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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:17 | BobB | good morning all |
| 00:18 | has anyone ever made ccode (952$8) repeatable? | |
| 00:18 | a client wants to do that but I'm not sure what consequences there might be | |
| 00:19 | dcook | Morning, BobB |
| 00:19 | Hmm | |
| 00:19 | BobB | Hi David |
| 00:19 | dcook | I've never done that, and I imagine it wouldn't work |
| 00:19 | I imagine just the first 952$8 would be copied into the DB | |
| 00:19 | BobB | Could mess up statistics, at least |
| 00:20 | dcook | Hmm |
| 00:20 | BobB | yes. So the second could overwrite it, perhaps? |
| 00:21 | dcook | I doubt it. I'd have to look at the import scripts, but I imagine only the first would be put into the items table. |
| 00:21 | All others would probably just be dropped on import. | |
| 00:21 | But that's just a theory. I haven't looked at importing in a couple months. | |
| 00:21 | wizzyrea | might be stored in the marcxml? |
| 00:21 | what problem are they trying to solve? | |
| 00:21 | dcook | wizzyrea: Initially, but the marcxml 952s are built up from the items table once they're in the system |
| 00:21 | BobB | There are no repeatable fields in Items. I think its best to keep it that way. |
| 00:21 | rangi | i wish people understood mailing lists |
| 00:22 | BobB | :) |
| 00:22 | dcook | BobB: Probably. But yeah, like Liz said, what's the problem? |
| 00:22 | wizzyrea | oops |
| 00:22 | dcook | rangi: Oh? |
| 00:22 | rangi | you'll see it |
| 00:22 | BobB | Personally I don't know why you'd want it in two collections. I would move it from one to the other and back again when needed. |
| 00:22 | wizzyrea | someone told a website to email everyone in their google account |
| 00:23 | dcook | Oh my... |
| 00:23 | * dcook | takes a look |
| 00:23 | wizzyrea | what's their use case? |
| 00:23 | BobB | oh |
| 00:23 | dcook | Hmm, must not have made it to the digest yet |
| 00:23 | wizzyrea | no, it won't be in the digest yet. |
| 00:23 | * dcook | is wishing he hadn't left his wedding rings on the kitchen counter. |
| 00:24 | dcook | My fingers feel naked now... |
| 00:24 | BobB | Better get home before your wife! :) |
| 00:24 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:24 | I'm going out tonight! Eeep! | |
| 00:24 | I did all the chores last night though (including hers), so maybe she'll forgive me ;) | |
| 00:24 | BobB | dash home at lunchtime? |
| 00:25 | dcook | Infeasible but not impossible... |
| 00:25 | BobB | 10 brownie points earned and 15 given up, I reckon |
| 00:26 | dcook | Perhaps. |
| 00:27 | rangi | corollary to the people don't understand mailings, online petitions do nothing |
| 00:27 | dcook | rangi: Define nothing |
| 00:27 | rangi | its the equivalent to saying 'I don't actually care about this, but want to look like i do' |
| 00:27 | jcamins | dcook: "annoy everyone" |
| 00:28 | wizzyrea | oh there's a funny phrase about that |
| 00:28 | dcook | I suppose it depends on the petition |
| 00:28 | wizzyrea | slacktivism. |
| 00:28 | dcook | Admittedly, most annoy me :p |
| 00:28 | But I think sometimes it can help people psychologically to at least "feel" like they're not the only one who thinks about a topic | |
| 00:29 | While they might not accomplish their set out goal, I think they do help contribute to a sense of solidarity (in some cases), and that's something. | |
| 00:29 | That said, I have a specific case in mind, so that might be an edge case. | |
| 01:10 | IE-- | |
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| 01:23 | dcook | o/ khall |
| 01:32 | Apparently, the ajax for uploading local images doesn't work so hot in IE9... | |
| 01:32 | Although it worked in IE8 | |
| 01:32 | IE-- | |
| 01:32 | jcamins | dcook: weird. |
| 01:32 | dcook | To be fair to Microsoft, I think they might've fixed whatever wasn't working in IE8 |
| 01:33 | So workarounds for IE8 don't work anymore with IE9 | |
| 01:33 | But that's just a hypothesis | |
| 01:33 | jcamins | Sounds reasonable. |
| 01:35 | wizzyrea | "doesn't work so hot" means "doesn't work?" |
| 01:36 | or "partially doesn't work" | |
| 01:36 | dcook | Throws a javascript error and utterly fails |
| 01:36 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I read "causes the web browser to crash." |
| 01:36 | dcook | I suppose I like to understate things :p |
| 01:36 | wizzyrea | neat! |
| 01:36 | dcook | Yeah! |
| 01:37 | jcamins | dcook: look up... xhmlhttprequest ie 9. |
| 01:38 | Or just replace it with jQuery. | |
| 01:39 | dcook | I'm thinking that might be an idea |
| 01:39 | As jQuery tends to do its own checking of browsers and versions, me thinks | |
| 01:39 | * dcook | doublechecks master on this one |
| 01:41 | dcook | Oh my... |
| 01:41 | Wait, that might still be our script.. | |
| 01:43 | Looks like a jQuery plugin | |
| 01:44 | Maybe one we wrote though.. | |
| 01:44 | :S | |
| 02:14 | Huzzah...think I figured it out | |
| 02:14 | Not elegant but doable | |
| 02:26 | Interesting... | |
| 02:26 | wahanui | somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 02:26 | dcook | I take it "ajaxfileupload.js" is used for marc imports as well |
| 02:27 | jcamins | Probably. |
| 02:27 | dcook | I think that was its original purpose |
| 02:27 | * dcook | enjoys git blame :) |
| 02:29 | dcook | Although it doesn't help explain why the ActiveXObject is having its src property set in the JS.. |
| 02:29 | That's not what I meant but blah | |
| 02:30 | jcamins | dcook: huh? |
| 02:30 | dcook | Sorry, babbling :p |
| 02:30 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ajaxfileupload" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/139 |
| 02:30 | dcook | I added in that try/catch so that it'll work in IE9 |
| 02:31 | Not sure what the io.src is doing though.. | |
| 02:31 | jcamins | dcook: that's just wrong. |
| 02:31 | That'll fail in IE7 too. | |
| 02:31 | dcook | It seems to work in both |
| 02:31 | Emulated IE7 at least | |
| 02:31 | * dcook | checks that again |
| 02:32 | dcook | Yep, works in emulated IE7 |
| 02:32 | And IE9 | |
| 02:33 | jcamins | I was just reading about how to create iframes in IE7, actually, and they use a special call. |
| 02:33 | Sorry, to clarify, the *try* will fail in IE7. | |
| 02:33 | The catch will work. | |
| 02:33 | dcook | If that's the case though, the upload wouldn't work |
| 02:34 | jcamins | Hmm. |
| 02:34 | dcook | Hmm, or maybe I'm full of crap |
| 02:35 | Well, not full | |
| 02:35 | The upload will work with the catch, but it also opens up a new tab that displays... | |
| 02:35 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ie7 new tab" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/140 |
| 02:36 | wizzyrea | ...you want to support IE7 in the staff client? |
| 02:36 | SEVEN?! | |
| 02:36 | jcamins | wizzyrea: no, I'm just objecting that it's crappy code. |
| 02:36 | dcook | wizzyrea: I don't "want" to :p |
