IRC log for #koha, 2013-01-18

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00:07 rambutan wahenui: meeting?
00:07 wahanui i guess meeting is over?
00:19 rangi what meeting?
00:19 wahanui it has been said that meeting is over?
00:23 rambutan just wondering when the next meeting might be
00:23 rangi ahh
00:25 feb 7
00:25 http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings
00:25 rambutan that's too much work. I wanted to just ask wahenui
00:25 gmcharlt not to be confused with the sort of meeting that sneaks up on one
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00:37 rangi thats a good photo
00:37 even if it was taken in 1976
00:37 jcamins_away lol
00:38 rangi instagram always makes me think that :)
00:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1012: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1012/
00:38 * hugh: Bug 9062 Fix format for discount rate for vendors
00:38 * hugh: Bug 9062 Fix spacing next to tax rate
00:38 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Hugh Davenport to history
00:39 * agent.075: Bug 9179 - Incorrect capitalization in serials-collection.pl
00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9062 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hugh, Pushed to Master , Tax and discount should be formatted the same
00:39 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Corey Fuimaono to history
00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9179 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Pushed to Master , Incorrect capitalization in serials-collection.pl
00:46 rambutan Now I had to stop and think about this.
00:46 "http://t.co/JYPhQRyR"
00:46 "<rangi> thats a good photo even if it was taken in 1976"
00:47 and I look at the photo, and that's a mighty nice laptop for 1976, so I sniff around...
00:48 and wikipedia says: "What was probably the first portable computer was the Xerox NoteTaker, again developed at Xerox PARC, in 1976. However, only 10 prototypes were built."
00:48 rangi heh
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01:44 MrAgent075 Woot! xD
01:47 jcamins_away You know, the "Please install basic configuration settings" bit in the webinstaller makes no sense at all.
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01:56 rangi 201!!
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01:56 jcamins_away Yup!
02:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #1013 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9398' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fe0c703c37882eeb5> / Bug 9398 - [ ? ] Link Lacks Context for All General Users (Accessibility) [Contexual... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b04544a74fdf11a62> / Merge branch 'bug_8401' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?
02:06 jcamins_away rangi: bug 9376.
02:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9376 minor, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Passed QA , Problem with dateexpiry display in moremember.tt
02:06 rangi right im off to upper hutt now, and then to wings over wairarapa tomorrow
02:06 jcamins_away Wait!
02:06 rangi hmm?
02:06 jcamins_away My inclination is to push it to master because the HTML is wrong, even though it's not visible in master.
02:07 Good reasoning?
02:07 rangi seems fine to me
02:07 jcamins_away Thanks.
02:07 Okay, so long.
02:14 Well, bug 9310 might be difficult to test.
02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9310 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Patron image upload template corrections
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03:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9108' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f7ffb63c3f9b8ca0> / Bug 9108: Followup: send the dateformat value from C4::Auth <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]235c2475f662c8da4> / Bug 9108 - Add uk/euro date sort filter to pages which require it <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
03:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1013: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1013/
03:09 * gmc: Bug 9413: fix sample notice SQL for en
03:09 * fred.pierre: Bug 8401 : Highlighting of search terms in preference causes loss of data
03:09 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Fred Pierre to history
03:09 * agent.075: Bug 9398 - [ ? ] Link Lacks Context for All General Users (Accessibility) [Contexual Help]
03:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9413 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Renewal notice features breaks English installer
03:09 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8401 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Search term deleted from system preference content
03:09 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9398 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Pushed to Master , [ ? ] Link Lacks Context for All General Users (Accessibility) [Contexual Help]
03:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #1014 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9276' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c46a3213bf83a3234> / Bug 9276 - Display of biblio-level auth vals on OPAC search broken <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]db78046397f674a0f>
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04:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1014: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1014/
04:15 * kyle: Bug 9229 - branch code instead of name in subscription-detail.pl
04:15 * vfernandes: Bug 9376: Problem with dateexpiry display in moremember.tt
04:15 * gmc: Bug 9376: extend HTML fix to moremember-brief.tt
04:15 * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9147: OPAC hidden fields are not hidden in ISBD view
04:15 * oleonard: Bug 9310 - Patron image upload template corrections
04:15 * oleonard: Bug 9108 - Add uk/euro date sort filter to pages which require it
04:15 * jonathan.druart: Bug 9108: Followup: send the dateformat value from C4::Auth
04:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9229 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , branch code instead of name in subscription-detail.pl
04:15 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9376 minor, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Problem with dateexpiry display in moremember.tt
04:15 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9147 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , OPAC hidden fields are not hidden in ISBD view
04:15 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9310 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron image upload template corrections
04:15 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9108 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add uk/euro date sort filter to pages which require it
04:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #1015 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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04:49 vkm hello all
04:49 may i know the location of patron image file in koha
04:59 mtj afaik, its in a table, in the database
05:00 … not sure which table, or column tho :/
05:03 http://schema.koha-community.o[…]/patronimage.html
05:04 patronimage.imagefile
05:04 vkm ok
05:05 mtj …just look at the database schema, like i just did :)
05:06 schema?
