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| 01:36 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 01:36 | cait, you did not go to sleep last night? | |
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| 06:23 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 06:23 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Brooklyn, Wellington, New Zealand is 21.3°C (7:23 PM NZDT on December 19, 2012). Conditions: . Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:23 | rangi | its hot! |
| 06:23 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 06:23 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in East Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 8.5°C (10:16 PM PST on December 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 7 am PST Wednesday... |
| 06:23 | bag | cold here - major win for rangi there |
| 06:23 | rangi | heh |
| 06:24 | that must be about as cold as it gets? | |
| 06:31 | cait | oh hi bag :) |
| 06:31 | bag | heya cait |
| 06:32 | rangi: pretty close | |
| 06:32 | I think maybe down to 4 or 5 early in the morning | |
| 06:44 | cjh | it's very warm in the office, our corner was getting a nice dose of afternoon sun. |
| 06:45 | rangi | ah yeah the aircon will be off now |
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| 07:31 | alex_a_ | bonjour |
| 07:31 | rangi | hi alex_a_ |
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| 07:33 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:42 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:16 | kf | moring #koha |
| 08:16 | rangi | hi kf |
| 08:16 | kf | heya rangi |
| 08:17 | paul_p | morning #koha |
| 08:17 | kf | morning paul_p |
| 08:17 | rangi | hi paul_p |
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| 08:19 | kf | hi julian_m |
| 08:19 | julian_m | hi kf |
| 08:19 | hi #koha | |
| 08:20 | rangi | hi julian_m |
| 08:28 | bag | heya paul_p and julian_m |
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| 09:05 | kroditi | :paul_p good morning |
| 09:07 | paul_p | good morning kroditi ! |
| 09:07 | kroditi | paul_p: good morning, I cannot log in translation project, could it be because of the server change? |
| 09:08 | paul_p | kroditi it's strange. It should not, because afaik, there has been no move those days. The move was before I created your account. I try to log in, just a moment pls |
| 09:08 | kroditi | ok |
| 09:09 | paul_p | kroditi = no problem to login for me. Are you sure you don't make a mistake ? have you tried the "lost password" procedure ? |
| 09:09 | * paul_p | must leave for a meeting |
| 09:09 | kroditi | paul_p: no, i will now |
| 09:09 | paul_p: thank you | |
| 09:11 | paul_p: I am sure for my credentials, just wanted to make sure that all new accounts have been transferred to the new server before I tried to reset my password | |
| 09:11 | * paul_p | at a meeting |
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| 09:21 | kf | kroditi: the server has been moved another time, but you should be able to login I think - if there is a problem you can give me your username and I can take a look |
| 09:26 | kroditi | kf: hello, I cannot complete the procedure of password reset |
| 09:27 | kf | i can reset it for you - if you give me your user name |
| 09:27 | kroditi | kf: my username is kroditielidoc.gr |
| 09:32 | kf | I will take a look - give me a few minutes |
| 09:33 | kroditi | kf: thank you! |
| 09:33 | kf | hm |
| 09:34 | you acount is active | |
| 09:34 | user name is krodity | |
| 09:34 | sorry | |
| 09:34 | kroditi | |
| 09:34 | I don't see your password | |
| 09:34 | kroditi | kf: no domain at the end? |
| 09:34 | kf | no domain |
| 09:35 | kroditi | kf: let try once again with the old password |
| 09:36 | kf: it worked | |
| 09:37 | kf: I apologise for the inconvinience | |
| 09:38 | kf | no inconvenience |
| 09:38 | happy it works now | |
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| 09:41 | kroditi | kf: thank you! could you please advise me for something else? how can I download a .po file for greek system preferences? the file paul_p gave me has an encoding issue and the greek characters do not show! |
| 09:42 | kf | brb |
| 09:52 | when you are logged in | |
| 09:53 | kroditi: go to the review tab | |
| 09:53 | on top is a link to download a zip file | |
| 09:53 | but there seems to be a problem with permissions currently hm. | |
| 09:54 | @later tell druthb - there is a permission error when trying to download po files from pootle - could you take a look? I tried greek - review tab - download zip and po file | |
| 09:54 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:59 | kf | kroditi: sorry, I cannot fix the permission problem, we will have to wait for the translation manager druthb to take a look at the problem |
| 10:00 | kroditi | kf: I have two options download or download XLIFF. Is that due to my permissions? |
| 10:01 | kf | the zip link is on top f all |
| 10:01 | of the page | |
| 10:01 | you don't see it? | |
| 10:01 | download shoudl work too - to give you a single po file | |
| 10:01 | but I think the permission problem prevents it currently | |
| 10:05 | kroditi | kf: on top of the page All I can see is that there are 3 files, and all download links are under each po file. So, waiting for the permission issue to resolve and give another try |
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| 10:09 | kroditi | kf: that is odd. the preferences po file is the only file I can download with no permission errors, but greek characters appear "broken" again! |
| 10:09 | kf | hm |
| 10:09 | that is a bit weir | |
| 10:09 | d | |
| 10:09 | I am not sure | |
| 10:09 | druthb is in US so she won't be around for a bit longer | |
| 10:10 | kroditi | the odd thing is that on translate tab, and on my browser's tab the characters appear correctly |
| 10:11 | kf | hm could it be your editor? |
| 10:11 | which editor are you using to open the po file? | |
| 10:11 | kroditi | Poedit |
| 10:11 | kf | I know that the pref file is missing a encoding declartion or something, so it gives me trouble too |
| 10:11 | maybe try to tell poedit to use utf8 | |
| 10:11 | kroditi | I tried changing the encoding, but nothing changes |
| 10:12 | and when I reopen the editor, it is still under iso encoding | |
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| 10:13 | kroditi | so, maybe the best option is to translate preferences online! |
| 10:13 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 10:15 | kf | kroditi: the pref file and poedit are not working well - I think it's a problem with the file |
| 10:15 | maybe file a bug for it, it would be good to have it documented | |