| 02:36 | And actually | |
| 02:36 | The current code woorks in IE7 | |
| 02:36 | It doesn't in IE9 | |
| 02:36 | wizzyrea | well yes, it's crappy and needs to be fixed |
| 02:37 | dcook | So far, the try/catch is the only reliable-ish idea I have for making this work |
| 02:37 | jcamins | I can't figure out why it works in IE7, because createElement([html]) is supposed to only work in IE8 according to the documentation I was reading the other day. |
| 02:38 | It was an extension to the DOM standard that they introduced and then realized immediately was a terribly bad idea, I think. | |
| 02:38 | dcook | Hmm |
| 02:38 | The funny thing is that createElement('iframe') seems to work in emulated IE8 | |
| 02:39 | I'm going to go check this out on an actual IE8 install | |
| 02:39 | jcamins | dcook: yeah, createElement('iframe') should work properly since that's actually correct. |
| 02:40 | dcook | I wonder then why gmcharlt added the ActiveXObject check and createElement([html]) bit at all then |
| 02:40 | What's the special call that IE7 is supposed to use according to that documentation, jcamins? | |
| 02:40 | jcamins | dcook: same createElement. |
| 02:40 | It's the ActiveX that is different. | |
| 02:42 | dcook | I'm not sure I follow |
| 02:42 | createElement([html]) certainly works in actual IE8 | |
| 02:42 | jcamins | Interesting. |
| 02:42 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 02:42 | dcook | But fails miserably in IE9 |
| 02:43 | Which would use the proper createElement('iframe') | |
| 02:44 | jcamins | I guess the documentation was wrong. |
| 02:44 | dcook | Or the emulated version isn't right |
| 02:44 | jcamins | Nah, probably incorrect documentation. |
| 02:45 | dcook | In that case, what do you think of the try/catch solution? |
| 02:45 | jcamins | I would prefer that you change the if() to a try. |
| 02:45 | dcook | Which if? |
| 02:45 | jcamins | if(window.ActiveXObject) |
| 02:46 | dcook | Why's that? |
| 02:46 | jcamins | Because IE detection doesn't work. |
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| 02:46 | jcamins | IE9 doesn't removed that weird behavior. |
| 02:46 | It should be in the else. | |
| 02:47 | dcook | ? |
| 02:47 | jcamins | I mean, IE9 should be executing the code in the else. |
| 02:47 | dcook | Agreed |
| 02:47 | Oh...I think I follow | |
| 02:47 | jcamins | Like this... |
| 02:47 | dcook | Remove the try/catch I have |
| 02:47 | And put it higher up? | |
| 02:49 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "dcook: like so" (30 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/141 |
| 02:49 | dcook | Mmm, that's what I was thinking you meant |
| 02:49 | jcamins | Though obviously you'll need to confirm IE9 doesn't require any of that weird io.src stuff. |
| 02:49 | dcook | Yeah, that was my next step (besides eliminating code duplication) |
| 02:54 | Hmm, looking all right. | |
| 02:54 | I suppose I'll get a call if it doesn't work | |
| 02:54 | jcamins++ | |
| 03:13 | @karma jcamins | |
| 03:13 | huginn` | dcook: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 625 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 623. |
| 03:13 | dcook | Only 41 to go... |
| 03:13 | Well, 43, I guess | |
| 03:15 | jcamins | 43 patches left to rebase? |
| 03:15 | Nothing! You started with how many? | |
| 03:16 | dcook | I meant your karma :p |
| 03:16 | As for patches...I don't want to talk about it :p | |
| 03:17 | jcamins | @karma |
| 03:17 | huginn` | jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (861), "oleonard" (738), and "jcamins" (623). Lowest karma: "<!" (-115), "failed" (-103), and "ie" (-103). You (jcamins) are ranked 3 out of 2577. |
| 03:17 | dcook | Actually, it's not too bad |
| 03:17 | jcamins | What happens in 43? |
| 03:17 | Oh, right. | |
| 03:17 | dcook | Probably nothing, but it was something to say. |
| 03:17 | wizzyrea | @karma |
| 03:17 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Highest karma: "rangi" (861), "oleonard" (738), and "jcamins" (623). Lowest karma: "<!" (-115), "failed" (-103), and "ie" (-103). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 6 out of 2577. |
| 03:18 | dcook | ie-- |
| 03:18 | jcamins | Took me a while, because I was looking at the 625. |
| 03:18 | dcook | I'm sure ie can make it to lowest... |
| 03:18 | jcamins | ie-- |
| 03:18 | wizzyrea | ie-- |
| 03:18 | lol | |
| 03:19 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:22 | jcamins | Closer. |
| 03:24 | dcook | Little by little |
| 03:26 | All right, I think I need food in me | |
| 03:26 | bbiab | |
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| 04:16 | quoc | Hi everyone |
| 04:16 | wizzyrea | hallo |
| 04:17 | quoc | yes, i just wanna ask some one |
| 04:17 | about bug 9541 multi-opac feature | |
| 04:17 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9541 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Opac-user doesn't load correct CSS for multiple branches |
| 04:19 | quoc | yes, i was pushed to new version Koha, but how does it work? How can i get multiple Opac for each branch library? |
| 04:19 | it was pushed to new version Koha, but how does it work? How can i get multiple Opac for each branch library? | |
| 04:26 | Okie, thanks! | |
| 05:05 | dcook | papa++ |
| 05:05 | You're a machine, Srdjan ;) | |
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| 05:34 | papa | heh |
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| 05:38 | dcook | I changed that ampersand entity back to the & |
| 05:38 | Thanks for the tip, papa :) | |
| 05:39 | papa | no worries |
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| 05:40 | dcook | hey ya cait :) |
| 05:43 | cait | good morning dcook |
| 05:44 | well... good time of your day | |
| 05:45 | dcook | Afternoon :) |
| 05:45 | But it's sunny so it feels a bit like morning? | |
| 05:45 | cait | :) |
| 05:53 | dcook | Hey cait, quick question for you.. |
| 05:53 | cait | hm? :) |
| 05:54 | dcook | I did a Git Blame for the MARC21 intranet detail xslt and it looks like you did a lot of the code for the 773 stuff |
| 05:54 | Like "Show analytics", "Show volumes", and something about Sets | |
| 05:54 | Do you know why the link for "Show volumes" would be "/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=ti,phr:"? | |
| 05:57 | Oh wait, it looks like rangi put that bit in | |
| 06:14 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! :-) |
| 06:17 | dcook | hey ya magnuse |
| 06:17 | * dcook | tried to remember some Norwegian but failed miserably in his mind |
| 06:18 | dcook | Not guten morgen, but close? |
| 06:19 | magnuse | sort of |
| 06:19 | "god morgen" would do it :-) | |
| 06:19 | yeah, guess that is pretty close, when i look at it | |
| 06:20 | dcook | I guess I'll just have to say good morning more often ;) |
| 06:20 | Or god morgen rather :p | |
| 06:20 | cait | guten morgen is german :) |
| 06:20 | dcook: i think ti,phr shoudl be the fallback | |