05:06 wahanui schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org
05:10 vkm i used 3.6.4 live cd for production porpose and installed it on IBM server which works fine, now i have made my own live cd with 3.8.8 ubuntu package installation and made live cd with many customization can i transfer it own live server
05:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1015: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1015/
05:20 oleonard: Bug 9276 - Display of biblio-level auth vals on OPAC search broken
05:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9276 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Display of biblio-level authorized values on OPAC search results broken
05:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #1016 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:21 mtj vkm, sorry - i do not undersand your question?
05:23 you want to upgrade your production 3.6.4 koha, to a 3.8.8 koha… with many customizations?
05:25 vkm no i have made live cd of 3.8.8 can i use it on server by reinstalling and restoring the backup of 3.6.4
05:28 i have cutomized 3.8.8 in the same way as i done in 3.6.4 so after testing i just want to replace 3.6.4 from the server and want to install 3.8.8 and restore the database of 3.6.4
05:29 mtj ok
05:29 yes, you can do that :)
05:30 vkm thx
05:37 mtj vkm, its just a very simple koha db upgrade
05:38 load your 3.6 koha.sql file into your 3.8 system, and hit http://yourkoha.com:8080 to start the upgrade
05:40 then… have a beer and pizza :p
05:54 vkm did everything except real installation and beer/pizza
06:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1016: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1016/
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07:23 * magnuse waves
07:33 alex_a_ Bonjour !
07:33 magnuse kia ora alex_a_
07:34 alex_a_ hello magnuse
07:34 @wunder boo
07:34 huginn alex_a_: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:34 alex_a_ What ?
07:34 @wunder rrs
07:34 huginn alex_a_: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -29.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -32.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:34 alex_a_ Wooo cold today !
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07:35 magnuse they had -34 during the night :-)
07:35 reiveune hello
07:35 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:35 wahanui hello, reiveune
07:35 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -2.0°C (8:30 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
07:35 cait good morning :)
07:35 @wunder Konstanz
07:35 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -6.6°C (8:35 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
07:36 cait yikes
07:36 magnuse hah, 5 degrees warmer in bodø than in marseille!
07:36 cait and lots warmer than here...
07:36 magnuse 9.6 degrees warmer than Konstanz
07:36 cait and of course, i am travelling today
07:36 yay
07:36 reiveune hi cait, magnuse, yes it's cold in Marseille today ;)
07:37 magnuse and houses in marseille are probably not built for that?
07:37 any snow?
07:38 cait yep
07:38 lots of snow
07:38 reiveune magnuse: Unfortunately, you're right (for the houses) but no snow
07:38 cait oh, snow in Konstanz I mean
07:38 reiveune ha ok :)
07:39 alex_a_ There was snow yesterday in Aix en Provence which is about 20km at the north of marseille
07:40 magnuse ah, ski-weekend in Aix it is, then!
07:40 reiveune haha
07:44 alex_a_ lol
07:49 cait :)
07:49 ook.... I have to go out there now....
07:49 @wunder Konstanz
07:49 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -6.7°C (8:45 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
07:50 cait brrrr.
07:50 hope to be back later :)
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08:04 francharb good morning #koha
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08:26 magnuse bonjour biblibre :-)
08:26 paul_p good morning everybody
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08:27 gaetan_B hello
08:27 wahanui hola, gaetan_B
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08:30 magnuse cold office in rue breteuil today?
08:32 paul_p magnuse = it's really very cold in Marseille those days. With a lot of "mistral" (our wind).
