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| 00:01 | oleonard joined #koha | |
| 00:02 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 00:04 | * jcamins | waves |
| 00:05 | dcook | hey ya oleonard |
| 00:07 | tcohen | hi dcook, r u the one that commented on bug 9659? |
| 00:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports |
| 00:08 | dcook | Last month? Yup |
| 00:10 | tcohen | thanks for testing, I fixed the problem you found and fredericd's comment and bgkriegel signed it |
| 00:12 | oleonard | jcamins, I wonder if you've looked at the 'needs signoff' list to see what things would not make it into 3.12 even if they were signed off now? |
| 00:12 | dcook | You're welcome, tcohen. I noticed that bgkriegel signed off on it. Looks useful :) |
| 00:12 | jcamins | oleonard: I have not. |
| 00:13 | It's a good idea, though. | |
| 00:14 | tcohen | yes, its part of my preparation for bug 9634 |
| 00:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports |
| 00:14 | tcohen | which requires quite more code changes, and found that bug when starting to work on it |
| 00:15 | silly question, how do I create a new page on our wiki? | |
| 00:16 | oleonard | One way is to link to it from an existing page |
| 00:16 | tcohen | i thought of it, but I want to start an RFC |
| 00:16 | and didn't find where to point it from | |
| 00:17 | aoh, my profile perhaps? | |
| 00:17 | rangi | do a search |
| 00:17 | if you get no results you can create a page | |
| 00:21 | oleonard | We really need a standardized way of hooking system preference choices into database columns |
| 00:22 | ..so that users are not free-typing things which are in the database, like csv profile names | |
| 00:24 | Hi druthb | |
| 00:24 | druthb | Hi, oleonard! |
| 00:24 | oleonard | Are you moved? |
| 00:24 | druthb | Moved, and today was my first day on the new gig |
| 00:26 | oleonard | Congratulations. I hope it went well |
| 00:27 | druthb | It went *very* well. I'm gonna love it. |
| 00:27 | oleonard | Awesome |
| 00:27 | druthb | There were six new-hires today, and I felt totally out-classed by the brains in the room. |
| 00:28 | (one told me later, that he felt out-classed by *me*. The Usual Problem.) | |
| 00:29 | oleonard | What kind of stuff will you be working on? |
| 00:34 | I want a script that checks every 'needs signoff' bug for a test plan and automatically fails it if it has none. | |
| 00:35 | rangi | hmm would be kinda tricky to write |
| 00:37 | oleonard | Yeah, the best you could hope for would be checking for no commit message at all (which we still get) |
| 00:37 | rangi | yep |
| 01:02 | wizzyrea | hey, it's an oleonard! |
| 01:03 | * oleonard | waves |
| 01:03 | oleonard | I probably have two more minutes before my wife tells me to get the hell off the computer and go to sleep |
| 01:04 | rangi | heh |
| 01:04 | * wizzyrea | tells you all the things |
| 01:06 | * druthb | chuckles. |
| 01:06 | waves an angry fuzzy cat at wizzyrea | |
| 01:07 | wizzyrea | ! is he still mad at you? |
| 01:07 | druthb | He is greatly pissed, yes. |
| 01:07 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 01:08 | * wizzyrea | sends pixel lovey head butts |
| 01:08 | druthb | Oh, I caught him in my bed for a while last night, pretending to ignore me while wanting to give me his lovey head butts. |
| 01:08 | oleonard | wizzyrea I got an email from Corey today saying there were some issues with the new Bootstrap stuff, but without providing details |
| 01:08 | druthb | As soon as I petted him, he turned around and stalked off again. |
| 01:08 | oleonard | Still waiting to hear back. |
| 01:09 | cjh | oleonard: the drop downs within a button group behaved differently from the drop down menus within a navbar |
| 01:09 | oleonard: namely that you couldnt use the keyboard to navigate through the button group drop down. | |
| 01:09 | oleonard: however it was found that it only appears in chrome / chromium. | |
| 01:09 | oleonard | Oh really? That's discouraging. |
| 01:10 | wizzyrea | and it looks like it's an upstream bug |
| 01:10 | and they know about it | |
| 01:10 | ultimately I think it's ok. | |
| 01:10 | cjh | wizzyrea: was there a bug that mentioned them knowing it was only in chrome (webkit I guess) and not FF? |
| 01:10 | oleonard | So we need to keep up with upgrades. I hope the fix goes into the 2.x branch |
| 01:10 | wizzyrea | yea, afaict it should be going in there. we'll see. |
| 01:10 | oleonard | I'm not sure if we're ready to ditch IE7 support, which Bootstrap 3 will do. |
| 01:11 | cjh | I think holding on to ie7 support is useful for a while still. |
| 01:11 | wizzyrea | the ones I saw were generalised "keyboard accessibility of button drop downs" |
| 01:11 | non specific, but fixes recently pushed. | |
| 01:11 | I could look again | |
| 01:11 | cjh | wizzyrea: the ones I noticed were quite old, and most had been closed at some point (without a matching 'resolved' comment) |
| 01:12 | wizzyrea | there were about a zillion of them |
| 01:12 | cjh | heh yeah |
| 01:12 | * oleonard | had better split |
| 01:12 | wizzyrea | yes you should go to bed :) |
| 01:12 | oleonard | See y'all in 11 hours |
| 01:12 | cjh | see ya! |
| 01:12 | wizzyrea | later! |
| 01:30 | jcamins | You know, I'm starting to suspect that Chrome's handling of submit events is buggy. |
| 01:32 | My forms randomly submit despite a 'return false' in the handler. | |
| 01:33 | dcook | Which forms? |
| 01:33 | Koha or other project? | |
| 01:33 | jcamins | Other project. |
| 01:33 | dcook | Hmm |
| 01:33 | I ran into a problem that sounds the same but it might not be | |
| 01:33 | * dcook | tries to remember the details |
| 01:37 | dcook | How do your forms submit and how are you preventing them from submitting? |
| 01:37 | Here's what happened to me | |
| 01:38 | jcamins | It seems to be specific to when I hit enter. |
| 01:38 | dcook | Hmm |
| 01:38 | jcamins | And I'm using 'return false' at the end of the function. |
| 01:41 | dcook | So when you click on the button it prevents the submit but if you hit enter it still submits |
| 01:41 | Bizarre indeed | |
| 01:42 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 01:43 | I just moved all my handlers into separate functions and it seems to be working better. | |
| 01:43 | dcook | The issue I had before was with competing Javascript |
| 01:43 | jcamins | Yeah, I think that must be the problem. |
| 01:44 | dcook | But that's just that was just the one script doing a document.form.submit() before the prevention script could work |
| 01:44 | Are you using the .submit jquery handler? | |
| 01:45 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 01:50 | dcook | Still having an issue with it? |
| 01:51 | jcamins | I don't think so... |
| 01:51 | dcook | \o/ |
| 01:52 | * jcamins | is mostly just avoiding hitting enter now. |
| 01:52 | dcook | lol |
| 01:53 | jcamins | ... and it's not putting in links. |
| 01:53 | Humbug. | |
| 01:54 | dcook | :( |
| 01:54 | jcamins | Oh, that's because I don't have links enabled. |
| 01:55 | dcook | Always nice when it's that easy |
| 02:11 | jcamins | Ooh... I now have a link loop. I wonder whether the display will recurse infinitely before exploding. |
| 02:13 | * druthb | watches Pootle updating 3.8... |
| 02:13 | dcook | I had a link loop earlier as well. I had a timeout pre-set...for 6 minutes. |
| 02:14 | Now I just want to output a multidimensional array from a resursive function :@ | |
