IRC log for #koha, 2012-12-15

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00:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #980 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #978 23 hr ago)
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02:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #980: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/980/
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10:21 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:21 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 3.0°C (11:13 AM CET on December 15, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising).
10:22 drojf almost hot ;)
10:23 cait hehe
10:23 @wunder Konstanz
10:23 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 5.0°C (11:00 AM CET on December 15, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
10:27 drojf uh. summertime :)
10:31 cait yeah
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14:50 * wajasu working on auth linking logic
15:11 wajasu ok. after writing a script to generate a unique set of authority records from all the biblio headings, i ran link_bibs_to_authorities.pl to get them wired up(linked)
15:12 but i had some issues with old $9 links not being deleted, and matching not just quite right.
15:14 there is a routine check_valid_auth which looks up the auth record and compares the auth record heading to the heading in the biblio record heading.
15:16 but  when formatting the heading  from the auth record, and formatting the heading from the biblio record, we use two different similiar routines, which may choose different subfield tags.
15:19 C4:Heading::MARC21   bib_heading_fields   vs      C4::AuthoritesMarc::GetAuthorizedHeading      and it may non matches because chose subfield tags.
15:36 when we generate an auth record we clone the heading field from the biblio record to auth record, then later when we check_valid_auth to determine a match compare:
15:42 check_valid_auth: $field->as_string('abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz')  COMPAREDTO   GetAuthorizedHeading $field->as_string('abcdefghjklmnopqrstvxyz68');
15:44 check_valid_auth     vs    C4::AuthoritesMarc::GetAuthorizedHeading      is the comparison.
15:45 * wajasu ends thinking aloud
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16:51 cait1 eythian or drojf around?
16:51 jcamins_away: ?
16:52 jcamins_away Yes?
16:54 I lost my bonefolder.
16:55 drojf not really. still curious :)
16:55 jcamins_away: looked inside the cat?
16:56 jcamins_away drojf: lol
16:57 drojf cait1: ??
16:57 was that more like a general wakeup call to the channel?
16:57 cait1 sorry
16:57 I am looking at this blocker but
16:57 bug
16:57 and was wondering if someone could teach me how to build packages
16:58 but then I found the wiki page about "the easy way to do it" and I am fighting with debian now
16:58 drojf i did it the complicated way according to eythian. i have not tried the other
16:58 jcamins_away I think the "easy" wasy is more difficult, according to eythian
16:58 drojf yes the easy way is the complicated one, he said
16:58 * jcamins_away will help if/when he finds his bonefolder.
16:58 drojf works for me though. what is your problem with it?
16:59 cait1 just getting started
16:59 and my problem is stupid
16:59 how do you run something as root with debian?
17:00 wajasu sudo -u root :)
17:01 cait1 I am still doing it wrong
17:01 drojf this is the easier way according to eythian btw http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_Debian_Packages
17:01 what are you trying to do?
17:01 cait1 drojf: but he doesn#t tell you what to install there
17:01 at all
17:01 so I think I will stick to the other guide for now
17:01 drojf: install guest additions
17:01 in my virtual box I want to use for the packaging
17:02 drojf oh. what do you need those for?
17:02 cait1 it does better integration... I was curious
17:02 jcamins_away I don't think you need guest additions.
17:02 cait1 no I don't really need them
17:02 but I wanted them
17:02 and it's kidn of frustrating that I am too stupid to figure out the right command
17:02 drojf i think i did not install them because it did not work as the internet said it should
17:02 jcamins_away Why?
17:02 I mean, you're never going to be using X under pbuilder.
17:03 cait1 no
17:03 but I might be using it for something else
17:03 jcamins_away pbuilder?
17:03 wahanui hmmm... pbuilder is pretty cool
17:03 cait1 and I think in general knowing how 'sudo' works in debian would be a good thing
17:03 jcamins_away Agreed, but I think I don't understand what you're trying to do.
17:03 cait1 oh I do understan it
17:04 the packaging thing and ym attempt to install guest additions are totally unrelated
17:04 drojf if you are trying to do this http://virtualboxes.org/doc/in[…]itions-on-debian/
17:04 jcamins_away Ohhh.
17:04 drojf you might just do 'su' and become root
17:04 * jcamins_away found the bonefolder, by the way.
