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00:11 | tcohen | jcamins around? |
00:12 | what framework were u using to glue node + titan? | |
00:17 | mtompset | INSERT IGNORE is a MySQLism, correct? |
00:17 | pianohacker | probably |
00:17 | most of MySQLs useful commands are proprietary | |
00:17 | good night all | |
00:17 | * mtompset | chuckles. |
00:18 | mtompset | Good night, pianohacker. |
00:18 | tcohen | night pianohacker |
00:19 | jcamins | tcohen: node-gremlin. |
00:19 | tcohen: sorry, gremlin-node. | |
00:19 | tcohen | thanks jcamins |
00:20 | jcamins | tcohen: A/B testing + random graph database tests: https://github.com/biblionarra[…]ebsite_ab_testing |
00:20 | tcohen | got interested in the subject, and wanted to see how could it fit in our infrastructure |
00:20 | oh, thanks! | |
00:20 | jcamins | In Koha's, or in UNC's? |
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00:20 | jcamins | 'Cause it couldn't fit at all in Koha's infrastructure. |
00:20 | tcohen | heh, of course |
00:21 | we have node around in our infrastructure | |
00:21 | we use it to build our webservices proxy | |
00:21 | to couple most of our systems | |
00:22 | jcamins | What you really need is a graph-based discovery layer! |
00:22 | And what do you know, I'm making one! | |
00:23 | mtompset | Where is druthb_away to complain about patch pimping type activities. ;) |
00:25 | tcohen | is gremlin your query language? |
00:25 | i'll be very interested in following your work | |
00:25 | jcamins | Yeah. |
00:26 | https://github.com/tinkerpop/gremlin/wiki | |
00:26 | * jcamins | will be too! :P |
00:26 | tcohen | :-D |
00:26 | gotta run: dinner time | |
00:26 | jcamins | Enjoy. |
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00:55 | mtompset | There are so many system preferences! |
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01:04 | mtompset | Greetings, dcook. :) |
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01:04 | mtompset | What fun things are you playing with today? |
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01:04 | dcook | hey mtompset |
01:04 | wahanui | rumour has it mtompset is disliking the silent warnings flooding his error logs |
01:04 | dcook | Mmm, good question |
01:05 | Trying to figure out how... | |
01:05 | mtompset | Actually, the warnings this time are installer warnings. :) |
01:05 | dcook | To support Koha that's not on packages and Koha that is on packages |
01:05 | Simultaneously | |
01:05 | mtompset | On the same server?! |
01:06 | dcook | Nopes |
01:06 | The packages one is a remote server | |
01:06 | Luckily, with that one, the remote access freezes when it comes from our office | |
01:06 | So I have to remote on through a laptop using 4G | |
01:06 | *le sigh* | |
01:08 | mtompset | Well, if you do a git installation and do the perl Make... and make and make test steps... you can answer STANDARD. |
01:08 | dcook | ... |
01:08 | mtompset | I suspect then that you could tarball up the /usr/share/koha directory and replace the non-git version's. |
01:09 | But I haven't ever tried to do something like that. | |
01:09 | dcook | Yeah...that's the idea that presents itself, but I suspect there will be problems there |
01:09 | * dcook | would rather just use packages for all |
01:10 | mtompset | That is the point of packages. :) |
01:11 | dcook | It would be great if we could build RPMs as well as DEBs from the same source.. |
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01:12 | mtompset | That would be quite an undertaking, but potentially useful. |
01:12 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1274 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1271 9 hr 45 min ago) |
01:13 | gmcharlt | dcook: know anybody who would be interested in helping build RPMs? |
01:13 | mtompset | Though, a better first step would be to have an RPM repo of the missing CPAN libraries in a default CentOS, RedHat, Fedora, or something else RPMish. |
01:13 | Then you could at least install the tarball more easily. | |
01:14 | dcook | gmcharlt: Alas, I do not. I'd be interested in learning, but somewhat strapped for time and knowledge at this point. |
01:15 | mtompset | I played with cpan2rpm or something like that on CentOS, but I'm not sure I was doing it the best way. |
01:15 | Sadly, due to project focus constraints, I can't offer to help, though I would like to do so. | |
01:15 | dcook | gmcharlt: Personally, I'd rather just switch to Debian from Suse and save myself the headache, but...I'm sure others would find RPMs useful too |
01:15 | mtompset: I guess that's the problem. Too much work, not enough time/people with time. | |
01:17 | gmcharlt | yeah -- there are plenty of potential users who are mandated to use RHEL-based distros (or RHEL itself -- and of course, RHEL5's age really presents problems), but thus far that doesn't seem to have translated into folks will to put in enough effort to maintain it |
01:17 | dcook | That does seem to be the current state of affairs :/ |
01:18 | mtompset | CentOS had the least number of available packages in the default repositories. I would suspect it would make a good OS to decide what CPAN modules to RPM up. :) |
01:18 | (last time I checked) | |
02:01 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
02:01 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (11:30 AM EST on June 28, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
02:01 | dcook | Light rain showers? |
02:01 | wahanui | Light rain showers are not so light |
02:02 | dcook | Exactly, wahanui. Exactly. |
02:02 | Lunch indoors it is. | |
02:24 | eythian: You around? | |
