00:08 rangi they are all in the 11k range
00:08 110somethingsomething
00:10 oleonard I did a few and then stopped because I didn't want to jump to the top of the scoreboard for signing off on single-line patches
00:10 Whoops I did too many
00:14 dpk Does anyone now how I can change the string in a perl script to reflect an alternate DESTDIR/"configuration directory setting" per khall's recent comment on bug 11078?
00:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Failed QA , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds
00:14 dpk I have not found any good examples under misc/*
00:18 rangi oleonard: it really helps there were all a bunch of librarians learning how to be a developer in 90 seconds
00:18 great feedback for them to get a mail on the same day
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00:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11098: fixed bug in label in opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7b7eb6c1d0d4bc161> / Bug 11102: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selec... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ae463b39071dfe6d0> / Bug 11106: make label for Item types
00:40 dcook #koha: preliminary work on moving away from ISO to MARCXML can be found on tcohen's github branch
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00:41 dcook marcxml_master branch at https://github.com/tomascohen/koha.git
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00:41 dcook ^^ above added by tcohen himself :p
00:42 oleonard dpk: Everyone is breaking for dinner now
00:43 dpk I am about to head home.   I have updated the bug with a possible path forward.
00:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #170 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11070: followup to correct tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]45e092edc1f062a96> / Bug 11070: fix typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8ec6f15a5673d7de4>
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01:09 cait boo
01:09 :)
01:11 having another go and that git reject thing hopefully
01:13 gmcharlt cait++
01:13 eythian hi cait
01:13 cait haven't found the mail yet :) pointers welcome
01:13 hi eythian :)
01:15 gmcharlt cait: 7791, looks like
01:15 cait thank you!
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01:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1463: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1463/
01:27 Jonathan Druart: Bug 11015: add copyright headers to some files
01:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11015 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Copyright headers are missing in some packages
01:27 cait wizzyrea: around?
01:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #1464 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 2 hr ago)
01:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11058: fix compilation warning in C4::Record <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c2d4c7ec87ec8aa95>
01:33 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #170: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/170/
01:33 * raewyn adams: Bug 11100: make label for Topics facet easily CSS selectable
01:33 * Sue Tunnicliff: Bug 11107: make label for authors facet easily CSS selectable
01:33 * Katherine Chisholm: Bug 11106: make label for Item types facet easily CSS selectable
01:33 * Gab Hikaka: Bug 11102: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable
01:33 * Andrew Lockett: Bug 11098: fixed bug in label in opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable
01:33 * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11070: fix typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin
01:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11100 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Label in staff client - Topics on facets not easily css selectable
01:33 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 11070: followup to correct tabs
01:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sue.tunnicliff, Pushed to Master , Label  in staff client - authors on facets not easily accessible
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11106 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Label item type facet in staff client
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrewlockettnz, Pushed to Master , Label in Opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11070 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin
01:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #171 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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01:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11003: fix JS error on the staff cart page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2b880aaf456b0c3fa>
02:22 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #171: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/171/
02:22 Colin Campbell: Bug 11058: fix compilation warning in C4::Record
02:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11058 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Compile time warning issued by C4/Record.pm
02:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #172 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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03:11 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #172: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/172/
03:11 Jonathan Druart: Bug 11003: fix JS error on the staff cart page
03:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11003 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , JS error on the cart page
03:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1464: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1464/
03:23 * raewyn adams: Bug 11100: make label for Topics facet easily CSS selectable
03:23 * Sue Tunnicliff: Bug 11107: make label for authors facet easily CSS selectable
03:23 * Katherine Chisholm: Bug 11106: make label for Item types facet easily CSS selectable
03:23 * Gab Hikaka: Bug 11102: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable
03:23 * Andrew Lockett: Bug 11098: fixed bug in label in opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable
03:23 * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11070: fix typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin
03:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11100 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Label in staff client - Topics on facets not easily css selectable
03:23 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 11070: followup to correct tabs
03:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sue.tunnicliff, Pushed to Master , Label  in staff client - authors on facets not easily accessible
03:23 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11058: fix compilation warning in C4::Record
03:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11106 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Label item type facet in staff client
03:24 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable
03:24 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrewlockettnz, Pushed to Master , Label in Opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable
03:24 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11070 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin
03:24 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11058 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Compile time warning issued by C4/Record.pm
03:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1465 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 4 hr ago)
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04:03 Oak Ahoy me hearties on a land far far away...
04:04 * jcamins has made it home.
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04:23 Oak oh good.
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05:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1465: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1465/
05:11 Jonathan Druart: Bug 11003: fix JS error on the staff cart page
05:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11003 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , JS error on the cart page
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05:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #173 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:35 Starting build #1466 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 6 hr ago)
05:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10982: fix link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0100833714089e86f> / Bug 11099: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selec... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d823fe0210fefd21> / Bug 11002: (follow-up) use jQuery validator plugin <http
05:46 New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10785: (follow-up) fix one last bit of capitalization <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50a47933cb992494b> / Bug 10785: change 'Dropbox' labels to 'Book drop' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8b6d9576e3a45f2a8>
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05:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10954: ensure that payment receipt displays the payment made <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2b475df550985fbea>
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06:21 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #173: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/173/
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06:21 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11002: simplify patron mandatory field validation
06:21 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11002: (follow-up) use jQuery validator plugin
06:21 * Jonet Moore: Bug 11099: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable
06:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11002 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields are not translatable
06:21 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 10982: fix link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging
06:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11099 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonetem, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable
06:21 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10982 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging
06:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #174 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:26 Guest3091 does koha implement "did you mean this feature" in opac in it's true sense?