| 06:21 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 06:21 | cait | looking for the title of the serial/host in 245 from the analytic |
| 06:21 | when you are not using UseControlNumber or using Easyanalytics (because those don't work together) | |
| 06:22 | dcook | cait: I knew that it was German, but I didn't want to be offensive if it was possible that i might be offensive |
| 06:22 | * dcook | might be Canadian... |
| 06:23 | cait | ? |
| 06:23 | dcook | Canadian = trying not to offend anyone :p |
| 06:23 | cait | most of all you are confusing to me this morning :) |
| 06:23 | Canadian or not :) | |
| 06:23 | dcook | Fair enough :p |
| 06:23 | I'm confused as well about the fallback | |
| 06:23 | It seems to me that a record for a journal should have a LEADER position 19 of "a" for set | |
| 06:24 | But that would mean the link for "Show volumes" would be the title of that journal record | |
| 06:24 | So it would just show itself :S | |
| 06:25 | cait | hm no |
| 06:25 | analytics are different than sets | |
| 06:26 | sets are really separate items | |
| 06:26 | analytics are within something | |
| 06:26 | at least for me :) | |
| 06:26 | i think the a is not used for serials | |
| 06:26 | it would break our display if you changed that :( | |
| 06:28 | dcook | Indeed it would :/ |
| 06:28 | I imagine that you are correct | |
| 06:28 | I find the online info to be quite...terse | |
| 06:29 | Actually, I'm not sure that is right.. | |
| 06:29 | * magnuse | has found that cait is quite often correct ;-) |
| 06:29 | cait | lol |
| 06:29 | not so much recently i am afraid | |
| 06:29 | dcook | When I look at some RDA examples, they have LDR 19 set to "a" for things like short story collections |
| 06:29 | cait | dcook: interesting, but not sure it's rigt still... and if our union catalog records don't do that... you'd still be breaking our workflow |
| 06:29 | dcook | This is on the rdatoolkit website :p |
| 06:30 | cait | i can try and ask my coworker bout it |
| 06:30 | we use set for multi volume works | |
| 06:30 | because in germany we have a parent record for those | |
| 06:30 | dcook | I think that's also correct |
| 06:30 | cait | and a separate record for each volume |
| 06:30 | dcook | http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/bdleader.html |
| 06:30 | cait | but we don't do it for other records afaik |
| 06:30 | dcook | It can be "a" for the "set" record then "b" or "c" for the "part" record |
| 06:30 | cait | a - Set Record is for a set consisting of multiple items. |
| 06:31 | i think items here means 'physical' items | |
| 06:31 | at least i think that meaning was intended | |
| 06:31 | dcook | That's certainly how I would interpret it |
| 06:31 | Although I'm not sure that's the case :S | |
| 06:32 | If you look at older websites, position 19 used to be..."Linked Record Requirement" I think | |
| 06:32 | If it had a "r", it meant there was a linking 7xx field | |
| 06:32 | But it was redefined in 2007 | |
| 06:32 | cait | i think the set things were added on request of DNB |
| 06:32 | but not sure | |
| 06:32 | we got all those hierarchies in our data here | |
| 06:32 | dcook | I think I saw a dnb wiki.. |
| 06:33 | Regardless of right or wrong, I"m curious about your workflow | |
| 06:33 | So you have a parent record, which would show "Show volumes" | |
| 06:33 | cait | just what i told you - sets are for mulit volume stuff mostly |
| 06:33 | yep | |
| 06:33 | and then you click on it | |
| 06:33 | and you get the records for the volumes | |
| 06:33 | dcook | So the other volumes have the same title or 001? |
| 06:33 | cait | and we lnk it all together using $w subfields and 001 |
| 06:33 | the title is a fallback | |
| 06:34 | dcook | Ok, regardless of the title then |
| 06:34 | cait | for the libraries using the union catalog we are using 001 |
| 06:34 | and $w | |
| 06:34 | i build the fallbacks mainly for other libraries | |
| 06:34 | dcook | Hmm |
| 06:35 | So does...773$w map to...the "rcn" index? | |
| 06:35 | And then "not+(bib-level:a+or+bib-level:b)" filters out the parent record? | |
| 06:35 | Sorry, I just confused myself, lol | |
| 06:36 | Yeah...that must be how it works | |
| 06:37 | Yep..."Record-control-number" 773$w | |
| 06:38 | And "bib-level" contains the LDR 7 position.. | |
| 06:38 | Crafty, cait! I like it! | |
| 06:38 | I think that fallback should use "q=Host-item:" like analytics though | |
| 06:39 | Thanks for explaining though :) | |
| 06:42 | cait | :) |
| 06:42 | maybe | |
| 06:42 | i don't often see that happen, so it might have been missed | |
| 06:42 | and it's not me | |
| 06:42 | just trying to make koha work with the data i have and it's far from perfect | |
| 06:43 | dcook | I think your workflow should work pretty well :) |
| 06:43 | I think the fallback might have issues, but I think the onus to alter that is on the person using the fallback | |
| 06:43 | As for LDR 19...who knows? | |
| 06:44 | cait | stopped raining - i better run looking at the rain prediction |
| 06:44 | dcook | Jcamins probably but I hope he's asleep by now |
| 06:44 | cait | bbiab |
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| 06:44 | dcook | cya |
| 06:45 | @later tell cait I think I found proof that you're right about LDR 19! http://access.rdatoolkit.org/d[…]nt.php?id=jscmap1 | |
| 06:45 | huginn` | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:46 | dcook | If only the rdatoolkit were publicly accessible in its entirety.. |
| 06:57 | Actually, that rdatoolkit link isn't half bad... | |
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| 06:57 | dcook | It maps the RDA (aka AACR3) rules to MARC21 fields |
| 06:57 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 06:57 | dcook | Might be useful for those who aren't that familiar with RDA/AACR2 cataloguing |
| 06:57 | salut gaetan_B :) | |
| 06:58 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:58 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 21.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:58 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 06:58 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 21.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:58 | magnuse | hah! |
| 06:58 | :-) | |
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| 07:07 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 07:07 | huginn` | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (5:00 PM EST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:07 | * dcook | looks outside |
| 07:07 | dcook | Maybe that's true |
| 07:07 | I'm rather warm in my winter jacket at the moment indoors :p | |
| 07:14 | night #koha | |
| 07:14 | * dcook | strolls out rather happy to get the definitive word on position 19 of the MARC21 leader :p |
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| 07:25 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:27 | magnuse | guten morgen kf |
