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| 00:00 | bgallagher joined #koha | |
| 00:02 | dcook | hey bgallagher |
| 00:02 | wahanui | bgallagher is not sure yet cait I have not got train tickets |
| 00:02 | dcook | Are there two of you now? |
| 00:02 | bgallagher | Yes |
| 00:02 | Updates on my computer | |
| 00:02 | Using backup | |
| 00:03 | dcook | Hmm, sounds less stressful than having a clone |
| 00:03 | Potentially | |
| 00:03 | bgallagher | Clone would be nice |
| 00:04 | dcook | I don't think I ever saw the end of Multiplicity, but I can't imagine it turned out well |
| 00:04 | bgallagher | Ha |
| 00:06 | wizzyrea | I want pizza steve |
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| 01:07 | dcook | Hmm, is there a CLI script to auto-generate authorities from existing subject tags? |
| 01:09 | link_bibs_to_authorities.pl looks like it's only useful if the authorities already exist... | |
| 01:10 | jcamins | dcook: that is correct. |
| 01:10 | wajasu has been trying to use it to generate authorities. | |
| 01:10 | It has not been working well. | |
| 01:10 | dcook | :/ |
| 01:10 | jcamins | Unsurprisingly, since it was not designed to do anything of the sort. |
| 01:11 | dcook | Makes sense |
| 01:11 | link_bibs_to_authorities.pl sounds like it does exactly what it needs to do | |
| 01:11 | Well...maybe | |
| 01:12 | You have your authorities and then you want to link your bibs to them...makes sense. I suppose you still might end up with bibs that don't have authorized headings, but...c'est la vie | |
| 01:12 | Although I suppose it might be nice to be able to autogenerate whatever ones don't match.. | |
| 01:12 | * dcook | babbles some more |
| 01:13 | dcook | I suppose I was just wondering if there was already a programmatic way of generating authorities from existing tags, instead of having people turning on "AutoCreateAuthorities" and then opening and saving their bib records |
| 01:15 | jcamins | No. |
| 01:15 | eythian | dcook: there isn't, but it's not hard to do by extracting them and using csvtomarc |
| 01:15 | I've done it before, I think it took <` hour to do. | |
| 01:15 | jcamins | It would be useful, but no one has paid for it. |
| 01:15 | eythian | <1 hour |
| 01:16 | dcook | jcamins: Good to know :) |
| 01:16 | eythian: I'm not sure I u nderstand... | |
| 01:17 | eythian | dcook: you extract all the subject headings in your data into a one-column csv file, and then run csvtomarc to create an authorities MARC file that you import. |
| 01:17 | csvtomarc is an external script to help with migrations. | |
| 01:17 | dcook | Hmmm, that would do the trick |
| 01:17 | Mmm | |
| 01:17 | jcamins | The trick is the subfield markers. |
| 01:17 | Not a difficult trick, you understand. | |
| 01:17 | Just something that you want to make sure to take into account. | |
| 01:18 | eythian | yeah, it won't do them very well, as it is now. |
| 01:19 | dcook | Hmm, good to know. This is a pretty simple case, so it shouldn't be too big of a deal, I imagine |
| 01:19 | But good to be aware :) | |
| 01:20 | Whereabouts does one find the csvtomarc.pl file? | |
| 01:20 | jcamins | koha migration toolbox? |
| 01:20 | wahanui | rumour has it koha migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
| 01:20 | dcook | I think I see a few references to Catalyst and jcamins's repos |
| 01:20 | jcamins | ^^ |
| 01:20 | eythian | I really really need to update the version in there |
| 01:20 | but it'll do for your purposes. | |
| 01:20 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:21 | jcamins | Actually, use mine. |
| 01:21 | http://git.cpbibliography.com/[…]box.git;a=summary | |
| 01:22 | It has a number of authority-related scripts. | |
| 01:22 | And fixes a bug in the auth header generation. | |
| 01:22 | *leader | |
| 01:23 | dcook | Cool beans. Thanks, jcamins |
| 01:23 | So, csvtomarc.pl to transform the csv into marc authorities | |
| 01:23 | jcamins | Right. |
| 01:23 | dcook | Then bulkauthimport.pl? |
| 01:24 | Then link_bibs_to_authorities.pl | |
| 01:25 | jcamins | bulkmarcimport. |
| 01:25 | eythian | don't forget to reindex zebra pretty much between each step |
| 01:25 | jcamins | bulkauthimport should not be used ever. |
| 01:26 | eythian | it probably should be deleted |
| 01:26 | jcamins | It should be. |
| 01:30 | eythian | bug 9035 needs signoff |
| 01:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9035 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , remove deprecated 'bulkauthimport.pl' file |
| 01:35 | dcook | No quams about me signing off on it? |
| 01:35 | jcamins | None. |
| 01:40 | bag | almost a week left till first freeze :) |
| 01:40 | eythian | but it's 22° outside, that's not near freezing! |
| 01:41 | dcook | Today was rather warm.. |
| 01:41 | bag | I need to find someone to sign off on (edifact bug) since libsysguy has added the unit tests |
| 01:41 | is that correct jcamins? Or could another bywater person sign off on it - since it's originally from ptfs-europe? | |
| 01:42 | my thought is my statement is correct - we shouldn't have another bywater person test/sign-off :) | |
| 01:43 | eythian | dcook: signoff process is that you apply the patch, check that it does what it claims, and then add the signed-off patch to the bug. |
| 01:44 | That way you get counted in the stats :) | |
| 01:44 | jcamins | bag: you are correct, you need to find someone else to sign off. |