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06:42 reiveune hello
06:42 wahanui privet, reiveune
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06:54 * magnuse waves
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07:09 gaetan_B hello
07:09 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B
07:10 gaetan_B hi magnuse :)
07:12 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #174: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/174/
07:12 * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10785: change 'Dropbox' labels to 'Book drop'
07:12 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10785: (follow-up) fix one last bit of capitalization
07:12 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10954: ensure that payment receipt displays the payment made
07:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , dropbox should be book drop
07:12 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10954 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Payment receipt does not display the payment made
07:22 samueld hello everybody
07:23 Oak hello samueld
07:23 magnuse
07:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1466: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1466/
07:25 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11002: simplify patron mandatory field validation
07:25 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11002: (follow-up) use jQuery validator plugin
07:25 * Jonet Moore: Bug 11099: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable
07:25 * Frédéric Demians: Bug 10982: fix link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging
07:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11002 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields are not translatable
07:25 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11099 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonetem, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable
07:25 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10982 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging
07:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #1467 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 8 hr ago)
07:30 magnuse Oak
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08:23 redbeard45 Just looking at using Koha but not as Library Management Software but for the managment of paper and media resources for specialist teachers who are located in 5 different offices around a city. The resources are stored in each location and often a suitable resource is in another location but no one expect those in that specific location. So I am looking for an online booking and resource...
08:23 ...management tool We have an Excel spreadsheet of these resources. Is it possible to import this into Koha. Cheers and thanks
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08:34 Keithsptr Hello
08:34 I have a small problem
08:35 can you tell me how I can connect to the back-end of Koha
08:35 where the cataloging is done
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08:36 Keithsptr is somebody there?
08:36 I am able to connect to the front end where the user can change personal data
08:36 etc
08:36 redbeard45 Only me but no one is answering my question either!
08:37 Keithsptr ohh ok
08:49 magnuse Keithsptr: sorry for the quiet channel - a lot of the people who are usually here are at a conference in reno, usa and they are sleeping now :-)
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08:59 Keithsptr ok no problem
09:00 can you help me
09:00 magnuse
09:00 magnuse i can try
09:00 how did you install koha?
09:00 from packages or git or tarball?
09:00 Keithsptr on a local ubuntu laptop
09:01 magnuse ok
09:01 which instructions did you follow
09:01 ?
09:01 Keithsptr the one with makefile.PL
09:01 I think it was tarball
09:01 magnuse ok
09:02 Keithsptr installation was successfull
09:02 magnuse hm, it's been a while since i did that
09:02 Keithsptr the problem that I have is that I cannot access the back end
09:02 where the cataloging is done
09:02 magnuse try to open /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/...
09:02 you need to figure out what you need to use instead of ...
09:03 there should be a file there with the apache config for your koha installation
09:03 where do you access the public part of koha? http://localhost/ ?
09:03 Keithsptr 127.0.0.1
09:03 magnuse ok
09:03 just try 127.0.0.1:8080
09:04 Keithsptr that works on a local pc
09:04 what I want is to be able to access it externally
09:05 magnuse ah
09:05 then it's more of a general networking problem than a koha problem
09:05 i'm not very good at networking, i'm afraid
09:06 Keithsptr me too. I don't know anything about networking
09:08 mtj Keithsptr, use your koha system's ip number, not 127.0.0.1
09:08 http://1.2.3.4:8080, etc...
09:08 Keithsptr meaning?
09:09 but that gives me the external part
09:09 not where the cataloging is to be done
09:10 mtj cataloguing is done from the 'admin' interface
09:10 access your koha's admin interface from port 8080
09:10 Keithsptr yes and that is what I want
09:11 mtj well, thats how you do it ;)
09:11 Keithsptr it is not working
09:12 mtj so, what do you get on port 8080?
09:12 Keithsptr nothing
09:13 mtj ok, try using these installation instructions, here -> http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
09:14 Keithsptr that didn't work for me... that is why I used makefile.PL
09:15 mtj use the packages
09:16 if you get stuck using the packages, just hop on #irc and ask for help
09:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1467: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1467/
09:16 * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10785: change 'Dropbox' labels to 'Book drop'
09:16 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10785: (follow-up) fix one last bit of capitalization
09:16 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10954: ensure that payment receipt displays the payment made
09:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , dropbox should be book drop
09:16 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10954 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Payment receipt does not display the payment made
09:16 Keithsptr it's no use re-install it again
09:16 it is a network issue
09:17 mtj ah, ok...
09:20 Keithsptr so you don't know
09:20 you never had this issue
09:20 so how do you currently log in the cataloging part
09:22 mtj if you are new to koha, use the debian packages
09:24 if you insist on installing koha with a tar file, i recommend following these instructions -> http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_ubuntu_-_tarball
09:25 ...look out for the 'Configure and Start Apache' section
09:25 Keithsptr it is already installed
09:25 and works fine
09:25 the problem is that I want the users to access the admin externally
09:28 mtj hmmm....
09:33 yeah, try a package install first
09:47 Keithsptr meaning
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09:51 Keithsptr ??
10:00 mtj Keithsptr, meaning…install koha with the 'package' installation method
10:01 if you get stuck, just hop on #irc and ask for help
10:05 Oak Keithsptr, because if you install from the package, it help us to resolve issues you may be facing easily... because a) it narrows down the problem from us b) most of us set-up Koha that way
10:06 one the other hand, with the tarball method, we can't do guesswork about which of the hundreds of things you may have done wrong.
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10:08 keithsptr_ sorry have logged
10:08 from another pc
10:09 so the result is that it is not possible to get the user to log in to the admin from the outside
10:09 ?
