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| 00:03 | eythian | http://31.media.tumblr.com/de3[…]1qzib9vo1_500.png |
| 00:04 | dcook | hehe |
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| 00:32 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 00:32 | gmcharlt: You around? | |
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| 01:14 | mtompset | Greetings, papa. |
| 01:14 | gmcharlt | hi mtompset |
| 01:15 | mtompset | Ah there you are, gmcharlt. I've put up a revision on the patch for 10584, but I'd like some feedback on it, so I could tweak it better if there are still problems. |
| 01:17 | gmcharlt | mtompset: I won't be testing until tomorrow, but upon looking at it, my eyeball believes that it likely addresses my concern |
| 01:18 | mtompset | Not a problem. That frees me to work on other stuff until the testing tomorrow. :) |
| 01:18 | Thanks. | |
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| 01:38 | dcook | MARC 008 position 38 |
| 01:38 | Bibliographic data in the MARC record is completely romanized and any printed cards produced are also in romanized form. | |
| 01:38 | Record contained characters that could not be converted to machine-readable form (e.g., incidental nonroman characters on predominantly roman alphabet records, mathematical symbols, etc.). | |
| 01:38 | I'm sure it had its time and its place... | |
| 01:40 | gmcharlt | indeed |
| 02:47 | mtompset | ARG! You think you've solved a bug, and then another test case comes to mind, and you realize you need to modify another 2 files. |
| 02:56 | Okay, confused... only opac-MARCdetail.pl is failing to hide. Read the logs. | |
| 02:59 | Question: what could trigger a &YAML::Load error message for opac-MARCdetail.pl, but not opac-detail.pl and opac-ISBDdetail.pl? | |
| 03:00 | Is some other "use" statement in the other two triggering the load of YAML::Load? | |
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| 03:26 | mtompset | Greetings, kathryn. |
| 03:27 | Greetings, kathryn_. | |
| 03:27 | kathryn_ | hi mthompset :) |
| 03:27 | mtompset | common typo. No h. :) |
| 03:27 | kathryn_ | doh! |
| 03:28 | mtompset | Which use plak friendlier 'use' or 'require'? |
| 03:29 | Which is plak friendlier: 'use' or 'require'? | |
| 03:33 | rangi | nigeria in the house |
| 03:33 | mtompset: they do different things, use is require; import; | |
| 03:33 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Con2014_Proposals | |
| 03:34 | mtompset | Yes, but both solve the YAML::Load failure problem. So, which is the correct/best? |
| 03:36 | I'm tweaking opac/opac-detail.pl, opac/opac-MARCdetail.pl, and opac/opac-ISBDdetail.pl -- use C4::Items; and a call to GetHiddenItems() fails for MARCdetail. | |
| 03:36 | C4::Items calls YAML::Load without a use or require at the top. | |
| 03:36 | in the GetHiddenItems function. | |
| 03:37 | rangi | it should be use |
| 03:37 | use qw(); | |
| 03:37 | where you define what you want to use | |
| 03:37 | kathryn_ | can anyone tell me how to change me nick? that underscore follows me like a bad smell :) |
| 03:37 | eythian | /nick kathryn |
| 03:38 | (as in, you type that) | |
| 03:38 | kathryn | I half expected you to steal my nick...thank eythian :) |
| 03:38 | eythian | heh |
| 03:38 | mtompset | Isn't using parethesis for qw being obsoleted? |
| 03:39 | eythian | I'd be surprised |
| 03:39 | dcook | qw//; is another option, no? |
| 03:39 | eythian | there are many options |
| 03:39 | ||, [], {}, xx, ##, ... | |
| 03:40 | actually, maybe not xx, I'm not sure. | |
| 03:40 | mtompset | I personally like the // or {}. :) |
| 03:41 | mtj | hey kathryn, you should 'register' your nick, so no one else can pinch it |
| 03:42 | kathryn | weird noone has it huh? |
| 03:42 | and thanks mtj :) | |
| 03:42 | mtompset | And then remember how to identify yourself. ;) |
| 03:42 | eythian | http://www.oftc.net/Services/ <-- specifically |
| 03:42 | kathryn | you are all to kind |
| 03:42 | *too | |
| 03:42 | mtj | ...not many girls on the otfc network, perhaps? |
| 03:43 | wizzyrea | that seems... unlikely. |
| 03:43 | there are probably heaps. | |
| 03:43 | lots of different spellings for kathryn | |
| 03:43 | kathryn | a ha- ha- ha....mtj |
| 03:44 | wizzyrea | kat, katherine, kathy, katy, cathryn, catherine |
| 03:44 | and that's just the ones I can think of | |
| 03:44 | mtj | i should have said, not many kathryns on OTFC :o) |
| 03:44 | dcook | ^^ |
| 03:44 | mtj | but, yeah - good point liz |
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| 03:54 | mtompset | DOH! hit by a rebase problem. |
| 03:56 | mtj | woah nigeria! (just read the scrolback) |
| 03:57 | eythian | nigeria? |
| 03:57 | wahanui | nigeria is well ahead? |
| 04:00 | mtj | eythian: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Con2014_Proposals |
| 04:00 | eythian | oh ah |
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| 04:19 | mtompset | Hmmm... question... Does opac/opac-ISBDdetail.pl even use items at all? That loop looks no-op to me. |
| 04:20 | Oops... silly no semi-colon. | |