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| 04:01 | eythian | http://instacod.es/66133 |
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| 07:01 | dcook | hey cait :) |
| 07:08 | @wunder Sydney, Australia | |
| 07:08 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (5:30 PM EST on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:09 | cait | @wunder Marseille |
| 07:09 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 6.0°C (7:30 AM CET on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:09 | dcook | You win :p |
| 07:15 | Night #koha. Hope everyone has fun at the Marseille hackfest! | |
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| 07:55 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 07:56 | rangi | hi paul_p and drojf |
| 07:56 | paul_p | good morning #koha. |
| 07:56 | khall | morning all! |
| 07:56 | paul_p | Hackfest day 2 starting |
| 07:56 | rangi | hi khall |
| 07:57 | paul_p: get below 100 today? :) | |
| 07:57 | drojf | hi rangi, paul_p and khall |
| 07:58 | paul_p | would be cool, but I wouldn't bet, as librarians are feeding the list at the same time... |
| 07:59 | drojf | you have a bug reporting librarian force? :) |
| 08:01 | bag | good morning |
| 08:03 | Joubu | hi #koha |
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| 08:05 | reiveune | hello |
| 08:05 | rangi | hi bag, Joubu cait and reiveune |
| 08:06 | cait | bonjour rangi |
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| 08:12 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:13 | frido_s | good morning all |
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| 08:17 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 08:33 | alex_a_ | khall: Are you the author of these 3 patches: 8037, 8352 and 8956 ? |
| 08:36 | khall | alex_a_: yes, that is correct |
| 08:37 | alex_a_ | khall: these 3 patches does not apply |
| 08:38 | But i think there is not lot of work to get it works | |
| 08:38 | christophe_c | magnus_away:++ |
| 08:40 | cait | magnus_here++ :) |
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| 08:47 | * magnuse | waves from marseille |
| 08:48 | * cait | waves too |
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| 08:58 | khall | alex_a_: I should be able to get all those rebased today. Thanks for the heads up! |
| 09:01 | alex_a_ | khall: cool ! thx |
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| 09:06 | * wizzyrea | waves to europe |
| 09:06 | wizzyrea | good morning :) |
| 09:07 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 09:09 | magnuse | kia ora wizzyrea |
| 09:10 | wizzyrea | kia ora magnuse! |
| 09:12 | clrh | o/ |
| 09:13 | does the koha-comunity have the "replace text" extension ? just wanted to rename a category (without editing all pages ;)) | |
| 09:13 | http://www.tipsandtricks-hq.co[…]-in-mediawiki-547 | |
| 09:15 | magnuse | clrh: don't think so... |
| 09:15 | clrh | yup so manual move =D |
| 09:20 | magnuse | clrh: yeah, unless you want to wait and ask gmcharlt if he could install the extension |
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| 09:26 | mtj | hi peeps, bonjour Marseille :) |
| 09:26 | Joubu, about? | |
| 09:28 | i have a suggestion regarding the koha qa-tools | |
| 09:29 | basically, the idea was to have the 'offical' repo for the qa-tools at git.kc.org | |
| 09:30 | … and the github repo as a synced mirror only | |
| 09:31 | so, i am suggesting that this would be the offical repo - http://git.koha-community.org/[…]qa-test-tools.git | |
| 09:33 | (both repos are currently synced/identical, fyi) | |
| 09:36 | also, the repo name has been renamed too. as chris.c created an existing koha-qa-tools repo, already | |
| 09:37 | Joubu | mtj: yes you are right |
| 09:37 | mtj | so, a bad repo name choice by me :/ |
| 09:37 | heya Joubu :) | |
| 09:38 | Joubu | hello mtj |
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| 09:39 | mtj | are you ok to push to git.kc.org? and i will sync the github repo from the kc.org repo… |
| 09:40 | Joubu | mtj: yep, but I don't know if I have rights for pushing on git.kc.org |
| 09:40 | mtj | 1 tic…. i'll PM you some info |
| 09:44 | bag | Joubu: bug 5334 already pushed to master so I have that h2 > Acquisitions detail < already in the code |
| 09:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5334 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , add explicit foreign key constraints |
| 09:44 | bag | it's just not working for me |
| 09:51 | * magnuse | shifts into signing off-mode and hopes to remain there for the rest of the day |
| 09:55 | takes a shot at Bug 9745 | |
| 09:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9745 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Don't nuke translated permissions with changes introduced in bug 9382 |
| 10:04 | paul_p | cait I won't QA bug 9358 because it's MARC21 specific and can't say if it's valid or not |
| 10:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9358 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21 update #15 |
| 10:04 | cait | paul_p: oh ok, can you put me in as qa contact maybe? |
| 10:05 | i will look at it a little later | |
| 10:05 | paul_p | cait done |
| 10:07 | cait | thx |
| 10:08 | jcamins: ping me when you are around later? | |
| 10:12 | paul_p | cait QAing bug 8190 |
| 10:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a logging module to Koha, that can report log message to staff interface (for developer use) |
| 10:20 | alohalog` joined #koha | |
| 10:20 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 3 April 2013 at 10:00 UTC | |
| 10:21 | cait | clrh: looks logical to me |
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| 10:25 | clrh | I hope I won't break to much habits >< |
| 10:25 | thanks cait | |
| 10:26 | cait | magnuse: (11:19:58) clrh: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ory:Search_Engine >> http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]egory:Solr/Lucene and http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Category:Zebra |
| 10:26 | magnuse | looks good! |
| 10:27 | clrh++ | |
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| 11:57 | jcamins | clrh: I'm around for a bit now. |
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| 12:18 | clrh | jcamins: I sent a mail to koha-devel about doc refactoring |
| 12:18 | this morning I presented solr integration to french librarians | |
| 12:18 | jcamins | I saw. :) |
| 12:18 | Well, I saw the e-mail. | |
| 12:19 | clrh | I got a question about your work: |
| 12:20 | what is really behind "1(d). Implement Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra" http://www.cpbibliography.com/[…]earchrewrite.html | |
| 12:20 | jcamins | Mostly it's about refactoring C4::Search. |
| 12:20 | clrh | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC#.28d.29_Adjust_the_query_parser_to_use_Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra I must read this I think ;) |
| 12:21 | jcamins | As you know, without refactoring our existing search code we'll never be able to use a consistent interface to Solr/Zebra. |
| 12:21 | clrh | actually I found your "estimation effort" really few compared to the work I see in my mind (cleaning existing code and moving in right place) |
| 12:21 | jcamins: yep | |
| 12:22 | jcamins | The estimate *is* low. |
| 12:22 | clrh | :) |
| 12:22 | and today if you have this proce for "d" only, would it be sufficent to have solr / zebra switch "working" ? | |
