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| 00:07 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.14 alpha1 is released. Please test! Welcome to #koha, the channel of the Koha project - http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 9th November, 02:00 UTC | |
| 00:09 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: start 3.14 release notes -- first alpha <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f10472ddf5a760291> |
| 00:16 | BobB | away now to KohaCon13 - yay! |
| 00:17 | cjh | have fun! |
| 00:18 | wajasu joined #koha | |
| 00:20 | papa joined #koha | |
| 00:35 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #152: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/152/ |
| 00:35 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309 - New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap | |
| 00:35 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Updates for Bug 6594, Schema.org structured data | |
| 00:35 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (Follow-up) Applying changes from Bug 10349 | |
| 00:35 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Update for Bug 10856, improve shelf browser | |
| 00:35 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Add changes from Bug 8712, "and" labels in advanced search | |
| 00:35 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Markup fix from Bug 10566 follow-up | |
| 00:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 00:35 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) apply another follow-up for 10856, improve shelf browser |
| 00:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata |
| 00:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Don't show empty Descriptions/Title notes tabs in OPAC and staff | |
| 00:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10856 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Improve the previous and next items on the shelf browser | |
| 00:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srikanth, ASSIGNED , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug | |
| 00:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OPAC course reserves pages | |
| 00:35 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #153 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 00:35 | wizzyrea | zowie |
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| 01:07 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 01:07 | Project Koha_master build #1447: FIXED in 1 hr 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1447/ | |
| 01:07 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10565: Add a "Patron List" feature for storing and manipulating collections of patrons | |
| 01:07 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10565: (follow-up) don't assume borrowernumber 1 exists in unit test | |
| 01:07 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: DBrev 3.13.00.031 | |
| 01:07 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) refresh DBIC schema class files | |
| 01:07 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 15065: (follow-up) update license header | |
| 01:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10565 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add a "Patron List" feature for storing and manipulating collections of patrons |
| 01:07 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) use datatables.inc |
| 01:07 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) make add list/edit list labels sensitive to context | |
| 01:07 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) add new user permission for patron list management | |
| 01:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15065 was not found. |
| 01:07 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) improve navigation aids |
| 01:07 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) ensure that new patron_lists/ CGI directory is installed | |
| 01:07 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10096: (follow-up) fix typo introduced in previous followup | |
| 01:07 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 8798: (follow-up) remove DBIC_DONT_VALIDATE_RELS | |
| 01:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10096 new feature, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add a Z39.50 interface for authority searching |
| 01:07 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Add the use of DBIx::Class | |
| 01:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1448 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 01:16 | eythian | http://debian.koha-community.org/~robin/nytprof/ <-- running NYTProf on opac-search.pl with a remote database (so, higher latency.) I'm going to spend the day seeing if I can fix up one or two of the worst cases here. |
| 01:21 | jcamins | Isn't ping supposed to be unnecessary? |
| 01:21 | Oh, it's not a direct call. | |
| 01:21 | eythian | No, it's coming from inside the db stuff I think. |