02:24 | eythian | yarp |
02:24 | dcook | Mind fielding a few questions about packages? |
02:25 | eythian | sure. |
02:25 | druthb | o/ |
02:25 | dcook | hey ya druthb :) |
02:26 | Let's say that I have a 3.12.00 instance of Koha installed via packages | |
02:26 | If I want to upgrade to 3.12.01, I do an apt-get update and apt-get install koha-common? | |
02:27 | I assume that overwrites everything (except config generated via koha-create, of course) | |
02:27 | eythian | yep |
02:27 | dcook | Is there any way of doing more incremental upgrades with packages where only the "changed" files are overwritten with new files? |
02:27 | eythian | yeah, stuff in /etc won't be touched without your approval, but everything else will be overwritten. |
02:27 | nope. | |
02:28 | dcook | Hmm, how long does it usually take to build packages? |
02:28 | eythian | modifying files on the server is a bad idea because it means they're not in version control. |
02:28 | dcook | Wait...does that mean that only /usr/share/koha is overwritten? |
02:29 | eythian | depends a lot on your machine. ~5-10 minutes I guess on my fairly good desktop. |
02:29 | dcook | Ah, I thought it was considerably longer than that. That's not too bad. |
02:29 | eythian | though you could do it faster at the expense of being less rigorous easily enough. |
02:29 | hmm, yeah, it'd only be everything under /usr. | |
02:30 | dcook | So I assume the control file says if koha-common already exists, just overwrite /usr? |
02:30 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
02:30 | Project Koha_master build #1274: FIXED in 1 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1274/ | |
02:30 | eythian | no, that's just how packages work on debian |
02:30 | /etc is special, everything else isn't. | |
02:31 | dcook | So after an upgrade, you'd need to reindex |
02:31 | And your backups would be splatted if they're in var? | |
02:31 | eythian | not really. |
02:31 | no | |
02:31 | dcook | Oh wait, durr |
02:31 | eythian | it doesn't remove things that are already there |
02:31 | dcook | But doesn't it remove /usr/share/Koha? |
02:32 | eythian | no |
02:32 | it deploys to there, overwriting things in the process | |
02:32 | it doesn't remove anything. | |
02:32 | also, the index and such are all in /var | |
02:33 | dcook | Right |
02:33 | mtompset | nengard++ # replying while out of the office. :) |
02:33 | dcook | So /etc is special. /usr is overwritten. What happens with var? |
02:33 | Is var created via koha-create, or does install koha-common create the initial directories and koha-create just creates sub-directories for individual instances? | |
02:33 | eythian | nothing really. The only thing the packages do with that is make sure the right directories exist. |
02:34 | dcook | Mmm, k |
02:34 | eythian | I can't remember. |
02:34 | I think that koha-create-dirs ensures that everything exists, but the packages may do it as well | |
02:34 | dcook | Well, the packages create them, so I would hope so, eh? |
02:35 | Mmm, unless they don't | |
02:35 | I see what you're saying | |
02:35 | eythian | ah, it does |
02:35 | the package creates /var/{lib,lock,log,spool} | |
02:35 | err | |
02:35 | /var/{lib,lock,log,spool}/koha | |
02:36 | dcook | and run, apparently |
02:36 | eythian | nope |
02:36 | dcook | According to README.Debian |
02:36 | eythian | it's not in koha-common.dirs |
02:36 | koha-create-dirs does that though | |
02:36 | dcook | Does koha-create-dirs get called by koha-create as well? |
02:37 | eythian | I think so. Also the init script, I think. Just in case something has changed. |
02:37 | dcook | Neato |
02:38 | In a way, it's too bad that the whole source needs to be packaged up and used to overwrite the current code | |
02:38 | Yet, like you say, if you don't do that...it's tougher to keep version control | |
02:38 | But wouldn't doing a diff of the files potentially tell you what's been changed and only those need to be changed? | |
02:39 | I guess that doesn't count as version control though as there is no way to rewind a diff | |
02:39 | You would just be overwriting, overwriting, overwriting... | |
02:39 | Hoping that your diff is doing a good enough job | |
02:39 | eythian | yeah, that's a terrible idea :) |
02:40 | we maintain a set of git branches that we build packages from. | |
02:42 | mtompset | dcook - you could write a script to tarball the directory up with a timestamp, and then replace it. Then another one could restore one tarball over the existing one. ;) |
02:42 | But yes, bad version control. :) | |
02:44 | eythian | or make your own packages. I think that's easier :) |
02:44 | mtompset | Yes, but do it the hard way for fun. ;) |
02:47 | eythian | wahanui: draw me a picture |
02:47 | wahanui | eythian: excuse me? |
02:47 | eythian | hmm |
02:47 | wahanui: picture | |
02:47 | wahanui | a picture of eythian: http://rasher.dk/y/eythian |
02:47 | eythian | t/hee |
02:49 | mtompset | musical flashback: http://youtu.be/XoKFBjd5-F8 (Can You Picture That?) |
02:51 | dcook | eythian: I like the idea of building my our own packages :) |
02:51 | So a set of git branches so you support different versions of Koha? | |
02:52 | eythian | more for different client customisations |
02:52 | dcook | Mm, that's more what I meant |
02:52 | Neato | |
02:52 | Ever run into any troubles with deploying packages? | |
02:53 | I have a package install at home, and I'm setting one up on a VM as we speak, but I can't really put them through their paces without actual users and data | |
02:54 | eythian | no, debian packaging is pretty robust. |