08:32 @wunder marseille
08:32 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -2.0°C (9:00 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
08:32 paul_p @wunder bodo
08:32 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
08:32 magnuse mohahaha :-)
08:32 paul_p It's colder in Marseille !!!!!
08:32 magnuse :-)
08:33 paul_p OK, I take a plane, i'll be here tomorrow ;-)
08:33 magnuse is the mistral the kind of wind that drives people crazy?
08:33 paul_p: you're welcome!
08:33 paul_p magnuse well, there's mistral very often, so I don't think it drives ppl crazy.
08:34 * magnuse seems to remember something about a wind that drives people crazy from some movie
08:34 magnuse "manon et la source" or something?
08:34 paul_p "manon des sources". from Marcel Pagnol.
08:34 magnuse ah yes
08:35 just make sure the cole weather is finnished in time for the hackfest, ok?
08:35 paul_p OK, I see what you mean. It's a part of "provence tradition" Marcel pagnol & marseille accent. But here we don't say mistral makes us crazy ;-)
08:35 magnuse maybe because you are all crazy already? ;-)
08:36 paul_p magnuse there are unproved rumors saying it last 3,5 or 9 days (and never 2, 4, 6, 7,8,...)
08:36 magnuse cool :-)
08:36 paul_p magnuse for sure, ppl from Marseille are all crazy, that's a well known fact :o)
08:36 magnuse hehe
08:37 paul_p magnuse in France, for exemple, we often speak of "sardines that clogged the port", for example. And many many things about marseille ppl exagerating.
08:38 magnuse lol
08:38 paul_p "I have sinned a sardine that weighted 3kg"
08:38 (think Tartarin de tarascon -tarascon is close to marseille)
08:39 magnuse hehe, fish seems to inspire exageration in people :-)
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09:00 cait-m_ hello
09:00 @wunder konstanz
09:00 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.2°C (10:00 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
09:08 magnuse cait-m_: getting warmer! :-)
09:12 cait-m_ hmpf
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09:37 magnuse @wunder berlin, germany
09:37 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -1.9°C (10:13 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
09:37 magnuse @wunder boo
09:37 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
09:38 magnuse moahaha
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09:40 drojf lol magnuse
09:41 norwegian summer? ;)
09:42 magnuse yup!
09:42 :-)
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10:02 vfernandes hello
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10:41 slef heh... anyone like to tell me how one should treat & in alphabetic sorting?
10:42 do we ignore &, regard & as its own letter or regard it as "and"?
10:42 (if its own letter, I think it's usually sorted after z...)
10:47 wahanui: coding guidelines?
10:47 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines
10:53 slef Changes submitted for bug 9418
10:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9418 trivial, P5 - low, ---, vfernandes, Failed QA , Some corrections and additions to about.tt
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11:35 vfernandes slef... I've already corrected the & to &amp;
11:38 slef vfernandes: thanks. Any idea on the placing?
11:39 vfernandes no... there is no codelines for that
11:41 maybe jcamins can give a opinion
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11:45 cait-m_ hi #koha
11:45 @wunder stuttgart
11:45 huginn cait-m_: Error: No such location could be found.
11:45 cait-m_ oh hm
11:53 slef vfernandes: we'll have to wait for him to wake up...
11:53 @wunder stüttgart
11:53 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
11:53 slef is that it?
11:53 nope
11:54 @wunder EDDS
11:54 huginn slef: The current temperature in 2 mi s of EDDS, Filderstadt, Germany is -0.6°C (12:54 PM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
11:54 * slef wonders if that is right
11:54 slef @wunder stuttgart, Germany
11:54 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
11:54 slef huginn hates Germany
11:54 huginn slef: I suck
11:54 slef huginn: yes, you do
11:55 huginn slef: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
11:55 slef @wunder EGYH
11:55 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
11:55 * slef eviscerates huginn
11:55 slef @wunder EGYM
11:55 huginn slef: The current temperature in Flick's, Weeting, United Kingdom is -1.3°C (11:55 AM GMT on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1005 hPa (Falling).
11:55 slef can't read my own writing :-/
12:05 gerundio hi, good morning
12:12 jcamins_away slef: I usually sort "space" first.
12:16 slef jcamins_away: got reference?