| 07:27 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 07:27 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.7°C (9:25 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:27 | kf | rain |
| 07:27 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:27 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 21.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:27 | kf | fits my mood |
| 07:27 | magnuse | no rain here yet |
| 07:27 | but plenty to come | |
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| 07:30 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 07:30 | kf | hi christophe_c |
| 07:30 | @wunder Marseille | |
| 07:30 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 21.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:31 | magnuse | same temp in marseille and here! |
| 07:32 | christophe_c | bonjour kf ;-) |
| 07:40 | kf | drojf++ |
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| 08:02 | magnuse | what's this testopia thing i keep seeing in connection with bugzilla? |
| 08:04 | kf | some new plugin rangi and gmcharlt wanted to try |
| 08:04 | not sure what it does yet | |
| 08:05 | magnuse | cool |
| 08:05 | "Testopia is a full featured test case management extension for Bugzilla." does not make me much wiser, i'm afraid... | |
| 08:06 | guess they will tell us all about when they have figured out how to use it, then ;-) | |
| 08:07 | * kf | translates |
| 08:08 | * magnuse | too |
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| 08:24 | magnuse | bonjour kenza |
| 08:25 | kenza | bonjour ! :) |
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| 08:34 | kf | hi kenza :) |
| 08:34 | and kenza++ for your unit test patches :) | |
| 08:35 | magnuse | yeah kenza++ |
| 08:35 | kenza | thank you ! |
| 08:35 | wizzyrea | yay kenza :) |
| 08:35 | * kf | ponders "Ethnic bowed strings" |
| 08:35 | magnuse | huh? |
| 08:36 | kf | yeah |
| 08:37 | wizzyrea | sounds like a drama :P |
| 08:38 | kf | translation drama ;) |
| 08:38 | * magnuse | wonders why they need pondering |
| 08:38 | kf | guitar family |
| 08:38 | magnuse | vihuela? |
| 08:39 | kf | lute family |
| 08:39 | magnuse | guitars are not normally bowed, though? |
| 08:39 | kf | heh |
| 08:39 | i think those don't go together | |
| 08:39 | unimarc plugins are now translatable | |
| 08:39 | i think it stems from there | |
| 08:39 | magnuse | ah |
| 08:40 | is reminded of a bug, let's see | |
| 08:41 | bug 7939 | |
| 08:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects |
| 08:41 | kf | true |
| 08:43 | Viola d'amore | |
| 08:43 | wizzyrea | viola of love? |
| 08:44 | kf | nice eh? :) |
| 08:44 | wizzyrea | oui, c'est bot |
| 08:44 | bon* | |
| 08:44 | * wizzyrea | giggles, c'est bot. |
| 08:44 | kf | :) |
| 08:44 | * wizzyrea | remembers thismuch french. |
| 08:45 | wizzyrea | which is not a lot |
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| 08:47 | kf | more than me :) |
| 08:48 | hi drojf | |
| 08:50 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 08:50 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.3°C (10:50 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:52 | kf | drojf: you are almost too late for the translation fun |
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| 09:45 | yipso | How to convert USMARC to MARC21? |
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| 09:53 | bigbrovar | Hi guys am running koha 3.12.00.000 on debian squeeze. however I can't seem get isbn match using the stage marc for import tool. |
| 09:54 | doing that would always result in 0 match found even if I upload from a mrc file which has been previously uploaded | |
| 10:02 | eythian | hi |
| 10:12 | kf | bigbrovar: is your data indexed? zebrasrv running? can you search in teh opac for your previously imported records? |
| 10:23 | bigbrovar | kf: yes I did index the data and I can search the records. |
| 10:25 | kf | did you check your matching rule is correct and was applied staging the records? |
| 10:33 | bigbrovar | kf: yes I did.. I double checked. I am about to try again .. I most be doing something wrong. Just have to figure out what |
| 10:37 | kf | bigbrovar: looking at our 3.12 and matching on 001/Control-number that works alright |
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| 11:05 | bigbrovar | kf: I was indeed doing something wrong. Figured it our now. |
| 11:06 | eythian | now you have to tell us what it was. |
| 11:07 | bigbrovar | The other issue I am having now is Item Type seems to be missing amount holding information even though 952$y was set |
| 11:09 | eythian: I forgot to run an index immediately I imported the biblio records.. before importing the bibblio items | |
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| 11:09 | eythian | that'll do it. |
| 11:11 | bigbrovar | eythian: any idea what I need to do to make the holding information in opac display item type? I have already set 952$y to bk which corresponds to the item type for books |
| 11:11 | eythian | I actually thought it did that by default. |
| 11:12 | maybe there's a syspref for it, I'm not sure. | |
| 11:12 | wizzyrea | does it show up in the staff client |
| 11:12 | ? | |
| 11:18 | bigbrovar | wizzyrea: It doesn't |
| 11:19 | wizzyrea | and otherwise you see items on your records? |
| 11:19 | bigbrovar | wizzyrea: yes I do see items |
| 11:20 | wizzyrea | do you have the authorised values set up, or did you install the default ones for itype? |
| 11:21 | I mean the item types in Adminsitration, they're not authorised values | |
| 11:24 | my thinking being that if your imported code and the code in item types don't match, it won't know what to show. | |
| 11:24 | that might include case, I'm not sure. | |
| 11:24 | anyway, I'm going to bed :P | |
| 11:26 | bigbrovar | wizzyrea: thanks |
| 11:27 | I did not know I had to setup itemtype authorized values | |
| 11:28 | eythian | bigbrovar: you need to set up item types |
| 11:28 | <wizzyrea> I mean the item types in Adminsitration, they're not authorised values | |
| 11:32 | bigbrovar | eythian: I have item types (i.e Home --> Admin --> Item type ) setup |
| 11:33 | the default code for book item type is bk | |
| 11:33 | eythian | that's what wizzyrea was referring to |
| 11:34 | bigbrovar | oh so I have to set up a different athorized value for item types? |
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| 11:47 | kf | bigbrovar: no, not an authorised value |
| 11:47 | it's in administration - itemtypes | |
| 11:47 | and the case has to match | |
| 11:47 | else it won't work | |
| 11:47 | BK and bk are different things to Koha | |
| 11:48 | bigbrovar | kf: got all that checked |
| 11:48 | kf | hm can you describe the problem again? |
| 11:49 | bigbrovar | so item type information is missing from holding information in both staff and opac client |
| 11:51 | kf: here is a screenshot http://imgur.com/7Raxc1z | |