| 01:44 | dcook | Yep, just attaching it now, eythian |
| 01:44 | jcamins | libsysguy did some rather extensive work on the EDIFACT code. |
| 01:44 | bag | thought soo… I will not bug khall tomorrow then :) |
| 01:44 | dcook | Usually I would change bugzilla second, but for some reason I did it first today :S |
| 01:45 | bag | well that was my opinion too jared… didn't seem right :) |
| 01:45 | eythian | dcook: ah, sweet as then |
| 01:46 | dcook: it's also an option to add comments to the commit message below your signoff | |
| 01:46 | but by no means compulsory | |
| 01:46 | oh, you're way ahead of me | |
| 01:46 | dcook | *shrug* |
| 01:46 | eythian | pretend I'm not saying anything |
| 01:46 | dcook | The confirmation of what to do is appreciated nonetheless |
| 01:47 | The absence of scolding doesn't necessarily fill one with confidence either, so confirmation...always good :D | |
| 01:47 | eythian | heh |
| 01:48 | yay, we have two new confirmed Koha clients to migrate early this year. | |
| 01:48 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 01:48 | dcook | :D |
| 01:49 | wizzyrea | also we have a couple of libraries wanting to put into the pot for cover image fallback - so if you know anybody who wants to contribute to that, send them our way |
| 01:50 | eythian | @later tell magnuse <wizzyrea> also we have a couple of libraries wanting to put into the pot for cover image fallback - so if you know anybody who wants to contribute to that, send them our way |
| 01:50 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:50 | eythian | I have a feeling he's been interested in it |
| 01:50 | dcook | Cover image fallback? |
| 01:51 | eythian | so if google doesn't have the cover, try amazon, and so on |
| 01:51 | dcook | Mmm |
| 01:51 | Rather than the current...mishmash | |
| 01:51 | 'twould be nice | |
| 01:57 | * wizzyrea | gets the popcorn for these tweets |
| 01:57 | wajasu | i deleted all my auths. ran a tweaked script to read all biblios headings and gen auths into memory hash, creating when no matching heading found and updating the $9s. at the end, i saved the auths to the db, and did modbiblio with the $9s |
| 02:06 | dcook | Did the trick in the end, wajasu? |
| 02:07 | eythian: this script is ginormous! | |
| 02:07 | eythian | it is something of a monster, yes |
| 02:07 | I swear, it started as something small and simple... | |
| 02:08 | wizzyrea | he says that every time. |
| 02:08 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:12 | Does it read the first row of the csv as a header? | |
| 02:14 | eythian | yeah |
| 02:16 | dcook | Sweet. All right, let's give this script a go.. |
| 02:20 | Hmm, stopped before I could begin | |
| 02:20 | Don't have Business::ISSN installed | |
| 02:20 | eythian | you'll need to install that then :) |
| 02:20 | dcook | Blarg :p |
| 02:21 | I don't have root on this system. I really need to set up a Debian instance at home... | |
| 02:21 | eythian | ah |
| 02:21 | that'd be annoying | |
| 02:22 | it's not too hard to do a local cpan install | |
| 02:23 | dcook | Hmm |
| 02:23 | As a regular user? | |
| 02:26 | jcamins | Sure. |
| 02:26 | eythian | yeah |
| 02:27 | dcook | Looks like we have a different local script for generating authorities from the bibs, but I'm still intrigued... |
| 02:27 | eythian | you can tell cpan where to put stuff, and then modify PERL5LIB to point there. |
| 02:27 | dcook | That's what I was thinking off the top of my head |
| 02:27 | But I wasn't sure if it was more complicated than that | |
| 02:27 | eythian | it's not really |
| 02:27 | dcook | so "cpanm Business::ISSN"? |
| 02:32 | Mmm, I think I got it now | |
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| 02:32 | eythian | dcook: well, you will have to configure span and tell it where to put things first |
| 02:32 | dcook | http://search.cpan.org/~apeiro[…]/lib/local/lib.pm |
| 02:32 | eythian | but I think it asks all those questions the first time you run it |
| 02:32 | dcook | :) |
| 02:33 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:34 | dcook | Of course I don't have local::lib... |
| 02:35 | hi druthb :) | |
| 02:35 | druthb | Hi, dcook! :) |
| 02:35 | jcamins | dcook: I just use regular cpan. |
| 02:35 | eythian | yeah, you don't have to do anything fancy |
| 02:35 | just make sure you tell cpan what's going on | |
| 02:35 | dcook | I've never used cpan before :p |
| 02:35 | And only seen it used maybe twice | |
| 02:36 | eythian | it's very straight forward |
| 02:37 | just type 'cpan' | |
| 02:37 | if that doesn't work, try perl -MCPAN -e shell | |
| 02:49 | dcook | Hmm neither seems too happy about me not being the root user |
| 02:49 | Due to the location of the working directory | |
| 02:49 | It does prompt for user configuration though... | |
| 02:49 | "Please make sure the directory exists and is writable." seems ominous though | |
| 02:50 | Hmm lunch time in any case | |
| 02:50 | eythian | well point it to somewhere that exists and is writable by you |
| 02:50 | dcook | Thanks again for the help jcamins and eythian :) |
| 02:50 | But how does one do that? | |
| 02:51 | Through that user configuration? | |
| 02:51 | eythian | you said it's prompting for the directory? |
| 02:51 | dcook | Nope |
| 02:51 | eythian | did it ask you a brazillion questions the first time? |
| 02:52 | dcook | It seems like it's on the way to doing so |
