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00:29 | * peter | slaps clrh around a bit with a large fishbot |
00:42 | dcook | IE-- |
00:43 | jcamins | IE-- |
00:43 | dcook | ITpeoplewhorefusetoupgradefromIE7-- |
00:43 | @karma ITpeoplewhorefusetoupgradefromIE7 | |
00:43 | huginn` | dcook: Karma for "ITpeoplewhorefusetoupgradefromIE7" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
00:44 | dcook | ITpeoplewhorefusetoupgradefromIE7-- |
00:44 | Yeah, maybe one more | |
01:01 | mtompset | Greetings, dcook. You probably wanted Camel Case on that, because whorefuse can be parsed two ways that I can see. ;) |
01:01 | IE7 -- that would imply windows XP. | |
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01:07 | dcook | I probably should've used Camel Case, but I'm sure that people will understand the original intention. |
01:07 | Hey ya BobB | |
01:21 | * wizzyrea | is not a fan of the troutslapping |
01:24 | jcamins | rangi: I have a question for you about memcached. It seems to me it would make sense to cache searches in memcached for, say, 5m (space permitting) so that paging would be faster, and could be served by another member of the cluster. Am I missing something? |
01:25 | Not that I'm proposing to implement that. | |
01:25 | Just thinking. | |
01:26 | rangi | nope |
01:26 | however what i would do | |
01:26 | is cache the whole resulting page | |
01:26 | ie cache opac-search.pl | |
01:26 | with the searchsrting as part of the key | |
01:27 | first thing that script does is look in cache and just print whats there, or do all the stuff, stick in cache and print | |
01:27 | maybe instead, maybe as well as just caching the search | |
01:28 | jcamins | Hmm. Makes sense. |
01:37 | wizzyrea | whoever added opacnavright, I love you. |
01:40 | dcook | hehe |
01:40 | wizzyrea: Does it show on opac-main only or other pages as well? | |
01:41 | wizzyrea | opacmain only |
01:41 | but that's alright | |
01:41 | well with me anyway | |
01:41 | dcook | Yeah, other pages can get pretty crowded |
01:42 | Although it could make sense to have persistent local navigation... | |
01:42 | Well, I guess it would be global navigation potentially... | |
01:42 | * dcook | stops babbling and making no sense |
01:42 | wizzyrea | that's what opacnav is for ;) |
01:43 | or, you can put something in opacmain | |
01:43 | dcook | That doesn't show up at the result and detail pages though |
01:43 | wizzyrea | sorry I meant "opacheader" |
01:43 | dcook | Mmm |
01:43 | wizzyrea | which does. |
01:43 | example: catalog.nexpresslibrary.org | |
01:43 | wahanui | catalog.nexpresslibrary.org is all css too |
01:44 | dcook | Yeah, I'm looking at one of our libraries now that has all its global nav up in opacheader |
01:45 | I suppose some libraries have organizational headers that they're not allowed to tamper with though | |
01:46 | So the global nav for the whole organization goes at the top, but then they have to put all their library links on the opacnav | |
01:47 | We did make a mod that lets you keep the opacnav persistent...not sure if that's something others would necessarily find useful though | |
01:50 | wizzyrea | well you could put them in the footer too |
01:50 | I think nav-bottom does that now? | |
01:50 | keeps some bit of opacnav persistent? | |
01:50 | anyway there's a region for every purpose | |
01:51 | dcook | Hmm, I would think that would violate usability best practices |
01:51 | But it's not a bad idea for a few things like "Contact us" which is more common in the footer anyway... | |
01:51 | opaccredits | |
01:52 | Actually, no, you're right. That would be a good idea. | |
01:52 | With maybe a couple exceptions | |
01:52 | But those are mostly due to other mods of ours :p | |
01:52 | Well, not just our mods... | |
01:52 | I guess anything for ILL you would want higher up | |
01:52 | But opening hours, contact us, etc...that really is more of a footer thing than a navbar thing... | |
01:53 | wizzyrea | nav right is perfect for hours/contact |
01:53 | dcook | That wouldn't show up in search results or a detail page though, right? |
01:53 | wizzyrea | nope. but if you wanted to list it out, navright is probably the best place for that |
01:54 | dcook | Mmm, totes |
01:54 | wizzyrea | if you're linking, footer's fine |
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02:56 | rangi | @later tell magnuse ping me later on, i have a working converter thing to show you |
02:56 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
03:07 | mtompset | I was wondering if anyone could confirm my reading of the C4::Search code, in that the results_hashref may have different servers, but only "biblioserver" is locally available in the koha DB. Anyone? |
03:10 | (I'm coming at this from opac-search.pl, because the facets for hidden items [OPACHiddenItems] still are showing) | |
03:14 | wizzyrea | http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]arch-pm-didnt-you |
03:14 | mtompset | It's not so bad if you have the patience to crawl millimeters at a time. :P |
03:15 | gmcharlt | @later tell jcamins I'd appreciate it if you could take a look at the MARC::Charset release I just made now and let me know if any issues remain with its handling of Cyrillic |
03:15 | huginn` | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
03:16 | * gmcharlt | would pit MARC8 against C4::Search any day. I'm not entirely sure which would win the battle for funkiness |
03:18 | mtompset | actually... not crawl millimeters at a time. It's more like "step by step" (http://youtu.be/ay6GjmiJTPM). ;) |