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| 12:02 | kf | coudl you copy an example 952 into paste? |
| 12:02 | paste? | |
| 12:02 | wahanui | I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 12:03 | kf | bigbrovar: i think you have a mismatch between the code in your administration and in the 952 |
| 12:03 | * magnuse | wanders off |
| 12:04 | bigbrovar | ok.. I will copy it from my marc ... |
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| 12:07 | bigbrovar | kf: http://paste.koha-community.org/142 |
| 12:08 | kf | you have a space before the BK |
| 12:08 | that woudl totally do it | |
| 12:08 | bigbrovar | hmmm but how could that be? and how can I corrent that from marc records |
| 12:08 | kf | i don't know how you generated the records |
| 12:08 | bigbrovar | most have been from when generating from marcedit |
| 12:08 | kf | if you can't reimport |
| 12:09 | you can change it in your items table with sql and do a complete reindex | |
| 12:09 | i assumeyou are using a newer version of koha | |
| 12:09 | bigbrovar | yes 3.13 |
| 12:09 | 3.12* | |
| 12:09 | kf | then it shoudl beok |
| 12:10 | how many items is it? | |
| 12:10 | bigbrovar | kf: anyway, thanks I will have a look now that I see the problem |
| 12:10 | kf | you could also use the batch item edit tool |
| 12:10 | bigbrovar | kf: not much (for now) less than 800.. and yes I would use batch item edit |
| 12:10 | kf | yes, that will be easiest then |
| 12:10 | and it will reindex autimatically:) | |
| 12:11 | bigbrovar | just wondering how marcedit got it wrong.. must have been when I had to join all the holding tags during my delimited text mapping |
| 12:12 | kf | maybe |
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| 12:14 | ebegin | hello everyone ! |
| 12:14 | a quick question about git... it seems simple, but there is something I don't understand | |
| 12:16 | I just did a git clone --mirror git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git in a local dir called koha-community | |
| 12:16 | jcamins | Why --mirror? What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 12:17 | ebegin | A bare repository that will update |
| 12:17 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 12:19 | ebegin | when i do a git log, the last entry I get from that clone is from April 26th. |
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| 12:19 | jcamins | Even though you just cloned it? |
| 12:19 | ebegin | yep, I did it few minutes ago |
| 12:20 | jcamins | Very odd. I can't explain it. |
| 12:20 | ebegin | Weird, isn't it |
| 12:20 | And looking at http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb, the last entry seams to be 3 days ago | |
| 12:20 | jcamins | And you did look at the log of master or another branch that is updated regularly, right? |
| 12:21 | ebegin | it's a bare repo, so there is no branches |
| 12:21 | afaik | |
| 12:21 | jcamins | No, there are lots of branches, just none checked out. |
| 12:22 | The entire point of --mirror is to have all the branches that the remote has, no? | |
| 12:22 | ebegin | ok, you are right, I do have branch, but none checked out. |
| 12:23 | git log master gave me the same thing than git log | |
| 12:23 | jcamins | Okay. Then I definitely have no idea. |
| 12:23 | ebegin | ... and the same for git log HEAD |
| 12:23 | jcamins | It just occurred to me that maybe it had defaulted to a merge branch or something. |
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| 12:25 | ebegin | I'll try a regular clone to see if I have the same behavior |
| 12:25 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:26 | ebegin | Hey oleonard ! |
| 12:26 | eythian | People should be aware that libwebcats seems to store passwords in cleartext, and email them back to you when you ask for a password reminder. |
| 12:26 | jcamins | eythian: !!! |
| 12:27 | eythian | test it, but it just emailed me a password I quite plausibly used. |
| 12:27 | jcamins | Oh, I'm sure you're right. |
| 12:27 | I generally just e-mail requests that records be changed. | |
| 12:28 | eythian | I wanted to use the advanced search thing that requires a login. |
| 12:28 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 12:29 | kf | eythian: i canconfirm that |
| 12:29 | my reaction was probably similar to yours | |
| 12:29 | * drojf | checks the password to find he used a disposable one he would have never remembered |
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| 12:29 | kf | Hi Dyrcona |
| 12:30 | eythian | yeah, mine turned out to be one of those "I don't think I trust this site" passwords, fortunately. |
| 12:30 | Dyrcona | hello |
| 12:30 | wahanui | hello, Dyrcona |
| 12:33 | eythian | It is certainly not good that that site stores passwords like that though. |
| 12:34 | kf | nope it is not |
| 12:34 | you can write to the site owner | |
| 12:36 | eythian | I probably should |
| 12:40 | there was no email announcement for 3.10.8? | |
| 12:40 | kf | @seen khall |
| 12:40 | huginn` | kf: khall was last seen in #koha 5 days, 20 hours, 20 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <khall> is this as good a place to start as any? |
| 12:40 | kf | hmm |
| 12:40 | oleonard | khall must be on vacation |
| 12:41 | eythian | nor a tag for it |
| 12:41 | khall | I was, but now I'm not |
| 12:41 | oleonard | :D |
| 12:41 | My condolences khall! | |
| 12:41 | eythian | I guess we're going to have to jump a version then. |
| 12:41 | khall | : ) |
| 12:41 | kf | eythian: maybe try writing bgkriegel an email ? |
| 12:41 | hm | |
| 12:41 | and hi khall | |
| 12:41 | see pm :) | |
| 12:42 | khall | I was in the Pennsylvania Wilds, so being back has it's pros ( such as air conditioning and indoor plumbing ). |
| 12:42 | eythian | kf: not really time. no matter, it's not the end of the world. |
| 12:53 | ebegin | jcamins, i just tried to do a regular clone and my last log still on april 26th... even weirder |
| 12:54 | hi all ! | |
| 12:59 | anybody did a new clone of koha repo lately ? | |
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| 13:07 | oleonard | Good Monday to you druthb |
| 13:08 | druthb | :D Hi, oleonard! :D |
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| 13:44 | kf | hi druthb :) |
| 13:44 | hi oleonard :) | |
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| 13:59 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 13:59 | huginn` | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 17.9°C (8:59 AM CDT on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:59 | rambutan | Rain |
| 13:59 | Light Rain, but Rain | |
| 13:59 | @seen coffee | |
| 13:59 | huginn` | rambutan: I have not seen coffee. |
| 14:00 | coffee | whoisi |
| 14:00 | druthb | @wunder 77063 |
| 14:00 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 29.9°C (8:58 AM CDT on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:00 | coffee | I wonder what it would be like if it rained coffee? |
| 14:01 | Collect it in a rain barrel? | |