| 02:52 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "CPAN config" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/435 |
| 02:52 | eythian | oh |
| 02:52 | say yes | |
| 02:53 | dcook | All right |
| 02:53 | Would you like me to configure as much as possible automatically? | |
| 02:53 | "Would you like me to configure as much as possible automatically? " * | |
| 02:53 | eythian | umm. try it see what happens |
| 02:53 | it's always possible to start over | |
| 02:56 | dcook | All right, I think it's all configured.. |
| 02:56 | eythian | cool |
| 02:57 | dcook | Or at least it's stopped asking me questions :p |
| 02:57 | eythian | that's usually a sign :) |
| 02:57 | dcook | Hmm.. |
| 02:58 | That didn't work so well me thinks.. | |
| 02:59 | eythian | why? |
| 02:59 | dcook | Cannot create directory /root/.cpan/prefs |
| 02:59 | eythian | why is it trying to put stuff in /root in the first place? |
| 02:59 | dcook | No idea |
| 03:00 | eythian | perhaps rm -r ~/.cpan and start over, but answer all the questions yourself |
| 03:00 | dcook | I don't see a mention of it in the config either.. |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | what's your cwd? |
| 03:01 | presumably ~/ | |
| 03:02 | dcook | yep |
| 03:02 | ugh safe removals.. | |
| 03:06 | aha! | |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 03:10 | dcook | Configuration done better this time and Business::ISSN downloaded |
| 03:12 | Hmm, missed a config variable somewhere... | |
| 03:13 | It wants to put it into usr/lib rather than my local dir | |
| 03:18 | Oh well...lunch time | |
| 04:01 | wajasu | dcook: my hacked scripts works. the library came alive. 15000 biblios genereated 16000 auths. i turned on UseTtracingForAuths. got more subject links. |
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| 05:20 | dcook | http://ask.metafilter.com/7512[…]install-directory |
| 05:21 | This is the bit that I was missing: "o conf makepl_arg 'PREFIX=/home/you/lib/perl5'" | |
| 05:21 | Persistence ftw | |
| 05:26 | rangi | jcamins: about? |
| 05:26 | dcook | I think he headed off to bed 30-60 minutes ago |
| 05:27 | rangi | dang |
| 05:27 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fb48bd7dfc3#l6447 | |
| 05:27 | 10 points if you can spot the problem :) | |
| 05:28 | dcook | lol |
| 05:28 | rangi | its simple once you see it |
| 05:31 | (you got it, or want a hint?) | |
| 05:33 | dcook | Got distracted :P. Apparently some hackers in Canada had a pretty good time hacking all sorts of devices and broswers today |
| 05:33 | rangi | ahhh fun |
| 05:33 | dcook | Word of mouth. I haven't seen any posts about it |
| 05:34 | I'll take a hint though ;) | |
| 05:35 | rangi | look at the order of version numbers |
| 05:36 | dcook | Ah |
| 05:36 | rangi | hence the last one is never being run |
| 05:36 | dcook | Indeed |
| 05:36 | rangi | and that is why the testss are failing, took me a while to spot it |
| 05:37 | dcook | Admittedly, I was looking for missing brackets and the like. Just skimmed the numbers the first time |
| 05:39 | Quick question. | |
| 05:40 | Just like any other env variable, I can separate multiple PERL5LIB paths using a colon, yes? | |
| 05:45 | rangi | yes |
| 05:47 | dcook | Hmm |
| 05:53 | rangi | marshall breeding talking now |
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| 06:19 | * cait | waves |
| 06:20 | dcook | hola cait :) |
| 06:20 | cait | hi dcook |
| 06:20 | :) | |
| 06:24 | dcook | Good morning so far? |
| 06:39 | eythian: to get csvtomarc.pl to work for authorities, do you just pass in a different leader? | |
| 06:42 | Probably some user supplied controlfields too.. | |
| 06:42 | And 942... | |
| 06:46 | Hmm, cool beans | |
| 06:46 | eythian++ | |
| 06:46 | jcamins++ | |
| 06:49 | cait | :) |
| 06:51 | dcook | night/morning/afternoon, kohafolks |
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| 07:12 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! happy pizza friday! |
| 07:13 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 07:14 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 07:34 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 07:35 | * cait | is on a mission to get all that ckae to work :) |
| 07:35 | cait | bbl |
| 07:35 | magnuse | yay |
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| 07:35 | magnuse | lucky coworkers |
| 07:35 | well, if cait intends to share, that is... | |
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| 07:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:45 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 07:46 | reiveune | salut magnuse :) |
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| 07:56 | magnuse | bonjour sophie_m |
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| 08:02 | asaurat | hi! |
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| 08:03 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 08:06 | marcelr | @later tell jcamins please look at bug 9767 |
| 08:06 | huginn | marcelr: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:07 | Joubu | yop |
| 08:07 | hello #koha | |
| 08:07 | marcelr | hi Joubu |
| 08:09 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
| 08:09 | marcelr | hi sophie_m |
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| 08:10 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 08:11 | sophie_m | magnuse: have you found a solution to come from Nice ? |