17:04 jcamins_away Use su - not su
17:04 wajasu be sure to create a big sized VM.  because i think when you build a package, a chroot based install of debian is created and things are compiled within that.
17:04 my bad
17:05 cait1 never mind
17:05 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
17:05 cait1 i figured it out
17:05 what do you need the bonefolder for?
17:05 drojf oh. yes. the standard 8gb were not enough in my vm (with koha installed also)
17:05 cait1 don#t say folding bones :)
17:05 drojf i made a 12gb for the packaging
17:05 jcamins_away Folding stationery.
17:06 cait1 hm I only got 8 or 10 I think
17:06 * cait1 checks
17:06 cait1 10
17:07 is this ok? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way
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17:08 jcamins_away That's how I do it.
17:08 drojf cait1: what do you mean by "ok"? i did it like that and it works
17:08 cait1 that's perfect hten
17:08 drojf if you do not install koha on the vm i suppose 10gb will be enough
17:08 there is one thing not in the wiki
17:09 cait1 hm so how do I test it if i don't install it..
17:09 guess i will figure it out one step at a time
17:09 jcamins Could someone please test updatedatabase under latest master?
17:09 cait1 oh right
17:09 i forgot about that
17:09 jcamins I just want to know if 3.11.000.008 runs.
17:09 cait1 drojf will do it for you
17:09 drojf i use one vm to build packages. to test i just spawn a copy of pure debian, try and throw it away afterwards
17:09 cait1 :P
17:09 drojf: hmm
17:10 I will ask you about that later i guess :)
17:10 drojf so i am sure there is no debris ob older installs
17:10 of
17:11 cait: you have to log into the pbuilder thing and add the koha repo into /etc/apt/sources.list. rangi told me how, mom
17:11 when you have installed the pbuild stuff, do 'sudo pbuilder --login --save-after-login', add the repo and do an apt-get update
17:12 jcamins: just run the updatedatabase.pl?
17:12 jcamins drojf: after pulling master, yes.
17:12 cait1 hm
17:12 i thought I would be buliding the packages from the repo?
17:13 jcamins Add the apt repo.
17:13 cait1 drojf: you know that you should add that to the wiki, right?
17:13 jcamins You'll be building packages from the git repo outside of pbuilder.
17:13 drojf cait1: i added it to mine :P
17:13 cait1 so the poor qam gets a fair chance ;)
17:14 jcamins: so are you saying I hsould do what drojf said or follow the guide?
17:14 jcamins cait1: you should do what drojf said.
17:14 cait1 thx for clarifying
17:14 jcamins I was trying to disambiguate "repo."
17:14 Sorry, I'm writing 22 holiday cards.
17:15 cait1 moderate
17:16 drojf Server information             Koha version: 3.11.00.008
17:16 seems like that worked
17:16 jcamins drojf: okay, could you please run `prove t/db_dependent/Koha_borrower_modifications.t`?
17:17 So far it has worked on every system other than jenkins.
17:18 drojf t/db_dependent/Koha_borrower_modifications.t .. ok
17:18 All tests successful.
17:18 Files=1, Tests=14,  1 wallclock secs ( 0.03 usr  0.02 sys +  0.90 cusr  0.08 csys =  1.03 CPU)
17:18 Result: PASS
17:18 jcamins Cool, thanks.
17:18 cait1 drojf++
17:18 are you doing the lightning talk?
17:19 drojf ha not really ;)
17:19 cait1 why not?
17:19 drojf because you are not coming :P
17:22 cait1 you don't need me to do that
17:23 * cait1 is waiting for the git clone now
17:23 cait1 drojf: can you at least add your line to the wiki page? :)
17:23 jcamins drojf wants it to be a shibboleth by which we can recognize regulars on #koha. :P
17:23 drojf lol
17:24 i was about to add the line
17:24 now i got distracted by irc ;)
17:26 i never read that page to the end. it does not even have git bz :)
17:26 cait1 waiting for the koha repo to be cloned
17:26 a 'git' was missing too :)
17:33 drojf done
17:37 cait1 thank yu
17:38 @karma drojf
17:38 huginn cait1: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 53 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 51.
17:38 cait1 hm
17:38 drojf++
17:41 I think you can stand one more wthout flying away or something
17:44 drojf :D
17:45 cait1 I will give you five more for the lightning talk? :D
17:45 drojf turns out you cannot creata a gpg key via ssh because you have to "use other windows" to create randomness
17:46 jcamins drojf: you can, but it's a challenge.
