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00:04 | rangi | !jenkins build koha_master now |
00:04 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
00:04 | Starting build #1028 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1021 1 day 22 hr ago) | |
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00:24 | BobB | Is anyone else having trouble connecting to LOC via Z3950? |
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01:09 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
01:09 | Project Koha_master build #1028: FIXED in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1028/ | |
01:43 | wizzyrea | hm, opinion - a library is annoyed because the advance notices and the due notice both show date issued instead of date due |
01:44 | my inclination is to show both | |
01:44 | rangi | can't hurt |
01:44 | @wunder nzwn | |
01:44 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on January 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Falling). |
01:44 | rangi | it looks warmer than 19 to me |
01:44 | Dyrcona | @wunder 01844 |
01:44 | wizzyrea | it's warm but there's a bit of a chill |
01:44 | huginn | Dyrcona: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Methuen MA US, Methuen, Massachusetts is -10.6°C (8:18 PM EST on January 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -24.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1021 hPa (Falling). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 10 am EST Friday... |
01:44 | wizzyrea | warm in the sun |
01:45 | chilly in the shade | |
01:45 | Dyrcona | Freezing in the shade. :) |
01:45 | wizzyrea | :) |
01:45 | you win for cold weather | |
01:45 | @wunder lawrence, ks | |
01:45 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -3.2°C (7:45 PM CST on January 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
01:45 | wizzyrea | no SO bad there |
01:46 | @wunder boo | |
01:46 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (1:50 AM CET on January 25, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
01:46 | wizzyrea | ! |
01:46 | would not have guessed that one. | |
01:46 | Dyrcona | Yeah, we should move to sunny Norway. :) |
01:47 | wizzyrea | @wunder antarctica |
01:47 | huginn | wizzyrea: Error: No such location could be found. |
01:47 | eythian | rangi: there's still a leftover southerly breeze blowing, cooling it slightly |
01:48 | wizzyrea | it was downright chillish yesterday |
01:48 | rangi | ahh right |
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01:51 | mtj | hi all, more friday fun -> http://imgur.com/a/wkzr5 |
01:54 | eythian | @later tell cait http://imgur.com/a/wkzr5 |
01:54 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
02:04 | wizzyrea | hahaha |
02:34 | eythian | new koha packages uploading |
02:34 | rangi | sweet |
02:39 | cjh | \o/ |
02:40 | wizzyrea | hey cjh |
02:40 | feelin better? | |
02:40 | cjh | wizzyrea: quite a bit actually :) |
02:40 | wizzyrea | yusssss |
02:47 | ok regarding the duedate on notice thing - I suspect there will be squealing from the community if i just out and change it... suggestions? | |
02:47 | even though my way makes a lot more sense and it's stupid the way it is now. :P | |
02:47 | take that, diplomacy! | |
02:48 | * wizzyrea | plots to ply them all with ginger beer. |
02:48 | wizzyrea | or real beer. |
02:48 | who knows | |
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04:08 | mtj | fyi, wellington peeps - we are opening for lawrencearabia.com tmrw nite, if anyone is out n' about… |
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07:10 | magnuse | hiya cait and #koha |
07:14 | alex_a | bonjour cait and magnuse |
07:14 | cait | hi all :) |
07:15 | friday morning :) | |
07:15 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
07:35 | pizzaday! | |
07:35 | friday? | |
07:35 | wahanui | hmmm... friday is pizzaday! |
07:35 | magnuse | yay! |
07:40 | cait | heh |
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07:42 | reiveune | hello |
07:43 | magnuse | bojour reiveune |
07:48 | cait | bbl :) |
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08:22 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:25 | kf | hi gaetan_B :) |
08:25 | gaetan_B | :) |
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09:01 | kf | good friday morning drojf |
09:06 | drojf | hi kf :) |
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09:22 | * gaetan_B | disappears in a black hole |
09:22 | magnuse | oh noes! |
09:22 | kf | hope he comes back and doesn't end up in another dimension |
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09:22 | magnuse | yup |
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09:49 | gerundio | good morning everyone |
10:05 | kf | h igeru |
10:05 | hi gerundio :) | |
10:05 | gerundio | I've been called worse ehehehe |
10:07 | kf | heh |
10:10 | drojf | hi gerundio |
10:10 | firefox os app day berlin 'sold out' | |
10:10 | ha. i got a ticket 'just in case' yesterday | |
10:11 | kf | :) |
10:11 | cool | |