03:23 | dcook | Bloody.. |
03:29 | Apparently the item editor doesn't like adding default values for hidden fields... | |
03:29 | I guess that makes a certain amount of sense.. | |
03:31 | wizzyrea | are you implementing a mad scheme? |
03:31 | dcook | Yep |
03:31 | wizzyrea | sounds like it |
03:31 | wahanui | i guess sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;) |
03:31 | wizzyrea | man I wish. |
03:32 | dcook | Alas, it's only Wednesday and 1:31 |
03:32 | Well, to be fair, it does make a certain amount of sense that the branch would never show up when in singleBranchMode | |
03:32 | After all...it can only possibly be that one branch...so why have the branch show up in all these other places? | |
03:33 | But I suppose there are times when "single" branches use other branches | |
03:33 | So it's one of this situations where you can't necessarily please everyone easily | |
03:33 | * dcook | shrugs |
03:33 | dcook | If you hide it with jQuery, it populates the item record just fine, me thinks |
03:34 | Yep. | |
03:35 | wizzyrea | you have to be a little careful with that |
03:36 | for what you are doing it might be fine. | |
03:36 | because you actually want the value in there. | |
03:37 | you know what ignore me. you'll be fine. | |
03:37 | dcook | lol |
03:37 | I appreciate advice/warnings :) | |
03:37 | In general, I'm wary of using jQuery for this type of scenario, but I'm trying to be careful. | |
03:38 | There's never a time they'd want to edit it, so it should be all right | |
05:12 | Huh...never noticed that there wasn't a database column for the non-public item-level notes... | |
05:22 | bug 4222 | |
05:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, P2, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client |
05:22 | dcook | Bleargh.. |
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05:28 | mtompset | Well, given that I've made baby step progress (did I mention reading C4::Search is not fun, but possible?) towards an idea to fix displayed facets and counts for OPACHiddenItems, I think I'll start working towards bed. |
05:28 | Have a great day, #koha dcook cait wizzyrea. | |
05:31 | dcook | Hey ya cait :) |
05:35 | cait | hi dcook |
05:37 | dcook | cait++ |
05:37 | cait | ? |
05:37 | dcook | I thought your comments on bug 4222 were really apt |
05:37 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, P2, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client |
05:37 | cait | apt? |
05:37 | dcook | Appropriate |
05:37 | wahanui | rumour has it Appropriate is to acquire through some means or tocopythemtomakethemmyownohpleasedontbemad |
05:38 | dcook | Maybe a better word would be... |
05:38 | I thought your comments were very insightful :) | |
05:42 | It's a surprisingly annoying bug :/ | |
05:53 | cait | ah yes it is |
05:53 | changing things like that afterwards gets pretty annoying | |
05:54 | like changing archectural things... better get it right the first time | |
05:54 | i think rangi might have been taking a look at it again some time ago - we could also start displaying the note from the xml subfield maybe | |
05:57 | dcook | Yeah, I was thinking of proposing a function that did that |
05:58 | I suppose one could retrieve the framework, check if it's mapped, and then retrieve the xml subfield for that subfield code if it's not mapped | |
05:58 | That might be the easiest | |
05:59 | It could even potentially lead to more expansion of the item record, although I think we're running out of numbers and letters for that anyway | |
06:01 | I guess you'd need to have a way of telling that sub what to look for though... | |
06:01 | And nothing not hardcoded springs to mind | |
06:12 | * magnuse | waves |
06:13 | pastebot | "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "MARC2RDF" (46 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/170 |
06:15 | rangi | just for you magnuse |
06:15 | its valid NTriples too | |
06:16 | magnuse | awesome!! |
06:16 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse |
06:16 | rangi | https://gitorious.org/koha-mar[…]t/Koha_MARC2RDF.t |
06:16 | passes all my tests :) | |
06:16 | magnuse | yay! |
06:16 | dcook | Whoa...that is cool! |
06:17 | rangi | magnuse: https://gitorious.org/koha-mar[…]raphic_marc21.txt |
06:17 | your mission is to make a normarc one | |
06:17 | :) | |
06:17 | magnuse | i know, i know... ;-) |
06:17 | rangi | :) |
06:17 | but for now, it should be as simple install that module | |
06:17 | make | |
06:17 | make install | |
06:18 | then in your koha | |
06:18 | (or just cp to /usr/share/koha/lib | |
06:18 | ) | |
06:18 | and then a script very similair to that .t one .. that just takes a biblionumber as a param, does getmarcbiblio | |
06:19 | and prints the rdf | |
06:19 | dcook | rangi++ |
06:19 | rangi | and we have an api to get any marc record out as rdf |
06:19 | magnuse | yup rangi++ |
06:19 | very, very cool | |
06:19 | creating a normarc mapping will mostly be removing things from the marc21 one i guess :-) | |
06:19 | rangi | yeah it shouldnt be too bad |
06:20 | i guess i should write some prototype of what you can do with the rdf now | |
06:20 | magnuse | the mapping looks less expressive than the marc2rdf one, but it's way better than nothing! |
06:20 | hehe, yeah! | |
06:20 | rangi | well we can extend the mapping |
06:21 | magnuse | yup |
06:21 | rangi | ie by reading the marc2rdf one and editing the .txt |
06:21 | should be all that is needed | |