| 10:16 | if pootle shows it correct, I would start translating there, note that for the pref, don't translate the #something part at the beginning of the string, you can take a look at german or french how it's done there | |
| 10:16 | hi dr | |
| 10:16 | hi drojf | |
| 10:16 | drojf | hi kf |
| 10:16 | as i said before, you can call me dr. drojf if you like ;) | |
| 10:16 | kroditi | kf: ok. thank you very much for the help! |
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| 10:22 | kf | drojf: I already give you a lot of karma, calling you dr goes too far |
| 10:26 | bag | well good night #koha |
| 10:26 | kf | good night bag |
| 10:30 | drojf | kf: aaaw |
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| 11:41 | vfernandes | hello |
| 12:00 | gerundio | oi vfernandes |
| 12:00 | guys, is it possible to revert an import? | |
| 12:05 | kf | gerundio: how did you do the import? |
| 12:05 | gerundio | is the "Matching rule applied" and "Action if matching record found" on the "Manage staged MARC records" tool working properly? |
| 12:05 | kf, using the Manage staged MARC records | |
| 12:05 | kf | yes, then you can revert it |
| 12:05 | gerundio | the problem is there are some missing barcode on the imported records |
| 12:05 | kf | hm |
| 12:05 | gerundio | which I now want to update |
| 12:05 | kf | did you check if those were duplicates? |
| 12:05 | and you can't update barcodes | |
| 12:06 | you will have to delete and reimport the items | |
| 12:06 | all the matching only applies to the bibliotgraphic records, not to items | |
| 12:06 | gerundio | I was now looking at the "Matching rule applied" and "Action if matching record found" settings on "Manage staged MARC records" tool |
| 12:06 | ohhhh | |
| 12:06 | thanks for the info | |
| 12:06 | kf | but the revert also removes the items :) |
| 12:06 | gerundio | how can I revert it then? |
| 12:07 | kf | there is a button on the manage staged marc records page |
| 12:08 | gerundio | I have 2 imports listed in my "Manage staged MARC records" table |
| 12:08 | only the 2nd one shows a "Clean" button on the "Action" collumn | |
| 12:08 | is that it? | |
| 12:08 | kf | don't click clean |
| 12:09 | click to see the records | |
| 12:09 | of the batch | |
| 12:09 | gerundio | ok |
| 12:09 | kf | and then there is the button below the first table It hink |
| 12:09 | gerundio | "Undo import into catalog", is that it? |
| 12:09 | kf | yep |
| 12:09 | I think if you clean you can't undo after | |
| 12:10 | gerundio | hopefully I have DB backups during this actions :D |
| 12:10 | thanks again kf | |
| 12:10 | kf | you are welcome |
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| 12:57 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 13:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #256 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 25 days ago) |
| 13:15 | Project Koha_Docs build #256: STILL FAILING in 1 min 32 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/256/ | |
| 13:15 | * nengard: update note about required email for registration | |
| 13:15 | * nengard: add patron self editing section | |
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| 13:18 | jcamins_away | @later tell oleonard Do I need to do something special to activate 9166? It doesn't seem to work on "My personal details." |
| 13:18 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:19 | jcamins | Wow. |
| 13:19 | That was amazing. | |
| 13:19 | It's my RM superpower! | |
| 13:19 | oleonard | And I just missed it? |
| 13:19 | kf | lol |
| 13:19 | jcamins | Good morning, oleonard. |
| 13:19 | kf | summoning oleonard? |
| 13:19 | I am jealous :) | |
| 13:19 | jcamins | Yes! |
| 13:20 | kf | and good morning to both of you :) |
| 13:20 | bug 9166 | |
| 13:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9166 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , OPAC needs configuration file for datepicker |
| 13:21 | jcamins | I've continued testing, and it turns out that it works on the place hold page. |
| 13:21 | kf | ah cool :) |
| 13:21 | I was about to suggest activating the holds future thing | |
| 13:21 | oleonard | But the datepicker doesn't work on opac-user.pl? |
| 13:21 | jcamins | Sort of. |
| 13:22 | Hm. | |
| 13:22 | The calendar icon vanished. | |
| 13:22 | It doesn't work on opac-memberentry.pl. | |
| 13:24 | I can't find a calendar on opac-user.pl. | |
| 13:25 | oleonard | On the holds tab, at the bottom, the "suspend all holds" control. |
| 13:26 | jcamins | Oh, I bet I need to already have a hold. |
| 13:26 | Yes. | |
| 13:26 | Hm. I'm not sure the language thing is working. | |
| 13:27 | I'll try updating the language again. | |
| 13:30 | kf | you wil probably have to check the po files |
| 13:30 | for the string to appear | |
| 13:31 | jcamins | Oh, good point. |
| 13:32 | It appears in the PO file, and is translated. | |
| 13:32 | * jcamins | thinks he isn't going to figure this out in the next five minutes. |
| 13:33 | jcamins | I will look at this again tonight or tomorrow when I'm at home. |
| 13:33 | You can do a follow-up for opac-memberentry.pl, so that the patch that already passed QA can be pushed (assuming I get it to work). | |
| 13:34 | kf | jcamins: does it say fuzzy? |
| 13:34 | #fuzzy or similar? | |
| 13:34 | jcamins | No. |
| 13:34 | kf | hmm |
| 13:34 | surprising | |
| 13:35 | tcohen | hi kf, jcamins |
| 13:35 | kf | hi tcohen |
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| 13:40 | oleonard | Oh, opac-memberentry.pl is the new patron self-registration page. That's why it wasn't covered by my patch. |
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| 13:52 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9104: country in CSV in overdue_notices.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]733072b3c0573fb35> / Bug 8125 Sip addess should include all address fields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ea8a1462fced14e68> / Bug 9287 - socialnetworks is enabled by default <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ha.git;a=commitdi |
| 13:54 | drojf | can somebody tell me how i get into a terminal in android? |
| 13:56 | or rather, do i get there at all if it's new/unrooted? | |
| 13:57 | gerundio | drojf, I think not |
| 13:57 | I have an unrooter Android phone | |
| 13:57 | unrooted ^^ | |
| 13:58 | http://forum.xda-developers.co[…]sing_the_Terminal | |
| 13:58 | check this article from XDA | |
| 13:59 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #984 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 13:59 | drojf | gerundio: thanks! |
| 13:59 | gerundio | drojf, https://play.google.com/store/[…]ps.sshdroid&hl=en, SSHDroid says Root is optional but not required to run this application. |
| 13:59 | so I guess I might be wrong | |
| 14:01 | drojf | ok i can't install anything anyway because there is no google account in there yet. (not my device) |
