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| 00:23 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 00:23 | Brooke | o/ |
| 00:23 | jcamins | o/ |
| 00:24 | Brooke | okie smarties |
| 00:24 | anyone on use Blacklight with Koha? | |
| 00:24 | jcamins | I don't. |
| 00:24 | Brooke | specifically, I'm looking at a forced query involving batch exports from Koha > Blacklight |
| 00:24 | jcamins | There's a Blacklight connector, I think, so someone must. |
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| 04:42 | wajasu | now that i finally got all my biblios linked with all my authorities just right, the end of the world seems to have arrived. |
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| 06:22 | cait | Morning all |
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| 06:43 | magnuse | happy solstice, #koha! |
| 06:47 | cait1 | hi magnuse :) |
| 06:51 | magnuse | hiya cait1 |
| 06:51 | hm, the last thing wajasu said was "the end of the world seems to have arrived" - that's kind of ominous... | |
| 06:52 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:52 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (7:20 AM CET on December 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:52 | magnuse | windchill-- |
| 06:52 | @wunder marseille | |
| 06:52 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0°C (7:30 AM CET on December 21, 2012). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:52 | magnuse | ooh, not too hot! |
| 06:57 | cait1 | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:57 | huginn | cait1: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Friedrichshafen DE, Friedrichshafen, Germany is 2.8°C (7:35 AM CET on December 21, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:57 | cait1 | friedrichshafen... really? |
| 06:57 | that's on the other side of the lake! | |
| 06:59 | magnuse | lake shmake, it's all in germany, right? ;-) |
| 06:59 | cait1 | yes, still germany, but normally I get my weather from switzerland :) |
| 07:00 | magnuse | ah, german weather isn't good enough for you? it has to be imported? |
| 07:03 | cait1 | lol |
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| 07:39 | alex_a_ | bonjour |
| 07:39 | wahanui | hello, alex_a_ |
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| 07:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:40 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
| 07:42 | magnuse | bonjour france! |
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| 08:03 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:20 | francharb | good morning #koha |
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| 08:42 | magnuse | kia ora qam! |
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| 08:49 | kf | kia ora bug wrangler |
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| 09:02 | drojf | kf: you called? ;) |
| 09:03 | magnuse | @later tell jcamins: you might want to have another look at the last sentence on http://www.jaredcamins.com/ :-) |
| 09:03 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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| 09:10 | kf | drojf: go to work :P |
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| 09:10 | drojf | kf: heh. no. i should start to pack |
| 09:11 | kf | how long will you be gone? :) |
| 09:11 | drojf | don't know yet. a week at least, have not bought a ticket back yet |
| 09:12 | i will take my notebook and tablet so i might show up here from time to time. santa signoff or something ;) | |
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| 09:17 | kf | drojf: cool. same for me - laptop and tablet... hehe |
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| 09:32 | magnuse | kf: ooh, you got yourself a tablet at last? |
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| 09:43 | kf | magnuse: I did :) |
| 09:44 | magnuse: shiny asus transformer, I like it a lot, but it still needs some tweaking | |
| 09:44 | magnuse: rangi recommended a good irc app yesterday and I am starting to figure out mail clients :) | |
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| 09:51 | magnuse | kf: yay! |
| 09:58 | and it's probably excellent for reading e-books :-) | |
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| 10:03 | vfernandes | hello |
| 10:06 | kf | magnuse: that's antoher thing I have to figure out yet :) |
| 10:07 | magnuse: but christmas holidays are a good time to play with new toys | |
| 10:12 | lms left #koha | |
| 10:12 | kf | hi vfernandes |
| 10:12 | magnuse | kf: yup |
| 10:14 | kf | magnuse: what are your plans? |
| 10:15 | magnuse | for xmas? eat good food and relax :-= |
| 10:15 | huh? s/:-=/:-)/ | |
| 10:15 | kf | do you have a christmas tree? |
| 10:16 | magnuse | not yet, but we will try to get one today. a small one |
| 10:16 | kf | :) |
| 10:16 | i persuaded my dad we needed one too this year | |
| 10:16 | with the little nephews being around | |
| 10:17 | magnuse | oh yes! |
| 10:17 | i don't expect leonard to fully grasp the concept of the xmas tree yet, but next year is another story... | |
| 10:18 | kf | :) |
| 10:18 | small christmas tree, small leonard | |
| 10:18 | makes perfect sense to me | |
| 10:22 | magnuse | hehe |
