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00:21 | eythian | wahanui: kathryn is on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.[…]s720/ROSS9901.JPG |
00:21 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
00:22 | kathryn | wahanui eythian is a pest |
00:22 | wahanui | ...but eythian is a good influence or located somewhere.... |
00:22 | kathryn | no he's not |
00:22 | well not today. | |
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00:34 | wizzyrea | lol kathryn |
00:34 | kathryn | oh wizzyrea....next time it will be you |
00:35 | wizzyrea | I am sure it will be |
00:38 | * cait | waves to kathryn and wizzyrea :) |
00:38 | * wizzyrea | sings the magic cait greeting song |
00:38 | cait | oh? |
00:38 | wizzyrea | i don't know how it goes but it's pretty and melodic. |
00:38 | * kathryn | waves back and bobs along |
00:38 | cait | lol |
00:38 | ok :) | |
00:38 | kathryn | I means sways |
00:39 | * wizzyrea | wonders why cait isn't in bed. |
00:39 | wizzyrea | @excuse |
00:39 | huginn | wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
00:39 | wizzyrea | excuse? |
00:39 | cait | excuse? |
00:39 | wahanui | wizzyrea: kernel panic: write-only-memory (/dev/wom0) capacity exceeded. |
00:39 | cait: divide-by-zero error | |
00:39 | cait | see :) |
00:39 | wizzyrea | sems logical |
00:39 | cait | and it's still vacation + a holiday today in germany |
00:40 | wizzyrea | ohhhh |
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00:42 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
00:42 | I was wondering if anyone might know if there is a way to auto-magically generate the LDR records in a MARC file. | |
00:43 | eythian | surely you jest :) |
00:43 | not in a meaningful way, it requires semantic information | |
00:43 | the record size is about the only bit that can be. | |
00:44 | unless you mean in the Koha cataloguing interface, where I think it just happens when you click, doesn't it? | |
00:46 | wizzyrea | it does |
00:46 | i'm not sure, however, that its entirely accurate - how could it be you haven't specified anything about the item yet? | |
00:47 | i think it gives every item the same LDR | |
00:47 | rangi | its not even slightly accurate |
00:47 | eythian | that's what I'd expect |
00:47 | wizzyrea | whether that's right or not |
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00:47 | rangi | you use the dropdown thingy |
00:47 | if you want an accurate one | |
00:47 | wizzyrea | "thingy" must be a technical term |
00:48 | eythian | wahanui: status |
00:48 | wahanui | Since Wed Sep 26 23:44:47 2012, there have been 1396 modifications and 396 questions. I have been awake for 36 days, 1 hour, 3 minutes, 24 seconds this session, and currently reference 22881 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
00:53 | wizzyrea | oh my! |
00:54 | mtompset | I have data in SFM format, which is pretty easy to map to MARC, but there's no LDR record to map. So, can I import it without an LDR record? |
00:55 | I mean field... ARG, I keep messing up records and fields with respect to MARC files. | |
00:57 | eythian | oh, just grab the LDR from a stereotypical record and slap it in. |
00:58 | mtompset | Koha doesn't validate the LDR field? |
00:59 | MARC?\ | |
00:59 | MARC? | |
00:59 | wahanui | The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here. |
01:08 | eythian | https://twitter.com/adzebill/s[…]656305664/photo/1 |
01:08 | mtompset: validate against what? | |
01:09 | mtompset | Against validate value ranges for each position? |
01:09 | Against valid value ranges for each position? | |
01:10 | eythian | well, there's documented values, but aside from the size part, there's probably an excuse for having anything |
01:11 | mtompset | true enough. |
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05:56 | * Oak | waves |
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05:59 | Oak | wizzyrea, you live in US right? |
05:59 | wizzyrea | oak - not at the moment... why for? |
05:59 | Oak | ah okay. just wondering if nengard is okay. |
06:00 | wizzyrea | oh yes, she's fine and well - I think they were supposed to get power back tonight |
06:00 | Oak | oh good |
06:01 | Brooke said we should worry about Nicole not her. | |
06:02 | i did not even know about the whole thing... as I don't watch tv, and well, don't read newspaper either. bad habit i know. | |
06:06 | mtompset | I think I saw nengard on yesterday. |
06:07 | greetings, Oak and wizzyrea. | |
06:07 | Welcome to a timezone closer to the Philippines, wizzyrea. ;) | |
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06:13 | francharb | good morning #koha |
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06:45 | Oak | hello mtompset :) |
06:45 | morning francharb | |
06:45 | mtompset | Greetings, francharb. |
06:45 | francharb | hi Oak, mtompset |
06:45 | mtompset | cait must be commuting and/or having lousy connectivity today. |
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07:16 | * magnuse | waves |
07:26 | magnuse | slides? |
07:26 | wahanui | kf should be writing slides |
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07:37 | Oak | magnuse |
07:37 | magnuse | Oak |
07:37 | yay! | |
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07:42 | reiveune | hello |
07:42 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
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07:49 | mtompset | Oops... greetings, magnuse. bonjour, reiveune. :) |
07:49 | reiveune | hi :) |
07:50 | magnuse | kia ora! |
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08:01 | * magnuse | waves to wizzyrea |