| 12:22 | jcamins | I didn't estimate "this is how much it would take to finish the work," I estimated "this is how much I would have to be paid in order to volunteer my time to do this important project." |
| 12:23 | clrh | okay |
| 12:23 | jcamins | There also needs to be a QP driver for Solr. |
| 12:23 | clrh | qp ? query parser yep |
| 12:24 | I must have a look >< | |
| 12:24 | jcamins | Fortunately QP drivers are very easy. :) |
| 12:24 | clrh | \o/ |
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| 12:24 | jcamins | Myshkin says hi. |
| 12:24 | Loudly. | |
| 12:26 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:28 | * oleonard | wonders what's up with the dashboard |
| 12:28 | sees nothing under 'bug statuses' | |
| 12:30 | oleonard | Oh, I left JS disabled last night :P |
| 12:30 | bag | anybody looking to sign off on something? if so bug 8037 |
| 12:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8037 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add holds and funds to items already received in parcel.pl |
| 12:31 | bag | :) |
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| 12:39 | jcamins | How does one get news to show up on the OPAC? |
| 12:39 | Ah. | |
| 12:39 | You have to put something into the position box. | |
| 12:39 | tcohen | you create the message |
| 12:43 | jcamins | tcohen: I created a news item, but I didn't put anything in the box for position. |
| 12:43 | When I stuck a 1 in, that fixed it. | |
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| 12:54 | oleonard | Hi cait |
| 12:55 | I'll be glad to see 3.8.x go, I'm tired of using the wayback machine to find the documentation on the old tabs plugin | |
| 12:56 | * oleonard | can never remember how to trigger a certain tab to show |
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| 12:56 | * cait | waves to oleonard |
| 12:56 | cait | working on bug 9256 now |
| 12:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 12:56 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 12:56 | jcamins | oleonard: hehe. |
| 12:57 | clrh | feeling alone on #hfk13 hashtag on twitter, evrybody works ;) |
| 12:57 | cait | I have a nonpublic account :( |
| 12:57 | but I did use the hashtag yesterday... until I remembered | |
| 12:57 | that noone would see it | |
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| 12:59 | magnuse | cait: hehe |
| 12:59 | jcamins | cait: I'm around for a few minutes. |
| 12:59 | cait | @wunder marseille |
| 12:59 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (1:30 PM CET on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:01 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 13:01 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 15.0°C (9:00 AM ART on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:01 | tcohen | I feel like I was in marseille |
| 13:02 | cait | heh |
| 13:02 | you have your own personal hackfest? :) | |
| 13:02 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 13:02 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (1:50 PM CET on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:02 | tcohen | not exactly but the weather conditions match |
| 13:02 | * magnuse | made the right choice |
| 13:04 | reiveune | :) |
| 13:05 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1084 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 13:07 | oleonard | I'll bet you hackfest folks would like to sign off on Bug 8278 and Bug 9773! |
| 13:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 13:07 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI AJAX calls in cataloging plugins with jQuery | |
| 13:07 | tcohen | cait, i've had my own hackfest now that u mention |
| 13:08 | * magnuse | waves to Viktor |
| 13:08 | tcohen | i'll have to assist our librarians the rest of the week didn't have my attention for a while! |
| 13:08 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8979' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6c11a9749ac4087e6> / Bug 8979 - simple addition of news to CCSR theme <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b7f4ad8a3555ab54e> / Merge branch 'bug_9832' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f;h=84d8cce883afa |
| 13:09 | matts | Bug 7673 has been signed-off... now waiting for QA... |
| 13:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , New patron permissions |
| 13:10 | * Viktor | waves back to magnuse from Hylte |
| 13:11 | tcohen | jcamins, have you made up your mind on what won't get into 3.12? |
| 13:23 | Viktor | I think I just hit a RFC - is it possible to buffer/queue barcodes when issuing loans/returning? I think not and that the RFC :) |
| 13:23 | I would absolutly love a AJAX solution where you can scan as fast as you want to a (visible) box where the system fetches barcodes to process. | |
| 13:24 | Dyrcona | Viktor: We have not quite that in Evergreen (by accident) and it causes all kinds of problems for staff. |
| 13:25 | Viktor | Some testing today on a 70Mbit+ fiber indicated that the system is slower than the staff/scanners. At least without Plack. |
| 13:25 | Dyrcona Interesting - do you have time to tell me more? | |
| 13:25 | magnuse | yeah, that is a weak point... |
| 13:26 | Viktor | Since we will still have a lot of manual issuing I want to speed things up. Barcodes are lost when scanning to quick. |
| 13:26 | Dyrcona | Viktor: The short of it is, the staff can't be bothered to pay attention to the screen, so they'll scan a bunch of things, and hand them to the patron, only to find out later that half the stuff didn't check out for some reason or another.\ |
| 13:26 | Yeah, I'd expect the system to be slower than the staff/scanners. If it isn't, then it isn't doing much. | |
| 13:26 | Viktor | Dyrcona - Sound like the same problem you get without that function too :) |
| 13:26 | oleonard | "staff can't be bothered to look at the screen" seems to be a common problem |
| 13:27 | Viktor | oleonard :) |
| 13:27 | Dyrcona | Viktor: It is worse when this "feature" is enabled. Mainly because staff don't really understand what it does. |
| 13:28 | Viktor | Dyrcona: Does the system show visually that there are barcodes not yet processed? |
| 13:28 | I figure you would have to be very clear visually with this sort of thing... | |
| 13:29 | Dyrcona | Viktor: Not really, no. It turns out it was an experiment that found its way into the master repo before we had much in the way of rules about such things. |
| 13:29 | Viktor | Or could we just add some sort of "checkout in batch"? |
| 13:29 | Dyrcona | Anyway, I'll let you discuss your feature, and maybe I'll learn how to fix ours. :) |
| 13:29 | Viktor | Dyrcona: Sad to hear. But it gives me hope of being able to make something like this happen in a working way :) |
| 13:30 | Dyrcona :) Learning from others is great. Good to hear from someone that uses something like this. | |
| 13:31 | magnuse | Viktor: an enhancement request in bugzilla describing the problem and your suggestion for a solution would be a good start |
| 13:31 | Viktor | I?d say that it would have to be coded so that no closing of the checkout session is possible when there are barcodes left to process. |
| 13:32 | magnuse | Viktor: and a link to an RFC on the wiki, if you have a lot to say about it :-) |
| 13:32 | frido_s | I rebased 9163 for signed off, it is a P1 new feature |