| 14:01 | but thanks | |
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| 14:17 | gerundio | drojf, can't help with that... Android device with no Google account assign is just a cool paperweight |
| 14:20 | drojf | gerundio: lol. yeah my boss is out for lunch. anyway i would have to root that thing to repair wifi access to eduroam. i don't think that is something i am going to do in my office hours (or my spare time)... |
| 14:21 | gerundio | "repair wifi access to eduroam"? |
| 14:21 | drojf | "why did you buy a non-free device?" is a valid answer too |
| 14:21 | http://code.google.com/p/andro[…]s/detail?id=34212 | |
| 14:21 | apparently that is a bug | |
| 14:22 | gerundio | hmm, I'm still using Gingerbread on my Xperia X10 |
| 14:23 | I can connect to eduroam just fine | |
| 14:23 | drojf | with user certificate? |
| 14:23 | gerundio | no certificate :) |
| 14:24 | drojf | doesn't work with username/password either on this device |
| 14:24 | it's 4.0.4. jelly bean i think (i don't know much about android...) | |
| 14:25 | gerundio | I have one for over 1 year now and I just have a regular non smartphone usage |
| 14:25 | no internet plan | |
| 14:26 | just use wifi connection to update the apps and play song pop | |
| 14:26 | not the average Android user for sure :) | |
| 14:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #257 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 25 days ago) |
| 14:29 | Project Koha_Docs build #257: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/257/ | |
| 14:29 | nengard: update patron categories admin | |
| 14:43 | druthb | o/ |
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| 15:05 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #984: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/984/ |
| 15:05 | * mirko: Bug 9287 - socialnetworks is enabled by default | |
| 15:05 | * colin.campbell: Bug 8125 Sip addess should include all address fields | |
| 15:05 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9104: country in CSV in overdue_notices.pl | |
| 15:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9287 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , socialnetworks is enabled by default |
| 15:05 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8125 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , SIP should send Zipcode with address | |
| 15:05 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9104 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , country in CSV in overdue_notices.pl | |
| 15:09 | kf | bye all |
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| 16:02 | gerundio | how can I add a record matching rule to use in the Stage MARC records for import tool? |
| 16:03 | found it: Home › Administration › Record matching rules › Add record matching rule | |
| 16:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:12 | gerundio | anyone experienced in creating record matching rules? |
| 16:12 | I want something as simple as matching records using the ISBN MARC field | |
| 16:29 | jcamins_away | gerundio: there's a sample rule for that. |
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| 16:32 | gerundio | jcamins, I'm looking at the example in http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/en/catadmin.html, section 4.7. Record Matching Rules |
| 16:34 | jcamins | Ignore the code and description. They have nothing to do with the actual rule. |
| 16:34 | Other than that, looks fine. | |
| 16:34 | That's for the control number, obviously. | |
| 16:35 | gerundio | I guess I just have to change the Tag and Subfields values |
| 16:35 | but right now my problem just grew bigger | |
| 16:36 | I was told that in our library we have multiple records for the same book | |
| 16:36 | instead of 1 record + multiple items | |
| 16:36 | so I guess there's no matching rule that can save me in this case | |
| 16:36 | jcamins | Also the index. |
| 16:36 | That's correct. | |
| 16:37 | gerundio | so now I'm thinking about reseting the catalog |
| 16:37 | and re-import everything | |
| 16:37 | is there any clean way to reset the catalog? | |
| 16:37 | jcamins | That's probably your best bet. |
| 16:38 | You can truncate biblio and the various reservoir tables. | |
| 16:39 | gerundio | would the Batch item deletion tool do the trick? |
| 16:39 | jcamins | No. |
| 16:39 | Not at all. | |
| 16:39 | It only deletes items. | |
| 16:39 | gerundio | I'm not a fan of using queries directly into MySQL :| |
| 16:40 | in this case there's no workaround, is that it? | |
| 16:40 | jcamins | No, there isn't, because it's generally considered a bad idea to make it possible to completely and irretrievably erase all your data. |
| 16:40 | Also, you'd need to truncate the various deleted_* tables. | |
| 16:41 | gerundio | I just found this on the Koha manual: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/resetkohadb.html |
| 16:41 | jcamins | That You can add auth_header, sessions, and zebraqueue too. |
| 16:41 | s/That // | |
| 16:42 | sessions and zebraqueue are automatically truncated every so often. | |
| 16:42 | (if you're using packages) | |
| 16:45 | gerundio | how about other tables like issues, reserves and notifies and old*? |
| 16:46 | jcamins | old*? |
| 16:46 | gerundio | I see old_reserves and old_issues tables in my DB |
| 16:46 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 16:46 | Ah. | |
| 16:46 | Have you already been circulating? | |
| 16:46 | If so, you'll need to delete all that. | |
| 16:46 | gerundio | just for testing purposes |
| 16:46 | :D | |
| 16:47 | the list goes on and on ehehehe | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | However, if you've already been circulating, records of any books that are out will be irretrievably lost. |
| 16:47 | druthb may have a list of which tables to *keep* prior to a final migration. | |
| 16:47 | gerundio | well, the number of records and items I'm importing is exactly the number of existing ones right now |
| 16:47 | so if I truncate the main tables and left these ones alone | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | I think those should mostly cascade. |
| 16:48 | gerundio | with *a lot of* luck they would just match |
| 16:48 | jcamins | Well... if the system works properly, they should be deleted. |
| 16:49 | druthb | https://www.gitorious.org/koha[…]lean_database.sql will tidy up for a migration, tossing bibs, items, all non-staff borrowers, all transactional data...leaving staff users and configuration stuff. |
| 16:49 | jcamins | Slick! |
| 16:49 | oleonard | druthb++ |
| 16:50 | gerundio | druthb++ |
| 16:50 | druthb | aw, thanks. |
| 16:50 | * druthb | blushes. |
| 16:50 | gerundio | druthb, thanks but that does a lot more than what I need :D |