| 01:22 | I'm starting with optimising GetBranches and working my way down, I think. | |
| 01:23 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #153: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/153/ |
| 01:23 | Galen Charlton: start 3.14 release notes -- first alpha | |
| 01:29 | rambutan | @later tell mtompset http://x2t.com/3/ph |
| 01:29 | huginn | rambutan: The operation succeeded. |
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| 02:17 | cait | wiki? |
| 02:17 | wahanui | wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
| 02:17 | cait | hmjust not seeing my typo then |
| 02:19 | eythian | if anyone's interested, I'm tackling some low-hanging performance issues on bug 11051. There will hopefully be some easy sign-offs on there :) |
| 02:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11051 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Performance of opac-search |
| 02:19 | cait | :) |
| 02:19 | eythian | it can take ~8 seconds to run a search on our servers, because there's far too many database requests. |
| 02:23 | cait | ah right |
| 02:23 | eythian | That one patch there should get rid of around 200 of them. |
| 02:24 | cait | kathryn: thanks a lot for the present - it was totally unexpected and i love it :) |
| 02:25 | rangi | yay eythian ! |
| 02:26 | paul_p joined #koha | |
| 02:38 | eythian | # spent 289ms making 295 calls to C4::Context::dbh, avg 980µs/call |
| 02:38 | that really adds up | |
| 02:39 | cait | eythian: is kathryn around? |
| 02:39 | eythian | cait: she is, but she's talking to people |
| 02:39 | cait | ah alright |
| 02:48 | kathryn | hello cait :) |
| 02:48 | cait | :) |
| 02:48 | I only wanted to say thank you :) | |
| 02:48 | kathryn | hehe you're welcome! |
| 02:48 | thank YOU! | |
| 02:48 | cait | I really love it |
| 02:48 | * cait | hasn't done anything! |
| 02:49 | eythian | You'll be feeding your workmates traditional New Zealand food from now on, I guess :) |
| 02:49 | kathryn | cait: ask any kiwi what they like in it and they'll tell you. It will be baked goods. |
| 02:50 | cait | :) |
| 02:50 | eythian | Well duh |
| 02:50 | cait | it's probably going what i will start with |
| 02:50 | i like baking | |
| 02:50 | and i ate some pretty yummy things in nz :) | |
| 02:51 | kathryn | I seriously arrived on the job a year too late! |
| 02:51 | cait | hm i might agree with that |
| 02:51 | woudl have been nice to meet you :) | |
| 02:52 | kathryn | one day! |
| 02:52 | cait | i hope so :) |
| 02:52 | kathryn | :D |
| 02:53 | wizzyrea | cait - can you think of an area that needs id's and such that doesn't currently have them |
| 02:54 | cait | hmm |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | is ok if you can't |
| 02:55 | cait | on the members detai page - maybe take a look if it's easy to get rid of some of the lines, i think i had to resort to js there in the past |
| 02:55 | like we hid some fields with borrowerunwanted... but they still showed up there | |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | hm that sounds more like a problem with borrowerunwanted |
| 02:55 | cait | yeah a bit |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | but good idea |
| 02:55 | cait | it doesn't cover for the detail page yet |
| 02:56 | also i had a request recently form a library to hide columns and lines in the messaging table so the users can't change some - but css is not really save there. | |
| 02:56 | i mean you could get past it | |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1448: SUCCESS in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1448/ |
| 02:58 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309 - New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap | |
| 02:58 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Updates for Bug 6594, Schema.org structured data | |
| 02:58 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (Follow-up) Applying changes from Bug 10349 | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 02:58 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Update for Bug 10856, improve shelf browser |
| 02:58 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Add changes from Bug 8712, "and" labels in advanced search | |
| 02:58 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Markup fix from Bug 10566 follow-up | |
| 02:58 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) apply another follow-up for 10856, improve shelf browser | |
| 02:58 | * Galen Charlton: start 3.14 release notes -- first alpha | |
| 02:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata |
| 02:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Don't show empty Descriptions/Title notes tabs in OPAC and staff | |
| 02:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10856 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Improve the previous and next items on the shelf browser | |
| 02:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srikanth, ASSIGNED , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug | |
| 02:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OPAC course reserves pages | |
| 03:02 | wizzyrea | in fact, it seems like borrowerunwanted isn't working at all... |
| 03:04 | well don't put any spaces before or after your pipes, silly. | |
| 03:04 | nm it's working | |
| 03:05 | cait | oh and hm, if you create a new list and have sharing lists off, there are still some optionsfor sharing |
| 03:05 | that i am not sure if they are functional yet | |
| 03:05 | just trying to think of things i hid recently with jquery :) | |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | all great :) |
| 03:06 | oh here's the thing | |
| 03:07 | if you *have data* in your borrower for a hidden field, the interface will still show it even if you can't input or edit the data. | |
| 03:07 | so yea, you might find yourself in a proper situation where it's easier to hide that than destroy the data (or you might want to keep the data but just not show it?) | |
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| 03:13 | cait | ah right |
| 03:14 | i think we did improve it a bit already | |
| 03:14 | liw: oh, i have another | |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea | othername, specifically, doesn't have an id |
| 03:14 | cait | acq |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 03:15 | cait | like make it possible to hide deliveryand billing place |
| 03:15 | when opening a basket andon the summary | |
| 03:15 | wizzyrea | i so wish we had sample data for acquisitions. |
| 03:16 | cait | it's not so easy to provie |
| 03:16 | lots of dependencie | |
| 03:16 | s | |
| 03:16 | and having dates | |
| 03:17 | wizzyrea | at LEAST sample budgets. |
| 03:17 | cait | yeah, but they have a start and an end date too |
| 03:17 | hm you could do something like now + x | |
| 03:18 | wizzyrea | sample vendors. |
| 03:19 | i only whinge about it because I'm trying to find things we can actually fix within 60-90 minutes | |
| 03:19 | cait | yeah i know |
| 03:19 | wizzyrea | and 15 minutes spent setting up a budget, vendor, currency, basket, etc. |
| 03:19 | cait | sample vendors should be not too hard |
| 03:20 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 03:20 | is more time than I have :) | |
| 03:20 | cait | currencies we do have - just the english don't set the active one |
| 03:20 | and not sure hte german does currently, but it could | |
| 03:20 | wizzyrea | i mean 15 minutes in the workshop - I probably do have time to make some sample vendors and stick them in. :) |
| 03:21 | cait | yeah |
| 03:34 | ok, guess i have to sleep :) | |
| 03:34 | bye all :) | |
| 03:34 | cait left #koha | |
| 03:36 | wizzyrea | gnite :) |
| 04:36 | eythian | so with caching on, transformMARCXML4XSLT takes about 1 second _longer_ to run. |
| 04:37 | (across its 25 calls) | |
| 04:41 | mtj__ | heya eythian |
| 04:41 | eythian | hi |
| 04:41 | mtj__ | wow, how come it takes longer with caching O_o? |
| 04:42 | eythian | I don't exactly know |
| 04:42 | compare this: file:///tmp/nytprof/usr-share-koha-lib-C4-XSLT-pm-1282-line.html#75 | |
| 04:42 | to this: http://debian.koha-community.o[…]1320-line.html#75 | |
| 04:43 | the second one being cached | |
| 04:43 | it's the call to GetMarcStructure which is cached. | |
| 04:44 | mtj__ | # spent 1.60s making 25 calls to Memoize::__ANON__[(eval 1015)[Memoize.pm:73]:1], avg 64.1ms/call |
| 04:45 | is that the slow bit of the caching example? ^^ | |
| 04:45 | line 78 | |
| 04:46 | eythian | yeah |
| 04:46 | mtj__ | yow, thats a bit fishy... |
| 04:47 | eythian | it's quite probably the serialisation being slow. |
| 04:51 | I'm wondering if caching transformMARCXML4XSLT should be cached. | |
| 04:51 | it does a lot of stuff that might benefit. | |
| 04:53 | oh, I sent you a file:// url | |
| 04:54 | http://debian.koha-community.o[…]1282-line.html#75 | |
| 04:54 | that's the URL I meant first | |
| 04:54 | mtj__: ^ | |
| 04:57 | mtj__ | ta, looking now... |
| 04:57 | eythian | mtj__: I'm making notes on bug 11051 |
| 04:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11051 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Performance of opac-search |
| 04:58 | mtj__ | wow, thats really surprising |
| 04:59 | eythian | it is, though it's easy to treat caching as a magic bullet however it has its own overheads too. |
| 05:00 | mtj__ | memoize is using memcached, yeah? |
| 05:00 | eythian | yeah |
| 05:03 | mtj__ | and your koha is talking to a db on another server, too |
| 05:05 | eythian | yeah, but memcached is local, so this is even worse for ones where the database is local |
| 05:07 | mtj__: added a patch to bug 11051 if you're keen to have a look. | |
| 05:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11051 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Performance of opac-search |
| 05:08 | eythian | actually, caching transformMARCXML4XSLT isn't helpful as it is likely to have different parameters for each call. |
| 05:09 | GetAuthorisedValueDesc is the next big one. | |