17:46 drojf how? i logged in another time but that doesn't help
17:47 i should have put some process running in the background before
17:48 jcamins There's rngd.
17:48 But I've never used it.
17:48 I don't remember how I did it... I did something with find.
17:49 But rngd looks a lot easier.
17:49 Maybe apt-get install rng-utils
17:49 drojf a ping in the background seems not to work ;)
17:50 jcamins It'll work eventually... it just might take a few years.
17:50 A gpg key requires a lot of entropy.
17:51 Actually, I should install rngd on my VM, probably.
17:51 drojf lol @ a few years
17:53 /etc/init.d/rng-tools: Cannot find a hardware RNG device to use.
17:54 that probably brings us back to the guest extensions ;)
17:54 jcamins Hrm.
17:55 drojf i could create it "here" and transfer. but that would not be any fun
17:55 jcamins I managed to create four GPG keys.
17:56 drojf anyway, sushi rice is cooled down. see you later
17:56 jcamins Ooh, random sushi generators!
17:56 drojf :)
18:00 cait1 drojf: I have no idea how this worked for you
18:00 it tells me wget: command not found
18:01 and something seems to be missing in that line too?
18:02 oh susi
18:02 ok.. good excuse to leave me alone in my misery
18:11 it looks like I am buliding packages now... keep fingers crossed everyone
18:12 * jcamins crosses his fingers.
18:14 jcamins I finished writing out the cards for the staff.
18:14 Just another 12 to go.
18:14 * jcamins grumbles.
18:17 cait1 oh it's dun
18:17 done
18:17 the staff?
18:17 wahanui the staff is too big and not finished yet
18:17 jcamins wahanui: exactly!
18:17 wahanui jcamins: huh?
18:17 cait1 :)
18:17 you never talk about all your employes :)
18:17 jcamins Except I finally finished writing the holiday cards.
18:17 cait1 employees
18:17 jcamins Building staff.
18:18 cait1 oh
18:18 arg
18:19 thre is nothing in the directory it should be
18:19 hm ok, not so bad, the files are not where they shoudl be, but I foud them
18:19 jcamins Yeah, I had problems with that too.
18:19 The files never go where they're supposed to.
18:19 cait1 hm
18:19 jcamins So my script just moves them from wherever they end up to where I want them.
18:19 cait1 but I only have 4 files
18:19 and none ending in .deb
18:20 jcamins Do a find.
18:20 cait1 um howß
18:20 jcamins What are the four files?
18:20 cait1 .dsc .build .changes and tar.gz
18:20 jcamins find / -name "koha-common*.deb"
18:20 Hm.
18:21 cait1 koha_3.10.1~git+201212191036.7f98eeb6.tar.gz for example
18:21 find doesn't find
18:22 jcamins Hm.
18:22 Check if there were any errors in the pbuilder output.
18:22 cait1 nothing I can see
18:23 Aptitude coulnd't satisfy the build dependencies
18:23 jcamins Ah-ha.
18:23 cait1 E: pbuilder-satisfyfdepends failed.
18:23 jcamins Is it complaining about jhash?
18:23 cait1 yeah, found it on second glance
18:23 hm don't see any about that
18:23 jcamins Oh.
18:23 What does it say it couldn't find?
18:24 cait1 it doesn't look unhappy apart from that
18:24 le me figure out how to share with this with you
18:26 maybe it's the package you guessed, but it was on the top
18:26 http://paste.koha-community.org/316
18:27 jcamins Okay, I suggest opening debian/control and deleting the libchi-perl and libchi-driver-memcached-perl lines.
18:27 Once we figure out how we're going to be making them optional anyway.
18:28 cait1 hm
18:28 ok
18:28 in the git repo?
18:28 jcamins Yup.
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18:36 * cait1 tries again
18:46 drojf ah yes i had problems there too. i installed the jhash somethingsomething from debian, not from the koha repo, then it worked
18:47 cait1 drojf: hm didn't change anything about that
18:48 will see if it works this time
18:48 it's sitll running
18:50 drojf i suppose deleting the dependencies jcamins mentioned solves that too
18:50 cait1 we will see :)
18:50 jcamins drojf: yeah, since it's not necessary, I see no reason to install it.