| 16:51 | jcamins | gerundio: I think you're better off using it. |
| 16:51 | druthb | you can drop out any of the lines you *know* you wanna keep, gerundio. This is the script we use for getting ready for migrations. |
| 16:51 | jcamins | If your database gets out of sync, you'll be in a much worse situation. |
| 16:51 | gerundio | my problem here is that this is not a migration |
| 16:52 | it's like a big bump on the road | |
| 16:52 | jcamins | Right, but your options as I see them are A) keep the data you have, and fix things either using a very clever script or manually, or B) reload the data. |
| 16:52 | * druthb | reads her scrollback buffer. |
| 16:52 | gerundio | I'll have a careful look at the tables in that script and I'll just truncate the ones I want to reload the data into |
| 16:53 | thank you very much both of you for all the info | |
| 16:53 | druthb | It looks like the only problems you're having are biblio/items stuff.. have you loaded patrons? |
| 16:53 | jcamins | Any attempt at a middle road is going to greatly increase your chances of a situation where my advice is "start over from scratch." |
| 16:53 | druthb: patrons are loaded on the fly from LDAP. | |
| 16:55 | druthb | *Snort* Then you'll wanna run this script, as-is, gerundio. It Works. You're gonna need to back all the way up to biblios in any event, so I'd just do it. Look it over, if you feel it necessary, but I use this script a *lot* for exactly the situation you describe. |
| 16:55 | gerundio | druthb, I already have some patrons in the DB, loaded from LDAP like jcamins said |
| 16:56 | druthb | Hosing up the bib load is common as fleas on a stray dog, even for folks who do it all the time (58 migrations last year, I think). So wiping that without messing with configs is something I need to do *a lot*. Thus, this script. |
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| 16:56 | gerundio | well, the script mentions that the configurations and staff settings will be kept |
| 16:57 | in that case, running the script does look like the way to go | |
| 16:57 | druthb | Mhm. That's why I wrote it. |
| 16:58 | jcamins | Take a backup first, of course. |
| 16:58 | gerundio | druthb, doesn't user_permissions contains settings for staff? |
| 16:58 | lots of backing up for sure during the works :D | |
| 16:59 | druthb | let me check that repo against my working copy.. I think I see some things that may be different. sec. |
| 16:59 | gerundio | ok |
| 16:59 | druthb | Been a while since I pushed that repo. |
| 16:59 | gerundio | brb, heading over to talk to the IT team |
| 17:01 | druthb | sure enough, gerundio; I caught that problem some time back and had not pushed it. Refreshing the page will show you the updated script. |
| 17:06 | vfernandes | any problem with koha translate? |
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| 17:06 | jcamins | vfernandes: you tell us. :) |
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| 17:07 | vfernandes | too slow or not working at all |
| 17:07 | jcamins | Still? |
| 17:07 | vfernandes | started like 5 minutes ago |
| 17:07 | it was working super quickly but then puff... :/ | |
| 17:08 | thd-away` joined #koha | |
| 17:08 | jcamins | druthb can say for sure, but I just clicked around and it looks pretty fast. |
| 17:09 | druthb | whizzing along really good for me--no load on the server to speak of. |
| 17:09 | gerundio | vfernandes, looks good to me too |
| 17:10 | although I'm just click around on some links, not doing any updates | |
| 17:10 | druthb, refreshed the SQL script page | |
| 17:10 | vfernandes | damn :/ what's happening? :D |
| 17:10 | jcamins | vfernandes: route down between you and the server? |
| 17:11 | gerundio | TRUNCATE user_permissions; still remains there |
| 17:11 | vfernandes | I don't know... well looks like it's time for a coffee |
| 17:12 | portugues translations at 90%... looking good | |
| 17:12 | jcamins | vfernandes: :D |
| 17:12 | druthb | There are only two changes--removing that line, and adding TRUNCATE message_queue;... it updated for me, gerundio, but those are the diffs. |
| 17:16 | gerundio | druthb, ok, now I see the changes... must have been some cache or something |
| 17:16 | druthb | probably |
| 17:16 | gerundio | thanks a lot, sure will be using it tomorrow |
| 17:17 | vfernandes++ | |
| 17:17 | nice christmas gift for the Portuguese users | |
| 17:18 | vfernandes | thank god that next week i'm on vacations... i can't see more translations xD |
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| 17:26 | druthb | Getting the translation server has been a bit of mischief--but I appreciate soooooo much all the translators' hard work! |
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| 17:53 | vfernandes | Bug 9279 - simple bug awaiting to be signed off... |
| 17:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9279 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Problem with quick slip templates |
| 18:13 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:13 | wahanui | Morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast |
| 18:14 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 18:14 | wahanui | morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast |
| 18:17 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 18:17 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Brooklyn, Wellington, New Zealand is 14.4°C (7:17 AM NZDT on December 20, 2012). Conditions: . Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:17 | vfernandes | guys how I can add a variable to controll the usermenu.inc in the OPAC |
| 18:18 | jcamins | First question? |
| 18:18 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 18:18 | vfernandes | for example EnhancedMessagingPreferences controlls the appearing of my messaging page |
| 18:19 | jcamins | Right, but what is it you want to do, exactly? That changes how I might tell you to do things. |
| 18:20 | vfernandes | bug 9245 - the EnhancedMessagingPreferences enables the my messaging page, the goal is to have another preference to controll the page appearance in OPAC |
| 18:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9245 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Visual Bug under fines tab |
| 18:20 | vfernandes | bug 9254 sorry |
| 18:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9254 enhancement, P2, ---, vfernandes, NEW , Problem with EnhancedMessagingPreferences |
| 18:20 | jcamins | I understand. |
| 18:20 | vfernandes | i already added a system preference OPACMessagingPreference |
| 18:21 | jcamins | In that case, you'll want to add the variable to C4::Auth. |
| 18:21 | In the OPAC section. | |
| 18:21 | vfernandes | humm ok |