| 10:23 | might end up with a big tree if we keep up with that logic :-) | |
| 10:25 | gah, the problem with double itemtypes persists... | |
| 10:37 | ah, i think i found it: when i migrated the data i managed to add one 942 field per ite, and the multiple 942s are confusing the form for adding new items, which tries to guess the y subfield based on what is in 942... | |
| 10:38 | kf | aaha |
| 10:46 | magnuse | pebcak |
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| 10:48 | gerundio | hi, good morning |
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| 12:07 | vfernandes | finally koha 3.8 staff client 100% completed in portugues - http://200.16.16.190/pt/38/ :D |
| 12:15 | jcamins_away | vfernandes++ |
| 12:15 | jcamins | magnuse: am I ever not happy to discuss bibliography? |
| 12:17 | :) | |
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| 12:30 | vfernandes | only system preferences are remaining |
| 12:30 | :) | |
| 12:31 | jcamins | vfernandes: oh, you're here. |
| 12:31 | I have a question. | |
| 12:31 | Bug 9151. | |
| 12:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9151 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Passed QA , Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences |
| 12:32 | jcamins | Why did you choose to use a syspref instead of just adding another line to the EnhancedMessaging table? |
| 12:34 | vfernandes | because a renewal notice it's like a item checkout notice so it could use the same entrie in EnhancedMessaging table |
| 12:35 | that's the only reason | |
| 12:35 | renewal = new checkout | |
| 12:36 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 12:36 | The feature works great, I was just surprised there was a syspref instead of another option for patrons. | |
| 12:36 | paul_p: around? | |
| 12:36 | vfernandes | I think it's a good and nice new feature |
| 12:43 | paul_p | jcamins yes ? |
| 12:44 | * paul_p | plan to QA this afternoon (then 1 week AFK, see you next year !!!) |
| 12:44 | * chris_n | will be 1 wk afk on 21 dec :) |
| 12:44 | jcamins | paul_p: I would like to push 7167. |
| 12:45 | When I do that, I will need to give instructions. | |
| 12:45 | So that people use the new upgrade procedure. | |
| 12:45 | Have you written anything? | |
| 12:53 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Add Nadia Nicolaides to history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]06dd8e0c40d14c0e6> / Follow-up Bug 5634: Ordering branches should be case independent <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed07999945ec10cd5> / Bug 9151: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff;h=dd754c3108dd |
| 12:59 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #988 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 13:00 | vfernandes | yes another patch pushed :) |
| 13:01 | ohhh in this patches I forgot to set the sponsored-by label in the commit comment | |
| 13:02 | Sponsored-by: KEEP SOLUTIONS | |
| 13:02 | :D | |
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| 13:06 | jcamins | vfernandes: it only need to appear once per release. |
| 13:06 | paul_p | jcamins, sorry, was called for a quick & unexpected meeting. |
| 13:07 | jcamins | No problem. |
| 13:07 | I actually have been in the other room for the past twenty minutes. | |
| 13:07 | I realized that we had some resource contention, so I was pre-empting the shower. ;) | |
| 13:07 | paul_p | jcamins nope, I haven't written anything about the upgrade procedure, sorry |
| 13:08 | jcamins | Want to? :) |
| 13:08 | paul_p | jcamins = pushing bug 7167 will be a great chrismas gift for joubu & me (cc clrh) |
| 13:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements |
| 13:08 | * jcamins | thinks it will be a good Christmas gift for all involved. |
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| 13:13 | clrh | \o/ |
| 13:13 | jcamins++ | |
| 13:14 | jcamins | If someone wants to draft instructions for database updates, that will greatly smooth the inclusion of 7167. |
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| 13:15 | jcamins | Oh, drat. |
| 13:15 | I just thought of a problem. | |
| 13:15 | Is there a way to run the updates from the command line? | |
| 13:18 | paul_p | jcamins = yes, let me found it |
| 13:18 | jcamins admin/updatedatabase.pl --all or something like that iirc | |
| 13:20 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 13:20 | druthb | installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
| 13:21 | paul_p | druthb = jcamins was asking "how to run the updates from the command line *with bug 7167*" ;-) |
| 13:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements |
| 13:21 | druthb | oh. |
| 13:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9260: stop koha-run-backups complaining "missing ]" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fb7f553969b7e792e> |
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| 13:24 | Joubu | hi #koha |
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| 13:24 | kf | hi Joubu - merry christmas |
| 13:24 | and merry christmas to oleonard :) | |
| 13:25 | Joubu | hi kf, thanks |
| 13:26 | oleonard | Thanks kf :) |
| 13:26 | Joubu | Jared, paul_p tells me you have a Christmas' gift for me ? |