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| 08:12 | magnuse | sophie_m: yeah, bus (or taxi) from airport to train, then train to marseille |
| 08:13 | oops Bug 7376 | |
| 08:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7376 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Failed QA , Transfer limits should be checked at check-in |
| 08:13 | magnuse | critical and failed qa for almost a year |
| 08:13 | sophie_m | ok magnuse |
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| 08:17 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 08:17 | marcelr | hi drojf |
| 08:17 | drojf | hi marcelr |
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| 08:21 | drojf | @later tell libsysguy_afk do i need both patches for 9316? if so, i still cannot apply the first. |
| 08:21 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:23 | drojf | @later tell libsysguy_afk ah, looks like they are attached to the bug in the wrong order |
| 08:23 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:28 | marcelr | kf there |
| 11:28 | wahanui | it has been said that kf there is a quick way to escape ( and ) from OPAC and Staff Client searches? |
| 11:28 | marcelr | :) |
| 11:29 | kf | hm? |
| 11:29 | marcelr | hi kf |
| 11:29 | kf | hi marcelr :) |
| 11:29 | marcelr | bug 4906 |
| 11:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period |
| 11:29 | marcelr | your problem is more about interval>1 |
| 11:29 | kf | hm |
| 11:29 | marcelr | kyle just excludes the grace period with fines |
| 11:30 | kf | I really have to test taht maybe |
| 11:30 | could you give an example? | |
| 11:30 | marcelr | later please |
| 11:30 | wahanui | later is probably better |
| 11:30 | marcelr | have to go |
| 11:31 | kf | np |
| 11:31 | thx for spending time on this! | |
| 11:31 | marcelr++ | |
| 11:35 | magnuse | wahanui: forget kf there |
| 11:35 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot kf there |
| 11:36 | magnuse | marcelr++ |
| 11:43 | gerundio | hi, good morning |
| 11:44 | does Koha provide the abillity to upload images to use in the News entries? | |
| 11:46 | kf | I am not sure, but I doubt it |
| 11:53 | magnuse | don't think so, no |
| 11:57 | drojf | where do the images go that you upload for covers and patrons? shouldn't you be able to cheat with that? |
| 12:05 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1071 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1066 5 days 17 hr ago) |
| 12:11 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9767' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7eb1dfbf7b36ef70c> / Bug 9767: Fix for updatedatabase.pl (mixed version numbers) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]56846636545113f91> |
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| 12:21 | drojf | magnuse: for bug 9256, will an upgrade with the patched package be enough or do i have to purge/reinstall? |
| 12:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 12:41 | drojf | the need to have the right language to choose the marc flavour i want is really annoying for testing |
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| 12:49 | kf | drojf: you can probably cheat... but it woudl be not so easy as they are stored in the databse |
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| 12:55 | magnuse | i think images both for covers and patrons go in the database |
| 12:56 | drojf: an upgrade should be ok, i think | |
| 12:56 | * magnuse | runs an errand |
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| 13:03 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:03 | kf | hi oleonard |
| 13:13 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1071: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1071/ |
| 13:13 | Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9767: Fix for updatedatabase.pl (mixed version numbers) | |
| 13:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9767 critical, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix for updatedatabase.pl (mixed version numbers) |
| 13:45 | oleonard | jcamins: When the patch for Bug 9450 got pushed it overwrote the changes made in Bug 9647 |
| 13:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9450 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables in cataloging Z39.50 search results |
| 13:46 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9647 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on Z39.50 servers administration page with Bootstrap | |
| 13:46 | oleonard | Sorry, 9450 isn't the right bug |
| 13:46 | Bug 9446 | |
| 13:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on Z39.50 servers administration page |
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| 13:51 | drojf | oleonard: is it save to assume that layout weirdness in master in non-english view is because of the unfinished translation files? eg. i see the new, fancy logout in the english staff client but the old with visible "log out" text when i view it in norwegian?! |
| 13:52 | oleonard | Don't you need to rebuild your non-en templates after each change to the en templates? |
| 13:53 | drojf | it's a fresh installation so i did |
| 13:54 | oleonard | Hmm |
| 13:54 | drojf | let me check if i forgot it the second time |
| 13:54 | oh, it's possible i did! | |
| 13:56 | kf | drojf: you know what would be cool? to have some kind of warning pop up when you look at outdated files... |
