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| 00:27 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 00:27 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) |
| 00:27 | gmcharlt | oldie but goodie |
| 00:30 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #77: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/77/ |
| 00:30 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 8853: Suppress links in basketgroups list | |
| 00:30 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9695 - Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches | |
| 00:30 | * Liz Rea: bug 9784: add koha-shell to the koha-common man page | |
| 00:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8853 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , clicking basketgroup name in closed basketgroups reopens it |
| 00:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9695 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches | |
| 00:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9784 minor, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell missing from koha-common man page | |
| 00:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #281 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 01:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #281: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/281/ |
| 01:08 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9695 - Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches | |
| 01:08 | * Liz Rea: bug 9784: add koha-shell to the koha-common man page | |
| 01:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9695 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches |
| 01:08 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9784 minor, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell missing from koha-common man page | |
| 01:30 | jcamins | Drat. The old attachments were not obsoleted. |
| 02:04 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1079 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 02:05 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_4906' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]46536d75cdfa9d2e2> / Bug 4906: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]57aab3be0e1e10fb8> / Bug 4906: Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iff;h=aba4f05b809 |
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| 03:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1079: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1079/ |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Add QueryParser module to Koha | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Introduce QueryParser driver for PQF | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Add syspref to enable QueryParser | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Allow the use of QueryParser for all queries | |
| 03:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries |
| 03:14 | jenkins_koha | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 follow-up: POD and perlcritic fixes |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 follow-up: update koha-conf.xml | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: fix highlighting and merge error | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA-follow-up: quiet warnings and fix problem with limits | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: escape CGI input | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: the last QA follow-up was missing a require | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: don't fall back to kw if field is specified | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: remove stray debug code | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: better error handling | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: escape quotes in searches | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: amend error handling | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: fix overeager quote escaping | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Disable QP by default | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Increment version number | |
| 03:14 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 4906: Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period | |
| 03:14 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 4906: Increment version number | |
| 03:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period |
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| 05:31 | cait | @wunder marseille |
| 05:31 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0°C (6:00 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:31 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 05:31 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.2°C (6:30 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:31 | cait | over 10 degrees difference... hmpf :) |