| 13:26 | :) | |
| 13:30 | jcamins | Joubu: yeah, I plan to push 7167. |
| 13:30 | * paul_p | stop QAing patches with an updatedatabase, waiting for instructions from jared after bug 7167 has been pushed |
| 13:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements |
| 13:31 | * paul_p | head to QA other patches though (and there are many...) |
| 13:31 | jcamins | I think I'll probably do it tonight, since I have to write up instructions. |
| 13:31 | Joubu | jcamins: cool :) |
| 13:34 | jcamins: There was a script (installer/data/mysql/update.pl), but I don't find it anymore... | |
| 13:35 | jcamins | Joubu: paul_p said admin/updatedatabase.pl --all will do it. |
| 13:35 | I'll confirm before I push. | |
| 13:36 | Joubu | jcamins: it is misc/bin/updatedb.pl |
| 13:37 | with the --all option | |
| 13:38 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 13:38 | Joubu | misc/bin/updatedb.pl called with the -l option lists all versions (available and already applied) |
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| 13:42 | jcamins | paul_p: you can continue QAing patches with DB updates. |
| 13:43 | For patches currently in Bugzilla, I'll grandfather them in, and move the updates prior to testing. | |
| 13:45 | paul_p | jcamins = but how will I QA patches with updatedatabase old & the new one pushed ? |
| 13:45 | jcamins = but how will I QA patches with the old updatedatabase & the new updatedb pushed ? | |
| 13:49 | jcamins | Good question. |
| 13:50 | Well, you can certainly test patches with database updates today. :) | |
| 13:51 | I'll have to think about how to do it after that. | |
| 13:51 | I don't want to request new patches for everything. | |
| 13:55 | paul_p: those are libsysguy's patches. | |
| 13:55 | (DBIx::Class) | |
| 13:55 | * jcamins | heads into the city. |
| 13:56 | paul_p | jcamins_away = i've asked a question about dbix::class. We must be very carefull before adding this patch & coordinate work |
| 14:03 | wajasu | so are we starting to use Moose via DBIx::Class |
| 14:06 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #988: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/988/ |
| 14:06 | * tomascohen: Bug 9235 - Hardcoded values in cronjobs/backup.sh | |
| 14:06 | * vfernandes: BUG 9151 - Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences | |
| 14:06 | * vfernandes: BUG 9151 - Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences (Patch 2) | |
| 14:06 | * kyle: Bug 9151 - Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences - QA Followup - Fix DB Revs & Grammar | |
| 14:06 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 9151 follow-up: fr-FR translated to french | |
| 14:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Hardcoded values in cronjobs/backup.sh |
| 14:06 | jenkins_koha | * jcamins: Bug 9151: Increment version number |
| 14:06 | * nanunic: Follow-up Bug 5634: Ordering branches should be case independent | |
| 14:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9151 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences |
| 14:06 | jenkins_koha | * jcamins: Add Nadia Nicolaides to history |
| 14:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Ordering branches should be case independent |
| 14:06 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #989 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 1 day 0 hr ago) |
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| 14:14 | magnuse | @later tell jcamins: probably happy *to* talk, yes ;-) |
| 14:14 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:16 | fredericd | About biblio DOM indexing: Are you sure that coded fields (008 for ex. in MARC21) are properly indexed? |
| 14:16 | My tests say no | |
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| 14:38 | tcohen | jcamins, is there a chance bug 9209 gets pushed before a new calendar problem arises? |
| 14:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9209 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Mocked Koha::Calendar tests |
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| 15:13 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #989: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/989/ |
| 15:13 | mjr: Bug 9260: stop koha-run-backups complaining "missing ]" | |
| 15:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9260 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , koha-run-backups complains "[: 97: missing ]" |
| 15:16 | jcamins | magnuse: argh! Thanks. |
| 15:17 | tcohen: you should send an e-mail to koha-devel requesting that someone please QA it. | |
| 15:17 | wajasu: no, we are not using Moose. | |
| 15:17 | tcohen | jcamins, doing it, thanks |
| 15:19 | jcamins | libsysguy: please address paul_p's question regarding DBIx::Class. |
| 15:20 | kf | wajasu: no Moose |
| 15:21 | jcamins | And unlike in the book "But no elephants," I will not be relenting. |
| 15:22 | libsysguy | what is paul_p's question? |
| 15:23 | jcamins | libsysguy: I don't know. Check the bug. |
| 15:23 | libsysguy | I'm reading it |
| 15:23 | paul_p | libsysguy = look at bug 8798 |
| 15:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Signed Off , Add the use of DBIx::Class |