| 13:56 | it happens soooo often | |
| 13:57 | * oleonard | can't seem to switch to de after installing it... |
| 13:57 | jcamins | oleonard: do you want me to revert 9446? |
| 13:58 | kf | oleonard: did you actiavet he language chooser too? |
| 13:58 | drojf | oh a lot of warning i have not seen before, so you must be right oleonard |
| 13:58 | kf | and leave systempreferences... that module is a bit weird |
| 13:58 | drojf | warnings |
| 13:58 | wahanui | warnings are nothing to worry about. |
| 13:58 | oleonard | jcamins: I guess you reverting it and me submitting a revised version is the way to go |
| 13:59 | drojf | oleonard++ #works now |
| 14:00 | hm but still broken unicode in patron categories | |
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| 14:02 | kf | jcamins++ the did you mean page is so nice |
| 14:04 | hmm lists look a bit weird, must be the custom css | |
| 14:07 | hmmm | |
| 14:08 | when i look at the lists of list they appear as underlined links - not sure yet why | |
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| 14:09 | kf | hm ok, it seems to be normal, it stays like that after removing opacusercss and opacuserjs |
| 14:09 | drojf: could you take a look at the list of lists in opac for signs of weirdness? | |
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| 14:16 | drojf | kf: i see underlining too and there is no indentation of the entries anymore (master) |
| 14:17 | kf | oh right |
| 14:17 | bug | |
| 14:17 | jcamins | kf: bug? They've always looked like that, haven't they? |
| 14:18 | kf | https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/# |
| 14:18 | nope | |
| 14:18 | all I did there was to change the background color | |
| 14:20 | jcamins | That looks normal to me. |
| 14:20 | drojf | ah that is exactly the one i used to compare |
| 14:20 | :) | |
| 14:20 | yes but master does not look like that anymore | |
| 14:21 | jcamins | ? |
| 14:21 | I think I must not be understanding the problem. | |
| 14:22 | Well, I'll see what it is when there's a bug/patch with a nice test plan. | |
| 14:22 | * jcamins | heads into the city. |
| 14:23 | drojf | that is what it looks like in master |
| 14:24 | at least for me. kf? | |
| 14:24 | oleonard | That's not what it looks like to me |
| 14:25 | jcamins | I don't see that in French. |
| 14:25 | drojf | interesting |
| 14:25 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 14:26 | jcamins | Must be the long German words. |
| 14:26 | Except that looks more like Norwegian? | |
| 14:26 | drojf | it is |
| 14:26 | and it looks the same in english for me | |
| 14:27 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 14:27 | Germs? | |
| 14:27 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 14:27 | jcamins | That must be the problem. :P |
| 14:28 | drojf | maybe. anyway, gotta shower and do some shopping. (shower si good against germs too ;) |
| 14:28 | s/si/is | |
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| 14:40 | oleonard | Sorry folks, this is not valid: <th/> |
| 14:40 | Just sayin'. | |
| 14:44 | drojf | but it looks cool :D |
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| 15:03 | * drojf | annoys libsysguy |
| 15:03 | libsysguy | heh |
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| 15:05 | magnuse | drojf++ for being annoying ;-) |
| 15:06 | drojf | heh. i learned a lot from kf :P |
| 15:11 | magnuse | kf++ |
| 15:13 | drojf: i think the unicode thing with the patron categories is a problem with the norwegian sample data, unrelated to the search problem | |
| 15:13 | it's on my list of things to look at | |
| 15:15 | i believe there is a file of sample data that is not unicode or something like that | |
| 15:19 | and drojf++ for testing bug 9256!! | |
| 15:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 15:39 | magnuse | do we really have to say "Koha *Online* Catalogue" everywhere? shouldn't "Koha Catalogue" be enough? |
| 15:39 | kf | magnuse: translating? ;) |
| 15:39 | magnuse | trying not to :-) |
| 15:40 | oleonard | magnuse: You could set your LibraryName pref |
| 15:41 | * oleonard | would sign off on a patch which removed "online" |
| 15:41 | magnuse | it's just that i'm seeing "koha online catalogue" in a thousand places... :-) |
| 15:41 | yay! one day... ;-) | |
| 15:42 | gah, what is wrong with this file? http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b1aafd5df;hb=HEAD ? | |
| 15:42 | when i tell ff to display it as utf8 it looks good, but when it's loaded into the database and displayed in the patron category dropdown the æøå is wrong | |
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| 16:02 | drojf | magnuse: we need koha *online* catalogue as opposed to our koha card catalogue ;) |
| 16:02 | magnuse | hm, looks like the problem with the patron category dropdown might not be a problem with my data, but how it's displayed in that dropdown. when i go to edit a patron category the norwegian names look a1 ok |
| 16:02 | drojf: yeah there is that ;-) | |
| 16:03 | drojf | yes all other non-ascii things i have seen were ok |
| 16:03 | but i have not looked around a lot | |
| 16:04 | magnuse | hm, adding the html_entity filter to the display fixes it |
| 16:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:04 | magnuse | i'll do a quick patch for that |