| 05:09 | > # spent 782ms (16.8+765) within C4::Biblio::GetAuthorisedValueDesc which was called 295 times, avg 2.65ms/call: | |
| 05:09 | it's not fast _and_ it's called 295 times | |
| 05:10 | mtj__ | eythian: ill take a look at a signoff later tonite :) |
| 05:10 | eythian | cheers |
| 05:10 | > # spent 291ms making 295 calls to C4::Context::dbh, avg 987µs/call | |
| 05:10 | jikes | |
| 05:11 | > # spent 1.36s making 1422 calls to DBI::db::ping, avg 955µs/call | |
| 05:11 | !! | |
| 05:14 | I don't know how to resolve that | |
| 05:14 | I could remove the ping call, but anything long-running would still have issues. | |
| 05:15 | mtj__ | curious... do the ping calls still happen on a local box? |
| 05:15 | eythian | I'd expect so |
| 05:15 | it's more to make sure your database handle is still active. | |
| 05:16 | I might email the list, see what others say | |
| 05:16 | wajasu | congrats on the DBIC work. |
| 05:16 | eythian | DBIC? |
| 05:17 | wajasu | bug 8798 |
| 05:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Add the use of DBIx::Class |
| 05:17 | eythian | ah right |
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| 05:19 | WaylonR | hiya all. Okay! |
| 05:19 | bug 9055 | |
| 05:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod |
| 05:19 | mtj__ | hiya wajasu, WaylonR |
| 05:19 | WaylonR | need someone to have a look at it, and need help with a test plan... just brought it forward to master. |
| 05:21 | mtj__ | eythian: i've always thought it would be interesting to come up with some basic NYTProf tests, and run them on historical koha releases |
| 05:22 | ...to try and spot what has got faster and slower, with every new release | |
| 05:22 | eythian | it would be interesting. |
| 05:24 | mtj__ | WaylonR, i've got to head off now, sorry... |
| 05:24 | i should be on irc tomorrow, tho | |
| 05:27 | WaylonR: , just a quicky - your patch doesnt apply clean | |
| 05:28 | to commit 6f0a3f11b0b24af7b1a62399c0daace5c88887fb | |
| 05:29 | WaylonR | hmm? |
| 05:29 | don't have that commit. | |
| 05:29 | git show 6f0a3f11b0b24af7b1a62399c0daace5c88887fb | |
| 05:29 | fatal: bad object 6f0a3f11b0b24af7b1a62399c0daace5c88887fb | |
| 05:36 | mtj__ | ah, sorry - my mistake.... |
| 05:37 | patch does apply clean :) | |
| 05:37 | but, me REALLY gotta go now | |
| 05:38 | WaylonR | thanks! |
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| 06:24 | * magnuse | waves and cheers for dbic |
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| 06:39 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:39 | wahanui | que tal, alex_a |
| 06:40 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
| 06:40 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:41 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:41 | magnuse | @wunder reno, nv |
| 06:41 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 4.8°C (11:30 PM PDT on October 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:41 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 06:41 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 15.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:41 | magnuse | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 06:41 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 15.0°C (3:00 AM ART on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
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| 06:41 | magnuse | heh |
| 06:41 | bonjour reiveune | |
| 06:42 | reiveune | hello magnuse, and everybody :) |
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| 07:06 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:14 | magnuse | bonjour gaetan_B |
| 07:22 | gaetan_B | hi magnuse, everything's fine ? |
| 07:22 | i have heard there's a public library in Oslo that is using Koha with rdf... Could it be that you are behing this ? | |
| 07:22 | magnuse | gaetan_B: all good! |
| 07:23 | at the moment there are no public libraries in norway using koha. there might be one that is interested in using koha with rdf. i can't really say much more at the moment. ;-) | |
| 07:31 | gaetan_B | magnuse: let's hope this works out, that would be great :) |
| 07:31 | magnuse | yup |
| 07:31 | gaetan_B | i am looking forward to the library that will say "well no, we're not using marc" :) |
| 07:34 | magnuse | yeah, that will be a great day! |
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| 07:34 | Herwig | Morning |
| 07:37 | Annyone had - Cannot place hold - No copies are available to be placed on hold - before ? | |
| 08:28 | KohaCon 13 in the starting blocks ? :) | |
| 08:31 | magnuse | Herwig: yup, guess it starts tomorrow |
| 08:31 | well, in a little more than 24 hours | |
| 08:36 | Herwig | bit far for me (i found what was wrong with cannot place hold ... the item was not checked out ... i was thinking that you could put things on hold that where in the library also) |
| 08:39 | i wanna do one of the future Hackfests ... hope i get there one day | |
| 08:43 | magnuse | Herwig: yay! |