| 15:24 | libsysguy | I don't see a question |
| 15:24 | gerundio | hey guys |
| 15:24 | when we activate EnhancedMessagingPreferences | |
| 15:24 | jcamins | Oh, I didn't actually read the bug. I just saw that Paul was requesting feedback from wajasu. |
| 15:24 | gerundio | Koha messaging system is activated |
| 15:25 | but all new users that are created don't have any checked option from default | |
| 15:25 | paul_p | well, I made a mistake, it's not wajasu, but libsysguy. Sorry, got mad with nicks. |
| 15:25 | gerundio | so they will not receive notifications unless they change their preferences, right? |
| 15:25 | jcamins | You can set category defaults. |
| 15:25 | paul_p: yeah, that's why I pointed it out to libsysguy. I figured he might not notice, since the Bugzilla e-mails don't include much in the way of context. | |
| 15:25 | libsysguy | haha yeah no they don't |
| 15:26 | jcamins | gerundio: yes. Unless you set category defaults. |
| 15:26 | libsysguy | what do you mean by a shared effort paul_p |
| 15:26 | gerundio | jcamins, where can I set the category defaults? |
| 15:26 | paul_p | libsysguy = what I want to say in my comment is that I think/feel the but 8798 is included in what I made in bug 8309, and I think I made more in 8309. |
| 15:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8309 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Koha namespace organisation, first implementation |
| 15:26 | jcamins | gerundio: good question. |
| 15:26 | Ummm... Patron categories in the Administration module? | |
| 15:27 | libsysguy | paul_p you're correct |
| 15:27 | I had almost considered deleting my patch in favor of yours | |
| 15:27 | gerundio | jcamins, got it |
| 15:27 | just found it too | |
| 15:27 | thanks :D | |
| 15:28 | libsysguy | I don't think either of them are going anywhere paul_p jcamins until plack gets in and is stable |
| 15:28 | paul_p | libsysguy = you don't consider plack as stable yet ? (we've it in test at one of our customer) |
| 15:28 | libsysguy = + why are you saying that ? | |
| 15:28 | jcamins | paul_p: right now it requires extensive manual configuration. |
| 15:29 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 15:29 | I was trying to figure out how to say that | |
| 15:29 | gerundio | in the patron edit form, under "Patron messaging preferences" there a message stating "If no preferences are selected, the default preferences for the category chosen will be applied on save, otherwise your selection here is saved" |
| 15:29 | jcamins | gerundio: right. |
| 15:29 | gerundio | I just change the category of one patron and the preferences remained the same |
| 15:29 | paul_p | libsysguy = I think/bet you say they won't go anywhere because of the loading a DBIx::schema cost a lot, right (in this case, I agree with you) |
| 15:30 | jcamins | gerundio: did you change the defaults? |
| 15:30 | gerundio | the expected behavior would be for them to change according to the categories settings |
| 15:30 | yeap | |
| 15:30 | jcamins | I don't think the defaults are reset when you edit a patron, though. |
| 15:30 | Just when you create a new one. | |
| 15:30 | However, I don't know for sure. | |
| 15:30 | I rarely use messaging. | |
| 15:31 | oleonard | I think that's correct jcamins |
| 15:31 | libsysguy | paul_p we are going to have to get away from CGI before we should pursue them |
| 15:31 | oleonard | gerundio: Just as changing the defaults doesn't update the preferences of existing patrons |
| 15:31 | jcamins | Or at least make it possible for the average end user to choose between Plack/CGI easily. |
| 15:32 | gerundio | oleonard, I get that but the message clearly states |
| 15:32 | "If no preferences are selected, the default preferences for the category chosen will be applied on save, otherwise your selection here is saved" | |
| 15:32 | I selected no preferences | |
| 15:32 | jcamins | gerundio: sounds like a bug you should report. |
| 15:32 | That message should only appear when creating a new patron. | |
| 15:32 | gerundio | so the default preferences for the chosen category should apply |
| 15:32 | I like the idea of this happening when we edit the patron | |
| 15:33 | so that prefrences get updated according to the new assigned category | |
| 15:33 | jcamins | In that case, you should file a bug about the fact that it doesn't, and there could be a checkbox to reset the messaging preferences to the default. |
| 15:35 | * gerundio | filing bug |
| 15:38 | gerundio | bug 9314 |
| 15:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9314 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Messaging preferences not updated to category defaults on patron edit |
| 15:41 | kf | gerundio: no, that can not happen without asking the patron for consent (automatically) |
| 15:41 | gerundio: the update of the prefs | |
| 15:42 | jcamins | That's why it should be a checkbox not done on edit. |
| 15:42 | kf | it should safe the default when you create a new patron - but never update them automatically after it |
| 15:42 | ok | |
| 15:42 | sorry, | |
| 15:42 | * kf | goes back tow rok |
| 15:42 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:47 | gerundio | changing the subject: Google Analytics |