| 04:29 | ARG! Is OPACHiddenItems even implemented in MARCdetail or ISBDdetail? Did I mention I hate finding larger scope problems when testing. | |
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| 04:58 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
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| 05:10 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:11 | dcook | morning cait |
| 05:12 | cait | hi dcook |
| 05:17 | eythian | hello cait |
| 05:17 | wahanui | hello cait are you here? |
| 05:17 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 05:17 | how is being back? | |
| 05:18 | eythian | it's alright. I did prefer holiday though :) |
| 05:18 | cait | :) |
| 05:18 | * cait | checks if bgkriegel hs brought her queue over 70 again |
| 05:19 | cait | hm nope, not yet |
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| 06:00 | eythian | http://31.media.tumblr.com/8eb[…]1r6gwmko1_500.jpg |
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| 06:44 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:44 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.2°C (8:40 AM CEST on September 09, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:20 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 07:21 | rangi | hi christophe_c |
| 07:27 | christophe_c | hello rangi ;-) |
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| 08:19 | kf | Joubu: around? |
| 08:25 | Joubu | kf: yep! |
| 08:26 | kf | hi :) |
| 08:26 | thx for the patches | |
| 08:26 | I saw your follow up for checking wthdrawn - could you maybe add a check for the deprecated plugins later too? | |
| 08:26 | bug 10626 | |
| 08:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10626 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Remove doubled up TT plugins |
| 08:27 | kf | i already pushed it back once because there were new ones going in and now did a follow up myself - I think we might see some problems until the old patches are all in |
| 08:27 | just an idea and a nicely asked question :) | |
| 08:30 | i will try to get started on your 2 bugs tonight | |
| 08:39 | Joubu | kf: ok, I will do it |
| 08:40 | kf | Joubu: it's not in yet so probably it can wait - I just thought it could be useful. hope it's not too hard |
| 08:40 | Joubu | no, quite easy |
| 08:41 | kf | cool :) |
| 08:41 | Joubu | added to the cc list, I will provide the patch when it will be pushed. |
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| 09:31 | reiveune | hello |
| 09:35 | Viktor | Hi! |
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| 10:32 | kf | hi Viktor :) |
| 10:32 | hi reiveune | |
| 10:41 | Viktor | Hi kf! (sorry was on lunch) |
| 10:42 | We're live on Koha now since two hours and 42 minutes :) | |
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| 11:59 | vfernandes | hi guys |
| 11:59 | today I'm facing problems with koha 3.12 and callnumber and barcodes searches | |
| 11:59 | on an UNIMARC installation | |
| 12:01 | I'm trying to use yaz-client to see the zebra indexes but I'm getting error "[109] Database unavailable -- v2 addinfo ''" | |
| 12:01 | i'm using the command: yaz-client unix:/..../var/run/bibliosocket | |
| 12:02 | then "base biblios", "format xml" and "f @attr 1=1016 "prejudice"" | |
| 12:03 | why the error? I've tested in another server the same commands and it worked | |
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| 12:26 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:26 | tcohen | morning oleonard#koh |
| 12:26 | a | |
| 12:28 | nengard | morning |
| 12:28 | kf | hi all |
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| 13:05 | tcohen | perl gurus around: this doesn't seem to work "all { ref($_) eq 'CGI::Cookie' } @$cookies" |
| 13:06 | but if I loop on the cookies array and test ref eq CGI::Cookie it does work... | |
| 13:06 | kf | that'stoo high for me sorry |
| 13:09 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.213 pasted "please help #koha gurus" (45 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/207 |
| 13:14 | kf | tcohen++ for helping me write unit tests :) |
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| 13:20 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 13:21 | druthb | hi, mtompset! :) |
| 13:22 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb. |
| 13:23 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 13:23 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. |
| 13:26 | oleonard | Hey who wants to put a signoff on Bug 10309? Everyone? Awesome. |
| 13:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 13:29 | mtompset | druthb: Ready the skittles? |
| 13:30 | * druthb | gets some handy, in case someone earns a peltin'. |
| 13:31 | oleonard | Sassyness? That's a peltin'. |
| 13:31 | druthb | naah. |
| 13:31 | oleonard is too chirpy too early this morning, but he does that often enough for it to not be a crime. | |
| 13:33 | He does other nice things, too, which gives him a pass. | |
| 13:33 | mtompset, you get no such pass. Yet. | |