10:11 | rangi is going there tomorrow | |
10:11 | in wellington | |
10:11 | drojf | so there will be a koha app already :D |
10:12 | yeah i saw wellington on the list and was wondering if somebody of the koha folks is going | |
10:12 | gerundio | a brand new Koha Firefox OS app on the forge drojf? :p |
10:12 | drojf | i'd love them to have some phones ready when it is in berlin ;) |
10:13 | gerundio | don't know if you'll be that lucky |
10:13 | drojf | probably not |
10:13 | gerundio | the event mentions "Firefox OS Simulator", so I'm guessing that'll be the showcase method |
10:14 | but hey, you never know | |
10:14 | drojf | i'd also be fine to jump up the queue for a developer phone :P |
10:14 | gerundio | has any hardware manufacturer already partned with Mozilla on this? |
10:14 | drojf | yes, there is geeksphone, they will anounce more info on developer phones in february |
10:15 | http://www.geeksphone.com/ | |
10:15 | they have two models soon | |
10:17 | * magnuse | wants a geek phone, just based on the name :-) |
10:17 | gerundio | lets see how it manages on the mobile market |
10:18 | * magnuse | would also like to see html5 take the place of native apps |
10:18 | gerundio | hmm, not in the near future I guess |
10:18 | drojf | i think the web-y-browse-y stuff will work alright, but there seems to be no layer to run anything not web-based. |
10:19 | magnuse | yay |
10:19 | :-) | |
10:19 | gerundio | Facebook went down that road for their iOS app and said it was their worst decision |
10:20 | any Android users among you guys? | |
10:20 | drojf | magnuse: i'd like to be able to run scripts or something at least ;) |
10:20 | gerundio | check this new gadget by Always Innovating: http://androidcommunity.com/me[…]android-20130124/ |
10:20 | drojf | gerundio: i used android for 15 minutes a few days ago. to learn how to root a phone for a friend :D but i don't have an android device |
10:21 | * magnuse | has an android phone, somewhat reluctantly after having an n900 with the debian-based maemo os... |
10:22 | drojf | hahaha that helicopter cam looks great |
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10:24 | * drojf | still does not have a smartphone |
10:24 | drojf | not too happy with the operating systems available |
10:24 | i don't like google and i don't like apple to spy on me | |
10:26 | gerundio | just buy an offline budget phone |
10:27 | I don't know what will be the policies for the FirefoxOS and even for Ubuntu phone OS for that matter | |
10:27 | drojf | i have a samsung phone for 15€. it can call and send sms |
10:27 | :D | |
10:28 | gerundio | that's all I need too |
10:28 | :D | |
10:29 | * kf | has a smartphone but only uses it for internet and another phone for calling people :P |
10:29 | gerundio | kf, you should look into replacing that smartphone for a 7" tablet or so |
10:30 | drojf | i'd like a pocket internet. i hope to be able to really interact with the hardware on firefoxos. as in, have control over it. but we will see |
10:30 | kf | gerundio: I recently got a tablet... *sigh* |
10:30 | gerundio | internet experience in such a device is much better |
10:30 | * gerundio | got a Nexus 7 a while ago too |
10:31 | drojf | i have a tablet too. does not really fit in my pocket though (10") |
10:31 | gerundio | I used to think 10" was great, but now I'm pretty pleased with my 7" |
10:31 | not to say the speed | |
10:32 | * kf | has an asus transformer - it's nice |
10:32 | drojf | firefox os should be able to run on really low spec hardware. i'd buy a phone for ~100€ for occasional internet needs on the go and that seems possible. i would not really spend 400++€ for a phone |
10:32 | gerundio | offtopic: KOHA |
10:33 | is scalar($field->subfields()) a good way to count the # of subfields on a given field? | |
10:33 | kf | not sure if it's a good way but it seems like itwould work |
10:33 | drojf | i define "good way" by "it works", so don't ask me :) |
10:33 | gerundio | lolol |
10:33 | kf | would assigning it to a scalar variable without the scalar not work too? |
10:34 | I am too much of a perl noob to tell you if it's good :) | |
10:34 | gerundio | don't think you can beat me at the "perl noob" category, sorry the highest place in the podium is already taken kf :D |
10:35 | kf | heh |
10:35 | i will not fight you for it | |
10:35 | gerundio | the thing that strikes me the most about perl is there is always like ten ways to accomplish something |
10:35 | drojf | see, and i am happy if i find one of them :D |
10:35 | gerundio | which ultimately leaves me wondering which one is the right one |
10:36 | kf | gerundio: the reading list recommended to me was: |
10:36 | learning perl, modern perl, perl best practices | |
10:37 | I am still stuck in the middle of modern perl | |
10:37 | gerundio | I've got my hands on a copy of PBP just in case |
10:37 | kf | I think modern perl and perl best practices shoudl help answering that question |
10:41 | drojf | still tickets available for the app day in wellington if anyone is interested in a short holiday ;) |