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10:09 * Oak goes to watch birds on trees
10:11 keithsptr_ @oak
10:11 huginn keithsptr_: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
10:11 keithsptr_ tks
10:11 @oak IT IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE INSTALLATON
10:11 huginn keithsptr_: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
10:11 keithsptr_ locally it worked
10:12 I just want to access it externally
10:19 mtj the truth is… most people (myself included) wont help you if you install koha using a tar file, instead of using the packages
10:20 …as Oak said, its too difficult to troubleshoot
10:20 keithsptr_ and as I said.. all works
10:21 and externally it workd (the front end site)
10:21 so it is not a problem with how I installed it
10:21 it is a problem with network issu
10:21 issue
10:22 mtj you have an apache config problem
10:22 keithsptr_ and how can I solve it
10:22 ??
10:23 mtj you can solve it, by installing koha using the 'packages' method
10:24 …which does the apache config 'automagically'
10:25 your problem is a very common problem
10:25 the solution is to use the packages
10:26 keithsptr_ ok tks
10:26 thanks
10:27 mtj fwiw, people in USA will be waking up soon - they might help your with your apache config problem
10:27 …or they might tell you to use the packages
10:28 keithsptr_ ok I will wait a bit
10:44 mtj keithsptr_, ok, no probs :)
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10:52 keithsptr_ it worked now
10:52 I have changed the config file
10:53 manually
10:56 mtj cool, well done
10:57 if you have problems manually setting up your zebra and cron stuff… use the packages ;)
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11:11 keithsptr_ tks
11:11 :)
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12:41 gmcharlt @quote random
12:41 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one does not bask in the Potomac River basin...you melt or swelter or something, but you don't bask. :P" (added by jwagner at 01:17 PM, January 24, 2011)
12:52 talljoy hi druthb you made it home in good time?
12:53 druthb yep
12:53 got home about midnight
12:53 talljoy ouch
12:53 druthb on-time landing at BPT at 9:30, then the drive...
12:53 magnuse druthb!
12:53 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
12:54 druthb magnuse!
12:54 wahanui i heard magnuse was a Norwegian giant.
12:54 talljoy heh
12:54 * magnuse waves to talljoy
12:54 talljoy hi magnuse!
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12:57 magnuse :-)
12:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11097 - Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b573ae653e55e29a8>
12:58 * druthb is a tired geek.
12:59 talljoy i'm sure.  i'm exhausted and i got home at 6pm
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13:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #175 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:01 jcamins We got in around 11:30.
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13:03 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:05 magnuse hiya mtompset and jcamins
13:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1468 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 13 hr ago)
13:05 mtompset Greetings, magnuse.
13:06 If I signed something off, and it needs a rebase, can I rebase and squash patches without having to get it signed off again?
13:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10403: Show inactive but unlocked budgets on orderreceive <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8ae6483d3e4749e0e> / Bug 10403: add ability to change fund on receipt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6cc9a210223cffecb>
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13:50 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #175: UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/175/
13:50 * Owen Leonard: Bug 11097 - Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission
13:50 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: add ability to change fund on receipt
13:50 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: Show inactive but unlocked budgets on orderreceive
13:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11097 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission
13:50 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt
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14:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #176 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 hr 39 min ago)
14:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5336: (follow-up) improve setting 'partial' order status during upgrade <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]74ba7e1c9dd0c6083> / Bug 5336: (follow-up) remove unused new parameter to NewOrder() that slipped in <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ecaac8ef237578242> / Bug 5336: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class for aq
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14:39 mtompset BUG!
14:40 10636
14:40 bug 10636
14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10636 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , patronimage should have borrowernumber as PK, not cardnumber
14:40 mtompset Missing SetVersion call in updatedatabase.pl
14:41 Only caught that, because I had to rebase a patch I'm working on.
14:42 gmcharlt, do you see that?
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14:48 Nicole C. Engard: add merging authorities
14:49 gmcharlt mtompset: which DBrev?
14:50 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #176: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/176/
14:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: Order search (search and UI enhancements)
14:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) don't display deleted orders in late orders search result
14:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) merge parent ordernumber and ordernumber columns in display
14:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) add unit tests for 3 acq routines
14:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) miscellaneous changes
14:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) use understandable codes rather than magic numbers for orderstatus
14:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) fix case where partial status was not correctly set
14:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) multiple QA fixes
14:50 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: DBRev 3.13.00.032
14:50 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class for aqorders
14:50 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) remove unused new parameter to NewOrder() that slipped in
14:50 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) improve setting 'partial' order status during upgrade
14:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5336 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Acq history search
14:50 gmcharlt 3.13.00.030 can fail, and it doesn't call SetVersion if it does
14:51 mtompset AH! Didn't see it.
14:52 Guess I need more caffeine. :)
14:52 gmcharlt hmm, though DBRrevs after that will be able to call their SetVersion()
14:52 mtompset True, which could cause a problem updating later.
14:54 gmcharlt yeah, I'll be curious to see how often that happens in the real world
14:55 we could add something that warns on the staff home page or something if there's changes left to do for 030 (after data cleanup0
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14:57 * Owen Leonard: Bug 11097 - Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission
14:57 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: add ability to change fund on receipt
14:57 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: Show inactive but unlocked budgets on orderreceive
14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11097 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission
14:57 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt
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15:01 mtompset Wasn't there some force upgrade option to reattempt previous updates somewhere?
15:02 I thought I saw some kind of bug report for that enhancement.
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15:04 oleonard Hi #koha
15:04 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. :)
15:16 oleonard When I started reading the comments on Bug 8236 I didn't realize I should have brought food and water with me.
15:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8236 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Prevent renewing if overdue or restriction
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15:22 druthb hi, oleonard! :)
15:22 * druthb wriggles happily
15:24 oleonard Hi druthb, I'm sorry I didn't get to say goodbye to you!
15:24 * oleonard should have been paying better attention
15:24 oleonard Smooth travels I hope?
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15:25 druthb reasonably smooth, yes.  Long.