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08:12 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:25 | mtompset | Ooo... mode +o, she has the power. Does that make wizzyrea She-ra? ;) |
08:26 | A little late for a halloween related joke, oh well. :) | |
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08:47 | * cait-m | waves |
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08:50 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
08:50 | cait-m | hi mveron |
08:51 | mveron | Hi cait-m :-) |
08:52 | I see that de-DE is completely translated, will there be any changes? Otherwise I teake it now for de-CH... | |
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08:56 | cait | mveron: don't know about changes, I think we might find some things to correct while testing |
08:56 | but you might wan to test de-ch too... so maybe good to start that | |
08:57 | Oak | so how is marcus? |
08:57 | mveron | cait: OK, I will do. When ist deadline for translations? |
08:58 | * magnuse | waves to cait |
08:58 | cait | I am not sure |
08:58 | Oak | hmm |
08:58 | cait | shortly before release I would guess |
08:58 | hi magnuse :) | |
08:58 | magnuse | should be shortly before the release, i think? |
08:58 | a day or two | |
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09:20 | Maxie2012 | Hello! |
09:23 | I have just managed to install the Koha 3.8 package on Debian Squeeze following the instructions from a link that was recommended i.e. http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze | |
09:24 | I used the koha-common package | |
09:25 | magnuse | well done Maxie2012! |
09:26 | Maxie2012 | I entered the command to create the Koha instance and reached the part that says "Once done you should be able to see something at http://kohaadmin/ and http://koha/ from your desktop machine." |
09:27 | I'm STUCK!! I don't know how to get in! | |
09:27 | help....! | |
09:27 | wahanui | help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. |
09:29 | Maxie2012 | well...I was hoping someone here could give me some clue as to what I should be looking for and where....unfortunately, I'm also not familiar with Linux |
09:30 | As such, I don't even know if the installation was successful... | |
09:40 | can anyone help explain what it means when it says you should be able to see something... | |
09:41 | Oak | Maxie2012, where does it say that? |
09:42 | what does http://localhost in your browser say? | |
09:42 | and http://localhost:8080 | |
09:43 | Maxie2012 | in the documentation.....Koha 3.8 on Debian Squeeze |
09:47 | went to http://localhost and it says SYSTEM MAINENANCE The Koha online catalogue is offline for system maintenance | |
09:50 | magnuse | woohoo, that means it's mostly working! |
09:50 | how about http://localhost:8080/ | |
09:52 | Maxie2012: what you see on http://localhost is the opac, but you need to visit the intranet and run through the webinstaller before you can actually see the opac | |
09:53 | Maxie2012 | when I go to http://localhost:8080/ it says unable to load page |
09:54 | okay...I know this is really a dumb question, but how do I visit the intranet? | |
09:55 | I've been trying for about an hour....is there a command I can key in from the command line? | |
09:55 | that's what I meant by I can't get in... | |
10:15 | seriously....can anyone out there help? | |
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10:15 | Maxie2012 | I just can't get to my intranet site to access the Web Installer |
10:25 | magnuse | oops, sorry about that Maxie... |
10:45 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
10:45 | magnuse | kia ora jcamins |
10:45 | have you ventured outside yet? | |
10:47 | jcamins | Oh, yeah. We went for a walk a few days ago. |
10:47 | magnuse | yay |
10:55 | * magnuse | wonders what an "Immediate parent body" is... |
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10:57 | * magnuse | waves to cait |
10:57 | * cait | waves back |
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11:01 | jcamins | magnuse: American Numismatic Society. Library -> American Numismatic Society |
11:03 | magnuse | ah hah |
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11:34 | paul_p | good morning jcamins & magnuse & others (well, for magnus & me it's no more the morning ;-) ) |
11:35 | magnuse | good middle-of-the-day to you too paul_p :-) |
11:35 | paul_p | magnuse = for you is it middle of the day or middle of the night ? :D :D |
11:36 | magnuse | ? definitely middle of the day :-) |
11:44 | * jcamins | adds an auto-signoff switch to git-bz for the release process. |
11:53 | jcamins | @later tell chris_n Could you please take a look at bug 8490? I can test and sign off, if you can confirm that the change is reasonable. |
11:53 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
11:53 | jcamins | paul_p: there's actually another workaround, I think. |
11:53 | Erase $ARGV in your psgi. | |
11:54 | paul_p | jcamins = yep, but OTOH, I don't see why we should keep $ARGV, so, it's a better fix |
11:54 | jcamins = about the auto-signoff to git-bz, please share this with us !!! | |
11:55 | jcamins | paul_p: I'm inclined to agree with you, but if that's actually used from the command line, we can suggest erasing ARGV. |
11:55 | * paul_p | just finished the tour of all bugs that have 'Plack' somewhere ! |
11:56 | paul_p | bug 8892, bug 8997, bug 8949, need signoff ! |
11:56 | jcamins | paul_p: would you object if I corrected the grammar of your warning? |
11:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8892 major, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Plack variable scoping in basket.pl |
11:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8997 major, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Dead code in C4/Language causing useless SQL queries | |
11:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8949 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a Perl error | |
11:56 | paul_p | jcamins = of course no !!! |
11:59 | jcamins | I can't test bug 8892, since no matter what I do I can't get the acquisitions module to stop telling me to create a budget, but I can test the other two. |
12:03 | paul_p: https://github.com/jcamins/git-bz | |
12:07 | paul_p | jcamins = about the acquisition, do you have a budget that is ACTIVE ? |
12:07 | jcamins | I did. I deleted it with the plan to go back and create a new active budget, in the hopes that maybe it would help. |
12:08 | paul_p: a signoff on bug 9005 would be much appreciated. The way I can't just activate a language drives me nuts. | |
12:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9005 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Changing sysprefs requires restart under Plack |
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12:13 | jcamins | Okay, chris_n confirms your fix on bug 8490 is safe. |
12:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8490 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Error when adding label layout under plack |
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12:18 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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12:20 | jcamins | Is there a reason that the headings on the facets aren't translated? |
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12:24 | oleonard | jcamins: The headings don't come from the template, they come from the script: [% facets_loo.type_label %] |
12:24 | jcamins | oleonard: ah. |
12:24 | Yuck. | |
12:25 | oleonard | Wait, that's not entirely true |
12:25 | Actually now I'm confused about it | |
12:26 | This line: [% facets_loo.type_label %] | |
12:26 | ...is followed by [% IF ( facets_loo.type_label_Authors ) %]Authors[% END %] etc. | |
12:26 | libsysguy | sounds like a bandaid gone bad |
12:27 | oleonard | And in the OPAC the template lacks the [% facets_loo.type_label %] line |
12:27 | So where are you seeing untranslated headings jcamins ? | |
12:28 | jcamins | http://screencast.com/t/DO5R6z2a5lai |
12:29 | oleonard | Incomplete translation? |
12:29 | jcamins | I guess that could be. |
12:29 | Same issue in Bokmal. | |
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12:30 | oleonard | I don't know how one checks to see if a translation is incomplete or whether you're seeing something which cannot be translated |
12:31 | * jcamins | does. |
12:31 | delegates this question to cait, for when she gets home from her vacation. | |
12:32 | chris_n | jcamins paul_p: ARGV was a quick and dirty debug tool I used early in dev of the label stuff |
12:32 | paul_p | chris_n yep, seen your comment. And jcamins has signed off -;) |
12:32 | chris_n | its safe to remove it and/or replace it where necessary |
12:33 | getopts would be better for the scripts that are cli useful | |
12:33 | * chris_n | hopes to get back to Koha in Jan 2013 |
12:33 | jcamins | chris_n: as a debug tool in the future, it is possible to pass HTTP arguments on the command line: ./script.pl arg=whatever |
12:33 | chris_n | right |
12:34 | there was a reason I did not do that, but I cannot recall atm :) | |
12:34 | probably frustration with very broken code or some such | |
12:34 | * chris_n | tends to grab the hammer too quickly sometimes |
12:34 | libsysguy | ^^ same |
12:35 | * chris_n | heads back to the world of elusive voip problems |
12:36 | libsysguy | poor chris_n, he was a good fellow |
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12:41 | jcamins | paul_p: if you revise that patch, you may want to use my changed text. |
12:42 | paul_p | jcamins ??? |
12:42 | wahanui | somebody said jcamins was too young to be the President of the United States. Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election. |
12:42 | jcamins | paul_p: bug 9008 |
12:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9008 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Failed QA , Warn if librarian logged-in with mysql/admin account |
12:42 | oleonard | paul_p: I noticed a typo |
12:42 | jcamins | oleonard found some problems with the markup. |
12:43 | * paul_p | confused... jcamins weren't you talking to oleonard in fact when you said " paul_p: if you revise that patch, you may want to use my changed text." |
12:44 | has a confirmation that he is invited for a conference in New Delhi in february, to talk about Koha. /me happy !!! | |
12:44 | jcamins | paul_p: not unless oleonard is revising the patch for bug 9008. |
12:44 | Yay! | |
12:44 | oleonard | congrats paul_p |
12:45 | I'd be happy to submit a revised patch for 9008 if that would help. jcamins, you suggest a text change? | |
12:45 | jcamins | oleonard: the text change is in the patch I signed off on. |
12:48 | oleonard | "admin login" seems ambiguous. I wonder if there's a better way of saying that. |
12:48 | jcamins | Possibly, but I'm not sure what it is. |
12:49 | oleonard | "MySQL user" more accurate but not less confusing? |
12:49 | "database administrator login?" | |
12:50 | jcamins | Hm. That makes sesne. |
12:50 | *sense | |
12:58 | * libsysguy | now remembers what he was going to ask chris_n |
