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| 00:12 | tcohen | quick poll: koha-{start|stop|restart}-thing or koha-thing --{start|stop|restart} ? |
| 00:12 | please, don't flood the IRC with your answers | |
| 00:13 | gmcharlt | for an init script, or something like it? I prefer koha-thing {start|stop|restart} |
| 00:14 | tcohen | its for koha-* helper scripts |
| 00:14 | gmcharlt | yep, koha-thing ... is my vote then |
| 00:15 | tcohen | so 2-0, that's a desition heh, thanks |
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| 00:29 | mtompset | the latter. |
| 00:29 | wahanui | i heard the latter was more perl critic friendly. |
| 00:29 | mtompset | wahanui forget the latter |
| 00:29 | wahanui | mtompset: I forgot latter |
| 00:29 | mtompset | tcohen: koha-thing --{start|stop|restart} |
| 00:30 | tcohen | 3-0 |
| 00:30 | mtompset | It's more like "$ sudo service blah {start|stop|restart} |
| 00:31 | what is the "thing" you are thinking about, tcohen? | |
| 00:32 | can it be turned into a service? :) | |
| 00:33 | mrx | Hi All, I'm trying to access Leader field of marc record using script as my $record = GetMarcBiblio( $data->{biblionumber} ); |
| 00:33 | my $field = $record->field('000'); print $field->as_string; but I'm getting error Can't call method "as_string" on an undefined value | |
| 00:34 | jcamins | mrx: if you take a look at the documentation, you'll see that the leader is accessed differently. |
| 00:34 | gmcharlt | mrx: the leader is special |
| 00:34 | my $leader = $record->leader(); | |
| 00:35 | jcamins | And gmcharlt even knows the syntax. |
| 00:35 | mtompset | Didn't gmcharlt write the routines? |
| 00:36 | gmcharlt | mtompset: no, but I am the current maintainer of the package |
| 00:36 | jcamins | He's the maintainer, anyway. |
| 00:36 | mtompset | Sorry to hear that. ;) |
| 00:36 | gmcharlt | mtompset: would you believe I took on that task voluntarily? ;) |
| 00:37 | mtompset | gmcharlt++ # you be crazy, me like. :) |
| 00:39 | tcohen: Ah, I can see why you asked the question. koha-start-zip koha-start-zebra, for example, are the first syntax. | |
| 00:39 | Oops... sip, not zip. | |
| 00:42 | The problem with being the maintainer is it usually comes with all the blame, and very little of the glory. | |
| 00:50 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9801: display facet labels in search results only when there are facet values <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e1dd6de6ff138eab9> |
| 00:59 | tcohen | mtompset, thing=indexer, of course, found a little bug, and of course led to a full rewrite |
| 01:00 | heh | |
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| 01:00 | tcohen | it just bothered me so much code duplication |
| 01:00 | dcook | boo code duplication! |
| 01:00 | * dcook | says without context |
| 01:01 | tcohen | oops, 2 mins of battery left |
| 01:02 | * tcohen | better wishes gmcharlt a really awesome birthday and leave |
| 01:02 | tcohen | good night #koha! |
| 01:03 | dcook | Oooh yeah. Need to charge the phone... |
| 01:03 | Happy belated/early/on-time birthday, gmcharlt! | |
| 01:07 | gmcharlt | thanks! |
| 01:10 | cjh | oohhh happy birthday gmcharlt ! |
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| 01:11 | dcook | gmcharlt: Are you in Minnesota? |
| 01:12 | gmcharlt | Seattle |
| 01:12 | dcook | Ahh, ok |
| 01:12 | I don't know why I thought Minnesota...but I was going to ask why you're on the computer so late in the evening on your birthday! | |
| 01:13 | Google tells me its a beautiful West Coast evening ;) | |
| 01:13 | Well, maybe a little on the warm side | |
| 01:13 | gmcharlt | it's tomorrow in my timezone :) |
| 01:14 | dcook | So your birthday is Friday? |
| 01:14 | * dcook | is eternally screwing up people's birthdays since moving to Oz |
| 01:14 | dcook | Well, not screwing them up |
| 01:14 | That would be rather amazing at such a distance | |
| 01:14 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 01:14 | dcook | Just tough to remember the future/past relationship |
| 01:15 | In that case, happy early birthday :p | |
| 01:15 | Hope its a good one :) | |
| 01:16 | gmcharlt | thanks |
| 01:46 | dcook | Anyone around that's familiar with advance_notices.pl? |
| 01:46 | I can't for the life of me figure out how advanced notices have "to_addresses" when they're not passing a "to_address" variable to C4::Letters::EnqueueLetter | |
| 01:47 | Unless... | |
| 01:47 | wahanui | hmmm... unless is probably meant to give code that reads more like natural language? but i'm not a fan either |
| 01:48 | dcook | Nope. I don't see it. |
| 01:50 | Unless they're calculated when they're being sent... | |
| 01:50 | That must be it | |
| 01:52 | Indeed! That is the ticket! | |
| 01:52 | ^_^ | |
| 01:52 | Chouette | |
| 01:53 | Reading interest email alerting is working :D | |
| 01:58 | kathryn | oh thanks dcook :) |
| 01:58 | dcook | Hmm? |
| 01:59 | kathryn: I didn't know anyone was listening :p. Why the thanks? | |
| 02:00 | kathryn | for the early birthday wishes! |
| 02:00 | hehe | |
| 02:00 | mtompset | birthday greetings? Is it your birthday, gmcharlt? |
| 02:00 | kathryn | I'm on my own in the office.... |
| 02:00 | turns a lurker into a chatter | |
| 02:01 | dcook | I'm slightly confused, but that's all right! |
| 02:01 | Yay chatting! | |
| 02:01 | Why the empty office, kathryn? | |
| 02:02 | kathryn | happy early birthday is a nice general greeting, for everyone except if it's your birthday! |
| 02:02 | dcook: everyone but me has somewhere to be.... | |
| 02:03 | dcook | Hmm, good point. That reminds me that Wintervention is coming up soon... |
| 02:04 | Wintervention (being a sort of Christmas in July) | |
| 02:04 | Next weekend...ack. I better not forget.. | |
| 02:04 | kathryn: I suppose a quiet Friday can't be all bad ;) | |
| 02:04 | kathryn | :) |
| 02:05 | dcook | Any plans for the weekend? |
| 02:10 | kathryn | baby shower for first in next generation on my side of the fam tomorrow, then seeing some pals. Maybe a little gardening. Chores... |
| 02:11 | dcook | Sounds good except the chores ;) |
| 02:12 | We're growing potatos at the moment in some large pots next to the house. I've never done it before but the stalks are getting pretty tall, so I'm excited for what's under the earth... | |
| 02:13 | kathryn | ooh nice. my gardening will infact be preparing a potato plot! |
| 02:15 | dcook | Sweet. What kind of potatos? If all goes well, we might have to build some boxes for the backyard... |
| 02:17 | kathryn | am planning for agrias and jersey whatsamcallits, they're my faves. Oh and I'm a first time grower I have no advice! |