02:55 | 99% of the time it'll fail to build if something is wrong, rather than deploy | |
02:56 | dcook | Makes sense to me |
03:02 | Thanks for the info, eythian :) | |
03:02 | eythian++ | |
03:02 | eythian | no worries |
03:05 | dcook | have fun, mtompset |
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04:00 | mtj | hi peeps, whats the best approach to dealing with localized/custom updatedatabase.pl entries |
04:00 | dcook | wb cait1 |
04:00 | mtj: Good question :) | |
04:00 | mtj | specifically, handling 'localised' version numbering? |
04:02 | mtompset | why would you have localized version numbering? |
04:03 | I'm asking, because I just spent a couple hours, adding some friendly warning catching code into updatedatabase.pl :) | |
04:03 | mtj | ...the way ive been doing it, so-far, is using a the 4th minor digit in the version |
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04:06 | mtompset | But why would you have a localized version of the numbering? |
04:06 | mtj | coz i need to add a local change |
04:06 | mtompset | Is this some sort of localized patch that will never make it into Koha? |
04:07 | eythian | mtj: it just works if you add it to the 4th dp or so |
04:07 | mtj | cool eythian - it does seem to be working ok, like that |
04:07 | mtompset | I think the extra digits to the last number should work without breaking things (at least in updatedatabase.pl) |
04:09 | mtj | mtompset, i have a situ where i am pulling patches not yet accepted for master, into a test koha |
04:10 | these patches have no version-number assigned to then, yet | |
04:10 | mtompset | Ah. |
04:11 | mtj | if my koha is version 3.10.000, i *could* just call this patch .001 |
04:11 | but, then, what happens when the offical .001 comes along? oops :/ | |
04:11 | eythian | why not call it 3.10.000.999, that might work |
04:12 | I think it works anyway though | |
04:12 | mtj | ah, yeah - i hadnt tried that even |
04:13 | thats a really nice way of doing it | |
04:14 | mtompset | eythian: But what if mtj does multiple patches at the same time? |
04:14 | 999 works great for a single patch case. | |
04:14 | But I would think an extra digit would would better for multiple patches. | |
04:14 | mtj | easy… just 3.10.000.001, 3.10.000.002, etc... |
04:16 | i think 999 local patches between offical koha db changes, is overkill here… but still, i get the point | |
04:16 | mtompset | Actually, for a single patch, aren't you supposed to use XXX? |
04:19 | mtj | thats only a req. for submitting a patch to kc.org |
04:20 | mtompset | But why not use the same for a patch that is localized? |
04:22 | mtj | afaik, koha's installer will attempt to apply that .XXX patch every time |
04:23 | fine for testing a patch… not great for a prod system | |
04:39 | mtompset | not everytime. |
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04:55 | mtj | yeah… but more than once - and thats a no-go for my situation |
05:00 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
05:00 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 33.0°C (10:00 AM PKT on June 28, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Falling). |
05:00 | Oak | Guten morgen cait1 |
05:00 | kia ora #koha | |
05:01 | mtompset | Greetings, Oak. :) |
05:01 | Oak | heya mtompset :) |
05:02 | cait1 | hi all |
05:03 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. |
05:03 | Greetings, cait1. That one is very important. ;) | |
05:09 | cait | morning |
05:16 | dcook | Quick debian question |
05:17 | What is the name of the DB in SQL for a new instance? | |
05:17 | koha_newinstance? | |
05:17 | mtompset | in the packages, I believe so. |
05:17 | dcook | Cool. Thanks. |
05:22 | mtompset | Can't seem to figure out what the forbidden patterns are. GRRRR... |
05:22 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Any ideas on how to fix these?" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/105 |
05:27 | mtj | s/IndependantBranches/IndependentBranches/ |
05:27 | mtompset | It was a typo that get corrected in a later version of Koha. |
05:28 | mtj | yep |
05:28 | mtompset | So what in the QA tool makes it check for typos? |
05:30 | mtj | some code, i assume |
05:31 | ./QohA/File/Perl.pm:156: {pattern => qr{IndependantBranches},... | |
05:32 | mtompset | Ah, so both a good and bad thing. |
05:42 | A little obfuscation, and all is good. :) | |
05:49 | druthb | o/ |
05:51 | mtompset | Hello, druthb. |
05:51 | druthb | Hi, mtompset. :) |
05:52 | mtompset | Time for sleep now. I got my updatedatabases.pl to qa validate cleanly. :) |
05:52 | perlcritic level -4. (one better than 5) | |
05:52 | test my problems later. :) | |
05:58 | Have a good day (24 hour period), everyone. | |
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06:05 | dcook | @later tell cait Good idea :) |
06:05 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
06:11 | drnoe | hello #koha. it's late night for me and I just move a db over to server where they named the home dir kohaadmin (i have no idea why). naturally koha is not happy when I search. |
06:11 | I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/koha/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slimUtils.xsl" compilation error: file unknown-55f20a0 element import | |
06:11 | I just cannot figure out for the life of me what line 220 is reverncing. I am noew to koha, and these C4 .pm files are greek to me " $stylesheet->{$xslfilename} = $xslt->parse_stylesheet($style_doc);" | |
06:12 | * magnuse | waves |
06:18 | drnoe | cd .. |
06:19 | magnuse | :-) |
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06:28 | alex_a | bonjour |