13:05 | jcamins | I need some commit hooks. |
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13:17 | oleonard | khall around? |
13:24 | Neat, I didn't know you could pass an arbitrary set of bug numbers to Bugzilla and get a nice list | |
13:24 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]358&list_id=45371 | |
13:25 | These are the bugs from paul_p's list for 3.10 | |
13:32 | I forget... If I want to sign off on something and sneakily include a tiny typo fix how should I do it? | |
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13:33 | jcamins | oleonard: make the change, add the file, and then use git commit --amend -s |
13:33 | oleonard | Ah, I missed the add the file step |
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13:50 | oleonard | Custom Google search of the manual broken? I don't see the form on http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
13:52 | jcamins | oleonard: it shows up and works for me. |
13:53 | oleonard | Must be my don't-track-me-bro settings in my browser |
13:53 | jcamins | Probably. |
13:54 | oleonard | 3.6 was the first Template::Toolkit version wasn't it? |
13:55 | jcamins | 3.4. |
13:55 | oleonard | Oh, even further back. So these custom RSS feeds have been broken since 3.4 |
13:55 | I don't think we need to warn anyone about removing them since they can't have been working for that log | |
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13:56 | jcamins | Well, if people had their own templates they might not have been affected. |
13:57 | Maybe. | |
13:57 | mtompset | Greetings, jcamins and oleonard. |
13:59 | I have a coding question... I have a file with markers that map relatively easily to MARC fields and subfields... how do I actually build a MARC::Record in a disjointed manner? That is, one marker is 245$a, but the next line is 245$b. How do I get them on the same 245 field? | |
14:00 | jcamins | Check if a 245 exists before creating a new one? |
14:00 | mtompset | Okay... I've done that... but how do I update the existing one? |
14:01 | I don't see a function which returns a MARC::Field object in MARC::Record. | |
14:01 | jcamins | mtompset: http://search.cpan.org/~gmchar[…]C/Record.pm#field(_tagspec(s)_) |
14:02 | mtompset | That doesn't return a MARC::Field. |
14:02 | I think fields() does, but then I have to find the right one. | |
14:02 | Is there a better way? | |
14:03 | gmcharlt | mtompset: it does in fact return a MARC::Field object (or list of them, in list context) |
14:03 | mtompset | fields() does, but field('245') doesn't. |
14:04 | jcamins | mtompset: yes it does. my $field = $record->field('245'). |
14:04 | mtompset | Oh shoot... typo on my part... that explains it. |
14:04 | s vs. no s. | |
14:06 | Finally... I knew asking would help me debug. :) | |
14:07 | gmcharlt | so *that's* what it feels like when gdb attches to one's brain ;) |
14:08 | mtompset | YES! |
14:08 | Now to run the MarcEdit validation... | |
14:09 | Oh shoot! That sucks... I thought 700$a was repeatable. | |
14:09 | jcamins | No, of course not. |
14:10 | 7xx fields are controlled. | |
14:10 | mtompset | Well, neither is 100$a. |
14:10 | jeff | 700 is repeatable, 700$a is not. |
14:10 | jcamins | In MARC, 1xx, 6xx, 7xx, and some 8xx fields are controlled. |
14:10 | That means no repeating $a. You have to repeat the entire field. | |
14:13 | mtompset: I guess you found another library-related posting? | |
14:13 | mtompset | No, this is the same project... It just keeps growing. |
14:13 | We're working in Asia, so we are now adding branches in another country now. | |
14:14 | And they have their library files in yet another bizarre format. | |
14:14 | jcamins | Ah. |
14:14 | mtompset | Well, not really bizzare, just I would not have expected SFM files. |
14:15 | jcamins | Never heard of them. |
14:16 | mtompset | paste? |
14:16 | wahanui | i heard paste was found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
14:16 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Sample dummy record of SFM file" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/259 |
14:17 | mtompset | Each MARC record is delimited like a MRK file, a blank line. |
14:17 | jcamins | Oh, yeah, I've seen those. |
14:17 | mtompset | The tags at the front of the line map to various fields/subfields. |
14:17 | It's used in an application called toolbox. | |
14:18 | or is it shoebox now... | |
14:18 | I can't remember which is newer. | |
14:18 | But it is available for download for free. | |
14:18 | And was more intended for dictionary development. | |
14:19 | But it can be used for a very elementary library catalogue. | |
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14:27 | mtompset | Okay... next question... I put some don't generate blank field logic in my code, and now there are only "three" problem records. |
14:28 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "How would you resolve these kinds of problems?" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/260 |
14:29 | jcamins | I'd get them to recatalog that record, since it's clearly wrong but what they meant is unclear. |
14:29 | mtompset | Okay... so pass them the MRK file to clean up. |
14:30 | jcamins | Yes. They have to figure out who wrote the book. |
14:30 | mtompset | What if it was co-authored? |
14:30 | jcamins | Then they have to decide that. |
14:31 | First author goes in 100, second author goes in 700. | |
14:31 | However, based on that information, you have no way of knowing whether that's one person or two. | |
14:31 | Especially not programmatically. | |