| 18:21 | then in usermenu.inc I have to change this line [% IF ( EnhancedMessagingPreferences ) %] | |
| 18:21 | jcamins | Right. |
| 18:22 | You can change the variable name to OPACEnhancedMessagingPreferences, for example. | |
| 18:22 | vfernandes | ok :) |
| 18:25 | but OPACEnhancedMessagingPreferences should work only if EnhancedMessagingPreferences is active right? | |
| 18:26 | jcamins | That's up to you. :) |
| 18:26 | vfernandes | [% IF ( EnhancedMessagingPreferences && OPACEnhancedMessagingPreferences) %] this is possible? |
| 18:27 | jcamins | Absolutely. |
| 18:27 | vfernandes | thats what I thought :) |
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| 18:42 | vfernandes | thanks jcamins... patch to bug 9254 submitted |
| 18:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9254 enhancement, P2, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Problem with EnhancedMessagingPreferences |
| 18:42 | jcamins | vfernandes++ |
| 18:42 | Oh, and I need to update the history. | |
| 18:43 | vfernandes | the patch commit guidelines is a good help to set the patch text... |
| 18:43 | jcamins | Good! |
| 18:43 | vfernandes | jcamins++ |
| 18:44 | i have to go... see you tomorrow | |
| 18:44 | bye | |
| 18:45 | cait | jcamins++ |
| 18:46 | jcamins | Okay, time to go. |
| 18:47 | cait | now I scared him away |
| 18:47 | ... | |
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| 18:52 | rangi | hi NateC |
| 18:54 | cait | hi NateC |
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| 19:03 | rangi | ohh another new person |
| 19:03 | Nadia Nicolaides | |
| 19:03 | bug 5634 | |
| 19:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Ordering branches should be case independent |
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| 19:07 | cait | cool :) |
| 19:07 | maybe you will get a special christmas present if that continues :) | |
| 19:09 | rangi | cait: can you fix permissions on translate? |
| 19:09 | http://translate.koha-community.org/en_NZ/ | |
| 19:09 | i get Permission Denied | |
| 19:09 | cait | when you try to do what? |
| 19:10 | rangi | go to that page |
| 19:10 | logged in | |
| 19:10 | cait | oh |
| 19:10 | rangi | i can see it if im not logged in |
| 19:10 | cait | werid |
| 19:10 | i can take a look, but I think druthb might be around too | |
| 19:10 | rangi | cool |
| 19:11 | * druthb | is around, sort of. |
| 19:11 | cait | rangi: what is your user name? |
| 19:11 | pootle has no user search... it's alphabetic | |
| 19:12 | rangi | chrisc |
| 19:12 | cait | right, I am looking in the rong play anyway |
| 19:13 | hm you only had one permission, try again :) | |
| 19:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #34 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:14 | rangi | wow |
| 19:14 | cait | hm? |
| 19:14 | rangi | i think this is perhaps the best patch from a new person ever |
| 19:14 | cait | oh, link? |
| 19:14 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=14200 |
| 19:14 | followed all the rules! | |
| 19:15 | cait | :) |
| 19:20 | rangi: does pootle work for you now? | |
| 19:21 | rangi | yep appears to |
| 19:21 | thanks | |
| 19:21 | cait | you are welcome :) |
| 19:21 | druthb | cait++ |
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| 19:37 | kathryn | hi #koha }:0) |
| 19:38 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
| 19:39 | kathryn | there's a bucket of cookies on my desk cait, and I'm having trouble getting them eaten! |
| 19:39 | cait | oh |
| 19:39 | kathryn | big problems today :( |
| 19:39 | cait | hehe |
| 19:39 | need help? :) | |
| 19:39 | kathryn | uh huh |
| 19:39 | * cait | takes some cookies yum. |
| 19:39 | cait | thx :) |
| 19:39 | kathryn | no thank you! |
| 19:41 | cait | are eythian and rangi not helping with the cookies? :) |
| 19:41 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | how is everybody |
| 19:42 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | oleonard: hi! |
| 19:42 | there was something I was going to ask you about and now I don't remember what it is | |
| 19:43 | s/is/was/ | |
| 19:44 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 19:55 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #34: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/34/ |
| 19:55 | * vfernandes: Bug 9144 - bulkmarcimport.pl - Problem identifying errors | |
| 19:55 | * mirko: Bug 9287 - socialnetworks is enabled by default | |
| 19:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9144 trivial, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Stable , bulkmarcimport.pl - Problem identifying errors |
| 19:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9287 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Stable , socialnetworks is enabled by default | |
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| 19:58 | BobB | good morning all |
| 19:58 | cait | hi BobB :) |
| 20:05 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?f[…]d&v=WfQ4t2E7iAU#! |
| 20:16 | BobB | I have a question. |
| 20:16 | I have a Koha catalogue to which we are adding another branch. | |
| 20:16 | I have a file of marc records that import just fine with no matching rule. | |
| 20:17 | I know there are exactly matching ISBNs in the file, so I have set up an ISBN matching rule. | |
| 20:17 | But I don't get any matches. :( | |
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| 20:18 | BobB | Here are my settings: |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | what version? |
| 20:19 | i ask because there was a version somewhere along the line | |
| 20:19 | where if you edited a rule, or used a new rule | |
| 20:19 | matching wouldn't work | |
| 20:20 | BobB | ahh, version 3.8.6 |
| 20:20 | Matching rule code: ISBN, desc 020$a, threshhold 1000 | |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | hmm probably not that recent though |
| 20:21 | BobB | matchpoint 1: index isbn, score 1001 |
| 20:22 | matchpoint components 020, a, 0, 0, ISBN | |
| 20:22 | cait | hm why 1001? |
| 20:22 | druthb | Should work, if zebra is otherwise healthy and returning results from an isbn search. |
| 20:22 | BobB | match check 1, source: 020, a , 0, 0, null |
| 20:23 | druthb | Try tossing out the match check, BobB...shouldn't need it. |
| 20:23 | BobB | target: 020, a, 0, 0, null |
| 20:23 | Oh is that right? | |
| 20:23 | druthb | yah. |
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| 20:23 | BobB | Just use the matching rule itself? |
| 20:23 | druthb | yes. |
| 20:24 | BobB | I think i did try that though. But I'll try it again. Thx. |
| 20:24 | druthb | I'm not entirely sure what the match checks are *supposed* to do, even--I've never seen a rule work that had one, though. Toss them out, and it works. QED. |
| 20:26 | BobB | Its takes half an hour to test each time ... set up a copy of the Koha, check the matching rule, import the file, wait for it to index .... |