| 13:32 | Viktor | magnuse: I'll add it. But as long as I feel like a n00b I'll keep asking here first so I dont RFC stuff that already in there ;) |
| 13:35 | magnuse | Viktor: good idea. but we are really kind to n00bs, so don't be too afraid of doing things ;-) |
| 13:35 | cait | bug 9163 |
| 13:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9163 new feature, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Cataloguing validation workflow |
| 13:37 | oleonard | cait: I assume that bug doesn't qualify for inclusion at this stage |
| 13:37 | frido_s: Isn't it too late to add new features like 9163? jcamins? | |
| 13:39 | frido_s | oleonard: I just rebased for testing |
| 13:39 | Viktor | Oh by the way - does anyone use Koha with RFID? At least here in Sweden libraries usually allow batch issuing with RFID. Does SIP2 take care of all that? |
| 13:50 | clrh | cait++ |
| 13:51 | @cait++ | |
| 13:51 | matts | cait++ too |
| 13:51 | huginn | clrh: I suck |
| 13:51 | cait | clrh: what did I do? :) |
| 13:51 | clrh | Oo |
| 13:51 | bug 5635 \o/ | |
| 13:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5635 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, stephane.delaune, Passed QA , bulkmarcimport new parameters & features |
| 13:51 | cait | oleonard: I don't know - haven't taken a look at it |
| 13:51 | clrh: ah :) | |
| 13:51 | reiveune++ :) | |
| 13:52 | reiveune | ??? |
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| 13:52 | clrh | caitbug 9117 too thx ;) |
| 13:53 | cait | :) |
| 13:53 | as you are mentining it... I really need someone to test someting :) | |
| 13:54 | clrh | matts: bug 7677 shouldnot be new I think |
| 13:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , New area in subscriptions and new function when receiving |
| 13:54 | cait | bug 8378 |
| 13:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
| 13:54 | cait | this is really a big bug for our libraries and I woud love to see that tested and hopefully signed off |
| 13:54 | so it can go into qa | |
| 13:55 | it requires the overdues and fine cronjobs to be run, so it's probably not possible to test this on sandboxes :( | |
| 13:58 | tcohen | leme see |
| 13:58 | dpavlin | Viktor: I don't quite understand what do you mean by "batch issuing" |
| 13:58 | we are using RFID as fancy replacement for barcodes and it works well for us with Koha | |
| 14:00 | tcohen | i think Viktor might be suggesting that their librarians are faster at reading barcodes than the submission-then-re-render-chekin-page step |
| 14:01 | Viktor | dpavlin Glad to hear! That how they are used here to :) What I wonder is how the system handles the fact that you can put a bunch of books on a RFID-based station at once. |
| 14:01 | cait | Viktor: we found it's never a good idea |
| 14:01 | because they miss problems | |
| 14:02 | Viktor | tcohen dpavlin - For manual checkout/returns indeed. |
| 14:02 | cait | if everything is checked out -it's great |
| 14:02 | but if you have one not for loan item in the stack | |
| 14:02 | it gets hard to find the book | |
| 14:02 | in the stack | |
| 14:02 | so that takes more time than doing it one by one | |
| 14:02 | and reacting instantly to any error messages or warnings | |
| 14:03 | Viktor | tcohen dpavlin cait - Yes that's what I suspected. But sometimes when using machines the machine itself has a graphical interface to explain these problems to the user. |
| 14:03 | cait | yep self check machines do |
| 14:03 | we just didn't find it working well at the circ desk | |
| 14:04 | Viktor | I made a reques by the way for a barcode queue (checkout / returns) in the staff interface. http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9844 |
| 14:04 | huginn | 04Bug 9844: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a barcode queue to checkout / return |
| 14:04 | tcohen | where are currencies set? |
| 14:04 | cait | in administration currencies :) |
| 14:04 | tcohen: I will help you with configuration :) | |
| 14:04 | Viktor | Sorry about mixing two topics - self service with RFID and staff interface :) |
| 14:05 | cait | I really need this problem resolved :) |
| 14:05 | Viktor | cait Thanks! |
| 14:05 | cait | Viktor: no problem - hope I made sense - lots of things going on at the same time :) |
| 14:06 | Viktor | cait - It did. And confirmed by suspicion :) |
| 14:13 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1084: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1084/ |
| 14:13 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9832: avert software error with QP enabled and misconfigured | |
| 14:13 | * Liz Rea: Bug 8979 - simple addition of news to CCSR theme | |
| 14:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9832 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , QueryParser causes software error if koha-conf.xml has not been updated |
| 14:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8979 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "News" does not work with CCSR | |
| 14:13 | matts | you're right clrh |
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| 14:24 | oleonard | http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2[…]013-tech-leaders/ |
| 14:24 | gmcharlt++ | |
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| 14:24 | maximep | dpavlin++ for bug 8378 |
| 14:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
| 14:28 | magnuse | gmcharlt++ |
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| 14:29 | tcohen | hmmm cait: Barcode: XXX Fine: $0.00 |
| 14:29 | when the UI says $5.00 | |
| 14:29 | cait | do you have a fine on the patron account? |
| 14:29 | bah. | |
| 14:29 | is it an overdue fine? | |
| 14:29 | tcohen | " Patron has Outstanding fees & charges of 5.00." |
| 14:29 | cait | created by the fnes cronjob? |
| 14:30 | tcohen | yes |
| 14:30 | cait | maximep: feel free to give it a test drive |
| 14:30 | gmcharlt++ too | |
| 14:30 | gmcharlt | thanks! |
| 14:31 | cait | very cool :) |
| 14:31 | tcohen: what was the syntax you used in the overdues template? | |
| 14:32 | tcohen | I edited the default ODUE notice, |
| 14:32 | <item>"<<biblio.title>>" by <<biblio.author>>, <<items.itemcallnumber>>, Barcode: <<items.barcode>> Fine: <<items.fine>></item> | |
| 14:32 | dpavlin | tcohen: patch doesn't touch fine calculation, it just inserts calculated value in template |
| 14:33 | is that item checkouted in last three days? | |
| 14:34 | tcohen | i checked out with a due date two days ago |
| 14:34 | the UI says there is a 5.00 debt | |
| 14:35 | cait | which code has the debt? when you look at the fines tab? |
| 14:36 | tcohen | 03/19/2013 Rental View item Saludos 5.00 5.00 Print |
| 14:36 | cait | that is rental :) |
| 14:36 | it will only print overdue fines | |
| 14:36 | because it's an overdues notice :) | |
| 14:37 | you will have to set up circulation rules to charge fines | |
| 14:37 | and then you make sure system preference finesmode is production (set to calculate) | |
| 14:37 | and then you run the fines job | |
| 14:37 | and then there should be a fine on the bug with a F or FU type | |
| 14:37 | hat will get printed to the notice | |
| 14:38 | jcamins | gmcharlt: congratulations! |
| 14:41 | tcohen | cait, i had the calculate and email the admin setting |
| 14:41 | this are my circ rules http://snag.gy/yI92A.jpg | |
| 14:42 | the fact that it says a rental charge is another bug i think, because I've not set rental charges | |