| 05:34 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 05:50 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #78 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 06:31 | Project Koha_3.10.x build #78: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/78/ | |
| 06:31 | Mathieu Saby: Bug 4266: Hide Encumbrance and Expenditure in aqbudgets.tt | |
| 06:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4266 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , encumbrance and expenditure not used in code |
| 06:31 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #282 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 07:08 | Project Koha_3.8.x build #282: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/282/ | |
| 07:09 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 4266: Hide Encumbrance and Expenditure in aqbudgets.tt | |
| 07:09 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 7596 - System prefs editor JS contains untranslatable English string | |
| 07:09 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9765 - Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc | |
| 07:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4266 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , encumbrance and expenditure not used in code |
| 07:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7596 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , System preferences editor JavaScript contains untranslatable English string | |
| 07:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9765 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc | |
| 07:09 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #79 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 07:48 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #79: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/79/ |
| 07:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 7596 - System prefs editor JS contains untranslatable English string | |
| 07:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9765 - Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc | |
| 07:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7596 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , System preferences editor JavaScript contains untranslatable English string |
| 07:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9765 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc | |
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| 07:58 | cait-m_ joined #koha | |
| 07:59 | rangi | hi wizzyrea and cait-m_ |
| 07:59 | wizzyrea | whaddup |
| 07:59 | cait-m_ | hello :) |
| 07:59 | on a train | |
| 07:59 | the usual | |
| 07:59 | rangi | heh |
| 07:59 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 08:00 | cait-m_ | on my way to marseille! |
| 08:03 | rangi | yay! |
| 08:04 | fredy joined #koha | |
| 08:05 | cait-m_ | yay! |
| 08:05 | zürich soon switching trains there | |
| 08:11 | @wunder marseille | |
| 08:11 | huginn | cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (9:00 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:14 | cait-m_ joined #koha | |
| 08:29 | * cait-m_ | waves again |
| 08:56 | wizzyrea | wow things coming from the US are really very slow tonight. |
| 08:56 | internet things, that is | |
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| 09:14 | rangi | hi paul_p |
| 09:19 | wizzyrea | we did finally upgrade our license to gpl3 right? |
| 09:19 | rangi | yep |
| 09:20 | wizzyrea | cool, will fix the about page which just says 2+ |
| 09:20 | unless that doesn't need to be done | |
| 09:20 | * wizzyrea | is never sure what actually matters |
| 09:23 | wizzyrea | also should we be concerned that the sudoc icon set is a by-sa-nc license? |
| 09:40 | rangi | hmm yes, yes we should |
| 09:41 | if that is the only license, then we need to remove it | |
| 09:42 | stupid nc | |
| 09:45 | at least we havent done a release with them yet | |
| 09:46 | jcamins: something we need to sort out before 3.12 released http://www.abes.fr/Sudoc/Boite[…]/Les-icones-Sudoc | |
| 09:47 | right bed time | |
| 09:48 | wizzyrea | gnite :) |
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| 10:18 | cait-m_ | @wunder marseille |
| 10:18 | huginn | cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (11:00 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:19 | cait-m_ | hm |
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| 11:39 | cait-m_ | @wunder geneve |
| 11:39 | huginn | cait-m_: The current temperature in GRAND-SACONNEX, Switzerland is 5.3°C (12:36 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:40 | cait-m_ | @wunder konstanz |