18:51 drojf the files end up in the right directory when everything works out
18:51 cait1 it's done
18:51 drojf if there is a problem, i have no .deb and the rest isin the wring folder
18:51 wrong
18:51 cait1 still no .deb file
18:51 :(
18:51 drojf are you trying to build master?
18:51 cait1 yeah
18:51 master plus the patch on a branch I created
18:52 drojf master+9052 did not work for me. i did not try just master
18:52 3.10+somepatch and 3.8.7+somnepatch worked though
18:53 cait1 so how did you test 9052?
18:53 bug 9052
18:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
18:53 cait1 oh
18:53 drojf i tried 3.10+9052 as i stated in the comment
18:53 cait1 right now i get you
18:53 will try that
18:56 jcamins Why doesn't anyone have calling cards anymore?
18:56 Calling cards are underappreciated.
18:57 One of my clients uses cut up calling cards as dividers in her card catalog.
18:57 drojf lol
18:57 cait1 calling cards?
18:57 wahanui calling cards are underappreciated.
18:57 jcamins Yeah, like...
18:57 * cait1 starts the bulid again
18:58 jcamins http://artofmanliness.com/2008[…]the-calling-card/
19:00 drojf people add each other to their phones and facebook accounts on the spot, that might be a reason ;)
19:01 jcamins drojf: lousy excuse.
19:01 * drojf tries to build a master package just to see if that works
19:01 cait1 it seems they are not to be used by womn
19:02 jcamins cait1: not men's calling cards, no.
19:02 cait1 ts.
19:02 jcamins Women generally had their own calling cards.
19:03 drojf jcamins: i'd prefer calling cards over facebook adds anytime. also, i don't have a facebook account
19:04 jcamins drojf: so you have a calling card you use instead?
19:04 drojf no, but i should have :)
19:05 i can put my public gpg key on it for people to type it into their computers at home
19:05 can't build a package from master
19:06 cait1 drojf: I wondered if we should worry about htat
19:06 maybe we cn just leave it to the RM
19:06 drojf i kind of asked in the comment but eythian only mentioned the dependency
19:07 jcamins The major concern is 3.10.
19:07 If the patch fixes it with 3.10, that's the important thing.
19:08 drojf that's what i thought. nobody is going to install a master package. and the problem is not from the patch
19:08 dpkg-source: info: extracting koha in koha-master+20121215195341.310098fd
19:08 jcamins Exactly.
19:08 drojf E: pbuilder: Failed extracting the source
19:08 jcamins It seems to have something to do with the branch name, actually... if I rename the branch something else, it works.
19:08 drojf ah really?
19:08 that's weird
19:08 jcamins At least, that's what I found when I tried it the other day.
19:09 Very.
19:09 cait1 maybe I should try that when it fails this time
19:09 jcamins cait1: if it worked on 3.10.x, you can just pass it. :)
19:09 cait1 still waiting for it
19:09 it#s running tests right now
19:09 drojf working 3.10 packages undr the christmas tree \o/
19:10 cait1 it#s still... doing things
19:10 *yawn*
19:10 jcamins :)
19:11 cait1 and I ate all the espresso chocolate
19:11 jcamins lol
19:11 One note for neighbors.
19:12 drojf looks like that is working great, with the yawning and all
19:12 jcamins I've decided to write three now.
19:13 I figure at least three of the families here will *not* keep kosher.
19:17 * jcamins does not have a kosher kitchen.
19:18 cait1 how are the cards and kosher kitchens connected?
19:18 jcamins The cards come with cookies.
19:18 * cait1 doesn't have a kosher kitchen
19:18 jcamins Actually, I suppose I could give cards to everyone, just not necessarily cookies.
19:18 Right.
19:18 Good point.
19:19 Five more cards, coming right up.
19:20 cait1 it looks like it's working this time
19:20 it seems to create a .deb file
19:21 23 mins now
19:22 :(
19:22 done... but no deb file
19:23 o hno
19:23 there are
19:23 they are in the right folder this time!
19:23 jcamins Yay!
19:23 * cait1 squees in delight
19:24 cait1 ook
19:24 i can copy the koha-common.deb into anothr vm and use that to install koha?
19:24 drojf is there some dependency entry missing for String/Random.pm? i had to manually install that on my dev machine and it throws an error not when i try to build master
19:25 jcamins drojf: it was just added.
19:25 drojf: it seemed to me to be reported correctly.