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10:41 | kf | if I coudl make it there on time... beamers |
10:41 | someone shoudl work on that | |
10:43 | drojf | i think the more realistic approach for the near future is using a 3d printer to replicate stuff on the other end of the world. that would not work with a copy of kf i suppose ;) |
10:43 | kf | hhmmm |
10:47 | magnuse | there is more than one way to do it ftw! :-) |
10:59 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Snippet to remove 610a subfield" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/368 |
10:59 | gerundio | when I run the script with that code for a given record |
11:00 | the 610a field is removed | |
11:00 | and even the whole 610 field is gone if subfield a was the only subfield | |
11:01 | but if I re-run the script for the same record I get "Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at remove_unimarc_610a_value.pl line 96." which refers to the "$record->field('610');" line | |
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11:02 | gerundio | as $record is now returning NULL |
11:02 | any idea what I might be doing wrong here? | |
11:09 | just to add more info on this | |
11:09 | the database record on biblio looks fine | |
11:10 | the 610 field is gone from the marcxml collumn | |
11:25 | magnuse | gerundio: you need to check if there is a 610 before you try to do anything with it |
11:26 | wrap everything under "# Retrieve field 610" in an "if ( $record->field('610') ) {...}" | |
11:26 | gerundio | magnuse, I can add that check to the script although the error is reported earlier in the script |
11:27 | the $record in returned as undef or NULL not the $field | |
11:28 | magnuse | if the whole record is undef/NULL after you edited it, it sounds like the editing did something wrong... |
11:28 | gerundio | in should be read as is ^^ |
11:29 | that's the whole code | |
11:29 | I remove subfield 610a if it exists | |
11:29 | check if field 610 was left with no subfields | |
11:29 | and if that's the case I remove it completely | |
11:30 | then save the changes using ModBiblio | |
11:30 | I'm not that familiar with the C4::Biblio and MARC::Record libraries | |
11:30 | so I'm betting I'm using the methods in any wrong way | |
11:31 | magnuse | hm |
11:31 | the error was "Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at remove_unimarc_610a_value.pl line 96." | |
11:31 | this line does not call method "subfield": my $field = $record->field('610'); | |
11:31 | but this does: my $subfield = $field->subfield('a'); | |
11:32 | so i think that last one has to be line 96? | |
11:35 | gerundio | hmm, you got a point there |
11:35 | it seems I've been reading it wrong since the start | |
11:35 | magnuse++ I'll work on that | |
11:36 | magnuse | yay :-) |
11:54 | gerundio | magnuse++ you deserve it... enough said :p |
11:54 | magnuse | cool :-) |
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12:55 | slef | anyone remember what it was about something like a --no-ff option when merging? |
12:56 | "Generate a merge commit even if the merge resolved as a fast-forward" | |
12:56 | jcamins_away | slef: yes, without that you can't revert merges. |
12:56 | slef | so to revert them, use rebase -i to remove the merge commit? |
12:57 | jcamins_away | No. |
12:57 | slef | use revert later? |
12:57 | jcamins_away | Just use git revert -m 1 {REVERT_COMMIT_ID} |
12:57 | Yeah. | |
12:58 | If you are rebasing you don't need --no-ff | |
12:58 | slef | I wonder what that looks like on the tree |
12:58 | I'm making a new local test deployment... 3.8.9 plus some enh from later | |
12:58 | magnuse | it looks like nice xmas decorations ;-) |
12:58 | slef | magnuse: :) |
13:00 | heh, I got halfway through the merges before Merge conflict in installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl | |
13:16 | * chris_n | read "rebasing" as "rebashing" |
13:17 | wonders if "rebashing" is some form of rewriting bash scripts | |
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13:42 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
13:42 | kf_lunch | hi oleonard |
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14:19 | * magnuse | waves at all the new arrivals :-) |
14:19 | oleonard | Hey, that's me! |
14:19 | * oleonard | waves back |
14:19 | gerundio | :) |
14:20 | magnuse | :-) |
14:21 | * magnuse | admires his shiny new raspberry pi through it's shiny new see-through plastic case ;-) |
14:21 | jcamins_away | :) |
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14:22 | drojf | :) |
14:23 | magnuse | now all it needs are some cables, some storage and some time... ;-) |
14:23 | gerundio | I've been thinking of buying one to setup as a media center with XBMC |
14:24 | drojf | nah, you have to install koha on it :P |
14:24 | gerundio | still not sure how it behaves on 720p or 1080p movies though |
14:24 | drojf, why stop with just 1x pi, right? :D | |