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06:37 | reiveune | hello |
06:38 | magnuse | who can give the wiki a kick? |
06:38 | let's look it up on the wiki! | |
06:38 | but then again, maybe not | |
06:39 | @wunder boo | |
06:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
06:39 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
06:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on June 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
06:39 | magnuse | hah! |
06:39 | @wunder hyltebruk | |
06:39 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
06:39 | magnuse | pf |
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06:54 | asaurat | hi! |
06:55 | magnuse | bonjour! |
06:56 | matts | hi ! |
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07:08 | dcook | bonne fin de semaine oceanic folks |
07:08 | Hope everyone else enjoys their friday :) | |
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08:20 | wizzyrea | drnoe - are you using a custom xslt? |
08:21 | anyway, your problem is that the xslt file on the server can't find your slimutils - the path is defined on line 11 | |
08:23 | update the path to be the new location and it should work. | |
08:32 | Joubu | @pole support: je suis en intervention sur la preprod de Paris8 pour la journée |
08:32 | huginn | Joubu: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
08:32 | Joubu | oops, wrong channel, sorry |
08:33 | * wizzyrea | hopes your intervention works out well |
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08:49 | * magnuse | waves to wizzyrea |
08:52 | wizzyrea | oh hey |
08:52 | wahanui | bidet, wizzyrea |
08:52 | wizzyrea | poo on you too,wahanui |
08:52 | wahanui | wizzyrea: huh? |
08:53 | wizzyrea | you're the one who brought up bidets. |
08:54 | how is everyone today | |
08:56 | magnuse | not too shabby |
08:56 | in the mood for pizza and a weekend | |
08:57 | and a bit of summer holiday soon! | |
08:58 | wizzyrea | ooh summer holiday! |
08:58 | * wizzyrea | had pizza earlier |
09:04 | wizzyrea | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]-supposed-to-work |
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09:06 | magnuse | wizzyrea: nice |
09:07 | wizzyrea | D-OR is my favorite blog |
09:13 | magnuse | oops, there went minutes of my life... ;-) |
09:13 | wizzyrea | i know. and half of it was spent giggling eh |
09:13 | or nodding in sympathy | |
09:14 | magnuse | yup |
09:14 | so it was time well spent :-) | |
09:16 | didn't someone talk about some developments for "home bound patrons" a while back? | |
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09:19 | magnuse | ah bug 5670 |
09:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5670 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , Housebound Readers Module |
10:00 | wizzyrea | wow my git bz, even with the new branch is pretty impressively broken |
10:01 | attaching just sends me back the page as html :/ | |
10:03 | rangi | works for me |
10:03 | wizzyrea | weird. oh well I'll figure it out. |
10:04 | rangi | the git-bz you are using is the updated one eh? i checked out the new branch but forgot i hadn't symlinked but had copied the file, so it was still using the old one |
10:04 | wizzyrea | was that how the |
10:04 | other one failed? | |
10:04 | you have a good point I will check | |
10:05 | rangi | yep if it talks about tokens |
10:06 | wizzyrea | ah yep, I couldn't see the top because not enough backlog - but I see the suspicious actions thing now |
10:06 | thanks for the pointer | |
10:06 | rangi | last commit should be to do with utf8 |
10:07 | wizzyrea | hm yep it seems right |
10:09 | rangi | do a which git-bz |
10:10 | wizzyrea | :) beat you to that |
10:13 | that's better - I just grabbed a whole new copy and redid the lot | |
10:13 | rangi | :) |
10:20 | wizzyrea | man tons of unimarc patches |
10:21 | rangi | yep |
10:21 | magnuse | yup |
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10:26 | magnuse | Oak |
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10:54 | wizzyrea | how inbiggerating. http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5292/3ndx.png |
10:56 | Oak | magnuse |
10:57 | magnuse | Oak |
10:57 | Oak | magnuse |
10:57 | :) | |
10:57 | magnuse | :-) |
10:59 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
10:59 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 37.0°C (3:00 PM PKT on June 28, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Falling). |
10:59 | Oak | hmm :-| |
10:59 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
10:59 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on June 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). |
10:59 | magnuse | yay :-) |
10:59 | Oak | 19 sounds very nice |
11:00 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
11:00 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:00 PM NZST on June 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
11:00 | magnuse | Oak: it is! :-) |
11:00 | Oak | the age 19 was also nice. 9 was even better! |
11:01 | magnuse | hehe |
11:01 | Oak | :) yup. |
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12:21 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10386: improvements to VirtualShelves.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13eb226f477cf9c4e> |
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12:26 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
12:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1275 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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13:02 | tcohen | morning #koha |
