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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:36 | tcohen | night #koha |
| 06:42 | rangi | this ask idea site is interesting, but who do they propose is going to do the answering? |
| 06:43 | magnuse | rangi: you ;-) |
| 06:43 | rangi | heh, unlikely :) |
| 06:44 | i dont have time to monitor yet another thing :) | |
| 06:44 | * magnuse | suspected as much :-) |
| 06:44 | rangi | i suspect it will end up a wasteland of unanswered questions |
| 06:44 | or a bunch of wrongly answered questions | |
| 06:45 | like | |
| 06:45 | sudo rebuild_zebra.pl | |
| 06:45 | :) | |
| 06:46 | but i might be wrong, they should try it and see, but not with a .koha-community.org until it was proved useful | |
| 06:46 | magnuse | good idea |
| 06:46 | gmcharlt | if it a builds an FAQ, great |
| 06:47 | if it splits the discuss or results in folks say "no, dummy, ask your question _here_", not so much | |
| 06:50 | rangi: I'd disagree with you on one point -- if the experiment gets made (and I think it should be explicitly done, if it all, only as an experiment), it ought to be on a koha-community.org subdomain | |
| 06:51 | first, to encourage people to think of k-c.org as the place to go or jump off from for help | |
| 06:52 | second, based on the experience with the libraries stackexchange, that hosting it elsewhere is all but guaranteed to ensure that it will be a wasteland | |
| 07:01 | rangi | im more of the, i dont want a pile of bad answers to be associated with koha-community.org |
| 07:02 | because i think its 90% chance of being bad and non existant answers | |
| 07:02 | if i thought it might work, id want it associated | |
| 07:06 | gmcharlt | that almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, though |
| 07:07 | mind you, I'm not volunteering to set one up | |
| 07:08 | rangi | yep |
| 07:09 | gmcharlt | I'm not sure that there's any basis to this other than a gut feeling, but I feel like stackexchange-like sites just about need a bigger pool of folks willing to answer quesitions to be useful than a mailing list does |
| 07:09 | rangi | exactly |
| 07:09 | much bigger | |
| 07:10 | without people spending a lot of time rating answers too | |
| 07:10 | you end up with a lot of searchable bad advice | |
| 07:10 | the only reason stackexchange is useful | |
| 07:11 | is because bad answers get rated down | |
| 07:11 | gmcharlt | and the occassional good-but-non-consensus answer, no doubt |
| 07:11 | rangi | ye |
| 07:11 | p | |
| 07:13 | gmcharlt | on the other hand, other than making things more bulletproof (which, of course, would be a Good Thing), there's got to be a better way to deal with the perennial questions other than variations on RTFM |
| 07:13 | rangi | yep |
| 07:13 | gmcharlt | which tends to be a common failure mode of a lot of experienced folks on the mailing lists |
| 07:14 | the other common one being simply not responding to those at all | |
| 07:14 | rangi | i feel like 90% of the questions |
| 07:15 | should be directed to http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxh[…]epermissions.html | |
| 07:15 | seriously | |
| 07:16 | if you dont understand file permissions and/or cron .. don't run a server | |
| 07:16 | helping them is actually not helping them | |
| 07:16 | unless you are willing to spend a couple of weeks teaching them the basics of a posix system | |
| 07:17 | gmcharlt | but I enjoy that! also, I love that the walls in my room are so cushiony! |
| 07:17 | rangi | becaus otherwsie be it 1 week, 1 month, or 1 year from now, they will either be pwnd, have a disk die, or trashed their system in some other way |
| 07:18 | its a problem i dont have a good solution to | |
| 07:19 | LUGs seem to have disappeared | |
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| 07:23 | gmcharlt | the irony of all this is that Koha has never been easier to install |
| 07:23 | heh | |
| 07:23 | maybe that's the problem | |
| 07:23 | :) | |
| 07:24 | anyway, time to wander off to bed | |
| 07:32 | rangi | i think thats part of it, the koha barrier is really low, which means inexperienced users are trying it :) |
| 07:32 | sleep well | |
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| 09:42 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 10:45 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 10:45 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 28.0°C (12:40 PM CEST on August 03, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:24 | jcamins | What should I make for breakfast that involves lychee? |
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| 12:25 | cait | hm |
| 12:25 | that's a hard one | |
| 12:25 | why not just eat them fresh together with some toast? | |
| 12:25 | jcamins | No bread for toast. |
| 12:25 | Oh, and one additional requirement: | |
| 12:26 | I don't want to have to have the oven on for more than a half hour. | |
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| 15:05 | jcamins | cait: I made lychee crumble. |
| 15:05 | I highly recommend it. | |
| 15:13 | cait | :) |
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| 18:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #170 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:30 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:30 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 24.7°C (8:30 PM CEST on August 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:30 | cait | @wunder Reutlingen |
| 18:30 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 27.0°C (8:30 PM CEST on August 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:36 | druthb | @wunder 77063 |
| 18:36 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 35.3°C (1:35 PM CDT on August 03, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:37 | cait | ! |
| 18:40 | druthb | yep. pretty toasty out here. |
| 18:47 | cait | @quote random |
| 18:47 | huginn` | cait: Quote #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo decided to write an ils just for fun, then forced HLT to use it" (added by gmcharlt at 06:23 PM, September 16, 2009) |
| 18:47 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 18:47 | druthb | drojf! |
| 18:48 | drojf | druthb! :) |
| 18:48 | #koha! | |
| 18:52 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 18:53 | cait | drojf! |
| 18:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #170: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/170/ |
| 18:54 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10510 - OPAC's renew selected link has glitchy icon | |
| 18:54 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10029 - CAS authentication fails in OPAC reserve | |
| 18:54 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10428: undefined check in add additem.pl | |
| 18:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10510 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , OPAC's renew selected link has glitchy icon |