14:36 | mtompset | My guess is two... look at the second $a on the 700 and the 100$a... two individual names, and the first one merges them. |
14:36 | The problem is there's no nice way to clean that programmatically. | |
14:36 | jcamins | Yeah, that'd be my guess as well. |
14:37 | But the only way to be sure is to have them correct it. | |
14:37 | mtompset | It's gets uglier on the other example, they change the order of first name and last name. |
14:38 | jcamins | You mean the put the names in the correct order? |
14:52 | oleonard | Ugh, I'm in Search.pm and my brain hurts now! |
14:52 | jcamins | oleonard: I could've told you that was a bad idea. |
14:53 | oleonard | *Sigh* It's for the good of the cause. |
14:53 | jcamins | What are you working on? |
14:55 | oleonard | Bug 8975 requires that something with notforloan < 0 be both categorized as unavailable *and* set the $can_place_holds variable to 1 |
14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8975 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , search results should say on order in staff client |
14:56 | oleonard | I'm just working through the logic of if not lost, not withdrawn, not damaged, etc. |
14:57 | paul_p | jcamins about ? |
14:57 | jcamins | paul_p: I am. |
14:58 | paul_p | jcamins I agreed with nicole that I could push for 3.10 patches related to online documentation, despite String Freeze. So, could you push patches she submitted on bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8945 ? |
14:58 | huginn | 04Bug 8945: major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Signed Off , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update |
14:58 | jcamins | paul_p: they need to be QAed. |
14:58 | paul_p | jcamins (they're all html only, online help only, so don't wait for "passed QA" |
14:59 | jcamins | Okay, I will review them in a bit. |
14:59 | paul_p | jcamins but if you want my "passed QA" official statement, I can add it on the bug ;-) |
14:59 | jcamins | That would be appreciated. |
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15:02 | paul_p | jcamins done |
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15:19 | mveron | It seems that parts of 'Edit quotes for QOTD feature' is not translatable. In German I get things like "Showing 1 to 4 of 4 entries". Seems to be related to koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/js/datatables.js |
15:19 | Can anybody confirm for other languages? | |
15:25 | oleonard | The include datatables-strings.inc should pass the translatable strings to the script. I wonder if the problem is that stray </script> at line 9 of quotes.tt? |
15:28 | mveron | oleonard: I will test it. |
15:29 | nengard | oleonard, manual updated regarding clicking tags: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ml#tagsmoderation |
15:29 | oleonard | Thanks nengard |
15:43 | mtompset | Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. Bye. |
15:56 | * oleonard | emerges safely from Search.pm with what he hopes is a working patch |
15:58 | oleonard | Here's me inside Search.pm trying to get a working patch: http://no-way-out.tumblr.com/p[…]cisions-decisions |
16:00 | reiveune | bye |
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16:02 | mtj | jcamins, i spotted yr acq/budgets problems before… |
16:02 | jcamins | mtj: do you have a solution? :) |
16:02 | mtj | are you testing using the kohaadmin/db user? |
16:02 | jcamins | No, should I be? |
16:02 | mtj | no |
16:03 | i was doing some acq testing as kohaadmin, and got that similar error… :/ | |
16:03 | jcamins | But when you logged in as a regular user it worked? |
16:03 | mtj | switching to a proper user, fixed that problem, for me |
16:03 | yep | |
16:03 | jcamins | Humbug. |
16:03 | Maybe the problem is that the budget was created by the database user. | |
16:03 | mtj | i googled, and spotted khall had the same problem as me... |
16:07 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8945' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]710681681e718ab40> / Bug 8945: Update Tags help files for 3.10 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]18d388de67fe1c467> / Bug 8945: Tools Help Files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c807bad1467d25761 |
16:07 | jcamins | Oh, there's another bug that passed QA. |
16:08 | mtj | hmm not sure, i qa-ed some acq bugs 2 days ago on master, and the budgets/funds setup worked ok for me, on a fresh db |
16:12 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #927 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
16:17 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries - Followup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]60befe4e4963ce013> / Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a6d7111bef634cc22> |
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16:27 | jcamins | HTML isn't printer-friendly no matter what, is it? |
16:30 | And when I say "printer-friendly" what I really mean is "I can't use HTML instead of LaTeX, no matter how much I want to be lazy, can I?" | |
16:30 | oleonard | It is if you're willing to relinquish control over how it looks |
16:30 | jcamins | oleonard: we're talking about _me_. |
16:31 | oleonard | :) |
16:32 | * jcamins | revisits XSL-FO. |
16:36 | jcamins | Oh, XSL-FO. Are you a standard still trying to find your place, or are you just DOA? |
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16:45 | gaetan_B | bye |