| 11:40 | huginn | cait-m_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.9°C (12:40 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:40 | cait-m_ | @wunder marseille |
| 11:40 | huginn | cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (12:30 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:43 | jcamins | Blergh. |
| 11:45 | cait-m_ | huh? |
| 11:45 | jcamins | Sudoc icons are licensed CC-BY-NC-SA. |
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| 13:26 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Correct order of updatedatabase entries <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d0f2cbeee75954a4a> |
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| 13:28 | * cait-m_ | waves from the train again |
| 13:28 | cait-m_ | @wunder marseille |
| 13:28 | huginn | cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (2:00 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:35 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1080 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1078 17 hr ago) |
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| 13:39 | * jcamins | wonders if saying "liw" three times will summon the master Debian packager. |
| 13:40 | liw | why would say my name summon eythian? |
| 13:45 | jcamins | I was thinking of you. :P |
| 13:46 | Sorry for the pause, I was walking about the apartment cogitating on version numbers. | |
| 13:46 | I want to prepare a 3.12-alpha release, with packages. | |
| 13:46 | The packages will naturally go in the squeeze-dev repo. | |
| 13:47 | What I can't figure out is how to version them so that they are considered older than the 3.12.0 release. | |
| 13:47 | (by apt) | |
| 13:49 | 3.12 will be released as 3.12.00-1. | |
| 13:50 | I'm thinking maybe the thing to do is version it 3.11.00.100~3.12alpha-1. | |
| 13:50 | Does that make sense? | |
| 13:51 | tcohen | its me or rangi is trying to hurry things to leave as RMaint? |
| 13:52 | jcamins, I like the latter | |
| 13:53 | jcamins | tcohen: everyone is very ready for the 3.12 release cycle to be over, I think. |
| 13:54 | tcohen: the problem is making the versions work with Debian's package numbering checker thing. | |
| 13:54 | So that entire thing would be the version number. | |
| 13:54 | tcohen | yes, that's whyi like the second one, it resembles how alpha and beta KDE's releases are spreaded |
| 13:55 | jcamins | Oh, excellent! |
| 13:55 | That's perfect. :) | |
| 14:00 | Let's see how many times I can roll a tarball today, shall we? | |
| 14:01 | tcohen | heh |
| 14:02 | jcamins | (hint: many, many, many times) |
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| 14:06 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Increment version for 3.12-alpha release <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]909db31d20d12461b> / Add release notes for 3.12-alpha <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6037ae6cfb0307471> |
| 14:07 | jcamins | Oh, good news: I didn't push the tag yet so I can try again if I made a mistake. |
| 14:10 | And I'm pretty sure I did. | |
| 14:11 | Wait, no, I did push it, and I did make a mistake. | |
| 14:11 | Oh well. | |
| 14:13 | * jcamins | decides to ignore it. |
| 14:27 | jcamins | Does Marseille have an 's' at the end? |
| 14:27 | No, right? | |
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| 14:29 | jcamins | Does anyone know how many people will be in Marseille? |
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| 14:42 | liw | jcamins, I'd do 3.12~alpha-1-1 for the Debian package number, actually |
| 14:42 | jcamins | liw: but will that file before 3.12.00? |
| 14:43 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1080: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1080/ |
| 14:43 | Jared Camins-Esakov: Correct order of updatedatabase entries | |
| 14:44 | liw | jcamins, you try it like this: if dpkg --compare-versions 3.12~alpha-1-1 lt 3.12.00; then echo less than; else echo greater than; fi |
| 14:44 | jcamins | Cool! |
| 14:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1081 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1078 18 hr ago) |
| 14:44 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 14:44 | liw | jcamins, basically, in Debian, ~ (tilde) sorts as less than anything else (including dot and empty string) |
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| 14:45 | jcamins | That --compare-versions flag is great to know about. |
| 15:04 | @later tell eythian Ping me when you're around, please. I want to upload a new package to squeeze-dev. | |
| 15:04 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:10 | tcohen | #koha, what do u think of signing Koha for static analysis by Coverity? |