15:25 * oleonard leaves in the morning :(
15:25 oleonard :(
15:26 :(
15:28 bag and I are talking about trying to put together an American hackfest next year some time in my neck of the woods
15:29 Maybe even try to do a joint Koha/Evergreen hackfest since we have Evergreen libraries in our area
15:29 nengard hackfesters want easy patches to sign off on to pad their numbers? :) bug 10671
15:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update
15:29 nengard more coming
15:31 * sophie_m pause, je repasse plus tard
15:31 sophie_m oups
15:32 oleonard nengard: Did some KohaCon discussions lead to these updates or are they routine?
15:32 nengard routine
15:32 i do them before every release
15:33 just thought i should do them with a bunch of hackers in one room looking to teach newbies how to sign off :)
15:33 since they're tiny string patches
15:34 oleonard Not sure how many newbies we have left today, but we'll have a few
15:34 nengard yeah i was busy moving the other days :(
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16:18 gaetan_B hey there
16:18 i know some people have tried putting koha on a raspberry pi
16:18 but i think they had performance issues
16:18 on a scale that actually stopped them from going further
16:19 anyone tried that here and could tell me more ?
16:19 jcamins gaetan_B: not really.
16:19 I mean, yeah, it's slow, but for my home library, it's fast enough.
16:19 Well, it was until I stopped using Koha for my home library. :D
16:19 gaetan_B jcamins: ahah, that's very interesting :)
16:19 oh what do you use now then ?
16:20 jcamins Now it's infinitely slow, because it's not running at all.
16:20 gaetan_B evergreen ? :p
16:20 jcamins Biblionarrator.
16:20 lol
16:20 I'm using a Raspberry Pi!
16:20 Evergreen barely runs on a VM for me.
16:20 * gaetan_B was joking
16:21 gaetan_B i see you created a whole new ils !
16:21 jcamins Nope- catalogue/discovery layer.
16:21 gaetan_B i'll have to have a look at this
16:21 ok
16:21 jcamins You have to use it with Koha (or another ILS) if you want to do circulation.
16:22 Since I don't circulate my dictionaries, that's not a problem for me.
16:22 gaetan_B the reason i am asking is i was dreaming of a "koha box" that could be shipped to developping countries for setting up a library quickly
16:22 ah ok
16:22 jcamins Yeah, drojf was talking about that too.
16:22 gaetan_B it looks pretty nice
16:22 jcamins raspberry pi?
16:22 wahanui Raspberry Pi embedded computers run Koha just fine. :) See http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_a_Raspberry_Pi
16:22 jcamins Woohoo!
16:22 gaetan_B yes this makes a lot of sense now that i think ok it
16:22 jcamins wahanui does know.
16:22 wahanui jcamins: huh?
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16:23 tcohen morning #koha !
16:23 jcamins I think the instructions say you have to use 3.6, but I actually ran 3.12.
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16:24 jcamins It's not blazing fast, but it works.
16:25 BobB good morning #koha
16:25 oleonard Good morning BobB
16:26 Not often I can say good morning to BobB and have it be time zone correct for both of us
16:26 nengard hiya BobB
16:26 BobB :)
16:26 nengard jcamins i was testing the authority merge yesterday and i'm not seeing it work - i merge with no errors and then i rebuilt the search and the 2 merged records are still listed as 2 on the results
16:26 is there a step i'm missing
16:26 i faked the manual update for now :)
16:26 jcamins nengard: I don't think so. It always just worked for me.
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16:27 nengard can you confirm for me the command to rebuild the authorities index
16:27 that might be what i'm doing wrong ;)
16:27 jcamins rebuild_zebra.pl -a -z -x
16:27 Or -a -r -x
16:27 -b is optional, since that's just for bibs.
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16:28 nengard k let me see what i was running
16:29 jcamins Of course, if you did it without the -z or -r right after the merge, you'll now have to do -a -r -x.
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16:30 nengard i did misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r -v
16:31 jcamins I'm not sure why it's not working for you then.
16:32 nengard hmmm
16:32 i want to dump my crap authority file and start over
16:32 i have hundreds of dups
16:33 all linked to 1 bib record
16:33 gaetan_B thanks jcamins that's really helpful !
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16:33 Nicole C. Engard: change dropbox to book drop
16:33 jcamins nengard: that shouldn't be possible. I think a new authority file might indeed be in order.
16:33 nengard it was very possible years ago
16:34 i just keep upgrading my system
16:34 :)
16:34 would a new file just mean dumping the old tables and starting over? wouldn't there still be links left to the bibs?
16:35 jcamins So, the answer to your question is "if your authority file isn't corrupted, the cron job or a full rebuild will take care of the indexing. If the authority file is corrupted, you might have a problem."
16:35 nengard heh
16:35 well obviously it's corrupted cause the full rebuild isn't fixing it
16:35 jcamins Hmm... what I'd probably do is delete all the authorities, reindex Zebra so that you get no results, run link_bibs_to_authorities, and *then* reload authorities.
16:36 nengard k
16:36 can't hurt
16:36 it's a test system after all
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16:43 tcohen slef
16:43 around?
16:46 oleonard @seen slef
16:46 huginn oleonard: slef was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, 35 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <slef> #info MJ Ray, software.coop (England)
16:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1469: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1469/
16:46 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: Order search (search and UI enhancements)
16:46 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) don't display deleted orders in late orders search result
16:46 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) merge parent ordernumber and ordernumber columns in display
16:46 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) add unit tests for 3 acq routines
16:46 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) miscellaneous changes
16:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5336 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Acq history search
16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) use understandable codes rather than magic numbers for orderstatus
16:46 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) fix case where partial status was not correctly set
16:46 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) multiple QA fixes
16:46 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: DBRev 3.13.00.032
16:46 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class for aqorders
16:46 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) remove unused new parameter to NewOrder() that slipped in
16:46 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) improve setting 'partial' order status during upgrade
16:47 jcamins What do you call the accent in the word façade?