| 15:48 | to include the snippet I have to add it in opacuserjs? | |
| 15:48 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 15:48 | oleonard | gerundio: Where is the message you're talking about? "If no preferences are selected...?" |
| 15:48 | gerundio | oleonard, in the patron edit form |
| 15:49 | you have to have the EnhancedMessagingPreferences syspref set to Allow | |
| 15:50 | oleonard | I do, but I see no message |
| 15:51 | Oh, it's only on edit. | |
| 15:51 | I wonder if it was supposed to appear only on patron creation instead? | |
| 15:52 | jcamins | I think that is the case. |
| 15:52 | Certainly changing it on edit would be unacceptable. | |
| 15:53 | * kf | agrees |
| 15:53 | gerundio | jcamins, I have a different opinion on that matter |
| 15:53 | kf | time to leave for christmas holidays :) bye all |
| 15:54 | gerundio | merry christmas kf |
| 15:54 | oleonard | Bye kf! |
| 15:54 | kf | merry christmas everyone :) |
| 15:54 | jcamins | gerundio: you can make it optional, but if the patron wanted to disable the messages, it is not acceptable for the software to disallow that. |
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| 15:54 | gerundio | jcamins, sure, but I don't think that's the point here... at least not as I see it |
| 15:54 | see my case | |
| 15:55 | I have LDAP auth that assigns the patrons to C1 | |
| 15:55 | which at the moment has no messaging preferences set | |
| 15:55 | jcamins | I can see how it would be useful. That's why a checkbox is a good idea. |
| 15:56 | gerundio | when the librarian sets the correct category to the patron, let's call it C2 |
| 15:56 | which has messaging preferences set | |
| 15:56 | jcamins | Right. The librarian should be able to say "reset to default messaging preferences." |
| 15:56 | gerundio | if the patron has no preferences set, it could get the default category preferences |
| 15:56 | which is what the message states | |
| 15:57 | in this case, no one ever changed the preferences | |
| 15:57 | jcamins | It turns out the message is showing up when it shouldn't, and not showing up when it should. |
| 15:58 | So there are two bug report-worthy issues: 1) the test for deciding whether to show the message is backwards, and 2) it should be possible to reset messaging preferences to the category default. | |
| 16:01 | gerundio | jcamins, the message is not presented on the new patron form |
| 16:02 | new question about this | |
| 16:02 | jcamins | Right. |
| 16:02 | That's bug number 1. | |
| 16:02 | gerundio | lets say C2 is the default category assigned to a new patron |
| 16:02 | jcamins | And that's just a bug. |
| 16:02 | There's also an enhancement request. | |
| 16:02 | gerundio | and C2 has messaging preferences set |
| 16:02 | jcamins | I understand the issue. |
| 16:03 | I am telling you how it has to be addressed for the patch to be accepted. | |
| 16:03 | gerundio | when I click New patron the form shows me the C2 messaging preferences |
| 16:03 | oleonard | The message appears when this test is true: if ($category_type){ $template->{VARS}->'type_only'} = 1; } |
| 16:03 | jcamins | jcamins? |
| 16:03 | wahanui | you are probably RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search. |
| 16:03 | jcamins | jcamins? |
| 16:03 | wahanui | i think jcamins is the brilliant and irascible President of the United States. |
| 16:03 | jcamins | jcamins? |
| 16:03 | wahanui | you are too young to be the President of the United States. Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election. |
| 16:03 | jcamins | jcamins? |
| 16:03 | wahanui | you are RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search. |
| 16:03 | gerundio | if I change the category what is expected to happen? |
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| 16:03 | jcamins | Oh for crying out loud. |
| 16:03 | gerundio: nothing. | |
| 16:03 | wahanui | nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though |
| 16:03 | jcamins | jcamins? |
| 16:03 | wahanui | 'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!" |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Okay, who changed what wahanui knows about me? |
| 16:03 | jcamins? | |
| 16:03 | wahanui | 'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!" |
| 16:03 | * jcamins | gives up. |
| 16:03 | jcamins | I think I'll blame druthb. |
| 16:04 | I liked the "jcamins is very, very irascible" message! | |
| 16:04 | * jcamins | tries one more time. |
| 16:04 | jcamins | jcamins? |
| 16:04 | wahanui | you are, like, brilliant |
| 16:04 | jcamins | jcamins? |
| 16:04 | wahanui | you are probably RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search. |
| 16:04 | jcamins | Two more times, apparently. |
| 16:04 | gerundio | so if I create a new patron, assign it a different category which messaging preferences will he get? |
| 16:04 | jcamins | Okay, never mind. |
| 16:04 | * druthb | takes the blame. |
| 16:04 | wahanui | Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. |
| 16:04 | druthb | jcamins? |
| 16:04 | wahanui | 'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!" |