| 02:19 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:19 | You read my mind! I was going to ask ;) | |
| 02:20 | I think my family grew some as a kid and my grandparents have a farm with a huge garden and a root cellar, but...I don't really remember anything | |
| 02:20 | Just the memory of my grandfather climbing up out of this 4 foot wide hole in the ground with a bag of potatos in his hands :) | |
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| 02:56 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:56 | dcook | \o |
| 02:56 | druthb | \o/ |
| 03:01 | mtompset | \o/ |
| 03:01 | o/ | |
| 03:01 | \o | |
| 03:01 | druthb | :D |
| 03:02 | wizzyrea | ymca? |
| 03:02 | wahanui | \ ^o^ /o/ /o\ |
| 03:02 | wizzyrea | the y is messed up. |
| 03:02 | druthb | lulz |
| 03:02 | mtompset | yes, the y is messed up. |
| 03:02 | wahanui | i already had it that way, mtompset. |
| 03:02 | mtompset | y |
| 03:02 | the y | |
| 03:02 | the y? | |
| 03:02 | wahanui | the y is messed up. |
| 03:02 | mtompset | forget the y |
| 03:02 | wahanui | mtompset: I forgot y |
| 03:15 | dcook | O_o |
| 03:15 | Ahh | |
| 03:15 | Durrr | |
| 03:15 | * dcook | tries to remember what he was doing |
| 03:15 | dcook | Exporter! |
| 03:15 | * dcook | growls semi-playfully at Perl |
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| 03:44 | mtompset | Greetings, Oak. :) |
| 03:50 | Oak | hello mtompset :) |
| 03:50 | * Oak | waves |
| 03:50 | mtompset | How are things with you, Oak? |
| 03:51 | Oak | things are ok. thank you! what about you mtompset? |
| 03:52 | mtompset | Okay. Just writing up some steps to set up a development VM from scratch. |
| 03:52 | wizzyrea | why? just use gitify. |
| 03:52 | Oak | cool :) |
| 03:52 | wizzyrea | www.github.com/mkfifo |
| 03:53 | https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify | |
| 03:54 | plus there's | |
| 03:54 | version control using git? | |
| 03:54 | wahanui | it has been said that version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 03:54 | mtompset | because there's nothing mentioning how to set up qa-test-tools. |
| 03:54 | and nothing mentioning how to set up dh-make-perl's cpan2deb. | |
| 03:56 | Though, that is another thing to put on my todo list: try out koha-gitify. | |
| 03:57 | See what happens when I try to do something strange like check out an older version of koha. | |
| 03:58 | wizzyrea | works just fine. |
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| 03:59 | mtompset | I'm sure it does, but there's nothing like having done it to feel confident about that. :) |
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| 04:18 | mtompset | a perl question before going to sleep. sprintf clearly left justifies and right justifies well. How do you tell it to center justify? |
| 04:23 | Sleep is calling. | |
| 04:23 | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. | |
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| 05:40 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:41 | dcook | morning cait :) |
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| 05:43 | cait | hi dcook :) |
| 05:44 | dcook | Man...I thought I had undercovered some major bug.. |
| 05:44 | Hmm, maybe it is a bug in Mysql.. | |
| 05:44 | Or...DBI.. | |
| 05:44 | Probably DBI or some other mysql driver.. | |
| 05:47 | cait | hm? |
| 05:48 | dcook | The "code" field of borrower_attributes is VARCHAR(10) |
| 05:49 | Let's say you have a borrower attribute type of "TEST_CODE5" | |
| 05:49 | Well, I guess this is a pretty rare scenario... | |
| 05:49 | But if you intervene...and tell it to insert a code of "TEST_CODE56" | |
| 05:49 | It'll truncate the last character, since it's over the 10 limit, and insert it into the database | |
| 05:50 | Rather than producing an error that your code is over 10 characters | |
| 05:50 | rangi | it will if you have raise_error on |
| 05:50 | but yep mysql tries to help, and assumes you meant to do that | |
| 05:50 | ie, you have to be smarter in your code | |
| 05:50 | cait | dcook: hm it was always like that - bit annoying |
| 05:51 | dcook | rangi: Indeed :) |
| 05:51 | rangi | edit C4/Context.pm |
| 05:51 | the dbh bit | |
| 05:52 | and add RaiseError => 1 | |
| 05:52 | dcook | Mmm, the part where it looks for the ENV{DEBUG} ? |
| 05:52 | rangi | nope |
| 05:52 | the DBI->connect bit | |
| 05:52 | dcook | Yeah, that's where I'm looking O_o |
| 05:53 | But I gotcha | |
| 05:53 | rangi | you can do this too |
| 05:53 | $dbh->{RaiseError} =1 ; | |
| 05:54 | dcook | Oh...I like that... |
| 05:55 | Hmm, not sure that worked... | |
| 05:56 | Mmm, I'm probably doing it in the wrong spot.. | |
| 05:56 | Nope... | |
| 05:58 | rangi: Looks like neither of those methods work | |
| 05:59 | Smarter code it is | |
| 05:59 | Which should actually be pretty easy.. | |
| 05:59 | rangi | check the contents of $sth->err |
| 06:00 | dcook | If there is a $sth-err, it bails, and that wasn't happening |
| 06:00 | * dcook | goes to check anyway |
| 06:01 | dcook | Looks like I had a warning for that as well, but it never showed either |
| 06:04 | rangi | mysql_warning_count will have something i bet |
| 06:18 | dcook | Very possibly |
| 06:18 | In the end, I'll just do some code checks, but it is...interesting nonetheless | |
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| 06:37 | dcook | hey ya reiveune :) |
| 06:38 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:09 | dcook | Have a good friday/weekend folks! |
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| 07:29 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:54 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
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| 08:21 | kf | hi #koha |
| 08:26 | eythian | hi |
| 08:31 | christophe_c | hello kf |
| 08:37 | kf | hi eythian and christophe_c |
| 08:37 | eythian | wizzyrea: I hope my house didn't fall over :) |
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| 09:09 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 09:09 | eythian | @wunder bn1 1nb |
| 09:09 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Saltdean, Brighton, United Kingdom is 23.8°C (10:05 AM BST on July 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:17 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:17 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 23.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on July 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:17 | kf | guess brighton wins today :) |
| 09:18 | although it's really nice outside | |
| 09:20 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 09:20 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.4°C (11:12 AM CEST on July 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:21 | eythian | it'd be warmer here I expect, but there's a bit of wind |