16:48 I've always called it a "cedilla," but that sounds Spanish.
16:48 gmcharlt jcamins: that's what I've always called it too
16:48 jcamins Ah, in French they call it cédille.
16:48 gmcharlt cognates FTW
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17:22 reiveune bye
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17:23 dpk khall: yt?
17:25 khall yo
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17:44 nengard jcamins i deleted my authorities, ran the linker and it created a ton of authorities each with only 1 bib attached ... just fyi
17:48 jcamins nengard: that's because you have the AutoGenerateAuthorities (or something like that) syspref turned on.
17:48 * jcamins doesn't use that, and forgets that other people do.
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17:48 Nicole C. Engard: add ConfirmFutureHolds
17:49 nengard AutoCreateAuthorities = generate and  BiblioAddsAuthorities  = allow
17:49 which are you saying i shouldn't have?
17:49 jcamins AutoCreateAuthorities is the one I leave off.
17:49 nengard but it says 'When editing records, generate authority records that are missing' ... these aren't missing they are there
17:49 so it sounds to me like a bug
17:49 it's creating authorities where it shouldn't
17:49 jcamins No it's not.
17:49 It's doing exactly what it's supposed to.
17:50 Well- it is doing exactly what it was designed to do.
17:50 nengard so the description isn't right
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17:50 jcamins No, the description reflects what happened.
17:50 You had no authorities.
17:50 You ran the linker script.
17:51 Every single heading was missing an authority, so it generated one for each (because there's no reindexing in between records).
17:51 nengard hmmmm
17:51 so the manual needs a warning on that explaining that that's what will happen
17:51 and basically it should be off before you run the linker the first time
17:51 jcamins Right.
17:51 nengard and then if you want it on you should turn it on after a reindex
17:51 jcamins That's a good point.
17:51 nengard okay - i'm going to delete my authorities again :)
17:52 jcamins The linker script isn't really intended for generating authorities, which is why I didn't think to put in documentation for how to use it to do so (well, that and the fact that it can't really be used for authority generation).
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18:18 tcohen hi jcamins
18:19 jcamins Hello.
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18:25 jcamins Ooh! Mate!
18:25 tcohen: what temperature should the water be for mate?
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18:27 jcamins Oh, goodness.
18:27 I didn't realize mate was so complicated to prepare.
18:29 tcohen :-D
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18:32 jcamins Ah-ha. Now I understand the straw. :)
18:36 Mmmm.
18:36 That's delicious!
18:36 tcohen++
18:41 tcohen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfGN8-bPjU0
18:46 jcamins Not at all what I expected, somehow.
18:47 It tastes very different from tea.
18:49 And apparently I used the wrong temperature of water. It should be 167 degrees.
18:50 tcohen did u like it?
18:50 jcamins Yup. :)
18:50 I see why you're drinking it all the time.
18:51 tcohen well, we're now drinking an excellent french wine :-P
18:52 * jcamins would drink excellent French wine if it were available to him, but mate will have to do.
18:53 tcohen they are complimentary
18:53 in life i mean :-P
19:05 oleonard What is this mate of which you speak?
19:06 jcamins oleonard: yerba mate.
19:07 oleonard And to you too kind sir.
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19:07 * druthb waves to nengard and talljoy.
19:07 talljoy o/ druthb
19:08 yummy lunch.
19:08 druthb :)  the buffet here was nice today, too.
19:08 talljoy i had greek buffet.  ( i missed the buffet at atlantis_
19:12 nengard hi
19:12 wahanui salut, nengard
19:42 talljoy how did i miss the yerba mate?
19:42 * talljoy pouts
19:58 dpk khall: back from lunch.  Did you see my annotation on 11078?
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20:21 * magnuse wishes the remaining hackfest crew a productive after lunch session
20:21 Dyrcona Yay! Hackfest!
20:22 haxan hi
20:22 I deleted the branches FRanklin, Union, Springfield, etc. but Miday is associated to the Admin patron
20:23 Can I delete this admin patron?
20:23 koha version 3.8
20:23 and then delete midawy barnch?
20:23 midway branch?
20:23 * haxan slaps rangi around a bit with a large fishbot
20:24 haxan rangi?
20:24 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
20:24 haxan the "admin" patron is associated to midway}
20:26 "hi?
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20:28 harry need some help with koha installation using packages
20:28 on ubuntu
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20:29 harry need some help woth the koha installation on ubuntu via packages
20:29 would appreciate any help
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20:30 talljoy hi harry - i'm not an expert on that and some folks are at the kohacon conference and not reliably in channel today
20:30 can you start with a specific error you are encountering?
20:31 harry sure
20:31 i am ending up with the maintenance page when using lynx to configure
20:33 jcamins You'll need to set up DNS, so that the web server can tell you want the staff client and not the OPAC.
20:34 harry can you be specific, this is the first time ever i am working on koha installation
20:34 i am following the instructions from http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages
20:34 dpk khall: yt?
20:35 jcamins I can't at the moment, no. I'm working on other things. This isn't really a Koha thing. You're using Apache to serve both the staff client and the OPAC on the same port using virtual hosts. In order for virtual hosts to work, you have to have your system set up so that you can use the DNS names rather than IP addresses.
20:35 virtual hosts?
20:35 wahanui virtual hosts are http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2[…]sts/examples.html
20:35 jcamins ^^ that document might be helpful.
20:36 Whoops.
20:36 talljoy eek
20:36 jcamins Should've warned him to hold down shift.
20:36 Or control.
20:36 talljoy or thicker skin
20:36 jcamins Nah, he disappeared the moment I shared the link.