| 08:43 | there is a syspref that let's you decide if it should be possible to place holds on items that are not on loan | |
| 08:44 | Herwig | aha |
| 08:44 | gonna search for it | |
| 08:44 | magnuse | i *think* it's something like AllowOnShelfHolds |
| 08:44 | yup AllowOnShelfHolds | |
| 08:45 | woohoo for bug 10309 being pushed | |
| 08:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 08:50 | Herwig | did work thx magnuse :) |
| 08:52 | magnuse | cool |
| 08:52 | oleonard++ a million times for the new design | |
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| 09:08 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 09:09 | magnuse | moin drojf |
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| 09:11 | drojf | hi magnuse |
| 09:12 | ah it's kohacon arrival day already? :) | |
| 09:15 | magnuse | it is |
| 09:15 | guess it all starts in a little more than 24 hours | |
| 09:15 | drojf | nice. i am so jealous |
| 09:28 | * magnuse | too |
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| 09:39 | magnuse | guten morgen cait! |
| 09:39 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 09:39 | i am not here ;) | |
| 09:39 | well should be sleeping but kept waking up | |
| 09:39 | magnuse | yeah, it's almost lunchtime, y'know ;-) |
| 09:40 | cait | yeah, guess i am still jet lagged |
| 09:41 | magnuse | sounds like it |
| 09:41 | wahanui | sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;) |
| 09:41 | magnuse | hehe |
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| 10:17 | * cait | waves at drojf |
| 10:17 | drojf | hi cait :) |
| 10:17 | are you in reno already? | |
| 10:17 | cait | yp |
| 10:17 | since sunday night | |
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| 10:24 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 10:24 | magnuse | hiya mtompset |
| 10:24 | mtompset | greetings, magnuse. |
| 10:25 | Do you have an idea on how to hunt down what patch removed a line? | |
| 10:26 | magnuse | hm, not off the top of my head... |
| 10:30 | mtompset | @later tell rambutan Thanks for the link. Thankfully, my mother-in-law is here in Canada visiting, so no worries. :) |
| 10:30 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:55 | druthb | o/ |
| 13:03 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb. |
| 13:03 | druthb | :) hi, mtompset. :) |
| 13:04 | mtompset | How is your git-fu? I'm trying to figure out what bug/patch removed the suggestion line from C4/Auth.pm around line 900-1100. It's still in 3.12.05, but isn't in master. |
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| 13:06 | mtompset | - suggestion => C4::Context->preference("suggestion"), |
| 13:06 | I see a line in "git log -p" | |
| 13:06 | druthb | git on 3.12.05, and do a git log <filename>, and get the hash of the patch at that point, then go to master, and git log <filename> and look at patches since then. |
| 13:06 | mtompset | How do I know what patch it is. |
| 13:06 | Hmm... okay... I'll try that. | |
| 13:07 | druthb | TIMTOWTDI, of course. my git-fu is not *that* great, but I manage. |
| 13:07 | mtompset | Okay, I didn't get that. |
| 13:08 | druthb | TIMTOWTDI? |
| 13:09 | mtompset | Yes, what is that?! |
| 13:10 | druthb | "There Is More Than One Way To Do It." One of the core philosophies of the Perl community. (It's also the online handle—TimToady—of the author of Perl, Larry Wall) |
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| 13:21 | mtompset | Is it possible to have a commit for a bug with patches that aren't attached to bugzilla? |
| 13:24 | I'm confused by commit eb92d94be1fab85001357b9a436f1577aa0db089.. | |
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| 13:24 | mtompset | Why is there any Auth.pm stuff in there? |
| 13:25 | Shane-S | quick question, can I load label templates after the fact of initial setup |
| 13:26 | cait | Shane-S: only using mysql directly |
| 13:26 | mtompset | I've never used them, so I don't know. Sorry. :( |
| 13:27 | cait | Shane-S: the files are just SQL - you can do it on command line or using mysql workbench or similar if you want a gui |
| 13:27 | there is just not a built in way in Koha | |
| 13:27 | and good morning everyone :) | |
| 13:27 | Shane-S | cait: hmm..I don't have access atm, anyone know the Avery 5160 template settings? or can link to them? |
| 13:28 | cait | hm let me find the file for you |
| 13:28 | maybe you can read that | |
| 13:28 | Shane-S | ty |
| 13:28 | magnuse | guten morgen again cait :-) |
| 13:29 | cait | Shane-S: bit hard to read |
| 13:29 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f10472ddf5a760291 | |
| 13:29 | i think line 24 but not sure it will be helfpul | |
| 13:30 | Shane-S | cait: TY better then nothing :) |
| 13:30 | Gives me values to input at least | |
| 13:30 | cait | if you want to know the columns, you could do a report: select * from creator_templates |
| 13:31 | then the sequence must fit together and youwould see if entered correctly | |