| 09:26 | kf | hi drojf :) |
| 09:31 | drojf | hi kf |
| 09:33 | looks like my cron jobs don't use the git version but the files of the package installation i based it on. why? | |
| 09:33 | eythian | PERL5LIB |
| 09:33 | wahanui | i heard PERL5LIB was set to /home/koha/kohaclone |
| 09:34 | drojf | i only find that somewhere in apache and that is correct |
| 09:34 | eythian | it's also defined in the /usr/sbin/koha-* scripts I think. |
| 09:35 | @later tell tcohen the PERL5LIB used by the scripts is something that also could go in /etc/default/koha-common I think. | |
| 09:35 | huginn` | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:38 | drojf | ah right, it looks like it is in koha-foreach among others. i'll check those files, thanks eythian |
| 10:00 | kf | Joubu++ for tidying up :) |
| 10:11 | Joubu | kf: I know there are some reports about rates formats. I will try to do something but as you said, it's a big project |
| 10:16 | kf | Joubu: yeah, not sure what to do here |
| 10:17 | that's why i put the one in discussion - maybe we should bring it to the mailing list... or find another way to fiugre out things that are in discussion | |
| 10:22 | or.. just find out how this works best. | |
| 10:55 | Joubu | kf I submitted a quick draft on bug 9410, just a try... |
| 10:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9410 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, hugh, In Discussion , Formatting of the discount field when doing a new order from new empty record is not correct |
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| 11:35 | kf | Joubu++ cool thx |
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| 12:06 | tcohen | morning #koha |
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| 12:09 | drojf | kf++ |
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| 12:19 | kf | morning oleonard :) |
| 12:19 | oleonard | Hi |
| 12:19 | wahanui | hello, oleonard |
| 12:26 | tcohen | hi kf |
| 12:54 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7598: [Follow-up] make strings in acquisitions JavaScript translatable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]753d638e96bb62bb8> / Bug 7598: make strings in acquisitions JavaScript translatable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1d5a7d1a50f3ac3ac> |
| 13:07 | oleonard | Hey everyone, if you're not using a pre-commit hook which stops you before you commit with things like console.log and warn, you should! |
| 13:07 | So handy. | |
| 13:10 | Joubu | yep, an example in the qa-tools repo: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]46cf1ff98;hb=HEAD |
| 13:15 | eythian | wahanui: farmville |
| 13:15 | wahanui | eythian: excuse me? |
| 13:15 | eythian | wahanui: farmville is <reply>I think you mean https://openfarmgame.com/ $who |
| 13:15 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 13:16 | oleonard | farmville? |
| 13:16 | wahanui | I think you mean https://openfarmgame.com/ oleonard |
| 13:17 | oleonard | eythian: Do you use pump.io? |
| 13:18 | eythian | oleonard: not right now because my password has gone in the relocation of identi.ca, and I didn't have an email set up to do recovery |
| 13:19 | however, I've emailed evan so hope to have it back soon. | |
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| 14:08 | kf | hi tcohen :) |
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| 14:12 | tcohen | i've rolled my first deb upgrade :-D |
| 14:12 | kf | yay :) |
| 14:20 | rambutan | tcohen++ |
| 14:20 | tcohen | ? |
| 14:20 | oh, thanks | |
| 14:38 | kf | oleonard++ |
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| 14:46 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 14:46 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 14:46 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. :) |
| 14:47 | Today's fun side task: attempt FreeBSD Koha install. :) | |
| 14:52 | tcohen | suddenly, dput koha_3.12.1~indexer3_amd64.changes is uploading stuff to upload.ubuntu.com WTF? |
| 14:53 | i forgot to tell dput *where* to upload heh | |
| 14:55 | eythian | Koha isn't really read for submission to Ubuntu yet, tcohen |
| 14:55 | tcohen | of course it isn't |
| 14:55 | its just my mistake, but cannot belive i was able to upload it | |
| 14:55 | somewhere, not shure what will happen to that | |
| 14:58 | kf | hm do we have infrmation about koha and oclc connexion somehwere? |
| 14:59 | mtompset | oclc? |
| 15:00 | kf | yeah, but i found it |
| 15:00 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]oclcappendix.html | |
| 15:00 | mtompset | Didn't someone here tell me WorldCat was evil? |
| 15:00 | kf | well, people still ask |
| 15:00 | mtompset | True enough. |
| 15:01 | Greetings, eythian kf. | |
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| 15:02 | mtompset | Greetings, pianohacker |
| 15:02 | eythian | hi |
| 15:02 | pianohacker | hey mtompset |
| 15:02 | wahanui | rumour has it mtompset is disliking the silent warnings flooding his error logs |
| 15:02 | pianohacker | hey eythian |
| 15:07 | mtompset | There. Now the response will be more accurate. :) |
| 15:07 | * druthb | waves to mtompset |
| 15:08 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb. So today is happy anniversary? |
| 15:08 | I've lost track of time. | |
| 15:08 | druthb | yep. :) |
| 15:11 | gmcharlt | druthb++ |
| 15:11 | @quote random | |
| 15:11 | huginn` | gmcharlt: Quote #206: "There's a bug for that" (added by chrisc at 11:55 PM, May 24, 2012) |
| 15:12 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:14 | druthb | oh! Today is gmcharlt's birthday, too! |
| 15:14 | * druthb | sings "happy birthday." |
| 15:14 | druthb | gmcharlt++ |
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| 15:18 | oleonard | How about this: http://www.screencast.com/t/lLxIcLxa |
| 15:19 | * Joubu | will be afk for 3 weeks |
| 15:19 | Joubu | bye #koha |
| 15:19 | oleonard | Bye Joubu |
| 15:20 | gmcharlt | Joubu: have a good time off |
| 15:21 | oleonard: looks good | |
| 15:21 | eythian | papa was working late. |
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| 15:28 | rambutan | I note that Evergreen got a blurb in "Computers In LIbraries" in association w/ Alexander Street Press--for some search and record dev work |
| 15:30 | mtompset | Greetings, oleonard gmcharlt rambutan. |
| 15:30 | And happy birthday, gmcharlt. :) | |
| 15:30 | rambutan | hi mtompset |
| 15:49 | kf | oh now I missed Joubu |
| 15:49 | Joubu: have a good vacation! | |
| 15:50 | and Alles Gute zum Geburtstag gmcharlt :) | |