20:36 talljoy yup
20:37 Guest3156 is it a must for fresh install of os for libki server to work. i'm having difficulty in connecting to the server installed in linux mint 15 through clinet on ubuntu 12.04.
20:37 talljoy well hopefully that will give him something to chew on
20:37 jcamins He'll presumably be back once he realizes that he just left IRC.
20:46 blou hola koha#
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20:47 blou trying my luck this week, although I know many are still having fun in Reno:  Anyone with knowledge of Acquisitions in the room?
20:47 bug 11062?
20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11062 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Invoice's shipment/shipping cost should  be included PRE-gst tax (as an option)
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20:51 blou this is not my lucky week :)
20:51 jcamins Working on acquisitions is always unlucky.
20:51 :P
20:53 blou hahahahaha, I'll remember that word of wisdom!
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20:54 blou Seems to have been coded by US people, yet in the US, it varies from state to state if the shipping is taxable.  I don't understand the hardcoding...
20:54 Or maybe i just don't understand (anything)
20:54 jcamins blou: gst is a French thing.
20:55 blou is it?  I thought they would have called it VAT
20:55 jcamins You should ask paul_p when (if) he gets back from lunch.
20:55 harry__ hello all, Here is my problem why I use lynx to configure i am ending up with the maintenance page. My OPAC site is library-intra.ttcils.latech.edu and for users it is library.ttcils.latech.edu
20:55 i asked my network admin to forward both of the domain to 138.47.37.171 which is the server i am installing koha
20:55 jcamins blou: yeah, gst doesn't mean anything in the US.
20:55 harry__ i am using this server just for koha
20:56 jcamins harry__: did you check the virtual hosts in /etc/apache2/sites_available/library to make sure they have the domains spelled correctly?
20:56 * jcamins has a tradition of misspelling domains.
20:56 jcamins blou: apparently you have gst in Canada.
20:57 harry__ yes
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20:57 harry__ and can i leave the ports for OPAC and users as 80
20:57 or should they be different
20:58 jcamins If your DNS is configured, they can be the same.
20:59 You restarted Apache after checking the domain names, eh?
20:59 harry__ yes right now i am restarting the server
20:59 blou jcamins: yeah, apparently, some pay that ... :)
21:00 harry__ Where is the DNS file located
21:00 jcamins harry__: your network admin should have configured it.
21:00 harry__ yes he did that
21:01 he routed both the domains to the same ip
21:01 jcamins Yeah, in that case there are no DNS configuration files for you to edit.
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21:02 harry__ ok let me reinstall koha using packages i am sure i made some mistakes.
21:02 i will post the outputs after each installation step
21:03 jcamins You don't need to reinstall.
21:03 The problem is in /etc/apache2/sites_available/library
21:03 harry__ ok let me ckeck
21:03 blou harry__: i did play a lot around theses lately, but I can't really tell you the RIGHT solution.  It involves playing with your koha-conf.xml, /etc/hosts (linux) and the /etc/apache2/ports.conf :(
21:04 harry__: since you're playing with alias, monitor the log  /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log
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21:04 harry__ when i installed i got messages like host name cannot be resolved
21:05 blou jcamins: just figured that file was created by BibLibre, not Bywaters like I (thought i) originally saw.
21:05 harry__ even when i restarted apache
21:05 is that somehting normal
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21:05 jcamins harry__: I've seen that before on working systems.
21:06 harry__ ok just a sec
21:06 blou I'll bug mister paul_p tomorrow, maybe THEN he'll be back from lunch
21:06 * blou wishes he was in Reno
21:06 jcamins blou: tomorrow he'll be traveling, I think.
21:07 Today's the last day of the hackfest.
21:07 blou ok
21:07 I'm in no rush, I'll give him some time to recover (major jet lag).  Thanks again for the direction
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21:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: update 3.14 release notes for second alpha <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b02266ab618eade8b> / Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix unitialized variable warning <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dba27273181f48856> / Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix various QA issues <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]t;a=commitdiff;h=
21:13 harry__ echo deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
21:13 is that command still the same
21:13 for installing on ubuntu 12.04
21:13 cause when i upgraded ub ubuntu it said failed to obtain from that source error 404
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21:19 eythian harry__: it should still work
21:19 harry__: what exactly is the error?
21:19 there might have been a typo in the line when you entered it.
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21:20 eythian jcamins: gst is not just a french thing, NZ has it too
21:21 redbeard45 Wanting to know if I can use Koha to manage book and media resources for 5 different offices with about 6 people in each spread around a city
21:21 eythian redbeard45: short answer is yes
21:21 (there isn't really a longer answer :)
21:21 redbeard45 Currently no database of resources. They have been recorded onto an Excel spreadsheet
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21:22 redbeard45 I just want on online database where a teacher in one office can look up the resources on a topic and find out what there is in the group as a whole - books, DVDs, software, etc
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21:23 eythian redbeard45: yep, it'll do the job just fine
21:24 redbeard45 So I just need to setup a computer somewhere with the admin software, get some hosting established and go from there? I can import resources from Excel file okay? Might need some massaging depending on fields used?
21:25 eythian redbeard45: there's not really any admin software, you just need to set it up on a server and then everything works over a web browser.
21:25 jcamins redbeard45: Koha's web-based so you'll just need a server to put it on.
21:25 eythian: huh. Learn something new every day.
21:25 eythian You can't import spreadsheets directly, but there are tools to convert them with a bit of work.
21:25 jcamins: also Australia.
21:25 jcamins redbeard45: you'll need to convert the data from Excel into MARC, since Koha uses MARC records.
21:26 redbeard45 Best place to find resources to get me on my way?
21:26 jcamins wiki?
21:26 wahanui somebody said wiki was http://wiki.koha-community.org
21:26 jcamins manual?