| 14:02 | oleonard | Mmm... scalding rain. |
| 14:05 | kf | cold or hot coffee? |
| 14:06 | coffee | Koha would be a good name for a brand of coffee. Koha Coffee. Kona Koha Coffee. Koha Kona Coffee. |
| 14:07 | kf: there is only hot hot coffee, though I confess at a derelict point in my life I was given to the habit of drinking iced coffee in Seoul. | |
| 14:07 | kf | coffee: ok, then i vote against raining coffee |
| 14:08 | hot coffee rain might even top the hail in my home town yesterday | |
| 14:08 | coffee | OK, let it rain cold coffee and we can put big heaters underneath the rain barrels |
| 14:10 | don' | |
| 14:10 | oops | |
| 14:10 | don't need google to translate that picture | |
| 14:10 | kf | not sure which you saw - but lots of damage :( |
| 14:11 | coffee | broken out car window |
| 14:11 | kf | yeah, lots of windows, solar panels on roofes etc. |
| 14:14 | hm someon know a way to print a hold slip in koha? | |
| 14:14 | meaning a list of holds a patron has for the patron to take? | |
| 14:15 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:15 | huginn` | gmcharlt: Quote #213: "jwagner: There are few problems that can't be solved with patience, ingenuity, and a large kick in the pants (assuming servers wear pants, that is)." (added by wizzyrea at 06:18 PM, August 07, 2012) |
| 14:15 | kf | good morning gmcharlt |
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| 14:31 | kf | @quote random |
| 14:31 | huginn` | kf: Quote #252: "<@jcamins> Really the issues is that Anglo-American libraries have settled on a profoundly stupid format that utterly fails to express anything that patrons care about, while going on at great length about things patrons don't care about." (added by chris at 10:42 PM, May 26, 2013) |
| 14:31 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn`. |
| 14:33 | coffee | pondering the merits of CFEngine... |
| 14:35 | gmcharlt | coffee: a bit of a learning curve, but automatic deployments FTW! |
| 14:41 | bigbrovar | Is there a limit to the number of records that can be matched when using stage marc for import? |
| 14:42 | oleonard | Debugging a minor error in a template, traced the problem back to a change in 2009 |
| 14:42 | bigbrovar | I observed that when I uploaded mrc containing 582 items.. only the first 510 where matched, the rest was ignored as unmatched even though they ought to have been matched |
| 14:44 | but when I did a seperate upload of the remaining which was ignored in the first upload. I got a match .. should I be filing a bug report? (koha 3.12 debian squeeze packages) | |
| 14:49 | kf | bigbrovar: what do you mean by items? records? |
| 14:49 | druthb | @quote random |
| 14:49 | huginn` | druthb: Quote #236: "eythian: Broadening Koha's appeal and making it ready for a post-MARC world. <-- post-MARC world sounds like post apocalyptic world , except it's MARC, so it's more like post-post-apocalyptic world" (added by wizzyrea at 10:10 PM, March 12, 2013) |
| 14:49 | kf | it can happen when you are importing duplicated records - the index is not current after importing the first one yet so the second doesn't match |
| 14:51 | nengard | hey all ... i'm home for a week ;) doing manual updates and i'm wondering about course reserves |
| 14:51 | it's only under the 'more' menu at the top | |
| 14:52 | shouldn't it be in the tools or admin or have it's own bubble on the main page? | |
| 14:52 | is there a bug report maybe for this? | |
| 14:53 | bigbrovar | kf: so am importing enteries to our koha installation from a mrc generated from csv file using marcedit. |
| 14:56 | kf: I first did a bib-record import.. using the stage marc for import tool, after which I did another marc import (this time with the holding information) and used match to tell koha to only add only items but ignore records if a match is found | |
| 14:57 | ebegin | Any git master around ? :) |
| 14:58 | I did a clone this morning and the last log I can see from the master branch is from April 26th... | |
| 14:59 | oleonard | What did you clone ebegin? |
| 14:59 | coffee | gmcharlt: We're getting ready to rebuild our VM server, when done I think I may throw up a VM and give CFEngine a test run |
| 15:00 | ebegin | git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git |
| 15:00 | gmcharlt | ebegin: you're OK |
| 15:00 | date patched was authored != date patch was committed to master | |
| 15:01 | try git log --pretty=fuller to see what I mean | |
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| 15:04 | ebegin | gmcharlt, ok, I got it ! Thank for the clarification. |
| 15:05 | drojf | http://developerexcuses.com/ |
| 15:06 | ebegin | gmcharlt++ |
| 15:12 | druthb | drojf++ |
| 15:12 | @excuse | |
| 15:12 | huginn` | druthb: My excuse for today is "failure to calibrate laser power level" |
| 15:18 | oleonard | Typical rookie mistake. |
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| 15:20 | coffee | welcome alabama |
| 15:21 | alphaman | @wunder 35801 |
| 15:21 | huginn` | alphaman: The current temperature in Blossomwood, Huntsville, Alabama is 23.8°C (10:21 AM CDT on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:21 | kf | bigbrovar: hm my only idea is that the first batch was not fully indexed when you imported it |
| 15:21 | ... when you imported the second | |
| 15:22 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 15:23 | kf | hi tcohen |
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| 15:34 | oleonard | Vote for your favorite "Course reserves" icon! |
| 15:34 | http://thenounproject.com/noun[…]oks/#icon-No11494 | |
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| 15:34 | oleonard | http://thenounproject.com/noun[…]ooks/#icon-No3700 |
| 15:35 | ebegin | Anybody knows the status of the hour loans ? |
| 15:36 | oleonard | http://thenounproject.com/noun[…]loud/#icon-No4075 |
| 15:36 | pianohacker | ebegin: They're working and integrated into current Koha, why? |
| 15:37 | ebegin | pianohacker, As we speak, it doesn't seem to have anything related to branches' opening / closing hours |
| 15:38 | jcamins | ebegin: there is no hourly calendar. |
| 15:38 | pianohacker | ebegin: bug 8133 |
| 15:38 | wahanui | bug 8133 is what started libsysguy's quest |
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| 15:38 | ebegin | that is what I meant :) Is there plan to add some ? |
| 15:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed |
| 15:39 | jcamins | I think pianohacker has a patch for that. |
| 15:39 | pianohacker | yup |
| 15:39 | jcamins | ... and sure enough he does. |
| 15:42 | ebegin | pianohacker, thanks, we will look at it |
| 15:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #343 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED) |
| 15:43 | Project Koha_Docs build #343: SUCCESS in 35 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/343/ | |
| 15:43 | * Nicole C. Engard: add course reserves | |
| 15:43 | * Nicole C. Engard: add UseCourseReserves | |
