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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:54 | LaLuz joined #koha | |
| 00:54 | LaLuz | hi |
| 00:54 | wahanui | hello, LaLuz |
| 00:54 | LaLuz | i am trying to install koha on my mac locally |
| 00:56 | wahanui, hi | |
| 00:56 | wahanui | hola, LaLuz |
| 00:56 | LaLuz | wahanui, are you a bot |
| 00:56 | wahanui | OK, LaLuz. |
| 00:56 | jcamins | LaLuz: wahanui is, yes. |
| 00:56 | LaLuz | ok |
| 00:56 | jcamins | LaLuz: I have never heard of anyone installing Koha on OSX. |
| 00:57 | I recommend using Debian or Ubuntu in a VirtualBox VM. | |
| 00:57 | LaLuz | according to the readme its possible |
| 00:57 | jcamins | Really? |
| 00:57 | LaLuz | read the read me |
| 00:57 | or the INSTALL | |
| 00:57 | wahanui | the install is done yet |
| 00:57 | jcamins | Well, no one has done it in three years. |
| 00:57 | LaLuz | so i am going to be the first |
| 00:57 | jcamins | I think so. :) |
| 00:58 | Well- I suppose there's a slight chance it's so easy that people have done it without encountering a single problem. | |
| 00:58 | But that seems unlikely. | |
| 00:59 | What version of Koha are you installing? | |
| 01:00 | LaLuz | git |
| 01:00 | jcamins | So the latest master, 3.9 (soon to be 3.10)? |
| 01:00 | LaLuz | yah |
| 01:01 | i just cloned it 20 minutes ago | |
| 01:01 | jcamins | Good... I was concerned you might be trying to install Koha 2.0. |
| 01:02 | LaLuz | are you a dev |
| 01:02 | jcamins | Yes. I'm the Release Manager for 3.12. |
| 01:03 | I see no mention of Macs in the INSTALL or README files. | |
| 01:04 | (if you're comfortable doing development on a Mac I would suppose it'd probably be possible to compile everything from source, but I certainly wouldn't know how to do it) | |
| 01:05 | LaLuz | and I quote Koha runs on many Un*x style systems, including a variety of Linux distributions and Mac OS X |
| 01:06 | jcamins | Where did you clone the repository from? |
| 01:06 | LaLuz | https://github.com/liblime/Lib[…]blob/4_12/INSTALL |
| 01:06 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 01:06 | There's your problem. | |
| 01:06 | That's not Koha. | |
| 01:06 | That's LibLime's proprietary fork. | |
| 01:07 | LaLuz | so where do i find koha |
| 01:07 | jcamins | I highly doubt it works on Macs, either, and there's no support for it. |
| 01:07 | koha-community.org | |
| 01:07 | wahanui | i think koha-community.org is actually updated and right |
| 01:07 | jcamins | wahanui: thanks... |
| 01:07 | wahanui | my pleasure jcamins |
| 01:07 | jcamins | You can clone from git.koha-community.org |
| 01:07 | LaLuz | i was testing both builds of evergreen and koha |
| 01:08 | jcamins | LibLime's proprietary fork is much less actively developed than Koha. |
| 01:08 | LaLuz | give me the git link |
| 01:08 | jcamins | You'll have a much more fair comparison between open source Koha and Evergreen, not to mention some hope of free help from this channel. :) |
| 01:09 | git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git | |
| 01:09 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=summary <-- gitweb | |
| 01:09 | LaLuz | cloniong now |
| 01:10 | how does koha work in a multi branch system | |
| 01:11 | jcamins | The way you would expect, I think. Each library can have separate circ rules, you can transfer books between branches, etc. |
| 01:12 | LaLuz | i know u are a koha dev |
| 01:12 | but how does it compare to evergreen if you dont mind me asking | |
| 01:12 | jcamins | I prefer Koha. |
| 01:12 | LaLuz | evergreen was a bitch and a have to setup |
| 01:12 | jcamins | For two reasons: |
| 01:12 | LaLuz | excuse my language |
| 01:12 | wahanui | LaLuz: runaway cat on system. |
| 01:13 | jcamins | 1) installing Evergreen made me want to kill myself. |
| 01:13 | 2) searches can get painfully slow | |
| 01:13 | LaLuz | yah |
| 01:13 | if you make 1 small typo somewhere you are screwed | |
| 01:13 | and you have to start the server from scratch | |
| 01:14 | jcamins | Due to the database, not their search syntax. I'm actually in the process of porting the Evergreen QueryParser to Koha. |