| 15:11 | several FOSS projects like Linux, Firefox, LibreOffice use that service | |
| 15:11 | jcamins | I think it would be difficult to convince anyone to pay for it. |
| 15:12 | tcohen | its free for Open Source projects |
| 15:12 | Dyrcona | tcohen: I have no opinion, but would you mind supplying a URL for reference? |
| 15:12 | tcohen | Commercial site: http://www.coverity.com/ |
| 15:12 | Dyrcona | tcohen: ty |
| 15:12 | jcamins | Where do you get that, tcohen? |
| 15:12 | * Dyrcona | is lazy. ;) |
| 15:12 | tcohen | Coverity Scan (for FOSS code) http://scan.coverity.com/ |
| 15:12 | jcamins | I see only "request a free trial." |
| 15:13 | Ah. | |
| 15:13 | I spoke to quickly. | |
| 15:13 | tcohen | np jcamins |
| 15:13 | jcamins | *too |
| 15:13 | I think it would be a good idea. | |
| 15:13 | * Dyrcona | is trying to figure out how to add dual license headers to source files: GPLv2 and MPL 2.0. |
| 15:14 | tcohen | jcamins, I still didn't figure it out how to test for persistence-related problems, and was digging around for this kind of tools |
| 15:15 | jcamins | Dyrcona: should I ask why you'd want to? |
| 15:16 | Dyrcona | Yeah. I'm copying some MPL 2.0 code into a larger work covered by the GPL v2. |
| 15:16 | MPL 2.0 allows that, as long as the originally MPL'd code is effectively dual-licensed. | |
| 15:17 | So the person who receives the code has the option of GPL or MPL for the specific code in question. | |
| 15:19 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 15:19 | tcohen | jcamins, hsuold i try to register? |
| 15:19 | maybe I'd better ask at koha-devel first | |
| 15:19 | jcamins | tcohen: I'd ask on the mailing list first. |
| 15:20 | Do they do Perl projects, though? | |
| 15:20 | Well, I think 3.12-alpha is thoroughly released. | |
| 15:20 | tcohen | i should ask |
| 15:29 | jcamins | tcohen++ |
| 15:47 | tcohen | #koha, if I was to propose a major source reorganization (a.k.a. sanitizing the source structure), should I start a RFC wiki first? |
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| 15:50 | tcohen | jcamins++ for the marketing campaign to get more signers |
| 15:51 | jcamins | tcohen: RFCs are always a good idea, but better to do things gradually, I think. |
| 15:51 | (and submit patches that do things in very small chunks) | |
| 15:51 | tcohen | yes, of course |
| 15:52 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1081: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1081/ |
| 15:52 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add release notes for 3.12-alpha | |
| 15:52 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Increment version for 3.12-alpha release | |
| 15:52 | tcohen | but I wouldn't do that if there was no consensus about how to achieve it |
| 15:52 | jcamins | There will never be much in the way of consensus. |
| 15:53 | Person A will insist that we must use Moose for EVERYTHING. | |
| 15:53 | Person B will insist that we should just use Dancer. | |
| 15:53 | Person C mojolicious. | |
| 15:53 | Person D Catalyst. | |
| 15:53 | Etc. | |
| 15:54 | tcohen | I just want to propose something like: create a src/lib dir to put C4 and Koha in |
| 15:54 | src/opac src/intranet | |
| 15:55 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 15:55 | tcohen | that will make things like Makefiles and install scripts easier to maintain |
| 15:55 | of course I will mimic Dancer way of organizing stuf :-P :-P | |
| 15:56 | jcamins | Hehe. |
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| 16:09 | tcohen | any thoughts about sphinx? |
| 16:11 | jcamins | tcohen: none. |
| 16:11 | cait | th eone with the riddles? :P |
| 16:11 | * cait | waves from a hotel in marseille!! |
| 16:11 | cait | no more trains today, so glad |
| 16:11 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 16:12 | cait | so um. does someeone else remember when bag said he will arrive in marseille? :P |
| 16:12 | jcamins | No. |
| 16:12 | logs? | |
| 16:12 | wahanui | logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 16:13 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 16:13 | cait | i tried |
| 16:13 | hi NateC | |
| 16:13 | jcamins | Ask NateC? |
| 16:13 | cait | have yo uheard from bag eventually? |
| 16:13 | NateC | hi cait and jcamins |
| 16:13 | cait | jcamins: I am :) |
| 16:14 | NateC | bag is in Paris at the hackfest me thinks |
| 16:14 | i just got back from vacation | |
| 16:14 | so im a little out of touch myself | |
| 16:14 | tcohen | isn't bag logged here actually? |
| 16:15 | cait | NateC: the hackfest is in marseille ;) |
| 16:15 | jcamins | tcohen: yeah, but that's just bip. |
| 16:15 | cait | and I am here at the hotel, wondering when they might be in :) |
| 16:15 | NateC | see out of touch :) |
| 16:15 | ah | |
| 16:15 | cant help you there unfortunately :( | |