19:25 drojf cait1: yes. just do dpkg -i your.deb and then apt-get -f install for the dependencies
19:26 jcamins: as pbuilder gets the other dependencies automatically i assume something is not right
19:26 jcamins drojf: hmm...
19:26 drojf: I think eythian has to regenerate the control file.
19:27 Actually, I think there's a patch for master that's been languishing for months.
19:27 cait1 do I ned any of the other files?
19:27 jcamins cait1: nope, just the koha-common.deb.
19:28 drojf cait1: you get them automatically when you do apt-get -f install afterwards. and you have to install mysql-server too
19:28 cait1 how do I get them automatically?
19:28 jcamins `sudo apt-get -f install`
19:29 Three of seven.
19:30 I'm hungry.
19:30 Proably because I've been writing holiday cards for...
19:30 three hours.
19:30 drojf eat a bunch of nonkosher cookies with each card
19:30 cait1 ew
19:30 hehe
19:31 jcamins lol
19:31 I think I'll eat the cookies, and save the card.
19:31 cait1 coookiees....
19:33 jcamins It'd be nice if I wrote faster.
19:33 But not nice enough that I'm ever going to take the time to learn.
19:45 cait1 you could outsource the writing
19:46 I would do it for cookies :)
19:46 and you would get a fancy continental hand on your cards :P
19:47 jcamins lol
19:47 Not a bad idea.
19:47 Continental handwriting is very much a la mode. :)
19:47 cait1 yay :)
19:51 drojf lol. i built the master package as 3.33.33 and that worked
19:51 (from branch 'master'
19:51 )
19:52 jcamins drojf: interesting. So it's the version that's the problem?
19:54 drojf seems like it is. i try it as master again now to make sure it was not the missing dependency (i added that to the control file). i doubt it has anything to do with it because it we did not have it when i tried it the last time
19:54 jcamins That's... weird.
19:54 * cait1 lost her koha-common.deb file
19:54 cait1 *sigh*
19:54 I tried moving it out of the vm and now it vanished
19:55 oh good
19:55 I found it
19:55 jcamins Oh no!
19:55 Oh, yay!
20:01 Backporting bug 7067 to 3.8.x.
20:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , allow patron self registration via the opac
20:01 jcamins Nasty business, that.
20:02 It's a rather complex feature.
20:02 cait1 jcamins: why are you doing it?
20:02 jcamins I'm not.
20:02 Someone just reported on the bug that it didn't work.
20:03 cait1 well no wonder it doesn't
20:03 jcamins I responded that it wasn't intended for backporting, and if you need help with backporting that should be taken to the list and not discussed on bugzilla.
20:04 cait1 ah i see
20:04 people are weird
20:06 jcamins Indeed they are.
20:06 Two to go.
20:07 cait1 h
20:07 m
20:07 it didn't work :(
20:07 or maybe...
20:08 yeah.... rtfm
20:08 * cait1 goes to read
20:08 drojf backporting… "i want the latest features, but please let me use my old version"
20:08 what is not working cait1?
20:09 cait1 it's ok
20:09 I did the apt-get install -f now
20:09 hi druthb :)
20:09 druthb Hi, cait. :)
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20:17 cait1 bah :(
20:17 can't install it
20:17 missing dependencies
20:17 jcamins Which ones?
20:17 wahanui Which ones are those?
20:18 cait1 http://paste.koha-community.org/317
20:18 * druthb pokes wahanui with her pointy stick.
20:18 jcamins Ah, you need to add debian.koha-community.org to your sources.list.
20:18 druthb wahanui: druthb?
20:18 wahanui rumour has it druthb is our translation manager for 3.12
20:18 druthb well, yes.
20:18 druthb?
20:18 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
20:18 druthb cait?
20:18 wahanui i think cait is qam, not your secretary
20:18 druthb lulz
20:18 jcamins
20:18 ?
20:18 jcamons?
20:18 * druthb can't type; she has the dumb.
20:18 druthb jcamins?
20:18 wahanui i guess jcamins is brilliant
20:18 druthb well, yes.
20:19 jcamins lol
20:19 druthb wahanui: jcamins?
20:19 wahanui jcamins is probably brilliant
20:19 cait1 jcamins: I figured it out a split second after posting the link :)
20:19 * druthb whacks wahanui with the stick.
20:19 cait1 too late still.. but maybe progress
20:19 druthb wahanui: jcamins?