| 14:44 | jcamins | The new updatedatabase code is too dangerous for 3.12 I think, but other than that anything that can be finished by the end of the week is fair game. |
| 14:44 | magnuse | cait: should bug 9820 be "in discussion"? |
| 14:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9820 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Missing space between 100/700 $a and $c (MARC21/XSLT) |
| 14:45 | cait | magnuse: maybe, I was hoping to get some more input |
| 14:45 | jcamins | I like the class idea. |
| 14:48 | What we really need is a way for users to easily style fields however they want. | |
| 14:48 | But that's not really practical. | |
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| 14:52 | francharb | hi |
| 14:52 | wahanui | salut, francharb |
| 14:53 | magnuse | dpavlin++ |
| 15:01 | jcamins: do you think bug 9843 fixes the packages too? | |
| 15:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9843 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , OpenILS/QueryParser.pm not (always) installed when installing from tarball |
| 15:01 | jcamins | magnuse: should do, yes. |
| 15:01 | magnuse | cool |
| 15:04 | tcohen | cait: how did those circulatio rules lookd to you? |
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| 15:06 | cait | you need a fine and a fine interval |
| 15:06 | like tell it 1.50 every day (interval = 1) grace period 0 max cap 4.50 | |
| 15:07 | tcohen | http://snag.gy/yI92A.jpg |
| 15:07 | cait | don#t give a suspension |
| 15:07 | and give an overdue fines cap instead | |
| 15:08 | that is like 3* your fine or so | |
| 15:09 | maximep | cait: ok, will try the patches for 8378 as soon as my fines are calculated on my dev... hopefully this hour -_- |
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| 15:09 | mib_vrwg6n | hi alla |
| 15:09 | tcohen | cait, got it |
| 15:09 | its functional as expected | |
| 15:10 | the problem was the finesmode | |
| 15:10 | setting | |
| 15:11 | mib_vrwg6n | is it possible to copy marc record to a textbox and automaticly filling catalogging form |
| 15:11 | i mean is there a marc parser on koha? | |
| 15:12 | oleonard | mib_vrwg6n: You can import MARC files |
| 15:12 | mib_vrwg6n | just mrc files? |
| 15:12 | jcamins | mib_vrwg6n: yes and no. You can import MARC, but there's functionality to copy and paste non-standard MARC into the interface for cataloging. |
| 15:12 | Right. | |
| 15:13 | *no functionality... | |
| 15:13 | You can import but not copy-and-paste. | |
| 15:13 | * jcamins | has terrible keylag and doesn't know what he's said until several seconds after he hits enter. |
| 15:13 | mib_vrwg6n | i think importing and caopying marc record to a textbox are same things |
| 15:15 | msales | Hi, we are having problems with the zebra indexing |
| 15:15 | oleonard | mib_vrwg6n: No, one requires a MARC file, the other involves plain text |
| 15:16 | jcamins | If you're talking about copying the binary MARC, just stick it in a file and import it. It's one extra step but in the end you get what you want. |
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| 15:16 | jcamins | And think about using Z39.50 instead, since that's more likely to be what you want to do. |
| 15:16 | Herwig | Hey Koha |
| 15:17 | where do i find the koha databas structure i lost the link | |
| 15:17 | oleonard | schema? |
| 15:17 | wahanui | somebody said schema was tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
| 15:17 | Herwig | yay thats the one :) thx |
| 15:18 | msales | We installed the koha-common with the Unimarc format, run the Portuguese installer (we previously installed the Portuguese language package), created and the tried to index an authority and a bibliographic record using the command: koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library and got an error. Can anyone help? |
| 15:18 | jcamins | msales: you'll need to tell us what the error was. |
| 15:18 | mib_vrwg6n | i just want to copy plain text format marc format and paste it in textbox after koha will parse it and automaticly will fill cataloginig form |
| 15:18 | i need this func. | |
| 15:18 | oleonard | mib_vrwg6n: Then you'll have to write it or sponsor its development |
| 15:18 | msales | here's the error: zebraidx(7930) [warn] /etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml: stylesheet authority-zebra indexdefs.xls not found in path /etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc: /etc/koha/zebradb/etc: /etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/authorities:/etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/fr:/etc/koha/zebradb/xsl… |
| 15:19 | jcamins | msales: oh! Of course... you should be using GRS-1 with authorities for UNIMARC. |
| 15:19 | mib_vrwg6n | i just can give a kiss for this (((: |
| 15:20 | jcamins | msales: I think packages default to DOM for authorities. |
| 15:20 | It should be pretty easy to change, but I don't know the exact commands off the top of my head. | |
| 15:23 | mib_vrwg6n: that feature would be quite difficult to implement most likely. You should see if there's any way you can get Z39.50 access to the catalogs you're screen scraping | |
| 15:23 | Or use a screen scraper that extracts MARC data. | |
| 15:23 | There are a few out there in various places. | |
| 15:23 | msales | jcamins: thank you! we will make the change you suggest. |
| 15:29 | cait | tcohen++ |
| 15:29 | tcohen | jcamins, 9843 is for a standard install, right? |
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| 15:34 | jcamins | bug 9843 |
| 15:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9843 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , OpenILS/QueryParser.pm not (always) installed when installing from tarball |
| 15:34 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 15:35 | tcohen | also the all-in-one-place install? |
| 15:36 | jcamins | I don't believe the all-in-one-place install works at all. |
| 15:36 | tcohen | (was called single, right?) |
| 15:36 | jcamins | But... probably. |
| 15:36 | * jcamins | doesn't remember what it's called. |
| 15:36 | tcohen | testing right now |
| 15:36 | "single" | |
| 15:41 | clrh | oleonard: hello - I am doing some point on rebases and I would like to know if you plan to do something on bug 7264 |
| 15:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7264 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Display information about library on OPAC detail |
| 15:42 | * magnuse | claims bug 9726 for testing and possible signoff |
| 15:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9726 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , XISBN service throttle not initialized |
| 15:43 | oleonard | clrh: That bug is fixed by Bug 9572 |
| 15:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9572 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Opac info tooltip from branches is not well positioned |
| 15:43 | oleonard | clrh: I did not remember that 7464 was still open because of that issue |
| 15:43 | clrh | ah ha :) |
| 15:44 | May I let you closing it ? | |
| 15:44 | msales | jcamins: It didn't work, we got the error message when searching for the authority record: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 338. |
| 15:44 | oleonard | Sure |
| 15:44 | msales | We set the environment variables this way:export KOHA_CONF =/etc/koha/sites/biblioteca/koha-conf.xml export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib |
| 15:45 | clrh | oleonard: thanks |