| 16:17 | cait | ok |
| 16:17 | i left a note at the hackfest google spreadshee thingy | |
| 16:17 | tcohen | http://blogs.perl.org/users/mi[…]r-and-sphinx.html |
| 16:17 | jcamins | How many people will be there? |
| 16:17 | cait | I think around 30 |
| 16:17 | dpavlin is here to take me for coffee | |
| 16:17 | talk to you all later :) | |
| 16:17 | jcamins | Bye. |
| 16:24 | tcohen | jcamins, what is moose the common factor for dancer, mojolicious, catalyst and moose itself? |
| 16:24 | s/what// | |
| 16:25 | jcamins | I'm not sure if mojolicious uses moose, but certainly the other three do. |
| 16:26 | Mouse would probably be a better goal for 3.14. | |
| 16:27 | We're making our way toward persistence, but only slowly. | |
| 16:30 | Speaking of which... | |
| 16:30 | * jcamins | goes looking for the nginx/Plack bug. |
| 16:30 | tcohen | persistence as in ORM or DBIx::Class? |
| 16:31 | jcamins | Persistence as in Plack. |
| 16:32 | libsysguy | so I think that the difference between moose moo and mouse is trivial |
| 16:32 | tcohen | "solve variable persistence problems that arise when running Koha under Plack" |
| 16:32 | libsysguy | in terms of actual application use |
| 16:32 | tcohen | Moo and Mouse are similar, and Moose is heavy? |
| 16:32 | libsysguy | just use the immutable function in moose and you'll be fine |
| 16:32 | jcamins | libsysguy: yeah, but in terms of overhead, mouse is a lot more practical under CGI. |
| 16:33 | libsysguy | I don't know if I'd consider any of them under CGI :p |
| 16:33 | jcamins | Oh, you said moo. |
| 16:33 | tcohen: right. I don't care which one. | |
| 16:33 | (mouse or moo) | |
| 16:33 | libsysguy | moo and mouse are basically truncated versions of Moose |
| 16:33 | which is heavy | |
| 16:34 | tcohen | libsysguy: would they run fine under mod_perl¡ |
| 16:34 | ? | |
| 16:34 | libsysguy | I'm not sure that is the right direction to take |
| 16:34 | jcamins | tcohen: better to focus on Plack. |
| 16:34 | libsysguy | I think to successfully run them you are going to want plack |
| 16:34 | yeah…what jcamins said | |
| 16:34 | jcamins | We are closer to Plack compatibility than mod_perl compatibility. |
| 16:35 | By a longshot. | |
| 16:35 | tcohen | moose + immutable looks fine me :-P |
| 16:35 | libsysguy | there are going to be several iterations of refactors before any of them are going to work |
| 16:36 | * libsysguy | knows since he has been pushing for this for…a year? |
| 16:36 | libsysguy | is a year about right jcamins? |
| 16:36 | jcamins | Something like that. |
| 16:37 | libsysguy | tcohen I pushed for catalyst |
| 16:37 | but I just didn't have the time to do it myself | |
| 16:37 | and without a successful proof of concept I didn't make it far with discussion alone :p | |
| 16:41 | anywho thats my two cents on the subject :p | |
| 16:41 | * libsysguy | goes back down the hole |
| 16:41 | jcamins | tcohen: pity about Coverity. |
| 16:42 | Dyrcona: Coverity supports C/C++/Java only, but EG has a fair amount of that, so it might be worth looking into. | |
| 17:05 | Dyrcona | jcamins: Thanks. I'll make a note of that. |
| 17:39 | * jcamins | waves vigorously to druthb. |
| 17:40 | * druthb | waves back, slightly less-vigorously. |
| 17:41 | druthb | @later tell wizzyrea "oh, he's good on longer trips," she says, and ho ho ho...Pixel meowed worriedly pretty-much nonstop for eighteen hours. |
| 17:41 | huginn | druthb: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:41 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:41 | druthb | Cap was givin' him the stink eye, like "will you PUH-LEASE STFU?" :P |
| 17:41 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:44 | druthb | They seem to be adapting well, though. They've discovered how to perch in my bedroom window, which has a decent-ish view of the pool (and our AC unit, which makes interesting noises) |
| 17:45 | jcamins | If they're anything like Myshkin, they can perch on *anything* if it gives them a view of birds. |
| 17:45 | druthb | oh, wait...I'm sorry...jcamins, didn't you say yesterday that it was *snowing* there? We've got folks laying out by the pool in eeety-bitty things. |
| 17:45 | tsk. | |
| 17:45 | * druthb | thinks about jcamins' snow, and is not-jelly. |
| 17:45 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 17:45 | It's not snowing today, at least. | |
| 18:42 | rangi | jcamins++ #good newsletter and 3.12-alpha |
| 18:43 | !jenkins build koha_master now | |
| 18:43 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
| 18:43 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 18:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1082 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1078 22 hr ago) |
| 18:47 | libsysguy_afk | druthb? |