20:19 wahanui i think jcamins is very, very irascible.
20:19 druthb :P
20:20 wahanui: druthb?
20:20 wahanui you are our translation manager for 3.12
20:20 druthb wahanui: dpavlin?
20:20 wahanui Taking over the world is trivial for this one...
20:20 druthb lulz
20:22 * druthb thinks.
20:22 druthb wahanui: kmkale?
20:22 wahanui I miss kmkale!
20:22 druthb awr!
20:25 cait1 jcamins: help?
20:25 wahanui help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help.
20:25 cait1 added the repo to the sources list
20:25 but still got the same
20:25 * druthb whacks wahanui with the stick again.
20:25 druthb Shup, wahanui.
20:25 wahanui druthb: huh?
20:25 jcamins cait1: did you run apt-get update?
20:25 cait1 no
20:25 of corse not
20:25 * cait1 has the dumb too
20:26 * druthb hugs cait1, watching wahanui carefully for more silliness.
20:26 jcamins anybody?
20:26 wahanui i think anybody is here
20:26 jcamins forget anybody
20:26 wahanui jcamins: I forgot anybody
20:27 druthb oh, lordy.  I need to refill my box of clues.  Forgot that I need to make up some sort of treat for the English Country dance party tomorrow.  urg.
20:27 hm.
20:28 cait1 jcamins: it looks like it worked this time
20:28 jcamins anybody is <reply> The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/
20:28 anybody?
20:28 wahanui The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/
20:28 drojf cait1: i did a workshop where i explained how that works. you should have come :P
20:28 cait1 drojf: meany
20:28 can you help me now?
20:29 for the sake of having working packages?
20:29 drojf where are you now?
20:29 druthb drojf:  Don't be mean to cait.    You're hopelessly outnumbered.
20:30 cait1 druthb: I am asking him to help me because I think jcamins might start yellin gat me soon :)
20:30 drojf: all dependencies hopefully installed
20:30 packages?
20:30 wahanui it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
20:30 drojf that is good
20:30 then install mysql-server
20:31 druthb jcamins only yells if you send in bad patches.  That seems to be the only thing that makes him irascible.
20:31 jcamins That and bugzilla abuse.
20:31 druthb there.  see, cait1?  You're safe.
20:32 cait1 drojf: i am one step ahead - that's done too
20:32 jcamins How do I address the envelopes for my neighbors?
20:32 I don't know their names.
20:33 druthb "The crazy cat lady in apartment 6b?"
20:33 jcamins lol
20:33 * druthb is the crazy cat lady in unit 414.
20:34 druthb hm.
20:34 wahanui:  druthb?
20:34 wahanui you are our translation manager for 3.12
20:59 drojf jcamins: having one ssh-session build a koha debian package and another waiting for gpg key generation worked
21:00 jcamins Yay!
21:05 cait1 jcamins: I am missing the little cart picture
21:05 not sure why, I will take another look tomorrow
21:05 jcamins I don't think that has anything to do with the patch.
21:06 But it's worth checking by installing 3.10 without the patch.
21:06 * druthb yawns and stretches.
21:06 druthb gonna go get prettied up for dancing tonight.  :)   see y'all soon.
21:07 cait1 jcamins: maybe, but not tonight
21:07 drojf cait1: i have the cart in 3.10
21:07 do you want a screenshot of 3.10 without 9052?
21:07 cait1 drojf: without patch?
21:07 drojf yes
21:07 cait1 yes please
21:07 jcamins drojf: what about with patch?
21:07 cait1 overall it looks good, I am missing the gradient in the blue background and the little icons
21:07 drojf its with 9287 but that should not matter for the screenshot
21:07 cait1 and looking at it in iceweasel
21:07 installing chromium now
21:08 drojf jcamins: will do later. i already repurposed the vm
21:08 i'll install it again
21:08 cait1 oh
21:08 ok
21:08 it's an iceweasel proble
21:08 m
21:08 jcamins Yay!
21:08 cait1 it's all good in chromium
21:09 jcamins So A) the patch works and B) you have a bug to file. :P
21:09 cait1 drojf: without patch it should be obviously broken, right?
21:09 jcamins Exciting news! :)
21:09 drojf it works fine in iceweasel here…
21:09 cait1 jcamins: iceweasel seems to be based on a  very old version of firefox
21:09 jcamins cait1: oh yes. All the fonts will be wrong.