| 15:43 | * Nicole C. Engard: link to UseCourseReserves pref | |
| 15:44 | ebegin | pianohacker, do you use the opening/closing time to compute fines too ? |
| 15:44 | pianohacker | ebegin: yes |
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| 15:44 | bigbrovar | kf: hmmm I did run koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v instance after the first import... and the output showed completion without errors.. anyway..all is fine now |
| 15:46 | kf | ok |
| 15:46 | bye all | |
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| 15:48 | bigbrovar | I observed that the Title notes tab for items (under opac and staff clients) is missing.. I use amazon for enhanced contents though the book cover is pulled.. the title notes tab is empty :/ |
| 15:50 | jcamins | bigbrovar: "Title notes" is for record-level notes in the 5xx fields. |
| 15:51 | So far as I know, Amazon reviews no longer show up due to API and license changes. | |
| 15:52 | Also, Amazon book covers are controlled separately from other Amazon enhanced content. | |
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| 16:00 | nengard | jcamins i think enhanced content from syndetics might also show in title notes if you have that enabled |
| 16:01 | jcamins | nengard: oh, interesting. |
| 16:01 | wahanui | hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 16:01 | nengard | I know i've seen other content in that tab i could be wrong about the source - but it's coming from some enhanced content source |
| 16:01 | * nengard | has a brain of mush right now after all the travel |
| 16:02 | jcamins | bigbrovar: so if you have Syndetics, you might see something there. |
| 16:02 | bigbrovar | jcamins: afaict thats not free as in beer, right? |
| 16:03 | oleonard | Not free as in anything |
| 16:03 | bigbrovar | lol |
| 16:04 | jcamins | bigbrovar: right. |
| 16:04 | oleonard: well, it's free as in "you are free to sell yourself into slavery in order to pay for a temporary subscription." | |
| 16:07 | oleonard | If the terms are fair I would think it's not unreasonable to pay for something like that. I don't know the details though. |
| 16:08 | jcamins | oleonard: nor do I. |
| 16:09 | oleonard | Although if you're looking for a reason not to like Syndetics you can start with the fact that they link to the wrong Koha web site :P |
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| 16:15 | oleonard | And the votes are in! It's banana by a landslide. http://thenounproject.com/noun[…]nana/#icon-No8106 |
| 16:16 | coffee | Bananas for $1.99 |
| 16:17 | jcamins | oleonard: that's just because it tripped all the people carrying books. |
| 16:17 | coffee | ah, liability insurance |
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| 16:36 | druthb | cait! drojf! |
| 16:36 | cait | drojf! druthb! |
| 16:37 | druthb | druthb! . . . oh. Wait. |
| 16:37 | drojf | cait! druthb! |
| 16:39 | cait | heh |
| 16:47 | oleonard | Since when does " Compatible with jQuery 1.3+" mean "Requires jQuery >= 1.8?" |
| 16:48 | jcamins | oleonard: bad pixels. |
| 16:48 | The pixels on the left side of the 8 are all missing. | |
| 16:49 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
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| 19:04 | oleonard | jcamins around? |
| 19:04 | jcamins | Kinda. |
| 19:04 | For a few minutes. | |
| 19:04 | What's up? | |
| 19:05 | oleonard | I'm looking at this jstree plugin and wondering how to test its functionality in Koha. What kind of authority data do I need to see more than one level in a tree? |
| 19:06 | jcamins | You need to link some authorities together. |
| 19:06 | Create two authorities, like New York (State) and New York (City). | |
| 19:06 | (GEOGR_NAME) | |
| 19:07 | Then, after creating them, open them up again and use the auth chooser to add a broader/narrower link (as appropriate) to a 551. | |
| 19:07 | Then turn on AuthHierarchies. | |
| 19:07 | oleonard | auth chooser? |
| 19:08 | * cait | waves |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Yeah, the plugin. |
| 19:08 | If you open up the record in the editor, and click the three dots it opens the auth chooser. | |
| 19:09 | oleonard | Thanks I'll give it a try |
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| 19:50 | oleonard | I think the "In discussion" status for bugs is a graveyard. |
| 19:50 | cait | i think if you care about the bug... you can dig it up |
| 19:52 | oleonard | The discussion is really only between the patch submitter and the person who put the bug into discussion, unless someone else happens to be watching. Seems like the person putting it to "in discussion" might as well just say "failed qa" and say why they don't like it. |
| 19:52 | cait | hm maybe |
| 19:52 | for some it's easy, for others it's not | |
| 19:53 | i was thinking maybe we should have the oldest 5 or so on the dashboard? | |
| 19:53 | or we could have a 'in discussion bug' of the day | |
| 19:53 | just trying to get it back to discussion | |
| 19:55 | gmcharlt | FWIW, I try to stay on top of any I set to that status, but someties it does take too to tango |
| 19:55 | *two | |
| 19:55 | cait | agreed |
| 20:06 | edveal | I am trying to change the details display page to show the "Title notes" by default rather than the Holdings tab. Has anyone done this before? Any ideas. |
| 20:07 | cait | you could manipulate using jquery i think |
| 20:07 | setting active | |
| 20:08 | druthb | cait!! |
| 20:08 | cait++ | |
| 20:08 | cait | druthb! |
| 20:08 | edveal | Hey druthb... |
| 20:08 | wahanui | Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
| 20:08 | cait | i didn't do anything! |
| 20:08 | druthb | hey, edveal. :) |
| 20:08 | wahanui: cait? | |
| 20:08 | wahanui | i heard cait was qam, not your secretary |
| 20:08 | druthb | :P |
| 20:09 | you did too do something, cait. | |
| 20:09 | pianohacker | cait? |
| 20:09 | wahanui | cait: go to bed |
| 20:09 | druthb | listen to wahanui, cait. |
| 20:10 | cait | germs? |
| 20:10 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 20:10 | cait | you think i should? |
| 20:13 | druthb | cait? |
| 20:13 | wahanui | cait: go to bed |
| 20:13 | druthb | yes, I think you should. |
| 20:14 | cait | hmpf? |
| 20:14 | druthb | hehehe |
| 20:16 | oleonard | Fine, *I'll* got to bed! |
| 20:16 | druthb | lol |
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| 20:16 | druthb | wahoo! The office manager just came to see me; I have a parking pass for the underground garage. Guess they're gonna keep me around after all! |
| 20:16 | Now my car won't be 50C in the afternoon! | |
| 20:17 | magnuse | druthb: yay! |
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| 20:21 | cait | yay :) |
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| 20:26 | cait | oh |
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| 20:31 | * cait | waves |
| 20:32 | druthb | cait? |
| 20:32 | wahanui | cait: go to bed |
| 20:32 | cait | hmpf? |