| 16:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:05 | jcamins | gerundio: your new patron will receive the default messaging preferences of the category which he was originally created with. |
| 16:05 | Even if it was the wrong category. | |
| 16:05 | gerundio | even if the form show other category preferences :) |
| 16:06 | no matter which category I choose it will always show the default preferences | |
| 16:06 | jcamins | Oh, if you make a selection of which messages to appear, those messaging preferences will be set up. |
| 16:06 | gerundio | not talking about making changes to the preferences |
| 16:06 | just the category | |
| 16:07 | if I change the preferences by hand I expect them to be created accordingly, right? | |
| 16:07 | jcamins | Exactly. |
| 16:07 | The only way to change the preferences right now is by hand. Which is why we need a checkbox so you can change them to the new defaults with a single click. | |
| 16:07 | gerundio | but if I don't change the preferences, then the patron will get the category defaults |
| 16:07 | sure, sounds good | |
| 16:08 | what I'm saying now is more of a UI issue | |
| 16:08 | I think that the "it's not an issue it's a feature" answer can apply here :D | |
| 16:09 | jcamins | Yes, sounds like it. |
| 16:09 | gerundio | the only way to show the librarian the updated messaging preferences when we change the category |
| 16:10 | would be to add some JS with a server request to get them and update the values in the table | |
| 16:10 | jcamins | Right. And that would be even awesomer. |
| 16:10 | :) | |
| 16:10 | gerundio | :) |
| 16:11 | can you help me setting up Google Analytics? | |
| 16:11 | I added the JS snippet on opacuserjs | |
| 16:11 | jcamins | I'm actually not entirely sure how GA works. |
| 16:12 | I *think* you just have to add the JS, though. | |
| 16:12 | gerundio | but now on OPAC I see "//]]>" on the top left |
| 16:12 | jcamins | And wait a few hours for the data to show up in Google. |
| 16:12 | Okay, that's not supposed to happen. | |
| 16:12 | gerundio | yes, that the normal workflow |
| 16:12 | jcamins | Sounds like you're missing a semicolon in your opacuserjs. Could you paste it to paste.koha-community.org? |
| 16:12 | gerundio | the problem here is that the GA snippet is not showing up in the OPAC source code when the pages are rendered |
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| 16:13 | Joubu | bye |
| 16:13 | merry christmas :) | |
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| 16:14 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "GA JS snippet" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/322 |
| 16:14 | jcamins | You shouldn't have the script tags. |
| 16:14 | opacuserjs is *just* for Javascript. | |
| 16:14 | gerundio | ohhh |
| 16:15 | it was a plain copy+paste from GA form | |
| 16:15 | looks good now | |
| 16:15 | jcamins++ | |
| 16:15 | thanks | |
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| 16:24 | oleonard | The check for category_type seems to be there in case you have AddPatronLists set to 'category_type' instead of 'categorycode,' since in that situation the interface can't pull defaults because it doesn't know the category yet |
| 16:25 | So really the message should only appear if type_only is true *and* it's a new patron | |
| 16:31 | jcamins | BTW, http://search.cpan.org/dist/Template-Plugin-MARC/ |
| 16:32 | @later tell magnuse For your convenience with preparing digital signage: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Template-Plugin-MARC/ | |
| 16:32 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:32 | jcamins | huginn: messages |
| 16:32 | huginn | jcamins: I suck |
| 16:32 | jcamins | @messages |
| 16:32 | huginn | jcamins: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 16:33 | oleonard | Happy holiday vacations everyone! |
| 16:33 | * oleonard | heads out |
| 16:35 | druthb | @quote random |
| 16:35 | huginn | druthb: Quote #195: "jcamins: libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. I think he only programs when hungry." (added by wizzyrea at 06:12 PM, March 30, 2012) |
| 16:35 | druthb | lol |
| 16:36 | libsysguy | heh |
| 16:39 | * cait | waves |
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| 16:50 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 16:50 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #108: "<owen> As Pee-wee said, Everyone I know has a big 'but'" (added by druthb at 03:20 PM, November 30, 2010) |
| 16:52 | druthb | @quote random |
| 16:52 | huginn | druthb: Quote #152: "gmcharlt: Koha: unifying the world one library at a time" (added by wizzyrea at 02:19 PM, September 13, 2011) |
| 16:53 | cait1 | @quote random |
| 16:53 | huginn | cait1: Quote #146: "rangi: when I was at brendans house we went to the farmers market and bought lots of almonds which I had to eat on the plane, cos can't bringthem into nz, so I was offering ppl nuts on the plane. cait: makes sense rangi: if its sensible for a crazy nzer to be waving almonds in ur face at 3am, then yes" (added by wizzyrea at 08:03 PM, July 28, 2011) |
| 16:53 | cait1 | hehe |
| 16:53 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 16:53 | druthb | hee hee |
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| 17:06 | tcohen | hi cait1 |