06:22 | i guess now i have triples, and have the author | |
06:22 | i could link to viaf somehow | |
06:23 | cait | dcook: why hardcode? you have the subfield character and empty means xml - so it seems quite clear :) |
06:24 | dcook | How do you have the subfield character? |
06:25 | It's in the framework, but how do you point it to that subfield? | |
06:25 | I mean...it should probably always be "x" but do we know that for sure? | |
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06:29 | * magnuse | wanders off to breakfast with the rest of the gang |
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06:50 | alex_a | hello |
06:51 | rangi | magnuse: when you are back, now i have my triple, i guess i can do something like http://search.cpan.org/~tobyin[…]F/Query/Client.pm and https://github.com/MagnusEnger[…]tes/citedby.query |
06:53 | actually semantikoha, with a little bit of changes, ie so it doesnt fetch the triple from the store, but makes one .. would just work i think | |
06:53 | well thats this evening sorted, as soon as the kids are in bed, im doing that :) | |
06:57 | magnuse | hehe |
06:57 | the way i see it, just converting marc to rdf isn't all that interesting | |
06:58 | it gets interesting when you stick the rdf in a triplestore and start to enhance it, with things like links ti viaf, data from external sources, relations between records etc | |
06:58 | but of course, converting to rdf is the basis for all of that | |
07:00 | rangi | yep, but you can also fetch all that on the fly too |
07:00 | ie, i now have my triples, i can start enhancing it | |
07:01 | as a quick POC at leats | |
07:01 | magnuse | hm, not sure how you'll do that without a triplestore, but i am all ears ;-) |
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07:04 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
07:04 | magnuse | bonjour christophe_c |
07:04 | @wunder marseille | |
07:05 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 21.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
07:05 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
07:05 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 14, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
07:05 | rangi | well presumably you dont store the entire internet in your triple store right, you store triples, query to find them, query other triplestores to find connected information right? |
07:05 | christophe_c | bonjour magnuse ;-) |
07:05 | * rangi | may be on the totally wrong track |
07:06 | rangi | but we have our triples already, so dont need to query our triple store to find it |
07:06 | we just have to query others to find out more | |
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07:07 | rangi | im totally open to being told thats totally wrong, im still learning about this stuff :) |
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07:07 | rangi | but now i have to put the kids to bed, will be back later |
07:07 | magnuse | yeah, but you know, "crap in, crap out" marc converted to rdf still contains precious few interesting identifiers |
07:08 | so to be able to query other sources on the fly, you might want to say "this author is the the same as this author on viaf" and unless you want to hardcode that you need to store that info somewhere | |
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07:40 | rangi | hmm, and there is no way to do that programatically eh? you have to manually do it |
07:40 | magnuse | well, you can search for names, but that is error prone of course |
07:40 | rangi | mein gott marc has held libraries back so far |
07:40 | magnuse | it has!! |
07:41 | rangi | its almost unrecoverable |
07:41 | magnuse | yeah |
07:41 | we got a lot of catching up to do | |
07:41 | rangi | yep about 15 years |
07:42 | magnuse | the good thing is, once you connect your local author id/uri to a viaf uri, you can load the viaf data for that person, and then you have high quality identifiers/links to other interesting sources |
07:42 | rangi | *nod* |
07:42 | magnuse | hm, there is a norwegian project called "rådata nå" that took all the authors in bibsys and linked them to interesting stuff, let me see if i can dig up some links... |
07:43 | http://www.bibsys.no/files/out[…]autreg/index.html | |
07:43 | rangi | cool |
07:45 | well with a couple more lines, you could easily use this to convert your whole db, and stick it in a triplestore | |
07:46 | magnuse | yup |
07:46 | rangi | and then begin enriching it |
07:46 | magnuse | and we could update the triplestore whenever a record is updated, the same way we do it for zebra |
07:46 | rangi | which at the very least |
07:47 | would mean every koha could be a sparql endpoint | |
07:47 | magnuse | here's the final report of the radatana project: https://docs.google.com/docume[…]Lio/edit?hl=en_US i have not read it, but it should contain some interesting bits and pieces |
07:47 | rangi | i know that the waitaki library have a really good vertical file of info about Janet Frame |
07:48 | which could enrich other catalogues | |
07:48 | cool | |
07:48 | magnuse | yup, now we're talking ;-) |
07:48 | rangi | and yes, we could easily update the triplestore when we update zebra |
07:49 | magnuse | that would be awesome |
07:49 | rangi | you know what would be cool |
07:49 | when you go to a record | |
07:49 | magnuse | lots of things! :-) |
07:49 | rangi | you could say, search for author |
07:49 | and it gives you a list | |
07:50 | and you could say, this one | |