| 01:14 | LaLuz | all the libraries here uses koha |
| 01:14 | jcamins | Where are you located? |
| 01:14 | LaLuz | el salvador |
| 01:15 | well not all | |
| 01:15 | jcamins | Oh, another reason I like Koha better: the community is larger, and more geographically diverse. |
| 01:15 | LaLuz | some |
| 01:15 | jcamins | Which means when you have a question at an odd time you have a reasonable chance of someone being around to answer it. |
| 01:16 | LaLuz | odd imes |
| 01:16 | are my specially | |
| 01:16 | jcamins | Mine too, as you probably gathered from the fact that it's Friday night and I was around to answer your question. |
| 01:17 | LaLuz | yah |
| 01:17 | since i moved out here | |
| 01:17 | time does not make sense to me anymore | |
| 01:19 | they want me to intergrate all the branches | |
| 01:20 | jcamins | How many are there? |
| 01:20 | LaLuz | so far we have 10 |
| 01:20 | but we are goignt to get 13 more | |
| 01:20 | not including the government library which soon i will get access too | |
| 01:20 | jcamins | What ILS are they using now? |
| 01:21 | LaLuz | apparently koha |
| 01:21 | but it came to a shock to me that they told me that koha was not free software | |
| 01:22 | jcamins | _Koha_ is free software. |
| 01:22 | "LibLime Koha" is not. | |
| 01:22 | LaLuz | i know which means someone is charging them a hefty fine |
| 01:22 | *fee | |
| 01:23 | jcamins | Well, if they want support, that does cost money. |
| 01:23 | My company provides hosting and support for Koha, and we're not cheap. | |
| 01:23 | LaLuz | whats your company |
| 01:23 | jcamins | C & P Bibliography Services. |
| 01:24 | LaLuz | im going to get a vps for koha |
| 01:24 | right now | |
| 01:24 | wahanui | right now is testing just somebody seeing if it works? |
| 01:24 | jcamins | That's the easiest thing to do. |
| 01:24 | LaLuz | it would take me 20 minute to get the sever brb |
| 01:28 | i found a really good vps deal | |
| 01:29 | jcamins | Oh, that's another thing I like about Koha compared to Evergreen: I can run a decent-sized Koha installation with 1GB of RAM. |
| 01:29 | LaLuz | evergreen requires minimum 2gbn |
| 01:30 | some people are running production servers with 128 | |
| 01:30 | jcamins | Exactly. |
| 01:30 | LaLuz | in third world countries they never even heard of 128 |
| 01:30 | jcamins | The more RAM you give Koha the better, of course, but it's not absolutely mandatory to have 2GB for just a few thousand records. |
| 01:32 | LaLuz | what about if you are getting somewhere in the half million |
| 01:33 | jcamins | If you're seeing significant usage, I'd want two 8GB servers: one for MySQL, one for Apache. |
| 01:34 | Well, I'd always *want* 192GB of RAM, but I wouldn't really have a use for it. I just think it'd be cool. ;) | |
| 01:34 | LaLuz | well when i take control over the central library system here for the country |
| 01:34 | can you believe they are still using pen and paper | |
| 01:35 | jcamins | Yikes! |
| 01:35 | LaLuz | and the old cards |
| 01:35 | yah computer systems do not exist around here much | |
| 01:36 | has anyone hit 256gb of ram | |
| 01:36 | jcamins | With Koha? |
| 01:37 | Not that I know of. | |
| 01:37 | LaLuz | i know people are building clusters with 1tb |
| 01:37 | jcamins | There are fairly large consortia using 32GB RAM, total. |
| 01:37 | LaLuz | just becaus they want to convert a movine 10 minutes |
| 01:37 | *seconds | |
| 01:37 | i sent a email to the hosting company | |
| 01:38 | hopefully i can get my same setup | |
| 01:42 | i have yet to see there setup | |
| 01:42 | is there a way to convert liblime to koha | |
| 01:42 | jcamins | Basically you just have to do a migration, the same as you would from any other ILS. |
| 01:43 | A friend of mine who works at ByWater Solutions has done dozens. | |
| 01:45 | LaLuz | sorry if i asking 1000 million questions |
| 01:47 | jcamins | No problem. We like curious people on #koha. :) |
| 01:49 | LaLuz | just waiting for a response |
| 01:49 | from the hosting company | |