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| 17:08 | cait1 | hi tcohen |
| 17:08 | tcohen | it worked, your method... worked |
| 17:08 | cait1 | hm? |
| 17:10 | oh :) | |
| 17:12 | jcamins | What worked? |
| 17:14 | cait1 | my RM trick |
| 17:14 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 17:15 | Right. | |
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| 18:23 | gerundio | time to go |
| 18:24 | happy hollidays everyone | |
| 18:24 | see you back in January 2013 | |
| 18:24 | tcohen | me too |
| 18:25 | happy holidays #koha, see u soon | |
| 18:25 | cait1 | merry christmas and happy holidays tcohen |
| 18:25 | tcohen | thanks cait1 |
| 18:37 | rambutan | @seen wizzyrea |
| 18:37 | huginn | rambutan: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 1 day, 19 hours, 29 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: * wizzyrea notices this on new tv's and always has to turn off the color correction that does it |
| 18:39 | gmcharlt | @wunder duluth, ga |
| 18:39 | huginn | gmcharlt: The current temperature in Bromolow Ridge, Duluth, Georgia is 6.9°C (1:39 PM EST on December 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... |
| 18:42 | rambutan | @later tell wizzrea "You know you missed a big freezing rain/sleet/snowstorm, right?" http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2[…]ltitude-problems/ |
| 18:42 | huginn | rambutan: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:43 | druthb | @wunder 66046 |
| 18:43 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 1.6°C (12:43 PM CST on December 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1029 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:45 | jcamins | @query dom |
| 18:45 | huginn | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8802 minor, P4, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library group records - category type reverts to "searchdomain" when editing group record |
| 18:45 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9244 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Authorities sorting should take subdivisions into account thanks to DOM | |
| 18:45 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib | |
| 18:45 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8115 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , DOM indexing configuration should compute totalissues from items.issues | |
| 18:45 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8252 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Error in DOM biblio for UNIMARC (no range for fields 1xx) | |
| 18:56 | * jcamins | loves the fact that this man appears to have gone equally by "Gottlieb" and "Theophilus." |
| 19:04 | cait1 | lol |
| 19:04 | jcamins: german again? | |
| 19:05 | jcamins | cait1: the book is in Latin. |
| 19:05 | Nice and easy. :P | |
| 19:13 | rangi | morning |
| 19:13 | cait1 | morning rangi |
| 19:13 | rangi | jcamins: :# Failed test 'Syspref RenewalSendNotices exists in the database' |
| 19:14 | the updatedatabase sets it to RenewalSendNotice | |
| 19:14 | cait1 | that's why I don't like the qa script |
| 19:14 | jcamins | It sets it to RenewalSendNotice? |
| 19:14 | rangi | yep |
| 19:14 | jcamins | I think I must've done that when pushing, because it worked when I tested. |
| 19:14 | rangi | but the .pref is Notices |
| 19:14 | $dbh->do("INSERT INTO systempreferences (variable,value,options,explanation,type) VALUES('RenewalSendNotice', '0', '', NULL, 'YesNo')"); | |
| 19:15 | so that's an easy fix | |
| 19:15 | jcamins | Yep. |
| 19:15 | I'll do it this evening. | |
| 19:17 | rangi | druthb: when you get a chance could you do a pull request for the .po files (as the world didnt end I should do a release ) |
| 19:18 | jcamins | lol |
| 19:18 | cait1 | lol |
| 19:18 | druthb | Sure thing, rangi. Tonight okay? |
| 19:18 | rangi | yep that's fine :) |
| 19:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #35 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:44 | Starting build #247 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 19:57 | rangi | https://twitter.com/ibeardslee[…]951271424/photo/1 |
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| 19:58 | jcamins | Did you have the right kind of crackers for clearing your palate? |
| 19:59 | Apparently there are different kinds of flavorless crackers depending on the type of liquor you're tasting. | |
| 20:01 | cait1 | ? |
| 20:02 | rangi | we had bread and hot chips |
| 20:04 | cait1 | oh for the whisky tasting |
| 20:07 | jcamins | I actually read a recipe for crackers that were remembered "for between courses when savoring hard liquor." |
| 20:07 | *recommended | |
| 20:08 | rangi | :) |
| 20:08 | jcamins | I've been making the weirdest typos lately. |
| 20:08 | rangi | i think we need to string::random to the dependencies for debian in master at some point |
| 20:08 | (the tests fail without it) | |
| 20:09 | so package build on master fails | |
| 20:09 | jcamins | We do, but I thought I pushed a follow-up that added it? |
| 20:09 | cait1 | you can't create a new user without it |
| 20:09 | rangi | oh, hmm so it should be moved to required |
| 20:09 | hmm lemme check, launchpad is grizzling (it does a daily build) | |