14:24 | drojf | the gpu shluld be capable of running that ok. not sure about xmbc having access to hardware decoding though |
14:24 | should | |
14:25 | * magnuse | will try it as a media center, probably |
14:25 | drojf | firefox os runs on a pi too ;) |
14:25 | magnuse | ooh |
14:25 | drojf | but i think the ported version is really old now |
14:26 | i don't feel like porting that myself. and by i don't feel like i mean i doubt i am able to do that | |
14:26 | slef | is firefox os all-FOSS? |
14:26 | drojf | slef: don't know yet |
14:26 | waiting for answers :) | |
14:27 | slef | there was some confusion on a list I read, so someone asked in a comment on the website and the Mozilla rep avoided the question, which sowed FUD |
14:27 | drojf | there is not much info out on the "linux" part (kernel+whatever there is) called gonk |
14:27 | magnuse | on the note in the box it says debian squeeze is recommended - i thought there was a special distro, raspbian or something? |
14:27 | slef | I'll mention any update I get, if you want. |
14:27 | drojf | magnuse: what box? |
14:27 | wahanui | box is probably missing. |
14:27 | slef | wahanui: forget box |
14:27 | wahanui | slef: I forgot box |
14:28 | drojf | magnuse: also, take raspian. it's wheezy +x |
14:28 | * druthb | thinks it'd be cool to have a koha "appliance" built around a Pi. Plug it in, give it an IP addy, and start configurin' Koha. |
14:29 | drojf | druthb: a koha live-pi? :D |
14:29 | magnuse | druthb: yeah! |
14:29 | drojf: yeah! | |
14:29 | drojf: the pi itself came in a pink plastic box | |
14:29 | drojf | i was thinking about that, but that would be a pretty large file |
14:29 | druthb | yep. I could sell the heck out of that to small rural libraries. ILS in a box. |
14:30 | drojf | magnuse: ah, ok. that is probably ooold info :) |
14:30 | magnuse | druthb: yeah! |
14:31 | gerundio | I just got a complaint about fine values not showing up in the overdue notices sent to patrons |
14:31 | bug 8378 | |
14:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
14:31 | druthb | Places where network connectivity is twitchy, and a hosted solution is not a good idea.... |
14:31 | drojf | druthb: mine even made its own WiFi network. no need for internet ;) |
14:31 | gerundio | this is still an active bug |
14:31 | drojf | the solar part did not work so well |
14:32 | gerundio | so I'm guessing that koha isn't sending fine values... is that it? |
14:34 | drojf | slef: my second raspberry pi was actually produced in the UK, as they claimed to do from the beginning |
14:37 | slef | drojf: I did not know that, or that it wasn't. I assumed it was exploitative Chinaware like most stuff. |
14:38 | drojf | i think parts of the production still are |
14:42 | magnuse | mine says "made in china"... |
14:44 | * kf_lunch | growls |
14:44 | kf_lunch | sorry :) |
14:45 | * kf_lunch | gets frustrated trying to figure this out |
14:45 | magnuse | figure what out, kf_lunch? |
14:45 | kf | something I am working on, it's ok |
14:46 | drojf | made in china reminds me that i wanted to watch the "are fair computers possible" talk from 29c3 |
14:47 | * slef | hands kf a kitten kebab |
14:47 | slef | drojf: got link? |
14:47 | huginn: google "are fair computers possible" 29c3 | |
14:47 | huginn | slef: Lightning Talks - 29C3 Public Wiki: <http://events.ccc.de/congress/[…]i/Lightning_Talks>; Workshops - 29C3 Public Wiki: <http://events.ccc.de/congress/2012/wiki/Workshops>; 29c3-Videos › Nerdcore: <http://www.crackajack.de/2012/12/29/29c3-videos/>; 29C3 Review | Lukas' Weblog: <http://lukas-prokop.at/blog/2013/01/29c3-review/>; Gratefulfrog's GratefulBlog: 29C3 - 29th Chaos Communications (1 more message) |
14:48 | slef | what's the latest 3.8 release? |
14:49 | magnuse | 3.8.9 |
14:49 | slef | cool, thanks, thought I was going nuts |
14:49 | and I was :) | |
14:49 | druthb | No one noticed, slef. Happens to me, too. |
14:50 | * druthb | went nuts a long time ago, but y'all just go along with it, so it's okay. |
14:50 | drojf | slef: ah, it was in german |
14:50 | either go to http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/29C3/ choose a format and look for 29c3-5121-de-en-sind_faire_computer_moeglich or on youtube (embedded in an article) at https://netzpolitik.org/2013/f[…]-ist-das-moglich/ ) | |
14:51 | slef | drojf: kein Problem |
14:51 | drojf | :) |
14:52 | slef | hrm, I wonder if my tv plays mp4 |
14:52 | it's a DVB-T2 set... it should, shouldn't it? | |
14:52 | drojf | isn't that mpeg2? |
14:53 | slef | HEsomething AAC |
14:53 | DVB-T is definitely mpeg2 | |
14:53 | not sure about T2 | |
14:53 | it's new to me | |
14:54 | drojf | i didn't know there is T2 at all. i don't care much about tv :) |
14:55 | now that i have to pay for it, i probably should | |
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15:16 | slef | drojf: I don't care about T2 but it seemed a good idea to get a TV that supported it as there was not much price difference. |
15:17 | drojf: I was rather surprised it can pick up T2 signals from as far away as Manchester, 5h travel away, in good weather. | |