| 02:04 | This is going no where | |
| 02:04 | im going tobed | |
| 02:05 | jcamins | Have a good night. |
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| 08:19 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 08:19 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 08:19 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 12:50 | mascha | hi there, just installed koha 3.8 can I switch off the field 942 subfield c? |
| 12:51 | I mean there is a mandatory field can I uncheck it? | |
| 12:54 | jcamins_away | mascha: you can edit your framework to not make it mandatory. |
| 13:01 | mascha | thx, got a search result with z39.50 and want to put it in the database but there is Koha [default] item type to be set ???? |
| 13:02 | no idea what it could be | |
| 13:11 | jcamins_away | You can set it to whatever you like. |
| 13:11 | You have to configure your item types. | |
| 13:22 | mascha | mmmmhhhh... it works. But what means OSt in Marc-field 003? |
| 13:24 | oh, oh... it's a long way to become a librarian | |
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| 13:30 | francharb | hi |
| 13:44 | WaylonR joined #koha | |
| 13:51 | jcamins_away | francharb: shouldn't you be off today? |
| 13:51 | francharb | jcamins_away, I should but I have things to be done quickly so... |
| 13:51 | here I am | |
| 13:52 | :) | |
| 13:52 | what about you jcamins_away ? | |
| 13:52 | what's your excuse? | |
| 13:52 | your nick says "away" | |
| 13:52 | ;) | |
| 13:54 | jcamins | francharb: my excuse is that I always work on weekends. |
| 13:54 | francharb | :) |
| 14:06 | * magnuse | waves |
| 14:11 | francharb | 0/ magnuse |
| 14:13 | magnuse | hiya francharb |
| 14:27 | LaLuz joined #koha | |
| 14:27 | LaLuz | hi |
| 14:27 | wahanui | bonjour, LaLuz |
| 14:37 | LaLuz | what are the best practices fro someone from git |
| 14:37 | *installing | |
| 14:41 | jcamins | git? |
| 14:41 | wahanui | git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 14:41 | jcamins | ^^ I believe you'll find instructions on that page. |
| 14:42 | The overview is: clone repo, install dependencies, run through installer choosing "dev" mode, run make. | |
| 14:43 | And, of course, don't use a git install in production. | |
| 14:48 | LaLuz | for a debain setup |
| 14:48 | should i just use the prebuilt package | |
| 14:50 | fudm joined #koha | |
| 14:50 | fudm | hi guys |
| 14:50 | jcamins | I would recommend that, yes. |
| 14:50 | fudm | my Z39:59 search is not responding |
| 14:51 | LaLuz | apt-get install koha |
| 14:51 | wahanui | hmmm... apt-get install koha is PDC |
| 14:51 | fudm | what do think is the problm |
| 14:52 | jcamins | LaLuz: apt-get install koha-common |
| 14:52 | fudm: you would have to give us a lot more information than that. | |
| 14:52 | fudm | k |
| 14:52 | jcamins | Based on what you've told me, I am going to guess randomly it's a firewall issue. |
| 14:52 | fudm | k |
| 14:52 | tnx i think that is it | |
| 14:53 | cos it some of the time | |
| 14:53 | respond som of the time | |
| 14:54 | @jcamins u bn so helpful koha is up and running in my school now tnx man! | |
| 14:55 | huginn | fudm: downloading the Perl source |
| 14:55 | fudm | k |
| 15:22 | LaLuz | koha in in maintenece mode |
| 15:24 | Kabii | hey |
| 15:26 | jcamins | Kabii: did you go through the web installer? |
| 15:26 | Kabii | no |
| 15:26 | jcamins | You need to. |
| 15:26 | Kabii | how do i access it |
| 15:26 | jcamins | Access it via the intranet. |
| 15:27 | packages? | |
| 15:27 | wahanui | i heard packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 15:27 | jcamins | ^^ that page has the best instructions |
| 15:28 | plack? | |
| 15:28 | wahanui | Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. |
| 15:28 | jcamins | (that's for me not you) |
| 16:11 | francharb | see ya tomorrow |
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| 16:57 | * cait | waves |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Hello. |
| 17:41 | cait | hi jcamins |
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