| 15:50 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 15:52 | gmcharlt | kf: thanks! |
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| 17:04 | oleonard | Still trying to successfully test Bug 10483. Still doesn't warn me about duplicate barcodes. |
| 17:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10483 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , check_uniqueness.pl does not work |
| 17:05 | oleonard | If I can't get it to trigger an error I can't correct Bug 10442 properly. |
| 17:05 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10442 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove references to non-standard "error" class |
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| 17:10 | pianohacker | oleonard: khall's out today, unfortunately, so he wouldn't have any info on the patch |
| 17:32 | cait | oleonard: where are you testin git? |
| 17:32 | testing it :) | |
| 17:32 | oleonard | neworderempty.pl |
| 17:33 | cait | i think it only ever used to work in acq |
| 17:33 | ok hm | |
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| 17:50 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 17:50 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 26.6°C (7:50 PM CEST on July 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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| 18:05 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 18:06 | huginn` | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 7.0°C (3:00 PM ART on July 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:06 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 18:06 | huginn` | rambutan: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 33.5°C (1:00 PM CDT on July 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:08 | mtompset | @wunder toronto, canada |
| 18:08 | huginn` | mtompset: The current temperature in Toronto, Ontario is 27.0°C (2:00 PM EDT on July 19, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:08 | mtompset | That's pretty chilly, tcohen. |
| 18:12 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 18:12 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 32.8°C (1:41 PM EDT on July 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... |
| 18:37 | tcohen | nice weekend for every1 #koha |
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| 19:08 | oleonard | Why would Serials warn me that 12 issues are expected if I have specified that 5 are expected? |
| 19:10 | cait | hm |
| 19:10 | did you choose a monthly prediction pattern? | |
| 19:10 | did you choose a length of 12 months/issues? | |
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| 19:10 | cait | hi drojf |
| 19:10 | oleonard | 1/month, 5 issues expected, subscription length: 5 months. |
| 19:11 | cait | hm |
| 19:11 | and the dates are 5 months too? | |
| 19:11 | oleonard | Which dates? |
| 19:12 | drojf | hi cait |
| 19:12 | saying hi the second i enter… what do you want? :P | |
| 19:12 | cait | subscription start and end date |
| 19:12 | drojf: i slept earlier. | |
| 19:12 | drojf | yay! |
| 19:13 | cait | and i wanted to be nice! |
| 19:13 | drojf | :) |
| 19:13 | * drojf | gives cait a cookie |
| 19:14 | oleonard | It doesn't seem to matter what date I put in the start or end date field. |
| 19:15 | cait | oleonard: hm where does it say 12? |
| 19:17 | oleonard | "Warning irregularity detected. 12 issues expected, 5 were entered" |
| 19:20 | cait | hm |
| 19:20 | it seems to assume that 1/month should be 12 then | |
| 19:21 | oleonard: are you looking at normal serials? or with a patch? | |
| 19:21 | oleonard | Normal |
| 19:21 | cait | hm |
| 19:22 | drojf | yay, i can add and delete gpg key via koha |
| 19:22 | s/key/keys | |
| 19:24 | i suppose i can save the time to do anything about encryption of emails between library and vendors? | |
| 19:25 | oleonard | I hate acquisitions, and I hate serials! I can never tell if I just don't understand the workflow or if it doesn't actually make sense. |
| 19:25 | cait | :( |
| 19:25 | drojf | heh |
| 19:26 | cait: have you had a look at that serial alert thing with the same email in from and to? | |
| 19:26 | cait | i can hel mor ewith acq i think |
| 19:26 | i never tried a 5 month subscription | |
| 19:26 | i always go yearly | |
| 19:27 | * oleonard | is trying to pick up Bug 8694 again |
| 19:27 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8694 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Show accurate subscription renewal warning for expired subscriptions |
| 19:27 | cait | oleonard++ and cookies |
| 19:30 | oleonard: late shift? | |
| 19:30 | oleonard | Nope, still normal work hours here |
| 19:30 | cait | ah |
| 19:30 | how muc longer? | |
| 19:31 | oleonard | For me, another 45 minutes |
| 19:31 | cait | gogogo :) |
| 19:31 | i had the signed off queue down to 34 on last sunday | |
| 19:32 | and we are back up to 59! | |
| 19:32 | * oleonard | is listening to a loud thunderstorm outside |
| 19:32 | cait | ooh nice |
| 19:32 | i like thunderstorms | |
| 19:33 | oleonard | Is this correct? "'Subscription end date' should only be entered for subscriptions that have ended (if you're entering in a backlog of serials)" |
| 19:33 | cait | hm the one in the history? |
| 19:33 | for that it sounds right i guess | |
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| 19:49 | drojf | druthb! |
| 19:49 | druthb | drojf! |
| 19:49 | drojf | :) |
| 19:50 | * cait | hands out a round of cookies |
| 19:50 | cait | it's friday! |
| 19:50 | who is having pizza today? | |
| 19:51 | * oleonard | hopes third time is a charm for Bug 3134 |
| 19:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3134 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Ability to selelct multiple reports to delete at once |
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| 19:54 | pianohacker | cait: Does dominos count? I am pretty hungry |
| 19:54 | cait | hmmm would think so |
| 19:54 | jcamins | We had takeout pizza for lunch. |
| 19:55 | cait | same here |
| 19:55 | pianohacker | jcamins: You live in NY, your takeout pizza is miles above what I can get :P |
| 19:55 | oleonard | "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 1 and 2426 different commits each, respectively." |
| 19:55 | jcamins | pianohacker: that is true. |
| 19:55 | druthb | dominos is not pizza. It is flavored cardboard. |
| 19:55 | pianohacker | Yeah |
| 19:55 | cait | lower in calories? |
| 19:55 | druthb | ooh. |
| 19:56 | wahanui: dominos? | |
| 19:56 | wahanui | dominos is not pizza. It is flavored cardboard. |
| 19:56 | druthb | lulz |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | I've had enough of it since I came to college that I'm starting to enjoy it ;_; |