| 18:47 | wahanui | druthb is our translation manager for 3.12 |
| 18:47 | rangi | @later tell tcohen ive already started that https://gitorious.org/koha/mai[…]its/tidy_intranet |
| 18:47 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:47 | druthb | libsysguy? |
| 18:47 | wahanui | libsysguy is koha's hottest developer or partying with Swedes on his deck |
| 18:48 | libsysguy_afk | druthb you made it?!?! |
| 18:48 | welcome to the H! | |
| 18:48 | druthb | No. I am a well-defined figment of your imagination. |
| 18:48 | jcamins | Is that well-defined in the Haskell or PHP sense? |
| 18:48 | druthb | :P |
| 18:48 | "Yes." | |
| 18:48 | jcamins | PHP, then. |
| 18:49 | libsysguy_afk | I prefer to think of it as a well defined set in mathematics |
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| 19:08 | rangi | right time to take the kids to school then off to work |
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| 19:26 | drojf | jcamins: i just updated master. when i turn on UseQueryParser my search is broken |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea joined #koha | |
| 19:26 | jcamins | drojf: !!! |
| 19:26 | How so? | |
| 19:27 | drojf | Software error: Can't call method "new" on an undefined value at /home/mirko/koha/C4/Context.pm line 959. |
| 19:27 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 19:27 | drojf | when i turn ot off all is fine again |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Uhhh... |
| 19:27 | * jcamins | scratches his head. |
| 19:28 | jcamins | Did you restart plack? |
| 19:30 | drojf | it's apache, i have not tried plack yet |
| 19:30 | jcamins | Hrm. |
| 19:30 | Definitely working for me. | |
| 19:30 | drojf | weird |
| 19:30 | jcamins | You could fix it by changing that line to "return defined($context->{"queryparser"}) ? $context->{"queryparser"}->new : undef" |
| 19:31 | But that doesn't explain why there's a problem. | |
| 19:31 | * jcamins | thinks. |
| 19:31 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 19:32 | I know! QueryParser must be missing. | |
| 19:32 | Do you have QueryParser.pm anywhere? | |
| 19:32 | (locate QueryParser.pm) | |
| 19:33 | drojf | doing the updatedb at the moment |
| 19:33 | /home/mirko/koha/OpenILS/QueryParser.pm | |
| 19:33 | that looks ok | |
| 19:33 | jcamins | It does indeed. |
| 19:34 | You are using a git install, right? | |
| 19:34 | drojf | yes |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Hmmm... |
| 19:34 | Could you try `perl -c /home/mirko/koha/Koha/QueryParser/PQF.pm`? | |
| 19:35 | drojf | that does not exist |
| 19:35 | jcamins | It doesn't? |
| 19:35 | Oh. | |
| 19:35 | No. | |
| 19:35 | It doesn't. | |
| 19:36 | I will find an actual path and give it to you. | |
| 19:36 | drojf | i have it |
| 19:36 | thanks | |
| 19:36 | mirkodebian:~/koha$ perl -c /home/mirko/koha/Koha/QueryParser/Driver/PQF.pm |
|
| 19:36 | /home/mirko/koha/Koha/QueryParser/Driver/PQF.pm syntax OK | |
| 19:36 | jcamins | Oh! |
| 19:36 | Of course. | |
| 19:36 | You didn't rerun the installer, did you? | |
| 19:37 | There's a new configuration file that koha-conf.xml needs to point to. | |
| 19:37 | drojf | ah. no, i think i didn't. it ran the webinstaller |
| 19:38 | jcamins | I am updating bug 9239 to note that if you don't run the installer you need to edit koha-conf.xml by hand. |
| 19:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries |
| 19:39 | jcamins | Updated with instructions. |
| 19:39 | * tcohen | thinks upgrade should run smooth for people using 3.10 |
| 19:40 | jcamins | tcohen: no, if you're using git and don't follow the upgrade instructions, it will be a problem no matter what version. |
| 19:40 | This is not an issue with standard and package installs, though. | |
| 19:40 | tcohen | M-kay |
| 19:41 | * jcamins | reports a bug that non-updated koha-conf.xml files have issues. |
| 19:41 | bgkriegel | jcamins: near bottom, but in config block? |
| 19:41 | jcamins | bgkriegel: right. |
| 19:42 | drojf | yay, it works \o/ and i can throw onmotivated '!' in there now \o/ |
| 19:42 | jcamins++ | |
| 19:42 | jcamins | :) |
| 19:42 | drojf | unmotivated even |
| 19:43 | parenthesis too. nice :) | |
| 19:47 | jcamins | bug 9832 is awaiting your sign-off. |
| 19:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9832 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , QueryParser causes software error if koha-conf.xml has not been updated |
| 19:48 | drojf | will do |
| 19:49 | tcohen | so, did bag get to the hackfest? |
| 19:50 | jcamins | I don't think we know. |
| 19:52 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 19:52 | Project Koha_master build #1082: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1082/ | |
| 19:55 | drojf | signed off |
| 19:55 | wahanui | well, signed off is the queue the QA team should watch |