| 18:54 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10346 - "Add multiple copies" should be labelled "Add multiple items" |
| 18:54 | * Marc Veron: Bug 5894: Display all titles when confirming copy of items from cart to list | |
| 18:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10029 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , CAS authentication fails in OPAC reserve |
| 18:54 | drojf | cait! |
| 18:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10428 trivial, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , undefined check in add additem.pl |
| 18:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10346 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , "Add multiple copies" should be labelled "Add multiple items" | |
| 18:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5894 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Adding multiple items from a cart to a list shows only the first title | |
| 19:00 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 19:07 | cait | @wunder Reutlingen |
| 19:07 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 26.6°C (9:07 PM CEST on August 03, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:09 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 19:09 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
| 19:12 | bgkriegel | hi all |
| 19:13 | cait: after 9902, we need 10088? | |
| 19:25 | cait | bgkriegel: hm i had looked at rangi's last comment |
| 19:25 | and assumed we didn't | |
| 19:25 | but maybe i was wrong | |
| 19:26 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 19:27 | bgkriegel | I think that if we put 9902 then the problem from 10088 arises |
| 19:27 | cait | that might be |
| 19:27 | hm | |
| 19:27 | i will test if 10088 applies | |
| 19:27 | bgkriegel | it applies |
| 19:28 | cait | hm |
| 19:28 | it fixes staged ordering? | |
| 19:29 | bgkriegel | i'm trying to test it |
| 19:30 | cait | me too |
| 19:33 | bug 10088 | |
| 19:33 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10088 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, software error when filling a basket with staged record |
| 19:33 | cait | bgkriegel: seems ok to me |
| 19:33 | with the patch applied | |
| 19:34 | m acqcreateitem was not set for creating items | |
| 19:36 | bgkriegel: yes, we need 10088 - i can reproduce the perl error | |
| 19:37 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 19:43 | bgkriegel | cait++ |
| 19:43 | ok, move on | |
| 20:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #171 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:14 | cait | hm someon around who could test somethin in master for me? |
| 20:15 | i have the problem that for my items the homebranch/holdingbranch/branch information does no longer show in the opac detail page | |
| 20:16 | bgkriegel | Location? |
| 20:16 | wahanui | i guess Location is /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml |
| 20:18 | cait | bgkriegel: the location column is always empty in my database |
| 20:18 | it's rather puzzling, the marc view shows the branches nicely | |
| 20:19 | bgkriegel | strange, I can see it http://snag.gy/q8v2R.jpg |
| 20:20 | cait | i wonder if one of the various related prefs is doing it |
| 20:21 | i have the separate tab display activated | |
| 20:21 | bgkriegel | well, just trying to change one of them... and got an error |
| 20:21 | that one | |
| 20:21 | wahanui | i guess that one is down more often than up |
| 20:22 | cait | oh? |
| 20:23 | what's the error? | |
| 20:24 | bgkriegel | a template error when saving OpacSeparateHoldings |
| 20:24 | OpacSeparateHoldingsBranch | |
| 20:25 | changing to separate/don't separete | |
| 20:25 | cait | ah |
| 20:25 | hm maybe that was the syspref editor? can you paste? | |
| 20:25 | bgkriegel | yes |
| 20:26 | paste? | |
| 20:26 | wahanui | i think paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 20:26 | bgkriegel | http://paste.koha-community.org/155 |
| 20:28 | cait | bgkriegel: the logs don't show anything suspicious - but my branches are stll not showing up :( |
| 20:28 | bgkriegel: i think what you have is a bug in the syspref eidtor maybe | |
| 20:28 | it looks familiar | |
| 20:29 | bgkriegel | you can change that syspref? |
| 20:29 | cait | ye |
| 20:29 | ss | |
| 20:29 | but no change on the detail page | |
| 20:30 | it shouldn't make a difference... but are you using xslt? | |
| 20:30 | bgkriegel | yes |
| 20:32 | cait | hmm i have an idea |
| 20:32 | singlebranchmode was activated | |
| 20:32 | phew | |
| 20:32 | thx bgkriegel for testing | |
| 20:33 | bgkriegel | no problem :) |
| 20:33 | cait | got ma panicking a bit :) |
| 20:34 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 20:55 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #171: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/171/ |
| 20:55 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9113: fix handling of certain characters by item batch modification tool | |
| 20:55 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9533: batch item modification form now shows default field values only by request | |
| 20:55 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9902 - item subfields not populating | |
| 20:55 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10088: FIX adding an order from a staged file. | |
| 20:55 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10384: fall back to normal authentication if LDAP server is not available | |
| 20:55 | * Sonia LEMAIRE: Bug 9519: fix code for Italian language search limiter | |
| 20:55 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9519: DBRev 3.10.09.001 | |
| 20:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9113 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , batch modification removes + |
| 20:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9533 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , batch item modification should ignore defaults | |
| 20:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9902 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , item subfields not populating | |
| 20:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10088 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, software error when filling a basket with staged record | |
| 20:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10384 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error when LDAP connexion fails | |
| 20:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9519 trivial, P5 - low, ---, sonia.lemaire, Pushed to Stable , Wrong language code for Italian in the advanced search language limitations | |
| 21:03 | cait | hm.... |
| 21:03 | * cait | wonders if we could get some more opinions on 9811 |
| 21:03 | cait | bug 9811 |
| 21:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Patrons search improvements |
| 21:03 | * cait | leaves that for the logs and the curious :) |
| 21:03 | bgkriegel | hehe |
| 21:03 | night cait | |
| 21:20 | bye | |
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