| 19:56 | mtompset | 2426?! |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | oleonard: You're up for a really painful rebase, it sounds like |
| 19:57 | oleonard | What can I say mtompset, I have many irons in the fire. |
| 19:57 | cait | heh |
| 19:57 | mtompset | At least 2400 too many, it would seem. |
| 19:57 | * druthb | pokes wahanui with her pointy stick, gently. |
| 19:57 | druthb | wahanui: cait? |
| 19:57 | wahanui | cait is counting on magnuse here a little bit... |
| 19:58 | druthb | wahanui: botsnack pizza. |
| 19:58 | wahanui | thanks druthb :) |
| 19:58 | mtompset | dominos pizza? We have pizza pizza here. That's better than dominos. |
| 19:58 | oregano on a meatlover's pizza is a nice add on. :) | |
| 19:59 | drojf | meatlover's pizza? |
| 19:59 | * oleonard | blames this conflict on pianohacker's pessimism |
| 19:59 | pianohacker | wut? |
| 19:59 | oh | |
| 19:59 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 19:59 | jcamins | mtompset: sounds perfect, if you take away the sausage, ham, and whatever else is involved. |
| 20:00 | mtompset | meatlover's pizza... it's all the usual meats: pepperoni, sausage, ham, bacon strips or crumble, etc. etc. |
| 20:00 | drojf | that sounds not really attractive :P |
| 20:00 | mtompset | That reminds me... I was going to look up the cauliflower-based pizza recipe. |
| 20:00 | drojf | i think i agree with jcamins ;) |
| 20:01 | also i have some kind of deja-vu feeling | |
| 20:01 | jcamins | drojf: me too. |
| 20:01 | oleonard | mtompset: Vegan? |
| 20:02 | mtompset | It can be... the goal is to avoid the carbohydrates from the dough. |
| 20:03 | drojf | so it's cauliflower dough, not on top?? |
| 20:03 | jcamins | You know what I had that was really good with cauliflower? |
| 20:03 | A cauliflower white sauce. | |
| 20:03 | It was bizarrely good. | |
| 20:03 | oleonard | Cauliflower with cauliflower white sauce? |
| 20:04 | jcamins | No, the white sauce was really good. |
| 20:04 | mtompset | Well, it's a cauliflower base for what is called a pizza. |
| 20:04 | jcamins | It wasn't pizza. |
| 20:04 | drojf | lol |
| 20:05 | oleonard | I need to leave myself better notes about why a particular branch is unfinished. |
| 20:06 | jcamins | "Insufficient pizza." |
| 20:06 | mtompset | having one of those "What was I thinking X months ago?" moments, oleonard? |
| 20:06 | oleonard | Thinking "Was this not done, not fully tested, or did you just not have time to submit the patch?" |
| 20:07 | drojf | just start again to be on the safe side |
| 20:07 | mtompset | start with the testing, and then you'll know? |
| 20:07 | or did you forget how to test it too? | |
| 20:12 | YAY! found the pizza crust recipe. | |
| 20:15 | cait | ok, can i get one more sign off? |
| 20:15 | to make it 60? :) | |
| 20:15 | preferrably a unimarc one? :) | |
| 20:16 | oleonard | Not me, it's quitting time! |
| 20:16 | Bye everyone | |
| 20:17 | pianohacker | jcamins: You generally go for low-topping pizza? |
| 20:17 | * cait | waves as oleonard leaves |
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| 20:19 | drojf | oh no, kde's rotten network manager made me miss all the cauliflower talk |
| 20:19 | cait | lol |
| 20:19 | i don#t like cauliflower | |
| 20:22 | drojf | how do these serial alert things work? there is not even a syspref with alert in the name :( |
| 20:23 | jcamins | pianohacker: no, I don't like meat on pizza. |
| 20:23 | Well- I like pepperoni, but no other meat. | |
| 20:23 | cait | drojf: there is no switch |
| 20:23 | they just work | |
| 20:23 | drojf | what?? |
| 20:23 | cait | when you have a patorn notification selected in the subscription |
| 20:23 | there will be a link | |
| 20:23 | pianohacker | interesting. |
| 20:23 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 20:23 | cait | in the second history of the subscription in the opac |
| 20:24 | jcamins | I go for whatever-I-can-find-in-the-fridge-and-pantry toppings. |
| 20:24 | cait | the subscriptions are stort in the alerts table |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Cashews, onions, sundried tomatoes, rosemary, etc. |
| 20:24 | cait | and don't get irritated by the documentation stating it has something to do with routing lists, it has not |
| 20:24 | drojf | err. i have no subscriptions. that sounds like too much fun to set up now to have a look at a broken email function. i hereby declare that the encrypion just works |
| 20:25 | * cait | as QA doesn't buy that |
| 20:25 | cait | just do a really easy subscription |
| 20:25 | drojf | then i revert it and don't care about it at all :P |
| 20:25 | cait | it's really lots less painful then setting up acq mails |
| 20:25 | drojf | acq mails? |
| 20:27 | cait | yeah |
| 20:27 | like... suggestion mails | |
| 20:27 | your suggestion has been accepted | |
| 20:27 | your suggestion has been rejected... etc. | |
| 20:27 | yu did check those, right? :P | |
| 20:29 | drojf | i don't think i have seen them. or they use the "regular" (lol) way of sending mails |
| 20:30 | ok i have a subscription now. and what do i do next? | |
| 20:30 | i open that in the opac? | |
| 20:30 | pianohacker | jcamins: cashews? Interesting. Whole or sliced? |
| 20:30 | tcohen | mtompset: |
| 20:31 | jcamins | pianohacker: broken, because broken cashews are $4.49/lb and whole cashes are $7.99/lb. |
| 20:31 | :D | |
| 20:31 | mtompset | yes? |
| 20:31 | jcamins | Which reminds me. I need more cashews. |
| 20:31 | pianohacker | cashews are goddamn fantastic |
| 20:31 | tcohen | where does opensuse store init scripts configurations? /etc/sysconfig/appname? |
| 20:32 | drojf | oh. ah. hm. err. are those subscription alerts supposed to be sent to the library, not a patron? |
| 20:32 | mtompset | I deleted my opensuse VM. Sorry, don't recall. |
| 20:32 | cait | drojf: they do go through message queue |
| 20:32 | i know that much | |
| 20:32 | mtompset | just being annoyed by the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/blah mess of FreeBSD. |
| 20:32 | cait | you check if you have sleected a template for patron notification in your subscription |
| 20:32 | drojf | if they are for the library the same email in from and to would make sense |
| 20:32 | cait | or else the link won't show up |
| 20:32 | the default one is named RLIST - routing list | |
| 20:32 | drojf | i what? |
| 20:32 | wahanui | well, drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi! |
| 20:32 | cait | which is not accurate |
| 20:33 | drojf: no they are not for the library. | |
| 20:33 | drojf | ah i found that routing list thing |
| 20:33 | i dont see that on the opac side | |