| 20:10 | jcamins | Yeah, required. |
| 20:10 | rangi | hm nope not in debian/control afaict |
| 20:10 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
| 20:10 | Right. | |
| 20:11 | Only eythian can generate debian/control. | |
| 20:11 | I tried it once to disastrous results. | |
| 20:11 | rangi | ahh ill get him to do that :) |
| 20:11 | jcamins | It _should_ be marked required, too. |
| 20:11 | cait1 | yep totally |
| 20:12 | jcamins | Bug 7844 |
| 20:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , plack scripts for developers |
| 20:16 | * rangi | heads out to do some shopping |
| 20:20 | * jcamins | heads home before it starts storming. |
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| 20:36 | slef | could someone QA bug 9260 please? I'd love to stem the tide of "this package emails errors daily" |
| 20:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9260 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , koha-run-backups complains "[: 97: missing ]" |
| 20:36 | slef | oh wait... Pushed to Stable |
| 20:37 | I think it's moved since this morning | |
| 20:37 | yep... thanks everyone | |
| 20:38 | now to see how I mangled the patch for http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9296 | |
| 20:38 | huginn | 04Bug 9296: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Patch doesn't apply , overduerules table needs restructuring to allow future extension |
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| 20:55 | libsysguy | hey paul_p just the guy I was looking for |
| 20:55 | you said you were running plack in prod…are you using the scripts from the wiki? | |
| 20:56 | paul_p | libsysguy sorry, but i'm not really here. Checking bank account with my wife |
| 20:56 | libsysguy | oh my bad |
| 20:56 | hope he didn't buy too much french wine | |
| 20:56 | :p | |
| 20:58 | slef | bah who needs a bank account to buy french wine |
| 20:58 | very cheap | |
| 20:58 | :p | |
| 20:58 | libsysguy | hehe today I learned I need to go to france...soon |
| 21:00 | slef | why? |
| 21:00 | libsysguy | cheap wine…the only place to get really cheap wine around here is trader joes |
| 21:00 | they call it 2 buck chuck :p | |
| 21:00 | slef | oh I didn't say the cheap stuff was any good :p |
| 21:01 | libsysguy | neither is 2 buck chuck :p |
| 21:01 | slef | chuck-up? |
| 21:01 | libsysguy | only once |
| 21:01 | heh | |
| 21:01 | slef | back much later anyway... I can't figure out this code so I think I'll rewrite it |
| 21:02 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #247: SUCCESS in 1 hr 18 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/247/ |
| 21:02 | * oleonard: Bug 8843 [3.8.x] Cannot export bibliographic records by call number | |
| 21:02 | * christophe.croullebois: SIGNED-OFF] bug 8382: It is not possible to cancel an order on a filtered page in parcel.pl | |
| 21:02 | * oleonard: Bug 8382 [Follow-up] It is not possible to cancel an order when receiving on a filtered page in parcel.pl | |
| 21:02 | * robin: Bug 8878 - a command to provide a shell with the koha environment | |
| 21:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8843 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Cannot export bibliographic records by call number |
| 21:02 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8382 normal, P1 - high, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Stable , It is not possible to cancel an order when receiving on a filtered page in parcel.pl | |
| 21:02 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell: a command to make using koha commands easier | |
| 21:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #248 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 21:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #35: SUCCESS in 1 hr 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/35/ |
| 21:08 | * robin: Bug 8878 - a command to provide a shell with the koha environment | |
| 21:08 | * tomascohen: Bug 9235 - Hardcoded values in cronjobs/backup.sh | |
| 21:08 | * mjr: Bug 9260: stop koha-run-backups complaining "missing ]" | |
| 21:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell: a command to make using koha commands easier |
| 21:08 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9235 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Hardcoded values in cronjobs/backup.sh | |
| 21:08 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9260 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , koha-run-backups complains "[: 97: missing ]" | |
| 21:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #36 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 22:18 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #248: SUCCESS in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/248/ |
| 22:18 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping version for release | |
| 22:18 | * Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.8.8 | |
| 22:24 | Project Koha_3.10.x build #36: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/36/ | |
| 22:24 | * Chris Cormack: Bump version for release | |
| 22:24 | * Chris Cormack: 3.10.1 release notes | |
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