07:50 | and it updates the triple with that info | |
07:50 | magnuse | yup! |
07:50 | rangi | ie, every time a librarian views a record, if it hasnt got a link to an author in viaf, there is a little button to click |
07:50 | magnuse | yeah, that would be cool indeed |
07:52 | rangi | we could even do |
07:52 | sqarql.koha-community.org | |
07:52 | like the ratings site | |
07:52 | where you can push your enriched triples to | |
07:52 | magnuse | what would live there? |
07:52 | ah yes, that is an intersting idea | |
07:53 | aggregate all the enrichments | |
07:53 | rangi | *nod* |
07:53 | then you could search that by say isbn | |
07:53 | and get the enriched triples | |
07:53 | copy cataloguing, the modern way :) | |
07:54 | magnuse | yeah! |
07:54 | rangi | show that we can do away with marc |
07:54 | magnuse | it's really cool to think in that direction, so that we do not end up with every library doing the same work as every other library |
07:55 | rangi | yeah exactly |
07:55 | magnuse | and we could build the infrastructure right into koha |
07:55 | to make it dead simple to collaborate | |
07:55 | rangi | exactly |
07:55 | a 'push this' button | |
07:56 | magnuse | yup |
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08:10 | magnuse | @quote add <rangi> mein gott marc has held libraries back so far |
08:10 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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08:11 | magnuse | @quote add <rangi> mein gott marc has held libraries back so far |
08:11 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
08:11 | magnuse | gah |
08:11 | hiya cait and Viktor | |
08:12 | Viktor | Hi magnuse! |
08:13 | rangi | hi Viktor |
08:13 | Viktor | Hi rangi . And fait And all wonderful people of the Koha community :) |
08:14 | cait | |
08:14 | (dang autocorrect) | |
08:14 | cait | hi Viktor |
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08:15 | Viktor | Btw Is it a known error that the bar "Log into your account" is in the middle of the page in the CCSR theme on iPhone? |
08:15 | magnuse | moin drojf |
08:15 | Viktor | (I couldn't find it on Bugzilla but that might be me being lazy) |
08:15 | drojf | morging #koha |
08:15 | hei magnuse and Viktor | |
08:16 | Viktor | Hi drojf! |
08:31 | rangi | magnuse: what do you reckon for a store |
08:31 | magnuse | virtuoso is packaged for .deb |
08:31 | rangi | RDF::Trine::Store::something |
08:31 | ? | |
08:32 | hmmm yep | |
08:32 | magnuse | yeah, question is: build the triplestore into koha or use something else |
08:32 | i prefer the latter | |
08:32 | just make the sparql endpoint configurable | |
08:32 | rangi | yeah |
08:32 | that has merit | |
08:33 | magnuse | and use virtuoso that you run yourself or something hosted or... |
08:33 | rangi | makes sense |
08:33 | magnuse | and for vendors it might even make sense to have all their customers use the same triplestore |
08:33 | just with different graphs for different libraries | |
08:34 | that way the enrichments might be shared among libraries | |
08:34 | rangi | yeah true |
08:37 | oh thats not that hard at all | |
08:38 | magnuse | :-) |
08:39 | rangi | we just do a POST with INSERT { rdf goes here} |
08:39 | magnuse | yup |
08:39 | rangi | (well a bit more than that, but not much more) |
08:39 | sweet | |
08:39 | too reasy | |
08:46 | magnuse | you'll want to include a graph in there, which should be governed by a syspref - that way many libraries can share a triplestore |
08:47 | rangi | true |
09:00 | http://search.cpan.org/~gwilli[…]e/Store/SPARQL.pm | |
09:00 | perhaps? | |
09:02 | magnuse | possibly, i have not looked at that before |
09:02 | there's also http://search.cpan.org/~tobyin[…]F/Query/Client.pm | |
09:03 | but that says it's limited to SPARQL 1.0 | |
09:03 | rangi | yeah |
09:03 | magnuse | not sure if that is a showstopper, though |
09:03 | rangi | not sure you can do the insert with it either .. seesm to be more for getting? |
09:03 | magnuse | possibly |
09:04 | it can do POST though, and i don't think it should matter too much what the payload of the query it sends is | |
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09:04 | magnuse | but i might be wrong |
09:05 | rangi | true |
09:05 | ill have a crack with the Trine one, it seems to be a bit more loved | |
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09:07 | magnuse | yay |
09:16 | rangi | magnuse: https://gitorious.org/koha-mar[…]b0b57f7123783ac29 + https://gitorious.org/koha/mai[…]6cde538247a1d6652 |
09:16 | in theory .. that should work | |
09:17 | and its now 9.15pm | |
09:17 | that'll do for now :) | |
09:17 | magnuse | :-) |
09:20 | rangi++ bigtime! | |
09:37 | rangi | ill drag libraries kicking and screaming at least to where the world was in 2005, or go insane trying :) |
09:48 | magnuse | rangi++ |
09:51 | @quote add <rangi> mein gott marc has held libraries back so far | |
09:52 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
10:18 | magnuse | lunchtime! |
10:18 | wahanui | rumour has it lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting |
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11:32 | nengard | @later tell oleonard ping me when you get a chance, need some help with your ebook code, strangeness his happening :) thanks! |
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12:08 | jcamins | magnuse: if your MARC uses authorized headings you can get links by querying viaf. |
12:10 | magnuse | jcamins: ah, cool |