13:03 | oleonard | Hi tcohen |
13:07 | magnuse | hiya tcohen and oleonard |
13:08 | tcohen | hola magnuse |
13:16 | oleonard | Floating toolbar working now if I arbitrarily add 20px to its position: http://screencast.com/t/L9H9X2yIRrn |
13:16 | Fixed: Yay! Don't know why it works: Boo! | |
13:16 | (at least, working in FF, Chrome and IE10) | |
13:19 | tcohen | oleonard++ |
13:20 | oleonard | Not karma-worthy yet, but I'd really like to see it working well. Not sure how else to offer those controls to mobile users in a non-annoying way. |
13:38 | CCSR theme doesn't give you links to the next page of search results in the mobile view? | |
13:40 | magnuse | that sounds like a noticeable omission... |
13:41 | * magnuse | calls it a week |
13:42 | oleonard | Not noticeable enough I guess. Also no link to advanced search, no link back to the home page |
13:44 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1275: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1275/ |
13:44 | Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10386: improvements to VirtualShelves.t | |
13:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10386 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , UT: VirtualShelves.t needs some more adjustments |
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13:45 | oleonard | It is interesting how the CCSR theme handles tables in the narrow view though |
13:51 | maximep | magically ? :p |
13:51 | oleonard | On the other hand, maybe it's just too constraining to use tables for data like the logged-in user's list of checked out items, overdues, and holds |
13:54 | Of course we'd lose sorting... I wonder if the patrons really care... | |
13:58 | * tcohen | thinks its time to catch up with the master commits |
14:03 | oleonard | Clever that the CCSR theme uses CSS content generation to add labels to table cells in the narrow view, but it's completely non-translatable |
14:06 | maximep | yeah, we didn't find a better way to do it :/ |
14:07 | oleonard | maximep: Was it a requirement that the theme work without JS? |
14:08 | maximep | pretty sure we used javascript for some stuff |
14:08 | id have to ask to have more details | |
14:08 | oleonard | I'm thinking maybe we could use JS to pull the table header test and add labels to the cells that way |
14:09 | s/test/text | |
14:12 | maximep | afaik u can't do adaptative js |
14:12 | can you ? | |
14:13 | maybe you could add the label, hide them and just show them in the css | |
14:13 | that's probably how we should have done it | |
14:14 | oleonard | That would work too. Lots of extra markup though... Not sure how much we should worry about it. |
14:15 | maximep: I'm using a jquery plugin that does responsive js | |
14:15 | http://wicky.nillia.ms/enquire.js/ | |
14:16 | maximep | oh, cool. I wonder if it takes a ton of cpu when you quickly resize |
14:17 | oleonard | I don't know. I also wonder just how much resizing is done in the real world. I would think that few people would be resizing between phone size and desktop size often. |
14:17 | maximep | yeah, good point |
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14:36 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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14:47 | pug | Hi guys ... |
14:48 | is there a documentation that describes how the maintenance branches (3.8.x, 3.10.x etc.) are placed vis-avis the master ? | |
14:48 | any graphic that can explain that plan? | |
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15:01 | tcohen | is jenkins running? |
15:01 | jenkins_koha: start 3.12.x | |
15:01 | jenkins_koha | tcohen did you mean me? Unknown command 'start' |
15:01 | Use '!jenkins help' to get help! | |
15:02 | tcohen | !jenkins help |
15:02 | jenkins_koha | Available commands: |
15:02 | abort <job> - specify which job to abort | |
15:02 | alias [<alias> [<command>]] - defines a new alias, deletes one or lists all existing aliases | |
15:02 | botsnack [<snack>] - om nom nom | |
15:02 | build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period | |
15:02 | cb - list jobs which are currently in progress | |
15:02 | comment <job> <build-#> <comment> - adds a description to a build | |
15:02 | currentlyBuilding - list jobs which are currently in progress | |
15:02 | h [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
15:02 | health [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
15:02 | jobs [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
15:02 | q - show the state of the build queue | |
15:02 | queue - show the state of the build queue | |
15:02 | s [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
15:02 | schedule <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period | |
15:02 | status [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
15:02 | testresult [<job>|-v <view>] - show the test results of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
15:02 | userstat <username> - prints information about a Jenkins user | |
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15:02 | tcohen | gmcharlt: are the jenkins hooks still set? |
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15:05 | mtompset | pug, I don't know how to answer your question, but I do know that the git repository has tags (starting with v) for each version. I suppose master just happens to be the HEAD of the git repository? |
15:05 | Greetings, tcohen alex_a pianohacker pug. | |
15:06 | pianohacker | hi pug! |
15:06 | alex_a | bonjour mtompset |
15:11 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #57 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