| 15:45 | jcamins | msales: but no problems now when reindexing? |
| 15:46 | (note: I'm working on other things and don't have a usable internet connection, so my troubleshooting is pretty much limited to asking questions that you've probably already considered) | |
| 15:46 | cait | jcamins: are you talking about a package install with non-marc21? |
| 15:47 | jcamins | cait: yes. |
| 15:47 | UNIMARC. | |
| 15:47 | wahanui | i heard unimarc was http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation |
| 15:47 | jcamins | sophie_m: I just copied and pasted the instructions from the bug report. |
| 15:48 | magnuse | msales, jcamins sounds like bug 9256 |
| 15:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 15:48 | * cait | nods |
| 15:49 | magnuse | it's qa'ed now, just needs the attention of some rm or other... ;-) |
| 15:49 | jcamins | But that won't happen until sometime either much later today or tomorrow. |
| 15:50 | * oleonard | demands that Myshkin stop hogging all of jcamins' time! |
| 15:50 | sophie_m | jcamins: the pb of carriage returns is dealt in Bug 9372 |
| 15:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Failed QA , Automatic carriage return in message_queue where content_type is html |
| 15:51 | cait | I was wondering about that patch actually... *goes to take a look at it* |
| 15:52 | sophie_m | jcamins: if you look at bug 6030, you will see that there are many bugs concerning genarating notices |
| 15:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6030 critical, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Signed Off , Allow for html in letters in overdue notices |
| 15:52 | sophie_m | cait : which one ? |
| 15:52 | cait | the whitespace one :) |
| 15:52 | msales | jcamins and magnuse: thank you for your answers. Do you think that it is better to install the 3.8 version? |
| 15:53 | jcamins | sophie_m: okay, so different problems. |
| 15:53 | * jcamins | did not realize that. |
| 16:02 | magnuse | msales: probably |
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| 16:05 | msales | magnuse: we'll do that! :) thank you. |
| 16:07 | cait | oh |
| 16:07 | has he sent a photo? | |
| 16:07 | oleonard | :) |
| 16:12 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:16 | oleonard | How is Bug 5858 to be tested? |
| 16:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Default frameworks missing many MARC21 tags |
| 16:19 | jcamins | I suspect it's woefully out of date again. |
| 16:19 | oleonard | bkriegel added an update |
| 16:19 | frido_s | see you |
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| 16:22 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 16:23 | Confirm that recently-added tags show up. | |
| 16:23 | I guess. | |
| 16:24 | oleonard | jcamins: I should be able to import the updated file via the interface or through mysql? |
| 16:24 | jcamins | oleonard: I thought it was a patch for the default framework. |
| 16:26 | oleonard | Yes, but how does it update my default framework? It doesn't trigger updatedatabase |
| 16:28 | jcamins | New installation. |
| 16:28 | Don't want to clobber anyone's changes. | |
| 16:29 | oleonard | And if one wanted to use the updated version (clobbering any changes)? |
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| 16:30 | jcamins | You can load the SQL file with MySQL. |
| 16:32 | oleonard | ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 49: Duplicate entry '999-a' for key 'PRIMARY' |
| 16:35 | * jcamins | isn't sure, then. |
| 16:37 | magnuse | @later tell dpavlin: looking for encoding problems? bug 9772 is weird |
| 16:37 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:39 | magnuse | gah! |
| 16:40 | * magnuse | is seeing the symptoms of bug 9256 on a dev install now too... |
| 16:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 16:40 | jcamins | magnuse: did you re-run the installer? |
| 16:40 | magnuse | yup |
| 16:40 | twice | |
| 16:40 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 16:41 | I ran into a problem that went away when I reran the installer. | |
| 16:41 | magnuse | also after applying the patch for 9256, in the hope that it would fix it |
| 16:42 | jcamins | A change added by QueryParser that triggers it? |
| 16:42 | magnuse | hm, could be perhaps |
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| 16:43 | jcamins | (assuming it's new as of the last few days) |
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| 16:46 | magnuse | jcamins: i'm not sure, it might have been a while since i tried searching on a dev install... |
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| 16:56 | jcamins | magnuse: git bisect? :) |
| 16:57 | tcohen | if you have a script that can test for the bug, use git bissect |
| 16:58 | * magnuse | looks up git bisect |
| 17:03 | magnuse | tcohen: that should not be too hard |
| 17:04 | i might have to upgrade between each test, though, because the problem involves config files... | |
| 17:11 | clrh | jcamins: I am having a look to PQF query parser, is there a better way to understand things ? I looked at test, but I don't understand well the purpose of OpenILS directory |
| 17:12 | if it can be considered as external library why not moving it in a cpan module for example ? | |
| 17:12 | (continuing reading ) | |
| 17:13 | cait | clrh: not sure jcamins is still here - but I think they are planning to do that - moving it into cpan long term |
| 17:14 | clrh | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=9239#c19 ookay |
| 17:14 | huginn | 04Bug 9239: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries |
| 17:14 | clrh | cait: yep it was into the next comment >< |
| 17:15 | cait | long day :) |
| 17:17 | jcamins | Yes, what cait said. |
| 17:18 | cait | oleonard: was your comment earlier about bug 9535? |
| 17:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9535 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work |
| 17:18 | cait | pretty hard to keep track of things right now |
| 17:18 | and I meant bug 9353 | |
| 17:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9353 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks |
| 17:18 | oleonard | cait: Yes |
| 17:18 | cait | no i tihnk we should not delete I think |
| 17:18 | but hm. | |
| 17:19 | what do other think? the problem with deleting fields is that koha throws away fields it does not know on saving | |
| 17:20 | jcamins | I think bgkriegel is fixing the patch to not delete any fields. |
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| 17:22 | cait | ah good |
| 17:23 | can I move it to failed qa then? or in discussion? | |
| 17:23 | we just need 6 more bug activies to reach yesterday :P | |
| 17:23 | oleonard | Assigned I suppose |
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| 17:29 | sophie_m | bye #koha |
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| 17:33 | cait | :) |
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| 17:41 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 17:41 | TheBrookinator | Hey |
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| 17:42 | TheBrookinator | Ugh can't see chat through mibbit on my touch |
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| 17:46 | TheBrookinator | Ha! I will ghetto alt tab the logs. |
| 17:46 | magnuse | 106 bugs need signoff - the hackfesters in marseille are calling it a day - it's up to the people in the americas now! ;-) |