12:16 vfernandes so it's correct like i have done...
12:16 slef looks odd to me and I don't know why
12:17 jcamins_away slef: Chicago says they prefer to use letter-by-letter, but sorting spaces first can be done if necessary.
12:19 vfernandes slef patch committed to correct the problem with &
12:28 gerundio what is field 999 for in MARC21?
12:28 jcamins_away biblionumer and biblioitemnumber.
12:28 Do not change it!
12:28 slef @marc 952
12:28 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29
12:28 huginn slef: unknown tag 952
12:28 slef gerundio: see that ^^
12:29 gerundio: any MARC21 field with a 9 in is "for local use"
12:31 gerundio I'm using UNIMARC
12:31 I have barcode and stocknumber in 995f and 995j
12:32 vfernandes 995 its the unimarc field for items
12:32 gerundio but when I look at the DB for the items table record it get stored in the more_subfields_xml column as tag="999" code="f" a
12:32 and code="j"
12:32 is this normal behavior?
12:33 vfernandes yes!
12:33 jcamins_away Oh.
12:33 I forgot you were using UNIMARC.
12:33 vfernandes gerundio that's normal
12:33 jcamins_away I have no idea what it is.
12:35 gerundio vfernandes++ jcamins_away++ (because sometimes having no idea is ++ :p)
12:36 btw, vfernandes do you usually map the stocknumber items' table field with MARC 995j to use the stocknumberam123.pl plugin script?
12:37 I have a DB filled with item records withe the stocknumber stored in the XML and not in the table collumn itself
12:37 vfernandes gerundio i'm not a librarian :), but in the servers that I have access the stocknumber are introduced by hand
12:37 gerundio in order to use this I'll have to create a script to move the data from the XML to the table collumn
12:37 ok
12:38 my librarians already had requested a tool to generate barcodes and stocknumbers so you see the deal
12:38 vfernandes you can do take even without do a script
12:38 gerundio I rather use KOHA's built-in tools to do so
12:38 and improve them if necessary
12:39 I think it's the better approach... win win
12:39 lunch time, cya later
12:39 vfernandes off course it is... the modification to the column you can do it without a script
12:39 use SQL and ExtractValue
12:40 gerundio I rather use script instead of direct SQL injection
12:40 it might be usefull to someone else is the community too
12:41 vfernandes even better :)
12:51 jcamins_away Updating MARC blobs directly in the database is a bad idea. Your indexes will get screwed up.
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13:27 oleonard Hi #koha
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13:45 jcamins_away Hey, if anyone has a chance, could they please check whether reserves get recorded in old_reserves when they are filled on master?
13:46 oleonard Sure jcamins_away
13:47 jcamins_away Thanks.
13:47 oleonard jcamins_away: Yes.
13:48 jcamins_away Good!
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14:22 H H hey koha is there annyone here who knows in what marc field you should put the previous name of a magazine
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14:34 slef bah to H
14:34 @marc 247
14:34 huginn slef: A former title proper when one cataloging record represents several titles associated with an entity. (Repeatable) [a,b,f,g,h,n,p,x,6,8]
14:35 libsysguy hey I didn't know huginn did that
14:36 magnuse something new to learn every day on #koha ;-)
14:36 slef @roulette
14:36 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
14:36 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers.
14:36 slef @wunder EGYM
14:36 huginn slef: The current temperature in Flick's, Weeting, United Kingdom is -1.3°C (2:36 PM GMT on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling).
14:37 slef huginn: no, Conditions: snowing
14:37 huginn slef: I've exhausted my database of quotes
14:37 libsysguy @eightball will nginx get working soon?
14:37 huginn libsysguy: The outlook is poor.
14:37 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
14:37 slef @wunder EGYD
14:37 huginn slef: The current temperature in Cranwell, United Kingdom is -2.0°C (1:50 PM GMT on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling).
14:37 magnuse @wunder boo
14:37 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (3:20 PM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
14:37 magnuse woohoo!
14:37 libsysguy @list games
14:37 huginn libsysguy: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
14:37 magnuse @wunder marseille
14:37 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 3.0°C (3:30 PM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
14:37 libsysguy @monologue
14:37 huginn libsysguy: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
14:37 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
14:37 magnuse bah, catching up to me...