15:12 | reiveune | bye |
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15:25 | mtompset | Is there a MARC export from Koha? |
15:26 | I'd like to export my data, empty my database, git checkout a super earlier version, web installer koha, import the data, git checkout my patch, and test. | |
15:28 | tcohen | in the Tools section mtompset |
15:53 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #57: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/57/ |
15:53 | * Galen Charlton: bug 6281: add test case for sorting LC call numbers correctly | |
15:53 | * Galen Charlton: bug 6281: introduce LC::CallNumber::LC for sorting LC call numbers | |
15:53 | * Galen Charlton: bug 6281: add Library::CallNumber::LC as a required Perl dependency | |
15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6281 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Bug in LCC sort routine |
15:53 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: bug 9370: test case for splitting LC call number |
15:53 | * Galen Charlton: bug 9370: add invalid call number to LC splitting test cases | |
15:53 | * Galen Charlton: bug 9370: improve splitting of LC call numbers for labels | |
15:53 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10297 - categorycode and branchcode should be required when adding patrons | |
15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9370 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , use Library::CallNumber::LC when splitting LC call numbers for spine labels |
15:53 | jenkins_koha | * Juan Romay Sieira: Bug 10443 - Table borrower_files does not exists in kohastructure.sql file |
15:53 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10443: (follow-up) make sure borrower_files has FK constraint | |
15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10297 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , categorycode and branchcode should be required when adding patrons |
15:53 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10443: DBRev 3.12.01.001 - make sure borrower_files exists |
15:53 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10458: t/Z3950.t should be removed too | |
15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10443 major, P5 - low, ---, juan.sieira, Pushed to Stable , Table borrower_files does not exists in kohastructure.sql file |
15:53 | jenkins_koha | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10458: Remove obsolete Z3950 module and test |
15:53 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10444 - In advanced search(more), [+] and [-] should behave like links on hover | |
15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10458 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Remove obsolete Z3950 module and test |
15:53 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10444 - (CCSR followup) In advanced search(more), [+] and [-] should behave like links on hover |
15:53 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10444: Fix prevent the default action on click | |
15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10444 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , In advanced search(more), [+] and [-] should behave like links on hover |
15:58 | tcohen | woot |
16:01 | pug | mtompset -- |
16:01 | let me rephrase my question then .. | |
16:02 | when I clone the git ... the 3.8.x, 3.10.x are the maintenance branches, right? | |
16:02 | pianohacker | correct |
16:04 | pug | so once 3.8.0 is released , all bug fixes related to that release go to 3.8.x , right? |
16:04 | and the devlopment on the master goes on independently | |
16:04 | pianohacker | Yes |
16:05 | pug | Then Im unable to understand the follow-- I cloned a fresh git .. and a diff 3.12.x..3.10.x is blank |
16:06 | they seem to be pointing to the same commits .. | |
16:06 | how is that? | |
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16:07 | oleonard | pug: "git diff origin/3.12.x origin/3.10.x" ? |
16:07 | druthb | pug: Style tip: don't use two minus signs in a row in here…it looks like giving bad karma to something, to the assortment of bots around here. |
16:07 | @karma mtompset | |
16:07 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "mtompset" has been increased 27 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 25. |
16:08 | pianohacker | pug: Running a git diff origin/3.12.x..origin/3.10.x shows a number of commits on my system |
16:09 | pug | druthb - ok on the karma system, thanks |
16:09 | pianohacker | there is a difference between 3.12.x and origin/3.12.x; the former is a local branch that may be tracking the upstream one, whereas origin/3.12.x is the lastest fetched copy of what's on the git server |
16:09 | pug++ | |
16:09 | druthb | you're welcome, pug. :) |
16:09 | pianohacker | ^ Is how you increase someone's karma |
16:11 | pug | pianohacker - you are right. they do . I think i botched up something - |
16:11 | handt tried with origin/ before | |
16:11 | thanks | |
16:11 | pianohacker | Possibly. If you want a local tracking branch, the usual procedure is git checkout -b 3.12.x origin/3.12.x |
16:12 | Then if you have the 3.12.x branch checked out, you can update it to the latest using git pull | |
16:12 | pug | ah right - ok - got it |
16:13 | thanks | |
16:13 | so I want to give you karma for this I say - druthb^ ? | |
16:13 | druthb | plus-plus. |
16:13 | pug++ | |
16:13 | oleonard | druthb++ |
16:14 | druthb | pianohacker++ |
16:14 | tcohen | how do I match a tab (\t) in vim? i seem to have forgotten.. |
16:14 | pug | alright guys - druthb++ pianohacker++ |
16:14 | druthb | Thanx, pug! |