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| 13:43 | mtompset | Greetings, ebegin. |
| 13:47 | ebegin | Hey mtompset ! Did you solve your indexing problem ? |
| 13:47 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 13:47 | I put TMPDIR into /etc/environment and rebooted. | |
| 13:47 | I also found some configuration issues in the koha-conf.xml | |
| 13:49 | I also discovered you have to put the -d foobar before -f instancename, in order to trigger it that way. | |
| 13:50 | But we are now happily limping along, until we get our new QA system signed off, and then we'll move Live to the same host provider. | |
| 13:50 | Shane-S | is code39 supposed to be really blocky and wide with single digit barcodes? |
| 13:56 | okay changing 1 -> 1001 made code39 look nice, is there any way to increment the DB via the gui? | |
| 13:56 | otherwise I have to wait till I am back at my office to SSH into MySQL | |
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| 13:58 | Shane-S | never mind, it seems typing that incremented the field automatically |
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| 14:07 | mtompset | Greetings, maximep nengard. :) |
| 14:09 | nengard | morning |
| 14:15 | cait | hi nengard |
| 14:17 | nengard | hiya |
| 14:18 | mtompset | I'm assuming some of you are at the KohaCon now? |
| 14:19 | maximep | oh how I wish I was -_- |
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| 14:32 | gmcharlt | bgkriegel++ |
| 14:32 | mtompset | Greetings, gmcharlt. |
| 14:33 | gmcharlt | hi magnuse |
| 14:33 | er, hi mtompset | |
| 14:33 | mtompset | not a problem. :) |
| 14:33 | gmcharlt | tab completion: YOU HAVE FAILED ME ;) |
| 14:33 | mtompset | It's handy frequently though. :) |
| 14:33 | May I ask you a question, gmcharlt? | |
| 14:33 | gmcharlt | hmm? |
| 14:34 | mtompset | commit eb92d94be1fab85001357b9a436f1577aa0db089 |
| 14:34 | Does that really touch Auth.pm? | |
| 14:34 | And is that related to bug 10309? | |
| 14:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 14:35 | gmcharlt | yes, part of that patch includes fiddling with the system preferences that are exported by default to the template |
| 14:35 | one of the things that C4::Auth does that probably should be moved elsewhere | |
| 14:36 | mtompset | I was noticing that suggestion was removed. |
| 14:37 | So is the suggestion system preference removed, or just not exported? | |
| 14:38 | cait | there is a new template toolkit plugin now you can use to check system preferences |
| 14:38 | gmcharlt | the idea is that it not be exported by default, and that it either gets exported by one of the approriate scripts |
| 14:38 | cait | i think oleonardmight have moved some things that way |
| 14:38 | gmcharlt | or be checked in the template itself using the plugin that cait just mentioned |
| 14:39 | cait | the problem with some of those like suggestion is that you have to export in every script - because it shows up in the toolbar |
| 14:39 | or in a lot of places | |
| 14:39 | so for those things often Auth.pm was used | |
| 14:39 | i think | |
| 14:40 | gmcharlt | indeed, that is so |
| 14:40 | mtompset | Which is an ugly hack. |
| 14:41 | okay. Now I know how to properly rebase my login patch. :) | |
| 14:43 | Thank you, gmcharlt cait. :) | |
| 14:48 | I've also noticed some strange code: "" . C4::Context->preference("opacbookbag") | |
| 14:48 | Is this so that if the preference is undefined, the "" is still set? | |
| 14:49 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 14:50 | mtompset | But that means the log file still gets a silent warning then, right? :( |
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| 15:01 | paul_p | good morning #koha ! |
| 15:01 | heading to breakfast in a few seconds... | |
| 15:12 | mtompset | Greetings, paul_p. Enjoy breakfast. :) |
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| 15:28 | kivilahtio | good evening paul_p |
| 15:31 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #154 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:34 | Starting build #1449 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 15:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10309: (follow-up) restore setting some OPAC template variables in C4::Auth <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]94ba2b19bc97980ac> |
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| 16:17 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #154: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/154/ |
| 16:17 | Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) restore setting some OPAC template variables in C4::Auth | |
| 16:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 16:26 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
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| 17:14 | mtompset | Thanks, gmcharlt. :) |
| 17:19 | magnuse | dbic and new theme - 3.14 is going to be awesome! |
| 17:22 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1449: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1449/ |