| 19:56 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 20:02 | tcohen | no coverity for us jcamins |
| 20:02 | jcamins | tcohen: yeah, I saw. |
| 20:02 | tcohen | will keep an eye on the subject anyway |
| 20:05 | drojf | in other news, i am very happy that david hasselhoff came to berlin today to save the berlin wall ^^ |
| 20:10 | rangi | heh |
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| 20:20 | tcohen | did he bring his super-car drojf ? |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:23 | tcohen | if he broght it, the wall is saved, FOR SURE |
| 20:23 | drojf | tcohen: you mean this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jWIq8VowQY |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | we don't have a bug for the sudoc icons yet eh |
| 20:24 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I posted a question on the bug that added them. |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | cool |
| 20:24 | jcamins | If I don't have to revert them, I won't. |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | nc is worrysome |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 20:25 | But it's possible that they're dual-licensed and we don't know... see quote 123 for why someone would dual-license icons. ;) | |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | I guess |
| 20:27 | drojf | tcohen: my favourite pic is this one https://twitter.com/YaotzinBer[…]824/photo/1/large but someone actually came with this http://instagram.com/p/W9rOZjn4SX/ |
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| 20:40 | * cait | waves |
| 20:40 | tcohen | r u kidding drojf ? is that the real car??? |
| 20:42 | eythian | hi |
| 20:42 | drojf | tcohen: i think it is the same model, but does not have the cool red lights :D |
| 20:43 | hi cait and eythian | |
| 20:43 | jcamins | eythian: I would like to provide a 3.12-alpha package on debian.koha-community.org. |
| 20:43 | I can build the package, but what do I do with it once it's built? | |
| 20:44 | cait | hi drojf and jcamins and eythian and tcohen and everyone else :) |
| 20:44 | jcamins | Also, liw recommended 3.12~alpha1 for the version... thoughts? |
| 20:44 | tcohen | hi cait, how r our french fellows behaving? |
| 20:44 | cait | have only met the international lot so far :) |
| 20:44 | french tomorrow | |
| 20:44 | rangi | my rule of thumb, if liw suggests something to do with debian i do it :-) |
| 20:45 | jcamins | rangi: mine too. |
| 20:45 | eythian | jcamins: this is so that people can manually install the alpha from the repo? |
| 20:45 | jcamins | eythian: right. |
| 20:45 | Sticking it in squeeze-dev so that no one gets upgraded. | |
| 20:45 | (automatically) | |
| 20:45 | eythian | though 3.12~alpha1 will superscede 3.11, which is the master build. |
| 20:46 | jcamins | Hmm. |
| 20:46 | * eythian | double checks version numbers, but I think that's the case |
| 20:46 | jcamins | I also thought about 3.11.00.100~3.12alpha1, since 3.11.00.100 is the version of the alpha. |
| 20:47 | eythian | master versions are formatted like: 3.11-1~git+20130312145747.85385f2e |
| 20:47 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 20:47 | eythian | I don't know off the top of my head if 3.11.00 will be less than that. |
| 20:47 | jcamins | And they're automatically generated daily? |
| 20:48 | eythian | no, they're semi-manually generated roughly weekly |
| 20:48 | jcamins | So in other words, we could generate a regular snapshot sometime before I push anything else and we'll have an alpha package for the rest of the week, which was my goal. |
| 20:49 | eythian | so, master now is what will be your 3.12 branch? |
| 20:49 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:50 | eythian | because if so, that'd be very easy and I could do it right now |
| 20:50 | jcamins | Yes please! |
| 20:50 | * eythian | is on it |
| 20:50 | jcamins | And the version numbers remain 3.11.00.xxx. |
| 20:50 | eythian | yeah |
| 20:50 | well, 3.11-1~git+.... | |
| 20:51 | jcamins | I mean, the version numbers in kohaversion will remain 3.11.00.xxx until release, or at least until string freeze. |
| 20:51 | eythian | oh right, yeah |
| 20:51 | reminds me, need to submit packaging updates for 3.12. Might do that soon too. | |
| 20:51 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 20:53 | rangi | the alpha is looking pretty good, (well in the 2 hours ive had it running :)) |
| 20:54 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 20:55 | cait | rangi: coul dyou test something for me? |
| 20:55 | search system preferneces: opactheme | |
| 20:55 | and then change it and hit save | |
| 20:55 | it should be the only pref on that page | |
| 20:55 | * eythian | produces 3.11-1~git+20130318095437.6100d874 |