12:12 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
12:13 | magnuse | jcamins: that is if you have headings that are imported from LOC or something? |
12:16 | jcamins | magnuse: that's what I mean. If the cataloger has actually authorized the headings against LOC (or anything else supported by viaf). |
12:18 | magnuse | nice |
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12:38 | tcohen | morning #koha |
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13:13 | oleonard | We don't have much choice but to start accommodating RDA records since all our preferred Z39.50 sources are using them |
13:14 | It's like the neighbor we're stealing cable from dropped HBO. | |
13:18 | druthb | mornin'! :) |
13:18 | tcohen | heh |
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15:24 | * Mirko Tietgen: Bug 10595: don't display OpacTopissue page when system preference is turned off | |
15:24 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10597: fix Search to hold button on record details page | |
15:24 | * Galen Charlton: bug 10559: remove spurious "statement handle still active" warnings | |
15:24 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10553: make public lists available on OPAC login page | |
15:24 | * David Cook: Bug 10457: fix SQL error when using 'export select items data' in serials claims page | |
15:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10595 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , OpacTopissue page still accessible when system preference is turned off |
15:24 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 2774 - Path to theme is hard-coded in many places |
15:24 | * David Cook: Bug 9801: display facet labels in search results only when there are facet values | |
15:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10597 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Search to hold button broken on record details |
15:24 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 7598: make strings in acquisitions JavaScript translatable |
15:24 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 7598: [Follow-up] make strings in acquisitions JavaScript translatable | |
15:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10559 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , noisy statement handle still active warnings when generating notices |
15:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10553 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Public lists not available from OPAC login page | |
15:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10457 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Export selected items data doesn't work when using checkall checkbox | |
15:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places | |
15:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9801 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , location facet shows even if no locations | |
15:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7598 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Acquisitions JavaScript contains untranslatable English strings | |
15:29 | * oleonard | hopes Bug 9456 passes this time so we can finally remove the old tablesorter plugin! |
15:29 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add callnumber column to the cart |
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16:12 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
16:13 | So close! Corrected results count for hidden items, but the facets are still listed. | |
16:23 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Where did the list.gif and cart.gif images go?" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/171 |
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16:26 | druthb | hi, mtompset! :) |
16:26 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb. |
16:27 | oleonard | mtompset: They're part of the sprite image now |
16:29 | mtompset | I have a screenshot that says otherwise. |
16:29 | Unless there is something wrong with my configuration? | |
16:33 | oleonard | Out of date non-standard or non-en language templates? |
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16:39 | * cait | waves |
16:40 | oleonard | Hi cait. Are you traveling? |
16:40 | cait | taking a break at the hotel - more to see here later :) |
16:41 | * druthb | waves to cait, then runs over and hugs her. |
16:41 | * cait | tries to breathe |
16:41 | * druthb | giggles |
16:45 | gmcharlt | druthb: please don't suffocate the QAM |
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16:47 | * druthb | wouldn't do that! |
16:47 | gmcharlt | ;) |
16:47 | druthb | Don't mess with the refugee from the data mines. She has a slingshot and Skittles. |
16:48 | * gmcharlt | has a pile of MARC8 test cases in reserve as ammunition... jes' sayin ;) |
16:48 | * oleonard | hopes you can't catch data-lung from working in data mines |
16:48 | gmcharlt | @quote add oleonard hopes you can't catch data-lung from working in data mines |
16:49 | huginn` | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #270 added. |
16:49 | * druthb | hacks up a really nasty MARC8 record. "Yeah, unfortunately, you can, oleonard." |
16:49 | druthb | If you work in the nice tame areas, you're usually okay, but Dynix Classic…that's the punishment detail. |
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16:51 | druthb | Anyone who has to work with a cataloger who still *likes* Dynix Classic should have an automatic pass for an OSHA claim. |