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| 16:18 | magnuse | drojf: if you do happen to have the time, perhaps you could have a go at Bug 9772 too |
| 16:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9772 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Displayed Norwegian chars correctly in the patron category dropdown on the Patrons page |
| 16:18 | magnuse | since it sounds like you have a norwegian install going and have observed the problem |
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| 16:18 | magnuse | :-) |
| 16:19 | * oleonard | wonders why one would ever want to auto-fill the call number field with MAX(itemcallnumber) |
| 16:19 | gmcharlt | oleonard: accession numbering, presumably |
| 16:20 | oleonard | meaning some libraries' call numbers are simply consecutive? |
| 16:21 | * oleonard | should know better... mad schemes etc. |
| 16:22 | gmcharlt | oleonard: yep; typically done for special collections where nobody but the librarian ever walks the stacks |
| 16:23 | oleonard | That would be interesting in a public library. "I'm looking for a book..." "Well, when did we buy it?" |
| 16:24 | gmcharlt | that, or it's an Extreme Library |
| 16:24 | "collocation by topic is for wimps... Real Librarians hold the catalog in their head!" | |
| 16:24 | * oleonard | is looking at YUI AJAX code in cataloging plugins. sadface. |
| 16:25 | magnuse | @quote get 123 |
| 16:25 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 16:25 | huginn | magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 16:25 | magnuse | moahahaha |
| 16:25 | * magnuse | takes the dogs for a walk |
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| 16:37 | jcamins | Many libraries use consecutive call numbers. |
| 16:37 | Actually, one of the weird things about the ANS is that it *doesn't*. | |
| 16:40 | oleonard | Anyone here familiar with value_builder/callnumber.pl? I'm trying to figure out what circumstance would invoke the code at line 97 http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc93c0b13;hb=HEAD |
| 16:41 | What kind of call number would that part of the script address? | |
| 16:41 | if ( $code =~ m/^[A-Z.\-']+$/ ) | |
| 16:42 | drojf | oleonard: i think if you put in "whatever", it will look for the highest callnumber with "whatever". like you have "whatever 123" in your db, you will get "whatever 124" in the cataloguing thingy |
| 16:43 | jcamins | The prefix must contain only capital letters, a periods, dashes, and apostrophes. |
| 16:43 | ... which is crazy | |
| 16:43 | oleonard | LOC-specific? |
| 16:43 | drojf | oh i ignored the regex part |
| 16:44 | nevermind me. sugar coma | |
| 16:44 | jcamins | oleonard: nah, must be a particular type of call number used in France. |
| 16:44 | The apostrophe is what gets me. | |
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| 16:53 | * drojf | wonders why there are no authority types for normarc |
| 16:54 | jcamins | drojf: because magnuse hasn't copied the MARC21 files over to te NORMARC directories. |
| 16:56 | drojf | i'm sure they differ in one or two subfields :P |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Actually, I think magnuse said that NORMARC didn't have an authority format. |
| 16:58 | drojf | oh! that's interesting |
| 16:59 | oleonard | Anyone here who speaks UNIMARC? |
| 17:00 | * jcamins | guesses libsysguy ate a bit too much at brunch. |
| 17:00 | oleonard | I thought maybe you were making a comment about the quantity of brunch you ate libsysguy |
| 17:00 | jinx | |
| 17:00 | libsysguy | I thought I was too |
| 17:00 | but I didn't actually get brunch | |
| 17:00 | I was going to eat at the gym | |
| 17:01 | but I decided i felt too sick after my leg workout | |
| 17:01 | lol | |
| 17:04 | magnuse | drojf: jcamins is right, NORMARC does not define frameworks for authorities. i do plan to make the MARC21 auth frameworks work for NORMARC, though: bug 9057 |
| 17:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9057 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add support for athorities to NORMARC |
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| 17:05 | drojf | so that means you have normarc that gives you a handful of norway-special fields and you sacrifice all authority stuff for it? that sounds like an interesting idea ;) |
| 17:07 | magnuse | #marcmustdie! |
| 17:07 | * oleonard | is doing very wrong things with cataloging plugins |
| 17:08 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 17:08 | * magnuse | wanders off to make pizza |
| 17:09 | jcamins | I made pizza yesterday. |
| 17:09 | It was delicious. | |
| 17:09 | magnuse | (with reindeer sausage and pomegranate for topping - it's like lots of little, red noses...) |
| 17:10 | jcamins | Pomegranate? |
| 17:10 | Interesting. | |
| 17:10 | wahanui | i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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| 17:15 | magnuse | jcamins: it's like small, sweet explosions in your mouth, which contrast really well with the salty sausage :-) |
| 17:15 | drojf | i thought hamster was the topping of the week |
| 17:15 | magnuse | lol |
| 17:20 | cait | hi :) |
| 17:20 | magnuse: small sweet explosions? | |
| 17:21 | jcamins | Pomegranate. |
| 17:22 | cait | mmh |
| 17:22 | jcamins | ... why would you have a significant mass market paperback collection at a library and _not_ expose the records on your OPAC? |