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15:28 | drojf | third person to report Z39.50 problems |
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15:31 | slef | drojf: with loc.gov or koha or what? |
15:31 | drojf | Anyone else having problems grabbing records through Z39.50 in the past couple of days? Our FirstSearch, LOC & NYPL destinations all return errors ... |
15:31 | in koha | |
15:32 | (on the mailing list) | |
15:33 | libsysguy | oleonard has given me a great gift today |
15:33 | loads of easy patches to QA | |
15:37 | kf | libsysguy: yuo know you should start with older ones/bug fixes ;) |
15:38 | can't always pick the easy ones | |
15:38 | libsysguy | :'( |
15:38 | jcamins_away | Bugfixes especially. |
15:38 | I have a bugfix that has been awaiting QA for quite a while. | |
15:38 | libsysguy | oh? |
15:38 | what #? | |
15:38 | wahanui | # is, like, for root |
15:38 | jcamins_away | Chances are there are a bunch of others, too. |
15:39 | Bug 9174. | |
15:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9174 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Item type image does not display for biblio-level itemtypes in list display in OPAC |
15:39 | jcamins_away | Okay, only three weeks. |
15:40 | But there's also bug 9222, 9201, 9226, 9320, 9323, 8451, etc. :P | |
15:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9222 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , manual history reversed in subscription-detail.pl |
15:41 | kf | hehe |
15:41 | do 3 bug fixes and you can do some of the easy ones after | |
15:41 | * kf | offers a deal ;) |
15:41 | jcamins_away | Yes! Good idea! |
15:41 | libsysguy | fine fine |
15:41 | jcamins_away | And now I _really_ have to go finish getting my things together, so that we can leave for a much-needed vacation. |
15:41 | libsysguy | psh vacation |
15:41 | kf | jcamins_away: enjoy while I am going to fail your patches :P |
15:42 | jcamins_away | lol |
15:42 | As long as they move forward. | |
15:43 | libsysguy | forward++ |
15:43 | * kf | is looking at query parser |
15:43 | oleonard | forward->-> |
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15:51 | slef | drojf: LOC z39.50 failed for us today, but it's not something that the library I'm working for today uses, so I've not investigated. |
15:52 | jcamins_away | slef: gmcharlt sent an e-mail to the list explaining the problem. |
15:52 | Columbia and Smithsonian work fine for me, though. | |
15:52 | slef | jcamins_away: looking... (I wish gmane koha archive worked) |
15:53 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]es-td5740217.html | |
15:53 | jcamins_away | slef: you don't receive the mailing lists to your e-mail? |
15:54 | slef | jcamins_away: yes, but I read that mailbox only daily. |
15:55 | jcamins_away | Ah. |
15:55 | slef | well, mostly daily |
15:55 | jcamins_away | Oh, hey, I should update my VM before I leave. |
15:55 | slef | some days not at all, other days repeatedly |
15:59 | jcamins_away | Wow. Lots to download. |
16:00 | * oleonard | hands jcamins_away a yak to shave |
16:04 | gmcharlt | jcamins_away: I've asked somebody at LC about whether z3950.loc.gov will be coming back, and if they all would rather we use lx2.loc.gov instead |
16:04 | jcamins_away | gmcharlt++ |
16:05 | reiveune | bye |
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16:10 | magnuse | lazy question: what's the state of dbic and koha? |
16:11 | jcamins_away | magnuse: stalled until Koha is actually persistance-ready. |
16:11 | magnuse | ah, ok |
16:13 | kf | jcamins_away: so the patches from elliott won't work? |
16:14 | or am i confusing something? | |
16:14 | libsysguy | ? |
16:14 | jcamins_away | They will work, but I don't see how we can put them in right now. |
16:14 | The performance hit for CGI is pretty significant, and we don't offer any alternative. | |
16:14 | libsysguy | until somebody signs off on the nginx stuff |
16:14 | * libsysguy | prods |
16:15 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: and until Plack, you know, works. :P |
16:15 | libsysguy | right…so to answer your question kf...never |
16:15 | :p | |
16:15 | jcamins_away | Anything to do with notices is completely borked under Plack. |
16:16 | That's part of the reason I did the new caching. | |
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16:16 | alohabot | Hi mib_e3s3d5, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
16:16 | jcamins_away | It gives us a fighting chance of fixing the problem without needing to massively rewrite C4. |
16:16 | mib_e3s3d5 | can anyone provide me with some help for Koha 2.2.5? |
16:17 | libsysguy | whoa mib_e3s3d5 I think that version is older than I am |
16:17 | jcamins_away | mib_e3s3d5: sorry, that's an incredibly old version. |
16:17 | I don't think anyone provides support for it. | |
16:17 | mib_e3s3d5 | I know...I just have some basic needs. |
16:17 | drojf | lol libsysguy that is close to what i wanted to say |