16:57 | mtompset | Hmm... oleonard, I'll reset my master and see if I get the same problem. |
16:57 | I'm using the default english. | |
16:58 | Hmm... I have a color.css which I have had since 3.8.6 | |
17:00 | That is where the gif files are referenced. | |
17:02 | cait | gmcharlt: thx for saving me ;) |
17:03 | gmcharlt | :) |
17:06 | mtompset | Woo hoo! results count and facet display corrected in OPAC... Now hopefully I did it an acceptable way. ;) |
17:10 | jcamins | mtompset: and you take into account pagination? |
17:11 | mtompset | I filter data before it hits the pagination portion. |
17:11 | So, I would assume that means yes. | |
17:13 | jcamins | So you always display exactly 20 (or whatever) results? |
17:13 | mtompset | I haven't fully tested, but I would assume yes. |
17:13 | (except for the last page of course) | |
17:14 | jcamins | Hm. I'll be curious to see how you did that. |
17:14 | mtompset | but now that you have me thinking about paging... I have to make sure I haven't messed up paging. |
17:16 | Oh shoot... premature rejoicing... :( | |
17:16 | Still progress, nonetheless. | |
17:17 | Ahh.... stupid hardcoded 1:1 assumption. | |
17:17 | Need to fix that. | |
17:17 | My facets were right, my counts were right. | |
17:17 | but the filtered data was "No Titled" in the dataset. | |
17:27 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5262: make authority plugin copy indicators to bib record <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a01c4a0796ae150ae> |
17:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #38 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
17:30 | Starting build #1359 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) | |
18:03 | Project master_maria build #38: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/38/ | |
18:03 | Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 5262: make authority plugin copy indicators to bib record | |
18:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5262 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Master , authority plugin doesn't copy indicators |
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18:09 | drojf | evening #koha |
18:09 | tomas_ | hi drojf |
18:09 | drojf | hi tomas_ |
18:10 | tcohen | :-D |
18:10 | drojf | i hit tab three times after typing "tc" until i realized your nick was different ;) |
18:10 | tcohen | same here |
18:12 | drojf | ha, now i remember what i thought about the package commands. now that we have DOM/GRS1 options, the only thing missing is ICU i guess |
18:13 | tcohen | and memcached |
18:13 | wahanui | memcached is running, but I dunno it Koha uses it. |
18:13 | tcohen | and fixing koha-foreach |
18:13 | heh | |
18:13 | jcamins | What's wrong with koha-foreach? |
18:14 | tcohen | there are new switches for koha-list |
18:14 | jcamins | Ah. |
18:14 | tcohen | they should be available for koha-foreach |
18:15 | i'm trying to remember what was said about how to manage memcached in the packages... | |
18:15 | ... aand I can't | |
18:16 | jcamins | tcohen: what was said is that we should take advantage of the fact that caching could be configured in koha-conf rather than the Apache config with the current Koha::Cache implementation. |
18:18 | tcohen | on my setup we are using koha-conf.xml actually |
18:19 | jcamins | tcohen: yes, and that should be part of Koha generally. |
18:19 | tcohen | my question was more like if we should do it globally or per-instance |
18:20 | I guess one should be able to choose a different memcached server for each instance | |
18:20 | and fallback to localhost if no extra parameter passed | |
18:20 | smth like $ koha-create --create-db --use-memcache test | |
18:21 | (with optional --memcached-servers --memcached-namespace switches | |
18:21 | ) | |
18:24 | what do u think jcamins? | |
18:25 | jcamins | I think that makes sense to me. |
18:25 | With a default namespace of koha_{instance} | |
18:27 | gmcharlt | yep |
18:27 | * gmcharlt | tosses out bug 10732 as a discussion item |
18:27 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10732 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , use a stricter SQL_MODE |
18:34 | * druthb | listens to the crickets chirping |
18:35 | druthb | gmcharlt, I don't think anyone is gonna take the bait. |
18:35 | oleonard | Just toss in whatever wrench breaks everything and wait for everyone else to pick up the pieces. |
18:36 | * druthb | meanders off for some training. |
18:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1359: SUCCESS in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1359/ |
18:42 | Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 5262: make authority plugin copy indicators to bib record | |
18:42 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5262 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Master , authority plugin doesn't copy indicators |
18:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #81 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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19:23 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #81: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/81/ |
19:23 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 7143 - Updating history and about page | |
19:23 | * Galen Charlton: bug 7143: add latest batch of committers | |
19:23 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10197: Add classes to patron info list | |
19:23 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
19:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10197 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , Add CSS classes to patron info list in patron account | |
19:29 | oleonard | wizzyrea++ # for updating the Bootstrap OPAC demo: http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/ |
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19:56 | tcohen | bug 10733 |
19:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Memcached on package installs |
19:57 | tcohen | bye #koha |
20:22 | druthb | gmcharlt++ #Snappy facebook comeback. |
20:35 | oleonard | Bye all |
20:44 | * mtompset | curses pagination. |
20:46 | gmcharlt | mtompset: I dunno, considering how awkward scrolls are, I think the invention of the page was a very good thing |
20:46 | ;) | |
20:47 | mtompset | Yes, but it is playing havoc on generating a patch to properly fix facets and record counts and display them correctly. |
20:47 | It seems weird to me the way the results_hashref is generated though. | |
20:47 | It's like, grab the results, and then only filled in from x-y slots. | |
20:48 | and then display only x-y slots. | |
20:48 | why not just generate 20 slots or less and display everything? | |
20:48 | (well $results_per_page slots) | |
20:54 | I'm going to rest my brain now, since I did make progress in getting code that properly filters it out in memory, but making it all nicely organized and displayed is the problem now. | |
20:55 | Have a great day, #koha etc. | |
21:01 | pianohacker | hahahaha, he's thinking Search.pm is supposed to make sense |
21:01 | rookie mistake | |
21:03 | wizzyrea | <3 |
21:04 | @quote add pianohacker: hahaha, he's thinking Search.pm is supposed to make sense. Rookie mistake. | |
21:04 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
21:04 | wizzyrea | curses. |
21:05 | @quote add pianohacker: hahaha, he's thinking Search.pm is supposed to make sense. Rookie mistake. | |
21:05 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #271 added. |
21:05 | wizzyrea | victory! |
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21:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #39 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
21:27 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10483: fix item uniqueness check on order form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4c90980e7dc8be338> |
21:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1360 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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21:48 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8712: add 'and' label for inputs in OPAC "fewer options" advanced search page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e7cd88378a06e8684> / Bug 8712: change "New list" to "Create new list" in OPAC masthead <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]25a61bd41f206de57> |
22:01 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #39: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/39/ |
22:01 | Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10483: fix item uniqueness check on order form | |
22:01 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10483 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , check_uniqueness.pl does not work |
22:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #40 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
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22:08 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9487: Allow item fields to be used in the HOLDPLACED notice <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]368b287f91baaedf4> / Bug 10405: add IDs for customizable OPAC regions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3f44fcb511f3b53bc> |
22:32 | * tcohen | didn't want to spam the patches list |
22:35 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #40: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/40/ |
22:35 | * Srikanth Dhondi: Bug 8712: change "New list" to "Create new list" in OPAC masthead | |
22:35 | * Srikanth Dhondi: Bug 8712: add 'and' label for inputs in OPAC "fewer options" advanced search page | |
22:35 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10405: add IDs for customizable OPAC regions | |
22:35 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srikanth, ASSIGNED , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug |
22:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10405 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , User-editable sections should have ids | |
22:35 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #41 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
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22:44 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1360: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1360/ |
22:44 | Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10483: fix item uniqueness check on order form | |
22:44 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10483 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , check_uniqueness.pl does not work |
22:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1361 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1359 5 hr 15 min ago) |
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22:50 | tcohen | building packages? |
22:50 | wahanui | building packages is really easy. |
22:50 | tcohen | wahanui: building packages is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way |