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| 17:26 | drojf | jcamins: hipster librarian, only showing the cool stuff in the opac? |
| 17:26 | cait | jcamins: not sure I can follow :) |
| 17:27 | jcamins | cait: on one of my mailing lists, a librarian just asked about how others treat mass market paperbacks. |
| 17:27 | This particular library has them cataloged, but only lets staff see the records since patrons can't place holds on the books. | |
| 17:28 | It seems to me that people who read mass market paperbacks would be more likely to come into the library if they knew there were books they were interested in. | |
| 17:28 | oleonard | Crazy talk! |
| 17:31 | drojf | if you want to get people into reading, force them to start with heavy stuff they are not interested in before you tell them about the mainstream books you have :P |
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| 18:34 | * oleonard | cuts out early |
| 18:34 | jcamins | Lucky! |
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| 18:41 | jcamins | Huh! I missed this one: http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2010/2010-06.html |
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| 20:18 | jcamins | Did anyone else know we had keyboard shortcuts in Koha? |
| 20:22 | Oak | :) |
| 20:23 | i did not know. | |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Apparently Alt-r brings up the search screen. |
| 20:24 | Oak | can't be a bug :) |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Well, it could be, but I don't think it is. |
| 20:24 | The only problem is that on Macs, the Alt key is also the compose key. | |
| 20:24 | Oak | let's try all keyboard combinations |
| 20:25 | jcamins | That's on the staff client, not the OPAC. |
| 20:25 | Oak | hm |
| 20:25 | bgkriegel | hi, Alt-r takes me to 'check in' (windows) |
| 20:26 | jcamins | bgkriegel: really? |
| 20:26 | bgkriegel | yep |
| 20:26 | jcamins | Odd. |
| 20:26 | Oh, I see. | |
| 20:26 | If the check in box is not visible, it takes you to search screen. | |
| 20:27 | * jcamins | thinks he can guess who chose the shortcut. |
| 20:27 | Oak | who? |
| 20:27 | jcamins | oleonard. |
| 20:27 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 20:28 | jcamins | The 'r' is probably for "return," and that's a USian term. :) |
| 20:28 | bgkriegel | well, in about page takes me to check-in also |
| 20:28 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 20:28 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 18.0°C (12:00 AM PKT on March 09, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:29 | jcamins | bgkriegel: really? |
| 20:29 | bgkriegel | yes, again |
| 20:29 | jcamins | Okay, in that case I speculate that it doesn't function quite right on very old versions of Firefox on Mac. |
| 20:29 | :) | |
| 20:29 | bgkriegel | :) I'm in chrome |
| 20:30 | jcamins | I'm on an old Mac with an old version of FF. |
| 20:30 | Also, I noticed that the key mappings all seem to be... weird. | |
| 20:33 | bgkriegel | is the same on ff, opera and safari |
| 20:34 | jcamins | Yeah... according to the code, Alt-q should bring up the search page not Alt-r. |
| 20:34 | Hm. | |
| 20:34 | Not that it matters. | |
| 20:34 | We generally recommend using web browsers released within the last five years. | |
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| 20:37 | Oak | me go now. take care all. |
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| 20:54 | jcamins | nora++ |
| 20:54 | melia++ | |
| 20:54 | melia | heh what am I getting a ++ for? :) |
| 20:55 | jcamins | melia: I figure you're probably the one who got Nora signing off on things. :) |
| 20:55 | melia | yep, with Kyle's help. I was going to do the git part for her. :) |
| 20:56 | jcamins | You should teach her how to do the git part too. :) |
| 20:56 | Then she can sign off on even more! :D | |
| 20:56 | melia | I will! |
| 20:56 | jcamins | On an unrelated note, bound-withs are cruel and unusual. |
| 20:57 | I am on item 7 in a 13-part bound-with, and it is sapping my will to classify. | |
| 21:07 | melia: BTW, you know that the code for the sandboxes that BibLibre hosts is in the contribs repo, right? | |
| 21:07 | melia | yes, but I can't ever make the sandboxes work :( |
| 21:07 | jcamins | I haven't had much luck with them either. |
| 21:08 | But the idea is inspired. :) | |
| 21:08 | melia | it is! |
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| 21:31 | jcamins | melia: you can sign off on multiple patches by using `git rebase -i origin/master` and choosing to "edit" each patch you want to sign off. |
| 21:31 | melia | ah ok. let me try that. |
| 21:31 | jcamins | Then, you do the "git commit --amend -s" to add your sign offs and `git rebase --continue` to move on to the next patch. |
| 21:32 | melia | yes! I can see both of them now. thank you! |
| 21:32 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 21:32 | That's the safe way of doing it. | |
| 21:32 | You may also see references to "filter-branch." Ignore them. | |
| 21:33 | (filter-branch being the incredibly dangerous way of doing the same thing) | |
| 21:33 | melia | ok |
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| 21:52 | melia | well, I've got them both signed off now but can't seem to get them attached again |
| 21:53 | what's wrong with this: | |
| 21:53 | meliaByWater-Test:~/kohaclone$ git bz attach -e 8943 <4a21cb0> |
|
| 21:53 | -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' | |