| 17:22 | Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) restore setting some OPAC template variables in C4::Auth | |
| 17:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 17:23 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:26 | mtompset | awesome like pi? ;) |
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| 17:46 | yhager | Is there a way to send email to patrons from the staff client? |
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| 17:52 | * maximep | is sad that I didn't have time to help push bug 7710 for 3.14 :/ |
| 17:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , multiple holds per title |
| 17:53 | maximep | but is happy that reserve now has a PK :D |
| 18:26 | mtompset | PK? |
| 18:26 | gmcharlt | primary key |
| 18:27 | mtompset | I know too many shortforms, hence the need for clarification. :) |
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| 18:37 | * cait | waves |
| 18:38 | cait | logs? |
| 18:38 | wahanui | somebody said logs was http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
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| 18:47 | mtompset | It's been rather uneventful today, cait. :) |
| 18:47 | cait | yeah was hoping tcohen would be here |
| 18:47 | not sure if he is following me on twitter | |
| 18:48 | was trying to catch him for lunch | |
| 18:48 | mtompset | Haven't seen him. |
| 18:48 | Did you try facebook'ing him? | |
| 18:49 | cait | i am not on facebook |
| 18:52 | mtompset | Well, seeing as his last update is october 11, I don't think he is either. :) |
| 18:53 | cait | yeah, i will figure out something |
| 18:55 | found him on twitter :) | |
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| 20:04 | cait-m | waves |
| 20:06 | @wunder reno, nevada | |
| 20:06 | huginn | cait-m: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 13.3°C (1:00 PM PDT on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:06 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 20:06 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 27.8°C (3:06 PM CDT on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | it is so weird having you all on pacific time. |
| 20:09 | cait-m | :) |
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| 20:44 | eythian | hi |
| 20:44 | wahanui | hola, eythian |
| 20:48 | magnuse | cait-m: did you hook up with tcohen? he was here for 3 minutes, about half an hour ago |
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| 21:00 | * magnuse | feels sorry for all the poor people in reno, running around, trying to find each other |
| 21:00 | magnuse | nah... |
| 21:03 | have fun #koha! | |
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| 21:21 | wai | need help installing OPAC with koha 3.10 |
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| 21:34 | mtompset | wai, what have you done so far? |
| 21:35 | wai: Are you still here? | |
| 21:37 | wai | i have installed koha and drupal 7. But we are trying to figure out how to install OPAC to connect koha to drupal 7? |
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| 21:39 | mtompset | Okay... I can't help you connect OPAC to drupal. |
| 21:40 | But I can help you make sure your koha is fully installed. | |
| 21:40 | wai | ok |
| 21:42 | what is the koha connector? | |
| 21:42 | mtompset | I know nothing of that. |
| 21:43 | Are you able to use OPAC normally already? | |
| 21:43 | What OS are you using? | |
| 21:44 | wai | i think so. The big quetion. Is OPAC installed when Koha is installed or do you install it seperately |
| 21:44 | Linux | |
| 21:44 | mtompset | Let's start at the beginning. |
| 21:44 | Which linux? | |
| 21:45 | -- side note: OPAC is installed when Koha is installed, but there is a web installation step after the command line set up. And your OPAC won't be available until after the web installation is completed. | |
| 21:46 | So, which linux are you using? | |
| 21:48 | wai | just a minute |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | it's installed |
| 21:51 | mtompset | wai: Or three? ;) |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea: But you can't use it immediately on a fresh install, until the databases are created/filled by the web installation step. | |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 22:01 | wai | sorry im back |
| 22:03 | we are using ubuntu 12.04 LTS | |
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| 22:11 | wizzyrea | https://drupal.org/project/koha_connector < is this what you're trying to use? |
| 22:11 | wai | yes. but everytime we try to use it. it shuts down our koha server |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | define "shut down" |
| 22:14 | mtompset | Okay... I'm back... Ubuntu. |
| 22:15 | So, if you don't use it, you can search your OPAC just fine then? | |
| 22:16 | wai | it wipes the server so we have to revert back to it, i think we may be missing something that needs to be done |