22:50 | wahanui | ...but building packages is really easy.... |
22:51 | wizzyrea | building packages is also http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way |
22:51 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
22:51 | wizzyrea | building packages? |
22:51 | wahanui | i think building packages is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way |
22:51 | tcohen | "also", thanks wizzyrea |
22:52 | wizzyrea | also only if you want to add something to an existing entry |
22:52 | wizzyrea? | |
22:52 | wahanui | you are a Cylon, and they all have plans. |
22:52 | cjh | cjh? |
22:52 | wahanui | hmmm... cjh is applying to the current 3.8.x branch |
22:52 | wizzyrea | wizzyrea is also silly |
22:52 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
22:52 | wizzyrea | wizzyrea? |
22:52 | wahanui | i guess wizzyrea is a fan of selecting hunks for committing. |
22:52 | cjh | hahhhaha keep dreaming wahanui |
22:52 | wizzyrea | wizzyrea? |
22:52 | wahanui | rumour has it wizzyrea is a fan of selecting hunks for committing |
22:52 | wizzyrea | it's true. |
22:52 | cjh | wizzyrea? |
22:52 | wahanui | I saw it on Digg! |
22:52 | rumour has it wizzyrea is a fan of selecting hunks for committing | |
22:52 | cjh | heh |
22:53 | tcohen | tcohen? |
22:53 | wahanui | you are 122 |
22:53 | cjh | :o |
22:56 | tcohen | wahanui: tcohen is also obsessed with packages' scripts |
22:56 | wahanui | okay, tcohen. |
22:56 | tcohen | tcohen? |
22:56 | wahanui | i heard tcohen was 122 |
22:56 | tcohen | tcohen? |
22:56 | wahanui | you are 122 |
22:56 | tcohen | hmm |
22:57 | tcohen? | |
22:57 | wahanui | rumour has it tcohen is 122 |
22:57 | tcohen | i'll let wizzyrea feed wahanui |
22:57 | wizzyrea | forget tcohen |
22:57 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot tcohen |
22:58 | wizzyrea | tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts |
22:58 | tcohen? | |
22:58 | wahanui | tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts |
22:58 | tcohen | i am also 122 |
22:58 | wahanui | okay, tcohen. |
22:59 | tcohen | bye wahanui |
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23:09 | tcohen | i have an item, due 25/03/2008 23:59 |
23:09 | which 3.12 says it is "Available" | |
23:09 | booo | |
23:09 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #41: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/41/ |
23:09 | Kyle M Hall: Bug 9487: Allow item fields to be used in the HOLDPLACED notice | |
23:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9487 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow items fields to be used in the HOLDPLACED notice |
23:10 | wizzyrea | migrated data?> |
23:10 | and did < 3.12 show it properly? | |
23:10 | tcohen | ṕsibbly |
23:10 | noissuingbranch | |
23:11 | s/no/no / | |
23:11 | wizzyrea | I forget what the field is, but there's one in the item record that has to be set with the due date |
23:11 | for that to display properly | |
23:11 | items.issuedate or something | |
23:12 | in addition to actually having an issue. | |
23:12 | items.onloan | |
23:12 | wahanui | items.onloan is probably NULL |
23:13 | wizzyrea | ^ |
23:13 | tcohen | onloan |
23:17 | onloan should be a date, right? | |
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23:18 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM it" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/172 |
23:19 | tcohen | migration issues it seems |
23:20 | thanks wizzyrea | |
23:20 | wizzyrea | np :) |
23:20 | not many of them anyway | |
23:21 | tcohen | do we have a script to check that? |
23:21 | wizzyrea | if we do it would be in the migration toolkit |
23:21 | migration toolkit? | |
23:21 | wahanui | hmmm... migration toolkit is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
23:24 | wizzyrea | https://www.gitorious.org/koha[…]ased_on_issues.pl |
23:27 | tcohen | sweeet |
23:27 | thanks wizzyrea | |
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23:30 | wizzyrea | what is the actual use case of the borrower files feature? |
23:30 | every one I think of you could do without it. | |
23:31 | (rather every cool use of it could be just as easily and less expensively accomplished in a different way) | |
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23:57 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1361: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1361/ |
23:57 | * Srikanth Dhondi: Bug 8712: change "New list" to "Create new list" in OPAC masthead | |
23:57 | * Srikanth Dhondi: Bug 8712: add 'and' label for inputs in OPAC "fewer options" advanced search page | |
23:57 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10405: add IDs for customizable OPAC regions | |
23:57 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9487: Allow item fields to be used in the HOLDPLACED notice | |
23:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srikanth, ASSIGNED , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug |
23:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10405 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , User-editable sections should have ids | |
23:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9487 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow items fields to be used in the HOLDPLACED notice | |
23:58 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1362 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1359 6 hr 28 min ago) |
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