| 21:53 | jcamins | What error are you getting? |
| 21:53 | You have angle braces. | |
| 21:53 | It should just be 4a21cb0 | |
| 21:53 | Or, alternatively, HEAD^ and then HEAD | |
| 21:53 | No need to look up hashes. | |
| 21:54 | melia | oh duh |
| 21:54 | it's because it's in between those in the instructions on the wiki, and I just copy/pasted :) | |
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| 21:55 | jcamins | Yeah, unfortunately there isn't really a consistent way that we indicate that you should replace the example with a real value. |
| 21:56 | melia | you just need to use your head when you read the instructions :) |
| 21:56 | ok I finally got both signed off patches on there. thanks, jcamins! | |
| 21:57 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 21:57 | You're welcome. | |
| 21:58 | bag | YAY melia and jcamins with the assist :) |
| 22:00 | jcamins | bag: this is the rewarding part of being RM. :) |
| 22:01 | bag | :) |
| 22:13 | jcamins | It's kind of impressive: when I arrived this morning, it was snowing briskly. By now the snow on the ledge outside the window has almost entirely melted. |
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| 22:18 | rhcl | ignore me, I'm just trying to find a chat client I like |
| 22:19 | jcamins | rhcl: which have you ruled out so far? |
| 22:19 | rhcl | Konversation |
| 22:20 | jcamins | I use irssi. |
| 22:20 | maximep | used to really like Konversation |
| 22:20 | celery | yea, let me try that one. I used to use it many many moons ago |
| 22:20 | maximep | but i'm a kde fan :p |
| 22:21 | celery | Yea, me too, I run OpenSuse |
| 22:22 | maximep | now i'm just connecting directly in Opera because i'm too lazy to install/learn anything else |
| 22:22 | jcamins | maximep: I didn't realize that Opera had a built-in IRC client. |
| 22:23 | maximep | it's also my mail client for the same reasons |
| 22:23 | rhcl | ...wonder if Thunderbird has an IRC client.... |
| 22:23 | jcamins | rhcl: I think so. |
| 22:23 | maximep | chatzilla for firefox |
| 22:23 | jcamins | Certainly FF does. |
| 22:23 | And maximep even knows what it is called. | |
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| 22:25 | maximep | really hoping I won't lose any of those features of Opera when they switch to webkit |
| 22:26 | jcamins | maximep: oh, yeah, I heard that Opera was switching to webkit. |
| 22:26 | Rather narrows the browser field. | |
| 22:26 | maximep | yeah they released the first beta of opera for android |
| 22:26 | with webkit | |
| 22:27 | jcamins | The options will be: gecko/mozilla, gecko/mozilla, webkit, webkit, webkit, ie. |
| 22:27 | maximep | looks and feels exactly the same as chromium, but a few extra features |
| 22:27 | jcamins | (Mozilla, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera, and IE, respectively) |
| 22:27 | maximep | but weirdly, all webkit implementation are different in some major ways |
| 22:27 | from chrome to chromium to safari to qt-webkit | |
| 22:27 | to gtk-webkit | |
| 22:28 | all fine for me if IE could die | |
| 22:28 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 22:28 | Agreed. | |
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| 22:30 | maximep | I guess I like being in the 0.01% of people using my browser configuration |
| 22:30 | and having half the web not work for me :p | |
| 22:30 | jcamins | maximep: I thought you used Opera, not IE. :P |
| 22:31 | maximep | Opera/Gentoo/No flash/No Javascript |
| 22:31 | really fast :p | |
| 22:32 | of course I enable javascript for most websites because these days nothing works without it | |
| 22:32 | jcamins | You would not be able to edit records in my new cataloging interface. |
| 22:32 | celery1: how do you like it? | |
| 22:33 | maximep | yeah... that's why I stick to firefox at work hehe |
| 22:33 | celery1 | well, this is Thunderbird. I kinda like it. |
| 22:34 | maximep | 5 hours left today and it'S 17:34. Hmmm. That won't work. |
| 22:34 | *of work left | |
| 22:34 | jcamins | maximep: ugh. |
| 22:35 | I hate it when that happens. | |
| 22:35 | rhcl | I had forgotten irssi was ncurses |
| 22:38 | maximep | tried irssi, finch and a few others a few years ago. I like them, but I just don't want to learn a ton of key bindings |
| 22:38 | just to be on irc | |
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| 22:39 | maximep | and I was always missing stuff because I have too many terminals opened |
| 22:39 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 22:39 | irssi runs on my development server, so when I'm doing Koha development I switch back and forth frequently. | |
| 22:40 | maximep | hmmm I guess that would be possible |
| 22:40 | jcamins | When I'm working on other development projects, I check rather less frequently. |
| 22:40 | maximep | always using 4 tabs in a screen session on my dev server |
| 22:40 | could add a fifth | |
| 22:40 | with #koha | |
| 22:40 | because i'm the same way... I don't look much at this channel when i'm working on other stuff | |
| 22:41 | jcamins | Yep. irssi is tab 0, and 1-4 are for development. |
| 22:47 | maximep | just can't concentrate on anything. Too tired. Time to go back home, I guess |
| 22:47 | jcamins | Sounds like a good idea to me. |
| 22:47 | I'd do the same if I didn't have only 2 pamphlets left. | |
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