| 17:46 | and nz soon | |
| 17:47 | perhaps there wil be less than 100 when the hackfest resumes? ;-) | |
| 17:47 | have fun, anyway! | |
| 17:48 | datadoctor | Thank you hackfesters! |
| 17:48 | TheBrookinator | Marseilles++ |
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| 17:59 | nancyk | #startmeeting KohaCon 13 Planning |
| 17:59 | huginn | Meeting started Tue Mar 19 17:59:10 2013 UTC. The chair is nancyk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 17:59 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 17:59 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: KohaCon 13 Planning) | |
| 17:59 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'kohacon_13_planning' |
| 17:59 | nancyk | #chair nancyk |
| 17:59 | huginn | Current chairs: nancyk |
| 17:59 | nancyk | #topic introductions |
| 17:59 | Topic for #koha is now introductions (Meeting topic: KohaCon 13 Planning) | |
| 17:59 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
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| 18:00 | TheBrookinator | Hi KohaCon folks :) |
| 18:01 | rhcl joined #koha | |
| 18:01 | nancyk | have i goofed up because of daylight savings time? |
| 18:02 | jcamins | Most people are in Marseilles. |
| 18:02 | rhcl | #info Greg Lawson Rolling Hills Consolidated Library, St. Joseph, MO |
| 18:02 | jcamins | So far as I know you have the correct time. |
| 18:03 | nancyk | i'll give it a minute, and then report |
| 18:04 | TheBrookinator | Don't look at me I'm just following the date and time link. |
| 18:05 | nancyk | ok, i'll go ahead then |
| 18:05 | #topic KohaCon 13 update | |
| 18:05 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 13 update (Meeting topic: KohaCon 13 Planning) | |
| 18:05 | nancyk | #info 23 people have registered for KohaCon 13 so far. |
| 18:06 | #info We have 8 presentation offers so far. | |
| 18:06 | #info Please submit your idea for a presentation now, rather than later. They will attract people to come to the convention. | |
| 18:07 | TheBrookinator | Hooray moar folks at Conference |
| 18:07 | nancyk | #topic we could use a co-chair |
| 18:07 | Topic for #koha is now we could use a co-chair (Meeting topic: KohaCon 13 Planning) | |
| 18:08 | nancyk | any volunteers? |
| 18:09 | #topic Master of ceremonies Do we need someone to announce people and keep things moving along per schedule? | |
| 18:09 | Topic for #koha is now Master of ceremonies Do we need someone to announce people and keep things moving along per schedule? (Meeting topic: KohaCon 13 Planning) | |
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| 18:11 | nancyk | #topic Cut-off date for submission of programs |
| 18:11 | Topic for #koha is now Cut-off date for submission of programs (Meeting topic: KohaCon 13 Planning) | |
| 18:11 | nancyk | How do we get people who have promised to do one, to get them posted? |
| 18:12 | Hey nancy, you are doing a great job! | |
| 18:12 | Thanks | |
| 18:12 | Thebrookinator | If you ever figure that out, you'll be a rich lady. We're largely a community of procrastinators. It all comes right in the end though |
| 18:13 | nancyk | I know |
| 18:13 | #topic hackfest | |
| 18:13 | Topic for #koha is now hackfest (Meeting topic: KohaCon 13 Planning) | |
| 18:13 | rangi | We do need a cut off date |
| 18:14 | Set deadlines and ppl will stop procrastinating | |
| 18:14 | nancyk | ok set one |
| 18:15 | rangi | Otherwise we will run the risk of not having the programme finalised in time for ppl to ask for permission to attend |
| 18:15 | I'd go April 14 | |
| 18:15 | nancyk | ok, you got it! |
| 18:16 | #topic Opening speaker | |
| 18:16 | Topic for #koha is now Opening speaker (Meeting topic: KohaCon 13 Planning) | |
| 18:16 | rangi | We had an mc at kohacon10, Russel, worked well |
| 18:16 | Thebrookinator | So you'll be all finished your talk with slides by next month or what? |
| 18:17 | rangi | No but your proposal will be |
| 18:17 | Slides can be the day before | |
| 18:17 | nancyk | when do we need to see the final product, as in more than an idea? |
| 18:18 | rangi | The day they present it :) |
| 18:18 | nancyk | Yikes! That's exciting! |
| 18:19 | ok, on the the opening speaker RM, who? | |
| 18:19 | rangi | well maybe 2 days before so you can load them onto the presenation computer :) but we've never done submit your whole talk before you do it before, and it works better than any conference ive been to that does that :-) |
| 18:19 | hmm | |
| 18:20 | do you want to do a traditional keynote of someone totally outside the area? | |
| 18:20 | or more of the kohacon style ? | |
| 18:20 | Thebrookinator | KohaCon has done both of those |
| 18:20 | nancyk | don't know, new at this..... I like to be different |
| 18:20 | rangi | (paul and I did kohacon09, rosalie blake (the first koha librarian) did kohacon10) |
| 18:20 | it has ? | |
| 18:21 | Thebrookinator: who keynoted from outside library land? | |
| 18:21 | Thebrookinator | Yeah Jo is hardly Indian xd |
| 18:21 | rangi | no, outside the area of the conference, not geography :) |
| 18:21 | nancyk | be thinking, we can talk about it more |
| 18:21 | later' | |
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| 18:22 | rangi | lots of conferences have a keynote from someone who they think would be interesting but often knows nothing about the conference/topic :) |
| 18:22 | sometimes it works, sometimes it goes horribly wrong :) | |
| 18:22 | Thebrookinator | Yeah that's so. I'd not mind that changed or kept the same. No preference as long as it's inspirational |
| 18:22 | * rangi | is sorry he was late, i have 2 kids im trying to get ready for school and kindergarten at the same time |
| 18:23 | rangi | (everyone else is in marseille out eating dinner i suspect) |
| 18:23 | nancyk | sounds great |
| 18:23 | rangi | nancyk: maybe look at the proposals and pick one :) |
| 18:23 | Thebrookinator | ^ |
| 18:24 | rangi | at least none of those ones will want payment :) |
| 18:24 | Thebrookinator | Hehehe |
| 18:24 | nancyk | good point |
| 18:24 | #topic other | |
| 18:24 | Topic for #koha is now other (Meeting topic: KohaCon 13 Planning) | |
| 18:25 | nancyk | We are buying a Go Pro camera for some live streaming ..... The Todd cam |
| 18:25 | rangi | ohh awesome |
| 18:25 | Thebrookinator | I've to change the laundry then get to another meeting. Email me if ye want. |
| 18:26 | nancyk | ok, thaanks |
| 18:26 | i have a plan to email an invite to library orgs who might be interested in attending | |
| 18:26 | rangi | if you could do slightly delayed streaming, ie record and stream .. the recordings are useful |
| 18:26 | to look back on | |
| 18:27 | did i show you the kohacon10 ones? | |
| 18:27 | nancyk | We have a company that may do that for us for some chosen programs |
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| 18:27 | nancyk | I saw some a while ago |
| 18:28 | rangi | https://blip.tv/the-curious-and-wondering-eye/ |
| 18:28 | cool | |
| 18:28 | nancyk | i'll have a look |
| 18:29 | i also want to get a list of libraries and contacts from attendees for next year | |
| 18:29 | rangi | right, you might want to add a button the registration form then |
| 18:29 | nancyk | #topic next meeting |
| 18:29 | Topic for #koha is now next meeting (Meeting topic: KohaCon 13 Planning) | |
| 18:29 | rangi | asking (can we share your details) |
| 18:30 | nancyk | what time of day would you prefer? |
| 18:30 | what details? | |