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| 20:33 | druthb | lulz |
| 20:34 | * druthb | heads for home. |
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| 21:40 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 21:40 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.2°C (11:40 PM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:40 | cait | good morning kathryn and good night everyone |
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| 21:40 | kathryn | sleep tight cait! |
| 21:40 | miss... | |
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| 21:59 | rangi | eythian++ |
| 21:59 | cjh | eythian++ |
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| 22:37 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: move Auth_ParseSearchHistoryCookie.t to db_dependent directory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]de11ffe0eb2cdcf52> / do some validation of the KohaOpacRecentSearches cookie <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ad016f3b063661ef8> / use JSON rather than Storable for the OPAC search history cookie <http://git.koha-communi |
| 22:41 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #20 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
| 22:41 | rangi | heh galens server is faster than the main jenkins one, (or i should say the clock on the main one is slow) |
| 22:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #76 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:45 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: Does http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ad016f3b063661ef8 fix http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10338 ? |
| 22:45 | huginn` | 04Bug 10338: normal, P3, ---, oleonard, NEW , Search history can cause "Out of memory" errors |
| 22:45 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: yep -- but stand by a few minutes |
| 22:47 | wizzyrea | pianohacker: how many searches, you reckon |
| 22:47 | out of curiosity | |
| 22:47 | rangi | gmcharlt++ |
| 22:47 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: It was a pretty squirrely bug, an exact number was hard to come by |
| 22:47 | rangi | tcohen++ |
| 22:47 | cjh++ | |
| 22:47 | wizzyrea | eythian++ |
| 22:47 | rangi | bgkriegel++ |
| 22:47 | jcamins++ | |
| 22:48 | pianohacker | rangi: Better be careful with your karma, gmcharlt submitted a commit without a bug number ;) |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt is RM he can do what he wants ^.^ |
| 22:48 | pianohacker | tyrant! |
| 22:49 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: oddly enough, once I uncollapse from this, I have a solution for exactly that problem :) |
| 22:49 | pianohacker | sweet. Saw it coming across the wire, and wanted to check |
| 22:49 | and in all seriousness | |
| 22:49 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 22:51 | wizzyrea | benevolent dictator |
| 22:51 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit32: move Auth_ParseSearchHistoryCookie.t to db_dependent directory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f535c327b1fadf26> / do some validation of the KohaOpacRecentSearches cookie <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]838b37160371df845> / use JSON rather than Storable for the OPAC search history cookie <http://git.koha-commu |
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| 22:52 | cjh | gmcharlt++ |
| 22:53 | wizzyrea | http://dontbeadickday.com/ |
| 22:53 | ^ this made me laugh | |
| 22:53 | pianohacker | haha that's awesome |
| 22:54 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 22:54 | pianohacker | oh, and that email makes sense why the normal bug process didn't happen |
| 22:54 | wizzyrea | ...yeahhhh |
| 22:54 | pianohacker | apologies for harassment, and thanks for solving that one problem in the process of solving a much bigger one! |
| 22:55 | rangi | here is your reward |
| 22:55 | https://soundcloud.com/kowtow-[…]/03-nature-of-man | |
| 22:55 | crank it up | |
| 23:03 | gmcharlt | rangi++ |
| 23:10 | * rangi | giggles |
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| 23:10 | gmcharlt | hmm? |
| 23:11 | rangi | you'll see |
| 23:11 | when tweetbot catches up | |
| 23:11 | gmcharlt | ah :) |
| 23:14 | cjh | gmcharlt: pushed tag, good spot. |
| 23:14 | gmcharlt | cjh++ |
| 23:14 | tcohen++ | |
| 23:14 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 23:14 | jcamins++ | |
| 23:14 | cniighs++ | |
| 23:15 | eythian++ | |
| 23:15 | eythian++ | |
| 23:15 | eythian++ | |
| 23:15 | cjh | gmcharlt: awesome work finding the issue :) |
| 23:15 | pianohacker | ^ last three: bug finders? |
| 23:15 | ah okay | |
| 23:15 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 23:15 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: no, just the poor schlub who got tortured by requests to rebuild the packages multiple times |
| 23:15 | (re eythian) | |
| 23:15 | cjh | pianohacker: eythian was up at 11:30 pm rolling packages |
| 23:15 | pianohacker | oh jeez |
| 23:16 | eythian++ | |
| 23:16 | wizzyrea | bless him. |
| 23:16 | cjh | he deserves a good beer. |
| 23:16 | wizzyrea | definitely. |
| 23:16 | rangi | http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]-thats-right-aint |
| 23:16 | * rangi | is impatient |
| 23:16 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 23:16 | cjh | hahaha |
| 23:16 | * cjh | starts humming along |
| 23:18 | dcook | lol |
| 23:18 | hehe | |
| 23:19 | I need to check my twitter more often...I love these | |
| 23:22 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #20: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/20/ |
| 23:22 | * Galen Charlton: use JSON rather than Storable for the OPAC search history cookie | |
| 23:22 | * Galen Charlton: do some validation of the KohaOpacRecentSearches cookie | |
| 23:22 | * Galen Charlton: move Auth_ParseSearchHistoryCookie.t to db_dependent directory | |
| 23:24 | Project Koha_3.12.x build #76: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/76/ | |
| 23:24 | * Galen Charlton: use JSON rather than Storable for the OPAC search history cookie | |
| 23:24 | * Galen Charlton: do some validation of the KohaOpacRecentSearches cookie | |
| 23:24 | * Galen Charlton: move Auth_ParseSearchHistoryCookie.t to db_dependent directory | |
| 23:24 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.12.3 | |
| 23:24 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Update release notes for 3.12.3 release | |
| 23:24 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Increment version for 3.12.3 release | |
| 23:25 | Starting build #168 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 23:31 | pianohacker | Bye #koha |
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| 23:59 | dcook | So what's the commit for this security release? |
| 23:59 | rangi | there are 3 |
| 23:59 | the last 3 |
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