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16:54 | jeff | jcamins: the wikipedia Talk page for XSL Formatting Objects has two requests for information on the standard's future dating back to 2008, but the Apache FOP project did have a 1.1 release within the last two weeks. |
16:54 | jcamins: Now it is time to play a game I like to call "STABLE? OR DEAD?" | |
16:55 | jcamins | jeff: hehe. Yup. That's exactly where I am. |
16:56 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #6 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
16:58 | jcamins | I am trying to decide, which of these is more evil: images and UTF-8 in LaTeX, indexes in XSL-FO, or documentation in InDesign. |
16:58 | They're all more evil. I meant I'm trying to figure out which is _least_ evil. | |
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17:13 | tcohen | what's the problem with LaTeX? |
17:14 | r u using texlive 2012? | |
17:15 | jcamins | tcohen: lambda kills kittens, and pdflatex isn't fond of unicode either. |
17:15 | There's a new version? | |
17:15 | Ooh! | |
17:15 | New version of LaTeX | |
17:16 | tcohen | debian has had problems packaging texlive (and hence ubuntu) |
17:16 | (precise comes with 2009 version) | |
17:16 | jcamins | Yeah, 2009 is what I have. |
17:16 | tcohen | but quantal has 2012 already so... |
17:17 | jcamins | I figured it was so stable that they'd just stopped working on it. :P |
17:17 | tcohen | for my thesis i had to (conveniently) install by hand the 2012 version |
17:17 | which is just straightforwrd | |
17:18 | with a script that is provided in the texlive site (texlive > the new latex distribution, superseding tetex) | |
17:18 | jcamins | Hm. I shall experiment. |
17:19 | tcohen | http://tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html |
17:21 | libsysguy1 | qa tools? |
17:21 | poo wahanui | |
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17:26 | libraryman | hi |
17:26 | wahanui | hey, libraryman |
17:26 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #222 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
17:27 | libraryman | need help want to upload my data(books)to koha |
17:27 | jcamins | libraryman: what format are the books in? |
17:28 | *records | |
17:28 | libraryman | excel |
17:29 | jcamins | You will need to convert them into MARC. |
17:29 | A lot of people use Marcedit for that. | |
17:29 | marcedit? | |
17:29 | wahanui | marcedit is a great tool to help you with that. Or there are other Marc Editing tools you can use as well. well there ya have it from kf_a! |
17:29 | * Oak | waves goodbye |
17:29 | libraryman | can i upload them all at once? |
17:29 | jcamins | wahanui: forget marcedit |
17:29 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot marcedit |
17:30 | jcamins | libraryman: yes, if you convert them to MARC. |
17:30 | libraryman | how |
17:30 | will csv help | |
17:30 | jcamins | marcedit is a tool for editing MARC records. It can also convert spreadsheets to MARC. See http://people.oregonstate.edu/[…]it/html/index.php |
17:30 | Yes, CSV is generally better to start with than Excel. | |
17:31 | libraryman | k |
17:31 | so all i need is the conversion | |
17:31 | tnx pals | |
17:31 | jcamins | Assuming you have Koha installed and set up, yes. |
17:31 | libraryman | k |
17:32 | it is installd | |
17:33 | jcamins | So, yes, if you convert the records to MARC you can just upload the records using the "Stage MARC Records" tool. |
17:33 | libraryman | tnx man!tis realy insightful |
17:59 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #927: SUCCESS in 1 hr 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/927/ |
17:59 | * nengard: Bug 8945: Serials Help Files for 3.10 | |
17:59 | * nengard: Bug 8945: Update suggestion help file for 3.10 | |
17:59 | * nengard: Bug 8945: Update lists help for 3.10 | |
17:59 | * nengard: Bug 8945: Tools Help Files | |
17:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8945 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update |
17:59 | jenkins_koha | * nengard: Bug 8945: Update Tags help files for 3.10 |
18:00 | libraryman | having issue convert my records in execl into marc |
18:00 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #928 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
18:01 | libraryman | the stuff is trowin error |
18:01 | libsysguy | tcohen you around? |
18:01 | tcohen | yup |
18:01 | jcamins | libraryman: I don't know how to use marcedit, sorry. |
18:01 | libraryman | tnx man |
18:01 | libsysguy | do I need all 3 patches to on bug 8800 |
18:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8800 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , SpecifyDueDate && useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour |
18:02 | tcohen | no |
18:02 | libsysguy | just the last one? |
18:02 | tcohen | the last one is a rewrite, as the first failed qa |
18:02 | yes, the last one | |
18:02 | wahanui | i guess the last one is the first one if you look backwards. |
18:02 | libsysguy | oh okay, what is the middle one? |
18:02 | tcohen | a patch that applies to 3.8 |
18:03 | obsolete it too | |
18:03 | libsysguy | okay |
18:03 | I just didn't want to clutter up my nice clean qa space | |
18:03 | :p | |
18:04 | tcohen | look elliot, i really tried to fix this the way paul said |
18:04 | i just didn't understand the code, that was too complex | |
18:04 | (unnecesarilly) | |
18:04 | libsysguy | uh oh lol |
18:04 | tcohen | is it ok if you write another patch for this |
18:05 | libsysguy | heh I am having to refactor my code. If yours doesn't work I'll take a poke at fixing the current code before I delete it :p |