21:26 wahanui manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
21:26 jcamins marc?
21:26 wahanui marc is the standard that isn't
21:26 jcamins marc?
21:26 wahanui http://marc-must-die.info
21:26 jcamins marc?
21:26 wahanui marc is the standard that isn't
21:26 jcamins bibformats?
21:26 bib formats?
21:26 marc documentation?
21:26 eythian wahanui: literal marc
21:26 wahanui eythian: marc =is= the standard that isn't|<reply>http://marc-must-die.info|<reply>The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here.
21:26 * Dyrcona hands redbeard45 a lollipop.
21:27 redbeard45 Thanks
21:27 eythian redbeard45: those places, and here.
21:27 mailing list?
21:27 wahanui mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/
21:27 eythian also that
21:27 wahanui somebody said also that was a giant undertaking
21:42 harry__ DOMAIN=".myDNSname.org"  # Change this to be your domain. INTRAPORT="80"  # TCP listening port for the administration interface INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="-intra" DEFAULTSQL="" OPACPORT="80"  # TCP listening port for the users' interface OPACPREFIX="" OPACSUFFIX="" ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT="marc21"  # Possible values are 'marc21', 'normarc' and 'unimarc' ZEBRA_LANGUAGE="en"
21:42 eythian paste?
21:42 wahanui paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org
21:42 harry__ my domains are library-intra.ttcils.latech.edu and library.ttcils,latech.edu
21:42 eythian harry__: use that rather than pasting things here
21:42 harry__ ok
21:43 i need help  to fill those
21:43 eythian anyway, that looks fairly sane, though really what matters is what ends up in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/instancename
21:43 those defaults are pretty OK
21:43 harry__ i would use the instance name library
21:44 eythian yep
21:44 redbeard45 Anyone got suggestions for hosting in New Zealand
21:44 harry__ .ttcils.latech.edu is my domain right
21:44 jcamins Except change .myDNSname.org to .ttcils.latech.edu
21:44 harry__ ok ill do it
21:44 eythian redbeard45: wheresmyserver.co.nz (disclaimer: a friend of mine is part owner)
21:45 redbeard45 Thanks!
21:46 dpk khall?
21:47 khall: yt?
21:47 harry__ so do i need to give  aroot password for mysql installation
21:47 oleonard khall is now travelling home dpk
21:47 dpk Sigh.
21:47 harry__ for the root user
21:47 dpk no joy for my bugs.
21:49 eythian harry__: no
21:49 I mean, you should set one
21:49 and write it down somewhere safe, but no part of the koha process requires it.
21:50 harry__ ok
21:52 jcamins dpk: if this is about the rebuild_zebra.pl script, you can't rewrite the rebuild_zebra.pl script as part of the install process. What you'll need to do is get the lock directory from koha-conf.xml using C4::Context->config('somevariable​thatgivesyouthedirectoryyouneed')
21:53 harry__ when i used sudo service apache2 restart it gave an error make_sock: could not bind to address0.0.0.0:80
21:53 no listening sockets available, shutting down
21:53 eythian harry__: that implies you have another webserver running on that machine.
21:53 harry__ action 'start' failed
21:54 its a clean install and i did not install any other webserver
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21:55 eythian you have something else listening on port 80 most likely.
21:55 dpk jcamins: We currently don't specify the RUN_DIR anywhere, but I could either infer it from LOG_DIR (sort of ugly) or explicityly generate it based on $(DESTDIR)/var/run and put it into koha-conf.xml, then use C4::Context as you mention.  I already use that to get the db name
21:55 eythian maybe you somehow have a stray apache process that didn't die.
21:55 jcamins dpk: I'd go with the latter.
21:55 harry__ how to kill that process
21:56 jcamins dpk: rewrite-config.pl is the script that processes koha-conf.xml.
21:57 dpk The other bug was 6435 which I think is still awaiting QA.
21:57 jcamins bug 6435
21:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6435 major, P5 - low, ---, dpk, Signed Off , [ENH] Added daemon mode parameters to rebuild_zebra.pl
21:57 jcamins No opinion there.
21:57 I should go pick up our veggies.
21:58 eythian harry__: you have to find it first. sudo netstat -lp --inet should get you started
21:59 jcamins I always forget about -p
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22:01 eythian probably also worth adding a -n to stop it trying to resolve things when it doesn't need to.
22:02 harry__ eythian: pid/program name 32197/mysqld(state listen)(local address : localhost:mysql)  , 30696/apache2  ( listen, local address: *:http) , 784/dhclient3
22:02 eythian yeah, you have apache2 still running
22:02 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #177: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/177/
22:02 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: Add renewal script
22:02 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix minor template issues
22:02 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix various QA issues
22:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10493 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add renewal script
22:02 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix unitialized variable warning
22:02 * Galen Charlton: update 3.14 release notes for second alpha
22:02 harry__ so hopw to kill it
22:02 jcamins harry__: please use paste.koha-community.org for pasting.
22:02 harry__ ok
22:02 eythian just kill it. with the kill command.
22:03 harry__ sorry
22:05 it  worked
22:10 does this ip 127.0.0.1 should be the servers static ip which is in /etc/hosts
22:11 i mean should i replace it with the servers static ip
22:11 jcamins No, you need to use the DNS you just set up.
22:12 Well, that your network admin set up.
22:12 harry__ ok
22:12 eythian I'd leave /etc/hosts alone
22:12 given you're doing real DNS
22:12 harry__ so do i need to add the two dns here to the file
22:12 so i can leave the file as it is
22:13 ?
22:13 ok
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22:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1470: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1470/
22:53 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: Add renewal script
22:53 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix minor template issues
22:53 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix various QA issues
22:53 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix unitialized variable warning
22:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10493 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add renewal script
22:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #1471 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 23 hr ago)
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23:02 dcook marc--
23:12 jcamins marc-- # so true
23:16 eythian marc++ # it can't help its genetics!