14:37 slef tropical Bodo
14:37 magnuse hehe
14:38 oleonard @coin
14:38 huginn oleonard: tails
14:38 * oleonard doesn't know what to do with that
14:38 slef @wunder Holbeach, United Kingdom
14:38 huginn slef: The current temperature in Moulton Seas End, Spalding, United Kingdom is -1.3°C (2:38 PM GMT on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling).
14:38 libsysguy @list
14:38 huginn libsysguy: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, Network, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, ReleaseDay, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather
14:38 slef that's closer... I'm sure Gedney Hill is in there somewhere
14:39 @wunder Gedney Hill, United Kingdom
14:39 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:39 slef @wunder Leverington, United Kingdom
14:39 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:39 slef @wunder Leverington Common, United Kingdom
14:39 libsysguy @list dunno
14:39 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:39 libsysguy: add, change, get, remove, search, and stats
14:40 libsysguy @karma libsysguy
14:40 huginn libsysguy: Karma for "libsysguy" has been increased 33 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 33.
14:40 magnuse @dunno stats
14:40 huginn magnuse: There are 5 dunnos in my database.
14:41 magnuse @dunno 1
14:41 huginn magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
14:41 slef @wunder ICAMBRID13
14:41 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:41 magnuse ah
14:41 slef huginn: you what? I took that from wunder!
14:41 huginn slef: I suck
14:41 magnuse gah, my error from yesterday raises its ugly head again, this time when i choose the default framework in cataloguing: Can't use string ("") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-​bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 666. something to do with $tagslib, for sure
14:42 slef where addbiblio.pl line 666 is?
14:43 @wunder ICAMBRID13, United Kingdom
14:43 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:43 slef @wunder Begdale, United Kingdom
14:43 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:43 magnuse slef: foreach my $subfield ( sort( keys %{ $tagslib->{$tag} } ) ) {
14:43 slef magnuse: $tagslib->{$tag} == undef?
14:44 magnuse slef: dunno, it says "Can't use string ("") as a HASH ref"
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14:47 slef magnuse: $tagslib         = &GetMarcStructure( 1, $frameworkcode );
14:48 H: say @marc 247
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14:49 H Im interested in putting Succeeding Entry in my koha but there is no field 785 http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd785.html anny tips ?
14:49 slef magnuse: so I'd probably enable KOHA_BACKTRACES and see if that says what key it's looking for... but probably it won't... or use a warn to try to discover it.
14:49 @query Succeeding Entry
14:49 H ah 247 sec i take a look
14:49 huginn slef: No results for "Succeeding Entry."
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14:49 slef H: I suspect you may need to add unusual MARC fields to frameworks
14:50 @wunder EGXC
14:50 huginn slef: The current temperature in Coningsby, United Kingdom is -1.0°C (1:50 PM GMT on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling).
14:50 H ok
14:50 slef huginn: fail
14:50 huginn slef: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
14:56 maximep @wunder cyqb
14:56 huginn maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is -21.3°C (9:56 AM EST on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -28.0°C. Windchill: -21.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
14:56 maximep crazy weather
15:11 jcamins_away khall: self-sign offs are not a problem, as long as the patch isn't marked "Signed off" because of them.
15:11 magnuse maximep: winter weather, by the looks of it :-)
15:11 jcamins_away A lot of people use a sign off line to indicate "I want this to go into $Project."
15:13 khall I understand. I inadvertently set one to signed-off because my habit is to read the raw patch first. I noticed the SO and set it to signed-off without thinking.
15:14 vfernandes koha 3.8.9 is released when?
15:14 jcamins_away Ah. I am tethered so e-mail reading was necessarily cursory.
15:14 vfernandes 22th?
15:14 jcamins_away January 22.
15:15 vfernandes humm thanks... i hope to finish the 3.10 translations on time
15:15 :)
15:15 3.10.2 is released on the same date right?
15:16 jcamins_away Yes.
15:33 vfernandes pootle is slow :/
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16:01 reiveune bye
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16:26 gmcharlt vfernandes: "I read that as 3.10.2 is released on the same date night?" ... sadly, I can empathisize with that
16:26 libsysguy is there a shell script to export all biblios in marc format?
16:30 gmcharlt libsysguy: the web export tool (tools/export.pl) can also be run from the command-line
16:31 it's the Janus of Koha!