16:14 | pianohacker | tcohen: If \t isn't working, try ^V^I |
16:15 | tcohen | i want to substitute \t(.*) with \t\($1\) |
16:17 | pianohacker | <Ctrl-V><Ctrl-I>, that is |
16:18 | oleonard | I thought pianohacker was giving us the happy owl: ~|^V^|~ |
16:18 | tcohen | %s/\t\(.*\)/\t(\1)/g |
16:18 | pianohacker | heh |
16:18 | vim++ | |
16:19 | tcohen | vim++ |
16:23 | pianohacker | oleonard: my god, have you read the latest firebug changelog? https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012[…]-11-new-features/ amazing stuff |
16:23 | and, come to think of it, is there anyway for firebug loading not to take a good few seconds each time it's opened? | |
16:26 | oleonard | More RAM? Stop running any other programs besides Firefox? :P |
16:28 | pianohacker | heh, don't think those are the issue, but ya never know :) |
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16:44 | maximep | yeah, firebug slows down everything so much that you need to only enable it when needed :/ |
16:46 | pianohacker | that's been my experience... |
16:46 | but it's _so_ nice | |
16:46 | the built-in developer tools are just missing some very nice features | |
16:47 | maximep | really getting better quickly |
16:47 | trying to switch to using the built in for some stuff | |
16:47 | so much faster | |
16:48 | pianohacker | yeah |
16:48 | maximep | but almost everyone here switched to chrome |
16:48 | pianohacker | heh, yeah. chrome's okay, but I can't customize it enough to fit my workflow |
16:48 | maximep | I need tab groups... there's extension to do it in chrome, but it's not the same |
16:49 | I have 23 tab groups for the 23 projects I currently work on | |
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16:49 | pianohacker | mah lord. 23 projects? |
16:49 | maximep | well, I pretty much never close a tab |
16:50 | it would probably takes 32424243 megs of ram in chrome :p | |
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16:53 | cait-m | hi #koha |
16:54 | maximep | hi cait-m |
16:55 | cait-m | hi maximep |
16:57 | pianohacker | maximep: I approve! I use tree-style tabs to a similar end, my largest sessions got up into the 250-tab range |
16:58 | maximep | nice |
16:58 | hmmm never tought of using tree-style to do the same | |
17:00 | pianohacker | I started running into some annoying CPU-nomming bugs with it |
17:00 | but it's a fantastic extension | |
17:01 | Also fabtabs, herpderp and vimperator | |
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17:49 | drojf | good evening #koha |
17:50 | cait | good evening drojf |
17:51 | drojf | hi cait |
17:52 | tcohen | TmplTokenizer.pm is way too complex given the task |
17:53 | pianohacker | agreed |
17:56 | drojf | so, Is {from_name} our friend? |
17:58 | cait | ? |
18:00 | drojf | there was a junk message on the mailing list |
18:04 | cait | ah |
18:06 | drojf | looks like it uses the email adress of a real listee as a name, it's the second message already |
18:06 | and the url has a 'invitername' with the first name of the real person. that's odd. maybe he got some infection? | |
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18:08 | drojf | oh no, i played "touch the chili, touch your nose" ^^ |
19:11 | mtompset | What?! Why did pug decrease my karma?! |
19:12 | tcohen | @karma mtompset |
19:12 | huginn | tcohen: Karma for "mtompset" has been increased 27 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 25. |
19:12 | * oleonard | bids mtompset good morning and offers him some breakfast |
19:12 | mtompset | It's afternoon, actually. I just don't usually get on the channel till later. |
19:13 | I'm in Eastern. | |
19:13 | (timezone) | |
19:13 | oleonard | mtompset: I was referring to the fact that it seems you have just woken up ;) |
19:15 | mtompset | druthb++ |
19:15 | * oleonard | quits for the day |
19:15 | mtompset | vim++ #way better than emacs. ;) |
19:15 | oleonard | See you later #koha |
19:17 | druthb | :P |
19:17 | @karma | |
19:18 | huginn | druthb: Highest karma: "rangi" (842), "oleonard" (722), and "jcamins" (602). Lowest karma: "<!" (-115), "failed" (-103), and "ie" (-96). You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 2546. |
19:18 | druthb | @most increased |
19:18 | huginn | druthb: "rangi": 849, "oleonard": 727, "jcamins": 604, "cait": 422, "wizzyrea": 416, "gmcharlt": 415, "chris_n": 315, "kf": 295, "paul_p": 280, "sekjal": 247, "nengard": 246, "magnuse": 242, "eythian": 212, "druthb": 197, "slef": 180, "tcohen": 123, "drojf": 102, "marcelr": 98, "fredericd": 96, "bgkriegel": 82, "mtj": 74, "biblibre": 71, "hdl": 69, "mveron": 68, and "hdl_laptop": 60 |
19:25 | tcohen | have a nice weekend #koha |
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19:45 | mtompset | @karma |
19:45 | huginn | mtompset: Highest karma: "rangi" (842), "oleonard" (722), and "jcamins" (602). Lowest karma: "<!" (-115), "failed" (-103), and "ie" (-96). You (mtompset) are ranked 50 out of 2546. |
19:46 | mtompset | Well, at least I'm in the top 100? |
19:46 | pianohacker | Better than the poor HTML comment delimeter |
19:46 | worse karma than IE! | |
19:46 | rhcl | have just installed KohaOfflineCirculation_1.0_i386.deb on Mint, appeared to install fine, but I can't find the executable. Synaptic shows lots of libkoha... files. Anybody know the executable or where it might be installed? |
19:47 | mtompset | sorry. I don't know, rhcl. |
19:47 | pianohacker | rhcl: dpkg -L KohaOfflineCirculation | grep bin |
19:47 | mtompset | Oooo... nice idea. |
19:48 | pianohacker | dpkg is a wonderful thing once you coax it out from within its grumpy shell |