| 13:34 | mtompset | Okay, okay. Just making sure the standard is applied somehow. :P |
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| 14:09 | tcohen | gmcharlt: i've just attached unit tests for the problem you found with my patch for bug 9735 |
| 14:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Choose language using URL parameters in any page |
| 14:15 | kf | :) |
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| 14:16 | tcohen | FTR: always wrap the ListMore::Utils any/none/all commands inside parenthesis |
| 14:16 | (that was the problem with my code) | |
| 14:22 | nengard | hi all - i have a documentation question. Can someone tell me which notes fields show in the title notes tab in the opac? I want to put the list in the documentation for the NotesBlacklist preference |
| 14:28 | jcamins | nengard: all 5xx by default. |
| 14:28 | nengard | okey dokey |
| 14:28 | for some reason i thought that there were some that didn't show | |
| 14:28 | jcamins | Not that I've noticed. |
| 14:34 | bug 9093 | |
| 14:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9093 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , 008 forgetting what material type was chosen |
| 14:37 | vfernandes | in XSLT is possible to present the description of one authorised value instead of the code? |
| 14:38 | kf | vfernandes: currently it is not |
| 14:38 | vfernandes: the xslt processes the marcxmkl | |
| 14:38 | vfernandes | so it has to be hard coded |
| 14:38 | in xsl files | |
| 14:38 | kf | marcxml - and there you have the codes I think, depending on your use |
| 14:39 | it dependson the field i think | |
| 14:39 | we are using authorised values for subjects - but in that case koha puts in the description into the xml directly | |
| 14:39 | vfernandes | 7xx $4 author function code |
| 14:39 | kf | aah |
| 14:39 | yea, that's coded in the standard | |
| 14:43 | vfernandes | ok thanks |
| 15:06 | oleonard | CSS floats. Are they magic? Or haunted? |
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| 15:22 | mtompset | supernatural? CSS floats are super-natural, oleonard. It has to do with "cascading". ;) |
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| 15:23 | oleonard | Yes that explains everything. |
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| 15:59 | ryanlee | Hello all! |
| 15:59 | oleonard | Hi ryanlee |
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| 16:13 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:29 | mtompset | Is the ISBD view from the opac details screen intended to display holding information? |
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| 16:39 | druthb | hi, cait. :) |
| 16:48 | ryanlee | I've got a fun one for everyone today. We have some libraries in our system with Receipt printers. Currently, we have them using the OPAC in Portable Firefox with silent printing turned on and the Receipt Printer selected as the default printer. So when they print it just automatically prints to the receipt printer. The problem is Portable Firefox keeps updating and breaking anything. Is there a simpler solution to this that doesn't involve our librarians |
| 16:48 | selecting the receipt printer every time they want to print to it? | |
| 16:48 | cait | hi druthb |
| 16:48 | ryanlee | breaking everything* |
| 16:49 | cait | hm i think the best we can currently do is the thing with the firefox plugin and js |
| 16:49 | which i think you meant by silent printingß | |
| 16:49 | ? | |
| 16:49 | ryanlee | By silent printing I mean it doesn't prompt them to do anything, it just prints. |
| 16:50 | What is the Firefox plugin/JS solution you are referring to? | |
| 16:50 | jcamins | ryanlee: why don't you disable automatic updates? |
| 16:50 | cait | brb |
| 16:51 | jcamins | If the problem is just that every time FF updates it erases the settings, the easy solution is to disable updates, and do them once a year when you are at that particular library. |
| 16:51 | The librarians aren't using that version of FF for anything other than Koha, right? | |
| 16:51 | ryanlee | jcamins: That is the solution we currently have in place. Which is working (obviously), but while they are just suppose to use that version of Firefox for Koha, we have no guarantee of that. |
| 16:52 | But yes, that is where we are at now, and if that is the best solution we will stick with it. | |
| 16:52 | Just curious to see what others were doing. | |
| 16:53 | jcamins | Easy solution: configure FF to use a non-existent proxy server for everything other than nexpress. |
| 16:53 | ryanlee | jcamins: HA! |
| 16:53 | jcamins | There may be a better way to do it, but I can't think of an easier one. |
| 16:54 | ryanlee | jcamins: That is a very clever idea |
| 16:54 | cait | ryanlee: i think you are already using that solution - http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]to_print_silently |
| 16:55 | jcamins | Create new Portable Firefox installation that is preconfigured with all that, add autorun that replaces the existing, and mail the disk to all the libraries. Done. |