| 20:34 | so staff has to manually add people to that list? | |
| 20:34 | cait | no |
| 20:34 | so you put it in? | |
| 20:34 | now go to the record in the opac | |
| 20:34 | subscription tab | |
| 20:34 | and more details | |
| 20:34 | drojf | put what in where? |
| 20:34 | aaaah | |
| 20:35 | i have üput myself manually onto the routing list at rank 1. in the staff client | |
| 20:35 | i think you wanted me to do something else but i have no idea what that might be | |
| 20:36 | cait | *sigh* |
| 20:36 | you are not listening | |
| 20:36 | drojf | you are speaking in tongues |
| 20:36 | cait | i am not |
| 20:36 | (22:34:17) cait: now go to the record in the opac | |
| 20:36 | (22:34:20) cait: subscription tab | |
| 20:36 | (22:34:22) cait: and more details | |
| 20:36 | what does your subscription detail view say for patron notification | |
| 20:36 | ? | |
| 20:37 | jcamins | mtompset: I found BSD's init rc system to be more straightforward than Linux's. |
| 20:37 | drojf | it does not exist? |
| 20:38 | oh mom | |
| 20:38 | jcamins | drojf: init/rc, same difference. |
| 20:38 | drojf | The current subscription began on 07/19/2013 and is issued every week for 12 months The first subscription was started on |
| 20:38 | cait | oh my, i will make you a screenshot |
| 20:38 | drojf | there is no patron notification |
| 20:39 | cait | there is. |
| 20:39 | but you are being stubborn :P | |
| 20:39 | ok, edit your subscripiton | |
| 20:39 | left column | |
| 20:39 | pull down | |
| 20:39 | wahanui | pull down is empty? |
| 20:39 | jcamins | wahanui: not right now! |
| 20:39 | wahanui | jcamins: what? |
| 20:40 | cait | te field is labelled: Patron notificaton |
| 20:40 | make sure it does not say none | |
| 20:41 | drojf | ok. that was easy once you told me it is in the staff client and not the opac where you told me to look for it |
| 20:41 | :P | |
| 20:42 | cait | that's the first step |
| 20:42 | i thought oyu had already done that | |
| 20:42 | drojf | how would i know about it? i clicked wildly through the gibberish on that page |
| 20:42 | ;) | |
| 20:42 | ok i see a link now to subscribe | |
| 20:42 | cait | yay! |
| 20:42 | drojf | thank you |
| 20:43 | cait | in the opac? |
| 20:43 | drojf | cait++ |
| 20:43 | yes | |
| 20:43 | cait | ok, subscribe |
| 20:43 | then go back to serials | |
| 20:43 | and receive an issue | |
| 20:43 | means switching the status from expected to arrived | |
| 20:43 | drojf | my first issue comes next week :D |
| 20:43 | cait | doesn't matter :) |
| 20:44 | drojf | ok i did that |
| 20:44 | cait | that should have done it |
| 20:44 | drojf | yay! |
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| 21:06 | cait | noone to sign off number 60? |
| 21:07 | pianohacker | now, do you mean sign off the 60th patch, or add a 60th patch to the queue? >:D |
| 21:08 | tcohen | cait: druthb would tackle on us if we recommended patches for sign-off |
| 21:08 | i just uploaded a trivial patch btw :-P | |
| 21:08 | cait | hehe |
| 21:09 | pianohacker: whatever you prefer | |
| 21:09 | tcohen | 10617 |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | bug 10617 |
| 21:12 | drojf | trivial patch including "build your own package". no deal :P |
| 21:12 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10617 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Init script cleanup |
| 21:13 | drojf | oh, i have to send that kohacon2014 email soon |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | yes, like now :P |
| 21:13 | :) | |
| 21:13 | cait | wizzyrea: be nice, it's late :) |
| 21:13 | drojf | no. brain shut down already |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | tomorrow then ;) |
| 21:14 | drojf | maybe, if i get icecream ;) |
| 21:14 | córdoba needs some competition | |
| 21:15 | jcamins | Why? |
| 21:15 | drojf | what happened to the gazillion of proposals from last year? |
| 21:15 | cait | no idea |
| 21:15 | but i think less options, less drama | |
| 21:15 | drojf | jcamins: why not? nothing wrong with them winning, but isn't it more fun? |
| 21:16 | tcohen | maybe need to send some more emails? |
| 21:16 | drojf | no spreadsheet calculation things and spammy emails |
| 21:16 | jcamins | drojf: not particularly. This way I don't need to read anything. :P |
| 21:17 | drojf | tcohen: i just said i will :P |
| 21:17 | tcohen | heh, it was not intended to sound like that :-P |
| 21:18 | mtompset | jcamins: It makes sense, but for init rc stuff, I wasn't expecting /usr/local versions. |
| 21:19 | drojf | should i also ask for proposals for a livedvdkohacon? |
| 21:19 | mtompset | Huh? why? |
| 21:19 | wahanui | Huh? why are you installing firefox instead of just using iceweasel? |
| 21:20 | mtompset | wahanui forget huh |
| 21:20 | wahanui | mtompset, I didn't have anything matching huh |
| 21:20 | mtompset | wahanui forget huh? |
| 21:20 | wahanui | mtompset, I didn't have anything matching huh |
| 21:20 | mtompset | wahanui forget huh? why? |
| 21:20 | wahanui | mtompset: I forgot huh? why |
| 21:21 | drojf | i hav not heard anything about livedvds in a while. could be interesting to get some updates |
| 21:21 | mtompset | a LiveDVD KohaCon? That would be an interesting/heated topic/workshop. And would be something interesting to argue over at the hackfest part. |
| 21:22 | tcohen | we currently have a livecd task force in cordoba :-P |
| 21:24 | drojf | tcohen: so you are proposing to combine kohacon2014 and livedvdkohacon2014 in córdoba? great! |
| 21:24 | we could skip the hackfest in favour of the livedvdfest | |
| 21:24 | tcohen | no no |
| 21:24 | please nooooooooooooo | |
| 21:24 | mtompset | drojf: NO WAY! |
| 21:25 | cait | lol |
| 21:25 | tcohen | they got stuck a while ago http://sourceforge.net/projects/livekohacba/ |
| 21:25 | drojf | who needs to hack? we stop development and everyone build their own livedvd instead |
| 21:26 | rangi | im quite happy if cordoba is the only choice :) |
| 21:26 | mtompset | mint?! Why go with linux mint? |
| 21:26 | cait | morning rangi :) |
| 21:26 | tcohen | they love xfce |
| 21:26 | jcamins | tcohen: I like the irony of the name. |
| 21:26 | drojf | 3.8.4? |
| 21:26 | pianohacker | hahahaha, 441 ppi :D |
| 21:27 | mtompset | But you can use xfce in Ubuntu or Debian, can't you? |
| 21:28 | drojf | i'd be happy with córdoba if i already had a raft to go there |
| 21:28 | rangi | damn spammers |
| 21:28 | drojf | i plan to build one from yerba mate softdrink bottles |
| 21:28 | ;) | |
| 21:28 | rangi | mtompset: mint is a debian based one, and is nicer than ubuntu |
| 21:28 | if i wasnt using debian id use mint | |
| 21:28 | i dont trust canoncial | |