16:17 | oleonard | 2.x advice is always "upgrade" |
16:17 | mib_e3s3d5 | out of my control on the upgrade for now. |
16:18 | I just need to know how to enter in an authors name. | |
16:18 | jcamins_away | mib_e3s3d5: no one here has used Koha 2.x in a very long time, but if you'd like you could ask your question anyway, on the off-chance that someone has an answer. |
16:19 | * drojf | has never used koha < 3 |
16:19 | * jcamins_away | either. |
16:19 | kf | mib_I think most developers here have never seen it, as it's years old |
16:19 | I have seen screenshots, that's all | |
16:19 | * libsysguy | started on v3.4.x |
16:19 | jcamins_away | Right. Don't get your hopes up, but if your question is general enough, there's a chance that the question would be answerable based on general knowledge. |
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16:19 | kf | 3.0 almost 3.2 was my starting point |
16:20 | jcamins_away | I got involved only a few months after kf. |
16:22 | gerundio | I trying to make something out of bug 8378 |
16:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
16:22 | gerundio | looking into "cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl" source code |
16:22 | oleonard | mib_e3s3d5: I've been around since before 2.2.5 and entering an author is pretty much the same as it is now if you use MARC: Edit the MARC record. |
16:22 | gerundio | can someone take a look at the parse_letter function |
16:23 | mib_e3s3d5 | oleonard-can we talk privatly about this? I'm find giving a phone number to you to call or can I call you? |
16:23 | gerundio | and tell what is supposed to be come from that $item->{'fine'} = currency_format($currency_format, "$fine", FMT_SYMBOL) |
16:23 | mib_e3s3d5 | this would be most most helpful. |
16:24 | oleonard | No mib_e3s3d5, I'm basing my advice on distant memory. I don't work with 2.x anymore and don't want to. Sorry :( |
16:24 | mib_e3s3d5 | thanx for the carrot. |
16:24 | gerundio | run mib_e3s3d5 run :) |
16:25 | btw, "The current release is 3.8, until at least October 2012, and the previous releases still being supported are 3.4 and 3.6." | |
16:25 | so 2.2.5 goes long before that | |
16:25 | jcamins_away | gerundio: where does it say that? |
16:25 | drojf | mib_e3s3d5: what is the problem with entering the name= |
16:25 | gerundio | download? |
16:25 | wahanui | download is still 4.10 |
16:25 | jcamins_away | gerundio: 'cause that's wrong. |
16:25 | gerundio | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
16:25 | jcamins_away | Ah. |
16:25 | wahanui: forget download | |
16:25 | wahanui | jcamins_away: I forgot download |
16:26 | jcamins_away | download is http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
16:26 | Thanks. | |
16:26 | drojf | mib_e3s3d5: my guess would be, it is authority controlled and you cannot enter a name directly? |
16:26 | gerundio | jcamins_away, the wrong being the current version? |
16:27 | jcamins_away | gerundio: and what is supported. |
16:27 | We don't support 3.4. | |
16:27 | gerundio | so always current - 2? |
16:27 | jcamins_away | @later tell wizzyrea could you please edit http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ to note that the current release is 3.10, and the previous releases still being supported are 3.6 and 3.8? |
16:27 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
16:27 | jcamins_away | gerundio: generally. |
16:27 | gerundio | don't tell me you're thinking about LTS :) |
16:28 | jcamins_away | gerundio: actually, there were threats to change it to current and current-1, but the RM's use of 3.6 persuaded someone to step up to maintain 3.6. |
16:28 | kf | gerundio: it gives you a formatted string I think |
16:28 | gerundio | RM as in Release Manager or Real Madrid? :o |
16:29 | kf | gerundio: you have to put <fine>ISOCODE</fine> in the notice |
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16:29 | kf | and there is a perl library to deal with the formating where the routine belongs too |
16:29 | mib_e3s3d5 | djrof-are you asking me? |
16:29 | kf | I waded through the documentation before, Ithink that part is right and should give you the formatted string with the right currency symbol |
16:30 | jcamins_away | gerundio: as in Release Manager. |
16:33 | gerundio | kf, I have <fine>EUR</fine> in the notice |
16:33 | and all I get in the email message is EUR and no fine value | |
16:34 | kf | hm ok |
16:34 | is there a fine? | |
16:34 | F or FU for that item? | |
16:34 | gerundio | and regarding your answer, been there and done that |
16:34 | looked into the http://search.cpan.org/~tnguye[…]at-1.28/Format.pm documentation and code | |
16:34 | kf | right, that is the one :) |
16:34 | gerundio | my question was about that particular code snippet |
16:35 | let me give some more insight on what I'm seeing there | |
16:36 | I'll be using the code from github so we can see the same line numbers | |
16:36 | https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]verdue_notices.pl | |
16:37 | scroll down to line 714 | |