| 20:26 | cait | druthb: maybe treshold = score would help too? |
| 20:26 | BobB | I'll have another go now. |
| 20:26 | cait | 1000 and 1001 seems a bit unusual to me, I think we have it on the same value for the 001 rule we use |
| 20:27 | druthb | Possibly, but it *shouldn't* have to be exactly equal...the threshold or greater is the way it's supposed to work. |
| 20:27 | BobB | I thought the manual said it had to add up to higher, but equal obviously works for you? |
| 20:28 | I haven't looked to see if there are spaces around any of the file entries, but I think they should be ignored anyway, if there? | |
| 20:29 | druthb | should be, yeah. |
| 20:29 | BobB | ok, thx, I'll try again |
| 20:29 | druthb | equal does work for me, BobB. |
| 20:29 | BobB | cool, thank you. |
| 20:30 | jcamins_away | BobB: when you say "exactly matching ISBNs," you mean that the ISBNs match records already in the database, not a file with duplicates, right? |
| 20:30 | BobB | Correct jcamins |
| 20:30 | jcamins_away | BobB: okay, I'll second druthb's recommendation. |
| 20:46 | janPasi | where did koha cronjobs dissappear? :o |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | ? |
| 20:46 | janPasi | shouldn't they be in /var/spool/cron/crontabs? |
| 20:47 | jcamins | janPasi: they're still there. |
| 20:47 | janPasi | no they aren't not in my system :O |
| 20:47 | jcamins | Ummm... why would they be there? |
| 20:47 | janPasi | althoug I'm sure they were there earlier? |
| 20:47 | what on earth is going on now... :D | |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | what os? |
| 20:47 | jcamins | I have no idea what would be in /var/spool/cron/crontabs. |
| 20:48 | I'd think it would be users' crontab files, if anything. | |
| 20:48 | janPasi | where are they then? |
| 20:48 | jcamins | In misc/cronjobs |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | in debian they're in /etc/cron.* |
| 20:48 | with packages | |
| 20:48 | jcamins | Wait, do you mean the crontab listing, or the actual scripts? |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | but in the tarball they're in misc/cronjobs |
| 20:49 | janPasi | oh, ok :D |
| 20:49 | jcamins | Suddenly that question makes much more sense. |
| 20:49 | janPasi | it must have been the previous slackware system that had them in /var/spool/cron |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | oh, yes probably |
| 20:49 | slackware! | |
| 20:49 | brave you are. | |
| 20:50 | janPasi | i love slackware, but debian is easier for koha |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | ah yep |
| 20:50 | janPasi | slackware would really be in need of dependency checking nowdays |
| 20:50 | it's getting too complex to manage without it | |
| 20:51 | (or complicated) | |
| 20:51 | BobB | Ok, I've copied the Koha instance and changed the matching rule. |
| 20:51 | The rule now is: | |
| 20:51 | Matching rule code: ISBN, desc 020$a, threshhold 1000 | |
| 20:51 | matchpoint 1: index isbn, score 1000 | |
| 20:51 | matchpoint components 020, a, 0, 0, ISBN | |
| 20:51 | No match checks. | |
| 20:51 | jcamins | There is always opportunity for people interested in packaging! |
| 20:51 | BobB | Importing the file. |
| 20:51 | cait | *fingers crossed* |
| 20:55 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Update history with our newest committer <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f30d3f4a34e08b3c> |
| 21:00 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #985 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:06 | BobB | hmmm: 0 records with at least one match in catalog per matching rule "ISBN" |
| 21:06 | jcamins | I'll test an ISBN matching rule. |
| 21:08 | BobB | thank you jcamins |
| 21:08 | jcamins | BobB: works perfectly for me. |
| 21:09 | Well... other than stage MARC import not being compatible with starman. | |
| 21:09 | BobB | I'll look further at the actual records, then. |
| 21:10 | jcamins | BobB: http://screencast.com/t/NbqLEdLjwZ |
| 21:10 | (my matching rule) | |
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| 21:11 | cait | jcamins++ :) |
| 21:12 | BobB | There you go: you have a field Record Type underneath the Threshhold field. I do not have that field! |
| 21:13 | jcamins | Oh, you're on 3.8? |
| 21:13 | BobB | What's the tool you used to post that screenshot? |
| 21:13 | Yes, 3.8.6 | |
| 21:14 | jcamins | Jing. |
| 21:14 | Okay, ignore that field. | |
| 21:14 | Prior to 3.10, importing authorities wasn't possible. | |
| 21:14 | BobB | Ah, OK. |
| 21:14 | Not the answer then. :( | |
| 21:15 | jcamins | Nope. :( |
| 21:15 | cait | hm |
| 21:15 | could it be a search problem? | |
| 21:15 | is search working? | |
| 21:15 | BobB | I will export a record and reimport it. Then it will indisputably be a match. :) |
| 21:16 | cait | because you the import is using zebra... so if zebresrv was not running or the records were not indexed yet, no matches |
| 21:16 | BobB | No cait, its the Staging utility that reports no matches. It hasn't got as far as zebra. |
| 21:17 | cait | i think the staging tool uses zebra indexes for finding the matching records |
| 21:17 | jcamins | BobB: right, staging the record matches using Zebra. |
| 21:17 | If your Zebra indexes aren't up-to-date, it will match anything. | |
| 21:17 | cait | so maybe try a search for an isbn you think should match |
| 21:18 | BobB | Wow, that could be it. I copied the koha but did not rebuild zebra afterwards. Two things to try now. :) |
| 21:18 | cait | good luck! |
| 21:19 | jcamins | Yes, you'll have to reindex Zebra without a doubt. :) |
| 21:33 | BobB | rebuilding zebra |
| 21:39 | eythian | The koha community is a major force in preventing the extinction of zebras with the amount we're rebuilding. |
| 21:40 | cait | hehe |
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| 21:43 | wizzyrea | @quote add eythian: The koha community is a major force in preventing the extinction of zebras with the amount we're rebuilding. |
| 21:43 | huginn | wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | @quote get 23 |
| 21:43 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | @quote add eythian: The koha community is a major force in preventing the extinction of zebras with the amount we're rebuilding. |
| 21:44 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #225 added. |
| 21:44 | wahanui | i already had it that way, wizzyrea. |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | the koha community? |
| 21:44 | wahanui | the koha community is an amazing thing |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | The koha community? |
| 21:44 | wahanui | rumour has it the koha community is an amazing thing |