16:33 libsysguy ahh okay cool I thought it might
16:34 but as I was diving through that tool I didn't see getopt, get params everywhere :p
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16:37 libsysguy gmcharlt is there a param to pass when running that script?  it looks like I just get the login info when I try and run it without flags
16:37 gmcharlt libsysguy: does tools/export.pl --help work for you?
16:38 libsysguy no, I get the same thing
16:38 was it added after 3.8.5?
16:38 gmcharlt libsysguy: ah, indeed it was
16:38 libsysguy ah
16:39 I was afraid of that
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16:46 * oleonard grabs a long length of rope and a torch and jumps into Search.pm
16:48 libsysguy god speed oleonard
16:51 oh gmcharlt I forgot to ask…did you make any headway on the wip git server
16:52 gmcharlt libsysguy: no, ended up doing some stuff for customers last night ... but I'll have time this weekend
16:52 * oleonard scoffs Customers! Pf!
16:53 gmcharlt :)
16:53 libsysguy customers pishaw
16:54 gmcharlt what is the reason for having a wip server rather than just adding a wip branch on git.k-c.org
16:54 gmcharlt libsysguy: oh, it wouldn't be a whole new server ... just a new repo on git.k-c.org that all (registered) folks can push to
16:54 libsysguy ahh okay okay
16:55 I was looking for a place to push my calendar work until dbix class gets in
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17:38 * magnuse wishes #koha a good weekend
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18:07 gerundio have a nice weekend everyone
18:19 gaetan_B bye
18:35 jcamins_away I just got a problematic message in the staff client.
18:35 I will take a picture.
18:35 A book is being both transferred to a different library _and_ held.
18:36 Has anyone ever seen this: http://screencast.com/t/OVtfuTU77hR
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18:44 jcamins_away Okay, someone did not sign off on bug 9384.
18:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9384 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , With  OPACPatronDetails set to 'don't allow' a form shows
18:44 jcamins_away Not that one.
18:44 Bug 9348.
18:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9348 minor, P3, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Format dates in HOLD notices consistently
18:45 jcamins_away I see that Jonathan tried to, though, so I'll add the signed-off-by line.
18:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9348' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6fe1ffb2095def6be> / Bug 9348 - Format dates in HOLD notices consistently <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7d2bcd24b13785abd>
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19:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #1017 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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19:50 libsysguy holy moses there is a lot of QA-ing that needs done
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19:56 gmcharlt those patches!  they keep coming, and coming, and...
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19:56 rambutan good work gmcharlt, you scared off sekjal
19:57 libsysguy I'm not sure if I should be happy there are so many patches or mad that Koha is so buggy :p
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19:59 oleonard Not buggy, improving!
19:59 libsysguy there is the optimist
19:59 hehe
20:00 gmcharlt a project that isn't used never gets bug reports
20:00 libsysguy true that
20:01 also a project that never moves forward
20:01 cait not sure what the topic is - but complaining doesn't fix bugs :)
20:01 and hi all :)
20:01 libsysguy I'm QA-ing
20:01 cait excellent :)
20:02 * libsysguy tries to stop the finger from pointing at himself
20:02 libsysguy but I've only passed 3 today :'(
20:02 cait oh?
20:02 I was gone all day, mostly without internet
20:02 libsysguy yeah…friday is my QA day
20:02 cait I have no idea what happened today :)
20:02 libsysguy heh
20:03 TO THE DASHBOARD!!
20:03 jcamins_away I managed to push bug 9348.
20:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9348 minor, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Format dates in HOLD notices consistently
20:04 cait jcamins: oh nice - I think
20:04 haven't tested it myself :)
20:04 jcamins It works.
20:04 cait yay
20:04 metric formats?
20:04 jcamins I had a devil of a time with it, though...
20:04 turns out that changing notices requires you to restart Plack.
20:07 libsysguy do you have to do a full restart or can you just reload
20:07 jcamins I don't know.
20:08 My restartplack script is for restarting Plack not reloading it, so I restart.
20:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1017: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1017/
20:08 kyle: Bug 9348 - Format dates in HOLD notices consistently
20:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9348 minor, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Format dates in HOLD notices consistently
20:10 jcamins What we need is to not use variables for caching data... ever.