| 21:29 | mtompset | no more than you trust red hat, either? |
| 21:29 | rangi | oh i trust redhat more |
| 21:29 | drojf | heh |
| 21:29 | rangi | i just dont like rpm as a packaging system |
| 21:29 | tcohen | you don't trust shuttleworth |
| 21:30 | rangi | exactly tcohen |
| 21:30 | even though ive flown in a helicopter with him | |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | you know the most interesting people. |
| 21:31 | rangi | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]/lca2006/DSC01941 |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | ha |
| 21:32 | rangi | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]hp/unsorted/photo <-- same conference |
| 21:32 | 15 points if you can name all 4 people | |
| 21:33 | jcamins | rangi: do we get 15 points if we name more than 4 people? |
| 21:33 | rangi | drojf: did i ever show you my iphone ? |
| 21:33 | tcohen | just two of them... |
| 21:34 | including you heh | |
| 21:34 | rangi | hehe |
| 21:34 | drojf | rangi: i don't think so |
| 21:34 | rangi | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]unsorted/DSC02487 |
| 21:34 | tcohen | alan? |
| 21:34 | drojf | lol |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 21:35 | pretty hard to fit in your pocket :) | |
| 21:35 | rangi | hehe yep |
| 21:35 | bag | well dpends on the pocket |
| 21:35 | rangi | i think its still in the garage somewhere |
| 21:35 | drojf | a nice ibackpack… |
| 21:35 | * wizzyrea | guesses bag has really big pants |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | *trousers |
| 21:35 | pianohacker | hahahaha |
| 21:35 | bag | heh |
| 21:36 | pianohacker | I was actually just talking with larryb about that. Just got the droid dna, which is gorgeous (441 ppi screen!) but kind of huge |
| 21:36 | (newphonenewphonenewphone) | |
| 21:36 | bag | my pockets come with wheelbarrows |
| 21:37 | rangi | tcohen: me, linus, paul 'rusty' russel (wrote netfilter and iptables), and jon 'maddog' hall |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | he looks like a maddog |
| 21:37 | bag | I can only "id" two in the picture |
| 21:37 | rangi | he's pretty cool |
| 21:37 | http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/[…]turings-birthday/ | |
| 21:37 | bag | oh jon hall - doh |
| 21:38 | that's easy now :P | |
| 21:38 | rangi | heh |
| 21:39 | best advertisment for why proprietary software is bad | |
| 21:39 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]on06/1121748177_l | |
| 21:40 | 2006 was an interesting year, i had linus torvalds come to my koha talk, and first kohacon ever | |
| 21:40 | bag | they'd end up with some guy wearing glasses holding his hands together looking at the podium? |
| 21:40 | cait | rangi: very cool :) |
| 21:41 | drojf | i think it's about FOSS people being reckless drivers |
| 21:41 | rangi | yep :) |
| 21:42 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]2006/kohafiji/usp oh and koha training in fiji | |
| 21:43 | it all went downhill in 2007 tho | |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | bug 10615 - do any of you think this might be confusing to librarians? It's quite a big change from the old way |
| 21:47 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move saved reports action items into dropdown menu |
| 21:47 | rangi | ill try to have a look later |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | oh no worries. it's one of those "hide in a dropdown things that used to be on the screen type bugs. |
| 21:48 | rangi | oh |
| 21:49 | cait | wizzyrea: i would like to know how it looks without javascript |
| 21:49 | i think the links might have been better accessible | |
| 21:50 | * tcohen | is in fear: a "127MB space left on /" message appeared |
| 21:50 | mtompset | OH MY! |
| 21:50 | rm -rf /tmp ;) | |
| 21:50 | No, don't do that, there may be something useful in there. | |
| 21:50 | tcohen | i'll delete some humble bundle games i don't use |
| 21:51 | mtompset | Save the video games! |
| 21:51 | tcohen | heh, they are in the home NAS |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | I think I'm going to suggest a column with a header of ACTIONS that has the dropdown in it |
| 21:52 | tcohen | i'm stuck in one "Closure" level, i'll keep it |
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| 21:53 | drojf | 'send an "account details" notice to a newly created user' <-- any chance somebody would bring their GPG public key when opening an account and request the account details email to be encrypted? |
| 21:54 | cait | probably not likely. we shouldn't have that email really |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | yea, we should email a secure link back to the catalogue to allow them to set their password |
| 21:54 | drojf | you mean no email at all? |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | instead of sending the email. |
| 21:54 | drojf | that sounds reasonable |
| 21:55 | rangi | yeah never send passwords, people never change them |
| 21:55 | drojf | i did not know the password is in that email |
| 21:55 | rangi | im pretty sure i spazzed out when that was added |
| 21:55 | cait | it can be |
| 21:55 | i think youmissed it and spazzed out when i told you it existed ;) | |
| 21:55 | drojf | maybe i'll lose the whole featur on the way to email encryption then :P |
| 21:55 | * cait | remembers that |
| 21:56 | drojf | *feature |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | no that would be not good. It could definitely be improved. |
| 21:57 | drojf | by commenting out the line with the password could be a start ^^ |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | that would be the obvious place ^.^ |
| 21:57 | rangi | yeah sending clear text passwords should never ever be done |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | but I would like to see a mechanism by which borrowers can reset their own passwords |
| 21:58 | or set them in the first place. | |
| 21:58 | rangi | also finishing of the bcrypt work too |
| 21:59 | pianohacker | rangi: for Koha login? |
| 21:59 | wizzyrea | yes, that first probably |
| 21:59 | rangi | both of those should be fairly high priority |
| 21:59 | yep pianohacker | |
| 21:59 | there are patches waiting signoff | |
| 21:59 | i think | |
| 21:59 | pianohacker | rangi: excellent! Very good idea. Who did the work? |
| 21:59 | drojf | i remember i had to go and _say_ the password i want to the librarian in the lower saxony state library. that was the weirdest thing ever. |
| 22:00 | rangi | bug 9611 |
| 22:00 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt |
| 22:00 | rangi | catalyst, so we cant sign off or qa |
| 22:00 | hint hint | |
| 22:00 | cait | :) |