19:48 | other fun ones: apt-cache policy, dpkg -S | |
19:49 | druthb | @quote add <pianohacker> dpkg is a wonderful thing once you coax it out from within its grumpy shell |
19:49 | huginn | druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #266 added. |
19:49 | pianohacker | quotes++ |
19:50 | druthb | @quote random |
19:50 | huginn | druthb: Quote #85: "owen: Nothing says embracing my geekness like participating in an IRC meeting about software licenses!" (added by kf at 12:23 PM, July 14, 2010) |
19:50 | pianohacker | we'll need someone to get some IRL quotes from KohaCon |
19:53 | rhcl | @seen khall_away |
19:53 | huginn | rhcl: khall_away was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, 50 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <khall_away> happy bday rangi! |
19:53 | pianohacker | rhcl: any luck finding that executable? |
19:53 | rhcl | pianohacker: the dpkg seems to confirm it didn't get installed |
19:53 | pianohacker | weird. |
19:54 | rhcl | using dpkg -i fails for unspecified dependencies, but synaptic seemed to be fine with it |
19:55 | is there an arg "show-dependencies" to dpkg? | |
19:55 | pianohacker | command_line++ # confusing terseness over invisible errors :) |
19:56 | rhcl: Couldn't tell you. I usually just try to install it and see what dpkg complains about | |
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19:57 | mtompset | where did you get the deb file? |
19:57 | rhcl | http://sourceforge.net/project[…]es/?source=navbar |
19:58 | gonna try this google find: dpkg-deb --field p4.deb depends | |
19:58 | mtompset | dpkg -s |
19:58 | There's a "Depends" line. | |
19:59 | dpkg -s KohaOfflineCirculation | grep Depends | |
19:59 | Then you can try to make sure all the dependencies are properly installed? | |
20:00 | drojf | looks like it would be /usr/bin/KohaOfflineCirculation if installed correctly |
20:01 | rhcl: you know that there is also an offline circulation firefox plugin? | |
20:01 | and a cool html5 offline circulation patch on bugzilla | |
20:03 | rhcl | looks like the above worked, but there are a number of libqtx problems. If kyle were around I'd ask about forcing, but... |
20:04 | drojf: yea, but the offline circ module is used by a series of people already and this is what they needed | |
20:04 | staff here, I mean | |
20:04 | I may just have to have her boot into windows | |
20:05 | I should also mention that jcamins is working on a more better solution too | |
20:06 | cait | that's the one drojf was pointing to on bugzilla |
20:08 | pianohacker | Testing-related questions: are there any guides to setting up db-dependent tests? Never done it before, but I poked a C4 module |
20:08 | drojf | cait is qam and my secretary :) |
20:08 | cait | lol |
20:09 | guess if i am qam i should do some qaing | |
20:09 | soomeon eelse experiencing problems with the new git bz? | |
20:10 | drojf | still have not tried it :( |
20:10 | cait | aaq |
20:10 | aaw | |
20:11 | * pianohacker | hands cait a new keyboard |
20:11 | cait | heh thx |
20:14 | not sure it will help | |
20:15 | mtompset | pianohacker: I don't even know how to know if your test is db-dependent or not. The line seems fuzzy to me. |
20:15 | pianohacker | mtompset: the db-dependent tests all depend on an actual MySQL database to be in place, and usually test DB modification code |
20:16 | Most of the non-db-dependent classes either use a DBI::Mock or test pure calculations, to my knowledge | |
20:16 | mtompset | For example, the test suite I attached on bug 10454 might be in the wrong place. :) |
20:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10454 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Duplicate card numbers may be generated |
20:17 | drojf | look, it's that daily spam^W^mention of mtompsets bug :P |
20:17 | * druthb | looks for her Nerf gun! |
20:18 | pianohacker | no druthb |
20:18 | it's come to more drastic measures | |
20:18 | * pianohacker | sighs regretfully |
20:18 | * druthb | wields pointy stick. |
20:18 | pianohacker | mtompset-- |
20:19 | druthb | :-O |
20:19 | * cait | holds her breath |
20:19 | mtompset | that was mean. |
20:19 | pianohacker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvqJ1mTkEuY |
20:20 | mtompset: Well, it was either harass you | |
20:20 | or take away the imaginary internet points | |
20:20 | the latter seemed more entertaining | |
20:21 | cait | therehas been a lot ofmentioning that bug lately |
20:22 | * mtompset | doesn't reply, lest he incur the point-deducting wrath of pianohacker. :P |
20:23 | pianohacker | oh yes. this is very serious business ;) |
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20:57 | mtompset | Greetings, drojf cait. Back from picking up my son from daycare. :) |
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22:08 | drojf | cool, argentina is already on the list for kohacon 2014 |
22:08 | tcohen++ | |
22:08 | bgkriegel++ | |
22:24 | i wonder how long it takes from here to argentina by raft | |
22:32 | cait | :) |
22:33 | drojf | cait: wanna share a raft? ;) |
22:34 | cait | heh maybe |
22:34 | we can take turns rowing | |
22:35 | drojf | i thought we'd let the wind do all the magic ;) |
22:35 | cait | oh better paln |
22:35 | plan | |
22:40 | drojf | good night #koha |
22:43 | cait | good night drojf |
22:44 | good night #koha | |
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23:33 | pianohacker | good night |
23:33 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, pianohacker. |
23:33 | pianohacker | thanks, wahanui! |
23:33 | wahanui | bitte pianohacker |
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