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| 21:57 | BobB | zebra done. Importing again ... |
| 22:06 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #985: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/985/ |
| 22:06 | jcamins: Update history with our newest committer | |
| 22:06 | jcamins | Hooray! Success! |
| 22:09 | cait | yay :) |
| 22:09 | BobB: hope it's successful this time around | |
| 22:14 | BobB | Success! |
| 22:14 | 13948 records with at least one match in catalog per matching rule "ISBN" | |
| 22:15 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 22:15 | BobB | Two theological colleges merging, its not surprising there are a lot of matches. :) |
| 22:15 | So my take on it is this: I was importing into a copy of the Koha but had not rebuilt the index after making the copy: | |
| 22:16 | so the rule found nothing to match on. | |
| 22:16 | jcamins | Yup, that sounds right. |
| 22:16 | BobB | Zebra all along. |
| 22:17 | The koha community? | |
| 22:17 | wahanui | rumour has it the koha community is an amazing thing |
| 22:17 | BobB | wahanui: I agree! |
| 22:17 | wahanui | BobB: excuse me? |
| 22:17 | BobB | You're excused. |
| 22:18 | jcamins | wahanui: I agree is <reply> Hear hear! |
| 22:18 | wahanui | OK, jcamins. |
| 22:18 | jcamins | I agree! |
| 22:18 | I agree | |
| 22:18 | I agree? | |
| 22:18 | wahanui: \I agree is <reply> Hear hear! | |
| 22:18 | wahanui | i already had it that way, jcamins. |
| 22:18 | jcamins | wahanui: \I agree! is <reply> Hear hear! |
| 22:18 | wahanui | OK, jcamins. |
| 22:18 | jcamins | I agree! |
| 22:18 | cait | I agree! |
| 22:18 | lol | |
| 22:18 | eythian: I think wahanui needs more cookies | |
| 22:19 | * cjh | agree! |
| 22:19 | cait | and I am really gone now - bye all :) |
| 22:19 | BobB | lol |
| 22:19 | eythian | heh |
| 22:19 | BobB | thank you cait, good night! |
| 22:19 | eythian | i think it's to do with trigger lengths, but I'm not really sure. |
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| 22:19 | BobB | Thanks everyone, that was quite awesome |
| 22:19 | eythian | wahanui: literal I agree |
| 22:19 | wahanui | eythian: what? |
| 22:19 | cjh | wahanui: literal I agree! |
| 22:19 | wahanui | cjh: what? |
| 22:19 | eythian | wahanui: literal the koha community |
| 22:19 | wahanui | eythian: the koha community =is= an amazing thing |
| 22:20 | eythian | wahanui: literal \I agree |
| 22:20 | wahanui | eythian: i'm not following you... |
| 22:20 | eythian | wahanui: literal \I agree! |
| 22:20 | wahanui | eythian: i'm not following you... |
| 22:20 | cjh | heh |
| 22:20 | eythian | yeah, but that one didn't appear to save in a sensible form I think |
| 22:20 | jcamins | jcamins agree! |
| 22:20 | cjh | a disobedient bot |
| 22:20 | jcamins | wahanui: literal I agree |
| 22:20 | wahanui | jcamins: what? |
| 22:20 | jcamins | wahanui: literal jcamins agree |
| 22:20 | wahanui | jcamins: what? |
| 22:21 | cjh | wahanui: Agree! |
| 22:21 | wahanui | cjh: sorry... |
| 22:21 | cjh | wahanui: agree! |
| 22:21 | wahanui | cjh: i'm not following you... |
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| 22:32 | * mtompset | needs to figure out how to not hibernate. |
| 22:34 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 22:35 | tcohen | mtompset: vodka? |
| 22:35 | jcamins | mtompset: ^^ |
| 22:36 | mtompset | Windows 7 power options. :P |
| 22:39 | eythian | mtompset: apt-get remove windows ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop |
| 22:39 | or something like that | |
| 22:39 | mtompset | Sorry, linux games suck, and I hate dual boot. |
| 22:40 | jcamins | Games? |
| 22:40 | wahanui | Games are all local executables and not really part of the project per se, but they are all currently listed in a MySql db for various reasons. He has the scripts and some server-side HTML code to generate the interface. |
| 22:40 | jcamins | Where on earth did that come from? |
| 22:40 | cjh | wow |
| 22:40 | mtompset | Good question. |
| 22:42 | eythian | I thought I heard that steam had gone open beta on Linux now |
| 22:42 | * eythian | has too many games lined up to play as it is. Still stuck on Braid. |
| 22:42 | eythian | might revisit that over christmas. |
| 22:42 | cjh | braid is a great game |
| 22:43 | eythian | it really is |
| 22:43 | jcamins | http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]11-06-03#i_685812 |
| 22:43 | cjh | I dont think steam for linux is open yet, they are just sending out more invites. at least last time I checked. |
| 22:43 | eythian | I also contend the notion that it sucks, therefore mtompset is wrong :) |
| 22:43 | might be that | |
| 22:43 | cjh | rangi got his invite :( |
| 22:44 | eythian | http://tweakers.net/nieuws/861[…]in-open-beta.html <-- looks like it's opening anyway |
| 22:44 | * cjh | squints at screen |
| 22:45 | eythian | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/201[…]en-beta-next-week <-- try that one |
| 22:45 | * cjh | is getting worse at this reading thing |
| 22:45 | eythian | I just read the first link I got :) |
| 22:45 | cjh | \o/ |
| 22:45 | eythian | and tweakers.net is often interesting |
| 22:45 | cjh | the words seem interesting, cant speak for the content. |
| 22:46 | eythian | Maybe you're just having a stroke or something |
| 22:47 | cjh | I have been studying chemistry all morning, so ver plausible |
| 22:47 | eythian | that'd do it |
| 22:47 | cjh | s/very/very/ >.> |
| 22:47 | * jcamins | squints at the regexed string. |
| 22:47 | jcamins | Looks the same. |
| 22:48 | cjh | hahaha |
| 22:48 | jcamins | :P |
| 22:48 | * cjh | gives up |
| 22:48 | cjh | s#s/very/very/#s/ver/very/# |
| 22:49 | eythian | that could be simplified a lot |
| 22:49 | jcamins | lol |
| 22:49 | eythian | 's/y//' would have done it |
| 22:49 | jcamins | True. |
| 22:49 | No /g | |
| 22:49 | eythian | zactly |
| 22:49 | cjh | true |
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| 22:55 | mtompset | Did I mention I really dislike steam? :P |
| 22:55 | jcamins | mtompset: don't move to NYC. Most buildings are heated with it. |
| 22:55 | Yes, that's right. | |
| 22:55 | wahanui | I know. |
| 22:56 | jcamins | I've got... steeaaaammmm heat, I've got steeeaaammmm heat... |
| 22:56 | mtompset | Ha ha ha. |
| 22:56 | eythian | oh, this reminds me, new humble indie bundle of games out today |
| 22:56 | jcamins | In the past week or so I have managed to quote Pajama Game and A Little Night Music. |
| 22:57 | That's impressive. Those are two shows that rarely come up in conversation. | |
| 22:57 | In my experience. | |
| 23:02 | bag | jcamins: you see the hobbit yet? |
| 23:02 | jcamins | bag: nope. |
| 23:02 | How was it? | |
| 23:02 | bag | I'm going tonight |
| 23:02 | in 4 hours and 45 minutes ;) | |
| 23:02 | heh | |