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| 22:17 | mtompset | wipes the server?! |
| 22:17 | What do you mean "wipes the server"? | |
| 22:18 | Because that connect looks like it is maintained by people at BibLibre. | |
| 22:20 | When you say revert, do you mean "git reset --hard"? | |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | installing drupal probably wipes out your apache configs |
| 22:26 | and/or subsumes the koha ones with the drupal ones. | |
| 22:26 | koha's not gone, just you can't see it anymore. | |
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| 22:30 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen cait. Enjoying KohaCon? |
| 22:30 | eythian | if he's following the advice everyone gave when someone was asking something similar on the list the other day, he's probably disabled the default site, because people who don't understand how apache works keep giving advice about how to configure it. </grump> |
| 22:30 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 22:31 | mtompset | Quite possibly, eythian. And you validly grump. |
| 22:32 | I think I'll tweak the Ubuntu instructions further in that specific area. | |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | that would probably be good. |
| 22:33 | cait | mtompset: yep |
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| 22:43 | mtompset | Did wiki.koha-community.org just go missing in action? |
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| 22:46 | eythian | nope |
| 22:46 | still works for me | |
| 22:49 | mtompset | Okay... my page just wasn't refreshing. |
| 22:49 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]able_Default_Site | |
| 22:49 | Enough bolds, underlines, and italics? | |
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| 23:00 | BobB | Is anyone in Reno about now? |
| 23:00 | mtompset | cait is. :) |
| 23:00 | tcohen is. | |
| 23:00 | tcohen | hi |
| 23:00 | wahanui | que tal, tcohen |
| 23:01 | mtompset | How goes the KohaCon? |
| 23:01 | cait | hey BobB |
| 23:01 | are you here yet? | |
| 23:01 | tcohen | i've met oleonard, rangi, cait, paul_p |
| 23:01 | BobB | hi mtompset, I've just arrived and need to get some sleep |
| 23:01 | rambuten | very good so far |
| 23:01 | mtompset | Cool. |
| 23:01 | BobB | hi cait, yes just in my room 15 mins |
| 23:01 | cait | and he survived.... come and meet us, we are sitting closeto the elevator 1-12 |
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| 23:01 | cait | :) |
| 23:01 | BobB | ok, I will come down, thx |
| 23:02 | rambuten | I'll be down in 30 min or so |
| 23:02 | BobB | thx mtompset :) |
| 23:02 | mtompset | Not a problem. I'm not there. :( |
| 23:02 | No one felt like making a round trip ticket donation. :( | |
| 23:03 | Of couse, I didn't ask anyone, so to be expected. ;) | |
| 23:03 | rambuten | mtompset, everybody in the PH OK? |
| 23:03 | mtompset | I haven't heard about any of my immediate colleagues being affected. |
| 23:04 | I'm a little out of the SIL Philippines loop. | |
| 23:04 | rambuten | SIL? |
| 23:05 | mtompset | The no longer a valid meaning, but archaic meaning is Summer Institute of Linguistics. |
| 23:05 | archiac meaning? | |
| 23:05 | meaning? | |
| 23:05 | Okay, good wahanui didn't pick it up. | |
| 23:06 | The organization I was seconded to while in the Philippines initially. | |
| 23:06 | tcohen | cait, what plan? |
| 23:06 | i'm about to take a shower and head to bb | |
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| 23:21 | BobB | hi dcook |
| 23:21 | hi tcohen | |
| 23:22 | cait is organising a meet-up for dinner | |
| 23:23 | dcook | hey BobB |
| 23:23 | BobB | there is an atrium lounge on ground floor near the bottom of the 1-12 lifts |
| 23:23 | dcook | Hmm, neato |
| 23:23 | BobB | meeting there just before 8 |
| 23:23 | dcook, be there or be square :) | |
| 23:23 | dcook | Are the 1-12 lifts the first set? |
| 23:24 | hehe | |
| 23:24 | I'll be there (or at least try to find the right place at the right time) | |
| 23:24 | BobB | not sure, but not too far from the desk |
| 23:24 | tcohen | next to the desk |
| 23:24 | dcook | Ahh, is the lounge that place with all the chairs and little tables? |
| 23:24 | I think I saw a couple people over there earlier | |
| 23:24 | tcohen | :D |
| 23:25 | BobB | they were probably cait and rangi :) |
| 23:25 | dcook | Mmm, nopes |
| 23:25 | Older lady and an asian fellow | |
| 23:25 | But I think I know the place. 8 sounds great. | |
| 23:25 | tcohen | that's too rude dcook |
| 23:25 | BobB | then you are right, that's not rangi |
| 23:26 | dcook | tcohen: rude? |
| 23:26 | time to skype the wife | |
| 23:26 | bbiab | |
| 23:26 | BobB | I am going to grab a couple of hours sleep now ... |
| 23:26 | Its nearly 30 hours since I was horizontal | |
| 23:26 | See you at 8 | |
| 23:26 | wizzyrea | gracious. |
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| 23:43 | cait | dcook: we are still here.... |
| 23:43 | you might try again |
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