| 20:57 | rangi | in master? |
| 20:59 | cait | yep |
| 21:00 | rangi | works for me |
| 21:00 | what should happen? | |
| 21:01 | cait | perl error explode |
| 21:01 | jcamins | It should work. :P |
| 21:01 | cait | hash something in the url |
| 21:01 | jcamins | Yikes! |
| 21:01 | rangi | hmm i dont get that |
| 21:02 | cait | maybe a 3.10 bug then |
| 21:02 | I had it happen when I was doing the presentations at th booth... like always | |
| 21:02 | rangi | lemme checkout 3.10 and try |
| 21:02 | cait | oh cool thx |
| 21:02 | i will be right back | |
| 21:03 | rangi | yep it is there in 3.10.x |
| 21:03 | Template process failed: file error - /home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/HASH(0x5210998).pref: not found at /home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/C4/Templates.pm line 132. | |
| 21:04 | cait | oh right that |
| 21:04 | wahanui | right that is what I was thinking :D |
| 21:04 | rangi | preferences.pl?tab=HASH(0x5210998) |
| 21:04 | cait | yeah, looks not too nice |
| 21:04 | rangi | somethign is not deferencing |
| 21:04 | cjh | cait: badluck :( |
| 21:04 | rangi | where it should |
| 21:04 | * cait | nods |
| 21:04 | rangi | always in a demoe |
| 21:04 | -e | |
| 21:04 | ill have a look and fix | |
| 21:04 | cait | cjh: I always find bugs when I show koha to someone - it's just like that *shrug* |
| 21:04 | awesome rangi | |
| 21:06 | eythian | a) I like my new computer, it's so fast, b) new master packages uploading right now |
| 21:06 | cait | :) |
| 21:06 | we like your new computer too | |
| 21:06 | what did you get? | |
| 21:06 | cjh | cait: live demos are always risky, but on the bright side you found an important bug :D |
| 21:06 | eythian | cait: 4-core i7-3770 |
| 21:06 | cait | can't avoid people asking for a demo :) |
| 21:07 | I also foudn the "duplicate message breaks fast add bug" | |
| 21:07 | eythian | (my old work computer was difficult to upgrade to 8GB of RAM, so they gave me a new one instead) |
| 21:07 | cait | if someone is interested in fixing that in 3.10 if it isn't already |
| 21:07 | if you enter a fast add that brings up a duplicate message ( i already had a record with title fast add) the checkout does not happen | |
| 21:07 | eythian: hm | |
| 21:08 | eythian | cait: also, I got to install the OS myself, it runs VMs fast, and it's on the real network ;) |
| 21:08 | cait | eythian: you are such a meany :) |
| 21:08 | where do I see that information in ubuntu? | |
| 21:09 | rangi | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 21:09 | eythian | I think there's a GUI way, but I just cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 21:09 | rangi | snap |
| 21:09 | cait | Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz × 8 |
| 21:09 | found the gui way | |
| 21:09 | guess you win :) | |
| 21:09 | eythian | ah yep, though it's really a 4-core as it's hyperthreaded |
| 21:09 | (which makes each processor look like 2) | |
| 21:10 | still not too shabby | |
| 21:10 | cait | lol thx |
| 21:10 | eythian | Not sure what my old one was, but it wasn't nearly that good. Though its main problem was only 4GB RAM which was always full. |
| 21:13 | tcohen | yeah, 8GB rules |
| 21:13 | 4GB is soooo 2010 :-P | |
| 21:14 | cait | brb |
| 21:14 | rangi | hmm thats been broken since 3.8 |
| 21:15 | i must have missed a fix that was pushed to master hunting down now | |
| 21:16 | tcohen | no opactheme to choose in 3.8 |
| 21:16 | eythian | tcohen: yeah, I'd end up with 95% of RAM and 70% of swap used. It got painful. |
| 21:16 | rangi | tcohen: no its anything that only has one result |
| 21:17 | tcohen | yes but i cannot save and see what happens |
| 21:18 | rangi | im bisecting it, ill find the error soon :) |
| 21:19 | tcohen | bisecting master |
| 21:19 | ? | |
| 21:19 | rangi | dangit now i can recreate |
| 21:22 | heh i hate those kind of bugs | |
| 21:22 | i can no longer make the error occur | |
| 21:24 | cjh | rangi: so its fixed in master, but broken on 3.8 and 3.10? |
| 21:24 | rangi | well nope |
| 21:24 | i had it occur once on 3.10.x | |
| 21:24 | but i cant make it do it again, it appears fixed everywhere | |
| 21:25 | cjh | heh |
| 21:25 | rangi | ill see if cait can bisect it at the hackfest |
| 21:25 | i cant track it down | |
| 21:26 | cjh | schrodinbug |
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| 21:31 | rangi | yeah |
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| 23:55 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 23:55 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #63: "<jwagner> But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!" (added by jdavidb at 01:50 PM, March 01, 2010) |
| 23:55 | gmcharlt | *shudder* |
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