| 18:30 | rangi | their names, library etc |
| 18:31 | nancyk | I want to be clear it will be shared with members |
| 18:31 | rangi | yep, so you will want to have a button that they can opt in to that |
| 18:31 | nancyk | ok |
| 18:31 | rangi | we have some privacy concious people |
| 18:32 | i think most will opt in though | |
| 18:32 | nancyk | would the wiki be hidden enough? |
| 18:33 | rangi | hmm if its opt in yep |
| 18:33 | i think almost everyone did at kohacon12 | |
| 18:33 | nancyk | where can i find that? |
| 18:33 | wahanui | that is, like, in march |
| 18:33 | rangi | it was shared with attendees |
| 18:34 | nancyk | next meeting March 23 |
| 18:34 | rangi | for kohacon10 we used koha to track registrations :) |
| 18:34 | and circulated people :) | |
| 18:34 | (silly gimmick) | |
| 18:34 | nancyk | but fun |
| 18:34 | rangi | yup |
| 18:35 | checked them out when the picked up their badge | |
| 18:35 | nancyk | what time of day would you like for the next meeting? |
| 18:35 | rangi | hm what time is it now for you? |
| 18:36 | nancyk | 11:38 AM |
| 18:36 | rangi | ohh easy |
| 18:36 | how about 1pm your time? | |
| 18:37 | that would be 9am | |
| 18:37 | nancyk | ok, then your kids will be in school |
| 18:37 | rangi | id be at work and could type without a 3 year old helping |
| 18:37 | and still early enough for the europeans in the evening | |
| 18:37 | (9pm for them) | |
| 18:38 | thanks very much for all your hard work, and tell me to shut up if i get annoying :) it will work out fine, it always does :) | |
| 18:39 | nancyk | i was just pulling chains |
| 18:39 | #action next meeting March 23 UTC 21 | |
| 18:40 | Thanks for not making me talk to myself .... I'm determined, not discouraged | |
| 18:41 | rangi | :) |
| 18:41 | nancyk | #endmeeting |
| 18:41 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 3 April 2013 at 10:00 UTC | |
| 18:41 | huginn | Meeting ended Tue Mar 19 18:41:18 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 18:41 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-03-19-17.59.html | |
| 18:41 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]3-03-19-17.59.txt | |
| 18:41 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]19-17.59.log.html | |
| 18:41 | rangi | ok school run time |
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| 19:05 | oleonard | 104. Help me out guys, only 5 more to get us below 100. |
| 19:07 | On the other hand, only 21 non-enhancement bugs awaiting signoff, which is a pretty nice number. | |
| 19:09 | Oh look Bug 8278 is on that list, that one looks like fun! | |
| 19:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
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| 19:31 | oleonard | A better way to say "Patron was earlier restricted until 04/03/2013" ? |
| 19:31 | * oleonard | is looking at Bug 8231 |
| 19:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8231 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Warning on Check in if borrower is restricted |
| 19:31 | oleonard | "Patron is still restricted until 04/03/2013" ? |
| 19:31 | bgallagher | Cool - how about previously restricted |
| 19:32 | oleonard | "Patron was previously restricted until 04/03/2013" Does that not potentially imply that they are no longer restricted? |
| 19:32 | bgallagher | Oh yeah it could |
| 19:34 | oleonard | Back from dinner eh bgallagher? |
| 19:35 | bgallagher | Owen I am so sick |
| 19:35 | Bad food or water sometime | |
| 19:35 | Not good | |
| 19:35 | oleonard | :( |
| 19:35 | Oh no | |
| 19:36 | bgallagher | I can finally lay in bed now so that's good and makes it better |
| 19:37 | oleonard | I sure hope you feel better soon |
| 19:39 | bgkriegel | oleonard: testing 8278, where are the publishers defined? |
| 19:40 | found: authoritites. | |
| 19:41 | oleonard | biblioitems.publishercode |
| 19:41 | It's not a true authority, just pulling from existing entries. | |
| 19:41 | bgkriegel | ok |
| 19:42 | jcamins | bug 8278 |
| 19:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 19:43 | * oleonard | crosses his fingers |
| 19:43 | bgkriegel | it works, i'm signing |
| 19:43 | jcamins | \o/ |
| 19:45 | oleonard | bgkriegel++ |
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| 20:00 | oleonard | 101 |
| 20:02 | bgkriegel | almost :) I'm redoing 5858. |
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| 20:10 | oleonard | See you later #koha |
| 20:14 | drojf | good evening #koha |
| 20:14 | how is the hackfest going? | |
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| 20:24 | jcamins | drojf: it's going well. |
| 20:24 | In fact, everyone is waiting for you to sign off on two patches and bring the needs signoff queue below 100. | |
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| 20:27 | jcamins | Bug 9817 looks fun! |
| 20:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9817 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add Goodreads reviews tab to the OPAC |
| 20:27 | jcamins | ^^ see? Fun! |
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| 20:32 | cait | hi wizzyrea |
| 20:33 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 20:33 | * jcamins | waves to wizzyrea, who surely wants to sign off on two patches. |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | I had two in mind actually, but headed into a meeting :( |
| 20:33 | but I will def try to today | |
| 20:34 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | those two may have been grabbed already |
| 20:34 | will check when I have a minute | |
| 20:34 | jcamins | You can do any two and you'll still get karma. :) |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | oh I don't care about karma - I do care about koha though |
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| 21:11 | drojf | ha. i signed off on bug 9817 |
| 21:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9817 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Add Goodreads reviews tab to the OPAC |
| 21:11 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 21:11 | drojf++ | |
| 21:17 | cait | drojf++ |
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| 21:53 | drojf | i rebased bug 9295 for your signoff pleasure |
| 21:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9295 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Introduce operator equal/ notequal to OAI set mapping instead of hardcoded 'equal' value |
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| 22:15 | dcook | Morning #koha |
| 22:32 | maximep | anyone knows why the item barcode would be shown in serials edit ? I guess PrepareItemrecordDisplay in Items never returns a value for the field ? |
| 22:46 | well, ignore that question. Turns out that code is complicated -_- | |
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| 23:34 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9843' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0ac1bad3d6d8022ef> / Bug 9843: Include OpenILS directory in Perl lib directory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4e3f90820bc8a3e1f> |
| 23:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1085 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 23:52 | rangi | http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2[…]013-tech-leaders/ |
| 23:53 | (in case it hasnt been posted before) | |
| 23:58 | bgkriegel | not here, but in the list :) |
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