16:37 | so basically we set $currency_format = $1; if there's a tag <fine>something</fine> in the notice content, right? | |
16:38 | jcamins_away | So long, everyone. |
16:38 | Have a good week and a half. | |
16:39 | gerundio | $1 as in the 1st argument passed on to the parse_letter function |
16:39 | jcamins_away, you will be missed | |
16:39 | have fun and get some proper rest | |
16:39 | kf | have anice vacation! |
16:39 | oleonard | Have a nice trip jcamins_away |
16:39 | gerundio | hope you get your bateries recharged duracell style |
16:40 | kf | gerundio: I think look up $1 |
16:40 | it's to do with the regex | |
16:41 | not with the params of the function | |
16:41 | it gets the EUR out - the first () of the rexex used before | |
16:41 | drojf | mib_e3s3d5: yes i was asking you for a decription of your problem |
16:42 | kf | regex |
16:42 | oleonard | d |
16:42 | gerundio | kf, oh right |
16:42 | kf | or I guess it should |
16:43 | gerundio | and then it just replaces the whole <fine>EUR</fine> tag for <<item.fine>> |
16:43 | got it | |
16:44 | kf | gerundio: there is no item.fine |
16:44 | or maybe there is... but it's not from the items table | |
16:44 | gerundio | just reading the code |
16:44 | $params->{'letter'}->{'content'} =~ s/<fine>.*<\/fine>/<<item.fine>>/o; | |
16:44 | it's not from the table | |
16:44 | my thoughts too at 1st | |
16:45 | kf | so it must look that up somewhere else |
16:45 | drojf | have a good time jcamins_away |
16:45 | gerundio | line 728 |
16:45 | $item->{'fine'} gets set | |
16:46 | then the whole $item is passed on | |
16:46 | kf | geru |
16:46 | gerundio | and from the looks of it must be mapped inside C4::Letters::GetPreparedLetter |
16:47 | kf | gerundio: sorry I have to leave - if you are around later I can try to take another look |
16:47 | gerundio | I think I'm focusing in the wrong place |
16:47 | sure kf | |
16:47 | probably I won't be here | |
16:47 | I'm leaving in an hour or so | |
16:47 | thanks for your time anyways | |
16:47 | kf++ :) | |
16:47 | kf | gerundio++ :) |
16:59 | bye all and have a nice weekend! | |
17:00 | drojf | you too kf |
17:01 | chris_n | @later tell wizzyrea, jcamins_away download page updated |
17:01 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
17:01 | chris_n | by kf |
17:01 | bye, even | |
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17:21 | nengard | question about the new alphabet system preference - is this just for the patron browse? |
17:21 | or is it used elsewhere | |
17:24 | oleonard | Just for that as far as I know |
17:24 | nengard | okey dokey |
17:24 | oleonard | Where else do we have an alphabet browse? I can't think of anywhere |
17:27 | nengard | I can't either |
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17:33 | * nengard: update OPACBaseURL to provide more detail | |
17:33 | * nengard: add alphabet preference | |
17:43 | gerundio | goodbye everyone |
17:43 | have a nice weekend | |
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17:46 | oleonard | khall: My patch for Bug 9456 doesn't fit the bill in what way? Customer requirements? |
17:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add callnumber column to the cart |
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17:48 | * cait | waves |
17:54 | oleonard | the view from my office window: http://www.screencast.com/t/Jtu3d8bs6MYI |
17:56 | cait | oh |
17:56 | similar to here :) | |
17:56 | well... not really, most of it has thawed away r | |
17:56 | rambutan | cool |
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18:17 | * nengard: update self check with new receipt option | |
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18:37 | rangi | https://library.education.govt.nz/ |
18:38 | Morning | |
18:38 | wahanui | Morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast |
18:39 | * rangi | is on the way to FirefoxOS day |
18:42 | rambutan | rangi rhymes |
18:42 | rangi | Hehe |
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18:47 | nengard: update batch anonymize tool | |
19:10 | * oleonard | wonders why Jenkins fails Docs builds |
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19:20 | nengard_lunch | oleonard it's a problem with the characters in the french translation ? or so I've been told |
19:20 | * oleonard | wonders what Jenkins has against the French |
19:22 | nengard_lunch | LOL |
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19:37 | rangi | its using entities instead of actul utf8 chars that is the problem |
19:38 | someone just needs to find the &cute; whatevers and put the actual chars in, and its fixed | |
19:39 | oleonard | That sounds simple enough rangi |
19:39 | Thanks | |
19:40 | rangi | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]bb1d-ddc47ffb263f |
19:40 | that ^ | |
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20:18 | * nengard: add SeparateHoldings & SeparateHoldingsBranch prefs | |
20:18 | * nengard: add missing SeparateHoldings & SeparateHoldingsBranch image | |
20:18 | * nengard: update Authorities Browser cron | |