20:13 libsysguy I would assume that has the same affect as lazy loading in DBIx::Class
20:13 to cache or not to cache…that is the question
20:13 oh there is #4 for today
20:13 I'm gaining on you cait :p
20:14 cait not that hard :)
20:15 this week was the usual amount of insanity
20:15 libsysguy yeah well I had been slacking
20:15 cait and you could actually qa my patches
20:15 if you didn't do that anyway ;)
20:16 jcamins libsysguy: caching is good. Caching using module variables is not.
20:16 libsysguy I'll do a search for you cait…is there one in particular you wanted me to look at?
20:18 cait I think there were 2 signed off when I left this moring
20:19 you can just sort the signed off queue by name yo uknow :)
20:19 that's what i do - bugzilla doesn't like when I search for names
20:20 libsysguy bs searching is picky
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20:20 libsysguy s/bz/bs
20:21 agh you know what I mean lol
20:21 cait I'm curious about the grace days patch
20:21 cait me too but that needs more time for testing than I had this week
20:21 and it's not a major, criticla or blocker thing... so it moved down a bit on my list
20:21 libsysguy gotcha
20:21 cait I think I will have to learn how to write unit tests for htat
20:22 or automated tests of some kind
20:22 libsysguy SELENIUM!!!
20:22 wahanui i think selenium is more things like "perform this action, ensure that this is the result"
20:22 cait libsysguy: selenium won't help me there
20:22 I have to run the overdues cronjob
20:22 libsysguy I am thinking about writing a patch to do that from tools
20:22 cait or see if the routine gives the right value
20:22 libsysguy I'm just not sure how to do it yet
20:22 cait with holidays involved and all that
20:23 libsysguy because I want to be able to do that with fines too
20:23 cait why would you want that?
20:23 libsysguy testing
20:23 cait not sure it's worth the trouble
20:23 overdues has a gazillion of parameters
20:23 unlike fines
20:24 libsysguy fines was the one I wanted to do
20:24 overdues runs now every time you check in
20:24 argh I don't know if I can sign off on your patches cait
20:24 nengard singed them off
20:24 cait ah right
20:24 never mind then
20:24 libsysguy waits for jcamins to say its okay :p
20:25 cait bit of a problem i guess... since it's marc21
20:25 maybe marcel
20:25 jcamins libsysguy: I was just writing out why running fines from tools is a problem...
20:25 libsysguy haha
20:25 sorry to cut you off
20:25 continue
20:25 jcamins To summarize: it seems like a very dangerous feature for very limited benefits.
20:26 cait ^^
20:26 libsysguy even if it was only available to the root user?
20:26 jcamins Yup.
20:26 How many people have we had complaining something was broken because they always used kohaadmin?
20:27 libsysguy heh since 3.10…a LOT
20:27 cait for reasons
20:27 it's unreasonable using it.
20:28 and I think we should not have features requiring it.... that's just too hard to explain to people.
20:30 nengard hi all - say hi to NH libraries in my demo
20:30 libsysguy Hi NH libraries
20:30 cait hi NH libraries
20:31 jcamins Hello from New York.
20:31 nengard Okay - back to work for me ;) thanks guys!!
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20:55 oleonard Hm, so DataTables breaks if you have a colspan in your table header. Good to know.
20:55 * oleonard mutters bitterly at DataTables
20:59 cait oh
21:04 oleonard Four down, forty-something to go.
21:05 cait tables?
21:05 wahanui tables are now sorted by class, not ID: $(".sorted").tablesorter
21:06 oleonard wahanui: forget tables
21:06 wahanui oleonard: I forgot tables
21:06 oleonard cait: yes
21:06 cait ouch
21:07 * cait hands oleonard the cookie tin
21:07 cait cookie jar?
21:07 oleonard I don't discriminate by cookie container ;)
21:08 I'm off. See you later everyone
21:08 jcamins I need to bake today.
21:08 Also decide what I'm serving for dinner tomorrow.
21:08 cait one sec... did he just run off with all the cookies?
21:09 jcamins cait: looks like it.
21:09 wahanui hmmm... looks like it is a PDF download from there.
21:09 cait ....
21:09 that was... sneaky.
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23:39 alohabot Hi mib_r6zocg, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name.  If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
23:40 jcamins @later tell mtj Could you please have alohabot announce that it, wahanui, and huginn are bots?
23:40 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.

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