21:09 cait1 so probably not worth thetrouble
21:10 cool
21:10 going to pass qa
21:10 well that was hard.
21:10 jcamins But you did it!
21:10 And it will be easier next time.
21:10 * jcamins goes to find out which doorman is on duty.
21:12 cait1 yeah, that looks pretty horrible
21:12 drojf cait1: i only use iceweasel and it works finde
21:12 fine
21:12 maybe try ctrl+f5 to reload?
21:12 cait1 did
21:12 drojf weird
21:13 is firebug reporting missing files? for your cart?
21:13 cait1 what's your version?
21:13 3.5.16
21:14 I can't instal firebug
21:15 drojf 3.5.16?? of iceaweasel?
21:15 cait1 yeah
21:15 that's pretty old I guess?
21:15 drojf 10.0.11
21:15 cait1 see
21:15 but why do I have such an ol version
21:15 drojf what os?
21:15 debian?
21:15 wahanui debian is probably what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that
21:15 cait1 i tink it doesn't like the sprites
21:15 the css is there
21:15 drojf squeeze-backports might help
21:16 cait1 debian yes
21:16 drojf yes that may certainly be the problem then
21:16 cait1 so i think it can be ignored
21:16 drojf alright then :)
21:17 debian squeeze?
21:17 wahanui debian squeeze is recommended for koha?
21:17 drojf you might want to try adding
21:17 deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
21:17 deb-src http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
21:17 i guess that is where the newer iceweasel comes from
21:17 cait1 going to shut down this vm now :) but i will keep it in mind
21:20 drojf @later tell jcamins trying to build a package for version 'fisch' fails, '1fisch' builds 3.8.0. something is really fishy about that build script
21:20 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
21:21 drojf @later tell jcamins or rather, it names the package 3.8.0. i have not installed it to see what it actually is, i suppose it is master
21:21 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
21:21 cait1 jcamins_away: it's done - not it's your turn
21:21 drojf++ :)
21:22 drojf cait1++
21:22 working 3.10 \o/
21:22 cait1 *blush*
21:22 cait @karma cait1
21:22 huginn cait: Karma for "cait1" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.
21:22 cait hehe
21:22 drojf heh
21:23 write an irc script that calls @karma cait1 and does cait1--, cait++ until karma of cait1 == 0 ;)
21:24 or fix huginn to connect nicks
21:26 ah, right, i got my gpg key now, so i can finish the repo business :)
21:27 cait preparing for the lightning talk? :)
21:44 jcamins_away Two down, twenty to go.
22:05 And I just divided 6 more plates.
22:12 drojf drojf, apt repository owner.
22:12 jcamins_away Yay!
22:12 drojf it's amazing what all i can do with that 2€ webspace lol
22:12 jcamins So, I'm going to have to make more raspberry shortbread bars.
22:12 drojf: that's really weird.
22:13 Given how tasty they are, I think that's a recipe to copy into my cookbook.
22:14 drojf don't be shy, name a koha version after them
22:26 jcamins "I am pleased to announce that Koha preview 3.11.raspberry shortbread bars has been released."
22:29 drojf \o/
22:37 cait lol
22:47 jcamins I'm going to run out of three varieties of cookies.
22:56 drojf cait: i think eythian wants you to do a tarball install too :P
22:56 cait git worked
22:57 he is being mean
23:00 drojf i don't even remember how to do a tarball installation
23:00 cait shouldn't the dev at least think that it works?
23:00 :P
23:00 jcamins drojf: just choose "standard" when running Makefile.PL
23:01 drojf it's the tarball installation's turn to be broken now anyway
23:03 cait jcamins: do you want me to pull back my passed qa?
23:07 thd-away` joined #koha
23:08 jcamins Nah.
23:08 * cait is relieved
23:14 drojf reading the whole ubuntu/tarball wiki entry would take longer than installing and configuring with packages
23:14 jcamins Yes.
23:15 The author ignored my suggestion that we not add more bulk to the parts that people were not getting confused about.
23:22 * drojf goes to bed
23:22 drojf good night
23:23 cait night
23:23 jcamins cait: drojf going to bed before you?!?
23:26 lol
23:26 ... and yet drojf is still logged in.
23:28 drojf i'll stay logged in in case i might be sleep-signoffing or something
23:31 jcamins lol

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