20:20 | oleonard | Incorporating the login menu changes from Corey's patch: http://screencast.com/t/kTNX8VeS5h |
20:20 | @later tell wizzyrea Incorporating the login menu changes from Corey's patch: http://screencast.com/t/kTNX8VeS5h | |
20:20 | huginn | oleonard: The operation succeeded. |
20:21 | oleonard | I'd like to make it clearer that the username is a menu, but I haven't settled on anything yet |
20:22 | Need to get the cart popup working before it can be considered for signoff | |
20:25 | cait | oleonard++ |
20:25 | thx for working on this :) | |
20:26 | * oleonard | is excited to do it when he isn't overwhelmed by all the other things that need to be done |
20:26 | cait | :) |
20:26 | I am not sure about the @ tho | |
20:26 | I am not sure it translates well to non-geeks | |
20:26 | and at makes only make sense in english | |
20:27 | I mean reading it 'at' only makes sense in english | |
20:27 | unlike me.. I don't even make sense there | |
20:27 | really like how the pull downs look :) | |
20:28 | oleonard | yeah I think we need more discussion on that aspect of it. I like that it is more compact, but I also want it to be clear and the menu discoverable |
20:29 | cait | why not make it work similar to the more? |
20:29 | with a little arrow? | |
20:29 | I really doubt the @ would make sense outside of english | |
20:30 | for librarians | |
20:31 | well... details :) later | |
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21:00 | oleonard | Good weekend #koha |
21:01 | datadoctor | Hi All! I am interested in Acquisitions; new record creation. Is anyone else noticing that the random number assigned to each transaction breaks the browser's... |
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21:02 | datadoctor | form memorization? It looks like the random number allows multiple items to be created more quickly. |
21:02 | cait | ? |
21:02 | datadoctor: what exactly are you trying to do? | |
21:03 | datadoctor | Acquisitions is entering or editing the Marc record. They are cataloging for "Accelerated Reader" somewhere around 650c. They used to type "ac" |
21:04 | and the browser would suggest "Accelerated Reader." | |
21:04 | cait | hm |
21:04 | ok, i think I got confused because acquisitions doesn't hve those fields | |
21:04 | datadoctor | Now they have to do a search, and a lot of things come up. Hmmm. Maybe they could type a little more into the search field...? |
21:04 | cait | but I tink you mean cataloguing? |
21:04 | datadoctor | Yes, cataloging, sorry... |
21:05 | cait | are they using authorities? |
21:05 | datadoctor | I believe so. |
21:05 | cait | hm |
21:05 | not sure how to speed it up | |
21:06 | datadoctor | I'm thinking about it, and maybe they just need to type in a few more characters before they search, that would make for a smaller table of results to choose from. |
21:07 | The way to see this is to call up a book, then edit it's record. | |
21:09 | The fields used to be indentified as "tag_010_subfield_a" - now they are called "tag_010_subfield_a_776843_783466" so the browser sees it as a new subfield | |
21:09 | cait | i see |
21:09 | datadoctor | on each new record. The number appears to be randomly assigned. |
21:10 | cait | I think there is probably a reason to that :) |
21:10 | or i hope | |
21:11 | datadoctor | Perhaps a new feature that allows multiple items to be created in one step for the record. The items display in a mini table before the record is created. |
21:11 | Something like that. | |
21:12 | It changes the workflow from using the browser pull-down to using the built-in search feature. | |
21:13 | Then you choose the correct value from a table by scrolling down and pushing "choose." | |
21:13 | cait | datadoctor: you are really confusing me :) |
21:13 | items are not cataloguing | |
21:14 | different screen | |
21:14 | I am not sure where you are right now in Koha | |
21:14 | datadoctor | Thanks. I get confused about it too. I don't know the correct terminology. The problem occurs in cataloging. |
21:15 | cait | you can have repeatable fields... but there i sno item table in the cataloguing screen |
21:15 | it's a bit late here on a friday | |
21:15 | guess my brain is just tired | |
21:15 | datadoctor | I'm about to leave. I will try to think up a way to present this better. |
21:15 | cait | maybe screenshots :) |
21:15 | datadoctor | We see it when we receive incoming items. |
21:16 | cait | or step by step |
21:16 | datadoctor | But the problem occurs when we are doing the cataloging, and creating the record, not on the item screen. |
21:16 | cait | so in acq? |
21:16 | hm | |
21:17 | really not sure, sorry | |
21:17 | datadoctor | Thanks cait, I think I am confusing the item entry with the record entry. I'm going to check my facts and get back to you. |
21:18 | cait | weekends are pretty quiet here |
21:18 | maybe on monday you can catch a bigger crowd | |
21:18 | or you can try the mailing list | |
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