| 23:02 | eythian | I'll tell you how it ends... |
| 23:03 | bag | running to the bathroom cause it's 3 hours long! |
| 23:03 | jcamins | lol |
| 23:03 | bag | I'll cheer when I see ByWater on the map :) heh |
| 23:04 | and get thrown out within 5 minutes of the mocvie starting | |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 23:04 | that part would be not so good. | |
| 23:04 | * eythian | saw it in what turns out to be among the worlds most advanced theatres, as it was super-upgraded for this movie |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 23:04 | bag | that's soo freaking cool |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | how did you find the extra special framerate |
| 23:04 | eythian | a bit odd to get used to, but once things get moving you forget all about it |
| 23:05 | bag | I'm going to a theater that has 48fps and 3d but not a massive big screen |
| 23:05 | wizzyrea | i read that it's actually a hardware problem with humans |
| 23:05 | that we can't actually process that much data. | |
| 23:05 | eythian | the world is >48fps |
| 23:05 | wizzyrea | tech has officially surpassed the human ability concieve of it |
| 23:05 | bag | really but we see in something close to 60fps or so |
| 23:05 | wizzyrea | ah no it isn't |
| 23:05 | ;) | |
| 23:05 | your brain can only process ~35 fps | |
| 23:06 | bag | ahhh |
| 23:06 | not my brain - maybe yours | |
| 23:06 | wizzyrea | then things get weird and you start getting dropped frames |
| 23:06 | bag | I'm rocking about 5fps |
| 23:06 | eythian | in that case, >35fps wouldn't matter. |
| 23:06 | wizzyrea | exactly! |
| 23:06 | * wizzyrea | will find the article |
| 23:06 | wizzyrea | it was really interesting |
| 23:06 | eythian | although, the brain isn't a digital device with a fixed clock cycle, so I'm not sure it's reasonable to make comparisons like that. |
| 23:07 | wizzyrea | well yes, that's a digital-ised comparison |
| 23:07 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I read an article about how the reason the framerate is fixed where it is is that it was an early technical limitation, and when they developed the technology for faster refresh, people thought it looked amateurish. |
| 23:07 | (because the silver screen wasn't high fps) | |
| 23:07 | wizzyrea | this is something else I think |
| 23:07 | besides that | |
| 23:07 | eythian | it does, the start of it looks like a made-for-tv BBC documentary with people from þe olden timeys. |
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| 23:08 | wizzyrea | (that may be true too) |
| 23:08 | * wizzyrea | notices this on new tv's and always has to turn off the color correction that does it |
| 23:08 | eythian | I'm not toally sure if it's the fps or the lighting that does that though. I'd need to compare it in 24fps to know |
| 23:12 | BobB | @seen mtj |
| 23:12 | huginn | BobB: mtj was last seen in #koha 6 days, 17 hours, 42 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <mtj> ooh, i felt that one -> http://www.geonet.org.nz/quake[…]aland/2012p938451 |
| 23:12 | BobB | hope it didn |
| 23:12 | 't kill him? | |
| 23:13 | Is mtj on christmas hollies already? | |
| 23:13 | mtompset | I saw it opening night 10pm in theatres. |
| 23:14 | It was pretty good. 3D was pretty lame for the most part though. :( | |
| 23:15 | jcamins | Hey, I saw a sign at a movie theatre that said that they showed movies in 3D, too. |
| 23:15 | Is that a new thing that's common? | |
| 23:15 | mtompset | It's a marketing gimmick for which they charge $1.50 more (or whatever) |
| 23:16 | jcamins | Given that movie tickets are approach $20, I generally avoid going to movies anyway. |
| 23:16 | mtompset | $20?! |
| 23:16 | bag | I love the 3D movies |
| 23:16 | mtompset | Avatar in 3D was good use of 3D. |
| 23:17 | Hobbit in 3D ... sucky use of 3D. | |
| 23:17 | bag | cause for years and years it never worked for me - I'm red/green color blind |
| 23:17 | but with the new polarized 3D techies I can see it and really enjoy it | |
| 23:17 | mtompset | Ah, so the newer 3D works for you? |
| 23:17 | Cool. | |
| 23:18 | jcamins | Yeah, I think it was $16/person last time we went to the cinema. |
| 23:18 | bag | yup Avatar was the first one that really ever worked for me - and really popped off the screen |
| 23:18 | jcamins: 12 bucks here | |
| 23:18 | mtompset | Also, some theatres are letting you choose your seat when you purchase the ticket. |
| 23:18 | jcamins | I remember paying $7/ticket. |
| 23:18 | mtompset | That costs extra too. |
| 23:18 | jcamins | Not here. |
| 23:19 | You get a crappy seat and still pay a fortune. | |
| 23:19 | bag | I remember $2 a ticket :P |
| 23:20 | jcamins | Oh, this theatre charges only $11. |
| 23:21 | bag | heh |
| 23:21 | jcamins | It's also ~3 miles away. |
| 23:22 | And no subway. | |
| 23:25 | drojf | oh. cinema. the place where you pay a lot of money to watch all these "'piracy' is bad, mkay" commercials, other commercials, get spy'd on with infrared deviced, pay tons of money for a drink and have to listen to strangers eating popcorn and chips for hours. i remember that. good old times. |
| 23:25 | * jcamins | doesn't like going to films. |
| 23:26 | tcohen_ | avatar sucked both in 2D and 3D :-P |
| 23:27 | jcamins | tcohen_: good, that means I don't have to feel bad about not having seen it. |
| 23:27 | drojf | i was going to say i did not visit a cinema the whole year but it's not true. i have seen a few greenlandic movies at a small film festival, that was pretty nice (w/o commercials, ok ticket prices and not too many people inside) |
| 23:27 | mtompset | I'm not talking plot, tcohen_. :P |
| 23:27 | jcamins | I know it's blue. |
| 23:27 | Or green. | |
| 23:27 | * jcamins | has trouble telling the difference between blue and green. |
| 23:28 | jcamins | But I definitely know the pictures of Avatar were all blue or green. |
| 23:28 | tcohen_ | heh |
| 23:29 | I hope we see some nice Miyazaki's film in 3D soon | |
| 23:29 | mtompset | My driving continues. Have a good day (24 hour period). |
| 23:30 | jcamins | Ooh! I've actually seen two of his films (on DVD)! |
| 23:30 | (this is exciting because whenever the conversation turns to film, I generally have absolutely no frame of reference... I'm never been a film buff) | |
| 23:30 | tcohen_ | Princess MOnonoke? |
| 23:31 | jcamins | Nope. Howl's Moving Castle and Spirited Away. |
| 23:31 | bag | I love going to the movies |
| 23:31 | I like the big screen | |
| 23:31 | my brother works in hollywood so maybe I got that from him | |
| 23:32 | tcohen_ | both really nice films, a bit sad the first |
| 23:32 | leaving, asado ahead byeeee #koha | |
| 23:44 | cjh | howl's moving castle is fantastic. |
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