| 16:55 | Added benefit: you never need to visit any of the libraries. | |
| 16:55 | ryanlee | cait: I think this is different, we're looking over it now. |
| 16:56 | jcamins: Yeah, we currently have something set up like that, and it works, to an extent. Our biggest problem with Portable Firefox is they keep removing features we like. | |
| 16:56 | jcamins: But I guess we could just start complaining on their mailing list. | |
| 16:57 | oleonard | Like what ryanlee? I haven't used Portable Firefox in ages. |
| 16:57 | jcamins | ryanlee: right, that's why I'm suggesting you not upgrade. |
| 16:57 | If no site other than your catalog is accessible, it becomes less of an issue if it's out of date. | |
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| 16:59 | ryanlee | oleonard: Some changes with personas and private browsing. Font changes as well. I'm not the lead on this so this is just what I've heard. But I figured you guys might have some ideas. |
| 17:00 | jcamins: I may push for the non-existent proxy | |
| 17:00 | Or I may recommend trying Chrome/Chromium for the browser to use with the OPAC/Silent Printing | |
| 17:02 | Also try out this Firefox Plugin/JS | |
| 17:02 | jcamins | Does silent printing work for you with your receipt printers under Chrome? |
| 17:04 | ryanlee | One of the techs here has played with it, I think, I haven't personally. |
| 17:04 | But I think they used a plugin maybe? | |
| 17:06 | Someone looked at Kiosk mode in Chrome as an option, which apparently has silent printing options available | |
| 17:11 | Anyway, thanks for the feedback! I'll give some of this stuff a try! | |
| 17:52 | cait | nancyk++ |
| 17:58 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 17:59 | mtompset | bye, tcohen. |
| 18:58 | cait | oleonard++ :) |
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| 19:26 | cait | magnus_away: ping |
| 19:30 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
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| 20:21 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha |
| 20:25 | pianohacker | gmcharlt++ |
| 20:25 | Thanks for the cleanup on bug 10320, and pushing it | |
| 20:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search |
| 20:45 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:45 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.2°C (10:45 PM CEST on September 09, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:45 | cait | pianohacker: could you take a look at my notes on your patch for closing and opening dates? |
| 20:45 | I think some documentation would be good | |
| 20:47 | pianohacker | cait: documentation, yes. As far as testing goes, however, the extensions to Koha::Calendar, the interface used by fines.pl and circulation.pl, are extensively vetted in the unit tests |
| 20:47 | cait: What form of documentation, though? | |
| 20:48 | cait | pianohacker: a description of what the patch does and changes |
| 20:48 | pianohacker | cait: Just as a comment on the bug? I can draw that up |
| 20:48 | cait | like what will change when you enter closing and opening times? |
| 20:48 | and also for fine calculation - not sure the changes in overdues.pm were covered? I'd have to check again | |
| 20:52 | pianohacker | cait: Only changes to Overdues.pm were removing unused functions that used C4::Calendar |
| 20:52 | cait | pianohacker: i just get suspicious when a patch that big is so small on comments and documentation |
| 20:52 | and removing can be as dangerous as adding :) | |
| 20:54 | pianohacker | cait: fair enough. The removals were fairly-well vetted, just trying to expunge every usage of C4::Calendar |
| 20:54 | cait | being annoying wa smy promise when I ran for QAM ;) |
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| 21:43 | eythian | hi |
| 21:48 | jcamins | Here's a puzzler for you. |
| 21:48 | That's the general "you." | |
| 21:49 | FRBR is this post-modern technology-based standard, right? | |
| 21:50 | So where is the machine readable list of attributes? | |
| 21:53 | Answer: humans are sort of like sophisticated machines. | |
| 21:53 | Or, in the case of FRBR and RDA, *unsophisticated*. | |
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| 23:30 | tcohen | morning/evening #koha |
| 23:31 | dcook | hey ya tcohen |
| 23:31 | tcohen | how r u doin dcook? |
| 23:32 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 23:32 | dcook | Doin |
| 23:32 | How about you? | |
| 23:32 | tcohen | watching the us open finals |
| 23:32 | * tcohen | likes tennis |
| 23:37 | dcook | I like the idea of tennis :) |
| 23:37 | There are a few tennis courts by my house but I've never played | |
| 23:38 | tcohen | its a bit frustrating when you do your first step |
| 23:38 | s | |
| 23:39 | but is really fun to play | |
| 23:39 | wizzyrea | tennis is great fun. |
| 23:40 | tcohen | hi wizzyrea |
| 23:49 | dcook | Maybe one of these days I'll have to give it a whirl |
| 23:49 | I'm still working on getting back to the gym after sickness/injury | |
| 23:56 | tcohen | oh |
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