23:18 jcamins dcook: when you tested in yaz-client, did you change how you were retrieving the record?
23:18 The reason for the patch is that it is impossible to retrieve records from Zebra using usmarc, which is what you appear to have been using.
23:18 It looks like there is *also* a bug where Koha can't save massive records.
23:19 (that you reported in a comment)
23:20 dcook Nopes. That was with form xml
23:20 And elements marcxml
23:20 jcamins Okay.
23:20 So it looks like it's also impossible to save records in Koha.
23:20 dcook Impossible to save big records with an accurate leader, yep
23:21 jcamins Right.
23:21 paul_p: Jared is not working on faceting in Zebra.
23:21 All Jared was doing was demonstrating that it could be fixed, and he is capable of it, if someone wants that work done.
23:21 paul_p jcamins OK, a lot of ppl want that work to be done !
23:22 jcamins paul_p: enough to pay for it to be done? That's the question.
23:22 paul_p jcamins = do you mean "if someone want to fund" ?
23:22 OK ;-)
23:22 jcamins = how much ? (I could ask some french libraries)
23:22 jcamins Right. Anything I am willing to do for free, someone would like done, just because it's free.
23:22 Hm.
23:22 I'm not sure.
23:23 * jcamins will figure that out after making dinner.
23:23 paul_p jcamins = drop me an email (I'm not promizing anything !)
23:23 jcamins Of course.
23:24 paul_p jcamins (well, I promize i'll ask & try to convince ;-) )
23:24 jcamins dcook: if gmcharlt is still there, you should ask him about the leader length.
23:24 paul_p jcamins nope, he leaves 1 hour ag
23:24 ago
23:24 s/leaves/leaved/
23:24 jcamins left. :)
23:25 dcook: ah well, he could've told you which version of MARC::Record was needed for that to work.
23:26 paul_p jcamins oh yes, left ! I was not happy with leaved, now I understand why...
23:26 gmcharlt paul_p: the leader lenght is relevant only when serializing as ISO2709
23:27 IMO, that should be done only reluctantly -- i.e., only in those cases where an export specifically requires that
23:27 paul_p gmcharlt ? don't you mean jcamins ?
23:27 gmcharlt ah, no - dcook
23:27 sorry, paul_p
23:29 jcamins gmcharlt: I feel like the invalid leader is a bug that you've mentioned before.
23:30 Found it.
23:30 MARC::Record >=2.0.4
23:30 julian_m fixed it.
23:30 gmcharlt https://sourceforge.net/p/marc[…]6ab2968e5fb0e44f/
23:31 jcamins Yeah.
23:31 gmcharlt but to be clear, that patch still results in an invalid leader
23:31 jcamins Right, but it doesn't corrupt the MARCXML.
23:31 gmcharlt just one that fails less badly
23:34 jcamins dcook: so if you install MARC::Record from CPAN, that may fix your problem.
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23:41 dac Tomas is working on my laptop so I missed most of the convo. On my phone now.
23:41 jcamins dac: so if you install MARC::Record from CPAN, that may fix your problem.
23:42 (summary ^^)
23:43 dac Good summary. Tomas hand edited it to set the record length to 99999
23:43 I think gmcharlt said record length doesn't matter with marcxml?
23:44 To
23:44 gmcharlt dac: yes, only matters to ISO2709
23:44 dac Tcohen is thinking it might be a grs1 issue as well?
23:44 jcamins dac: oh, yeah, probably.
23:46 Yeah, with GRS-1, a record larger than 99999 characters can't be indexed.
23:47 dac With grs1, is it turning marcxml to marc then back?
23:47 jcamins I'm not sure it serializes to ISO2709, but it definitely is parsed as a MARC record.
23:48 And I do now remember knowing that it didn't work.
23:48 dac Gmcharlt: Yeah, I can see record length is irrelevant for reading the record, but I assume that MARC Record caps it at 99999 so that you don't get a 25 character leader?
23:48 gmcharlt dac: from the IRC logs:
23:48 <gmcharlt> https://sourceforge.net/p/marc[…]6ab2968e5fb0e44f/
23:49 IOW, that is the reason to upgrade to a recent version of MARC::Record
23:51 * gmcharlt now boards an aeroplane
23:54 dac Cheers, gmcharlt
23:54 jcamins I got to experience Economy Plus seating yesterday.
23:54 It was really nice.
23:54 dac Yeah, changing the record length seemed like the best solution to Martin and I as well
23:55 Then Grs1 just remains a problem
23:56 jcamins Yeah, I'd forgotten about that.
23:56 dcook I wonder how we deal with that
23:56 jcamins Fix the bug for DOM, and note that it can't be repaired if you won't upgrade to DOM.
23:56 rambutan jcamins: was EP better in any way other than the obvious--more legroom? And was that enough to be worthwhile?
23:56 jcamins Just more legroom.
23:57 But a lot more legroom.
23:57 dcook jcamins: That's my thought as well but is there a way to differentiate between the two installs?
23:57 jcamins And I wouldn't pay for it.
23:57 dcook: no, but it doesn't matter.
23:57 rambutan TNX, will remember that.
23:57 dcook No?
23:57 wahanui http://media.moddb.com/images/[…]33/collapsing.gif
23:57 dcook I suppose not
23:57 Because the behaviour will just remain constant for grs1
23:58 jcamins bshum is a valued customer, so he was in Economy Plus.
23:58 The flight was empty, so I joined him.
23:58 And they didn't notice.
23:58 dcook hehe
23:59 gmcharlt it is good to attach oneself to bshum ;)
23:59 dac joined #koha
23:59 dcook Hmm, poor phone

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