18:06 | tcohen | as i see it if the code has big branches inside, it is better to call a specific function for that |
18:06 | (days vs. hours) | |
18:06 | and mixing branches is much worse | |
18:06 | (that's what the code does | |
18:07 | having multiple if hours... inside every branch) | |
18:07 | libsysguy | okay, well I'll give it a shot |
18:08 | tcohen | at least we can now read which syspref case is handled by which branch |
18:10 | oleonard | *Sigh,* that was fast. Bug 8975. |
18:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8975 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , search results should say on order in staff client |
18:10 | nengard | sorry oleonard |
18:10 | i was pretty excited about it | |
18:10 | it did what i wanted, but didn't pass the tests you laid out | |
18:11 | oleonard | Heh, I guess I shouldn't be so thorough in my test plans ;) |
18:12 | nengard | hehe |
18:13 | oleonard | nengard: AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems is turned off and you still see the holds link on the search results page? |
18:14 | nengard | yes |
18:15 | mind you that's the case in master too | |
18:15 | it's a bug that's not related to the thing you fixed | |
18:15 | but it's in your test plan | |
18:15 | and i don't know if it's a reported bug | |
18:15 | or one we just now found | |
18:16 | oleonard | I don't find it to be the case. I'm looking at a record with one item, that item is damaged, AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems is off... I see "No holds allowed" instead of the holds link |
18:17 | ...and the same in master | |
18:21 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
18:21 | jcamins | gmcharlt: just a moment too late! |
18:21 | * gmcharlt | kicks huggin |
18:22 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
18:22 | heh | |
18:22 | need more coffee obviously | |
18:25 | weather has returned to normal rainy and windy here | |
18:26 | sposta be meeting wizzyrea, trea and spud at the railway station to go to the pet expo today | |
18:26 | nengard | oleonard are you a superlibrarian ? maybe it's cause i'm a superlibrarian |
18:27 | or maybe it's cause i'm just too tired to see straight | |
18:27 | oleonard | I am |
18:28 | rangi | http://freerangelibrarian.com/[…]ll-funnel-of-fun/ |
18:28 | nengard | oleonard it's the latter |
18:28 | I see it right now on master | |
18:28 | will try patch again | |
18:28 | jcamins | nengard: it could also have been indexing delay. |
18:28 | rangi | you can see the new te takere library :) |
18:28 | nengard | oh! jcamins i like your explanation better |
18:28 | i did just reindex | |
18:30 | oleonard, one problem | |
18:30 | rangi | awww |
18:31 | "The last meal I had with colleagues was with developers. I had forgotten how endearing they can be." | |
18:31 | nengard | a damaged item can't be put on hold - but it can be checked out - at least there is no rule against it - but because of the preference to not allow holds it says that damaged items are unavailable |
18:31 | rangi | (that was with eythian, mtj, and me) |
18:31 | (dont mind me im just talking to myself hehe) | |
18:32 | oleonard | ...and it's very endearing rangi. |
18:32 | nengard: That makes sense, but it's outside the scope of the bug I think | |
18:32 | rangi | heh |
18:32 | nengard | okey dokey |
18:32 | signing off | |
18:32 | wahanui | it has been said that signing off is a great idea! or at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
18:32 | chris_n | lol |
18:34 | tcohen | hmm, our redmine setup thinks koha has too much commits :-D |
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18:35 | rangi | heh |
18:36 | gmcharlt_ joined #koha | |
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18:37 | rangi | im quite a fan of redmine |
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18:38 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
18:38 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
18:40 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
18:40 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 08:17 PM, March 10, 2010) |
18:40 | rangi | heh |
18:40 | thats still a good one | |
18:40 | @wunder nzwn | |
18:40 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
18:41 | rangi | hmm |
18:41 | i wish it had wind direction/speed | |
18:41 | ah ha | |
18:42 | northerly 35kmph gusting to 50kmph .. just the usual then | |
18:43 | oh man, now he's trolling prospective support suppliers too | |
18:44 | jcamins | rangi: why draw the line at "limited trolling"? |
18:44 | rangi | heh |
18:47 | tcohen | libsysguy, what do u think of a new bug for revisiting Calendar.t? |
18:47 | oleonard | I wonder why the OPAC has a publication date range search and the staff client doesn't |
18:50 | rangi | hmm thats a bit odd |
18:52 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #6: SUCCESS in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.10.x/6/ |
18:52 | * nengard: Bug 8945: Serials Help Files for 3.10 | |
18:52 | * nengard: Bug 8945: Update suggestion help file for 3.10 | |
18:52 | * nengard: Bug 8945: Update lists help for 3.10 | |
18:52 | * nengard: Bug 8945: Tools Help Files | |
18:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8945 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update |
18:52 | jenkins_koha | * nengard: Bug 8945: Update Tags help files for 3.10 |
18:52 | * mtompset: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. | |
18:52 | * kyle: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries - Followup | |
18:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8826 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. |
18:52 | rangi | jcamins: got a sec? |
18:53 | libsysguy | tcohen probably should, when I applied I got an error |
18:54 | jcamins | rangi: sure. |
18:54 | tcohen | error aplying? |
18:54 | rangi | bug 8981 |
18:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8981 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Remove Nonpublic General Note from OPAC authorities display |
18:54 | libsysguy | yeah it didn't apply due to merge conflicts |
18:54 | rangi | the patch does what it says, just checking its not a bad idea |
18:55 | tcohen | maybe because of recent bug that was pushed that touches is_holiday? |
18:55 | jcamins | Yeah, it makes sense. |
18:55 | rangi | cool |
18:55 | libsysguy | umm the conflict was the number of tests to perform |
18:56 | tcohen | oh my |
18:56 | libsysguy | but it was no big deal |
18:56 | I already resolved it | |
18:56 | tcohen | wtf did i attach? |
18:56 | * libsysguy | shrugs |
18:56 | libsysguy | lol |
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18:58 | rangi | yay bug 9001 |
18:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9001 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , zebraqueue_daemon is deprecated and must go |
19:00 | * rangi | tries an install |
19:05 | rangi | that worked |
19:12 | But in addition, the government's approach should terrify any user of cloud computer services—not to mention the providers. The government maintains that Mr. Goodwin lost his property rights in his data by storing it on a cloud computing service. | |
19:12 | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/[…]k-cloud-computing | |
19:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #222: SUCCESS in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/222/ |
19:14 | * oleonard: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm | |
19:14 | * mtompset: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. | |
19:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm |
19:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8826 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. | |
19:15 | oleonard | Have a good weekend #koha |
19:15 | jcamins | Heh. I hadn't noticed that there was no mention of postgres and solr. |
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19:18 | rangi | !jenkins status |
19:18 | jenkins_koha | status of all projects: |
19:18 | 3_6_Packages: last build: 21 (1 mo 19 days ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/3_6_Packages/21/ | |
19:18 | 3_8_packages(BUILDING: 3 min 35 sec and counting): last build: 151 (1 day 8 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]3_8_packages/151/ | |
19:18 | Koha_3.10.x: last build: 6 (2 hr 21 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.10.x/6/ | |
19:18 | Koha_3.2.x(disabled) : last build: 36 (11 mo ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/36/ | |
19:18 | Koha_3.4.x(disabled) : last build: 80 (8 mo 15 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/80/ | |
19:18 | Koha_3.6.x: last build: 63 (10 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/63/ | |
19:18 | Koha_3.8.x: last build: 222 (1 hr 51 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/222/ | |
19:18 | Koha_Docs: last build: 223 (1 hr 6 min ago): FAILURE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/223/ | |
19:18 | Koha_master(BUILDING: 1 hr 18 min and counting): last build: 927 (3 hr 5 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/927/ | |
19:18 | Master_Packages: last build: 115 (1 hr 18 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ter_Packages/115/ | |
19:18 | rangi | we really should fix the xml in the french manual so that stops failing |
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19:56 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #928: SUCCESS in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/928/ |
19:56 | * mtompset: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. | |
19:56 | * kyle: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries - Followup | |
19:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8826 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. |
19:57 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #929 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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20:27 | Brooke | o/ |
20:28 | JesseM | \o |
20:28 | jcamins | o/ |
20:28 | Brooke | :) |
20:36 | rangi | Dang broke my own rule |
20:36 | Brooke | which one? |
20:36 | wahanui | which one is 3.6.x? |
20:36 | * Brooke | gives waha a smeck |
20:36 | rangi | Answered the archives paul |
20:37 | Brooke | tsc, that's a good thing :) |
20:38 | I'm just happy to see Turkish folks taking an interest :) | |
20:38 | rangi | Well they won't if trolly troll trolls keep hassling them |
20:39 | If that was my first reply and I was them I'd go look at evergreen instead | |
20:39 | Brooke | we shall use the awesome power of manaakitanga to out signal their noise, sir. |
20:40 | rangi | Yep only reason I broke my rule |
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20:41 | Brooke | @later tell nengard good I'm glad. I was worried. |
20:41 | huginn | Brooke: The operation succeeded. |
20:42 | rangi | Brooke++ |
20:43 | And now I'm off with the kids | |
20:43 | Brooke | cheers mate. Have a good saturday |
21:06 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #929: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/929/ |
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