| 22:00 | number 60! | |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | 60? |
| 22:01 | cait | 60 patches in the queue |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | oh we are down to 60? |
| 22:01 | cait | as motivation for me to bring it down to 30 again ;) |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | ha |
| 22:01 | cait | we were down to 34 last sunday |
| 22:01 | in the signed off | |
| 22:01 | the needs sign off... is a different story | |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | ohh |
| 22:01 | yea it is :/ | |
| 22:01 | cait | *hint hint hint HINT* |
| 22:02 | rangi | so what it does is work with old passwords, all new ones are bcrypted |
| 22:02 | once its in, ill send another patch set | |
| 22:02 | so that when someone logs in with an old password | |
| 22:02 | its automagically converted to bcrypt | |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea | i like things that are automagic |
| 22:05 | cait | almost as good as real magic :) |
| 22:06 | pianohacker | What's srikanth's irc name? |
| 22:06 | rangi | srikanth |
| 22:07 | but he is on a different project now, so unlikely to be online | |
| 22:07 | cjh took over the patches | |
| 22:07 | pianohacker | cjh++ then |
| 22:07 | cait | cjh++ :) |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | cjh++ #for doing lots of things that are huge for koha |
| 22:10 | cait | yeah |
| 22:10 | true :) | |
| 22:11 | rangi | he's done lots of things that clients never pay for |
| 22:11 | cait | template toolkit |
| 22:11 | wahanui | well, template toolkit is apt-get install libtemplate-perl or http://tt2.org/ |
| 22:12 | mtompset | tcohen: Remember 906? |
| 22:13 | tcohen | yes |
| 22:13 | i recently deleted that branch on my local git :-P | |
| 22:13 | cait | bug 906 |
| 22:13 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=906 enhancement, P2, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , ISBN Check |
| 22:13 | tcohen | i found no convergence for a proper solution |
| 22:14 | drojf | will anyone ever want to add not only a GPG key for their first email address, but also for the second and the alternate one? |
| 22:14 | tcohen | why mtompset ? |
| 22:15 | mtompset | It's sitting at failed status. Just wondering if it should be left forever that way. ;) |
| 22:15 | rangi | drojf: perhaps |
| 22:15 | drojf | rangi: apart from you and me? :P |
| 22:15 | tcohen | the question is: what to do if we find an invalid isbn. |
| 22:16 | maybe a quick poll any time | |
| 22:16 | rangi | drojf: hmm probably not :) |
| 22:16 | drojf | i think i'll change the way they are added later and go with one key for now so it can be tested soon |
| 22:16 | tcohen | i tried two approaches, which weren't accepted |
| 22:16 | rangi | i think making it for the primary makes sense |
| 22:16 | yep | |
| 22:17 | tcohen | bbl |
| 22:17 | drojf | looks like it works mostly. de-hardcode the gpg path would be nice maybe |
| 22:17 | mtompset | drojf: Would you use a different GPG key for each one or the same for all of them? |
| 22:17 | drojf | mtompset: different addresses, different keys |
| 22:19 | mtompset | As for invalid ISBN: warning with a continue or cancel type options? |
| 22:19 | drojf | i'll have to build a package and see what it does on a fresh installation, but so far i think it will just work on debian and ubuntu. which would be cool |
| 22:19 | rangi | sweet |
| 22:19 | drojf | just work as in "out of the box", not in "only debian and ubuntu" |
| 22:19 | rangi | yeah |
| 22:36 | pianohacker | there are distros besides debian? |
| 22:36 | I thought we marked those as obsolete in 3.6 | |
| 22:37 | rangi | right off to yum cha |
| 22:37 | bbl | |
| 22:38 | cait | enjoy :) |
| 22:38 | cjh | morning |
| 22:42 | wizzyrea: it is really because catalyst was awesome and let me do cool things xD | |
| 22:43 | drojf | so sendshelf and sendbasket do their own emailing besides Letters.pm. that is a great idea. decentralize all the things! :/ |
| 22:44 | pianohacker | probably more incomplete centralization :P |
| 22:45 | drojf | i may be wrong but i think shelf and basket are not that old. i can understand why one would avoid dealing with Letters.pm… ;) |
| 22:46 | oh there is more | |
| 22:46 | some statistics cron jobs i have never heard of | |
| 22:46 | but they don't send to patrons so i won't care about that for now | |
| 22:47 | oh look, i wanted to go to bed 2 hous ago. that worked nicely | |
| 22:47 | hours even | |
| 22:48 | cait | go to bed now :) |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | drojf - the cart and list stuff emails to people that arent necessarily borrowers |
| 22:49 | drojf | Attached is the file of new materials statistics for the previous month. Please use this file to calculate the values for the adds spreadsheet.\n"; |
| 22:49 | my $attachfile = "addstats.csv"; | |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | so for example, you can send a list to someone you know nothing about |
| 22:49 | drojf | lolwut |
| 22:49 | ah right, thanks wizzyrea | |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | sounds like a 123 to me :P |
| 22:49 | cait | also might be weird to wait until the process message queue job is run for those |
| 22:50 | wizzyrea | yea, precisely. |
| 22:50 | I think ok to leave those emails out | |
| 22:50 | drojf | cait: only a part of the stuff in Letters.pm does that |
| 22:50 | our emailing is really messy | |
| 22:50 | cait | it is |
| 22:50 | wizzyrea | but might be nice to centralise it :P |
| 22:50 | cait | lots of karma for you if you can clean it up some ;) |
| 22:50 | wizzyrea | probably do your cleanup in a separate patch though >. |
| 22:50 | >.< | |
| 22:51 | drojf | maybe in some nice unemployed future ;) |
| 22:51 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 22:51 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 21.2°C (12:42 AM CEST on July 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:51 | drojf | too warm in here to sleep :( |
| 22:54 | cait | here too |
| 22:58 | wizzyrea | curious, did we recently stop using the "saved_reports" table in favor of the "saved_sql" table? |
| 22:59 | rather, what do we use the saved_reports table for? | |
| 23:01 | well never mind, looks like we're only using saved_sql for saved reports | |
| 23:01 | and that's just fine. | |
| 23:08 | pianohacker | bye all |
| 23:10 | cjh | ciao |
| 23:13 | drojf | good night #koha |
| 23:30 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 23:36 | cait | good night #koha |
| 23:36 | cait left #koha | |
| 23:57 | tcohen | what are the poll results mtompset ? |
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